October 23, 2025 • 62 mins
Eiht & Steele discuss the recently released video for "Act My Age" and the legendary Cube responding to a troll who told him to hang up the mic. Should Cube at this point be able to do whatever he feels like, or should he be held to who he was in his early years? Lets discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
And shoots chili doing the strain mall as usual middle
of the week. You know what I'm saying. Getting ready
for football this weekend? As usual?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh yeah, what's your recognize so far? What's four and three? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's not bad right there. Yeah, So I'm gonna genera
right into it. Man, Me and me and you have
been having a conversation over the past you he's man about.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Og like Triple Og West Coast rapper. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
They just dropped the new album along with a visual
that's kind of going viral for I would say the
wrong reasons. He definitely gets a lot of attention off
of it. Right we're talking about my man and ice Q,
and this is what I got to say about q
qbe is barred none. One of the greatest rappers of
(01:35):
all time. Like you cannot say nothing about his career.
You know from him from the time he launched with
n w A just all the stuff he did America's
most wanted, like he got classic albums, and he's known,
he's known for being vicious on that microphone.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I would see it one time.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I would say, at one time, que for sure one
of the most respected rappers on the West Coat, not
you know, not Gus the West Coas, but rat period.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We say so when you agree, i'd say.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And steal significant as far as concerned.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Cube is a superstar. No way am I trying to
be a little his legacy or nothing like that. A
lot of people have a problem with the visuals he
dropped for that for his new single MM with him
the scarface on the like dressed like babies you know
where they had the babysuits on when they.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Looked like two little toddlers.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right. No, DJ Pooh produced the video. I think sometimes man,
people don't want you to change. People want you. They'll
want you ever to have humor. I think if you,
especially an artist of cubes caliber. I think people always
want to see him as the predator.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well you gotta look at you know, choose iconic status.
As far as hip hop concern is substantiated. I guess
it's the a parody or take on some people feeling
like because of our stature or our or maturity that
(03:25):
we should I guess, you know, partaken and other activities
than trying to rap.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So I guess that's a play on you know, Q
taking it like what age am I supposed to act them?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then the paletyyond that toddnership.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
You know, I don't know. I guess you know, we
would have to act. What was the concept behind it?
Maybe it's the concept of you think a niggas should
be young or infant or that stage to be hip hop.
So it's a play on that. I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I think, first of all, this is what I think, man,
this is my honest opinion. I think Cube is successful.
I think Cube was rich as fucking I think Cube
could do whatever the hell you want to. I think
it was just I think it was just as attempt.
I think he was being funny. I think he just
you know, having the humorous I think he was having
fun with this shit, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And they're a lot of his projects as far as
movies are concerned.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
They deal with the.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Comedy aspect, lodging spells outside the seriousness of what he
has done as an actor. Here's a lot of films
that play on the comedy stature. So I could see
in his eyes it's a play on that. I'm not
the serious. I'm crowning you feel me?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, obviously. The one thing I didn't like, though, Man,
this is what I was saying, that is Cube is
such icon. I don't think Cube ever knows. Oh, nobody
explanation man for what he chooses to do with his career,
because he's at this point, he's in his own money
and he's putting his own records out right. And he
(05:20):
responded to this nobody guy on Twitter, right, a guy
on Twitter said that you should go hang the microphone looking.
Cub responded back to him, when I think when you
do that stuff with people, man, you kind of give
them a stage. Everybody don't need a stage, you feel
what I'm saying. Had he ignored it and just blocked
to do it or whatever, nobody would have paid attention
to it. He just went on about his business, but
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he gave this due to form, so that means that
it obviously bothered him.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm sure you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Sometimes people can't go too far with their opens and
sometimes you get into a position to where you don't
feel like turning the other cheek. You get me to
you deal with that shit. You fail me, especially myself
as an artist. I guess you have to be able
(06:14):
to take the criticism. But sometimes I like that. Like
I said, sometimes people can go too far and and
you might you might feel the need to address certain
shit that motherfuckers is staying on your page because you're
looking for positivity, you know what I'm saying, the same situation.
(06:37):
Not to speak on whatever, but it was a situation
where I posted something and there was a comment made
and they had to do with the post. It was
totally just some other shit. You feel me and sometimes
you know, I have to go in the DM and
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it's like, you know, what was the need for all that?
Not that he was saying anything negative towards me, But
the post is for the promotion of my shit, not
for you to get off your grievance about some shit
that might be ailing you, and because you know there
(07:19):
are people watching, you feel the need to, you know,
so like from tars people or fans or whoever, go
to extra mile and it might make you uncomfortable. Sometimes
it might make you have to address some motherfucking.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Cube is a very significant figure, not just on the
West Coast but in all the hip hop period. And
you know what, you just made a valid point. All
of his movies, with the exception of Boys in the Hood,
have been light hearted, humorous movies. Friday, Are We There Yet? Barbershop?
And I actually liked that side of the Cube as
an actor. You feel what I'm saying. He makes good movies.
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He makes good, light hearted movies, right And I think
this right here. I think people get into place, man,
to where they don't want people to change, Like people
are very unacceptable change when it comes to music. It
seems like like they're not down with that. Like if
I think if you did a certain record, man, people
will look at you like you was crazy. You know
(08:19):
what I'm saying, If you did a Will Smith style record, man,
I think people will look at you like as who
lost his mind. I don't know if I would like
to see doing all records like that. You feel me what, Yeah,
but this is what I was gonna say. You've paid
your dues as an artists, an artist should be able
to do what they want to. That don't mean everybody
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go accept it, right right, That don't necessarily mean everybody
gonna be an acceptance of it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But I don't think.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think sometimes these fans they say stuff and they
take it, they make things real personal to where you
almost got to address it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Well, some times, you, like I said it, sometimes motherfuger
might go too far and you may feel that me
there's always you know, turn the other cheap, be the
bigger person and all that shit. But sometimes a motherfuger
might just touch that motherfucking spot to where you feel like, oh,
just that going a little bit too far. I might
(09:19):
have to holler at on me or you go, or
anybody with an excessive opinion you know, yeah, you know what, brilliant,
that's just what it is. It's just a motherfucker's opinion, right.
But like I said, sometimes some people's opinions might be
a little too excessive and it might touch a nerve
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especially I don't know, if you know, if you feel
confident about what you're putting out and what you're doing,
then you confident about it. Would you feel a certain
way if you didn't feel as confident about your pride
and the motherfucker was telling you, you know, some shit,
I'll steal nigga eel if you knew deep down that
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your shit wasn't that's popping as you would hope it
would be.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And now you're seeing people comment.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And say certain things what you feel that's why because
you not as confident as the project as.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You felt it would be. Well, this is what I say.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I definitely think when you respond to something that you
already have something on your mind, right, Like let's say
you've just been getting bombarded with negative stuff all day
and the man's bus was just firebomb You see what
I'm saying. He probably didn't want to hear that shit
at the time, because the first thing you see when
you turn your thing on. I've had people to way
they felt like they could say certain things to me
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and just do it with no thing. But then I
go look at their page and see that they only
had maybe sixteen followers and they was following five thousand people,
and they just like losers. So it's like, I'm not
gonna respond to a loser, right, you don't hold no
significance over my life. Man, I think I've kind of
been past the point man that I allow people to
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live rent free.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Inside my head, yeah, I hear, I hear that saying
a lot, you know, And I guess when you dealt
with the music business and you dealt with opt it,
when you dealt with in the music business that you
(11:35):
deal with business and other bullshit shit don't always gonna
go your way, you know what I'm saying. It's not
gonna always go your way. So you have tomorrow how
to have thick skin, especially in this entertainment world of music, movies,
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you know, writing books, whatever whatever it is, and they
entertain feel right because directors and movie trump pedice can
put our movies spend twenty thirty forty million that mother,
we're gonna even make back fifteen twenty the first week.
So that looked at as a bomb, as a failure.
(12:17):
You're gonna have the writers criticize, right when there's a
bad movie or they think somebody acted back. You see
them go to the columns and the shit real quick
and be like, oh, this movie trying to suck give
me the three or four. The rating was real low
on it. People can voice their opinions, sot a do
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so I guess, you know, in a sense, we have
to be able to You gotta have to pick skin,
you know what I'm saying, because not everybody gonna like
what I'll put out he gives me.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And thus, when you open yourself.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
To public opinion by being in that spotlight, right, by
being in that entertainment world, you open yourself up to
rid of chule and comments and opinions, and you have
to be able to deal with that, right because if not,
you shouldn't be in that field.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, that was the other part I was gonna say
to I was gonna say to you know, que made
a comment to you know, go find your humor and
get out my business. I think when you decide to
release an album to the public, you kind of make
it everybody's business because somebody's gonna have an opinion, whether
that opinion is solicited or not.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know, I try my.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Best man to always be respectful about things, even though
even if it's something I may not particularly like. I
don't feel you have to actually bash somebody to disrespect
somebody to say, you know, give a casual observation on
an album. More peace of art, because all alreadience is
all subject if anyway right, something to me and you
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might not like it, might be twenty thousand other people
that like it. At the end of the day, the
only will he did hit me and told me he
wanted to watch you show down in Houston, and he
said it was packed. Man, he said it was a
It was a rocking ass show. And you know it
was fact. This dude filled the whole stadium, you know,
whole arena. He still can go out, man at fifty
six years old and feel the whole arena. Man doing classics.
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It's at the end of the day, man, I think
Cube didn't tell the hell he want to because it
ain't gonna it ain't gonna stop. And I think at
this point he just having fun.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I mean, you got to, uh, when you've been through
as as much as Cube has been through, as far
as the business is concerned, gip pop, the movie world,
being a hip pop artist, being a label, being a
movie producer, acting in movies, getting the scripts to act
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in other people's movies outside of your own. They can
in stride and when you have done as much as
Cube has done for West Coast hip hop and hip
hop in general, certain certain people we look to as
or heroes as far as sustaining on a legacy of
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what we loved as consumers and fans, because not only
a line artists. I'm a consumer because I buy shit.
I'm a fan because I love when I hear a
good song. So certain niggas have the right to you know,
and que I can do this shit because I started
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this shit.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You get me. So if I feel like I want
to put out a record.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And this is how the direction I want to go
and I want to clown and I want to do
a video where I'm mocking motherfuckers who say we should
be acting on aids, and we should because we always
go up against that with the newer generation and just
people in general not feeling like we should be rapping
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or making music or whatever it is because for some
reason they want to restrict and they want to put
an age limit on hip hop, which is ridiculous because
no other genre of music does that to its artist,
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past or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Path, praiser or even future.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You want to record to you a hundred years old,
I'm pretty sure if you could record as an old
school pop artist, or if Dolly Parton wanted to go
out and put out a record, she could put out
a record, nobody would tell her.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Why don't you just sit at home and stop rapping?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, stop lake and country song you two motherfucking
old Nobody disrespects their appears outside of hippop. You actually
get disrespected as a legacy artist and hippop because it's like,
it's it's absurd for you to be putting out music
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to some people.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And that's just some critics, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
So you got to in one hand, you got to
laugh because the video was comical. But then in another hand,
you got to give a nigga a salute for standing
up to motherfuckers who feel like we should be hanging
it up when the mic is concerned. Who are you
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to tell me? I am acting my age, motherfucker, but
I'm a I'm a clown, because what age is supposed
to be able to wrap the babies?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
They getn't. So you know, well, this is the thing,
right they I listened to the whole album. Here's some
songs I like on there. It's not like like the
thing Neil is Man, I think what people mission this
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huge music is not whack, right, I think he's just
fighting his own legiends, so to speak. Because you got
to remember, I heard Lethal Injection when it first dropped, right,
America's most wanted not not Lethal Ejection, but Death Certificate,
Death Certificate when it first dropped, And that was white
one of the best albums I've ever heard, right still
to this day.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right, And I think Cube is fighting that. And I think.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You got a whole generation of fans that don't remember
that Cube or right, they just no cue from being
Craig on Craig on Friday or you know what I'm saying,
the dude from a barbership, right, that's all they know
him from.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
They don't remember that that vicious ice Cube.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So as long as we doing music, man, as long
as we're putting ourselves in front of people, people have
the right court of public opinion. Right if people go
say what they feel they can say is some of
these dudes is brutal. But I'll tell you this, half
the people that dropping their unsolicited in comments and their
opinions about shit don't even have decent lives. They mad
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at theyself but that's why they come so hard as
somebody else, right, somebody out to living their dreams of
doing what they're doing, because it's always it's a touch
of jealousy to it. Man, it's always jealousy.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't know what beyond people would saying negatives being
a hater. I don't understand the reasoning behind. And and
again these are people's own opinions to why a motherfucker
might even stray some shit like hang it up?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Are are you a cute fan?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Or are you just a motherfucker who popped in for
a minute to see because you've heard the ice tube
and the Legenderry ice tube and whatever, And maybe he
just popped in and was like, maybe I didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Like the project.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You know, we have to be careful in the way
we address our opinions because you fould the easily just said,
you know, hate you if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm a big fan.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You know I really didn't might like this project too much,
but you know, I'm always down and I'm gonna always
support and you know I'll be waiting for the next one.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know, that would have been something that was not me.
That's the type of shit.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I would try to say if I'm a genuine fan,
But if I'm just a dumb motherfucker and trying to
get attention by saying the negative shit on the motherfucker's page,
then I don't think I would even address it because
I know what the mother trying to do.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You're trying to get more motherfucking likes and motherfucking.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's what that thing has been seen over a million times,
and that's what I'm saying. People that do stuff like
aren't real fans. So I've had people, We've all had
people that try to.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
You can't be a fan if you're telling the motherfucker
you need to hang it up. Like I said, maybe
this is just not your cup of tea on this project.
But my man has always put out significant music, so maybe.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
This one you didn't like.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
But there's a way to address that, and there's a
way to voice your opinion in the positive aspect to
where you not speaking click bait type of shit and
attention for motherfuckers you on the Oh look, this nigga
reached by Ice Fool responded to this nigga it that
made his century.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You give me.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
This is the one thing I would say right, And
this is what I tell everybody, be careful singing them,
singling out the paters, and actually rewarding them for their behavior,
because when you respond to hater, you actually wordinator Hey,
if you're right, you acknowledging them right, and you letting
them know you bothered me. So I'm gonna have to
say something to you. And I'm pretty sure it's millions
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of people or thousands of people at least, who have
left positive comments on CUE, but he ain't probably say
none of them. Not Once you feel what I'm saying,
I think that we need to focus on the catch.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Well then or unless you do that still, then what
signals out the difference of that fan from the.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Twenty others you give me? I mean the twenty million others.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
It's always the negative motherfuckers that stabbed out the boldest
and that you want to address because they saying, come
off the wall shit you feel mem Have you.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Ever had anybody tell you that she was in height
you should hang the microphone up.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Not in so many words, but like I said, I
still fit into that class of people feeling like, you know,
we should hang the micup at a certain aide. If
I had a person directly tell me, oh man, that
ain't it my nigga, you need to hang it up.
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I mean there's people who would turn around and when
you go, oh yeah, I'm getting ready to put out
a project.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You see people who goes okay and or who tears
you get me.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's it's not that necessarily the motherfucking taint rap.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's just that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Nigga.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You you fit the you fit the age limit criteria.
You fit, you fit the uh you fit the motherfucker
with it. You know, you see the infomercials on TV
and when you get a.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Certain age, you get a break from your.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Insurance and shit, yeah, like you you're fitted to that class.
Now they feel like they feel like hip hop is
the young man's game. It's it's like I said, it's
outside of any other genre of music. Whether it's R
and B, whether it's pop, whether it's jazz, whether it's blues,
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whether it's country, whether it's motherfucking Asian, whether it's Puerto Rican,
whether it's Lexicon.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It don't matter.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
It could be eighty and it's still putting out records
and if you have the significant fan base, it'll be
one hundred thousand motherfuckers that a big ass concert or
whatever whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
They respect that hip hop is like.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Hip hop is like sports, nigga, right, hip hop ain't
even like the drug game, because if you're able to
sustain in the drug game, you can look up and nigga,
you can beat fifty five sixty and still be balling.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You can still be seventy balling pimping.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
You get me nigga out there with holes and cat
Daddy and the nigga who there kept his nose to
the motherfucking grind and ain't exposed, And just then, no,
nigga's nigga the generation of Kilo happers, you feel me?
But hip hop, Oh no, nigga, once you turn thirty five,
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you might as well start packing it up, because now.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Hip hop is looking to be the voice of the
young and angry. I believe in I think that people
that really preach agism, because that's what the deos, you know,
to tell somebody, hell, you too old to do something right.
I believe a certain among those people are rappers themselves.
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I think only I've never heard an actual fan say, oh,
I don't listen to him because he's too old. I
just think people listen to good music and bad music.
You know, it's either good music or bad music, right,
I think people what they attracted to, right. And I
say that because I was and I'm not gonna get
this guy no kind of shine. And I saw this
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guy the other day. He put a post and he
had ice huge video picture from the video of him
and face says, the baby's right and said, here's another
example of a man wasting a perfectly cut budget that
could have been spent on a young rapper out here
in La. What he could have took that money and
promoted the young rapper in La. And it's like kind
of like, dude, who are you to tell this man
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what to spend his money on.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Well, usually that comes from a motherfucker who's trying to
get into the business and they feel that they're hot
and they're the next up and coming thing, And why
spend money on this old school, last nigga when that
money could have been directed at me?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
But the talent just don't be there. It's a nigga.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's a gang of niggas who can rap, you feel
me can niggas who can rap?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
But can you create music?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That's the whole difference between a lot of iconic artists,
and you know, no disrespect to my young generation because
they get theirs. And that's why I never have a
hatred or a haterithm for the young generation of music,
even though we on a different page with our shit
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that we're still trying to create. And not that a
nigga couldn't do that type of motherfucking shit, but what
I look like doing some shit that the twenty year
olds are doing.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So I stay in my own lane because I feel.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
That I have solidified myself and have enough fan base
over the years and over the countries and states and
different continents that I can sustain putting out music. But
you've still got to put out some quality shit, now,
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you feel me, because the cards are triple stacked against
you as an iconic figure because you have to compete,
and so you have to at least put out shit
that's decent. If you put out shit that was significant,
I don't think you would get the negativity of AIDS
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as much as you would if your shit was of
high quality.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You get me.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you this, though I hear that
argument all the time. Why don't y'all move out the
way and let the young people through. It's almost like
they begging, like, like, please stop making music, so somebody
would make something significant, make something to make someone want
to play your music. Because I'm gonna be honest with you,
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hip hop is on the decline for the first time
in fifty years.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Hip hop is fifty some years old, and we've dominated
hip We've dominated like music as a whole from the
on set, and it's starting to go down. And that's
because of the quality of the music. A lot of
these people are just making shitty music. Man, the music
is not no good. I'm saying that. I'm not an hater.
A lot of the music that these young kids making,
it's just not good music. A lot of it I
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wouldn't even classify as rat.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Hey my the computer working right now. I'm about to
jump in, all right, yo, y'all. Yeah, there we go,
right there, there we go. We get Oh, you're on
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the phone, y'all. You see that dedication. You did it
from the phone till the computer came back to working.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, you don't speak. We all good.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
So that's what I say, man, it's the it's it's
just the significance of of how good your project is,
because you still got to put out some decent music.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You feel me at the end of the day, you
you want to you you you're competing.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You're still a competition, right, you're getting me, and so
you have to be able to compete. Not that you're
gonna be expected, not that you're gonna be expected to
do the forty.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right, you ain't to do.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The forty yard dash, right, come on, you're you're over
forty five years old. You're not expected to do the forty,
but you gotta at least do the twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You get me, and you get me. You gotta lead.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
If you can't do the motherfucking twenty, that I'll I'll
know what you do it here, because if you if
you run it, if you run it a twenty at
under my meiga, come.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
On, man, come on, help me out.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And now you're gonna get the booze from the stands
and you're gonna get the all.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Man, what is this motherfucker doing here?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You get me this nigga limping, he can't even do
a twenty And nigga ran like five ten yards a
nigga and just pooped out. And and that goes for
your material. Your material is, we're not expecting it to
be a forty you get me. Them young niggas is
running forties right now. But your shit gotta at least
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be a twenty man if you want to compete in
the in the section.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
And I will say that. And when I say these
young cats see a lot of people Kendrick is forty.
I believe Kendrick is almost forty if he's not forty already. Right,
I'm not talking about him, I'm not talking about the
j Coles. I'm not talking about the Drakes. Them dudes
don't careers. That's over ten years. They kind of the
OG's And at this point, right, a lot of this
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stuff is just not good because it's not being developed.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And even if you did the side take a young
rapper me, you had a conversation about this, right. You know,
I got a record label and I'm doing some things,
and I'm really doing it for the love of the
music because there's really not a lot of money and
actually making the music. Now, you know, you got guys
out there. As a dude that made beats and that
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can produce, there's not really a reason for me to
go out there and really try to push my beats
because you got cats to selling beats online. I don't
know how to tell you, Lisa beat, but they leasing
beats online for twenty five dollars. Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
If some of that shit is fired, some more was fired.
So how do I compete with that?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Do I go out and put my beats up on
beat Stars or one of these other sites and say, hey,
shoot me fifty dollars and you can have a license
for this.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Hell no, that's not even worth That's not worth doing, bro.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And it's like they've just the value out the music
so bad now, man with I almost think it was
on purpose because the record companies making their money either way,
all of them got ownership and Spotify. Everybody from these
all these record labels are getting a piece of the
action right right. They play on the way just to
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take everybody kind of knock everybody of the loop.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I would say, like, you know, you got guys like.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Rock Marcy Now the Benny, the Butcher, those cats. That's
kind of selling the consume right now, and they ain't
making their money.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
If you're selling a product and it's product that people want,
people gonna find a way to get it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right. That's with any ding right now.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
With with with the Internet and Google search and all
that other bullshit. Right, you can basically just request what
you want and if it exists, you get me, you
can buy it. So, you know, if niggas have a
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great social media presence, if niggas are putting out some
decent product of music that they feel consumers feel like
they want what they want, you get me. It's like
when you go out to eat, motherfucker you're gonna order.
When you're ordering something, you not ordering it because whatever.
You ain't ordering some shit because you don't like it, right,
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You ordering this shit because you like that shit. You
planning on fucking that shit up. You planing on cleaning
the plate. So and then there's times, you know, and
this is with consumers too. There sometimes you might want
to try some shit, right, you might hope it's good.
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I mean, it looked good. Right, this is a place
that you frequented it before. You know, you've never tried
this other product. So again, your shit got to be
good and if people want it, they're gonna be able
to get it. And it's just another way for us
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as artists to try to stand firm on believing in
ourselves and gambling on ourselves, right, Because if you gonna
let Spotify and all the mother places gamble on your
mother fucking income and your position in the hip hop game,
you might as well gamble and roll the dice yourself, right.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So I might as well just put this shit up
on my own.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Site, and instead of making sixty cent, I might as
well make a full ten dollars and just hopefully push
the shit on my page or you know, whatever price
is a nigga pushing his product for, because.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
We're telling you right now, we ain't we selling for
way more than ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'm just saying in the aspect of, you know, of
what people gonna spend, a person donna spend whatever they
want to spend on what they want to have, whether
it's motherfucking ten dollars, whether it's one hundred dollars. My
aspect of saying, you're still making more money than you
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would make from Spotify pushing shit on your own on
your own platform, And that's what a lot of artists
are starting to do because, like you said, and inflation
has risen to get me and to press up a
CD and package it up and get it done and
all that. It's valuable to a true consumer. So you know,
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shit is the fans are willing to get what they
want to get. Yeah, the thing is right, you got
Cee these right now? Man, I would say, right now,
Vinyl is still expensive to make. Vinyl has always been
expensive to make. That's why vinyl costs went right exactly.
You have some people sell a vinyl for two hundred
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three hundred dollars, right, but finyl sales yup. People want
to buy them. All that stuff is looked at its
collector's items. Now, well, you know, going back to you
know ce Man, I personally want to see all the
OG's continue making music, right, even if it may not
be without necessarily like from them. You understand what I'm
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saying because it's okay to say you don't like something, right.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You can definitely have an opinion of your likes or dislikes,
and people shouldn't take it personal because, like I said,
people just expect. And I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
About you know, whatever a new fan might expect, you
can't compete with, you know, what's going on in that
other realm of hip hop. I'm talking about someone who
has followed you or someone who has listened to your
music over the decades. You know, somebody who would go
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to that concert of Cubes, you get me. That's a
true fan, that's a true consumer. Because everybody in there
should recognize who Cube is, the work he's put out,
his position in hip hop, and they should.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Again know the product they're getting.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
So those are true fans, and those are people who
are willing, and those are people who will contribute and
go out and buy an ice Cube record. I'm one
of them. Yeah, So think about that side of the record.
You know, I download the ship and I'll listen to it.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
You give me.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Everything is not gonna be to Everything is not going
to be the people's liking. True fans, and true fans
are gonna love what he puts out because they just
respect the craft of ice Cube and.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
What he does.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Some people who are just passing through might have an
opinion about what they like and don't like.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You know, one thing Willie De told me was, well,
Cube did the show on him, Houston. You know how
to say even sort of lights to the good your
blunt and it read ice Cube's a pin.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
He had a blint floated over the arena, bro right,
like right, the only traces on the road with them.
You know he built them two cars. Mm yeah, he
built them two low riders. He built the uh, the
good day Lowrider, and he built the boys in the
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hood Lowrider.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
That's due shout up to shout out to the homie Chris.
But you gotta just think about this, right, Cube obviously
don't need the money, right, And the reason why bring
up the PLMT not only because that's built like I
would have been hyped if I have saw some ship
like that the show, right, But to put those blimps
in the sky costs a lot of money, bro, If
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I'm not mistaken, it's more than twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
You got a Cube, it's up his his you know,
he's he's he's a good showman.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
He puts on good showman ship. Oh he put through,
he puts.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Because I'm gonna tell you, young people, I've seen a
lot of y'all perform. It's some of y'all to get busy.
I ain't gonna go into that right now. Some of
y'all get busy, but a lot of y'all really need
to work on y'all stage presence out here, dudes rapping
over the tracks, just standing up there kind of like this.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Hey, the song is going on. They just standing up there, just.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Kind of just just doing whatever right up. Is still
one of the best performers in hip hop, still one
of the best performers in hip hop by far. And
for him to go out and spend the money on
a blimp, right, that means he's doing this for the love,
because that means he probably spent the significant portion of
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his money, you feel what I'm saying, just to put
that show on. And I remember Willie de Make sing
that he did the show before down there, and Q
kind of operated at a loss on the show, like
because he just likes being out like this a dude.
They just love hip hop, bro, Like he for sure
don't need it no more at this point.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
I mean, if you in the position to where you
can put together your shows.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
And you can go out on the road and do
twenty thirty dates and give people that that reminiscent feeling
of yester Year's hip hop, and especially with.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Somebody like Ice cue Cube, we've traveled with through time
as far as his music is concerned. So He'll take
you all the way back to once at a time
and the projects to something he put out last week,
and that shows longevity.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
In hip hop.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Not no mixtapes, No disrespect to mixtapes and whatever people
do to get on and whatever. But this as a
dude who has sustained a career over decades. As far
as him concerned, hip hop been around fifty years. A
lot of us have been putting out music for maybe
thirty thirty five forty years. You're getting me at a
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time where hip hop was frowned upon and you got
banned for a way you talked and what you look
like and references you made, which is all open, open
door now.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
You know, it's like dudes in zail too. It's just
like motherfuckers had to go through the rough shit for us.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
To be able to sit at the front of the
bus today.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
You get me.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
You had to go through those rough times, just like
our ancestors when it came to you know, eating certain
places and drinking out of fountains and shit like that. Man,
we we went through hell. People hated us, you know,
like people mouffuckers was banning. You couldn't get played your
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videos wouldn't get played.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Motherfucker's would be out there using your.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Motherfucking references and your lyrics as quotes, and their motherfucking campaigns,
and motherfuckers out there running over your CDs that I
had an episode where motherfucking mentioned me, and and and
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and saying.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That I was a negative influence countings.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Most wanted whatever. It's what you had to go through
to be able to.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
You today. Motherfuckers today gotta deal with none of that.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
They walking well, you could be the roughest, toughest criminal
asses motherfucker on the planet and they walking with open
arms through the doors.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
You know it was you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
So times change, right, Times have changed for a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's still a struggle. Still.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You're still generation for sure. Paid dudes are early generation. Hey,
let me ask you this, a did you feel bad
when you saw the moff of the room over your CDs?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
I ain't feel bad about it. Shit, And you had
to pay for that ship, so it didn't matter what
your record sal wasn't like you got the ship for free.
You know what I'm saying. You you still have to
go spend the church's money to be.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Able to go run their motherfucking's over.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
So shit, if you will take money out your budget
where you could be using it for something positive, you
want shit, I ain't doing nothing and you've dumb. Motherfuckers
don't understand. That's how the world work, right. They see negativity. Shit,
they wanted more. Now I really want to go listen
to it. You steam rolling the ship and banning it
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and saying that this motherfucker can't be played.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Oh, I got to go get this ship now.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Man, you the work man. That's crazy. Man, that's crazy.
And guess if just motherfuckers just feel like I don't know, dude,
do do you know? Like people tell you, I don't
know if that fits your age the age description? Do
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do do?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Do? Do?
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Beg's or young thugs or young homies tell they ol
g's as quick it's time to start banging, or it's
time to get out the neighborhood if they're still there.
A lot of niggas move away and do that. But
I wonder if that's an issue you getting me the
young niggas in the hood, are y'all telling or they're
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still old g's left around in the hood and are
y'all forcing them to get out the hood, because what
it's a bad influence because old niggas are still representing
the block.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I don't think it's no more hood at all. Man.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
They seem like they're tearing all that down. But this
is what they say. You box you on Wine eight.
M C eight is not considered a negative influence, but
rather a complex figure who draws on his difficult upbringing
for his music. While his music often portrays the realities
of street life, which can include violence and gangs, he
has stated he used the rap to tell stories and
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does not glorify street life. He is also an active
member of the Crypt gang, but as also are for
critical perspectives on the dangers of gang culture, particularly regarding
his influence. As they say about you, they say that
she was a storyteller, bro that she was a good figure
of the music.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I've never tried to be a negative influence to because.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Let me tell you this, it was my choice to
join a gang. I think have to.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
We all lived in poverty at one point. I grew
up in Georgian You get me. That's a that's that's
a bad start right there. Not to say that Compton
was bad because I tell motherfucker's all the John my child.
The upbringing was lovely and I didn't know. I didn't
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know what poverty was. Even though we was in poverty,
I didn't know what that shit was. We stayed in
the house, we had a vehicle to go back and forth,
and we didn't start. The lights was always on. You
getting it was was gang baying and dope dealing and
shootouts throughout the neighborhood. But that was a part of
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growing up in coming gin.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
You're getting me.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
It was great Christmas parades and motherfucking Christmas is in
the neighborhood, and getting getting bikes.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And skates, and.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Being able to go to places like Louis Bergers and
get a chili burger and fries special if my bringing
on Burgers, and just not having to go through the bullshit,
you know, not saying it was bullshit, but whatever mAbs
was gonna come up with the meal for that evening.
Nothing was better than getting a burger and fried special. Sure,
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so life was great. Trips to the auntie's house on
the weekends, motherfuckers out there getting loaded. We in the
cousins rooms, playing the video games or watching TV or
you know what. I'm saying, cousins come over our house
on the weekend, We go over the house and shit
like that. Man, life was lovely, but you know, we
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lived in a gang infestic niggas was drive by shooting
and niggas was selling shame and you know, and different
neighborhoods were serving different narcotics.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
And your auntie you.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Lived in in Blood neighborhood, your other auntie lived in
Blood neighborhood, and you starting to claim crip shit and
life started to get serious.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
But like I said, who knew. That's that's just what
it was. You feel me.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
So at any point when you was doing them CD
when you was younger, man, she would still be doing
that stuff today.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Man, I didn't know. I didn't know what.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I'm one of them type of motherfuckers who I try
not to think so far in the future. Now I'm
I'm worried about what happened next week.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
You get me. That's it.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
If I can sustain and make it through next month,
then everything is good. And then I go from there.
Then I go from there. You can dream big and
you can walk things as ship. Oh, in five years,
I'm gonna do this and you you don't know what
God's gonna do to him, you feel and you have
no clue what you've got.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Really, if I can wake.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Up tomorrow, then I'm dealing with tomorrow and I'm gonna
do whatever. Nothing's planned, you feel me, unless unless a motherfucker, Hey,
you gotta meet next week, or you got a doctor's
appointing the next week, or oh I gotta go to
football practice. You feel me that type of shit. But
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other than that, you take it as it comes. You
feel me because nothing is everything that's unexpected. You can
say next week you're finla, go do some shit, and
next week come you not doing it?
Speaker 1 (51:42):
You feel me. Time is for sure not guaranteed. Man.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
There have been interviews that we were supposed to have, man,
and I might have delayed on the sick. You know what,
I'm gonna push this back in the subject dies. You
know that's happened a couple of times. Man, And really,
I don't think we should take time for.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Granted, No you can't. You gotta take every day and
stride and it is what it is. Enjoy every day.
And it's okay to dream and have plans, but you
know everything is unexpected. Everything you know, life can throw
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you a curve ball. So I wake up tomorrow and
we're gonna do what we gotta do tomorrow. You feel me,
And I want Friday. I'm gonna do what I gotta
do on Friday. And that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, And I think man shut out to Cube. I
wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
That's on my bucket list to actually be able to
sit down with Cube man and we have a conversation
with him one day, just about this career as the whole,
you know, because he's done some mother, he's a lection.
You know, a lot of people throw that term lex
a round with these definitely a legend and they brought
good music to the coach and it's done a lot
of things for the culture.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I think if people go back and actually look at
people's body of work and look at the impact on
the culture, I think they're handled. Handle these people with
a new form of reference. You know. I think somebody
like you definitely deserves our respect. I think he I
don't think people should be allowed to just come at him,
tell him to put the microphone down, Like, who the
hell does that do? Tell him to put the mic
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down up?
Speaker 4 (53:29):
And like I said, sometimes you're gonna run into people
who just and and and most of the time they're nobodies, right,
They're not always a newbody. And most of the time
those are people who are seeking attention and want to
just be seen or heard.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
So those are the people we you know, we we.
Speaker 4 (53:49):
Let him have they they they five minutes of fame.
You get me, go ahead, go ahead and clown and
talk shit. And then after that, I'm just gonna delete
you and block you, and You'll never be able to
make another comment again. So get your get your little
spotlight right quick, be a hater, get your little spotlight,
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because I'm not gonna even respond negatively to you. After
you get through rattling raving, I'm just gonna delete you
and block you.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
And now that the problem is solved, well, you know
what the thing is, right, I don't even give them
that much. Heyduke, just block round block and I don't
got so swift of that ship man.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Block or it's easy.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
I mean it's it's it's easier than sitting up, giving
a person a public platform and going back and forth
with a motherfucker. You ain't gonna never see in your lifetime.
You ain't gonna never run across this motherfucker. They're ratting,
they're raving, they're doing all this shit, and most of
the time it's it's just for like I said, it's
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all for the sake of a motherfucker trying to get
BA their glory on for a minute.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Well, I remember, if you remember brought one time, there
was no access to artists like that. You had to
actually write a letter and if you could reach the
actual artists right you didn't have the way you can
just go send somebody a DM or go on somebody's
posts and just say some old fucked up shit.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
I think that we need to start giving the artists,
need to start bringing that mystique bag and not giving
everybody access.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
I think that what you do well, I used to
always tell only chill. You can't make yourself accessible to everyone.
That's why I've torn down and the social media a lot.
I would used to be on there every day checking shit.
I can't even tell you the last time and before
I posted the album cover, shit that I've been on
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Instagram in months, months could roll by, and I don't
even think the look on the Instagram. Most you know
go on Facebook and little bit just because a lot
of you football platforms on Facebook. So other than that, man,
you get worn out with with with with social media.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
You get worn out.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
You don't know who's genuine and hopefully you know you
attract these people and people follow you because they're genuine fans.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
But you have to be careful with shit, man, and
so I chill.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
You can't make yourself as accessible like you can't go
to everybody's shit, You can't pull up at every function,
you can't do interviews with everyone. You can't go on
everybody's podcasts or do beats for everybody or do versus
for everybody, because you're burying yourself out. And then motherfuckers
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be like this motherfucker again, you give me? Who wants
to hear this neck?
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Again? You get so you can make yourself as.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Accessible to everyone as you think you should because of
the way social media has pushed the line of accessibility
for the common person to be able to hit up
a celebrity or or a musician or whatever. It's open season.
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You get me.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
This is my last question for you. I'm gonna see
if you really answer. Do you think that there are
some ogs who should probably put the microphone down.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
There's a lot of OG's who have already put the
microphone down. There's a lot of people that you don't
see put me out music today, and I'm not gonna
name names, but there's a few. And then there's a
few who feel like they still have the ambition to
create good music because of what they're being forced to
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witness as far as uh, what they have created and started.
You know, there's a lot of niggas I look at
as OG's and hip hop who could still put our music,
you get me. I would still I still listen to you,
I still listen. I'd still listen to some iced tea.
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I'd still listen to some Chubb Dy. I'd still listen
to some Easy if he was alive, you feel me. Uh,
there's a lot I still listen to some dubs. Some
still fie is still putting our music, you give me.
There's certain niggas that I would still be true fans
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of putting out music. And then there's some dudes who
attempt and just not don't have it anymore, you get me, And.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
So they might have to consider putting the mic down.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Yeah, And ain't nothing wrong with that either, man, y'all
make sure, Matt y'all Walton, get the ice Cube album. Man,
go streaming. Man, it's man up. It's actually in a
bad album. I'll actually listen to it. It got a
few dough tongs on there, but more than a few.
It's there's different cubes in a different place, and we
gotta stop it. Man Cube fifty six years old. No,
we can't expect him to be Cube. That was twenty one.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
And music music is gonna go different. Whatever you did
in your teens and twenties, you're not expected to still
be doing in your forties and fifties. So thus you
have to evolve with the age and what and what
is expected now. People are still gonna expect you to
give them some of those true songs that they grew
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up with. But you have to be able to adapt
and overcome. You feel me, Yeah, you know, speaking of
elves before we go, you know, we go ahead this
album release party. When you think we do nothing release,
he's party of a listener party. Well, yeah, November party maybe, yeah, November.
I should be done mixing in November.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I know.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
I said I was gonna try to drop the record Halloween,
but we're getting a little more interest in the record.
I know some people might say who cares, And then
there's some people who go, yeah, do what you do,
keep going. But yeah, for true fans and for a
couple of people that we know, managers and whatever, we're
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gonna just put together a little listening session. Niggas come
through smoke, have a little sip, and I'm gonna bang
the record. Like I said, we had about forty songs
right now, all forty gonna go on the project. No,
but we're gonna We're gonna put the dopest songs out,
maybe eighteen songs, and then we're.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Gonna go from there. Yeah, we gonna help, but we
go with lost some general public people to come, but
not a whole lot of them. Just twol fans that
you know will do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Special invite you know, a motherfucker after text code a
number or something to a code or inbox whatever, a
special email and for you know, maybe have them answer
some questions or see if they true fans, or see
what's the oldest project they have of m C eights.
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How you know, what's their collection looking like. And then
those who heard it, that's dope right there. So y'all
flood against the Chronicles page, y'all page. We want to
see y'all, We want to see them pictures.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
And with the oldest project you got, I wonder if
anybody else they gotta got asset. That'd be crazy if
they got what was that? That was a blue cassette,
wasn't it? Yeah, the OZ Blue cascipt. I'm gonna see
if some one of y'all got the OZ blue cassette.
On that note, we out here, We check y'all out
next week. Well, that concludes another episode of Against the
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Speaker 4 (00:36):
And shoots chili doing the strain mall as usual middle
of the week. You know what I'm saying. Getting ready
for football this weekend? As usual?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Oh yeah, what's your recognize so far? What's four and three? Oh?
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That's not bad right there. Yeah, So I'm gonna genera
right into it. Man, Me and me and you have
been having a conversation over the past you he's man about.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Og like Triple Og West Coast rapper. Man.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
They just dropped the new album along with a visual
that's kind of going viral for I would say the
wrong reasons. He definitely gets a lot of attention off
of it. Right we're talking about my man and ice Q,
and this is what I got to say about q
qbe is barred none. One of the greatest rappers of
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all time. Like you cannot say nothing about his career.
You know from him from the time he launched with
n w A just all the stuff he did America's
most wanted, like he got classic albums, and he's known,
he's known for being vicious on that microphone.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I would see it one time.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I would say, at one time, que for sure one
of the most respected rappers on the West Coat, not
you know, not Gus the West Coas, but rat period.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
We say so when you agree, i'd say.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
And steal significant as far as concerned.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Cube is a superstar. No way am I trying to
be a little his legacy or nothing like that. A
lot of people have a problem with the visuals he
dropped for that for his new single MM with him
the scarface on the like dressed like babies you know
where they had the babysuits on when they.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Looked like two little toddlers.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Right. No, DJ Pooh produced the video. I think sometimes man,
people don't want you to change. People want you. They'll
want you ever to have humor. I think if you,
especially an artist of cubes caliber. I think people always
want to see him as the predator.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Well you gotta look at you know, choose iconic status.
As far as hip hop concern is substantiated. I guess
it's the a parody or take on some people feeling
like because of our stature or our or maturity that
(03:25):
we should I guess, you know, partaken and other activities
than trying to rap.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
So I guess that's a play on you know, Q
taking it like what age am I supposed to act them?
Speaker 1 (03:44):
And then the paletyyond that toddnership.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
You know, I don't know. I guess you know, we
would have to act. What was the concept behind it?
Maybe it's the concept of you think a niggas should
be young or infant or that stage to be hip hop.
So it's a play on that. I guess.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, I think, first of all, this is what I think, man,
this is my honest opinion. I think Cube is successful.
I think Cube was rich as fucking I think Cube
could do whatever the hell you want to. I think
it was just I think it was just as attempt.
I think he was being funny. I think he just
you know, having the humorous I think he was having
fun with this shit, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
And they're a lot of his projects as far as
movies are concerned.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
They deal with the.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Comedy aspect, lodging spells outside the seriousness of what he
has done as an actor. Here's a lot of films
that play on the comedy stature. So I could see
in his eyes it's a play on that. I'm not
the serious. I'm crowning you feel me?
Speaker 3 (04:57):
Yeah, obviously. The one thing I didn't like, though, Man,
this is what I was saying, that is Cube is
such icon. I don't think Cube ever knows. Oh, nobody
explanation man for what he chooses to do with his career,
because he's at this point, he's in his own money
and he's putting his own records out right. And he
(05:20):
responded to this nobody guy on Twitter, right, a guy
on Twitter said that you should go hang the microphone looking.
Cub responded back to him, when I think when you
do that stuff with people, man, you kind of give
them a stage. Everybody don't need a stage, you feel
what I'm saying. Had he ignored it and just blocked
to do it or whatever, nobody would have paid attention
to it. He just went on about his business, but
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he gave this due to form, so that means that
it obviously bothered him.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I'm sure you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Sometimes people can't go too far with their opens and
sometimes you get into a position to where you don't
feel like turning the other cheek. You get me to
you deal with that shit. You fail me, especially myself
as an artist. I guess you have to be able
(06:14):
to take the criticism. But sometimes I like that. Like
I said, sometimes people can go too far and and
you might you might feel the need to address certain
shit that motherfuckers is staying on your page because you're
looking for positivity, you know what I'm saying, the same situation.
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Not to speak on whatever, but it was a situation
where I posted something and there was a comment made
and they had to do with the post. It was
totally just some other shit. You feel me and sometimes
you know, I have to go in the DM and
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it's like, you know, what was the need for all that?
Not that he was saying anything negative towards me, But
the post is for the promotion of my shit, not
for you to get off your grievance about some shit
that might be ailing you, and because you know there
(07:19):
are people watching, you feel the need to, you know,
so like from tars people or fans or whoever, go
to extra mile and it might make you uncomfortable. Sometimes
it might make you have to address some motherfucking.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Well.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Cube is a very significant figure, not just on the
West Coast but in all the hip hop period. And
you know what, you just made a valid point. All
of his movies, with the exception of Boys in the Hood,
have been light hearted, humorous movies. Friday, Are We There Yet? Barbershop?
And I actually liked that side of the Cube as
an actor. You feel what I'm saying. He makes good movies.
(07:57):
He makes good, light hearted movies, right And I think
this right here. I think people get into place, man,
to where they don't want people to change, Like people
are very unacceptable change when it comes to music. It
seems like like they're not down with that. Like if
I think if you did a certain record, man, people
will look at you like you was crazy. You know
(08:19):
what I'm saying, If you did a Will Smith style record, man,
I think people will look at you like as who
lost his mind. I don't know if I would like
to see doing all records like that. You feel me what, Yeah,
but this is what I was gonna say. You've paid
your dues as an artists, an artist should be able
to do what they want to. That don't mean everybody
(08:41):
go accept it, right right, That don't necessarily mean everybody
gonna be an acceptance of it.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
But I don't think.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
I think sometimes these fans they say stuff and they
take it, they make things real personal to where you
almost got to address it.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
Well, some times, you, like I said it, sometimes motherfuger
might go too far and you may feel that me
there's always you know, turn the other cheap, be the
bigger person and all that shit. But sometimes a motherfuger
might just touch that motherfucking spot to where you feel like, oh,
just that going a little bit too far. I might
(09:19):
have to holler at on me or you go, or
anybody with an excessive opinion you know, yeah, you know what, brilliant,
that's just what it is. It's just a motherfucker's opinion, right.
But like I said, sometimes some people's opinions might be
a little too excessive and it might touch a nerve
(09:45):
especially I don't know, if you know, if you feel
confident about what you're putting out and what you're doing,
then you confident about it. Would you feel a certain
way if you didn't feel as confident about your pride
and the motherfucker was telling you, you know, some shit,
I'll steal nigga eel if you knew deep down that
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your shit wasn't that's popping as you would hope it
would be.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And now you're seeing people comment.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
And say certain things what you feel that's why because
you not as confident as the project as.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
You felt it would be. Well, this is what I say.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
I definitely think when you respond to something that you
already have something on your mind, right, Like let's say
you've just been getting bombarded with negative stuff all day
and the man's bus was just firebomb You see what
I'm saying. He probably didn't want to hear that shit
at the time, because the first thing you see when
you turn your thing on. I've had people to way
they felt like they could say certain things to me
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and just do it with no thing. But then I
go look at their page and see that they only
had maybe sixteen followers and they was following five thousand people,
and they just like losers. So it's like, I'm not
gonna respond to a loser, right, you don't hold no
significance over my life. Man, I think I've kind of
been past the point man that I allow people to
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live rent free.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
Inside my head, yeah, I hear, I hear that saying
a lot, you know, And I guess when you dealt
with the music business and you dealt with opt it,
when you dealt with in the music business that you
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deal with business and other bullshit shit don't always gonna
go your way, you know what I'm saying. It's not
gonna always go your way. So you have tomorrow how
to have thick skin, especially in this entertainment world of music, movies,
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you know, writing books, whatever whatever it is, and they
entertain feel right because directors and movie trump pedice can
put our movies spend twenty thirty forty million that mother,
we're gonna even make back fifteen twenty the first week.
So that looked at as a bomb, as a failure.
(12:17):
You're gonna have the writers criticize, right when there's a
bad movie or they think somebody acted back. You see
them go to the columns and the shit real quick
and be like, oh, this movie trying to suck give
me the three or four. The rating was real low
on it. People can voice their opinions, sot a do
(12:43):
so I guess, you know, in a sense, we have
to be able to You gotta have to pick skin,
you know what I'm saying, because not everybody gonna like
what I'll put out he gives me.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
And thus, when you open yourself.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
To public opinion by being in that spotlight, right, by
being in that entertainment world, you open yourself up to
rid of chule and comments and opinions, and you have
to be able to deal with that, right because if not,
you shouldn't be in that field.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Well, that was the other part I was gonna say
to I was gonna say to you know, que made
a comment to you know, go find your humor and
get out my business. I think when you decide to
release an album to the public, you kind of make
it everybody's business because somebody's gonna have an opinion, whether
that opinion is solicited or not.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know, I try my.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Best man to always be respectful about things, even though
even if it's something I may not particularly like. I
don't feel you have to actually bash somebody to disrespect
somebody to say, you know, give a casual observation on
an album. More peace of art, because all alreadience is
all subject if anyway right, something to me and you
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might not like it, might be twenty thousand other people
that like it. At the end of the day, the
only will he did hit me and told me he
wanted to watch you show down in Houston, and he
said it was packed. Man, he said it was a
It was a rocking ass show. And you know it
was fact. This dude filled the whole stadium, you know,
whole arena. He still can go out, man at fifty
six years old and feel the whole arena. Man doing classics.
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It's at the end of the day, man, I think
Cube didn't tell the hell he want to because it
ain't gonna it ain't gonna stop. And I think at
this point he just having fun.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I mean, you got to, uh, when you've been through
as as much as Cube has been through, as far
as the business is concerned, gip pop, the movie world,
being a hip pop artist, being a label, being a
movie producer, acting in movies, getting the scripts to act
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in other people's movies outside of your own. They can
in stride and when you have done as much as
Cube has done for West Coast hip hop and hip
hop in general, certain certain people we look to as
or heroes as far as sustaining on a legacy of
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what we loved as consumers and fans, because not only
a line artists. I'm a consumer because I buy shit.
I'm a fan because I love when I hear a
good song. So certain niggas have the right to you know,
and que I can do this shit because I started
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this shit.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
You get me. So if I feel like I want
to put out a record.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
And this is how the direction I want to go
and I want to clown and I want to do
a video where I'm mocking motherfuckers who say we should
be acting on aids, and we should because we always
go up against that with the newer generation and just
people in general not feeling like we should be rapping
(16:10):
or making music or whatever it is because for some
reason they want to restrict and they want to put
an age limit on hip hop, which is ridiculous because
no other genre of music does that to its artist,
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past or.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Path, praiser or even future.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
You want to record to you a hundred years old,
I'm pretty sure if you could record as an old
school pop artist, or if Dolly Parton wanted to go
out and put out a record, she could put out
a record, nobody would tell her.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Why don't you just sit at home and stop rapping?
Speaker 4 (16:53):
I mean, stop lake and country song you two motherfucking
old Nobody disrespects their appears outside of hippop. You actually
get disrespected as a legacy artist and hippop because it's like,
it's it's absurd for you to be putting out music
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to some people.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
And that's just some critics, you know.
Speaker 4 (17:19):
So you got to in one hand, you got to
laugh because the video was comical. But then in another hand,
you got to give a nigga a salute for standing
up to motherfuckers who feel like we should be hanging
it up when the mic is concerned. Who are you
(17:41):
to tell me? I am acting my age, motherfucker, but
I'm a I'm a clown, because what age is supposed
to be able to wrap the babies?
Speaker 3 (17:52):
They getn't. So you know, well, this is the thing,
right they I listened to the whole album. Here's some
songs I like on there. It's not like like the
thing Neil is Man, I think what people mission this
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huge music is not whack, right, I think he's just
fighting his own legiends, so to speak. Because you got
to remember, I heard Lethal Injection when it first dropped, right,
America's most wanted not not Lethal Ejection, but Death Certificate,
Death Certificate when it first dropped, And that was white
one of the best albums I've ever heard, right still
to this day.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Right, And I think Cube is fighting that. And I think.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
You got a whole generation of fans that don't remember
that Cube or right, they just no cue from being
Craig on Craig on Friday or you know what I'm saying,
the dude from a barbership, right, that's all they know
him from.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
They don't remember that that vicious ice Cube.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
So as long as we doing music, man, as long
as we're putting ourselves in front of people, people have
the right court of public opinion. Right if people go
say what they feel they can say is some of
these dudes is brutal. But I'll tell you this, half
the people that dropping their unsolicited in comments and their
opinions about shit don't even have decent lives. They mad
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at theyself but that's why they come so hard as
somebody else, right, somebody out to living their dreams of
doing what they're doing, because it's always it's a touch
of jealousy to it. Man, it's always jealousy.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't know what beyond people would saying negatives being
a hater. I don't understand the reasoning behind. And and
again these are people's own opinions to why a motherfucker
might even stray some shit like hang it up?
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Are are you a cute fan?
Speaker 4 (19:55):
Or are you just a motherfucker who popped in for
a minute to see because you've heard the ice tube
and the Legenderry ice tube and whatever, And maybe he
just popped in and was like, maybe I didn't.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Like the project.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
You know, we have to be careful in the way
we address our opinions because you fould the easily just said,
you know, hate you if you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
I'm a big fan.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
You know I really didn't might like this project too much,
but you know, I'm always down and I'm gonna always
support and you know I'll be waiting for the next one.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
You know, that would have been something that was not me.
That's the type of shit.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
I would try to say if I'm a genuine fan,
But if I'm just a dumb motherfucker and trying to
get attention by saying the negative shit on the motherfucker's page,
then I don't think I would even address it because
I know what the mother trying to do.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
You're trying to get more motherfucking likes and motherfucking.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
That's what that thing has been seen over a million times,
and that's what I'm saying. People that do stuff like
aren't real fans. So I've had people, We've all had
people that try to.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
You can't be a fan if you're telling the motherfucker
you need to hang it up. Like I said, maybe
this is just not your cup of tea on this project.
But my man has always put out significant music, so maybe.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
This one you didn't like.
Speaker 4 (21:37):
But there's a way to address that, and there's a
way to voice your opinion in the positive aspect to
where you not speaking click bait type of shit and
attention for motherfuckers you on the Oh look, this nigga
reached by Ice Fool responded to this nigga it that
made his century.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
You give me.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
This is the one thing I would say right, And
this is what I tell everybody, be careful singing them,
singling out the paters, and actually rewarding them for their behavior,
because when you respond to hater, you actually wordinator Hey,
if you're right, you acknowledging them right, and you letting
them know you bothered me. So I'm gonna have to
say something to you. And I'm pretty sure it's millions
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of people or thousands of people at least, who have
left positive comments on CUE, but he ain't probably say
none of them. Not Once you feel what I'm saying,
I think that we need to focus on the catch.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Well then or unless you do that still, then what
signals out the difference of that fan from the.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
Twenty others you give me? I mean the twenty million others.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
It's always the negative motherfuckers that stabbed out the boldest
and that you want to address because they saying, come
off the wall shit you feel mem Have you.
Speaker 3 (22:59):
Ever had anybody tell you that she was in height
you should hang the microphone up.
Speaker 4 (23:06):
Not in so many words, but like I said, I
still fit into that class of people feeling like, you know,
we should hang the micup at a certain aide. If
I had a person directly tell me, oh man, that
ain't it my nigga, you need to hang it up.
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I mean there's people who would turn around and when
you go, oh yeah, I'm getting ready to put out
a project.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
You see people who goes okay and or who tears
you get me.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's it's not that necessarily the motherfucking taint rap.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
It's just that.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Nigga.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
You you fit the you fit the age limit criteria.
You fit, you fit the uh you fit the motherfucker
with it. You know, you see the infomercials on TV
and when you get a.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Certain age, you get a break from your.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Insurance and shit, yeah, like you you're fitted to that class.
Now they feel like they feel like hip hop is
the young man's game. It's it's like I said, it's
outside of any other genre of music. Whether it's R
and B, whether it's pop, whether it's jazz, whether it's blues,
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whether it's country, whether it's motherfucking Asian, whether it's Puerto Rican,
whether it's Lexicon.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
It don't matter.
Speaker 4 (24:42):
It could be eighty and it's still putting out records
and if you have the significant fan base, it'll be
one hundred thousand motherfuckers that a big ass concert or
whatever whatever.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
They respect that hip hop is like.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
Hip hop is like sports, nigga, right, hip hop ain't
even like the drug game, because if you're able to
sustain in the drug game, you can look up and nigga,
you can beat fifty five sixty and still be balling.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
You can still be seventy balling pimping.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
You get me nigga out there with holes and cat
Daddy and the nigga who there kept his nose to
the motherfucking grind and ain't exposed, And just then, no,
nigga's nigga the generation of Kilo happers, you feel me?
But hip hop, Oh no, nigga, once you turn thirty five,
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you might as well start packing it up, because now.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Hip hop is looking to be the voice of the
young and angry. I believe in I think that people
that really preach agism, because that's what the deos, you know,
to tell somebody, hell, you too old to do something right.
I believe a certain among those people are rappers themselves.
(26:15):
I think only I've never heard an actual fan say, oh,
I don't listen to him because he's too old. I
just think people listen to good music and bad music.
You know, it's either good music or bad music, right,
I think people what they attracted to, right. And I
say that because I was and I'm not gonna get
this guy no kind of shine. And I saw this
(26:35):
guy the other day. He put a post and he
had ice huge video picture from the video of him
and face says, the baby's right and said, here's another
example of a man wasting a perfectly cut budget that
could have been spent on a young rapper out here
in La. What he could have took that money and
promoted the young rapper in La. And it's like kind
of like, dude, who are you to tell this man
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what to spend his money on.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Well, usually that comes from a motherfucker who's trying to
get into the business and they feel that they're hot
and they're the next up and coming thing, And why
spend money on this old school, last nigga when that
money could have been directed at me?
Speaker 1 (27:24):
But the talent just don't be there. It's a nigga.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's a gang of niggas who can rap, you feel
me can niggas who can rap?
Speaker 1 (27:34):
But can you create music?
Speaker 4 (27:36):
That's the whole difference between a lot of iconic artists,
and you know, no disrespect to my young generation because
they get theirs. And that's why I never have a
hatred or a haterithm for the young generation of music,
even though we on a different page with our shit
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that we're still trying to create. And not that a
nigga couldn't do that type of motherfucking shit, but what
I look like doing some shit that the twenty year
olds are doing.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
So I stay in my own lane because I feel.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
That I have solidified myself and have enough fan base
over the years and over the countries and states and
different continents that I can sustain putting out music. But
you've still got to put out some quality shit, now,
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you feel me, because the cards are triple stacked against
you as an iconic figure because you have to compete,
and so you have to at least put out shit
that's decent. If you put out shit that was significant,
I don't think you would get the negativity of AIDS
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as much as you would if your shit was of
high quality.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You get me.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Yeah, I'm gonna tell you this, though I hear that
argument all the time. Why don't y'all move out the
way and let the young people through. It's almost like
they begging, like, like, please stop making music, so somebody
would make something significant, make something to make someone want
to play your music. Because I'm gonna be honest with you,
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hip hop is on the decline for the first time
in fifty years.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Hip hop is fifty some years old, and we've dominated
hip We've dominated like music as a whole from the
on set, and it's starting to go down. And that's
because of the quality of the music. A lot of
these people are just making shitty music. Man, the music
is not no good. I'm saying that. I'm not an hater.
A lot of the music that these young kids making,
it's just not good music. A lot of it I
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wouldn't even classify as rat.
Speaker 4 (29:59):
Hey my the computer working right now. I'm about to
jump in, all right, yo, y'all. Yeah, there we go,
right there, there we go. We get Oh, you're on
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the phone, y'all. You see that dedication. You did it
from the phone till the computer came back to working.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Yeah, you don't speak. We all good.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
So that's what I say, man, it's the it's it's
just the significance of of how good your project is,
because you still got to put out some decent music.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
You feel me at the end of the day, you
you want to you you you're competing.
Speaker 4 (30:46):
You're still a competition, right, you're getting me, and so
you have to be able to compete. Not that you're
gonna be expected, not that you're gonna be expected to
do the forty.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Right, you ain't to do.
Speaker 4 (31:00):
The forty yard dash, right, come on, you're you're over
forty five years old. You're not expected to do the forty,
but you gotta at least do the twenty.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
You get me, and you get me. You gotta lead.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
If you can't do the motherfucking twenty, that I'll I'll
know what you do it here, because if you if
you run it, if you run it a twenty at
under my meiga, come.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
On, man, come on, help me out.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
And now you're gonna get the booze from the stands
and you're gonna get the all.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Man, what is this motherfucker doing here?
Speaker 4 (31:40):
You get me this nigga limping, he can't even do
a twenty And nigga ran like five ten yards a
nigga and just pooped out. And and that goes for
your material. Your material is, we're not expecting it to
be a forty you get me. Them young niggas is
running forties right now. But your shit gotta at least
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be a twenty man if you want to compete in
the in the section.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
And I will say that. And when I say these
young cats see a lot of people Kendrick is forty.
I believe Kendrick is almost forty if he's not forty already. Right,
I'm not talking about him, I'm not talking about the
j Coles. I'm not talking about the Drakes. Them dudes
don't careers. That's over ten years. They kind of the
OG's And at this point, right, a lot of this
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stuff is just not good because it's not being developed.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Right.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
And even if you did the side take a young
rapper me, you had a conversation about this, right. You know,
I got a record label and I'm doing some things,
and I'm really doing it for the love of the
music because there's really not a lot of money and
actually making the music. Now, you know, you got guys
out there. As a dude that made beats and that
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can produce, there's not really a reason for me to
go out there and really try to push my beats
because you got cats to selling beats online. I don't
know how to tell you, Lisa beat, but they leasing
beats online for twenty five dollars. Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
If some of that shit is fired, some more was fired.
So how do I compete with that?
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Do I go out and put my beats up on
beat Stars or one of these other sites and say, hey,
shoot me fifty dollars and you can have a license
for this.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Hell no, that's not even worth That's not worth doing, bro.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
And it's like they've just the value out the music
so bad now, man with I almost think it was
on purpose because the record companies making their money either way,
all of them got ownership and Spotify. Everybody from these
all these record labels are getting a piece of the
action right right. They play on the way just to
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take everybody kind of knock everybody of the loop.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
And I would say, like, you know, you got guys like.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Rock Marcy Now the Benny, the Butcher, those cats. That's
kind of selling the consume right now, and they ain't
making their money.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
If you're selling a product and it's product that people want,
people gonna find a way to get it.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right. That's with any ding right now.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
With with with the Internet and Google search and all
that other bullshit. Right, you can basically just request what
you want and if it exists, you get me, you
can buy it. So, you know, if niggas have a
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great social media presence, if niggas are putting out some
decent product of music that they feel consumers feel like
they want what they want, you get me. It's like
when you go out to eat, motherfucker you're gonna order.
When you're ordering something, you not ordering it because whatever.
You ain't ordering some shit because you don't like it, right,
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You ordering this shit because you like that shit. You
planning on fucking that shit up. You planing on cleaning
the plate. So and then there's times, you know, and
this is with consumers too. There sometimes you might want
to try some shit, right, you might hope it's good.
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I mean, it looked good. Right, this is a place
that you frequented it before. You know, you've never tried
this other product. So again, your shit got to be
good and if people want it, they're gonna be able
to get it. And it's just another way for us
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as artists to try to stand firm on believing in
ourselves and gambling on ourselves, right, Because if you gonna
let Spotify and all the mother places gamble on your
mother fucking income and your position in the hip hop game,
you might as well gamble and roll the dice yourself, right.
Speaker 1 (36:08):
So I might as well just put this shit up
on my own.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Site, and instead of making sixty cent, I might as
well make a full ten dollars and just hopefully push
the shit on my page or you know, whatever price
is a nigga pushing his product for, because.
Speaker 3 (36:26):
We're telling you right now, we ain't we selling for
way more than ten dollars.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Bro.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
I'm just saying in the aspect of, you know, of
what people gonna spend, a person donna spend whatever they
want to spend on what they want to have, whether
it's motherfucking ten dollars, whether it's one hundred dollars. My
aspect of saying, you're still making more money than you
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would make from Spotify pushing shit on your own on
your own platform, And that's what a lot of artists
are starting to do because, like you said, and inflation
has risen to get me and to press up a
CD and package it up and get it done and
all that. It's valuable to a true consumer. So you know,
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shit is the fans are willing to get what they
want to get. Yeah, the thing is right, you got
Cee these right now? Man, I would say, right now,
Vinyl is still expensive to make. Vinyl has always been
expensive to make. That's why vinyl costs went right exactly.
You have some people sell a vinyl for two hundred
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three hundred dollars, right, but finyl sales yup. People want
to buy them. All that stuff is looked at its
collector's items. Now, well, you know, going back to you
know ce Man, I personally want to see all the
OG's continue making music, right, even if it may not
be without necessarily like from them. You understand what I'm
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saying because it's okay to say you don't like something, right.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
You can definitely have an opinion of your likes or dislikes,
and people shouldn't take it personal because, like I said,
people just expect. And I'm not talking.
Speaker 4 (38:15):
About you know, whatever a new fan might expect, you
can't compete with, you know, what's going on in that
other realm of hip hop. I'm talking about someone who
has followed you or someone who has listened to your
music over the decades. You know, somebody who would go
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to that concert of Cubes, you get me. That's a
true fan, that's a true consumer. Because everybody in there
should recognize who Cube is, the work he's put out,
his position in hip hop, and they should.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
Again know the product they're getting.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
So those are true fans, and those are people who
are willing, and those are people who will contribute and
go out and buy an ice Cube record. I'm one
of them. Yeah, So think about that side of the record.
You know, I download the ship and I'll listen to it.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
You give me.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Everything is not gonna be to Everything is not going
to be the people's liking. True fans, and true fans
are gonna love what he puts out because they just
respect the craft of ice Cube and.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
What he does.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
Some people who are just passing through might have an
opinion about what they like and don't like.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
You know, one thing Willie De told me was, well,
Cube did the show on him, Houston. You know how
to say even sort of lights to the good your
blunt and it read ice Cube's a pin.
Speaker 4 (39:59):
He had a blint floated over the arena, bro right,
like right, the only traces on the road with them.
You know he built them two cars. Mm yeah, he
built them two low riders. He built the uh, the
good day Lowrider, and he built the boys in the
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hood Lowrider.
Speaker 3 (40:22):
That's due shout up to shout out to the homie Chris.
But you gotta just think about this, right, Cube obviously
don't need the money, right, And the reason why bring
up the PLMT not only because that's built like I
would have been hyped if I have saw some ship
like that the show, right, But to put those blimps
in the sky costs a lot of money, bro, If
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I'm not mistaken, it's more than twenty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
You got a Cube, it's up his his you know,
he's he's he's a good showman.
Speaker 1 (40:56):
He puts on good showman ship. Oh he put through,
he puts.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Because I'm gonna tell you, young people, I've seen a
lot of y'all perform. It's some of y'all to get busy.
I ain't gonna go into that right now. Some of
y'all get busy, but a lot of y'all really need
to work on y'all stage presence out here, dudes rapping
over the tracks, just standing up there kind of like this.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
Hey, the song is going on. They just standing up there, just.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Kind of just just doing whatever right up. Is still
one of the best performers in hip hop, still one
of the best performers in hip hop by far. And
for him to go out and spend the money on
a blimp, right, that means he's doing this for the love,
because that means he probably spent the significant portion of
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his money, you feel what I'm saying, just to put
that show on. And I remember Willie de Make sing
that he did the show before down there, and Q
kind of operated at a loss on the show, like
because he just likes being out like this a dude.
They just love hip hop, bro, Like he for sure
don't need it no more at this point.
Speaker 4 (42:02):
I mean, if you in the position to where you
can put together your shows.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
And you can go out on the road and do
twenty thirty dates and give people that that reminiscent feeling
of yester Year's hip hop, and especially with.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
Somebody like Ice cue Cube, we've traveled with through time
as far as his music is concerned. So He'll take
you all the way back to once at a time
and the projects to something he put out last week,
and that shows longevity.
Speaker 1 (42:42):
In hip hop.
Speaker 4 (42:43):
Not no mixtapes, No disrespect to mixtapes and whatever people
do to get on and whatever. But this as a
dude who has sustained a career over decades. As far
as him concerned, hip hop been around fifty years. A
lot of us have been putting out music for maybe
thirty thirty five forty years. You're getting me at a
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time where hip hop was frowned upon and you got
banned for a way you talked and what you look
like and references you made, which is all open, open
door now.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
You know, it's like dudes in zail too. It's just
like motherfuckers had to go through the rough shit for us.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
To be able to sit at the front of the
bus today.
Speaker 1 (43:32):
You get me.
Speaker 4 (43:34):
You had to go through those rough times, just like
our ancestors when it came to you know, eating certain
places and drinking out of fountains and shit like that. Man,
we we went through hell. People hated us, you know,
like people mouffuckers was banning. You couldn't get played your
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videos wouldn't get played.
Speaker 1 (43:57):
Motherfucker's would be out there using your.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Motherfucking references and your lyrics as quotes, and their motherfucking campaigns,
and motherfuckers out there running over your CDs that I
had an episode where motherfucking mentioned me, and and and
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and saying.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
That I was a negative influence countings.
Speaker 4 (44:26):
Most wanted whatever. It's what you had to go through
to be able to.
Speaker 1 (44:33):
You today. Motherfuckers today gotta deal with none of that.
Speaker 4 (44:36):
They walking well, you could be the roughest, toughest criminal
asses motherfucker on the planet and they walking with open
arms through the doors.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
You know it was you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (44:47):
So times change, right, Times have changed for a lot, but.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
It's still a struggle. Still.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
You're still generation for sure. Paid dudes are early generation. Hey,
let me ask you this, a did you feel bad
when you saw the moff of the room over your CDs?
Speaker 4 (45:04):
I ain't feel bad about it. Shit, And you had
to pay for that ship, so it didn't matter what
your record sal wasn't like you got the ship for free.
You know what I'm saying. You you still have to
go spend the church's money to be.
Speaker 1 (45:18):
Able to go run their motherfucking's over.
Speaker 4 (45:22):
So shit, if you will take money out your budget
where you could be using it for something positive, you
want shit, I ain't doing nothing and you've dumb. Motherfuckers
don't understand. That's how the world work, right. They see negativity. Shit,
they wanted more. Now I really want to go listen
to it. You steam rolling the ship and banning it
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and saying that this motherfucker can't be played.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
Oh, I got to go get this ship now.
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Man, you the work man. That's crazy. Man, that's crazy.
And guess if just motherfuckers just feel like I don't know, dude,
do do you know? Like people tell you, I don't
know if that fits your age the age description? Do
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do do?
Speaker 1 (46:17):
Do? Do?
Speaker 4 (46:18):
Beg's or young thugs or young homies tell they ol
g's as quick it's time to start banging, or it's
time to get out the neighborhood if they're still there.
A lot of niggas move away and do that. But
I wonder if that's an issue you getting me the
young niggas in the hood, are y'all telling or they're
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still old g's left around in the hood and are
y'all forcing them to get out the hood, because what
it's a bad influence because old niggas are still representing
the block.
Speaker 1 (46:54):
I don't think it's no more hood at all. Man.
Speaker 3 (46:56):
They seem like they're tearing all that down. But this
is what they say. You box you on Wine eight.
M C eight is not considered a negative influence, but
rather a complex figure who draws on his difficult upbringing
for his music. While his music often portrays the realities
of street life, which can include violence and gangs, he
has stated he used the rap to tell stories and
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does not glorify street life. He is also an active
member of the Crypt gang, but as also are for
critical perspectives on the dangers of gang culture, particularly regarding
his influence. As they say about you, they say that
she was a storyteller, bro that she was a good figure
of the music.
Speaker 4 (47:36):
I've never tried to be a negative influence to because.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
Let me tell you this, it was my choice to
join a gang. I think have to.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
We all lived in poverty at one point. I grew
up in Georgian You get me. That's a that's that's
a bad start right there. Not to say that Compton
was bad because I tell motherfucker's all the John my child.
The upbringing was lovely and I didn't know. I didn't
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know what poverty was. Even though we was in poverty,
I didn't know what that shit was. We stayed in
the house, we had a vehicle to go back and forth,
and we didn't start. The lights was always on. You
getting it was was gang baying and dope dealing and
shootouts throughout the neighborhood. But that was a part of
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growing up in coming gin.
Speaker 1 (48:39):
You're getting me.
Speaker 4 (48:40):
It was great Christmas parades and motherfucking Christmas is in
the neighborhood, and getting getting bikes.
Speaker 1 (48:48):
And skates, and.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
Being able to go to places like Louis Bergers and
get a chili burger and fries special if my bringing
on Burgers, and just not having to go through the bullshit,
you know, not saying it was bullshit, but whatever mAbs
was gonna come up with the meal for that evening.
Nothing was better than getting a burger and fried special. Sure,
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so life was great. Trips to the auntie's house on
the weekends, motherfuckers out there getting loaded. We in the
cousins rooms, playing the video games or watching TV or
you know what. I'm saying, cousins come over our house
on the weekend, We go over the house and shit
like that. Man, life was lovely, but you know, we
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lived in a gang infestic niggas was drive by shooting
and niggas was selling shame and you know, and different
neighborhoods were serving different narcotics.
Speaker 1 (49:51):
And your auntie you.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
Lived in in Blood neighborhood, your other auntie lived in
Blood neighborhood, and you starting to claim crip shit and
life started to get serious.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
But like I said, who knew. That's that's just what
it was. You feel me.
Speaker 3 (50:11):
So at any point when you was doing them CD
when you was younger, man, she would still be doing
that stuff today.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Man, I didn't know. I didn't know what.
Speaker 4 (50:26):
I'm one of them type of motherfuckers who I try
not to think so far in the future. Now I'm
I'm worried about what happened next week.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
You get me. That's it.
Speaker 4 (50:42):
If I can sustain and make it through next month,
then everything is good. And then I go from there.
Then I go from there. You can dream big and
you can walk things as ship. Oh, in five years,
I'm gonna do this and you you don't know what
God's gonna do to him, you feel and you have
no clue what you've got.
Speaker 1 (51:02):
Really, if I can wake.
Speaker 4 (51:05):
Up tomorrow, then I'm dealing with tomorrow and I'm gonna
do whatever. Nothing's planned, you feel me, unless unless a motherfucker, Hey,
you gotta meet next week, or you got a doctor's
appointing the next week, or oh I gotta go to
football practice. You feel me that type of shit. But
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other than that, you take it as it comes. You
feel me because nothing is everything that's unexpected. You can
say next week you're finla, go do some shit, and
next week come you not doing it?
Speaker 1 (51:42):
You feel me. Time is for sure not guaranteed. Man.
Speaker 3 (51:48):
There have been interviews that we were supposed to have, man,
and I might have delayed on the sick. You know what,
I'm gonna push this back in the subject dies. You
know that's happened a couple of times. Man, And really,
I don't think we should take time for.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
Granted, No you can't. You gotta take every day and
stride and it is what it is. Enjoy every day.
And it's okay to dream and have plans, but you
know everything is unexpected. Everything you know, life can throw
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you a curve ball. So I wake up tomorrow and
we're gonna do what we gotta do tomorrow. You feel me,
And I want Friday. I'm gonna do what I gotta
do on Friday. And that's how it works.
Speaker 1 (52:42):
Yeah, And I think man shut out to Cube. I
wouldn't mind.
Speaker 3 (52:46):
That's on my bucket list to actually be able to
sit down with Cube man and we have a conversation
with him one day, just about this career as the whole,
you know, because he's done some mother, he's a lection.
You know, a lot of people throw that term lex
a round with these definitely a legend and they brought
good music to the coach and it's done a lot
of things for the culture.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Man.
Speaker 3 (53:06):
I think if people go back and actually look at
people's body of work and look at the impact on
the culture, I think they're handled. Handle these people with
a new form of reference. You know. I think somebody
like you definitely deserves our respect. I think he I
don't think people should be allowed to just come at him,
tell him to put the microphone down, Like, who the
hell does that do? Tell him to put the mic
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down up?
Speaker 4 (53:29):
And like I said, sometimes you're gonna run into people
who just and and and most of the time they're nobodies, right,
They're not always a newbody. And most of the time
those are people who are seeking attention and want to
just be seen or heard.
Speaker 1 (53:46):
So those are the people we you know, we we.
Speaker 4 (53:49):
Let him have they they they five minutes of fame.
You get me, go ahead, go ahead and clown and
talk shit. And then after that, I'm just gonna delete
you and block you, and You'll never be able to
make another comment again. So get your get your little
spotlight right quick, be a hater, get your little spotlight,
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because I'm not gonna even respond negatively to you. After
you get through rattling raving, I'm just gonna delete you
and block you.
Speaker 3 (54:18):
And now that the problem is solved, well, you know
what the thing is, right, I don't even give them
that much. Heyduke, just block round block and I don't
got so swift of that ship man.
Speaker 1 (54:31):
Block or it's easy.
Speaker 4 (54:35):
I mean it's it's it's easier than sitting up, giving
a person a public platform and going back and forth
with a motherfucker. You ain't gonna never see in your lifetime.
You ain't gonna never run across this motherfucker. They're ratting,
they're raving, they're doing all this shit, and most of
the time it's it's just for like I said, it's
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all for the sake of a motherfucker trying to get
BA their glory on for a minute.
Speaker 3 (55:02):
Well, I remember, if you remember brought one time, there
was no access to artists like that. You had to
actually write a letter and if you could reach the
actual artists right you didn't have the way you can
just go send somebody a DM or go on somebody's
posts and just say some old fucked up shit.
Speaker 1 (55:21):
Man.
Speaker 3 (55:21):
I think that we need to start giving the artists,
need to start bringing that mystique bag and not giving
everybody access.
Speaker 4 (55:28):
I think that what you do well, I used to
always tell only chill. You can't make yourself accessible to everyone.
That's why I've torn down and the social media a lot.
I would used to be on there every day checking shit.
I can't even tell you the last time and before
I posted the album cover, shit that I've been on
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Instagram in months, months could roll by, and I don't
even think the look on the Instagram. Most you know
go on Facebook and little bit just because a lot
of you football platforms on Facebook. So other than that, man,
you get worn out with with with with social media.
Speaker 1 (56:14):
You get worn out.
Speaker 4 (56:16):
You don't know who's genuine and hopefully you know you
attract these people and people follow you because they're genuine fans.
Speaker 1 (56:26):
But you have to be careful with shit, man, and
so I chill.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
You can't make yourself as accessible like you can't go
to everybody's shit, You can't pull up at every function,
you can't do interviews with everyone. You can't go on
everybody's podcasts or do beats for everybody or do versus
for everybody, because you're burying yourself out. And then motherfuckers
(56:53):
be like this motherfucker again, you give me? Who wants
to hear this neck?
Speaker 1 (56:58):
Again? You get so you can make yourself as.
Speaker 4 (57:01):
Accessible to everyone as you think you should because of
the way social media has pushed the line of accessibility
for the common person to be able to hit up
a celebrity or or a musician or whatever. It's open season.
(57:22):
You get me.
Speaker 1 (57:24):
This is my last question for you. I'm gonna see
if you really answer. Do you think that there are
some ogs who should probably put the microphone down.
Speaker 4 (57:35):
There's a lot of OG's who have already put the
microphone down. There's a lot of people that you don't
see put me out music today, and I'm not gonna
name names, but there's a few. And then there's a
few who feel like they still have the ambition to
create good music because of what they're being forced to
(57:59):
witness as far as uh, what they have created and started.
You know, there's a lot of niggas I look at
as OG's and hip hop who could still put our music,
you get me. I would still I still listen to you,
I still listen. I'd still listen to some iced tea.
(58:19):
I'd still listen to some Chubb Dy. I'd still listen
to some Easy if he was alive, you feel me. Uh,
there's a lot I still listen to some dubs. Some
still fie is still putting our music, you give me.
There's certain niggas that I would still be true fans
(58:44):
of putting out music. And then there's some dudes who
attempt and just not don't have it anymore, you get me, And.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
So they might have to consider putting the mic down.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
Yeah, And ain't nothing wrong with that either, man, y'all
make sure, Matt y'all Walton, get the ice Cube album. Man,
go streaming. Man, it's man up. It's actually in a
bad album. I'll actually listen to it. It got a
few dough tongs on there, but more than a few.
It's there's different cubes in a different place, and we
gotta stop it. Man Cube fifty six years old. No,
we can't expect him to be Cube. That was twenty one.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
And music music is gonna go different. Whatever you did
in your teens and twenties, you're not expected to still
be doing in your forties and fifties. So thus you
have to evolve with the age and what and what
is expected now. People are still gonna expect you to
give them some of those true songs that they grew
(59:48):
up with. But you have to be able to adapt
and overcome. You feel me, Yeah, you know, speaking of
elves before we go, you know, we go ahead this
album release party. When you think we do nothing release,
he's party of a listener party. Well, yeah, November party maybe, yeah, November.
I should be done mixing in November.
Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
I know.
Speaker 4 (01:00:09):
I said I was gonna try to drop the record Halloween,
but we're getting a little more interest in the record.
I know some people might say who cares, And then
there's some people who go, yeah, do what you do,
keep going. But yeah, for true fans and for a
couple of people that we know, managers and whatever, we're
(01:00:30):
gonna just put together a little listening session. Niggas come
through smoke, have a little sip, and I'm gonna bang
the record. Like I said, we had about forty songs
right now, all forty gonna go on the project. No,
but we're gonna We're gonna put the dopest songs out,
maybe eighteen songs, and then we're.
Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Gonna go from there. Yeah, we gonna help, but we
go with lost some general public people to come, but
not a whole lot of them. Just twol fans that
you know will do.
Speaker 4 (01:01:05):
Special invite you know, a motherfucker after text code a
number or something to a code or inbox whatever, a
special email and for you know, maybe have them answer
some questions or see if they true fans, or see
what's the oldest project they have of m C eights.
(01:01:29):
How you know, what's their collection looking like. And then
those who heard it, that's dope right there. So y'all
flood against the Chronicles page, y'all page. We want to
see y'all, We want to see them pictures.
Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
And with the oldest project you got, I wonder if
anybody else they gotta got asset. That'd be crazy if
they got what was that? That was a blue cassette,
wasn't it? Yeah, the OZ Blue cascipt. I'm gonna see
if some one of y'all got the OZ blue cassette.
On that note, we out here, We check y'all out
next week. Well, that concludes another episode of Against the
Chronicles pidcast. Be sure to download the iHeart app and
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