Derrick Grace Talks Staying Strapped

On this EP we sit down with the homie best selling Author, Entrepreneur Derrick Grace to talk about staying strapped in a mad world and why you need to go cop his family bible to survive all the BS going on. 
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But I'm holding down for him. But it's better for
me because tonight, Man, I got one of my guys
on here, man that has a wealth of information and
knowledge about some everything. That's why his instagram is probably
one of my favorite instagrams. Man. He's a self published author, entrepreneur,

(01:47):
and just you know, all around one of the just
one of the smartest people I've seen online and anywhere else.
You know what I'm saying. He's founder of the Unlearned
and Relearned Movement Academy, the Homeboy Derek Grace. What's happening? Brother?

Speaker 3 (02:00):
Thank you, ro I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Oh man, I'm glad to get you on. We've been
talking about doing something for a minute. Man, I'm glad
we finally was able to make it. Crack man. The
first thing I gotta ask you, man, is how does
one become Derek Grace?

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Bro, that's a great question. Bro, I ain't gonna lie.
I'm gonna give all the credit to my mom and
my pops. They were My mama was very supportive. My
mama was very ain'tal about reading articulation and just being
privy to what I'm talking about, So as I evolved,

(02:40):
it just made me want to She was just one
of the people. Bro. She just didn't allow like loose
statements and things that nature. So you, in a sense
you had to like be what you say you was
and say what you're gonna be. And then my pops
more so taught me like the business side of things,
which when it did start to bubble social media wise,
like the game that he gave me was pivotal and
helping me to actually monetize what my mama taught me

(03:03):
how to do to begin with. So I ain't gonna
live it was. It was like the perfect balance, perfect balance.
I'm super grateful for them because I when I'm when
I'm with my peers, or politics, and with my peers,
I just really understand how game changing it is to
have a hands on mom and dad. Granted they got
divorced when I was one. That was one thing I
really yearned for as a child, but outside of that,

(03:23):
they still did their thing, so everything worked out perfectly.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
And that's dope, man. You know, I think it's sometimes
under it's underrated and not talked about enough. The power
of having the two parent household.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
It is bro and I'm not gonna lie I didn't.
I can't honestly say I didn't. I didn't value that
as much as I should, maybe until like the last
year or so, because I have ten children with five
different moms, so I am absolutely like a product of
my environment when it comes to I ain't gonna I
just saw my pops navigated at a high level he

(04:00):
to beat, so I felt like it ain't that bad.
But I ain't gonna lie. It does make a huge difference.
So that's something I even though I'm not necessarily in
all the I can't be in each home at the
same time, but I do my best to spread myself
as then as possible to be well.

Speaker 1 (04:13):
You know, it's not always possible, man, for two people
to be together, right, but you still can't have two
people involved with the kids life. You feel what I'm saying.
That's why you have to be on the same page
with the mama. You know, it just makes hard. That's
why I telways tell my sons, man, y'all be careful.
We y'all have kids with.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Men, bro, that's a fact.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
You careful. We've got kids here because I've had You know,
I got some friends to where it worked out good
for him, you know the way they you know, they
they didn't exactly it may not have worked out with
their child's mother, but they got good relationship with him.
And I got some people. Man, it's a disaster. Man.
I got one homeboy man his wifet like she want
to charge him to see his daughter, right right.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Trust me, I've I ain't gonna say I've experienced it.
For the most part. I got to health their relationship
with them. But I have had some tough times where
I had the lawyer up and play that game and
go to court and fight and go through all that nonsense.
So I know exactly how to go.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Well. One thing you can't say about I bet you
all them girls would know how to fight and take care
of themselfs.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Oh man, that's that's a prerequisite. They gotta i mean,
for lack of better terms, they gotta know how to kill.
That's that's just top of my list. Like you gotta
know how to defend yourself lethal and non lethal.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, that's real and more than likely it's gonna be
lethal nowadays, because these people are coming with barbaric contentions. Man,
the world, this is getting real, MANI out there right now.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Man, Man, I literally just seen a video before me
and you hopped on and saying that a medical examiner
had removed the man's genitals and they caught them with
it in their mouth. And I'm like, these these people
are just losing their minds in twenty twenty five. Like it's, yeah,
a different type of crazy going on right now.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
Yeah, it's a different it's a real different type of crazy.
And the one thing I'm say, in especially in the
black community, manage these kids. Man. They got they just
it's reckless, abandoned now man, no regard for what's right
or whatever. And on top of that, they're not covering
up their face and they putting this stuff out there
like they want the world. You know, we just whooked
on this dude's ass. We want the whole world to

(06:17):
know about it. I think these kids just chasing penitentiary.
They're doing rocks in the penitentiary. Man.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
I said that in a video earlier. I'm like, Okay,
Like when we was kids, you know, listening to our uncles,
our elders, they would say things like, man, you gotta
watch out for them cameras that this new generation, like
where is the camera? Get the camera now?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Yeah, social currency is all about social currency now.

Speaker 1 (06:43):
And you're a big proponent of self defense and knowing
how to take care of yourself. But you also you know,
you spend a lot of wisdom. That's why I love
when you break down the videos and what they're doing
wrong and what could you know the consequences of those
actions could be. You must have had some hill of
personal experiences, man.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
I did, so I've had them on both ends, which
I'm grateful for. So I was a N one one
dispatcher for five years from no. Four years from eighteen
to twenty two. My pop says, yeah, my pop says,
retired secret service. And I was a badass kid.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So you retired secret service.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Yeah, yep. So from picking up the phone and saying
now on one with short emergency to shooting somebody myself
to having my own run ends where I used my gun.
I mean nothing I'm proud of, but I've shot two
people in my lifetime. Uh, And to being just head
first and the street shit and just making poor choices.
So I've been able to see it up close and

(07:44):
personal on the receiving end and the other end.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
So we could talk about the two individuals who could
cut those bullets.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Oh, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
But what happened the first time you shot two people
to the once? Two people at once? Yeah? Two people
that okay, people want whatever?

Speaker 3 (08:03):
In short? Uh, it was. It was on my birthday,
so shooting somebody was the last thing on my mind.
I don't really know anybody. I always tell people that, like,
trust me, that wasn't my intent. I don't know anybody
like yeah, man, that just made twenty nine. I want
to kill somebody. So that wasn't my intent at all.
But I went to pick up my lady at that time,

(08:24):
and her mom, well she's happened to be the mother
of my children. At this point, we went because at
that point we didn't have any children. We went on
to have five children after that, which makes our family
dynamic even more interest in these days. But so I
go to go pick her up. I hate driving, though,
so when I pull up to the crib, I automatically

(08:45):
jump in the passengers. See, that's what that was just
my thing with her. She drive me everywhere because I
just hate being behind the wheel. And Bro, I learned
a lot of lessons that night, but one of the
main ones was just like the power of the tongue,
because like, literally before it happened, I'm on the phone
with my cousin and I was just like, Cousin, these
niggas gonna get my timing wrong one day and I'm
being to kill somebody. He's like who, And I'm like, Bro,
every time I come around here, like these motherfuckers just

(09:07):
be weird when I pull up and when I'm saying,
motherfucker's is it okay to speak freely?

Speaker 1 (09:13):
Yeah? Yeah, you speak for that.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
So I'm referring to like I've known her since I
was ten. We've been rocking that long. I'm thirty five now,
her youngest well, her oldest brother, but he's the youngest
of the brothers. Him and I were best friends. That's
how I got introduced to her anyway. But the other brothers,
some of them, they just give me weird energy every
time I come around. Oh, her mom would especially so

(09:35):
as I pull up mom and brother, Mom and mom
and her oldest brother are arguing in the doorway, the
brother drunk or whatever. She she going through it with
him and bro. I just happened to pull up at
the wrong time, and like her attention turns to me
and like I ain't I ain't on no smoke, like
just being genuine, I'm here to pick up your daughter.

(09:56):
We finna have a ball tonight. It's my birthday. Like
I don't want no problem.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Yeah yeah, Mama stormed down the driveway and I have
my daughter in the back seat, and I'm just one
of them people, especially when I got my kids and
me like I'm on high alert and I don't play,
Like just don't play when the kids around here.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Mind you.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I've known this woman since I was ten, but she
come to the door and she's like, yeah, I'm sick
of your ass too. All y'all need to leave. So
she basically I'm now inherent in smoke that she got
for her children. She she she having a mama moment,
and I get that Mama's get pissed and they go
cussing out all the kids and how y'all grown asks
need to get out of my house. Blah blah blah.
Ain't got nothing to do with me. But now I'm

(10:35):
getting the brunt, the brunt of the conversation. So I'm
still not serving on that like words of words. And
I know how mama. I know like a like I said,
I noticed since I was ten, I know the temperament.
I know she'd be on bullshit. So uh, the drunk
brother that she toussing out, he didn't come out of
the house, and he's like, what's up? Man Like, he
don't have no idea what's going on. He just he
just run down the driveway and he like what he said, mam,

(10:57):
And she like, she like, oh, he need to go,
you need to go. She's still like team her. She
pussing everybody out. So man, before I knew it, she
opened my driver door and again I'm in the patching's
seat and I called her by her nickname. I'm like, look,
please don't come playing. And I got Dereka in the
car and Bro, I never forget, Like she looked back

(11:17):
at Dereka in the back seat and like sucked her
teeth on, basically like I don't give a fuck. Yeah
she's one.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Hey, but she drunk too.

Speaker 3 (11:30):
No, No, she won't drunk. She don't drink that I
know if I just know, I know the sun pissy drunk.
Like he tripping, so.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Just on bullshit from the exact.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
So he come to the passenger door and like, I
got I got a great deal of patience for mama.
That's the elder and that's her mama. I'm not tripping,
but grown ass man, I ain't playing with at all.
And I just literally said like, hey, Dereka in the
back seat, and Bro, I never forget. Like it was
like the most slow motion but fastest thing ever happened.

(11:58):
Bro came to the passage door and I was like, Bro,
if you open the door, I'm gonna kill you because
the window was slightly cracked. And he said some more
cool movie shit like I done seen everything except blah
blah blah, and he opened that motherfucker anyway, Bro, And
before he could reach his hand in there, I just swung.
I swung my body to the left towards the driver's
seat holster. I remember had a glock twenty seven at night,

(12:21):
because the police never gave it back to me. It
was in the holster. But the way the host said up,
if you push it down in a plot pressure, it widens,
So you just snatched the gun right out. I just
in one motion snatched it out, start firing out the
he swung, he did swing, but he didn't even get
to connect. I started firing out the passenger door. And
this was the most unfortunate part of the whole story.

(12:43):
Mom being the mom runs in the way, and she
threw her hand up. I don't know why, like as
if a hand gonna stop a bullet, like she.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Used to kick the bullet man. She might have thought
she was a super woman in summing.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Nah, she ended up losing her finger. Her finger got
shot out, and he got shot in the chest.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
So she know she went paning for them.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Now she found Yeah, she found out that night. And
it was even crazy after the fact. Is my my
adrenaline pumping? I men fight a flight, And then I
know I knew her adrenaline was home because after I
shot her, I jump out and I draw down and
she started walking towards me like literally her finger is off,
like it's her ring, the thing literally hanging on by

(13:24):
a string. And she walking towards me, looking like a zombie.
And I was like, I'm looking at her, and I'm like, okay,
this motherlefucker really only she done got shot and she
she's still pulling up on me, like give me some more,
and like, bro, it was crazy. She just stopped dead
in her tracks and was like, get in the house,
get in the house. And then they just they shot
up the drawway. They ran in the house. The brother,

(13:44):
the same brother, he come back out mine. You know.
The whole time, I ain't even get to tell my
would be in the future, baby mama on my side.
This shit happened so fast. I don't even get a
text her like hey, come on, let's go.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
So she's still in the house doing the whole time, stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
Going on, getting ready the whole time. I don't shot
her people's and she she in the house doing not
doing makeup, but you know, doing with girls.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
So man, I bet y'all and you y'all got five
kids together.

Speaker 3 (14:12):
Yeah, we went on to have five children after that.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Christmas time. Make y'all. Christmas time with y'all be many
as hell.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
No, man, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. That's one of
the main things that I do. I'm not mad at
me for standing in this situation because, like like I said,
when it comes to my children, I'm just not playing.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
But you can't play because you don't know what nobody's intentions.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
He is, man, absolutely, and I made it clear. I'm
like Derek back then, and just the look she gave
me was just like, I don't give a fuck, and
I'm just like, all right, well you don't give a fuck.
You know, I don't give it and I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Back then, I was wild.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I was.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
I hate to admit this, bro, But like I remember thinking,
I remember having times back then where I would ponder
on what it's like to kill somebody, and I now
that I couldn't wait, but I in a sense I
couldn't wait to show like what I was made of. Like, man,
the first time a motherfucker play with me, I'm a
fire ass up. And that was that wasn't the first time.

(15:09):
It was some other people that have but it didn't
I ain't had to shoot them. When I updated or
I went to they stood down, and I'm not a
bully whatsoever. Like if they don't want no problem, I'm
cool too, because I really don't want that neither. But yeah, man,
I got out of there, and because I wasn't no
one dispatcher, and based on the things that my pops
taught me, I knew exactly what to do. So I
made the call. Police ended up coming to pull me

(15:32):
and my daughter out the car, put me in cuffs,
went through the whole situation, and then when my pops arrived, Bro,
that was one of the biggest examples I ever seen
of nepotism. I had never seen a shooting handle in
that manner of my life, but I knew that no lie.
Like after that, I started teaching people heavily about nepotism
because I realized then, like a lot of this shit

(15:53):
truly is about who you know and the way in
which they Yeah, man, the way in which they handled
me and they treated me. After that, I was like, Okay,
we definitely got us an ace in the whole You
would have thought I got shot. They treated me like
I was hurt.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Let me ask you this, did you have the tattoos
and stuff on your face at that time.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah I did. I didn't have as many, but yeah
I had a couple of tattoos on.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
You still had them. So the police suit because, like, man,
usually when they see somebody that like you were me,
it's automatic, man, especially if I don't have my glasses on.
Man and I'm dressing a certain way, I'm just assumed
like he did.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
It, not gonna lie. They treated me like shit when
they first got there, like the way they got me out.
They had me at gunpoint. I remember the dude saying
because it was a little scary. I remember the dude
saying like don't. He was like, don't look at me,
don't turn around, put your hands on your head, excuse me,
interlock your fingers and take twelve steps back. And bro,
I'm not even thinking. My adrenaline excuse me, my adrenaline

(16:51):
on tin, like my stomach cramping. I ain't never felt
cramped like that in my life. My adrenaline was on tin.
Like I got shot. So I'm taking the steps backwards
and I shot my basketball shorts go to falling down
and I reached and lifted and he was like, hey,
if you reach for them shorts again, I'm gonna kill you,
and I'm like, I'm tripping. What the fuck? I was like, yeah,
you're right, I'm letting the fuckers fall down. I reach again,

(17:12):
but I'm my mind is still gone based on the
shoot and I just had literally like five minutes ago.
But anyway, they threw me in the car way. He
searched me. I never forget to search. I'm like, bro,
you comfortable touching it? Man like that? And he was like,
you just fucking shot somebody. I got a shirt and
searched you the right way. He did that, But like
I said, with my Pops called up, the conversation completely changed,

(17:32):
like to the point where I remember him. One of
the resting officers came with an iPod and he was
just like, hey, you know, the best thing I got
in here is Meek Mill or eminem which one you
want to listen to? And I knew them.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Bro.

Speaker 3 (17:44):
I was like, okay, this, yeah, yeah, this is Pops.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Wn't it came? If you didn't have your Pops, man,
you probably Billy Club and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
And still case, you know, I was gonna say that
they definitely probably I'm me in my pops telling me
he was like, now, they definitely, they definitely was gonna
try to charge you with aggravated as saw he named
like three of the things. But I definitely would have
got hit with some charges and then whether it got
clear self defense or not, I would have had to
go to court and beat them. But based on who
my family is on my part sport up. It was
almost like a closed case off the rip.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
Now, I see you are a big advocate man of
people knowing how to use their weapons.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
Absolutely, what would.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
You recommend for the normal household out there? What kind
of guns? Because I you know, I own firearms. I
got eight K forty seven.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
That's my favorite, right, Yeah, I got it.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
It is Yeah, it's a good rifle. I got a
VR eighty, I got an AR fifteen, I got I
got some weapons you know in my house because I think,
you know, especially in this day and time were in,
I think you have to have your house protected. You
have to be in some kind of protection. Man. People
out there is crazy.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Absolutely, no man I recommend because I tell you all
the time, just based on what they see see me
doing social media, people think you need an arsenal and
I'll be having around them like a lot of that
is from a collector's item standspoint. But if she get real,
you hand me a nonmili. That's my favorite. All them
desert eagles. I got them. They cool, They're good for showmanship,

(19:17):
they're good for value. But I'm not going into no
damn shootout with no fifty college just ain't a good idea.
But personally, Bro, I say, every household need a shotgun,
an ar or an ak and a handgun, and I
feel like those three will definitely get the motherfucker off
your porch or up out your house if they got
an issue.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Now, I'm gonna kind of get deep with you a
little bit, man, because I don't want to like identify
you as like a survivalist. But all the stuff you
talk about, man, is necessary, like skills not think sometimes, man,
especially nowadays, I think everybody's stuck on stupid Man. I'm like,
y'all not looking at what going on around us, y'all

(20:03):
not paying attention like this stuff. Man. Everything is kind
of hanging by a thread right now.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Bro, it is, it really is, bro, Man, And I
with you from the jobs to the violence. Like I
think people don't realize we like one big event or
one small event away from this ship being totally flip flopped,
and they're gonna have to fight for their lives, their freedom.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
They telling you, Bro, I'm telling you. Like my wife,
she called me that she was upset. She said, man,
you know they about the the guy that flowed, George Floyd.
They're about to love them. I said, they ain't, no
way that's gonna happen. I said, you listening to just
that's like a TikTok rumor or something like that. You
know you can't listen to that. But I did say,

(20:45):
if something like that was happening, man, that might be
the match right there.

Speaker 3 (20:49):
You know they you know they're gonna set this one off.
They do that for sure, it's gonna be rise, it's
gonna be all type of stuff taking place.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
It's gonna be crazy. Man. But I look at l A.
I was at New Mexico State when the ride happened,
out here doing the Ridney King Verdict, right, and I
remember being up in New Mexico, me and my wife
actually looking like, damn man, they really caring, you know,
they really cheering the city up. How close you think
we are to something like that?

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (21:21):
Personally, I literally was just having this conversation with people
in my community. I think we're uh bro when you
intertwine AI, the economy, the violence, and that Trump got
the power just to tweet something and he could turn
countries upside down. I ain't gonna lie. I mean, I

(21:41):
hope it don't take place, because I know a lot
of my loved ones are absolutely unprepared. But like I said,
I don't even think it's a big event. I think
we're a small event away. I don't foresee Purson just
being in movies. I think ship like that at some
point it's gonna be a real thing. I think I
think everything Bro saying about giving the death penalty to

(22:03):
drug dealers and sending people to El Salvador and this
and that. I think he means every word that he's saying.
And I do think that at some point we're gonna
have a cyber security attack that is gonna make people
feel more unsafe than they ever have in this country.
I think a lot of people are sold on the
facade that we really are super safe and we're not. Yeah,

(22:25):
it's people out there that know how to get into
everything we're doing, and they can turn it upside down
there anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
I'm gonna tell you about a couple of different scenarios.
Right my homeboy he got a son. You know, I
ain't gonna see home whales whatever, but his son was
into that you know that credit card you know whatever stuff. Man.
And these dudes got so much money. Man, They set
up like they go downtown and get like the most

(22:51):
expensive loft they can find, right, and they going there.
They may be in there for six months and got
like you going there ain't nothing but computers in their
computers and guns. Ye I ain't nomber but computers and
sticks in their mops. Right. And he was just telling me, man,
the level of proficiency in which these kids moved. Man,
it's like you'd be like, man, I can't believe this

(23:12):
because they able to getting everything. Man. Then they'll hold
people's businesses, hosted you and all kinds of stuff, you know, like, hey,
you know, shoot us one hundred thousand dollars of this,
or this gonna happen. Some people are staying bro.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Right, I peaped it. It was in twenty twenty four,
late twenty twenty four. I don't know if you remember
when it's happened. Some type of blackout happened, and I
remember the healing because I was trying to check into
a hilling. The healting would not work. Phones had some
phones went I can't remember what. I know some airlines
was affected. I remember phone companies was affected. It was

(23:47):
an overnight thing. I remember by morning they was trying
to sort it out and figure it out.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
But I knew then.

Speaker 3 (23:51):
I'm like, all right, this shit ain't super safe. People,
credit card information ain't safe. Socials ain't safe. Ain't shit safe.
Somebody can get it right.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
Ain't man. We would to be like our grandmama and
there was you know, grandparents just keep their money at
the crib and the mattress. I do not trust that, man,
I do not. I stayed trying to figure out a
way not to keep my money in the you know,
just the traditional system, man. Because and I don't think
people would pay attention, right because I believe you heard
of predictive programming.

Speaker 3 (24:21):
Absolutely, yeah, So.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
I think it's a lot of that now, Like if
you look at stuff like Black Mirror, they talk about
all these different things, and they starting to slowly roll
out some of that stuff you know that they've been
talking about, right, because these stuff is already. This stuff
is already happening. People just need that genius to where
they just a mass and all this. They just got
access to stuff that we don't.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Absolutely, no, I agree with you. I know I haven't
watched Black Mirror that much, but I remember watching an
episode where they had like they was big on social status.
So if you got to pour rating from other people
in the community, you could no longer live in the
community and get access to certain food resources.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
And all that.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, the old China is there. China own that. China
already got like a social media and once you break
certain rules or the camera catch you jaywalking, you start
to lose value and credibility in certain communities and you
don't have access access to resources anymore based on you
the jaywalk. You can get tickets and like they're holding
you accountable for that, And I'm I'm not opposed to

(25:22):
believe in that. Shit gonna be in America any day now,
and yeah, we're gonna be chipped up and they're gonna
be like, hey, you ran the red light yesterday, don't
bring your ass around here to get nothing.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
Yeah, for real, social currencies are all times, it's the
most desired form of currency right now. Absolutely, you know
people wanted. I will always tell my partner glasses Man,
that I think if you offer the average kid Instagram
pigs Man with two million followers, man, and you know
we're getting ten thousand likes of Postman or a million dollars,

(25:54):
a lot of them kids don't say give me that Instagram.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Yeah, ye get me. And they ain't even.

Speaker 1 (26:01):
Gonna know how to monetize it. That's the cold part
of the party because they could go make some money
off of pace like that, but they're not to monetize it.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
It's that dopamin hit of likes and comments that just
that that two minute rush of when they dropped the
post and it's getting heavy traction. That just it do
something to them. They love it.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's the real thing too. People become addicted to that stuff. Man.
They got now and the world is sola teaches now
everybody's trying to sue motherfuckers and blaming them for some
ship that they did to theirselfs right, they got no man.
What they're telling people, if you were a loved one
was impacted and getting addicted to game, called out, we
can help you win money, you know, and it's like,
it's just crazy. Man. People got to really pay attention

(26:40):
to what's going on. Man, we being were being kind
of set up for the slaughter right now.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Man. No, I agree, Man, I knew it was real
when motherfuckers I had catching bodies in the real world
about their Instagram world like you could. I can ask
you and disrespect you on a social platform and you'll
come kill me in real life. That's that's they are.
By their Instagram handles. They'll kill you when they see
you in the streets.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Man, I'm gonna give you one better. I've seen fifty
and sixty year old men get on this motherfucking A
lot of they ass are bro a lout of situations,
places and things that they never experienced that this's nowhere.
They're true. And the thing about it, man, is that
it'll be a legion to people are found with these
people that believe them.

Speaker 3 (27:23):
No, I'm I'm man, I agree.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
I got some ties out ties out in the West Coast,
and uh the dudes I knew or no, I just
never seen that they never embodied this shit I see
on YouTube and a social and I'm like, these mother
buys be my daddy. Age I had cutting up, but
his internet shit they say and do anything for them
clicks and them like, man.

Speaker 1 (27:46):
I'm gonna tell you something. Man with the ogs you
see acting the food bro A lot of them dudes
been in prison most of their life, don't have educations. Man,
can't go get a job. They really don't have nothing
else to offer nobody, so they see this as a
quick come up. Like I tell people, and they wonder
why YouTube is kind of like going down, you know
on those different platforms, because there's too many people on there.

(28:07):
Everybody don't figure it out. I can make a few dollars.
Nobody wants to be the consumer. No where. Everybody It's
like it's like the time at the time. I remember
when people were selling rocks in the eighties, right, everybody
started selling rocks. After a while, you look up, it
was every even the Squares dude, because he was like,
I can get some quick money to go get some Jordans,

(28:28):
you feel me. It was, you know, very degrees a hustle.
But you had everybody out there. That's what this zeel
is now. Man, you got a whole bunch of old dudes,
man who don't have no kind of life skills. Man,
They figured they could make some money. And they don't
have no real talent, right, they don't really have a talent, right,
But what they gonna do. They're gonna go out and
stir a whole bunch of shit, you know, the ship

(28:49):
up and talk crazy and tail lines, and you know,
just do their thing because they can get a couple,
they get a few dollars. You gotta remember, man, Donald
Trump is in office, man, and you can't go get
check no more. Right them days, people want to live
off the fact of lands over dog. Ain't nobody having that.
I feel child.

Speaker 3 (29:11):
I peep that often, especially with Because I'm not gonna lie.
I've been fascinated with LA since I was a little kid.
Like LA has played a vital role in my gun collection.
I ain't gonna lie. I just feel like people from
the South, like we was fascinated with y'all world here
because most of us had never made it there. So
we saw the movies, We saw the colors. The ship

(29:32):
just looks so cool. And then to grow up and
then I'll be seeing them motherfuckers on the end. I
just be like, bro, y'all know, y'all to them old
for this ship man up.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
And you know what's so cold? I tell you this.
Them clowns you see online nowhere near the representation of what.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Really is out here already already, you.

Speaker 1 (29:50):
Know, because l A man is a l A is
a deceptively dangerous place.

Speaker 3 (29:56):
Absolutely, it's nice.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
I've been out here longer than half. I'm originally from
the Midwest, right, I came out here in the eighties. Okay,
but it was more dangerous back then because it was
a lot more active. But now it's still dangerous, man.
And what makes it even kind of more dangerous now
is before you was able to identify the threat, like
people will be flamed up. They have you know, they

(30:18):
like they had a uniform on. Now right now, man,
you can have a dude that got some skinny jeans on,
have his hair dye. He could look metro sex was hell,
but he'll pop the shit out your ass. That would
make it out. And he made a crypt that got
on all rigs. You know what I'm saying. Yep, And
it's like like you just don't know, brother, like you be. Look,

(30:39):
look the most feminine looking dude in the world, and
he'll tear that ass up if you you know, come
from and come over that cabin.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Yeah, I think go ahead. No, I was just gonna say,
I know exactly what you mean. I've definitely seen it
where I was out there last time I was out
there with September. But anytime I might move on my
head on the squibble, but I know it exactly what
you mean. You just gotta I mean, even in even outskirts,
you gotta be on points, especially when they know you're

(31:07):
a foreigner, you're not from Runner. They'll definitely get on
your ass just to get on your ass, oh for sure.

Speaker 1 (31:11):
And it's some votures out here too. Man, it's some
votures out here. And you know it ain't all it
ain't all doom and doom, but you have to move
a certain way out here. Like I tell people, I
think people should be able to wear what they want
to wear. But don't go to the hood with a
bunch of chewery, right right, that's like dangling the stake
in front of some pit bulls. It's just I'm not

(31:33):
saying this right, but it's more than likely you go
find yourself in a bad situation.

Speaker 3 (31:37):
And I agree, you know that's.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Pretty much anywhere. If I had jewry. I couldn't go
to certain parts of Miami like that.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
No. I mean, I've told my peers on numerous occasions.
I feel like, you know, everywhere I go, I move
with respect. I moved with honor. And it's okay to
like understand the terrain you want and know how to
navigate it because I'll be doing some super egotistical motherfuckers.
I ain't got no security, no nothing. I'm going everywhere

(32:05):
with the jury.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
I'm like video the next day.

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, they gonna get it. Like man, it's places in
my hometown. I go, and I'm taking that ship off
like I don't. I don't need the attention and I
don't need my ego stroke that bad when I pull
up in here that I need to come with all
these big ass chains on just so I can be
a victim to night.

Speaker 1 (32:25):
Yeah, because it's gonna be bad. And I never understood
the fascination people have got money wanting to come to
the damn hood anyway. That's always been the silliest shit
ever to me.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Nah, it's funny. I was just making a video about
that the other day by some young men out in
New York who had that similar mindset but I don't
think they really be realizing until they realize it. And
there in that situation, like that ship is a It
is a flag for the wolves, for the women that
got bad intent, for the I R s, for the government,
for everybody. It's just And then too, it's culturally we

(32:57):
have this ego thing where we we're botto because we
go to the worst areas with all the flashy shit
on and make it out of their live like, oh no,
that's why I said with the video is we just
got to find some better shit to die about, because
mothers be ready to die by nothing, yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
About anything, man, just you know, And it's just fascinated
man to put all xury on. And then when something happened,
everybody like, oh it shouldn't happen. He shouldn't have his
ass over here, right? Why why would he come up?
Because I'm gonna tell you right now, man, I go,
I'm going to the steak I'm going the most expensive
steakhouse I can. I'm trying to do. I'm not trying

(33:33):
to go to ship out escape from I work too
hard to stick. Why do I want to go back?
You feel what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 (33:39):
And then like one of the most unfortunate things, especially
with people with statuses. A lot of times they aren't
the ones that's gonna pull the trigger and save their
own ass. It's gonna be the homie. So now you
don't put the homie in the mix. And he ain't
got no jury, he ain't got your means, all your resources.
Now he got to fight the case or he gotta
hope he don't die, because his job is to make

(33:59):
sure you get back home safe. And that's just because
you wanted to hang out with the Woolves with all
your jury.

Speaker 1 (34:04):
That's what I'm saying. Man, I just don't that. I
don't think it's worth it, man. And I'm unfortunately in
the state. Man, California got probably the worst gun laws
in the country. Man. You know, I would say probably
second in New York, right right right, New York and
California got the worst gun laws ever. And I tell

(34:26):
you like this, man, this is where I'm at with
that I have guns, and I know, you know, you
got to have a concealed carry. I'm in the process
getting my concealed carry right now. But even if I
didn't have a concealed carry, I was still carry my
pistol with me. I think that that's the time we
in right now.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Man, I'm in agreeance. The way that we would do
it when we moved through LA is because we got this,
we got great private security. So the way we would
do it is when we travel to places like LA
and New York, we would we would basically presented for
the sake of security. So if we were to inherit
law enforcement, they would have to respect it based on

(35:04):
the security credentials and not just or some wild niggas
from Florida that came up here with guns anyway, So no, man,
trust me, I'm with you. I refuse to go there
without a gun. But I know, because I'm from way
south Florida, I gotta move a certain way and make
sure we present certain credentials.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, and I'm always cautious, man, And believe me, believe
it or not. Man, Like I was telling somebody one day,
my last result is to shoot like I'm just not
looking like if somebody give me the finger, I'm not
gonna pull. I'm not gonna go dump them out. You
know what I'm saying. It's just whatever. If anything, I'm
gonna move a little bit more cautious, right, and I
got the thing with me, you know, but I refuse

(35:42):
to be a victim. I saw this young man. It
was just getting beat on. Man. His head was busted
up and man, these kids just whooping his ass. I
saw it on your channel. As a matter of fact,
they was beaten. Man. I want to tell you, yep,
when I take they beat behinds ketchup about this boy. Man,
they whooped his ass. I mean that where every speed
not in the world on this head.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
They made a run down the street naked, and I
told my wife, I said, see that wouldn't be me
right there. They had to kill me out there because
I for sure shot some ship up.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
And I said the same thing, like I saw one
part they like literally forced bro head under the like
damn the under the car and then just was stumping
on his neck and back. And I was just like,
I had to put one of you niggas down, y'all. Barbari, y'all,
just y'all want to strip a nigga of his manhood,
I'm definitely have to kill one of you.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
They would have for sure had to kill me, man,
because I believe like this bro, I'm like we ever
pull out for nothing, stupid man. But if my life
in danger, especially with bestally, with my wife and my shoes,
my wife and my daughter. Man, this is my two,
my most precious assets right there, I'm not gonna let
no harm.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
Come to them, right absolutely, and.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'm gonna do what I have to. I'm I'm gonna
do what I have to, like any you know, any
real man will to protect this house. So what do
you say, man, Like, I know you are big all
your kids at homeschool, right yep, yep. Let me ask
you this, man, do you think the public school system

(37:13):
does more harm than good? Uh?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, I definitely feel like I can do more harm
than good, for sure, one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
I got some theories. I want to hear your take
on it them.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Oh, I mean, well, one, I feel like the children
aren't truly fit, especially physically and mentally. I don't feel
like they're truly physically and mentally protected there and not
taking nothing away from the teachers in totality because I
can't generalize them all. I know some dope ass teachers
that really care about their jobs, but just based on
the hierarchy of the system, A lot of those teachers

(37:47):
can't even give what they want to give from a
genuine place anyway, so it still puts them out a handicap,
and it still puts us in. For me, it's just
it's a repetitive, problematic system. We only been going to
their schools for fifty sixty years at this point and
tapping out with the same results. So I just absolutely
feel like at some point we got to wake up
cultureland and be like, listen, that shit didn't work for
my grandma, it didn't work for my mama, and I'm

(38:09):
headed for the same outcome. I'm gonna also say, diet wise,
I feel like the shit that they feeding the children
is absolutely I'm not gonna feed them, from education to
the diet to the fact that I feel like they
don't really hone in on the children's actual skill sets
and individual talents. To me, it's just more so creating
a new pool of workers and pushing them out into

(38:30):
the world. Only scary now is because the ai the
worker is not even safe no more. Like I know
hell of people with degrees that can't go get a
job now to even pay back the debt they went
in for the degree, and then too, I wrote about
this many years ago in the curriculum I wrote called
the post Trump Pact. But man, Trump been saying for
years he's into passion work, and I think a lot

(38:51):
of people just didn't pick it up. Broke been saying
for like ten years he believed people should only work
at what they're passionate at ak. Bro is not a
huge proponent of school. He's not a huge proponent of
going to get a job. So I feel like that
system flat out either prepares us to fail or prepares
us to be damn near robots when we get out
of there.

Speaker 1 (39:11):
It prepares people to fail, bro. And I'm going to
tell you, and this is where I'm at on there.
And both of my all of my kids went to
you know, my two of my kids went to public
school and one of my kids went to a private school. Right,
this is what I think about that. I think it's
all about money, man. I don't think the people in
there are invested in really teaching your you know, you

(39:32):
may have some teachers. I'm not talking about the teachers.
The teachers per say they're limited into what they can do,
they're limited by their budget, right, But I'm talking about
the people that run that business. And it is a business, right.
They don't want to spend no money, especially in our community. Right,
Let's look at our community, man, you're pretty much you

(39:53):
pretty much there because I think they get like one
hundred and fifty two hundred dollars a day per kid, right,
that's all. It is a business, bro, That's why they
be so hard on you know. That's why they have
a whole truancy office. Don't miss the money.

Speaker 3 (40:10):
That's why tennants is such a big deal because they
need that bad. That's why diagnosed in children with certain
things and oh they need they need a guidance counselor
X y Z is just to run the bag up
and get yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:22):
And that's what they do. Man. Do you know how
many genius level kids man in the neighborhood get diagnosed
with things like learning get diagnosed with learning disabilities and
all kinds of other things just because they haven't been
taught properly. And then they get somebody that's really interested
in teaching them and cultivate them when they find out, Man,
he one of the most brilliant kids in school, you know.

(40:44):
But it's because nobody cares. Man. In our community, man,
we always getting hit with the monkey rins. Bro right,
you always getting here with the monkey rinks. And I
believe that. I believe all kids, especially in our community,
should be homeschool though, and even if you wanted to
send them to school so they can have a social interaction,
I think, man, from at least Kennygarten through the eighth grade,

(41:05):
you should be on school, man.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
And that's where I'm at, Like me and not all
of them, but me and one of the mothers, one
of I got five moms, Me and one of the moms,
we constantly bump heads on that because I'm telling I'm like, listen,
I'm cool with them practicing duality and at some point
going but they gotta be ready. This ship not the same.
Bullying is not the same. Violence is not the same.

(41:27):
These motherfuckers man, Bron't know if you've just seen the
video it's going viral today, Spanish dude banging the black
girl head on the desk and knocked her out. Now
granted she was like grabbing on him, but i'magine.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
I saw that in the classroom, right, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Yeah, I'm actually going to post it. But ship like that,
like we're just in a different eras.

Speaker 1 (41:49):
Different in a different time, man.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
The social pressure, the drugs, like your your tenth grady
fucking around to get a whole of fence and no
trying some new ship with the friends, and now you
ain't got a tenth grader no more. It's just a
lot of shit going on, so you can't even experiment.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Your child can afford the.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
Experiment now here.

Speaker 1 (42:06):
We experimented right now, me too.

Speaker 3 (42:08):
I remember trying ecstasy. I remember I remember being able
to smoke weed and not having to wear about dying
after you smoke the shit. But we in the arawhell, motherfucker,
sprinkle fit doll on that that's gonna be your one,
your first and last hit. You ain't getting back up, man.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
I was telling one of my friends that was tripping.
He found out his daughter smoked weed, right, and I
had to kind of telling my saif because his daughter
is nineteen right, nineteen years old about to be twenty
this summer round. I said, Bro, that's not the worst thing.
It's so many other things that she could be doing
right now. I said, as a matter of fact, she's
smoking weed. Bro, you should go get it.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
For no, Bro, I agree fully. I've had that conversation
numerous times with relatives women, even in my community. And
I asked him, like, would you rather cultivate a safe
space for your child to experiment with certain things at home?
Or would you rather would you rather be a drill
sergeant wards them to suppressing and know they're gonna go
out in the streets and try.

Speaker 1 (43:02):
To anyway, and they probably go do something to hurt
them one day. You hurt theyself one day. And I
don't know, I don't understand people like that. Man, It's
like a hypocrisy almost. I would definitely go get my
child something, you know, something that was good and safe
and tell them, hey, look, I don't want you smoking
this in my house. But if you feel the urge

(43:22):
and you got to go back in the back and
you know, do your thing, I would rather my kids
be safe, because I'm gonna tell you man. When I
turned eighteen, I was allowed to drink a beer if
I wanted to because my mom had a philosophy was like,
you holden up for them to ship you off to
the war. You can have you a beer if you
want to. Absolutely, you're a grown man. You know you can't,
you know. So I was able to kill me and

(43:43):
then I was able to do it. By me being
allowed to do it. It kind of took away some of
the mystiques. I wasn't tripping on thrun it no more.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
Look, I tell parents that, Like, that's one of the
things I teach parents with guns and educating and introducing
their children to guns. When you when you when you
insert the education, you remove them to seek and you
remove the mistakes. They know what they're doing and they
don't even be as typed about it. The like my
pops taught me how to use guns. It's no big deal.
You ain't got to pull your uncle gun out the closet.

(44:10):
I know what a gun looked like.

Speaker 1 (44:12):
Yeah, and you're not tripping no more. I just think, Man,
it's a whole bunch of stuff you on. Man, that's
really stuff that we need in our community. Like even
with the financial you know, with the you know, financial
advice that you give. Right in fact, I think that's
one of the biggest problems right now in our community, man,
is that we don't really understand how money works. Right.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
No, for sure, I agree.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
How do you how do you go about changing people's mindset?
Because I know you've got the whole community of people
that follow what you got going on.

Speaker 3 (44:46):
So for the most part, man, I think people got
to know that money is an actual tool. But unfortunately,
especially with Black culture, we've been taught about money from
a place of scarcity. So a lot of us are
under the premise that is running out. We gotta get
what we can, we gotta hold on to it. Like
I tell most people, like I'm I'm not even big

(45:06):
on saving, I'm big on flipping because I understand, like, like,
your money gotta work for you. Those are soldiers and
that bread gonna do more emotion than it is gonna
do it that week ass interest that the bank gonna
tack onto it month by month. So that's my biggest
thing I try to help people understand is that it's
a tool. It's not it's this ain't the last dollar

(45:27):
you're gonna get. And if you got some hustle and
some consistency about you, you're gonna find a way to
get another bag get it. It might not come every day,
but you're gonna find a way to get you another back.
So my biggest thing is just teaching people the importance
of going to get it and putting it back out
into the universe. And letting it work for you.

Speaker 1 (45:43):
Yeah, for sure. What's your favorite investment right now?

Speaker 3 (45:47):
I think my favorite one right now, and the past
has been real estate, it's been gold, it's been guns.
But I say my favorite one right now would be
I got some doomes, the bug out bags that I
got coming from China, as well as self defense kids.
So I think that's my most exciting investment right now.

(46:07):
I can't wait to get them motherfuckers in my hands
and start showing people like this shit get real. This
is how you're gonna step out your door and live
off that land and cultivate a safe space even if
your motherfucking house get taken over, because it's a purge
going on.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Guns and butter baby.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Absolutely, And that's a huge thing I tell people too
in the mat like the country ran out violence, you
ain't gonna never fall short with either investing in things
that you need once violence kicks off, or investing in
things that you need to inflict the violence. Like this
country is a murderous country. They love bullets, they love guns,
and they love shit that go boom.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Yep. When we're not paying attention to our community, makes
we too worried about what the baddies are doing, and
who got this going on with? You know, we always
in somebody else's business, but everybody else, the rest of
the world is getting prepared right right. So I'm gonna
tell you one thing, man, that I noticed, and you

(47:07):
probably gonna know what I'm talking about. I got hit
to this community online, man, where these people are pretty
much building guns, and they got they go meeting these places,
like these suburban places, bro, and they know how to
put AK forty sevens together. They getting the AR fifteen's,
but they buying these guns and they building them right yep.

(47:30):
They buying the parts, just getting them shit to their house,
getting them shipped to their house, right right over the internet,
the same internet that we own. They're not going in
the dark Web but now. But they order these parts
and they're putting guns together. And some of these people
got twenty five thirty guns they house, bro, and they
go to the desert and go shooting, and these guns
are all unmarked and it's not illegal.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
Now, I saw a documentary similar to that on Netflix
about the ghost guns. They buying the three D printers,
cooking up the parts in the crib, putting them together,
and I can't remember the city, but it's a city
in Florida. They be linking up and they go and
I remember like as they recording a documentary, the police
pull it up and then the police was just he

(48:09):
kept really, he was like, they are undocumented but legally
and ain't shit I can do about it. I can't
take them from them. That's they ship. So I don't
know if that's the same thing that you may be
referring to, but I know motherfucker's definitely building ghost guns.

Speaker 1 (48:23):
Oh yeah, that's that's what I am referring to. They're
messing with them three D guns. And they got like websites,
not man where you can go buy like they may
sell you upper to uper to a gun, then they
have a lower in another sex. You gotta bound something,
but it's up to you to put it together right right,
And I'm gonna tell you they are very much getting prepared.

(48:43):
I think, man, now, if we did have a war, man,
we probably lose. Bro. We wouldn't be prepared.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
No, Bro, I'm in agreeance. Unfortunately, I agree. I feel like,
just as you said, we be minding everybody business but
our and I feel like culturally we just we gravitate
to the bullshit we run from the real ship. And
when we do, when we do address to real ship,
more times than not, all we do is trauma ban motherfuckers.
Typically at coming up with no action plays or what

(49:11):
to do next, They're gonna trauma ban about it. And
I hate that our memory. It's so so, so many
skull because a whole fucking atrocity will take place tomorrow
and by Monday we're back dancing. You know, we're watching
motherfucker's fight. Oh yeah, we.

Speaker 1 (49:31):
Forget all about it, bro, And I'm gonna tell you
right now, man, Like you said, you got a survival bag.
What's the contents of the bag? Uh?

Speaker 3 (49:42):
I got a sample back here, I can go grad.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Yeah, let me see that. Oh you've got a real bag. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
This this is a sample version right here. But it
comes with uh all right. You got your your cutting knife,
you got your what is this one?

Speaker 1 (50:14):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (50:14):
You got your lanner, you got your adult poncho glasses,
twelve person tan gloves for the protected hands. You got
the shovel, you got the water filter system that come
in it. This is another knife and a hammer intertwined

(50:36):
still in the plastic. I ain't put it out. But
you got this right here. If you need to do
some building, of course, you got your first aid kid,
and it's just some more pouches in him. You got
guns or anything else you need to store, and then
there's just more more pieces of the first aid kid.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
So you said you had a tend there two.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Yeah, y'all got a twelve person in there. Person yep.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
So you said twelve people can fit in that ten?
You said one two, right, Yeah, that little bitty bag man.

Speaker 3 (51:10):
It's just the way it's the way they packaged it,
so they it's folded up at this point, but once
you unravel it, it kicks out. It's a seventy two
hour kid prepared for a long term survival. This product
is for emergency situations and does not replace your camping tent,
so it is a temporary ten. It's up to seventy

(51:31):
two hours, and your five meters military grade seven yard
three strand pair of courses mentioned. So, yeah, I ain't
gonna lie. I haven't even opened it because it's just
a sample bag. I ain't even opening and test it out.

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Yes, that's like, you know, that's all the stuff you
would need in an emergency. You need something way to
clean your water because we were not prepared, man. And
I thought about it one day. I started really kind
of get my own house prepared, man, because I remember
one time, man, and the electricity went off out of here, man,
and it was kind of like And luckily I live

(52:04):
in a good neighborhood, so I wouldn't worry. But I
told my wife, I said, if something bad happen, we're
not prepared. We don't have a generator, or food would
go bad. You know, we were just we don't have
a deep freezer full of stuff we were you know,
we wouldn't be able to stay here. Man. So I'm
getting myself ready now to where if I had to
stay in my house, I'm getting prepared now. I brought
the rocket being here in the year, a little bit

(52:25):
over a year if I needed to be.

Speaker 3 (52:27):
And that's what made me tighten up. I ain't even
see this knife, Uh, that's like, I said, that's a sample.
I hadn't even fully opened it yet. But I got
more knives flashlight conference. But that's what made me tighten up.
The last hurricane we had, I'm used to the power
getting knocked down' from Florida. When we have hurricanes, that's
gonna happen. But the power was knocked out for an

(52:47):
extended amount of time, and whatever other polls were affected,
it affected the phone line, so my phone wouldn't even work.
And then also that was a really bad one, so
the story does even show we had food shortages and all.
And I really that's what literally made me hit my
project manager and said, bro, I want to start selling
bug out bass because I realized in that moment, I'm like,

(53:09):
i'd be talking all that shit. I got two hundred guns. Then,
motherfuckers don't mean nothing if you cannot hunt at least
skaning you a little a rabbit or something and feed
you over. I literally have to go rob my neighbors
for groceries. That's the only thing I thought of, Like
what could all these guns do with me? Right now?
I was like, I can rob my neighbors for some groceries,

(53:30):
but once they run out, we all fucked. But yeah, man,
I learned my lesson then. That was one of the
most helpless moments I ever had. And just as a
man and as a father, I felt terrible having all
them little girls and I'm scrambling in my mind like Damn,
I'm a fij all to night. Like money didn't even
matter because I had money. It's just like nothing was working.

(53:51):
The stores were closed. The fucking stoplight's not even working.
So people getting their accidents right outside the neighborhood every day.
It was bad shit have like a movie.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
That's That's what I'm saying, man. And the average and
the average person is not prepared. They're not even thinking
because that's not nothing, and there's not nothing that you
can go up there. You see people running to the
grocery store at the last minute, right getting all this stuff.
It's like, man, you're not gonna be able to you know,
you need to have weeks of water right now? Months
of water? Your month supply of water, you know months,

(54:24):
you know eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve months. You feel
what I'm saying, you have to be able to. Do
you have a generator? Do you have gasoline? Do you
have you know, a little gaso lin stowed up so
you can at least, you know, turn electricity a few
times a day? Right? We not prepared, man, I'm gonna
tell you I think what we go see man, as

(54:44):
time goes on, I don't know if you're a religious person.
We go get into the family Bible in a minute, though,
But I think we coming to a place you know
that there's never been an attack on you as soil. Man.
I think we go see all that in the next
you know, ten to fifteen years, maybe sooner.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
I could believe it. I actually saw somebody talking about
that recently, that if China decided to attack us, we
literally uh willn't have what it takes to deal with
their military.

Speaker 1 (55:12):
You think their military is stronger than ours.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
I ain't gonna lie. I think as far as manpower physically, no,
But I just have reason to believe they've always been
more advanced to us in a lot of other categories,
that their motherfuckers probably got something on the ground over
there that nobody aware of, and their tearorhole goddamn country.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
Well, I'm gonna tell you what I'm scared of saying
that about, dude. I don't think it's necessarily that, man.
I think them motherfuckers put something the air over in
this motherfucker have everybody falling over.

Speaker 3 (55:42):
Oh, I could believe it. You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Dude, doog and you just shovel everybody out this motherfucker.
If you go take over someplace, why would you want
a place? It done? Then blew up. They ain't gotta
do that. They just blow some shit on you and
everybody get to falling out over this motherfucker. You know,
I believe it. I can believe it for everybody. Get everybody,
get the falling all over here stuff. Man, I don't
like That's why. That's how I think they get it.

(56:08):
That's how I think they get us, ma'am. So why
did you put the Family Bible together? First of all,
tell everybody what that is? See anybody what the Family
Bible is? All right?

Speaker 3 (56:18):
So the Family Bible on the grad one, it's a
it's really a to z. It's an a Z comprehensive
God that I created that. I feel like literally every
family should absolutely have.

Speaker 1 (56:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (56:33):
I start from the beginning about their origin story because
I feel like culturally won't have an identity. A lot
of us aren't aware. We won't know where we come from,
we can't know where the hell we head it. So
from the origin story to the family mantra, and it's
really like you know, the moving I live by allin
the relearn really trying to wipe them clean of all
that all that bullshit we've been given from from from

(56:53):
childbirth through social social status, social representation, school and everything.
So man, it's we talk about forging in here. We
talk about living off ground, erasing your digital blueprint of course,
guns gold, laying, regulating your emotions, mental health. I an't
go on and on, but it is really like my

(57:14):
goal with this was for people to be able to
create some type of God for their loved ones that
was relevant to the current times. So I'm not religious myself.
I respect everybody mind, but I feel like a lot
of the books and a lot of the knowledge that
we had in the past are outdated. A lot of
them they got they got great they got great gems.
But I don't think the Koran told us that motherfucker's

(57:37):
gonna be out here don from some ship called COVID,
and we're gonna have an era where the youth gonna
kill the elders and all this crazy shit that's going on.
So my goal with the Family Bible is people being
able to create their own personal blueprint for their family
that they could if they drop dead literally today, they
could leave behind for they loved ones to carry on
that had relevancy to what we're going through right now.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
That is real, real dope. Now, you know, we got
a lot of people listening to this podcast man and
some cats wanted to order man that, the bug out
bag Man and the family Bible. Man. Where could they
go get it? Oh?

Speaker 3 (58:13):
Did they go straight to the website? So everything is
under my government name. It's Derek Well, my government name
is Dereck Grace is second, but it's Derek Grace two
dot com. So same on ig, same on YouTube, Facebook, website,
everything Derek Grace twol dot com.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Yeah. I would like to say, man, have you ever
been referred to as as a survivalist?

Speaker 3 (58:34):
No, No, I haven't.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Haven't. I think you, you know, you on another level,
you know, be more modern, because usually people think about
a survivalists, they think about one of them dudes. Man,
a white dude got some long hair, you know, long
string hair. Man. We live in a trailer somewhere, you know,
down all day and shit. You know, I don't think
that's what it is. I think you give people. I
think you give people life skills. Man. We need more

(58:57):
of that because I think it's a people. It's not
we're not all the way lost, man. But we are lost,
we are very We need to get our focus back.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
Man. No, I agree fully. I agree, man. I feel
like life coming seasons, and I just feel like culturally
we don't understand that part of it. So because of shit,
I practice duality. Like I mean, you know, I got
ten children in five mamas. I be having fun like
everybody else. But there's a time and a place for fun.
There's a time and the place to be Still, there's

(59:28):
a time and the place to be disciplined, and foreshow
will and I live by an earning system. I don't
really engage in things that I don't feel like I
haven't earned. So I ain't finna kick it with three
women at night if I don't feel like I put
the proper work in to deserve such, or I ain't
finna be having fun and investing in this and investing
in that. And culturally, I just feel like we like discipline,
so we bullshit the bulk of our lives. A lot

(59:49):
of us try to get serious when it's too late,
and then we just find ourselves in a repetitive cycle
til we die out.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
One. I got to ask you this because I asked
all the homies and I get interests, and sometimes you
believe in life and out of space, you think it's
life out there.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
Oh hell yeah, man, man, it's so much interesting shit.
I was just saying, they said it's another it's a
super Earth. I think you said, one hundred and forty
forty years away. That's made of diamonds. And it was
just saying, based on the carver, the carver, the carbon
that that super Earth produces, the ground and the atmosphere

(01:00:26):
is literally made out of diamonds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
I do believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:28):
I believe that motherfucker Elon know what's out there. That's
why he's trying to get to borrow so bad, or
he probably already.

Speaker 1 (01:00:35):
It's a whole like the whole word is made of diamonds.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man, I was just looking at it.
I'm gonna get it had a number inside the name.
But they said because of the carbon, carbon production on
the super Earth is completely made out of diamonds.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
I wonder, so will we be able to breathe out there?
Probably too much carb. But if this is making diamonds.

Speaker 3 (01:00:56):
Right right now, it probably is. It's probably not a
spot we could breathe. But I have heard numerous times
that people are gonna be living on Mars any day now.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Well, I actually think don't get me started with that, man,
way off subject, man, I think Mars at one time
probably had some life on it, may still got it.
May they may be living on the ground in summer.
Maybe all that stuff is the defense mechanism to keep
people out, you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Know, right right now, man, I genuinely believe that. I
don't know Elon got a fascination with Mars. I think
Bro probably already over there building houses and ship.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
But you know what, man, see, I'm a conspiracy theorist.
How do we know? All we the only thing we
know about Mars not being uninhabitable, dog is because they
tell us that, right No, just like it's not like
we have a walk up there and be able to
see it. Might be just like this. It might be
some people up there already. They get money, they got
gold up there, and they may be taking trips up

(01:01:53):
there already, going to go get gold every few years
whatever and going to re up coming back.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Bro. I really believe that because he the rating, which
he talked about it, and in the project that he'd
be creating. I'm like, Bro probably already over there, chilling
like a motherfucker. And I'm sure he's big and treating,
has already got the extra strategy like, hey, this ship
gets too real, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
And they leave ours and you know what they gonna do.
They gonna leave our ass down to everybody's looking busy,
looking at TikTok and Instagram all damn day. They will
keep the head down because they ain't gonna be able
to afford the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:25):
Ticket, right, I already know already that's.

Speaker 1 (01:02:28):
What they gonna do. They can keep a lot of
undesirables up. Man. I appreciate you man, really coming to
sit down with us. Man. I think you gave people
a lot of important information and I like to switch
stuff up there once in a while. Man, you know
it can't be all about just I don't know, man,
I think I'm just getting old dog got talking about
some real ship sometimes. You know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:47):
I appreciate it, man, and it's I ain't gonna lost
a full circle moment for me. My brother come home
next month after fifteen years, and we've always been a
big fan of a I wish Bro could have been here.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Just oh, man, what I don't tell you I gotta
tell you, man, while we're doing this, Dog, we go
we gonna do this again. This ain't. I actually held
off half of my question, dog because I know he's
gonna want to do it. We had talked about doing
you together, but then he has some stuff that came
up and so Man, but we definitely gonna do this

(01:03:19):
again though, Bro. And when you're bro come.

Speaker 3 (01:03:22):
On he come home April seventeen.

Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
Oh man, we haven't done before then, Man, I promise you, Yeah,
promise you. And on that know, y'all we out here.
Thank you, Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:03:33):
I appreciate you having him.

Speaker 1 (01:03:35):
Oh for sure, Man, for sure. Well. That concludes another
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