Brotha Lynch Hung: Alcohol had me where I couldn't remember my kids name

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, come, why are you saying my name?

Speaker 2 (00:02):
MC eight?

Speaker 1 (00:03):
Why are you doing I'm trying. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 3 (00:05):
Let's go, nigga jill.

Speaker 4 (00:15):
This nigga that said MC eight like I would guess,
Oh no, yeah, I'm sucking up.

Speaker 3 (00:21):
Come lead the lord. I got you, dog, I got you.
We like to welcome every one to another episode against
the Chronicles podcast is your boy Big Steel along with
Jim you know eight. We get those guests every once

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in a while.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Man, that.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
They got a lot of special ship going on.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
You feel what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I remember us doing the top gangster rap albums of
all time with the Homey Sewer and Baker Man, and
his name just kept popping up and everything, you know,
among some pretty respectable people.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
You know, we got brother Linx hung in the building
today with that. With that, man, we appreciate you coming on.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
Appreciate y'all having me. Man, what's up?

Speaker 1 (01:10):
Hey, what's cracking?

Speaker 4 (01:11):
My nigga would have doodeling?

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Man, you already don't Dad.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
I can't wait to get back down there. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
I had to come down here to handle some business
and work on the album.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
So I've been out here for a year, but I
was out there for I was living out there.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
For five years. I've seen some shit. You just posted
the other day said you was headed back to southern Cali.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Yes, sir, yeah, man, after tying up a couple of loosening.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh yeah, you gotta do it for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
We year.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
Did you come down to La lunch?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
It was two thousand and seventeen.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Twenty seventeen. You was down there for a while.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I was standing up in the valley.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
I was working on the I think I was working
on a little project and ship when they told me
you were staying down here. I was up at Frank
Nitty's little spot and they told me you had moved
down here. So I was like, oh, that's official.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I'll be back, man. You gotta get away from
the ship sometime, man. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Give your mind a rest, you feel me?

Speaker 5 (02:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, yeah, going through some little things of course, exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yeah, that's you know what, man, that's.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
I'll be back. Man. I lived in this mootherfucking my
whole life.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Man. I got it, I got it. I loved the
change when I moved out there.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Man. So yeah, and you was in the Familey you
know Lynch. Early on, you had a lot going on
on your records. Man, you had a whole lot going on.
Do you ever look back on some of the stuff
that you wrote back then and trip out on it?

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Man, I used to trip off how active I was,
you know what I mean? And and and.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
People coming in my life telling me to slow down
all that shit. I think about that a lot, you
know what I mean. Recently talked to the homie that
first told me in l a nigga you you could
be a rap star. You need to take that more
serious and let us do all the other ship, you

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know what I mean? And ship just recently he been gone.
He's been gone for like thirty years. But uh recently
he had talked to my baby mama and got the number,
talked to him. I had to show you love. I
would love because he gave me the advice that changed
my life.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Oh so you took heat to his advice?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Then?

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah? Where isn't that Roosevelt Hotel.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
In Hollywood? And he told me that ship.

Speaker 5 (03:57):
Ever since then, BROH slowed down start taking my music serious,
you know, line, I was on the fence, like where
I wanted to go.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
You know what, Man, I noticed that. I talked to
eight about that all the time. Man, it seemed like
when you were in that life man and that banging
that it's like it almost can consume you if you're
not careful. I don't seen a whole bunch of real
talent and brothers, not just in rap. I'm talking about
cats that could have played in the NFL, Cats that
could have played in the NBA. They could have did
a number of different things. They just couldn't leave the

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neighborhood alone.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Real talk. Man.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
Shit, I'm an only child too, so I was gravitating
toward the homies, you know what I mean. So the
Homies had me before my mom even knew it, you
know what I mean. So I was on that. I
was on that gate, like I fell off on the
right side.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
M And let me ask you this, Lynch. You came
out when you came out with twenty four Deep, that
was your first album, right, yeah, it was a lot.
It was. It wasn't as much of the good stuff
on there, but it was real active. But you had
some you know, you had some commercial stuff on there,
just some good old fashioned gangs to music.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Right Yeah, I used to do a whole bunch of man.
I used to be a hip hop artist in the eighties.
Bro My name used to be Ice Cold, so you know,
a little bit of that was mixed into the twenty
four D far as, like the faster groovyer songs and shit.
So I was getting out of that eighties hip hop

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type rap style and getting more into my banging shit
because I was so active, you know what I mean.
But shit, if you heard Ice Cold, it's a whole
different rapper. That rapper was run dum sish or ll poojas,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
And not too many people heard that.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
I had a song that I'm remade called Outstanding from
the Gap band, you know what I mean. So it
was about that stuff and that stuff I used to
put out on consignment, and that's how it became like
a local you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
I guess you can call celebrity.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
He became. How did you hook up with Cedric Singleton
and all those guys?

Speaker 5 (06:14):
Uh, this dude, Miko, he started paying for my studio
time and Miko, I ran into Cedric Singleton and uh
and at the time me and X was was good
and uh exat sounding It took me over to his
house and dude said, I can get you a record

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in the stores, and I was amped up.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I was like, let's go.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
So it was just that simple back then. Wow, that's crazy.
It sounded like your situation.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
Well, you know, when you're young and when you're in
the neighborhood and shit, and you know, you get that
freak chance to I guess, you know, get to the studio.
You meet that one person that say they could put
you on a lot of us was naive to you know,
contracts and all that other shit, you know, which is

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the important shit Today you get me your publisher, your
royalties and writing nigga. We was just you know, especially
being an active hood nigga. You you basically just like,
oh you could put a record in the store, like shit,
let's go. You not really and a nigga could get
you to sign on the dotted line and you not

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really questioning the antics, because first of all, when the
homies bring you to a nigga, you already thinking, you know,
shit gonna be on the fair and up and up.
And that was something like the stand some of the
same shit with us. You know, the homies brought us
to Limzo and unknown. You know, we to some young,
naive niggas from the block. Them niggas knew, they knew

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though about you know, producers and writers and puggys and
and all that shit. We was the type of nigga like, nigga,
let me see my face on the album cover and
it's in the swap meet or some shit.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
You thought you was a surres. You're not asking.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
Nigga about Okay, well, how many points am I getting in?

Speaker 1 (08:11):
What's the royal ty rateing?

Speaker 4 (08:13):
You know, I'm writing on my own shit, so that
means I get fifty percent of the publish And automatically,
you wasn't asking them fucking questions. You was like, nigga, ma,
you're gonna put my record in the store, or nigga,
you a one hundred with me?

Speaker 5 (08:30):
That's real talk. That's exactly how my shit went to
you known.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
I mean shit, we young, We was niggas.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
We was niggas trying to learn how to serve dope
and bag for the hood and catch it. It'll be
slipped on a shit like that. We wasn't no and
I'm not to say we wasn't educated, because niggas knew shit.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
We went to.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
School and learned the ABC's in one, two threes, now
further in that because we felt, uh, what the fuck
is George Washington and and and the slave ship gonna
do with my hustling on the block?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
You get me? Knew our math.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
I know how to take a fifty and double that
motherfuck up and go up to a quarter and a half.
I know what nine ounces costing, what I'm gonna get
back and all that ship.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
But exactly well, what the fuck we.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Need some motherfucking fucking calculus and some motherfucking shit for nigga.
I know how to count one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,
You get me. So we wasn't intrigued by the knowledge
of what a contract really you know, uh uh instilled
you give me. We didn't know that ship was taking

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the niggas publishing and shipping.

Speaker 1 (09:46):
We wasn't thinking.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
About, oh, damn, you know this song, that's your money
right there, nigga.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
This we ain't nigga. You couldn't asked me.

Speaker 4 (09:57):
Shit about no motherfucking publishing when I first started, Right,
what the fuck is nigga?

Speaker 3 (10:02):
What they published so much like like a book publisher,
what they put they putting it out. Nigga didn't even
have the motherfucking homie sense as far as.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
They were, because they were knowledgeable, right, they knew how
to get the records in the store, which means they
knew a whole fucking lot. They knew about a nigga's
publishing and all that they did not fail induced that
to us because they knew that one they could steal.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
And in this case, he had already put out a
rapper named Homicide from from out Here, so he knew,
you know.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
He knew how to get it, so he put let
me get this trait.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
He put out homicide. This Homicide was on priority as well.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Correct.

Speaker 5 (10:57):
Yeah for a minute, yeah I remember that.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Just like I said, I had a record store during
that time. So without going too much into that part, Lynch,
how did your deal look? Did you and him sign
a contract initially? Were you signed the black market records?
Or was it just like on a handshake?

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Bro It was a handshake, and then he put me
in right in the studio, you know what I mean.
We did the paperwork after about a year or so. Okay,
I sold the studio halfway done with twenty four deep
on off a handshake.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
Okay, So by the time you get to doing it
and twenty four deep was received well, and did you
see your life changing any.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Not by twenty four deep.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
There was after season, so it was after season sickness
I went when the priority paying attention.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
I never really paid attention to twenty four deep sales
or anything like that. All I knew was that I
had went to Seattle for my very first show and
it was hell of people there, so I knew twenty
four deep was doing cool.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
But then season.

Speaker 5 (12:01):
I came right back home after that show cause I
was so amped up, jumped right in the studio and
did season, you know what I mean, Cause like Seattle,
them crips over there just had me amped up. And
when I got home, I was thinking about what happened
at that show and just went in to start doing
season and changed my little shit up. Like I didn't

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have none of the happier songs like I did on
twenty four D for season cause because of the crips
in Seattle, had a nigga all amped up.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
I mean, so so you and got worse then.

Speaker 5 (12:36):
Yeah, when I put that record out, remember when Tower
Records was open, when that release day came, I passed
by Tower Records and there was a line like down
the street.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
So later that night, after the store.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Was about the clothes, I knew dude in there cause
I had put some tapes on consignment. So I went
up in there and he and I asked him.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
What was that line for it? And he was like, right,
you know, for your album.

Speaker 5 (13:02):
And then now you knew, you know, you weren't doing
stories or nothing like that.

Speaker 3 (13:08):
Huh, you weren't doing in stores or anything like that,
the stuff of that nature.

Speaker 5 (13:13):
That kind of promo not not for twenty four Deep,
not at all, but I started doing it for season
after that.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, because okay, so for go ahead.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Any I don't believe I did any promo for my
first record.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
It's a contant thing. Damn, I can't do it. Car.
I think I probably didn't start doing promo till.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Maybe, yeah, my second record, straight checking them because I
had Growing Up.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
In the Hood on there.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
So that's why we started promoing because of because we
had the number one rap single in the country. When
Growing Up in the Hood came out, it went to
number one on Billboard Rap.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
Charts, So that's why we started touring.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
I mean, promo tour.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
But my first.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Record by everybody was flapping that comptant thing out here though, brother, Yeah, but.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
We didn't, Yeah, we didn't.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Nigga I got one, We got one video with It's
a Comptant Thing. And then that was because remember I
said back sometime.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Orpheus was losing a deal with Capital.

Speaker 4 (14:31):
Capital had invested so much with Orpheus as far as
Rap was concerned, you know, because Capital, you know, they
had my Nigga King T and you know, the.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
King T record was was banging.

Speaker 4 (14:45):
So but everything that came through Orpheus was bullshit at
the time. So basically they were on their last legs
when we came through. It's probably why we didn't get
a promotional tour because.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Already was just one of the mother groups.

Speaker 4 (15:04):
Right because they they had never We were the first
West Coast group that they fucked with.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
You know.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Orpheus was based out of New York, so they had
a lot of New York artists, but there wasn't no
it wasn't no top tiers.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
You get me.

Speaker 4 (15:21):
Rat was fresh at that time, you give me around
eighty nine to ninety, so well fuck for our shit,
you know, So they didn't know what the fuck to
do with us when we came along. So we didn't
get on no promo tour, We didn't do none of
that shit. We put out a record and was at
the crier boring the hood.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
So yeah, that's the crazy part. So links because twenty
four Deep was a good album and I know Ida Will,
they got people familiar with you. But Season of the
Sickness was a whole nother level and just the stuff
that she was saying on there, just the commentary, and
then they had the thing that we're the boy in
Texas that did all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
To his chef.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
Yeah, yeah, man, my black market threw me under the
under the table with that ship though. That that who
got me on that show. Bro let and let oh
girl just go in on me. Didn't warn me about ship,
you know what I mean. He just said, man, just
go up on her and let him know. You know,

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it's your music and everything it was in the audience,
didn't even in my back.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Nigga threw me under the bus with that ship.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
You know what it was, man, him as an executive
could see me being part talent, part executive, a dude
to do a lot of executive stuff. What he was
looking at was like, man, this is good advertising. Somebody
gonna kill somebody and this this, you know, and they
saying that we had, you know, and it's because of
this and everything.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Because I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
When I first heard Season of the Sickness, first of all,
the one thing about it, this is what I want
to say, first and foremost, whether you're talking about eating
babies or doing whatever or getting high, you seeing that
shit in the level that is so creative dog to
where it's like he's seeing some manias shit. But that
motherfucker correct.

Speaker 5 (17:17):
Now, let me tell you where that baby shit came from.
Just to be clear, it's abortion, bron. I started, you know,
my first baby, mama, you know, I got an abortion
with it, started talking about you know, and I.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Just used it as a metaphor. You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (17:34):
It blew it blew up, bro unexpectedly, you know what
I mean to where a nigga just kept putting it
in this shit.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
But you know what's.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
From a simple abortion though, that's dope.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Because I'm a dude to studies lyrics, and I figured
that people take stuff so proverbial and so literal sometimes, right,
I said, man, I think the dude is talking about
abortion or something like that. That was my first thought.
I think he was really out there eating babies.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
You know, I ain't never said that before either.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
That's dope, don'g. So we got some here first, were
breaking news on here eight. That's what we do with
breaking news, real street shit. You know what I'm saying.
We're going here breaking news, man. And so you know,
you gotta tell me your life started changing something, at
least with the shows. I'm pretty sure you was getting
booked every weekend. When season came out.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
Oh yeah, season, I felt like I was in there,
you know what I mean. That was like the best
times of my life like that, from ninety two to
like ninety eight, from going to like Jack the Rapper,
the Batting Rappers, at Jack the Rapper. I remember this

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little let me. I don't know why, but a little
story real quick. It was about ninety three, went to
Jack the Rapper. That's when I saw a gang of people.
I'm at Paddle Labell.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
She was cool.

Speaker 5 (19:03):
I saw snooping them niggas death Row came deep. I
was hoping to see eight because he was my favorite
rapper at the time, you know, what I mean, so,
but I didn't see you, but we didn't.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Tell you was there though, Yeah, we I think I
went to maybe one or two Jack the Rappers, but
I was only there for like a day, and then
we would cut out because most of the time I
would come through because we would be on the road,
and so the record company would bring me through for
like a day or something doing an event, and then

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usually I was gone the next day. I didn't like
doing the conventions anyway, because I was anti social nigga.
I didn't like being around the king and motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
You are.

Speaker 4 (19:52):
I'm still you could tell, yeah, I don't like being arounders.
I get in and get out. That was my type
of ship. I still do that shit today, whether I
go on the road, shit, I be at work at
the podcast, motherfucker be as soon as the cameras cut off,
I'll be like, all right, later niggas be sitting around
chit chatting and smoking, shooting the breeze. Still no nigg

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I grabbed my bag and I'm out the door. I
take the one picture just why I'm laughing, and I
tell a nigga, I'm out. I see y'all later, and
it has nothing to do with you know, it has
nothing to do with people in general. But shit, I'm
more comfortable when I'm around my familiar shit. And a
lot of times that's just my damn self being at home.

(20:37):
You get me going out there being on the motherfucking road,
you know, especially when you come from the environments we
come from. I kind of like, you know, shelter myself
off and shit. And when we just went to this
big motherfucking podcast convention, everybody coming in and the first

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thing they saying, you doing typical West Coast nigga, shit,
nigga up in the corner against the wall, arms crossed,
looking at everybody.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
Saw.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
I mean, that's just the way I came up, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Shit, that's just what hey, bro, you can ask Frank,
I'm the same exact way and.

Speaker 3 (21:16):
Man, and that's what I figured, Lynch, And you know
that's why I was ever since I've been dealing with eight.
That's the one thing I tell people, I say, don't
take him being kind of an introvert as him being
like he don't mess with you with nothing like that.
He's just a very direct dude. He's not gonna do
a lot of conversation and deliberating. Once he gets to

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know you, I would say, now I talked to eight
a lot more conversations. They ain't twenty seconds, no more.
They probably two or three minutes. But he had talked
to me. Now because we have a relationship. Now we
know each other, you feel what I mean and be
honest with you. Eight is just a very well rounded dude.
And that leads me into my next question. When you

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was writing, you already said that the baby stuff was
a metaphor for abortion, right, Yeah, I hear a lot
of things that you did lyrically back then, Man, you
was getting a lot of stuff off your chest.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
Oh yeah, I mean it's I'm a recluse too, Like
you know, I'm a recluse. You know, I'm always by myself,
brou So it's like anything I put on my album,
I'm you know, whether it's about my mom being a
crackhead or whatever, it's just my therapy.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
So I don't really care what I say, you know.

Speaker 1 (22:32):
What I mean.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
I'm careful.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
I'm more careful these days because I guess that came
with the age. But back then, shit, as long as
I got to say it, and people were feeling me,
you know what I mean, I didn't really care.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Well what you really did with Season of the Sickness
for me really did was an exemplified hip hop and
the young angry angstu a black man in the urban
community going through ptas D and all that. It seemed
like it was just unloaded.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Ruh, Like who else was I gonna talk to? You
know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (23:11):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (23:12):
So Season is jumping off you on Priority records, who
at that time, Priority had probably one of the bombers
kings to rep rosss of all time.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
They too.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
Yeah, Priority was like our.

Speaker 4 (23:30):
I guess was like our rap a lot you feel
me not not discredit you know, death row or ruthless
or none of that. But outside of of that, I
guess that was like, you know, because Priority had all
the niggas ship, you know, they had the Cube, they
had y'all ship, they had motherfucking p ship, you know what,

(23:54):
I'm mac t and ran who banging through there?

Speaker 2 (23:59):
You know.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
So definitely was the home of let's say the black independence.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, yeah, yeah you did.

Speaker 4 (24:11):
You didn't see too many you give me, like like
the big labels and ship. But as far as Priority
was concerned. They roster as far was full of just
the homie ship you give me. And if you was
a black entrepreneur trying to get your label off you
got artists, they was probably a good place to go.

Speaker 5 (24:32):
Yeah to this damn fucking with Fred from Priority Records.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
Okay, he got his own, he got his RBC.

Speaker 5 (24:40):
That's who I dropped that season too. Oh wow, that Priority.
I've been in touch with Priority all the years. When Snoop,
you know, with little head of it for a minute,
you know what.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
You don't mentioned Snoop's names a couple of times. This
is something I'm gonna saying. I don't want internets. I'm
telling y'all now, don't come with the bs, because this
is not no knock. Then I heard Snoop prior to
when he got with dre Right. Snoop always had the
real laid back survey flow. But I think he got
him a dose to that lynch back then because he

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started getting more aggressive. The way you spit your bars,
you know, with the coming up. You know, you had
a certain swing to your stuff, and I noticed a
lot of people kind of took liberty with that back
in the day.

Speaker 5 (25:27):
Shit, I never heard about Snoop, but I heard about
a couple with some rappers that not even on that scale.

Speaker 1 (25:33):
Oh yeah, you know. You know you fail to get
hit up by thousand biggers steel.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
Oh you know.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
And it's not me saying because Snoop is one of
the greatest, you know what I mean, it's not me
saying nothing. But that doesn't mean you can't be influenced
by somebody.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
Yeah, true, I used to.

Speaker 5 (25:50):
I used to think Snoop stole my my little cat thing,
my little little cap thing I always wanted.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
I knew, yeah, since junior high school. So he's always
had his his flow. You get me now, you know.
Always people are gonna feel like, uh, we all get
a little influences from somewhere. You'll get me. But uh,
I'm annoing Snoop since junior high school. He's always had

(26:23):
that that laid back flow. So it's all good. Uh,
But we get our influences from places.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
You give me. Ship, I was influence. I was.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
I was influenced by motherfucking Rocky I'm and ship you know.
Or I even heard of Easy Record, you know. I
used to just listen to New York rap, so rock
YIM was a heavy influence. You know what I'm saying,
Even when Easy and then first broke out.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
You know, I just I just like, I just thought
that was the dopest ship you get me niggas we
was games.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
I think everybody at.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
The time, Bro, I think that was the consensus. Who
was your biggest influence? Rock him, That's what I'm saying.
Rock yim Alaw, you know, Rocky Mali. I think everybody's
you know, that was the first dude that came out
because he made it to where when you heard everybody
else and stuff, it kind of sounded like comparing Mozart,

(27:24):
you know, or you know, a great poet to Doctor Seuss.
Almost he made all this ship sound like Doctor Seuss.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:32):
I like the lll Q and the older L, the
old school l rock the bells l outright. I was
heavy into him too, did you know what I mean?
Taught me about wordplay. I'll be doing the workplace ship.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (27:50):
So, but rock him when he came, he made my
word play.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Like he made me get up on the rock.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
Kim basically just put us in a different uh in
a different room of what was considered rap. You get
me from He took it from He just took it
from motherfucker. I guess what you thought was just fun

(28:21):
and you know, people whatever. He took it from the
hip the hop to hibbie shit, and he put it
in a He put it in a place to where
niggas could idolize the ship. Because now you're looking and
you're listening to a nigga who you feel represents you.

Speaker 1 (28:39):
You get me, you get.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
Like, you know, we had Grandmaster Flash and Curtis Blow
and the Fat Boys and all that, but being West
Coast niggas in Gang Bang and we just thought we
just had a different identity.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
And I guess when Rock came out, you know, with
with the with the sweatsuits and ship and the big
dookie gold chains and you've seen the gang of niggas
hanging at the park, sitting on the benches and shit
like that. It finded me of the of the d
boys in the hood. You give me of the niggas

(29:16):
who was balling in the neighborhood. So that's because niggas
was wearing funny outfits and different kind of shit before that,
and so when he came along, he was like a
regular nigga.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
To us.

Speaker 4 (29:28):
You know what I'm saying. So that's why rock Kim
was so much influential on my rap career, because it
wasn't like it wasn't it wasn't the fat boys with
funny shit. And then it wasn't Grand Master flashing them
with you know, with the psychedelic outfits and all that,
you know, like the like the bands of the seventies

(29:50):
and shit.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
That was more of that type of shit. So rock
yim deafly.

Speaker 3 (29:55):
Well you know what you can't forget with Grand Mester
flashing them. They did have the message. The message is hard.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Yeah, that was hard as fuck, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
But when you watch it, when you're watching them and
then you listening, different element you give me. You know,
when you get for sure the message and you can
put yourself in that type of situation. But when I
turn on the TV and I see these niggas looking
like they from out of space in the clothing, I'm like,
look the fuck is that that?

Speaker 1 (30:25):
Ain't you on the stuff and the lither pans and
stuff that definitely.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
Nigga we khaki suit thirty eight straps and radio bus
on the nigga. So I saying the message and nigga
broken glass everywhere. But nigga, we like nigga, please, that
is not all imagery. So that's what made it like Okay,
I like these niggas. But then even when the message

(30:54):
went off, you give me now you got white lines
and you give you like we were on some different
shit over here, homie.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
So we definitely gave you the DP boy vibe, the
rich homie vibe, you know, with the bens and with
the dookie ropes on ands and stuff.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
And we're not in.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Studio fifty four with them, Nigga, you give me, Nigga,
we on the block turning our ship Crack Rock.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
You feel me.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
So we from our representation of the streets to us
now the element of the story they were pushing on
the message you get me, that was that was what
we took. You know, niggas tired, fed up. You know
you ain't teaching me shit in school and all that.

(31:42):
But we wasn't on you know, we was on the
block with our ship. So it was more it was
more bdp or or or you know KRS and Rock
Him and Scotland Rock with the dope game and serving
on the block and we ya not up in the
motherfucker Studio fifty four when a three piece suit a

(32:05):
you know what I'm saying, snop serving one of their
motherfucking rich, motherfucking white doctors or some shit, and everybody
having fun on the floor.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Now, man, it was our our our scenario to how the.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
Rappers introduced themselves is how we gravitated to the motherfuckers.
Like I said, we banged more motherfucking rock him. Even though,
like you said, Grandmaster Flyers had the message for us,
but we took that into a different element.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Man.

Speaker 1 (32:37):
You get yeah, for sure, you know what.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
And one of the things links because I'm going this
timeline kind of that leads up to the season of
the Sickness to Kevil, all right, So needless to say,
you blowing up now, you know you got it going on.
You're doing a lot of shows and everything. What happened
after that?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (32:59):
Did it start getting funey over there black Market?

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I just seen him.

Speaker 5 (33:05):
He started buying cars and shit, And I was trying
to be cool, you know what I mean. I was like,
pay my rent, give me some give me some money
for the month. Let's try to blow this record up,
you know what I mean. And when I seen him
start buying cars and path finders and shit. That's when

(33:26):
I had to go, you know, go up in the
office and we had to have that cop and and
then I just got a whole bunch of promises and
we're gonna get you this, and we're gonna get get
you this day, and and it.

Speaker 2 (33:40):
Just went bad after that.

Speaker 5 (33:41):
After a couple of months after that first talk, it
just start going bad.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
So is that what we started singing? Kind of like
the almost put together releases, you know, the stuff that
was kind of like it may be an unfinished song
that you have in a random rap room there, and
you know somebody like you said, you didn't even know
these dudes.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Nah, I did.

Speaker 5 (34:01):
He you know, came up on some of my music
and start putting it out, stuff that I wasn't gonna use,
you know what I mean, and put other dudes on it.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
And threw it out there.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
Did you guys ever go through any legal situations? Did like,
did you ever get any of that remedy? Like when
he put those projects out, he had to compensate you
for him, right, Well.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
We did have to go to court.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
We went to court after a couple of things happened
you know, you know rein stype. Shit, you know they
playing in the neighborhood and shit, A couple of things happened.
Then a friend of mine said, man, just do it
the legal way. So I took him to court. Gave
me my first thirty thousand. I think I was like

(34:51):
twenty five. Gave me my first thirty thousand. I thought
I was rich. And then at the time it was
when I was sound a priority, So priorities start helping
me get my money insteaded them. Instead of them sending
a check to him, they would send me my part.

Speaker 2 (35:08):
And then send him his.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
And that's what usually happens when you have a successful
artist going through a subsidiary. They want to kind of
keep the relationship going, but they don't want last thing
they want you to do. Lynches be like, fuck this,
I ain't record and I can't even pay my rent.

Speaker 5 (35:23):
Wymarchae, I wonder I wanted to be straight with Priority,
like fuck black market, but said wasn't trying to let
that happen, but they was trying to fight for it.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
That's usually how it happens too, because us as black
executives sometimes, man, and I'm not gonna say all the time.
It's because they trying to necessarily be siicety. Sometimes they
just don't know no better man.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Right.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
But said, as a dude who came from the East Coast,
smart dude, I will say that.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
But he knew he was gonna do when he came
to the West Coast.

Speaker 5 (35:56):
He said, I'm gonna give me some California rapper, got
me an X rated, you know what I mean, and
make some money off these niggas.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
Nigga made some millions off me.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
And you know what, And because the thing is, you
came out during it. Hey, you initially came out and
the Hey, they had gainst the rep like you said,
you know, you had MCA, you had all this dope
stuff that was just really dropping the client. That was
just real dope, right, And you were hell a unique
because I know they would call your throw out style
horror core.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I listened to.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
Gagn To, but games nip horror core, which you do
with some whole other shit. It's like some I think
the term rip gut is appropriate.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's what I mean.

Speaker 5 (36:41):
They put me in the horror core category, and I
was like, fuck it, you know what I mean. I
didn't really want to be known for horror core. I
didn't really know much about it, you know what I mean.
But you know they always go through a label on
something though. Bro, So you're doing this and you're going
through all that, Man, what are you doing during this time?

(37:02):
Is that how you When did you link up a
Strange It was that I put an album out called
Lynch My Inch on my own. It was the first
album I put out myself, and I was and I
was just touring a lot and I ran into a
tech on one of his tours and he said, man, Travis,

(37:23):
the owner of the other owner of Strange Music, I
want to holler at you, And they brought me up
in the office and uh, and I turned them down
actually the first time, and then a couple of years later,
I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
I kind of got back active in.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
The streets with a little money, helping the little homies
and stuff, but I wasn't really doing no music, and uh, Strange,
you know, came at me again, gave me some money
and I said fuck it, and I signed and did
a three album three sixty deal with them. I shouldn't

(38:02):
have did that, but but I figure since.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Side that the album The Wild to do that.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
It definitely.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
You know, the one thing about messing with Strange Man
is they do a lot of touring and they're going
to introduce you.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
To their fan base.

Speaker 3 (38:19):
It's like, if you do anything with them, you go
get a whole bunch of them juggalos, you get a
whole bunch of different white folks. You go broad in
your fans, you brought in your rise.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Hey, bro, my proud went from black to white when
I joined.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Them, just that quick.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
Like it's funny because when I do my own tours,
it's black, but when I do tours with them, it's
always white.

Speaker 4 (38:45):
That's crazy with them because of where they're based at.
And that's because the area they're based around, and they
just cater to a lot of the different that audience.

Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, yeah, you know what I think it is with
Strange Ay, I think Tech has just built him a following,
Because you got to think about it, Tech is kind
of like Lynch in the sense that they both real unique.
They both one's the one you ain't gonna hear nobody
to rap like them. They got their own kind of presence.
So I think that attracts kind of like a different
demographic almost because I know it's black people to listen

(39:22):
to tech, but it just happens to be a whole
bunch of white folks. And I know of Run Hawaii,
he huge man. They love him over there and loved
him over there, and and Lynch was at the beginning,
early on in his career, he was messing with the
Juggalos a whole lot. So I think some of that
Juggalo fan base migrated over there too. But you know,
shout out to them, dudes, because they're doing their thing.

(39:44):
But so you got this whole litigation going out with
Black Market. When did you officially dissolve your relationship with
the label?

Speaker 5 (39:53):
Shit to me when I left after season, But technically
it was around ninety eight because we went we went
in the court in the middle of ninety eight and
settled later that year. So that's when I started sick

(40:14):
made music and put out some records through the distributor
out of Tennessee.

Speaker 4 (40:22):
So what was initially what was their problem? They just
didn't want to pay. They didn't want to He didn't
even try to pay.

Speaker 5 (40:31):
It was like it was a trying to punk situation,
trying to punk.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
So he put out what I felt.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
So he put out the records and no advances, no anything.
He just like, Nigga, we're gonna go to the studio,
you're gonna record. I'm gonna go get the deal and
fuck it. Like nigga, I ain't giving y'all his.

Speaker 5 (40:51):
Major excuses, his major excuses. He was having problems getting
the money from the distributor.

Speaker 2 (40:58):
That was his excuse.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
And they they and they were and they had a
deal with Priority. So there there's there's the first lie
right there. Because you don't have to get in here
from the distributor. Priority gonna get that money.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
You getting me, you know, you.

Speaker 4 (41:18):
Getting paid because Priority is getting that money from those
one stops and the distributors who are motherfucking buying those records.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
So for him to turn the getting the chicked for sure.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
So for you that the first lie.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
I m to turn around and go, well, I'm having problems.
There's your first line, nigga, because your deal was with Priority,
and Priority ain't got no problem cutting no motherfucking check
if they are.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Now you know what I did. I could see if
we're talking about twenty four deep and he going through
city Hall or whatever, and it is hell trying to
collect the reserves from them cut sometimes right, But once
you get the priority, what should have happened. I'm pretty
sure Priority advanced him some money based on the sales
that you had for twenty four D. I'm pretty sure

(42:08):
what you did for twenty four deep. That's how he
got into the priority building. Right. It's like and I'm
pretty sure they gave him a check, but it should.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Have happened a money.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
They gave him an advance contract with and everything else,
especially if he had two artists. If he had two
artists and both of them came out on black market Priority,
they gave him money for both of them motherfucking acts.
So shit, the nigga could So the nigga could have
got a check for anywhere between two hundred thousand and

(42:41):
five hundred grand because he got two.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
Groups and that and that's ina. They was giving up
budgets back then in the nineties. Yeah, they was giving
up minimum. The minimum was was two hundred and fifty grand.
Oh yeah, you was get paid because you know what
we got when Glasses went over the Sony Dog and

(43:05):
that was in the two thousand, say, that was kind
of like when everything it wasn't going bad, but it
wasn't like it was back then. Glass, God damn, this
like like six hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (43:15):
Dog again, like I total in ninety two, ninety three
when I found out that I was getting fucked out
of publishing money and advances and all of that. They
was collecting two hundred and seventy five thousand from EPIC

(43:38):
and I had no idea what the budgets was. Luckily,
I found out a nigga was trying to rob me,
and I found out so I basically just went and said,
I'm not gonna do any more records unless y'all kick
this nigga out. Fuck this shit. I'm still rugged than

(44:00):
this shit. And a nigga living in fucking a nigga
living in like and they always want to front on
you too, right, They always want to go buys a
gang of cars and a gang of shit, and you
sitting up going like, god damn, where's my shit at, nigga.
I'm on the road, I'm writing raps, I'm out here.
Niggas is nigga.

Speaker 1 (44:22):
Nigga.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
I had to sign a thousand autographs yesterday at a
motherfucking in store.

Speaker 1 (44:27):
You feel me?

Speaker 4 (44:28):
But then when I get off the tour bus or
the plane, I'm pulling back up in my motherfucking sister's driveway,
like what the fuck is Like something is wrong? And
then every time we go sit down at a meeting,
you pulling up in a new whip.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
Oh man, like you should at the very least, man,
you know, thinking about the lynch, you should have probably
been presented with a you know, another formal contract at
that time, with an advance and the album budget, because
I believe, if I'm not mistaken, you were the biggest
thing to come out of Sacramento at that time. You
guys could have just by doing proper business sining scene

(45:10):
could have been still getting money today. He so kind
of I was down. I was.

Speaker 5 (45:15):
I told him, nigga, he could ride this album just
paying nigga, that's it.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
And that's all he could have been.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
You know, give you an advance, man, and even if
it's an advance, like you know where links here you
go he goes seventy five for an advance, and your
recording budget is this, and just keep doing big, good
business so you can keep putting out albums because is
not a lick.

Speaker 5 (45:38):
And at the time too bruh. You know X had
did that that, you know that murder. So his album
was semi getting banned, and that was the only artist
artist black Market had at the time.

Speaker 2 (45:51):
And his his album.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
Was Lightweight, getting banned everywhere because you know, he murdered somebody's.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Mom, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I remember that.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
So his album was lightweight band not getting put in
stores and stuff. So I was the main artist, So
he was going in on me trying to get paid.

Speaker 3 (46:11):
And season of the sickness. I believe it was maybe
five years ago. I know that it's achieved gold status
right now, right, you got a gold plaque for that, right, yeah,
So that that's gonna go. And you should probably go
check up on twenty four deep bro.

Speaker 1 (46:29):
Yeah, of records.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
Bro, It's twenty four deep sold a lot of records,
and I don't know what you can do now. I
would think right about now, you probably had position of
both of those masters right now, right, yeah, yeah, I
don't know. Yeah, So if you own a dog, it's
like it don't even matter, man, But I would check
on my certification for it, just to you know, just
you know, you want your plaques and stuff them your trophies.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, I thought about it.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
I go through BMG right now, so I'm probably go
to Fred and you know what I'm saying that I
did think about that though.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
And you a real visual dude, man. I love the
way you're right. Have you ever thought about getting into
film or anything?

Speaker 2 (47:08):
Come on it? Huh with funk Betty here my producer
and ship?

Speaker 3 (47:14):
Okay, okay, have you ever thought about getting into production? Bro?

Speaker 2 (47:20):
What a funk?

Speaker 3 (47:21):
What a funk?

Speaker 1 (47:22):
Beta?

Speaker 2 (47:23):
It's going on with bubble at and pimping.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
Ship everything but the ship against the Chronicles. Man, we
just got funk. Beata do bump rush the interview. It's
all good, my bad, It's all good, bro, It's all
good man. That's what gainst the Chronicles. You know you
y'all getting alive and uncut?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (47:45):
But have you ever thought about doing anything movie wise?

Speaker 2 (47:48):
Bro?

Speaker 5 (47:51):
Bruh right now? I did a couple of movies priority.
I don't know if you know who Dave Winder. He
wrote a movie called Now eight and I was the
star of it. But it was real low budget. But
I did some If you see this movie A Wall
seventy two, I was an extra in there, and I

(48:14):
did a couple just extra type shit. But right now
I'm doing the iPhone movie.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
I've been doing it for about like nine months now,
but I you know, I don't talk about it too
much stuff, but I've always wanted to do it. He
ain you a lot of the reason why I wanted
to do it.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
Real talk.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
Thanks, I'm gonna tell you right now, kill me and
eight got some stuff going on, bro, We got some
stuff going on with that man. You know that we
go all about down you know a little bit, you know,
when it's a little bit more official, because right now
it's in the very early infhasy stages of a dog
and were getting everything together. But I thought I would

(48:55):
love to do some horror stuff with you. You Ain't never
thought about getting into know, because that's who you are, bro.
You hip hop Stephen Spielberg is still real full you know,
Lynch's hip hop Steven Spielberg because he goes say some stuff.
But it's not some of that stuff that came out
back in the day, and the horror core stuff was
corny Yours stuff is like just real visual and just

(49:20):
real fistlero, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
It's like kind of.

Speaker 5 (49:23):
Just I don't listen to horrorcore rappers, Like I never
heard Gangster and that stuff. You know what I mean,
I never heard each stuff. I don't really listen to
hardcore rap. That's why it's a trip that put me there.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Yeah, I say you as a dude, you probably ride
around all day listening to stuff like MF. Doom and
all the dudes that really spit up.

Speaker 5 (49:45):
Man, I'll be listening in the crooked eye.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I'll be listening in the uh.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Man.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
I ain't been listening to the rap really in like
ten years.

Speaker 1 (49:53):
Though.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
You sound about like eight dog. Oh. Look, you know
you sound like Hey, no is gonna be playing everything
pre two thousand and seven, probably.

Speaker 4 (50:06):
Everything I said.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
There's nothing wrong with.

Speaker 4 (50:11):
There's nothing wrong with new artists, but it don't follow
my storyline of what I'm used to as far as
music concerned. Music that that that calms this savage beast.
You get me, and I like what I like, And
like I said, no disrespect to none of the new artists.

(50:33):
Music has transitioned. Music has transitioned into a whole new genre,
you know. And I could only imagine what my mom
and them thought when we started rapping. You get me,
even though it wasn't to the point of where they

(50:56):
couldn't understand it or you know, it was whatever. I
spoke very clearly and telling you, nigga, uh it was,
but they just didn't understand it because it was it
was a new It was new to them. You give me,
you know, you got all these and then and then

(51:17):
what we represented as far as music is concerned, Like
I said, because I was a young nigga at one time,
like yourself, like you still, we was all eighteen nineteen
and motherfucker, I fucking nigga up or I do whatever,
and you know when Mom's probably told me some shit

(51:37):
like why are you nigga doing that? Nigga, I'm like, nigga,
it's my shit.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
You give me. You can't tell me nothing.

Speaker 4 (51:45):
All wasn't Finnah go getting on nine to five or
you know, once the bug hit nigga, it's all about
pushing this art form right here. But they couldn't understand it.
We got a lot of people. There were some people
who probably felt like let them express and then there
were some motherfuckers who just didn't understand what we were doing.

(52:08):
Now I understand niggas won't to express themselves today with
their music, especially niggas who walked our walk, you feel
me like the young homies today who's walking our walk?
You feel me they got the same attitude. You can't
tell me shit, niggas.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
There's definitely some.

Speaker 3 (52:29):
Young spinners out there. It's definitely some young not the
discrediting And like I said, I feel like it's coming
back a little bit.

Speaker 5 (52:38):
I feel like it is coming back right now as
we speak, Lyricss coming back.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
Speaking, you know, speaking of that Lynch, what did you
think about the whole You know, they every era was
something new happened. They labeled it as the biggest thing happening.
I don't know if Drake can't like Drake could even
see you lyrically though, Broun.

Speaker 5 (53:02):
I mean, you know, everybody got their conspiracy theories. I
don't believe in ghostwriters, you know what I mean. So
if he was gonna ask me about that Kendrick Lamar
and Drank battle, I know Kendrick writes his shit, I'm
not sure sure, I'm not sure if Drink does. So

(53:23):
I took I didn't really take that battle like like
everybody else did.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
I didn't.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
I was to be honest, with you dog. He told
me one day he didn't want to talk about it
no more, and I was kind of low key relieved.
I was like, good man, I don't want to talk
about this shit no more either, because it's so you know,
I don't even know why it's considered a battle. If
you got one cat that don't write his shit, now
I can understand you in the course of songwriting getting
some hooks here and there or whatever like that, that's

(53:51):
just collaborating at that point thing because you might be
doing something with Funk Beta, he might have something that
got a hook on it already.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
Yeah, I believe in that if you're creating, bro. But
I grew up a battle rapper in the eighties. I
was a battle rapper, you know what I mean. That's
why you know, I pride myself on lyrics and when
somebody else writing for somebody, man, I just I don't
get that part of the game. I mean, maybe it's
something new that I just never caught onto. You know,

(54:18):
the big artists. I heard Jay Z and all these
people got ghostwriters sometimes, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Ghost writer, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (54:28):
I would be disappointed if I heard whole here somebody
was writing his reps.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
I've heard it. I heard that.

Speaker 3 (54:35):
Hmmm, that's something else. Man, you know what ship?

Speaker 1 (54:42):
Who else?

Speaker 3 (54:43):
You don't heart links? You might be breaking some more
news man. Who else are there getting the ship ghost written?
But I taking credit.

Speaker 2 (54:48):
I'm gonna keep my mouth out. I'm gonna keep my
mouth set now. I want somebody attacked me, but I
don't want to. I don't want to start.

Speaker 1 (54:57):
I want to.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
I want a rapper to attack me, but I don't
want to start.

Speaker 3 (54:59):
No shit, I heard that, man. I don't think too
many people gonna try to fuck with you, Lynch. I
think you one of them dudes. They like, we're gonna
leave his ass Loan.

Speaker 2 (55:10):
Right, Loan. I should keep this out out, but I'm
gonna let this out, bro. When I uh.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
When I was in l A, Bro, I had a
drinking problem. I went to the hospital two times. I
had to stop drinking. When I lived in la and Brouh.
I got to the point where I couldn't even remember
my kids' names or nothing. When they're in the hospital
that is asking me questions I couldn't even answer. So
I could, man, I had to with this album.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
I had to. I had to learn how to rap again.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
Wow man, Wow man, I'm glad that you were hearing
sober now Man, So you've been so you've been really
going through some ship links for you to even be
able to put this album out. It's pretty amazing, man,
Because alcoholism people don't talk about it like they talk
about the others, you know, diseases and stuff like that,
but alcoholisms, alcoholism is a real debilitating disease.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
Bro Man, I had I had a man.

Speaker 5 (56:07):
If you don't remember, bro, I had a beard the
whole time was working.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
On that album.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
Yeah, if you then the uh, that's some something we
don't you know, they don't really I guess they don't
really look at when people or in our positions. I
don't know, because motherfuckers don't check for us or worried
about mental or or abuse or whatever like that. We're

(56:34):
supposed to be just niggas from the block, invincible to anything.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
You get me.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Uh, But we we men first, and then we're being
black men, and and with the vices and ship that
you know, we had to put on ourselves just to
cope with this type of ship. And then that's a
that's the that's a double when you got to watch

(57:00):
back from from street shit, and and then you gotta
be able to get into the studio and produce some
shit you know good enough that a motherfucker want to
spend this ten dollars and shit. So it's the hustle.
It's the hustle double that causes us to smoke. You
get me, and niggas don't look at the smoking weed

(57:22):
as being addicted and shit. But nigga, I need some weed.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
You give me.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
I don't give a fuck, nigga. Wherever it's a lot eight.

Speaker 3 (57:33):
It's a lot, bro, because it's not a natural thing
to grow up getting shot at. You're shooting at people
that's going through this or having it. You know, it's
a lot man. You may have a parent, like both
of you guys have mentioned links. I heard you mentioned
earlier that your mom struggled with addiction. You just said
your father struggle with addiction. He was functioning, but he
still struggled with addiction to the point to where it

(57:54):
impacted your family. All that stuff is not natural, man,
So you have to find an outlet, man, something, just
to get through it. Because it's not like we had parents. Hey,
I'm going to go get you therapy. I'm gonna tell
you something. I'm gonna reveal something everybody too. I've been
getting therapy for the last two years, and it's the

(58:14):
best thing in my life, you know, because you your
life becomes like it almost your life almost comes under
a microscope when you start doing anything and entertainment, right, yeah,
And everybody seems to have this ideal that you got
money that you don't necessarily have, and you're getting it
from all. It's a lot of pressure and it's a

(58:35):
lot of stress. So I advise anybody, man, go get
some therapy, Go get somebody to talk to bro get
it off your chest, because I think in our community, man,
that's the thing. It's like, Man, I'm gonna roll a
blunt up and I'm gonna go get me a beer
and I'm gonna sit down and just forget about the shit.
The problem is still there, but you just numbing it out.
You never addressing the dealing with nothing. Therapy definitely helps

(58:56):
you deal with everything.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
My thing was as far as therapy, I didn't want
to talk to no stranger about my shit, you know.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
I Mean, that's how I used to think.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
I'm probably more open to that today, but back then,
I wasn't trying.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
To tell those strangers nothing. I don't know why I felt.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
Like that back then, And I'm gonna tell you we're
probably like honestly, would probably really help cats like you
and ad as well. It's the fact that y'all was rappers.
You would get to be able to get stuff off
your chest to a certain extent, you feel what I
mean to the world, and you would get to go
out and.

Speaker 1 (59:33):
Just kind of fit and let it out right.

Speaker 3 (59:35):
But I'm gonna tell you, man, I had that thing too,
to where I was like, why am I gonna go
talk to some dude this sentence? He don't he can't
identify what the hell I got going on. But sometimes
just having somebody there that listening your ass, that's not
gonna judge you, and you're telling them all this fucked
up shit you got going through your mind, and you
think about doing this, and you think about doing that.

(59:55):
Nigga sitting there looking at you like this and listening
and the ain't not judging you, Bro's It's a certain
liberty to that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
It's a certain freedom of that. Man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
I'm just saying, I'm really glad that you got that
figured out, bro, and you went, I don't know how
you did it. Man, you feel what I'm saying, I
don't know how you did it was you got hold up.

Speaker 4 (01:00:17):
You as a black man who you you felt like
you was having situations to where you were being judged.
So you felt like you had to go sit down
and talk to somebody about who wouldn't judge you for
having a thought of it was want to kill it?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Yeah, it was than that. It goes ass right, because yeah,
it was a little bit deeper than that. Did you
have to do?

Speaker 4 (01:00:49):
You think you had to get therapy because you were
in a situation and you can't have nothing necessarily because
of that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:59):
I think just after so many years eight having stuff
just bottled up. It's like if you feel a Pepsi
bottle of water right and you've got a cap on
that motherfucker, Eventually, if you keep putting water in it
a high pressure, that motherfucker blow up. I felt like
I was at the point of I was about to
blow up dog. It would be like and it's just
not from current stuff I'm talking about. This is stuff

(01:01:20):
from my childhoodble dam because I think as black men,
we always talk just to kind of take stuff on
the sind and keep it moving, kind of do it
with a smile. You feel what I'm saying, Like I'm
not tripping, I'm just moving on whatever whatever. Because it's
like I noticed, with us as black men, we really

(01:01:41):
don't deal with stress very well. Because all everybody's sitting
on this phone right now, Bro, got a certain amount
of pressure that they deal with, whether it be financially.
We got certain expectations that you know, come away. And
that's just being a man. We ain't no different than
the dude that work in no factory all day dog
and he got to figure out how to pay for
this and figure that. We all got it. It's just

(01:02:02):
not that, Bro. You think about certain situations, right You
think about you may say, Man, you know what, Man,
I made this mistake when I was eighteen, This cost
to me right now, or I did this you know,
just the pressure of life, man, just the eels of life. Man.
As a motherfucker, I do think about Go ahead, Lynx.

(01:02:24):
You know what's weird about me. It's my stress is backwards.

Speaker 5 (01:02:28):
Like I could let the pass go easy, but I
worry a lot about the future.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Same with me, Bro, same here. I think that's all
of us is I think, coming from the surroundings and
the environment we all come from. I think we already
kind of born war ready to a certain extent to
where man, you can't do nothing too bad for me.
I don't like I've never sat back and worried about
really losing money, because I've came up and where I
come from do it. It's a miracle. I'm even here today.

(01:02:56):
I think about some of the stuff I have right now.
There's things I have and I'm like, thank you God, Bro,
you know this is unbelievable. Me come up where I
come from, right. But then the same token I always wonder, man,
like you know what, man, we all went through those
faces when we was younger, where we spent absorbing amounts
of money and we think like, damn, man, I wish
I wouldn't have spent that money back then. Man, I

(01:03:18):
could have done this, and I be had this right
now to look forward to. You know, So you do
have that, and I think, especially getting older because us
as black men too. I'm gonna tell you the number
one thing we go through, the number one thing that's
running rapid through our communities right now, it's exist because
you would have a motherfucker to look older than you
because he on peels and drinking every day, calling you

(01:03:40):
og and you old and you could be thirty years old.
That's real time. If you were twenty nine, thirty years old,
you are considered og. I was getting called og when
I was thirty. How about y'all, Like, did y'all have kids?
Younger dudes calling y'all og when y'all was thirty?

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
I says the younger generation. I think the younger gen generation,
it used to be different for us. It used to
be like shit, It used to be like at twenty
one for us. Back then, at twenty one, you was you.
You still a pup, you were still a kid. Shit
at twenty five, you didn't know shit. Still you get me.

(01:04:18):
It seems like this generation is it's flipped nigga. You're
an old nigga by time you hit thirty. That's how
they That's how their young generation is today. The age
limit is between fifteen the motherfucking twenty five. After you
turn twenty five, you start going downhill. But now you

(01:04:41):
old oldbody nobody. And I was when I was fucking
twenty five thirty, I wasn't getting called og because the
niggas that I grew up were still around the generation
now they was bab so they couldn't calm me no

(01:05:02):
g So it was we still had that. But now
you give me Now, if you thirty and a kid
is fifteen to seventeen, eighteen twenty, you are og nigga
you thirty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:05:18):
It's like the standard because to me, when I was
twenty five or thirty, I used to look at kind
of like if a cat was fifty five or sixty,
options look at that as old, right, But I didn't
look at them. It's just like, oh they out the game.

Speaker 4 (01:05:30):
No, they out to look right now, this like man
nigga when we was about what when we was nineteen
twenty old, to us was a motherfucker with fucking gray
hair and a walking cane and shit and grab.

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
We just we didn't look at a motherfucker like thirty five,
forty forty five, fifty as oh that's an old motherfucker.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
That was No, I didn't think. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
This generation right now, that.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
Was my mama. I didn't look at my mama.

Speaker 3 (01:06:05):
That's what I'm saying, because my mama was still going
to hang out and go kick it with the home
girls and they was old people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:14):
To me was a motherfucker. You got to help across
the street and she got here.

Speaker 3 (01:06:20):
I look at my grand That's how I like. No,
But today it's like now today you are an og.

Speaker 1 (01:06:30):
Oh, you're definitely an old nigga.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
You you over thirty, you definitely og and not to
the But that's just the youngsters instead of going that's
when they try to pay you a little respect. You're
and me because they'll just call you an old ass nigga.
You feel me, But they give you that og aog
og you know. That's that's what the youngsters do today.

(01:06:53):
That's their generation thing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
And then part of that too because they growing up
faster than we did. Yeah, that nigga like thirty as
of like a og now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
You know what I mean. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (01:07:08):
I'm mid the six year old, you know what that
mess and ship you're getting me. Back in our days,
if this type of shit was available, you think your
mama would have been buying you a cell phone at
five or six years old, or letting.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
You whatever hell never happened.

Speaker 2 (01:07:22):
You get me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
But this generation is You're damn right. They growed up fast.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
They grew up faster. And one thing I will get
this generation props on. This is the generation to where
entrepreneurialship and just owning your own business and doing your
own thing. Shout out to all them young brothers out
there that's getting to that money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:07:45):
It's some young cats out here making serious money in
the rep game now and on the tech game, in
the podcast game, and the streaming game. They get into
it because their thing is like this, I'm not going
to go work at no job that I don't want
to do. I think our generation we would go do
what we had to do. Our parents did what they
had to do. This generation u uh, I'm not doing that.
This is what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
And I'm just those options they didn't have near those options.

Speaker 3 (01:08:11):
Well, you know what, this computer, this shit we talking
on right now, made it real gravy for the little homie.
So so shout out to them. You know, Lynch, I
want to get into this new album because we don't
been on here for a while now. Right, You said
she was battling alcoholism man, he was battling quitting you
put the bottle down, man. To go into this, you
had to learn how to wrap all over again. How
long did it take you to record this album?

Speaker 2 (01:08:34):
Shit like nine months?

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
I started, Well, I started, and I started July fourth
of twenty twenty three, had it done by.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
The end of November. And who handled the production? Because
you produced a lot of your own stuff too, right.

Speaker 5 (01:08:54):
I produced the whole thing because one of my boys
told me, he said, man, you should just produced the
whole thing like he did the first one. Because I
couldn't find producers that was giving me the I mean
a lot of producers given me some stuff with samples
of my old album. And I wasn't trying to, you know,
do all that type of you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Making remaking beats from the old album.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
I'm like, bru, this your own ship, like so they
coming to you would low to the brain.

Speaker 2 (01:09:27):
Part two, Well, a lot of ship didn't happen.

Speaker 5 (01:09:33):
A lot of a lot of my homies I was
on the original one gone, you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:39):
Know, because because you started off. Because I remember the crew,
baby Rage he gone, baby baby Rage missed the doctor
he gone, and we all we're not gonna mention the
other cat, you know, but he got his situation, man,
and that that that's you know, that's a lot right there.

(01:10:01):
That's trauma, your crew that you started off rapping. We
ain't even here no more. Literally, when you revisit the album.

Speaker 5 (01:10:08):
Locked Up, Hiding One's hiding one and a couple of
them locked up. One of them was my baby's mom
on that. I'm still in touch with her. The zag
been under Love to the Brain song with my baby Mama.

Speaker 3 (01:10:25):
Oh, zag was your Okay, So she was because I
heard rumors of that, people saying that's this woman because
she was busting.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Yeah, seeim she learned that and rap by just rapping
my wrap just started writing her own ship after a while.
So so she finally got good enough for me to
get on the song that was actually our first song
and she got on.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Yeah, that's a big record for better. He had got
big than the motherfucker, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Oh, she's still living out those dreams. Crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
That's crazy, man. So you produced this whole thing. I'm
gonna tell you man. First of all, I'm not going lynch.
I am such a fan of the original season of
the Sickness that I came into this really looking like
what my spectacles on. I said, Okay, don't let me
hear this because the way I listen to music, because
I'm kind of like, y'all, I don't listen to a

(01:11:14):
lot of music, but that's kind of like my job
kind of now, you know, to be up on what's
going on. So it's some dudes that I listen to.
But I listened to it like this. I listened to
usually thirty seconds of a song, then on to the
next one, on to the next one, verse to the hook.
That's all I care about, right this one. By the
time I got to I've Changed, I was listening to
it all the way through because you got so much

(01:11:36):
deep shit you saying in there. I've Changed. It's a
real personal record, man. You address a lot of stuff
in there. Yeah, you address a situation, and I like
the way you do it because you do it to
where you not like telling them, but you're telling the story.
You talked about a studio getting broken too, and you
let somebody breathe. Yeah, that's right, and you let somebody breathe.

(01:11:58):
Then you addressed like you dealt with the death of
your sister, man, and you handle. You handle your grief
in a really unique way.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
It's almost like you kind of like you almost as
scary as your music sound, it's almost comedic in the
same tone, because you got a lot of satire in
your stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Yeah, I try to keep it cool, but that that
that second verse was kind of hard to write because
like that happened a while ago, you know what I mean.
And for me to bring that back, I had to
get in this certain head space for a second that I.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Didn't really want to get in.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
But yeah, that was a hard time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
Bro.

Speaker 5 (01:12:39):
I was on tour and she she asked if her
boyfriend can stay at the house. She was living in
my house and I told her, yeah, went on tour,
he killed her in my house.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
So I saw that house.

Speaker 1 (01:12:54):
Wow. So and I'm sorry that And.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
You know, I brought I was a whole song at first.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
I had to I went back and wrote the I
rewrote the first verse to change it up because I
was a full song at first, and I decided I
didn't want to go to a deep about it because
I want to be able to listen to my album.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Sometimes, right, you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
And you don't want to have to keep to keep
being reminded of the tragedy and ship. You know who
wants to minding themselves with tragedy.

Speaker 3 (01:13:26):
So definitely, because that's what hip hop is. Hip hop
is definitely the soundtrack to our experiences.

Speaker 5 (01:13:36):
Definitely my thoughts in my album.

Speaker 4 (01:13:40):
Yeah, we want to let people live a little bit
to our lives and to show people that we real
motherfuckers and that everything is just not imaginary. Ship that's
just start up about, you know, like you to see
it on TV or some make believe shit. So we
give you bits and pieces and ship, and we even
gonna tell you the struggle ship sometimes. It's how we

(01:14:03):
deal with, you know, not having to get out here
and result to the street ship like we used to
or had the first mother in mind to do. You
give me because the first mind, the first your mind
state is first to result into doing some ship that
you have been taught is by the cold, so to speak.

(01:14:25):
You give me, and when you consider yourself a real nigga,
you always, you know, feel that you got to deal
with ship according to the cold.

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
So you can't give it. You can't give them a
little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
We try to let them in and let them and
let them experience some of the ship that that we
got to walk through, because you know, people be thinking
enough for real nigga's invincible or happeness celebrities and not
that you even want to consider because I hate even
that that word. I hate considering that ship because I'm

(01:14:59):
I'm like a regular nigga. Just I'm just I'm just
I'm just able to talk to you on the record
you feel me and tell you yeah, yeah, you know,
but that's what you You gotta walk with that. So
they tell us, you know, you can't let everybody know everything,
especially when you in our positions as ship, because it's

(01:15:21):
some crazy motherfuckers out there and they'll twist up ship
and they'll try to take advantage of of.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
Your heartache you feel me, or your tragedy.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
So you just give niggas a little you give niggas
just a little bit you feel me, because you never
know it'll be a motherfucker two years from now call
themselves wanting to dish you and then they taking your
pain and your tragedy and trying to use it against
you in a disc record and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
So you just you can't let mother forig for real,
you can't let that motherfucker get.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Ache.

Speaker 3 (01:15:57):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
You bed the viral record.

Speaker 3 (01:16:05):
That's a crazy ass that that record right there was
crazy too. I just trip on how you handled the
production road because you ain't falling. If anything, I dare
to say that you probably are better. You were a
better raper than you were back then, and you wassomena
to be back then.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
It's funny.

Speaker 5 (01:16:23):
It's funny you say that too, because like part of
the decision to even do a part two, because you know,
everybody eating part two of the movies, you know, I
ain't gonna be as good. You know what I mean
you saying that? That was part of the reason why
I chose to like do the part two is because
I listened to the lyrics on part one and I
was like, come on, now, I can grap better than

(01:16:45):
that right now, you know what I mean? So that
was a different bruh. It's the crazy you say that, man,
That was like fifty percent of the reason why I
decided to do a part two.

Speaker 1 (01:16:58):
Yeah, you was on there.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
You was on their bus man, and I think it's
at the point now it's a good time for the ogz.
You know. Killer Mike won the Grammy. He a brother
that's you know, approaching his fifties. If he ain't in
his fifties yet, you know, he won a Grammy on
this stuff, man, And it's a lot of older brothers
out there doing their thing because you got audiences for it.
Now you got cats, and you know, fifty years of

(01:17:19):
hip hop, you got cats and they fifty fifty five
riding around their cars and they teslas bumping music bumping
mc aight't and brother Lynch on they way to the office.
You feel what I'm saying. So it's a time, man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
You gotta keep the five music for them.

Speaker 3 (01:17:33):
I'm fifty six, man, you don't sound like no fifty.
You know, if you'd have told me back in the
day that we was gonna have dudes fifty two and
fifty three and fifty six rapping and they was gonna
be tight, I would have been like, hey, oll no,
but brothers out here, you getting to it on there?

Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
Man?

Speaker 1 (01:17:47):
I hate that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
I look like I look at it like this, bro.
Music is music. Music ain't got no age to me.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
But we said it's only our shit, though, why is that?
Why is rap or hip hop giving us an age
limit of you can do it or not but it's
only certain niggas, right, And that's the crazy shit, because
they don't say that about every hip hop artist. You're right,

(01:18:20):
they only say that few. They don't say it about everybody.
They say it about a few. So I just I
just don't understand that, because when it comes to rock
and roll, when it comes to R and B, when
it comes to pop, when it comes to jazz, it
don't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:18:34):
You could be fifty, you could be eight to eighty,
and you can put out a record.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
As far as hip hop is concerned, Like once you
get over thirty five, you shouldn't rap anymore. It's like
it's like we are. It's like our shit is like
the NFL or or the NBA. You know, it's an
age limit. Once you get forty. Well, you know what,

(01:18:59):
you can't play basketball anymore. Once you get forty, you
can't play football anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:19:06):
You're not a real thing, though, But far as with rap,
it shouldn't be like that.

Speaker 4 (01:19:11):
But that's but that's how they consider it, not that
it's not real with us. And of course I don't
want to make the comparisons of the physicality of the
NBA or NFL, but it's like you we already setting
up your retirement plan. Once you turn thirty five, you
might as well start getting ready to retire because you're

(01:19:33):
looked at it's like, damn nigga, you fifty and you
still rapping, Like okay, what that don't determine my finances
or my situation. Like niggas feel like if you still
rapping that fifty, you broken.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
You ain't made no money.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50):
No.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
I just think it's like you said, you know, rapping
is not a physical thing. You know, it's a mental exertion.
It's not a physical exertion. You don't have to you know,
you don't have to go in the gym and get
in shape to go recording album. Now you may have
to start riding your bike to go on tour and
go on the road, but you don't necessarily have to
be in the best physical shape in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:20:10):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
I think that through your life experiences, you naturally are
going to become a more proficient rapper. Your vocabulary is broader,
you have a different train of thought on things you
not thinking because I know when I was twenty three
years old, I'm a way different man night and day.

Speaker 1 (01:20:26):
I'm not even.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
Close to the man I was when I was twenty three.
I was a little boy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:31):
Yeah, and like you said, the train of thought is
way different from being twenty five to be in fifty.
You get me, like you said, And that's.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
What this sounds like.

Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
It sounds like a more evolved It sounds like a
more evolved album is not as banged out. It's really
not banged.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Out at all.

Speaker 3 (01:20:48):
It's a lot of real clever. I know you probably said,
and listen to the whole thing, get eight, But this
motherfucker's jam and it's lapping.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
Oh definitely.

Speaker 5 (01:20:57):
It's a little different what I tried to do because
since I don't own the Loaded album no more, I
tried to mix in style wise a little bit of
Loaded so I could bring that back from people who
did because a lot of people picked up on Loaded.
Loaded was a weed album, you know what I mean.
I wasn't thinking of keeping the Season of the Sickness
tem going like a story. So the next album after

(01:21:20):
Season of the Sickness was Loaded. It's a weed album,
and but you know, black Market Records on that, and
I wanted to kind of get a little bit of
that back because that was a phase of fans that,
like I still kind of got so I kind of
mixed that in with this album.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
So yeah, Loaded was your big return album. I remember
was like I said, I had a record store and
that's what we was talking about, a retail links coming
with the album Load. You know, that was supposed to
be your big return. That was your big return.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
People thought it was gonna be like a season of
the Sickness part too, and then ended up being a
smoking album. And at first they didn't really take to it,
and then you know, later on they was like, oh man,
that's a classic album.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
They send to be mad at first.

Speaker 1 (01:22:07):
Though, Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 3 (01:22:09):
It was one of them dudes that was mad at
first because it was cool and at that time, Ate
I didn't smoke weed, right, I was like, what the
fuck is this ship right here?

Speaker 2 (01:22:17):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:22:18):
Like I want to hear some more of that, him
talking about the babies and taking people's heads off.

Speaker 1 (01:22:23):
And all that shit.

Speaker 2 (01:22:24):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
I want to hear some of this.

Speaker 2 (01:22:26):
You weren't the only one, bro. Everybody expected that. Again.
You know, I don't know whether they're calling the mistake
or not.

Speaker 5 (01:22:34):
It's just I'm the type of artist bro like like
like I said, rap ain't got no age. As soon
as I feel like making another album, I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
I don't care what age I am. That's what kind
of rapper I am.

Speaker 3 (01:22:45):
So people would be out there to support it, and
people would be out there to support it and buy it. Man,
link you know what, Man, we could talk to you
all night.

Speaker 1 (01:22:53):
Brother. Definitely, what's next? What's next on the Agender bro?

Speaker 5 (01:23:00):
Right now, I'm working on a little project to follow
up this season of the Sickness. I'm oh twenty you know,
my my Hood's twenty four. That's why I dropped this
album this year, in twenty twenty four. So I'm gonna
give him a little something else before this year is out,
and then I'm gonna move on the next.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
Year and start the new album.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
Yeah, man, because we've been eleven years, so I ain't
gonna let another eleven years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
Go by it.

Speaker 3 (01:23:28):
That's right, because you definitely got a lot of fans
that want to hear you, and I know we got
a lot of stuff in the works as far as
for eight Man, and I would love to build it
fit with eight bless and I would love to be
able to pull you in on some of them sessions
because we got you know, we're talking about doing an
album with eight and hit Boy in this. It's not
talking about that. We in the scheduling and putting it

(01:23:50):
together phase right now, because I know how eight works
and I know how hit Boy works.

Speaker 2 (01:23:55):
He I hope ain't know he got eightything he needed
from me. Oh you already? No, we official?

Speaker 3 (01:24:02):
Yeah right, you know what I'm saying, Lynx, Man, shoot,
man gonna. I don't know how active you are in
your social media, bro, because like I said, when Soren
hit me up, I said, he said, Man, do y'all
want to interview Lynx? I said, Bro, I said, our
flies attracted the shit. I said, Man, I've been trying
to get in touch with that dude for five years. Man,

(01:24:23):
I said, hell yeah, good looking man. So I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
You definitely man, one of the dopest artists, not just
of our generation, but now twenty years from now whatever. Man,
you are one on one man, and I salute you, brother.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
I flut y'all, Man, thank you guys for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:24:40):
All right, Lynch, Yes, for sure, Man, gonna connect and
that's it, man, you know that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:24:45):
We go close out Man another episode another volume of
Against the Chronicles podcast. Man, make sure you like, subscribe,
leave a rating, a comment, and all that Man for
my Apple podcast users. Man gonna leave us a like
on this episode Man and drop a comment.

Speaker 1 (01:25:00):
We out here, jail

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