Kxng Crooked & Geechi Gotti Go In On........

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
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(00:30):
five star rating the comment all rights, Agney, what's any y'all?

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Man? Everything good, man, everything good on my end man
of playing?

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, man, we got some real rapping ass niggas in
you to night. Man. We got a bean crook and
the only gee you got he you know gee she
got it man. He rolled in through the streets.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Lamb yeah yeah, yeah, yeah man, I'm hitting these corners.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Man, So you know, y'all excuse me if y'all you know,
I mean you hear any sirens and all that.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
It's so good. I like the authenticity height. Yeah, coming
in here in a minute. His son just came home.
You know, ain't got a son wan to play on
football man eight son is pretty nice too. He made ESPN,
He made the future just PM play the game on
clips last.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Year oh sure, Hell yeah, And that's dope. Hell, that's
that's Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:23):
Hell yeah, you're doing this thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
I feel y'all been seeing these lists, right, yeah, you
know Complets been putting off their little list, man. Then
the one on in the one fat Nigga to be
getting niggas. Man, he put his list up with the homie's.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Name, Jihn. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Dejohn.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
He put his little list out. Do you think these
niggas be clowning when they do these lists?

Speaker 1 (01:50):
I'm gonna let krust Dog fires, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
you know, I think they had a couple of suspicious
names in there, you know what I'm saying, to get
people engaged and to talk about it and bus and fight,
you know, because the more engagements the better. You know,
that's the more the more intentions the complex as a brand.

(02:12):
For instance, you know, so they might twish somebody that
they know, damn well, don't belong there, just throw the
conversation off. Or they might arranged it in a way
the outsiders of the culture arranged it, you know, and
who you know those lists, you know, like just let

(02:32):
me know how far they are await for really pops
Yeah for real, And I think, like you say, they
throw a lot of light. Sometimes you throw some random
names in there, but they're also I think some people
just not super in tune with the culture. And then
on the other flip side of it is the words
that they're using when you saying light top rapper, where

(02:54):
you saying top M Steve when staying top artist. All
that shit is different because when you get to saying
light rapper and MC and you think about bars list
would be way different. But when you're saying like maybe
artists and maybe talking about their main street success, and
then this didn't make sense for some of the people
to be in that position. You know what I'm saying,

(03:14):
think it straight. Still you might switch them numbers up
a little bit.

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yeah, well, you know what, they should come out and
say that then, because when I see some ship, like
I think Cardi would be a cool artist. I think
Cardi be do her thing, you know, carry being dressed
like a motherfucker me and talking about that. She she'll start,
you know. But when you see something, when you see
you know, the top a long time her over rock
him with some ship like it looks like.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
As a fact, that's a fact, you know what I'm saying.
And I think that's the problem.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
They don't they don't specify what criteria that they using
when they coming up with these lists.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know what I'm saying. I think a criteria like
a it needs to be a you know, like a
global criteria that people can you know, can see that
they're using that they coming up with this ye with
real for real, Yeah, they thought about that. But what
they did was they said, if we do that, because
they do list some some you know, hey, cultural impact
on the culture since mainstream success. Sometimes they list a

(04:14):
couple of things, but they rather leave it mysterious because
that caused more conversations. If you're super to the points
and people look at it and say, oh, okay, I
can agree with that, they're gonna keep scrolling. Yeah, So
they have to make it to where everybody gonna engage
with it and have an opinions, so it could go viral,

(04:36):
you know what I mean. The list more thing, the
viral like aspects what you see. Yeah, they's doing it
for clicks more so than like being truthful. Yeah exactly,
and they getting what they want. You know what I'm saying,
because when you go in those complex office and broke.
You don't see a lot of us. Let's keep it real,

(05:00):
you know what I'm saying. So so we know what's
poppings and look at just look at the history of them.
They lost, They lost two of the biggest dudes in
the hip hop media. State academics. Academics a joke, but
they lost in there because they understand what they really have,
you know what I'm saying. So it's like, we don't

(05:23):
got ship to do when we get online, but talk
and have fun and complain and argue and debate, and
they're just giving us to do. You know what I'm saying.
They don't give them what complexity. We know that for show.
That's a fact, for sure. Fact.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I don't know why motherfuckers give them so much. Why
do you think people give them list so much validities?
When they put out a list, it does get it
does so viral, it gets spread around, it makes his rounds.
You know, we for damn sure still talking about this much.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
For yeah, I think because I mean everybody looking for
whether they say it or not, a lot of people
be looking for some type of validation or some type
of recognition for what they do.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
So a lot of times, you know, when you just
see somebody that they do got a platform, they putting
out a list.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
If it's so if you number one, two, three, four, five,
of course you gonna fill away. You're gonna like it.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
You know what I'm saying, Number fifty, you might be upset,
but like you still be glad to be acknowledged. So
it's gonna be a talking point because you're gonna have
some people that's that's reposting it because they happy with
the position. And you're gonna have people that's that's mad
they not on it. Are you gonna have people that's
mad at the number they is? So it's gonna it's
like you said, it's sparking the conversation. So it's just
enough to where it's like, even if people don't care

(06:38):
about the platform, they still care about the argument's sake
of it. You know what I'm saying, Like you feel
me like it's gonna be somebody that's like, man, what you.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
Mean, Uh, Tupac is number one. He ain't from the
West coast. So now you got that argument. You know
what I'm seeing? What you want Doctor Dre is number
such as such, Man, he didn't write this, he didn't
write that, you know what I mean. So now you
get these type of arguments that starts spark than up because.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
They knew that they you know, I like he said,
they knew what they was doing.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, I think definitely, man, and I ain't gonna stay
on it for too long because that ship is kind
of old. I think people like Gang do kind of
have a point. I think, you know, get is busy.
I think you know, I think shut is busy.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
I think when you, I think when you uh, when
you when you when you're dealing with when you're dealing
with these artists I like better, like I like with
Game doing the list I see, I salute that. I
think sometimes seeing it from the piers and the rappers,
you get more respected though, you know what I'm saying.
You know what I mean, just hearing their perspective, whether
niggas agree with they listen or not, it's still be
dope when you see somebody like Gang take the time

(07:40):
out and main fifty rappers that he felt like was dope,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Yeah, But let me ask you all this now if
a mother fellas don't write his reps, should he be
called the best? Same thing? Because I've come from a
certain school of thought when it come to that.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Nah, yeah, I mean, I don't think you could be.
I don't think I mean I think you could be
a dope or just like you know what I'm saying,
the artistry of it, knowing how to perform it, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
But if you I think, if you're gonna say I'm
I fucking the best rapper and best MC like a
motherfucking that, like lyricists and all that, when you start
breaking it down and who got more boards and like, nah,
you can't put you can't put dudes who didn't write
they raps over niggas who really pin in that ship.

Speaker 1 (08:18):
That's just my opinion. You know what I'm saying. Our
second that offinis dog. Listen, bro. That's why I don't
talk too much. You know what I'm saying, Because I've
been in these studio sessions for thirty years, the teenagers,
and I know who writing and who ain't. And that's why.
And I ain't here to be the police about that,

(08:40):
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
But the fact I just I just kicked back. But
I already know.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's why. I just I don't even say nothing. I'm like, dog,
I see, I see Hella that list be haunted. It's
Hella ghosts on them lift you feel me, Hella ghosts
on them list. So I just I just get back
and then they be having to put me somewhere near
the bottom. I've been pushing my own pin the whole time. No,

(09:06):
that's push my pin for niggas on the legs.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
So for niggas that's in the top ten on the list.

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yo. Yeah, imagine pushing the imagine right show for niggas
that is getting rated higher than you and you all.
So that's why that's why I mean, I don't write
all this ship of course you know what I'm saying.
But I have been in but you've been here. But
you've been here, You've been able to be of a
few dudes pins, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

(09:40):
so it's I I feel like I'm still old school.
If you if you push your own pins, we can
have a lyrics conversations. If you don't, we can have
the hardest conversation. Yes, plenty of people who I love
they don't write, but the way they deliver it, and
maybe they vocal songs, it's it's ill, you know what

(10:01):
I'm saying. Yeah, like we you know, we know Doctor
Dre don't write all his raps, Yeah, but he sounds
ill delivering his rap.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
So end think Drake can't write a rap if he
had to.

Speaker 6 (10:17):
Yeah, yeah, that's what people don't and needs to major
beat because we got we got that out there too.
He can make beat bro, like I think they want
to discredit our goats, our legends.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
They want to do definitely, But you know what, No,
that's all good.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Well you know what though, Man, I'm gonna tell you
you take somebody like Snoop, right, Snoop and mentally don't
write all his own stuff, not no And I think
that's because Snoop where he is now history he too
doing TV shows, going on the road, doing this and
next you know, he's not got an album. But I think.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Snoop still you can still, you know.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Put fire on a motherfucker if you wanted to. You
feel what I'm saying, if you had to, man, I
think you both.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Snoop wrote almost half of the Chronic Bro, the first
Chronic That's what I'm saying. Snoopers do so, so it's like,
all right, he getting in there with songwriters. Like when
you get to icon status and you like Marvick Gay
and all these dudes, you got all these boat toown writers.
You know what I'm saying. I'm sitting around you. They
that's what they do. You get to the to a

(11:30):
point where you might have a room full of writers
coming up with ideas because it's a lot of pressure
on you since you are a global superstar. There's a
lot of pressure on that one mind to come up
with hell of material, especially that's gonna be successful. So
they go ahead and they throw you in the room
with a lot of writers. And I don't got no

(11:52):
problem with that, Like you know what I'm saying, And
I like, how honest Snoop is, Like SNOOPID tell you
straight up, Oh I didn't write that.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
You don't know what I'm saying. That's why you gotta
give him a pass. Dog because Snoop and say I
didn't write that. Like everybody know bad Luck rope.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
I want to rock.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
You know what I'm saying. I think bad Luck broke.
I want to rock, right, But it was frenzy about
the rep shit. He is dog, you gotta have some
starr pa because the bad luck would have put I
gotta rock out on his own. It wouldn't have did
with Snoop stuff there. Budget. Yeah, So you can't just
you can't never just pready dog. You can't never just

(12:30):
preaty dog on what you do.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Nah. Hell nah hell And like he said, Nigga's no
dog for pinning that shit back in the day. You
know what I'm saying for motherfuckers shilling now and now
Nigga doing bigger records where it require all that, like,
motherfucker that that's different, you know what I'm saying. Like,
but like you know, we're talking like you say, like
like a motherfucker that just known for not having that,
not having no type of pin Like I'm not gonna

(12:52):
put them in front of some of them called as
mcs that we know that really can get in front
of that mic and just you know, you know, really
just rips ship up. Let me ask you this, bro,
Sometimes I see rumors getting spread about people in the
battle rap world that don't write their own rounds. Is that?

(13:13):
Is that any truth to that? Because I always thought
all the battle rappers on all they they ship.

Speaker 3 (13:18):
Shout un too.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, nah, definitely, man, you know what I'm saying, like
like it's a lot of battles that's doing their thing.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
I don't get a twisted that that's really cold. But
it definitely be rumor circulating around that motherfuckers be having
ghost riders and it be motherfuckers helping them and you know,
having uh people coming up with their biggest punch lines
and their biggest hate makers for them. You know what
I'm saying, ship like that.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Real for real, that's crazy who were getting the ship
wrote for them? Trying to go by No, I'm just
saying I want to know, Hey, look the Cold parties,
if I knew, I really expose they as to like yeah,
such and such reabity.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know they don't want to like, hey, they don't
want me to find out righting them.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
You know what, you don't.

Speaker 5 (14:00):
Look, I just heard, I ain't seen, I ain't got
no proofs.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
I can't put no names with no niggas. But when
I battled a Chilla Jones, if the battle ain't even
on YouTube, it's on the U r L TV app.
But when I battled Chilla Jones. He said something that
was similar to what Crow just said. He was like, like,
imagine being watching two of your favorite battlers uh on
on like on like the main stage and they and

(14:24):
they rapping, and they both rapping the ship you wrote
for him, Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
So you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
So he had a board seeing he he done ghost
rote for two dudes.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
That was like the headline before when they saying ship
that he's saying for both of them, you know, so
you know that that's how big it go. You know,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
And you know, one thing I do want to ask
you touly off the subject of this of this rap shit,
this conversation. We haven't so Ringmys really left pet for
a battle reference if that one Nigga's a better reference.
He's really a better reference.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Yeah, he battled somebody recently.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
Yeah you know the old boy that really left fat for.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, easy to
block captain.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Easy to black captain. Yeah I think I think.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Yeah yeah, hell yeah man that battle wow man, yeah,
probably so, but he had come back, I know, got
he lit his hends up dog and battle rappers with
ghost writers. That ship is fucking crazy, bro, Like she's
think of business. Now everything is a business dog.

Speaker 3 (15:35):
So if that's the case, crook, you might well expand
on your portfolio and start writing niggas some braces and
start writing some prices for niggas.

Speaker 5 (15:43):
I mean, I know some battle rappers that say they
goes right for for for for for songs and all
that too.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Though, you know what I'm saying, there's definitely a lot
of battle rappers that say that they done wrote records
for for artists, because you know, that was one of
the stigmas they used to always say that battle rappers
can't make music and ship like that.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
You know what I'm saying like.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
That, You know what, I am mad that I'd be
mad if I found out certain niggas had somebody else
like that one nigga entertaining this hell, what's that nigga
from Philly's name? To be well, his mom is a
fat stanky hole. Did you saying a little stupid ship
like that? What's that nigga's name? One nigga brings three
niggas three.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Somebody's writing no solo ship.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
Got a swabber? Yeah, that's the back now.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
I think Solo coming up with that on his own show.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Is hard man. You like the Hey, you like the
humorous ship?

Speaker 3 (16:41):
I still I like the humors ship when niggas get
up the bag niggas and yeah, yeah, whatever happened, Whatever
happened with that battle with you, crook?

Speaker 5 (16:51):
You was supposed to battle did?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
It didn't go down. It ended up like this business
falling through or something. It just didn't happen. Yeah, it
fell apart. The company that was putting it on. They
fell apart when they company was built on crypto. And
when crypto crash, they crashed. So all this shit fell apart.
No more bag, no more nothing, ye saying? The crazy

(17:16):
shit is that? Shit? Is? That?

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Shit?

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Is not easy? Battle rapping is not easy for a songwriter,
you know what I'm saying. A songwriter get up there
and try to rap acapella, but he still sound like
you hear a beat in his head, you know what
I'm saying. And that ain't ain't how you do it.
And I'll be watching these songwriters. They don't understand that
the mechanics for battle rap, you know what I mean,
So they be sounding crazy when they get up there

(17:40):
sometimes you know what I'm saying, Like like niggas be
thinking they hearing the beat in their head or something.
You feel me, Yeah, he sounding real crazy on the
battle rap stage. I like to me battle rappers like
doing Broadway theater, you know what I mean? And and
and rappers like doing a movie. You know what I'm saying,
That director say cutting you the scene over and all

(18:01):
that where you on the stage, on that big stage.
It ain't no cut you got you gotta go. It's
a it's a gladiator sports dogging for sure. That's why
I salute you. Get you because I remember several years
in a row people were saying you was the top battler.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
No, for sure, do you know what that being?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
For the West? I've always got to back up and
look at the West. Even though I'm hip hop all around,
I'm West Coast first, sure, sure, and I understand the
fight it is people to push their pen on the West.
They don't like to give a lot of credit to
lyricism on the West Coast. So career for what you

(18:50):
was doing, you gave us all the bragging rights in
the world.

Speaker 5 (18:55):
No, that's a fact, and that's how I used to
go into the battles.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
You know what I'm saying. I went into the battles
with that type of tip of Mushulders like man, like
I know they they don't think, you know what I'm saying.
I'm coming from com thing. You know what I'm saying,
I'm banging. They like, Man, this dude, he's just Finna
coming here with ABC boars. He can't you know what
I'm saying. Ain't Finna beat nobody in this shit, you
know what I'm saying. So I used to go in
there with that tipple mushore, Like now I gotta go
in here and really represent man, really put it off,
you know what i mean, put off for the coast

(19:19):
and really make sure you know what I mean. I'm
stepping on next when I'm in the building, like you
know what I'm saying, and putting all heavy boards, you
know what i mean, like submit my legacy of course,
but also knowing that, like you know, I'm coming from,
you know the background, all these legends before me that
probably didn't do it necessarily through the you are real ranks,
but like you know what I'm saying, MC's like yourself,
Snoop Dogg, all that you do is you know what

(19:39):
I mean, like was battling, was rapping, you know what
I mean to like in.

Speaker 5 (19:42):
The same sense, have to go to New York and
get proved in the same way.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
You know what I mean. I have to do this.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
It was just in a different type of way, you
know what I mean. You still have to prove yourself.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Like Nigger, just think you was dope until you went
over there and you had to sing with you probably
being a part of Slaughterhouse at the time. It's like, man,
I got a rap with Joe and Joe. Well, I'm
I'm the Long West Coast Nigue. I gotta prove I
can I can rap with niggas. You know what I'm
saying on the rails. So you know the same ship
for sure? Sure? For sure? Yeah, Bro, you did that.
Yeah they all do that over there. Dog. When I

(20:12):
was on Death for a Records, we did High ninety seven.
We came out after the interview. The whole dobby was
packed with niggas that wanted the battle. You know what
I'm saying. You could you could do ninety two three
to beat bag in the day over here, you could
promote your ship. You get in your car you go
home over there, it's a. It was a. The whole
building was full of rappers that wanted to battle whoever

(20:37):
was up, whoever was there from the West coast. So
that's when I learned exactly. I called corrupt too after
that night because I was eating niggas up. But it
was this one nigga named Michael Wave. He was hard
as than motherfucker. Try to give me a run for
my money, you know what I'm saying. But you know,
Sug was like anybody who could beat Crooked in the battle.
I'll give him a record deal, you know what I'm saying.

(20:59):
The heart out they was, they was wrapping their heart out,
you know what I'm saying. So I had to cut
through them. And I called kra said I know what
you mean. The night I served two thousand m seeds.
When he said that, he told me the same, so
he said, should the same, And that's when I said

(21:20):
that the night I served two thousand m seeds on
that New York, New York, because that's crazy. They want
that's five bro, and that competition is good. It is good.
Definitely good man, definitely good real and they retreat Barns
over there, dog it don't make no sense like they
might respect you more than your own coach.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
They ain't here with the ear I'm driving, yo, yo, good,
it's all good. Yeah, I'm just driving right now. I
just want to chime in with y'all for a second,
peasily ship ain't good or not to let you know
everything straight.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
Wow. Sure, yeah, Nah, it was definitely.

Speaker 2 (22:12):
It's definitely like a you know, like like it's just
like anything in the streets or anything like you know,
you know, motherfucker, I gotta gotta fight for it. And
then a nigga respect you afterwards, like you know what
I'm saying, after they so you can swing with him
like okay, like okay, now he he nice.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, let me because we never hear about this anybody
ever's go to town and get theirs tore up.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
Like as far as going over there from the web,
I'm talking about like somebody coming up the station, the
niggas rapping waiting.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
You ever seen a niggas get cooked, It been some
niggas that got cooked. If it's some niggas that got
cooked for shure, you know what I mean. Nigga ain't
act like we just win every battle.

Speaker 1 (22:47):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (22:50):
Crook over there looking like, Yeah, some niggas, niggas get cooked,
bro Like who got cooked out there?

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Crew out out there on the New York Who.

Speaker 3 (23:02):
Got cooked out of New York?

Speaker 1 (23:08):
We're trying to figure like you talk about just like
what in a cipher or some ship.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Ye're like on some cipher ship Like this nigga out
there just giving me like you said, the only microwave,
Try to give you a round for your money.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
If you said correct. Yeah, that nigga was rapping truck
was holding it down though trigger Trusch was holding us down.
Thought let nothing move. He got the whole king shout there.
You know what I'm saying. Like, that's the thing, Like
I don't know who got Like I can't even I
ain't really been in no situation where I've seen niggas

(23:40):
get cooked unless I was doing the cooking. But you
know I have seen situations of unity between the East
and the West. Mind blowing to me because of all
the propaganda that we was, we was programmed with, you
know what I'm saying, And then you go out there
and you being a proud Jason niggas and they love you.

(24:01):
You know, the New York niggas is some of the
coolest niggas of the ells. Fat that's a fact. That's
a fact. And like you say, it be the proper ganda.
So like, until you go somewhere and see it for yourself,
you don't really know, you know what I'm saying. I
think it's the same for a lot of them. They
hear how it is until they really come over here

(24:21):
and they tap in with some real good people that
really rock with them, and it's like, oh, damn, nigga,
ain't even niggas ain't tripping like how you thought somebody
said they was tripping on line and all that bullshit.
You know what I'm saying That niggas on online, I
feel like real recognized real pretty much anywhere. So when
you're moving with respect, you moving with honor, you know
what I'm saying, Like you gonna your spirit gonna line
you with niggas that's moving that way as well, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
And I ain't trying to keep going back on there,
but really got a little bit of faith.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
Don't she rem mind? I mean, sid she a fucking
the millionaire. I'm sure you family got to hit records,
mayn't conceded and.

Speaker 5 (24:56):
All the way up and all that hell is you got.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Watch nigga got some money. Like what is his background?

Speaker 1 (25:03):
I mean, I don't know about him personally, about them
having like no money or what his background is. I
just know Heim from battle rapping, you know what I'm saying.
So like, you know, like me and him, we we
had a battle before, and I ain't gonna say we
like the best of friends, but we not know enemies
or nothing like, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:16):
Cool dude, you know you know, I'm just curious because
I'm like, man, it seems like that nigga Path did
the most for women. Man, she left that niggas man
for a nigga. Look like he working burger.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
King his nigga still drip starts and ship.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
Man, you don't look like that. I know that they
don't have a little something going on. Still gonna get.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
What I will say is relationships.

Speaker 5 (25:41):
Man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
That shit just be tricky. Like I don't know what
Remy and Path personal, how they made them split up,
what they really business was on him getting with Clariss
saying her messing with uh with the nigga easy or whatnot.
You know what I'm saying, but that relationship should be tricky.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Man, you never know what he really going on.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
That's why talking so much shit about the nigga, because
she hurt and he her.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah. Yeah, what I'm saying. You know, like you say
when my fucker is hurt. You know what I'm saying,
ain't really nothing you can do about that. You know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
That'sh it bigger than that shit, bigger than wrap. That's
they got kids and shit involved.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
You know what I'm saying. That rap say.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
You know what, do I saw really is real good?
When she take off all that nigga and ship, she
looks like she fleeed it from the block like a mother,
Like she's just swumbles on it right now. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Like, hey, Remy gonna pop your ass man and a guy, Yes,
that really got better on the for the nigga. What
you say about me, Yeah, he donna pull out, you'll
pull up.

Speaker 5 (26:42):
Hey, I will tell you that he'll pull out. I
don't see her pull some niggas to the side. You
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (26:47):
That had some ship to say, body, I don't seen
her in the building or something like say tight vibes.

Speaker 3 (26:52):
I ain't gonna hey man, be funny the mother fucker remy.
You know you're like nigga, what was she trying to do?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
What you're trying to see?

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Oh wait, got yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
Really engaged man? You know what th man?

Speaker 3 (27:05):
What really is a beast? At what she do?

Speaker 1 (27:11):
You know too? She another one. She come from the
battle rap background. People remember her battle with Lady Looked
that was viral years ago and all that. You know
what I'm saying, so like, but when you know what
I'm saying, so and so, when I did that in
that battle, you know a lot of people thought she
took it to heart. I mean, you know what I'm saying.
But for the most part, man like, we was always
still chopping. Everything was good. I've seen her ganguitars after that.

(27:34):
It always was. It was always you know, it was
always loved. She understood that. You know, she understood what
battle Rat was. You know what I'm saying. At the moment,
like a battle Rappers to you know, to do anything
you can at that moment, you got it like so
she but I'm gonna tell you what I really think.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
What's the pet's new old girl? That the one that box?

Speaker 1 (27:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. She was Larissa.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
I think Larissa, And really you think guys in the swaggle,
I think if it was on some streets, shit, I'm
gonna give it to me because Remy probably gonna pust
her her head or something, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Probably, man, Probably she probably can't even fight somebody on
the streets though them gloves and probably got them hands registered. Men,
she gonna jail hit somebody on the streets anyway, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
But I think Remy just seemed like one of them
types is gonna put the venice lean on somebody here.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
You don't want to run it to her in the
back streets she fucking around, probably hit you over the
head with them Hontie bottles and leave right there. You
know what I'm saying. Man, I fucked with Remy though,
because she she held it down for a long time.

Speaker 3 (28:35):
On for the females.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
You know, she a real spitter. She was doing her thing,
and she was getting on some hits too, you know
what I mean. And it's not easy to be in
the game as as a woman. Well know so she
she was really doing her She's really doing her one too. Man,
I got a lot of respect for Remy. When you
having your relationship in the front of the world, dog,

(29:00):
that's a tough thing to do and hip twice. Yeah,
back in the day in my HEYJ and I got daughters,
I said, I ain't doing that ship. Yeah, my daughters
watching all that shit. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (29:16):
All that for in the world so far, for the
average person, it's just like, like you say, it's content
and something for them to chime in on.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
But it's something when when the cameras is off, they
really gotta deal with. They gotta explain that to they
baby girl, you know what I mean. They got to
talk today to they family members. That's like, man, what's
up with bro? You know she or what's up with her?
You know all that type of ship that niggas don't see.
So that's why I say, like I left it in
the battle, Like I said what I said in the battle,
which more so was like you know all in the battle.

Speaker 2 (29:45):
But man, you never like I got too much respect
for her and Pep, like I ain't never got on
no interview, literally literally talking no craziness about him because
I really don't know the ends and out, so they
sit out. But for all I know, all that shit
could be fake, Nigga, they could still be together and
acting like you know, you know.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
I don't know what they got going on, you said me,
So I.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Gave out the way dog and I love Pat, I
love here to Papa real m C too, like the
definition of a New York m C. You know that
Nigga wraps for sure, he rapped, you know what I'm saying,
right up?

Speaker 3 (30:23):
Busy sure that wos Wood's definitely just busy man.

Speaker 1 (30:29):
He was on the freshman cover with me still we did.
That's how old I am. We did the first freshman
cover that they ever did. Dang, you know what I'm
saying That Nigga Pap was on there.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That's crazy. What year was that, crook?

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I think that was old seven or something like that.
Oh hey, something like that. They get almost twenty were
almost working on twenty years. That they were gonna make
a noise for a long time. The nigga been You're
putting in work for a minute, man, you know what
I'm saying, put me in work for a minute. Ye,

(31:08):
And that's the type of shit I feel like, you
know what I'm saying like that I like to see, man,
you know what I'm saying, just highlighting, Like you said,
when you talk about them listen and all that.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
You know, all that shit is subjective, but like when
you know that you've been putting in work and you
know that the your peers and the other rappers respect you.
You know what I'm saying, Like, that's the list. You
know what I'm saying, Like, that's the list. You know
what I'm saying, like you know.

Speaker 1 (31:30):
You feel me like somebody like Chris being able to
say like nah, geecha, I know you nice. You know
what I'm saying. That means something me being able to
say that back and we both know we spinners and
we can that's that's that's the nods, you know what
I'm saying, Like somebody sitting in the office coming up
with names because they putting together YouTube streams and all
this different little stuff and then seales that ain't gonna matter.
Then you know what I mean, Like you said, you
can name somebody like Pat Pools who probably haven't sold

(31:52):
as many records as some of the biggest artists in
New York.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
But everybody in New York know he's Spinner, and they
gonna respect him off that.

Speaker 1 (31:57):
You know.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
You know, earn't that right because of what he does
did on them records. When you put him on there
with certain certain other rappers, you know it so like
you know, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
I think some of this stuff, man is. I was
having a conversation with this one catch day and I
was telling him because he brought up Should's name and
how you can't move the industry beating up people.

Speaker 5 (32:18):
And doing this no more.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
And I said, man, let me tell you something. This
is what people don't say about Should Go. I've had
my interactions for Should. He ain't been enohing to cool
with me. Yeah, he say he was hundreds or nothing,
But I don't been with him a couple of times
and it was always just all love. You know, I'm
gonna tell you what I do. You know, all my
hommies that messed with Should, like my big bro DJ

(32:41):
Podcast said, Should gave him the most money ever for
a track. Dang, you feel what I'm saying. He gave
him the most funkyful holler at me gave him like
like like almost you know, on some big ship. You're
looking out for him. Mom, I don't heard about him
saving people's mama's houses. And you know, we gotta get
to the thing. Man on these platforms where we start

(33:03):
big uping our brothers. Man, we just you know, not
out there trying to just make everybody look bad. She'll
be trying to entertain what was fucker's dog, But you gotta,
you know, speak life and ship sometimes dog like, she'll
get a lot of great ship for niggas dog a
lot of good. And I'm gonna tell you this, with
the way this industry years, y'all both know some of them,
sometimes you gotta have a nigga like that. Sometimes you

(33:23):
gotta come through that for the elbow niggas top.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
And there's a reason that they got elevator key cards
that the labels, you know what I'm saying, They go
up there, you know what I mean, and and just
be on a mission. You feel me. The game is
designed has always been designed to street artists over since
fath Cook was singing you feel like, so you gonna
have some people say hold up, you ain't gonna play

(33:48):
me going.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
If everybody can always make the homie just It's like
they say something about somebody but telling what them niggas.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Did get that. You know, niggas can find that Spotify
nigga that the CEO Spotify. You don't think nobody got
the words for him. They gonna have more than words, homie,
They have stands for that problem. He gonna says zero zero,
zero point three cents, you know what I mean? Like
the cold part is they say that, they say Jimmy

(34:20):
I been, They say Jimmy I Been. Had a conversation
with Steve Jobs when Steve Jobs was still living and
told Steve Jobs, if you come out with that iPod,
you're gonna fuck up the whole music in it. He'sai,
because you're gonna take it from where you gotta pep
somebody buying a thousand albums and spending money for each
one to go into having a thousand albums in their

(34:42):
pocket on the iPod. And he said that you're gonna
you're gonna fuck up the money ecosystem. And Steve Jobs
was like, y'all better catch up because I'm doing it. Man.
I'm from home. It's tough out here, you know what
I'm saying, if I had the time the.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
Shining Dog, I'd probably go back and shoot that nigga.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
You'd be manning him up for God.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
I'm serious, man, because they fucked up a lot of giche.
I tell like young cats like you glasses all the time.
It was some serious paper being made, dog niggas. That's
why when niggas talk about this streaming shit, I don't
believe me because I'd be like, Man, I knew niggas
and the Bay Dog. I knew niggas in Detroit. Man,
What's what's my nigga? Uh? What's my nigga? From Detroit? Man? Guilty?

(35:30):
Simpson guilty, Simpson guilty. Simpson might sell five six thousand
c these dog, but that nigga is rich, dog like
like he puts out a bunch of stuff to sell
six ten thousand. You feel what I'm saying? And he
getting shows it was catch because you had a physical product, right,
It's always getting when you got a physical product. You
got something you can sell somebody, a tangible product. And

(35:53):
I'm gonna tell you my distribution deal I had over
in the United Kingdom. Dog, That's how I bought my
house dog because I was getting something like, I had
this change rate when I was getting something like twelve
dollars a CD dog. So if I say all the
motherfucking two thousand units and a lot of times with
any shit shit ship out, they can only send forty
percent of that ship back.

Speaker 1 (36:14):
So you're getting paid.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
And he said six o'locks when they got to.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Dump your reserves off you talk about, man.

Speaker 3 (36:18):
I was forgetting forty fifty thousand dollars off city the
last Night show over the last ship one thing. He said, Bro,
why you're not doing this shit? And I'm want, I said,
them motherfuckers with that Streamian shit fuck, and I remember
when that shit happened. I'm gonna tell you the first
thing they did the niggas. I remember, Dog, I was
supposed to getting shaked two fifty dogs in this company,
right fifty. I just got braided off like three months before.

(36:42):
So you know, I'm driving the big powder of white escalade, man,
ask stit. I'm driving a big powder of white escalade,
man with the gold datings on them. You know what
I'm saying. I had some flying ship, right, I asked
it about that shit? Right, I'm looking at TV because
I got a TV putting my motherfucking escalade to walk
and watch, and they was showing some sugar, bought.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
The homies whiskey of DJ Homies, the niggas in Atlanta, the.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
Fans raising their ship for mixtapes DJ Drama. Now I'm
looking at that and in real time I'm taller to
the niggas in England because my money ain't came yet
and I was supposed to get that, and I was
a young nigga back there, so I wanted. I was
spent the whole bunch of shit, like get.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
The court nigga.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Nigga was buck really go climb. I had the motherfucking
car being guilty them my nigga, and man, they wouldn't
give them my money because the fares are putting freeze
and anything that had samples in it unclear. At first,
it's all kind of shit. I was mad, motherfuckers, but
couldn't do nothing. But then I had to like it's
one of them things, dog like kind of like you
see the dope I was getting busted and you got

(37:44):
ten fifteen keys in that motherfucker and you like, damn man,
all the bread gone, we go. You know it could
be fun.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
We gonna over to connect. But then you like, at
least I didn't.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Go to Chick, but them mother niggas gonna tell a
long time at right, and man, they just shut down
ship down. So it was almost like it was strategic, man.
And I'm gonna take the cold thing about that mixtape
ship when it happened, where do you think Drahma them
was getting all the songs from nigga. Come on, Ladis

(38:15):
was getting niggas them songs, probably getting pay for him.
Everything was somewhere and the niggas. Everybody go, yeah, Andy
sometimes they tell the flood the street with them up
for us, get that nigga. Hope they us getting niggas hot,
will win mixtape wing, Oh yeah for shot so s.

Speaker 1 (38:35):
Dangs the girls mixtapes with niggas was getting them. There
was the hottest sits in the streets back there. Everybody.
You know what I'm saying. You know something trunk went
out like the Bay Area.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
It was niggas making money back then. Dogs them baby
niggas was really getting it. I'm gonna tell you all
something about the homie too Short. Too Short was selling
independent music. Dog with nineteen eighty he won. He was
coming down here to IP records, Dog getting Alvin told
me he was giving he was given time between seven

(39:09):
and eight dollars. And this is way back in the eighties, Dog,
between seven eight dollars a tape.

Speaker 1 (39:13):
My nigga, nigga too short. Niggas should look at too short?
How they look at ll cool jack?

Speaker 3 (39:21):
Oh for sure, for sure. Do you know what I
tell niggas and y'all go trick on this, I tell
niggas too short? To me is the braggest rap room
for all the time. I'll tell you why career from
nineteen eighty to nine.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Can you never switched his ship out? Now?

Speaker 3 (39:42):
His heat changed for the times? Right, well, he kept
the thing flow and he kept saying the same ship.
He never went and did one because he went and
did commercials and theah only thing he did was minute
to society. He staying right, he lived, he said, don't
stop rapping, call me those fuckings bitches. And this nigga, now,
I swear he put off the white ship. He cook

(40:04):
around her to hit the thing.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
Niggas just.

Speaker 3 (40:07):
How it is.

Speaker 9 (40:08):
You can't sing at the boat and it wasn't nigg
eighty that's a fact too, sure. It's still a legend man.
Still you still I mean legendary man. We got a
lot of legendary niggas like that though.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
From the coast, from the coach that just don't get
their proper flowers, you know what I'm saying. Like, but
but like you know, like you say, man, like you
should be looking at short like that DJ Quick, you know,
like you said, Ship with Niggas, m C eight BG knockouts,
the drains of the gangs, like these dudes who was
back in the day a part of some big, big

(40:41):
records and doing big things. You know what I'm saying,
some some some unfortunate some, you know what I mean.
Then the career didn't go like like like some of
the greats, like like Snoops and Drains. But niggas still
have big careers and still did a lot and still
say might make a stamp. You know what I'm saying.
In this ship, you know what I mean, real for
real soundtracks and all kinds of shit. You know what
I'm saying. I hit records that's still timeless records, sugar Free,

(41:04):
you know what I'm saying, Like that's one of my
favorite rappers right there. You know what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 3 (41:08):
Just one nigga one, that's my homeboy man.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Talking that peak talk on that shit. That nigga be
gassing though. You know what I'm saying, Oh.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
He's a rapping his nigga. Dog. I'm gonna tell you
you talked about that ship fucking rappers up. We was
up in Oregon. There was a niggas trying to wrap
up there, dog with sugar Free letting the me. You know,
sugar Free back there. He you have, sugar Free is
just like that uncle that you got.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
You know.

Speaker 3 (41:34):
Niggas were their hair slicked back in that little tight
ass ponytail.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
He went back the right.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
So niggas up there wrapping and this nigga got on
like a silk shirt. You had nigga be having a
silk shirts with like some slack songs like fucking hoofers. Yeah.
This nigga grabbed the magazine and was rapping about everybody
on the magazine. Man, like cold he was gonna pick.

(42:02):
He told him some nigga he was gonna do something
with his brawl, And I swear to the nigga had
this brawl the wrong.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
The same nigga he told him to walking behind him
like this. It's a real character. Grow the fact.

Speaker 3 (42:18):
It's a little Ciga free man.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
That man. That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of
legendary ship man that's on this West coast.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
You know he's from contin you know, but he's from Comfort.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
By way of the city. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, from Compton. Uh.
I think like Brooklyn, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (42:37):
Yeah, a lot of a lot of a lot of
stars and cobs like not.

Speaker 1 (42:44):
They got like Brooklyn got Jay and Biggie and they
got Cought. That's like Brooky. Yeah, niggas Compon is for
it to be such a small city when I be crazy,
when you go out of town and people, but you
hear about Compon and you think it's it's biggas some
of them cities like an Atlanta or Detroit. You know
what I'm saying. It's like it made such a big

(43:05):
impact on hip hop though through the rappers and and
stuff that and that came up out of that city.
The athletes, you know what I mean, The actors and
actresses that came up out of there too.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
You know what I'm saying. I had a big thing.

Speaker 1 (43:18):
I think it's only Channel two world.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I told him, I said man Compton is probably remember
when City for Rep. I would have to give up
the Long Beach too. But Compton from store Gold, when
you think for all the ship he was came up here,
I'm told about all the day from Swaying Easy.

Speaker 1 (43:38):
You know they've always had the monster really five or
six years old. Forget about her gig show show the
shore nigga comforting his motherfucking nigger, the seapin. That's like

(43:59):
the tree, the n w A tree. Yeah, and you
know I'm part of that tree by way of you know,
fucking with Sloop and the dog poun do you know
death bro, and fucking with Drake. Like people don't understand
Doctor Dre had three motherfucking dynasties, nigga, not one. He

(44:21):
had ruthless death Row Aftermath. That's three dynasty. Them niggas
got one dynasty. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
He produced doll three in his motherfuckers. He's the one
that was instrumental from the songs. Bro, That shit is legendary.
What he did, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
But they all did, easy friend. They can compass most
wanted motherfucking quick. You know what I'm saying, like it
just goes on and on, you know what I mean? Wait,
and so all records, so the records game. So so

(45:05):
you're what you got Kendrick, you got y G, you
got Roddy Rich. You know what I'm saying, Like even
in this newer generation, you know what I'm saying, that's
Hendrick Y G, Roddy Rich. You know what I'm saying,
that's that's you. If they just had that, they be
talking ship.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
You know what I'm saying, be in the mother fucking battle,
rep Bro. My niggas.

Speaker 1 (45:36):
Like that real Topton always got something to shape. That's
a fact. You know what I'm saying. That's that's that's
a fact. Like if you don't know that fact, you
know what I mean, tell you We don't know what
to tell you.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
I don't know if you tell you.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Know what glasses claiming the glass.

Speaker 3 (45:54):
Is from compting Dog.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Yeah, you know what, hundred seventeenth right there, that's the boy.

Speaker 3 (45:59):
All right, glass from coffee it all and all these
niggas don't have movements like the shit in the street.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
Yeah. In fact, what's up? Hell yeah, you know watch
then everybody migrated, got a cool job, went over here.
You know, we got a great we got a great
history over here Coolio that is not known much. We
got our own Grand Master Flash and Africa Bad Boys

(46:34):
and keep Yeah. We got Kid, DJ Pool and Miss
Man and you know what I'm saying. We got battle
Chat and Army and we got we got history Ice Tea.
We got a real even before I got in the

(46:56):
Battle rep game. And like you say, my nigga spit
fire Man, we ran through the whole battle.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
Before that shit even was you know what I mean,
it was even a big thing, went through that whole
guy living ran the niggas man.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
You know what I'm saying, Like Damn Ben spinners Man.

Speaker 10 (47:12):
Real Yeah, if I remember Spit Fire too, So yeah,
ricords to these records.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
You know what's so crazy?

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yeah av too. You know what I'm saying, problem problem,
you know what I mean, keep going, Nigga's going, Let's
go bro niggas, brogs. You know That's why I liked
it what Kendrick did. I always saluted that when the
motherfuckers asked me about it. Because I didn't get to

(47:48):
make it to the popart.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
I was actually like around my birthday last year, my
birthday in the twenty seconds, so they get it on.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
Joe tep I was already headed to Houston. I had
a I was out there, so but I saluted it
because I'm like, you know what, that's something that other
regions I always felt was ahead of the game with
on us. It's just tying everything together.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
And you know what I mean and doing big events
like that, like we so divided through these street politics
and all this other little different shit that they'd be
hard to you know what I mean, Like the rappers
kind of know how to get along. But then it's like, well,
I can't really bring him and him because if he
bring him and him, and he bring him and him,
he never now is now is a problem, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
So you know, and that's just how it is.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
But I felt like when he did that, it showed, like,
you know what, like motherfucker's is growing and understanding a
little bit. This shit bigger, you know what I mean,
This shit bigger than what it you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And when niggas used to look at it ass like
you know, like, nah, man, there's a lot of dudes
from different sections putting on putting money in their hood,
putting putting putting hope in they hood. You know what
I'm saying, putting hope in their hood for the next
generation to want to do this ship niggas from everywhere.
You know what I'm saying, blood crip and say whatever.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I think that pop
out man with some big and something that that niggas

(48:56):
pick the ball up and keep going, you know what
I'm saying, Like you.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Like you know when you start talking about TD this period, man,
you know that nigga dude dog really from watching my nigga,
you know it was somebody else, you know what I'm saying,
And he's one of the top executives like it.

Speaker 1 (49:17):
And though it's like and he's a regular nigga, I
think that you think you're right about that prop out
though I think I think the world when they've seen
some bloods and crips up there, they was like, oh yeah,
that's cool. But I don't think they really understood this,
understood the maga was going on and that's some king ship.

(49:39):
Like the last time I really seen somebody do it
on an album, tip was all eyes on me. When
you know what I'm saying, Magnavelly. When you listen to
that album, all Eyes on Me, you hear niggas from
the Bay, you hear niggas from l A and you.
It's all together while he and his crime go wait
till You Fall. They try to start working with people

(50:02):
out when your crime hot, so they could get hot,
you know what I'm saying. So it was really that
pop out Man was really a great, great, great event.
And you know, to hear them dudes on that g
n X because gn X felt like to pop out
the album version album version. Yeah, so you know me

(50:24):
and that and here to hear them young guys going
on there man, and and watching them on on social media.
Pull out the plaques in the in the charts, you
know they first they first number one song on Build Man.
That ship is just legendary is and I hope that
people can't keep that energy going to just dude, it's

(50:48):
it's too many people that's dope that don't even have
songs together, you know what I mean, Like they don't
even got joints together. Like that's that don't make no sense.
We got a click up this power unity. Yeah, yeah,
he said he did a great thing. I think he
shifted the culture a little bit too. Nah, definitely definitely

(51:11):
because the party died that other party. Definitely definitely. We
even kind of like piggybacked off. It meant I had
a battle in December last year downtown in LA said,
I'm onna Kelly plugging them. They put it together, our
battle of a rapper that was a power rapper and

(51:31):
then we had uh counting crip rappers, power rappers, La Cribs,
bloods all on the court as far as like doing
their music.

Speaker 2 (51:39):
Had the building packed with all type of different hoods,
different gangs, no drama, no nobody got hurt, nobody went
to gail, everybody performed and all that shit.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
That shit went down December last year. You know what
I'm saying. It was called King of the County, had
a gang of members in there. Everybody was in there
for the same purpose and calls probably now on the
biggest skill as far as like doing it on prime
video and all that. But within that same you know
what I mean, energy, like yeah, within that same energy
of just niggas in the streets like understanding, like man,

(52:09):
put that bullshit to the side. Man, these niggas over
here raping. It's a nigga from this hood that rap,
his homi'es finna be in here supporting on this hood
that rap. Everybody finished support each other and going home.
You know what I'm saying, because at the end of
the day, they like you get to start looking around
and you're like, man, some of this shit be all
the all niggas be wont is a little bit of support,
you know what I'm saying. And if you start seeing
that that that that niggas can and kind of like

(52:29):
he said, man, like you stop seeing dudes being able
to do songs with each other, do the little bullshit,
and they be like, man, that shit might be the
nigga that's gonna have that hit with you. That might
be that you know what I mean, Your song might
be hot over here in this neighborhood if you get
an opportunity just to let a nigga, you know what
I'm saying. That's what was so dope to me about
Nipsey Rest in peace. I want to make sure I
say this for we got out. That was always one
was so dope to me about a nigga like nip

(52:51):
because nip transcended just like of course he was a
six so crip, but like he was just looked at
like a like a like nigga no matter. He felt
like he was from everybody who you know what I mean,
took that Nipsey Like, Man, this nigga hard Bro't the
fun where this nigga from. I'm banging this ship. You
know what I'm saying, Nigga, I'm pretty so it's in
and the banged whatever. You know what I'm saying, All

(53:12):
that type of ship like and that that's the energy
that that I think we you know, like like we
missing on that west and I think Kendrick you know,
brung that back with that pop out. You know what
I'm saying, we missing that absolutely. I'm saying, you remember
banging on wax still Hell, Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (53:27):
He was an a fourtant album. You know, Battle can't
produced that.

Speaker 1 (53:31):
Yeah, that was an important album. Dog Banking ain't gonna
take how many copies of that ship?

Speaker 3 (53:37):
So Man, the people x X label to prove that.
I forget the name of that label, but there was
a little in the label. Them people made millions of dollars, Dog.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
I believe millions of dollars. Bro.

Speaker 3 (53:49):
I believe that that ship is crazy.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Domino was on there, but I think class powerful music,
awful bro Like I remember when I was like eighteen,
I had to move to the Jungle because it was
a section eight apartment. I you know, I was clear
with his kids, got to move. Dog. They was upping

(54:13):
the fuck out of motherfucking Snoop album in the Jungle.
Dog like every Snoop You Snoop nothing, Nigga like Snoop
good everywhere in America, everywhere in the world. That boat
he the biggest crip ever was what nobody what I'm saying,

(54:34):
that's the biggest I want to hear.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
I want to hear y'all boats them before we get
out of here. Man, Both of y'all is from neighborhoods
like like Cook ain't no game banger, but he you know,
he's from somewhere. He you know, he got niggas that
if he called you gonna come to show up. You
feel what I'm saying, you from where you're from, right.
Do you think y'all having that dynamic? Man, do you

(54:59):
think that that sometimes may have stopped some incredible music
that could have been made the show?

Speaker 1 (55:06):
In my in my and my side of it, I'm
pretty sore at half, you know what I'm saying, just
off of the simple fact, especially me, like like I'm
like I'm a little older now.

Speaker 3 (55:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (55:15):
I just turned thirty seven other day. You know what
I'm saying, You feelish? Yeah, yeah, I'm a cancer man.
The first day of that shit man I started off. Man,
so I'm like on the cut stay statement. You know
what I'm saying, I I'm cancer man, six twenty two.
You feel regulations birthday, my nigga.

Speaker 1 (55:32):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
So I can say, you know, even myself probably as
a younger, as a younger, uh, you know what I'm saying,
I had that type of mindset too. You know what
I'm saying, just being you know what i mean younger
when I was rapping and just hearing dudes different areas
that probably was cold, and I just already had it
in my mind like niggas cold.

Speaker 1 (55:51):
But I ain't doing no music with no niggas. You
know what I'm saying, Like niggas like probably ain't like
hating on them or stopping them, but just in my
mind like if they ever send me a record, it
wouldn't have and I ain't thinking about it, so I
can only imagine that party everywhere, you know what I mean,
Niggas that probably felt the same way when they seen me,
like you got he tight, but from over there, you
know what I'm saying, I can't really do it now
I'm a little older, so that shit like in my past,

(56:12):
I do it.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I do a song with the motherfuckers, and that's what
it is. Definitely I could say in my past. Hell yeah,
that party handed a lot of you know what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (56:21):
That part about it is y'all from probably in y'all
prospective cities, from the biggest neighborhoods and the perspective cities.
So it's like niggas is really scared when place front,
Like I know niggas that won't even go over there
near ny near nowhere with no insane is that? You

(56:42):
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Well, some of them niggas, you know it be like
I ain't fucking with that long beach nigga when when
I was young, you know what I'm saying. But you know,
and but no matter where I went their music, I
was the long beach nigga, you know what I'm saying,
Like like I was on the dead end. We're gaming
them in Black Wall Street way, He's back. You know

(57:06):
what I'm saying, pull up doing music back on, Big
Face was around and ge Rye and all them dog
be over there making music. Then I go, fuck with
Big Why resting? You know what I'm saying. I go,
why we're doing music? Then by Nigga g red Rum.

(57:27):
You know what I'm saying. We're doing music, you know,
and it's like they accepted everything, Like Nigga, we already
know all your family it is this and we we
know what it is. But Nigga, we making music and unifier.
You know what I'm saying, that big unifier building. It's

(57:48):
I even did music with essays Man that that that
that that BA had to catch run fade for rapping
with black rappers. Yeah, you know this ship, this ship
is is deep over here. It's deep over here on
the West here, deep on the West Coach. You know
what I'm saying, you like to be to be a

(58:10):
real strict rapper, you gotta really stand on what you
believe in, really standing in that, you know what I'm saying.
Because you're gonna have you gonna have niggas that oppose it,
like you know what I'm saying, Like you say you
feel me, that might be like, oh damn, you're doing that.
You know what I'm saying. It's like yo, yeah, hell yeah,
he's he over there. Yeah, that's my niggas with me.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
You gotta be able to you know, have you know
what I mean, be with some niggas that's gonna really
stand in it too, you know what I'm saying, Like
to really really uphold what they be rapping about around
this motherfucker too.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, but you know,
I know still you was talking about the state of
hip hop and I just feel like Doug, I had
to take a break from social media because niggas with
big platforms don't know what the fuck they be talking about.

(58:54):
They don't be talking about the music. They talk about
everything but the music. But the music, and what's the jossip?
Colum and we got we got like the young kid LOIZI.
He got an album called Louisiana Volume one. The kid
could go, he's real hip hop, you know what I'm saying.
We got lo Russell doing this thing. You know, we

(59:18):
got Geechee doing his thing, like when you make your
munic ship's house. Really, I think that's I think that's
the West though, Like we got a good formula over
here when it come to get down and making songs.

Speaker 11 (59:30):
And goddamn right, you know if once we get over
that hump, some of the executives got to get over
that hump and start really reaching out some of the
podcasts and gotta start.

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Reaching out more and puts in the promoting the product
over here to dog. Everybody else is doing it, you
know what. Everybody we look at do it too, so
we could keep this thing going for the next generation.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Well, that's hard.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
I make conversations like this happened because when I ask you,
I said, man.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
You ain't give a.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
No interviews? Yeah, no, no interview.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
No, that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yep. But we we done been in many places topped
to them. So he doesn't been at some of my
battles and ship yeah, bro, Yeah, they had a battle
in Long Beach and a lot of people didn't even
know a lot of people in the city didn't even
know it was right across street from Glomos. So every time, Yeah,

(01:00:32):
it's crazy. That's the last time I said search Yep,
yep the way, yeah, bro, And that's another thing. They
need to start putting some battle rapping on some of
these listens. We're talking about lyrics because they try not
to like it's it's upside down. Bro. I'm in these offices.

(01:00:52):
These people ain't other culture half of me. They don't care.
It's all about numbers and data and we gotta we
gotta bring it back. Well, if the ship gonna run
into a brick wall in my opinion, because right you
go on the tour, dog, You'll see how bad it is.
You know what I'm saying. You'll see I'm trying to

(01:01:13):
I'm trying to create platforms, dog Like. That's one of
my missions for this chapter of my life is to
create platforms or create checks the indie artists. Yeah, so
they can so they can live their fucking dreams. Bro.

Speaker 3 (01:01:27):
Well the detle Rep.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
As far as Battle Rep, you go your own league,
Yeah yeah, I gotta league the Riot Man me and
my brother Kevin Parks. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:01:37):
We got the league the Riot.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
We got an event going down in Orange County, Santa Ana,
Uh July the fifth, some dope battles going down that
day Coffee Brown out of Sam Bernardino versus I god
a Ward, Kansas City, and a bunch of other dope
West Coast artists and artists from all over the world
on there. Then the following weekend we're gonna be in Jackson,
Florida with another big event vixing us ass In out

(01:02:00):
of Milwaukee versus ass out of Northron, Virginia, and a
bunch of other dope artists men from from Florida in
different places. So yeah, man, yeah, I definitely. You know,
I've been putting all the battle rap events. You know
what I'm saying. They look on the YouTube Ryan Rap Battles,
see all the battles we've been putting all throughout the years.
A lot of dope, a lot of dope battles that
happened on the platform. For sure, that's dope.

Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
I'm gonna ask you something gets you. I'm about to
I'm about to relaunch my relaunch. I'm about to launch
my Man Digital soap box right all right, And I
already got it on. I already got some ship going
with there, and I've been like working on that for
a while. Launch not you know, been talking to just
different people as far as like different platforms, like you know,

(01:02:45):
to the y I'm gonna talk to you about your
better web. Maybe we can maybe we can do something
to work people works that something's gonna be for real
for the coaching man. It's like you see how we
do their stuff we.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Don't do Yeah, I know for here, I know I
already know it's gonna be done right when it's.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
That authentic man, because me right now, this conversation we
have and it is authentic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yeah, for sure, when you're on dog till I'm hoping
in the corner of my bed, one dog and we
just have the conversation Dog, we represent the coaching bro
like you know that that that total slaughter was my idea. Yeah,

(01:03:31):
you know what I'm saying. We're not gonna get into it,
but you know I came up with that idea and
it was just because I wanted to unite battle rap
hip hop on a big platform. You know what I'm saying.
Because dog niggas like m so three hundred million records

(01:03:51):
and he cut from that battle clump, there's a lot
of success to be had. You know how to play
with your words, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, real
ship and uh you know we're just about the coach
and still you know what it is, broke. We we
love this, We breathe this. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
You know what man? Yeah, man, guys, we gonna chop
it up.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
Man in the chopping man like yeah, off this you
already know. Man, make sure I get crooked number two. Man,
and we just keep you don't lock you we on
that thread.

Speaker 5 (01:04:24):
I'm gonna lock you in.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
And yeah, he keep getting I'm getting them. I got you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:28):
You know I'm locked in anytime, man, for any of
these conferences right here, still is nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Man, you let me know what they ahead of time. Man,
I could pull up any time and chop this game
with y'all. Man, that's beautiful, I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:04:38):
I'm gonna tell you all that before you go.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Dog.

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
Oh yeah, we can have to talk about this off.
There's too many ears out here, you know. Niggas.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
You have ideas.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
You see any thing next nigga, next week, so much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:52):
Nigga. They got that for me. Say one shot twenty
fifteen for the b T y See Collins, he ran off,
ran off, So we had to go to court over
rhythm and so yeah, you know, they'll really they'll really
try you on that level. But culture, we could come

(01:05:13):
up with a million ideas really good culture, bro. And
I love what hundred's doing. I love what you're doing.
Get you still always keeping it on the culture. So yeah,
it is what it is, bro. Yeah, man, I appreciate
your brothers being falling through man, salut and we out

(01:05:35):
of here people, y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:05:38):
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