OG Baby Gangster Tells Us How The Crack Era Destroyed Us

Compton street legend Baby Gangsta takes us from the 80's crack game to the present and tells us why this generation is probably the most viscous. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Gangster Chronic goals.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:17):
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and comment Here we go, Here we go. It's another
episode of Against the Chronicles podcasts. I ain't gonna do
the normal introductions this week because we got a cat

(00:40):
on here that we've been trying to get on here
for some years now. We finally made it happen. Man,
we got home Gangster Man, the original Gangster from conference.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
He is official.

Speaker 4 (00:49):
O G.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
What's that the man?

Speaker 2 (00:51):
What's up? Bad bid? Everybody doing out there?

Speaker 4 (00:54):
Man?

Speaker 2 (00:54):
It Hey, it's not pleasant.

Speaker 5 (00:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
You gonna hear? Man?

Speaker 3 (00:58):
You know, I want to I like going back in
time when we talk, man, I want to go back
to the days. Man, everybody I asked about you always
talk about your low riders and you low riding up
the street, just just all the avenues and comp all
the boulevards.

Speaker 2 (01:13):
You know, low riding not thank man. You know how
my stepfather had a first low ride like well, I
don't think if it ain't cut, I don'tver sit it.
No low ride first shiv I got in man, mother
Steph Box had a super sport Mark top sixty four
with craigers. You know what I'm saying. I think I

(01:35):
was like in the fifth grade man, and you and
you just took it from there. How'm leeding low riders?
Did you have it at one time? I had it
one time I had a like step like about seven.
Damn yeah, I didn't have like about seven at one time.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Twice and gates to let everybody know you know you
because it goes back a long way. But you know
as a child, you know childhood, like you said, five
or six, where did you grow up at Coptor, right, y'all?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Well, originally we I came from a Louisiana when I
was five years old exactly, okay, And we had moved
to Niggas and Gardens and I stayed we stayed over
there should I was like in the third fourth grade.
Then we moved to Coptain on my moms and my
stepfather bought a house in Comfort, so we moved the

(02:33):
county and here I started going to TB at tib Elementary.
So using the niggas and guards when you first came
out here, Yeah, yeah, it was almost one of them.
You almost one of them. One more almost.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Young hustle and moms in them.

Speaker 5 (02:51):
When moms in them first came from Gulfport, Mississippi, Nigga,
they was in motherfucking Batany. They're so Kimilton and they
went to Banning High School and was over there in Wimilton.
So you know, you definitely want you your people migrate
from the South. You you definitely fall somewhere before I'm

(03:12):
saying the official roots start on.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
You're gonna fall somewhere before you get your see where
you're gonna be.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Stable at Andy where you get your foundation.

Speaker 3 (03:22):
When you get your fall day Man, Yeah, yeah, because
you definitely want them bigger names.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Man from the city of Compton.

Speaker 3 (03:29):
Man, and I want to go back and talk about
like the eighties, because you really had a cracking out there.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
You was really swinging here him. Oh yeah, I done, Man,
I didn't bad. I didn't did it twice, you know,
I didn't did it twice in the eighties and and nineties.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, we want to hear about it all. We gonna
go through both decades that.

Speaker 5 (03:50):
Suppos Compton like growing up for you as a as
a as a twelve thirteen year old kid.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Man, Compton's growing up for me, homie, it was all love, man,
you know what I'm saying, because you know, an't like
la back then, and no Compton Crip hoods had no
beefs or nothing. You know what I'm saying. We used
to walk all the way from Marroo and Santa Fean

(04:18):
and Rose Clans, all the way to fucking Lantanna, all
the way to Nutty. But you know what I'm saying,
all the way of the track newle Swamps. We used
to We used to walk and ride bikes. You know
what I'm saying, as yunksters mean no problems man, you
know so you know it was comfortable with your man.
It was love man.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
So it wasn't all When did the gang banging elements started?

Speaker 2 (04:41):
When the banging ever just started very early sixty nine,
seventy seventy one. You know what I'm saying. I didn't,
really I didn't this we get started. Well, I said,
I'm gonna say it like this.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
I was.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
We was claiming. You know what I'm say saying in
the fifth sixth grade, we didn't really actually start game
banging till like the eighth ninth grade banging band. But
before then, like in elementary, we was claiming the good
you know.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Oh yeah, that's definitely how it start off. As a youngster.

Speaker 5 (05:18):
You definitely started claiming and striking up your notebook and
doing all. Yeah, that's that's when you start, you know,
venturing into the idea.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
Man, this this, this might be it for me.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
You see, do see me? My road on me, I
wouldn't wear a whole different road. My road was like
because I grew up playing sports too. I played baseball
and basketball. You know what I'm saying, white dad, the
hood and the hood at the park, you know what
I'm saying Infigo for Great Accounting, you know what I'm saying.

(05:54):
I grew up, you know, but it was like for me,
what park Park.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Wilson Park?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
My thing was that after all the games was over,
everybody then we didn't want it. We are lost or
whatever didn't happened. You know, when motherfucker's fathers was coming
to get him and taking her to go get pizza
ice cream whatever. You know what I'm saying. I was
always left there by myself, you know what I'm saying,

(06:23):
because my father was never in my life. Knowing my stepfather,
you know, like a lot of most stepfathers just be
there for the mama any more fuck away, especially when
they got other kids on rent. Exactly what I'm saying.
So he wasn't a bad dude. He was a good dude.
He ain't never you know, physically or mentally a try

(06:45):
to Hooper's abuse, none of that. It's just that he
just wasn't there for it, you know what I'm saying.
So you know, I got I got tired of that bullshit.

Speaker 4 (06:55):
Man.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
I was like, you know what, fuck it I'm been
kicking with, don't you know what I'm saying. But at
the time, I didn't know that desk that that is
what led me to the gang. I didn't figure this
out on me, you know what I'm saying till I
was thirty nine years old laying up at downtown in
LA as a federal bility looking at the life sentence.

(07:19):
You know what I'm saying. That was my trauma. So
through my whole life, my trauma was that my father
wasn't never there, you know, So that that's because you
know that I didn't figure that out, you know what
I'm saying, till I was like thirty nine.

Speaker 3 (07:36):
I took as a it's a whole bunch of kids
out there, man, who's going to that type of trauma,
but don't realize it right now? While in the household,
damn near everybody.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's only a few motherfuckers out there of the gang
bang that ain't got some kind of trauma, oh definitely.
And men, but the thing is on me, they don't
even know it. You know what I'm saying. It took me, y'all,
was thirty nine years old, laying up in the motherfucking
jail cell. And if I wouldn't have been laying up
in the jail cell or thirty nine, I wouldn't have

(08:08):
realized it, did you know what I'm saying? So you
better all because man, I'm gonna tell you the kid
people reacting like we just wake up and say, Okay,
we want to gain bang, we want to go hurt
stud killed people, robbing. We don't wake up and just
make that decision, man, You know what I'm saying, a
lot of kids been sexually abused, mentally, physically, emotionally, all

(08:33):
kinds of men. This kid man, kids out there, grown,
that man out there's still traumatized, and they don't even
know why.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
There's a lot of people going through that man going
through depression and everything else.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think because as kids like.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
You said, uh, a lot of a lot of us,
you know, fathers were absentee and I don't know if
we knew what trauma was us.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
You can get me, Oh, we didn't really know.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
He was looking at that ship like this, what this was?

Speaker 2 (09:07):
What's supposed to act? Right?

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
I was like right, I was at daddy too, and like, man,
fuck my father. He don't give talking about me. I
don't give a fuck about him. Fuck him. But when
I was laying up in there, motherfucking that been old
building man at thirty nine years old on my fucking
father passed, you know. And when then whenever you in jail,

(09:32):
when they called you to the chaplain, you know, somebody did.
So I'm just praying, like damn hoping theyin't my mama,
my brother, my sister. You know. I get down there
and Mom told me it was my father man, and
I'm gonna take you something, Homie. I cried like a
fucking baby on it, even though my whole life I
was saying, fuck him, he ain't shit, you know what

(09:54):
I'm saying, Because it was a boy in the motherfucker heart.
You know what I'm saying, that that that was it
for him? No here, hey, and I was I was.
I was still fucked up.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Yeah, Well, did you ever get to bill with him
and he before he passed away?

Speaker 2 (10:11):
No, Ian, I've teened my father one time in my life, man,
and here what it wasn't when I saw him, It
wasn't you know what I'm saying. It was a disappointment. Man.
I think I was fifteen, fifteen years old because he
always lived in New Orleans, Louisiana. You know what I'm saying.
He came to see me. You know what I'm saying.
I think I was like fifteen, and it was like

(10:34):
he wasn't even you know, I didn't feel no love
and that, you know what I'm saying, Just like like
he happy to see me at some moments. And I'm
gonna tell you something. That same night I went to
put some work in because I was pumped up. I
was fucked up. After he left, climbed out of my

(10:56):
bedroom window, jumped on my bike. You know what I'm saying,
got my little three eighty wrent across the motherfucker's kind
of fame. Boom boom boom.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
You know what I'm saying. It's a lot of kids, man,
It's two different instances. You got some daddies who just
bown out right, who just ain't there, and then you
get other daddies who kind of get ran off by
the mama's people whatever her brothers.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Mean myself and I mean myself, nothing stopping me for
my kids. I wouldn't you know what I'm saying. All
these freaking fathers making excuses and the man ain't nothing
gonna stop me. Man, you know what I'm saying, ain't
no man see it. Come on, man, man, I'm gonna
tell you like this my pops. Man.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Shout out to my pops. Man.

Speaker 3 (11:49):
My mom ain't never seen anything wrong about my daddy.
It was always everybody else around there. Man. My pops
went through my grandma throwing the pot. You know, back
then they had out houses and stuff, right, Grandma through
the out that nigga, Grandma popping at that nigga and
everything you feel what I'm saying, He's still he still
would show up, man, and eventually it was like, you know,

(12:09):
let this boy see his daddy, you know. And that
was the biggest thing in the world, man, Me just
getting to go somewhere and riding my pops in his van.
You feel what I'm saying. Me and my pops like
the best my daddy. Man, My daddy wanted the big
dudes there, and I thank him for just pushing through
because you're saying the real thing. Can't nobody stop no
man from going to go see his kids.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Look dat man. And another thing is, you know Compton
is like shit, it's probably like just twenty three percent
black now. But see what, ain't nobody ran us? So
ain't nobody took nothing? Well, motherfucker's failed to realize on me.
The only reason Compton is twenty three percent is because

(12:51):
of that motherfucking crack air. You know what I'm We
didn't add down there forty years of the crack era
on to where mother was in, lost stay homes, they jobs,
they kids, everything, man, you know what I'm saying. I
know I was a big part of that, you know
what I'm saying. But at at the end of the dady, Man,

(13:12):
when we're out there selling that shit. Man, we ain't
realized what the fuck we was doing. Man, all we
were doing is like Nigga's all about money and bitches
and little ride. You know what I'm saying. We ain't.
We didn't. We ain't out of we were conscious enough
to even realized what the fuck we was doing. We

(13:33):
was doing it because that's way home on everything. I
love home. If I could go back and do that
shit again and know what that shit was gonna do
to all people, may not one have never sold that
shit man like gangster.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
You know, growing up in the situations that were presented
to us as as young men, and Compton not not
having that father figure or that just figure of being
a respectable black man to show us, you.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Know, that path.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
A lot of our dreams as kids were probably faded away,
growing up in content in the crack era and the
gang banging and being fatherless and having people to instruct
you a man. You know, I didn't have not one
single motherfucker one start claiming the hood or I didn't.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
See a father figure.

Speaker 5 (14:34):
My father was at but he was living like you said,
he was in another state, had a whole new life.
You get me a single mom, so her choices of
living conditions.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Were very scarce.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Here gonna go.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
We had to go to content.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
We get me.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
So as a young dude growing up and I'm living
in you know, I'm growing up in spook Town, and
I'm seeing niggas serving water and I'm seeing the money
and I'm seeing the influentials and the niggas banging, and
I'm seeing it.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
I'm thinking like, well.

Speaker 5 (15:11):
Shit, this is the path, right, this is the fucking path.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
I'm like, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
I played sports a little bit, you know what I'm saying,
coming up, But when those influences start coming and you
seeing the rag top air bugs and and I'm seeing
niggas like Gangster roll up and down Compton and l
Lange and and fucking rag fives and six's and foes,
and my influence is that like not that a motherfucker

(15:43):
is forcing me.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
But he didn't at that time, like what are the
choices from?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
Uh uh?

Speaker 5 (15:54):
Like I didn't have no uncles going to college, professor.
You know, my father worked at General Motors on the
fucking assembly line for years, but he wasn't calling me
telling me, hey, man, you should, you know, graduate from
school and you should motherfucking go to college and routie.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
He wasn't telling me that shit.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I was on the block. If day he's younger at
the end of the day, what if, what the hell
you gonna sit up? Man? You know that merily crack days. Man,
motherfuckers can tell you. Man, motherfucker used to be out
there four five streets in the morning like the living
dead walking that motherfucker. You canna tell the mo I

(16:38):
done had motherfucker furnished houses. I didn't seen motherfuckers come
up the street refrigerators on their backs. I'm there. It
was so it was so vicious back then. Man, You know,
I can sit back and watch the motherfucker make like
twenty thirty thousand just selling rocks in fifties in like
an hour. Man, Yes, I guess how bitious that ship was. Man,

(17:01):
Where you wanna go where you're gonna make money like that?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Nowhere fluid?

Speaker 2 (17:07):
I mean fluids like.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Thirteen, fourteen years old, and you think I want to
go work at boys market or some ship.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, it's a nia three years older than me.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Got a fucking card that you could think of all
the fucking bitches at the high school. I don't even
know nigga like and yeah yeah, the fucking the niggas
with the perms and they just like I like nigga,
the feeliss.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
And all that nigga to deal with the program.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Shit, I can't get doing nothing else.

Speaker 5 (17:43):
You know, your body in my household, Like I said,
blessed moms for her tips. But there's nobody in my
household who is telling me, young man, you get men, please.
I'm watching niggas come up and down them up just
just and the thirst forard is just like undeniable.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Man. Oh yeah, man, there was. It was all the
trap man.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
When you pick up your first sets, like I just
like thank us back to that, like how did you
get in the game?

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Oh man, I did my last violation in Ya and Ti.
I got off my due on my last violation and
eighty three. I had already the homans had already, you know,
not already talked to the homies and they was telling
me about how that you know, cocaine was going on,
and Turtle and Mondo and the twins and you know

(18:39):
what I'm saying, they was already in the gang. You
know what I'm saying, So when I came home, Turtle
Twin had called the case. Mm hmma, so Turtle was
Turtle was in Tracy. I think Twin that with the
Saint Quinn, you know what I'm saying. And uh, Mondo
was still off you know, so Sho. When I came home, man,

(19:00):
I saw, you know, fucking with the homie Mondo. Because
I'm not one brow Mando to the hood because Mondo
lived over there. And by liking the edge of tree
top before you get the fruit teal on occasion off
a crank, where's your rose green filing right now?

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Because these are all names that I heard as a
little good like.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
This, Well, I brought Mando to the loud he saw,
I can cause I met Mondo and in the eighth
grade at Davis. To see when when I thirst When
I went to the seventh grade, I was going to Roosevelt.
They changed the boundary line and made all of us
in said going to Roosevelt. We had to go all

(19:44):
the way to motherfucking Davis. Man, you know what I'm saying,
And they hey, nay, it was on. I had to
cross the truck. Yeah, we had to go all we
straight to Pi Root neighborhood. You know what I'm saying.
We in script, so I met Mondola Davis. You know
what I'm saying, that bro Mondo to the hood, and
uh he started representing the hood, him and his brother

(20:04):
t w and uh when I came home that Dad
already told me Mondo had a had a dope house
on Spring on the other side of the roads crand
you know what I'm saying. So I'm like, see it.
I had to brawl at the path and shit, I
was about to go about Fenny go to the motel,
but I'm like, fuck, is she here? So she ain't

(20:25):
going nowhere, you know what I'm saying. So I wasn't
running the corner walk across roadsecrands to the spot. You
know what I'm saying. We met over there with Mondo
and I was went in the house and you know,
seeing them cutting up rocks. And because you know, back then,
it was only back then, in the beginning, it was
twenty five or fifty if you want spending twenty five

(20:46):
or fifty dollars, You wasn't. It wasn't no two dollar hits,
three dollars hits.

Speaker 1 (20:51):
It wasn't no spending, no, no no, no, no, it wasn't.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Yeah that he wasn't spending at twenty fifty you can
get no note, you know. So they he was showing me,
you know what I'm saying, and showing me out and
how they cutting up and I'm just sit back watching,
you know what I'm saying. And you know he we
jumped in the card. Well we did it a whole
lot of shit, you know, for real, Bob dud, Dude,

(21:16):
start very introduction, man, you know, you talk back then
they was freshed. You know, you gotta explain.

Speaker 3 (21:30):
You gotta explain to the people that don't know out
here what a struck Berar was.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Man, It's okay, I'm gonna tell you the story. Then
I'm gonna tell her what he was my don't tell me.
Hold on cuz I'll be right back, you know what
I'm saying. And I'm like, all right, so I'm just
chilling the shit fucking with a homies and you know
what I'm saying. He comes back in like fifteen minutes
with two bad motherfuckers man being a red bone and

(21:56):
a yellow bone. I'm like, oh lord, I'm like I'm
looking at this nigga like nigga. Fuck nigga, I just
forget you, pussy. Nig I used to actually let that
nigga have sex with some of my women for real,
for real. That's how Titan was for you know what
I'm saying, because he wasn't getting it like this like

(22:16):
niggas shit, nigga ain't no fun of the only game
happen none. But we wasn't saying that phrase wasn't nelt hit.
But we are saying, you know the block, get the
cop so way that nigga. You from the block. You
know what I'm saying, get your sock man. He took.
We went to the back house. Man. We walked in
that motherfucker. Man, Nigga looked at me smiling. I'm like, nigga,

(22:36):
what the fuck going on? He said, Come, don't even
worry about a nigga. Whatever you want, they gonna do it.
Get that bomped out man. I'm like, shit, he ain't
gotta tell me nothing else. I get buck naked, man.
Man thoughts both of them motherfuckers up. Man, that motherfucker
and he come back to like about an hour later, man,
and I see him give him two little rocks and

(23:00):
they left I'm like, well you, I'm like, you gave
your motherfuckers that little shit for doing all that, Like, nigga,
I need me some dope, man, I got them. I
got to get in the game. You know what I'm saying.
But a strawberry is a female, you know what I'm saying.
That to give up sex so for dope, you know
what I'm saying. But you know, back then, they was fresh,

(23:24):
you know what I'm saying. It wasn't like well when
they really was berry berries, like after eighty five, eighty six,
like after yeah, yeah, they was. These were like still
had their jobs, still working. They just ran out the money,
you know. But that was my introduction to the strawberries. Man.

(23:46):
And I had I had a I had started staying
at that spot, and I had implemented a little system
the way I had a motherfucking blue light in the
front bedroom window. Whenever that blue light on is cracking,
you know what I'm saying, So I ain't ready to
go even look for no bet. All I had to

(24:07):
do is cut that blue light on, and I guarantee
you was there ten minutes. Motherfucker's at the dope man. Dang,
that was a crazy time home. You know. But my homeboy, uh,
you know, my homie Flick, he come through that motherfucker
h He looked out for me and he gave me

(24:29):
four ounces. You no idea, homie. You know what I'm saying,
You ain't gotta give me nothing back. Rest was his.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's a great start.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Then for his owns and just just put you on
your feet like that, and then you ain't got to
give no money back.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
It was an you know what I'm saying, got in there,
a gang of niggas like that, they got out of jail.
I mean that I do. All I do is give
it to him and tell him here, you don't give
me une back. Just buy your shit for me, you
know what I'm saying. But yeah, but if we ended up,
we'll sell them. We'll sell them mother for coke, cocaine

(25:10):
in PCP. We're making just more money off the PCP
than cocaine. Water was lost because you like you, you know,
you sending that water off to New Yorker motherfucking oh
fucking DC or Texas. You know what I'm saying, You
getting there, You getting like an extra ten fifteen thousand
off a gallon back. No, so in take you say

(25:35):
like you say, like you say, like you spend like
twenty five thousand to do a show. Shit, nigga, you're
gonna make about two three hundred, especially if the water
bomb and you can cut it, cut it. You don't
cut it with that either if you can, even if
you just turning one into two, say you good, you

(25:55):
go do ten galls. Bam you got twenty gallons, ten
extra galleons you know, so so yeah, it was all
good giving y'all.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Uh uh, you know we're very giving your chemistry lesson
right now. That's all we're doing is give.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Yeah, shit, I'll tell you you would.

Speaker 5 (26:14):
You would be surprised how intelligent a lot of motherfuckers.

Speaker 4 (26:19):
On it comes certain interest you feel me still, Uh,
it was a way of life for niggas and like
serious about their business.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Let's just get it up like that because it's business right.

Speaker 3 (26:33):
You make man, you catch from a multi million dollar businesses,
you got logistics of all you got, math involves you
got all kind of stuff and folks, No, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Give a fuck about nothing on me with low riding
fucking bitches, domen and gang back. Yes, when I got
all eighty three you know what I'm saying. That's that's
all it was on Mando. Yeah you he had flip
next he was wearing the mother fucking Jochie this And

(27:01):
I'm like, nigga, don't give a fuck about none of that. Nigga,
I'm gonna get me a khaki suits. Give me some
khaki shuits of five oh one, Kauk Boyd's Stacy Adams.
You know, only thing I tell them, nigga, the only
thing I won't I want the Louis Bell, the Louis Wallach,
a Gucci bel, the Grouccie Walley, all that other shit.
And you know what I'm saying that, I'm know my

(27:22):
I don't give a fuck about that shit.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
So do you remember when the rat things started taking off?
Like you remember when hip hop first started taking off?
A conflict the gangs, the rep Well, you know I
was locked up. I got because I got locked up
in eighty five. You know what I'm saying, Because but
boy Horse Easy cousin he was in the car club
with us, and Easy he was buying this dope from

(27:45):
Fat Horace's cousin. But his cousin ended up getting killed.
And then after his cousin got killed. He started coming
buying dope for me. But that was what he hadn't
they hadn't even start rapping and none of that shit yet,
So Easy was really out in. Easy was really in
the streets now.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, yeah, he was selling dopen shit. Yeah, he bugged
on the boy. All the other niggas were squares, all
of them, Friend, the Dry and Yellow, All all them
niggas were squares. Man.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Yeah, we all everybody little about Easy's affiliation and his
Israel ties to the street. That was es you feel me?
That was, like I said, a lot of niggas who
were said to be or or rappers or whatever they
was in the neighborhoods even before rap shit came along.

Speaker 1 (28:33):
A little kid.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Yeah, guys, man, I got because I ended up catching them,
catching the murder and handsome down in nineteen ain't eighty five.
I was on y'all two years, and man, when I
went to jail, I had like eight nine.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Low riders, all kind of shit. You know what I'm saying.
Gave all that shit to my little brothers, and you
know what they did, fucked it off. But that's another story.
But y'all, I'm went our cop, you know, we had
what we you know, every Fourth of July or January
New Year, we had a low rody picnic. So you know,

(29:09):
we're just having this one was at an answer now,
you know what I'm saying. Fourth of July, and we
went out there and we had set up you know
how everywhere we go we went deet So I probably
add like at least twenty five homies with me, you
know what I'm saying. So we out there were chilling

(29:29):
in some of these valley dudes. This valley dude he
come through, He like, hey, man, y'all wan't bought some water?
Like man. I told him, look, don't say none of
my homeboys, none of that bullshit. Man, none of them, Man,
we don't want that shit. Thirty minutes later, I see
the homie, what fucked up? Man? You know what I'm saying.

(29:51):
So we ended up beating this motherfucker up, you know
what I'm saying. Then after that, you know what I'm saying,
a lot of motherfuckers don't know. But you know, this
is one of the problems why and I had a
problem with the Nigga wreck from Supernatural because back then
he was a majestic too, you know, what I'm saying.

(30:11):
So we have some Valley niggas pulling through the park
and the nigga and then they Red is drunk, you
know what I'm saying. And he leaning all on his
motherfucker car. Motherfucker telling him get off his car, and
he on this man Lowridert. I mean, you don't even
know it. You know, I'm Red like nigga. Fuck you
Woo woo woo, nigga, get out the car, get him

(30:34):
a red get into it. He knocked right out. You
know what I'm saying. I ain't no red like that,
but you know he flagging with a flag, you know
what I'm saying. So once I get involved, all the
loomies get involved, and through that Melee, here's a motherfucker.

(30:55):
You know, the dude rec fighting, He get killed. He
gets sh right there on the spizot. But the thing
is his brother and the passeenger seat. Once I fired
on them food, they got off of Red. Once I
so many homies rushed him. I was I couldn't even
get to him no more. So his brother got out

(31:17):
the car, came around the back of the car, and
I rushed him, Me and the homie kids. He rushed them.
He took off running. We called him about thirty forty
yards away and we've beaten him and we hear gunshots.
I'm like, Dan, you know, we jump up, We let him,
We jump off of him, we shoot straight back to

(31:37):
the car. I'm like, let's go. He's motherfuckers catch me
on the freeway. Man, you know what I'm saying, to
take me kidsy in one of the little homies in
jail for the murder, you know what I'm saying. And
everybody nay, mother know I didn't do that shit. You
know what I'm saying. You know the home one of
the homies did it, but you know the homie like

(31:57):
you know cuz you know, once I get in jail
like sitting word like you want me to turn myself in,
And I'm like, no, you know what I'm saying, that's
the game. I know what I signed up. What the
fuck I signed up? Pop? You know, I know I
didn't do it, So I'm going to try o fuck them.
But they had like three pold niggas from the valley Man.

(32:21):
They come in their line talking about they seen me
pull the trigger. Nigga name I still remember. They three
of them named jor I Many, Tony King, George Harris
and George Lanier still their names still in my motherfucker
head man. They got on the window standing straight loud
on the motherfucker man. But there jug I was looking

(32:46):
at twenty seven to life the judge. But the jury
didn't believe them because the jury sent to judge and
know talking about if I just fired a gun in
the air, could I still be found guilt fucker telling
him Yeah, So they they found me. I think it
was first agree murder, second degree of manslaugh, voluntary manslaugh.

(33:09):
They give me to voluntary me guilty of voluntary manslaughter,
and and I got got thirteen years and went to
the pin. But yeah, that was some cold shit though, man.

Speaker 3 (33:24):
For thirteen just man, that's why people don't know. Man,
it's real serious, man. You can get kind up some
shit in your whole life changed just that quick.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
Man on one man only. It'll only tell you one
motherfucking bad choice. You know what I'm saying, you know,
and any motherfuckers on that boy shit niggas. Man, I
ain't never told on motherfucking my life and I never will.
And he motherfuckers on internet. Oh it's Jesus gains from competitation. Nigga. Man,

(33:53):
these niggasy just don't know Homei'm I'm just so. I'm
some man I swearing. Man, I thy God. I thank
God every day only that he didn't change my life?
Where homie? Because who was accusing me?

Speaker 1 (34:08):
Because I missed that one?

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Who was accusing you of being the snakes? No? The
wage one hundred six hundred the nigga uh from once?
Some nigga from once. I'm just like, hey, man, at
the end of the day, tell me who the fuck
I told?

Speaker 1 (34:28):
So what? So what determines?

Speaker 5 (34:31):
And you know, because today is the day and age
of content, right, because this is the day and age
of you know, like I tell people all the time,
I came from the era that you initiated, so to speak.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
It was different from what I do from dudes like
you and in my ogs or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Why is is?

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Is the so called gangster nigga today so fatuated by
snitching and paperwork and content is That's because it's just the.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
Time for snick man. That's man, man, that she ain't
no more fuck content you want if you want to
come on here and call the motherfucker snitch nigga, Go
deal with it. That's what That's the ere I came from.
Go Jo, handle your right and you go deal with it.
Don't try to throw his name out there hoping somebody

(35:34):
else is gonna jump on the band wagon. Have you
say this nigga snitch. Niggas just go hant because I
ain't never a nigga. I'm always available, you know what
I'm saying. I'm always outside. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
They'll do take in our era.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
If if if there was some uh afterthought of somebody snitching,
getting one of the home he's caught up or getting
us caught up, I don't think we would be bothering
with trying to go get paperwork and go.

Speaker 2 (36:04):
To that paperwork shit is jill see a nigger? Well
if I grew up in the air a nigga for
a niggas you said the nigga about if I say
you snitched in on deal with you. If b homy
come tell me such and such and this, don't it.
This is my homy. Nigga'na believe it. You know what

(36:26):
I'm saying for real, because niggas home me. I'm gonna
tell you something, man, back in all ara, man. Motherfuckers
ain't just throw snitch Jacket's own niggas just to throw
them on them home. If a motherfucker said a nigga snitch,
ninety nine percent of the time that nigga snitchs these

(36:47):
niggas this this shit ain't I'm gonna this shit. Ain't content, homie,
this shit if gonna get somebody killed for real, for real, man,
these niggas think they can't talk to me that shit
and stay out of They don't be nowhere. Motherfuckers don't
be outside. They ain't nowhere where the gates is at.
They ain't going nowhere where nobody, no real but just

(37:10):
real niggas, period. They ain't going nowhere. How many times
any of the niggas you've seen outside doing the motherfucker
a motherfucker on YouTube? You know what I'm saying. If
they doing the YouTube, they buy they cell on a
motherfucking beach somewhere. Thut they ain't outside where all the
people at, where everybody hanging out at. You know what

(37:33):
I'm saying, They talk that shit and they stay the
fuck out of sight, man, Because at the end of
the day, homing motherfuckers just don't know how I mean.
Motherfuckers is just called my phone, homie, like, cause what
you want to do? You don't look, I'm not swelling everything.
I ain't even got talking about niggas from content. I'm

(37:56):
talking about niggas from Meast Coach, niggas from Hoover, niggas
from fire It was Broadway niggas from main Street. Cause
I fuck with everybody on me. You know what I'm
going because you know Compton ain't got no beef for
nobody outside of Coman. You know what I'm saying. I
didn't did time with these niggas. You know what I'm
saying that man low ride with these niggas. So dope

(38:16):
with these niggas. Man, My phone was blowing up, man,
like what you want to do on me? And even
the homies like, cus, what's up? Like, I mean fucking niggas, man,
You know what I'm saying. That's only because I done
changed my motherfucking payoff home me. But believe me, it
beat times on me to where I people want to

(38:37):
go to man for real home. Sometime it'll beat times
on me when the motherfucker have to really pray on it.

Speaker 4 (38:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
You know what I'm saying, cause the nigga ain't using
no motherfucking disrespect. I ain't never using Let let enough
motherfucker talking about the snitching nigga call me a motherfucking
red on. Yes, they just don't know they playing with
fucking fire home, you know what I'm saying, And that
man back the end of the day, though, these niggas

(39:08):
be on so much bullshit, and they be fucking so
many different people homies throwing the later nigga, nigga wonna
pull up on them. Somebody is gonna pull up on them. Man,
they think this shit nigga ain't, but he's thinking. Man,
I don't give a fuck about no nigga. If a
nigga telling us on him, I'm just now gonna fuck
with it and then be fucking with some of my people.

(39:30):
I'm gonna tell my people don't fuck with him, and
if they choose to still fuck with him, then I
didne did my duty, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (39:38):
But it ain't man, my.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Content on me, I be on some whole other shit home.
I be on some some black shit on us coming together,
spending our money together, opening our own banks, businesses, and schools,
and shit like that. Man, I don't give a fucking
with motherfucker told so what fuck you? I don't fuck
with you. So I don't care.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
Now, how important because we could go into some positive stuff.
How important is it for you, Gangster, for you to
go out there and talk to the young kids man,
and tell them about the pitfalls and gang banging and
because you really lived that life.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Man, that city is very important. We all need to
do that shit, man, because at the end of the day, man,
I don't blame these youngsters. Man.

Speaker 1 (40:24):
Do you feel for the way you man?

Speaker 2 (40:30):
Of course I feel.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
I'm pretty sure there was a lot of young niggas
in the hood who looked up to.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
You exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
I feel obligating how these niggas like Gangster in there is.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
I feel obligated on me to get out there and
do what I do on me because at the end
of the day, these young when you take account of
the youngsters coming up, now that it came through the
crack era and everything was fucked up and all the
trauminating been through and they don't know shit. Ain't nobody
teaching them shit? They I don't blame them moments, you

(41:08):
know what I'm saying, you better have some motherfucking empathy, man.
And but you know, for these yongsters out here, man,
it says all these junxs, they don't like the way
they live in. Man. When I jumping up it, you
ain't never heard of nothing about a homie being homeless.

(41:28):
You ain't never heard of no shit about no homie
being homeless. I see these young young kids out here, man,
fifteen fourteen sixteen homeless. Man, Ben, this shit is fucked up.

Speaker 4 (41:40):
Man.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
You know what I'm saying. And my thing is what
I do, man, is you know what I'm saying. I made,
I have made made this a lifetime commitment for me, Homan.
The rest of my life is to try to God
these junsters in the right way and to try to
give back. Man. It's just so fucked up for me
on me because we got all these motherfuckers out here

(42:04):
with influence on me. You know what I'm saying, Nigga.
Ain't nobody asking for y'all money, Nigga while we be
acting for Is you the God that's in the right direction,
putting us with the right people that we need to
talk to, And it's on us to get it. If
we gonna get it. You know what I'm saying. You
got all man, I know so many motherfuckers on me.

(42:25):
We got a whole of Man, I'm gonna tell you,
we got a whole lot of hate motherfuckers, especially California Man,
California Man, California Man, these motherfuckers. Yeah, just us art,
you'reting it. Let's talk. Gonna be on topever, you ain't
gonna be on topever, nigga, somebody gonna take your place, gangs.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
So let me ask you this man, this ain't to
speak on nobody else.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Business like.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
Big You had his program down there where he was
getting money to you know, go help the different people
and everything. They don't have nothing like they jumping off
from Compton.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Whatever I got, mom right now, I've been having uh.
I do you basketball? Everything is free for make the
fifteen and and I do life skill classes Monday, Wednesdays
and Friday's. And as long as they come to class Monday,
Wednesday and Friday and do the work, I give them

(43:20):
fifty dollars every Friday. You know they're pretty kids like
in junior high and hoche.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
All that stuff makes a difference, man, because I do
think do you feel like the ogs have kind of
let the kids down today.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Man, this it receiving seasons. That's what I have a
problem with right there when you say, oh, g you
know why, because it's like three three folk generations out
of the ogs, what what was the responsibility? Because I'm

(43:59):
second the race. My own gave it to me the
right way. I gave it to the homies done to
me the right way, and they gave it to the
homies under them the right way. After that it went crazy.
So for motherfuckers always hollering, old jeez, it's two three
it's two three generations between that.

Speaker 3 (44:21):
I figured, let me let me rephrase that. Then, yeah,
so you think you so you're seeing that generation probably
like from eighty nine to ninety when that crack area
was really popping off, You think that that was the
generation lost it.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
I'm gonna say, well, I'm gonna say, you know, because
I got locked out for that federal case in two
thousand and one, you know, my homies just still solid,
all the neiggas that I knew and competent. It wasn't there.
It ain't nothing like it it is now. You know
what I'm saying. I'm gonna say doing like probably two
thousand and three old coming forward, you know.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
You know, and that's like, you're right, because it's unfair
to blame it's unfair to blame your generation because that
was a long time ago. And you know what, you
gotta forgive me. I'm in my fifties now, this seems
just like yesterday. So we think about the eighties, eight
you gotta figure it cash now that the thirties that
come way after that.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
You know, yet, Jeff what I'm saying. It's like everybody
always say the old Jeez, but but no, it aint
it's it's old you know, three folks. You gotta say everybody,
you know, because once old Jeez gave it to us,
you know what I'm saying, And we gave it to
the homies up under us, the bet Jeeves, because when

(45:36):
I started, we was called baby Crips. You know what
I'm saying. You know, gave me my name Baby Jason,
cause you know, I when I first started off, I
called myself cool Breeze. I thought I thought I was

(45:59):
about in the world. Then I'm like, no, fuck that,
So then I started calling myself Gangster Fred. But then
another homie from Lynnwood was calling his self Gangster Fred
and he saw it coming. He came into the hood
and started claiming the hood. And since he was older
than me, Turtle was like, come on, man, you know,
just let the cause out their name. I'm like, man,

(46:21):
I'm there before this nigga. Man, He like, don't worry
about that, homie. If we're gonna call you baby games,
I'm like, I fuck it, Okay, I rolled with that,
you know what I'm saying. So you know that's how
I got my name. You know what I'm saying from
Naomie Turtle. Now, let me let me ask you this

(46:45):
huh do with what you say?

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Has been the biggest hindrance? Like like you saw, you
saw what happened the big u big you got locked up?

Speaker 4 (46:56):
Right?

Speaker 1 (46:59):
Why is this?

Speaker 3 (47:00):
It's so hard to have leadership out there? To an
established leadership. Do you think people in LA would actually
listen to one any one person because it ain't no
such thing, you know, like you back East eight. They
may have a person that's like the King of New York,
the one person that LA can't have.

Speaker 2 (47:14):
That man, I think it.

Speaker 7 (47:15):
Looks like Larry Rulvers or you know that you know
what that was that was that was, you know where
they that don't even work even with him, because at
the end of the day, everybody wasn't none to his organization,
so you always have opposition.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
They had enemies too, so you know he was just like, oh,
I'll say one person for that one organization. But now
it could never be like that no more, only because
too much shit than having times and change and the mentality.
Oh they know, the motherfucker's today ain't nothing. Ain't nothing

(47:54):
like the mentality that we got. You know what I'm saying,
all mentality on me is why he did from these
other these youngsters out here. Man.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Let me tell you these youngs, they is vicious, man,
these junksters today, I'm talking about these they youngsters, they
are vicious.

Speaker 4 (48:12):
Man.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
I'm gonna tell you something, Man, where I work at, Man,
these youngsters, Man, I ain't talking about the basketball shit
I do, or the or the life skills whoever I
work at. Man, these junksters lost. Man, they ain't got nothing.
You know, they ain't got no respect. You know what

(48:34):
I'm saying. I don't worry about it because you know
they are. I'm always the man mind. But for where
I work at, for the other motherfuckers around.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
You gotta deal with them.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
They don't got no fucking respect, man, none. But I'm
talking about starting that like from twelve years old. These
motherfuckers ain't dang. They think they know everything and they
don't know shit might win move.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
It's a different for us as youngsters coming up. Why
was it different?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
It was different for us home because we grew up
knowing that we had to respect their elders. You know,
to this day, I still don't curse in front of
my mother and I'm sixty two years old.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
That's what I say is the generational gap because we
had those big mamas, the grandmamas, the uncles, nichol.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
You know, you know, the big mama vimin ones that
have the family together, set of rules.

Speaker 5 (49:39):
I guess that came when when our parents migrated from
the South and they came to com Thing and you know,
we would get together and family still congregated, we all
hooked up. It was still that sense of respect. Like
I knew as a kid, I won't give a fuck.

(50:00):
I was out on the block trying to be hard.
You come home and be talking crazy and cussing, and
I couldn't walk in the house with the hood on
my sweatshirt couldn't be sagging or wearing backwards and ship
like that, I probably get knocked the fuck out by
one of my uncle.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Or my mind. If motherfucker you even suck his teeth,
he's getting the ship snapped on up. No, yeah, for real,
you bet you know what I'm saying, right, You bet not.
You're no mumbling. I feared that switch tree out in
the fuck you feel me? You bet not? No, momling, But.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
There was a time that I thought I was a badass.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
You get me.

Speaker 5 (50:47):
Well, No, if I still was that bad to overstep
that boundary now with the block, fuck that you get me?
I don't know if that was that hard at twelve,
thirteen or fourteen, Man, I'm.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Still not that hard than sixty two. He Mama, Mama
still right, Hey, Mama, still right even once she's wrong, exactly, Yeah, mercy.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
That.

Speaker 5 (51:19):
I don't know if the youth today give that much respect.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
Man. I'm gonna tell your stuff. Man, I'm gonna see this.
It's two things that I tell these youth. Man. One
of them is motherfucker always had the moto. He gotta
earn my respect. My motherfucker got to earn your respect.
It's too many motherfuckers you gonna run into through life
to where everybody you know, got to earn your respect.

(51:46):
Respects as as men. Respect should be given until the
motherfucker prove itself different. Because I when I grew when
I was growing up, I should say that same dumb
shit motherfucker got to earn it at the end of
the day when you become a man. You know what
I'm saying. You were supposed to you supposed to respect
every man as a man. And because you don't know

(52:07):
what a man to do, and you better not underestimating
no man because there's plenty of motherfuckers and that cemetery fundestimate. Man,
I tell him, donah respect every man unless he prove
itself different. You know what I'm saying. Then you got you, man.
If you don't, you're gonna be in trouble. Man.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
And I think you again again right quick.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Like you said, the attitude was nigga need to earn
my respect, But I don't think I present I would
present that attitude to my grandfather. You give me at
sixteen seventeen banging in content then going.

Speaker 1 (52:46):
Down sippy having that attitude like nigga. Look at what
he was done.

Speaker 5 (52:53):
You feel me, I'm a That's where I still say
there was a certain aspect of respect he had even
as mother.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That was eighteen nineteen.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Hard at fuck. There was just motherfuckers that we.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
Talked the coach. So we we demand the respect.

Speaker 1 (53:11):
Dun't how much the damn respect from another nigga that
I do.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
We when we was growing up. When we was growing up, Homie,
we was game bangers. So we demand the respectact then
you know, fufed off the top. You know what I'm saying,
but respect. But the truth of the fact is we
should respect every man as a man until he proved
himself different. And this is one mother thing I tell

(53:37):
these youngsters, man. I tell them, man, I tell him,
I'm like, listen, man, our brother be loved in feared. Man.
When the motherfucker love you, they gonna look out for you.
If they know a nigga trying to do something to you,
come get you, they gonna tell you. But if a

(53:58):
motherfucker feel you, he wants you out the way. If
a motherfucker fear you home, he walked you out the way. Man.
You know what I'm saying. So I'll be telling these
younger men, hey, you better try to make sure motherfucker
love you.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
That's real talk. That's real talk.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
You know what.

Speaker 3 (54:18):
I'm gonna go back to something, and here it is
right here. I remember when I went to school, when
I went to elementary. You of I remember this too.
If you fucked up in school, you got swatted, you got.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (54:34):
Wait, the swats wasn't no joke, man, And if they
called your house, you got another ass book when you
went home, she was in the neighborhood sucking up, and
one of your mama's friends saw you fucking up, she
was gonna whook your ass. Yeah, I just think, man,
when they started making it against oh but kids got rights,

(54:54):
they can do this and start doing that.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
It was like.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Discipline the way. See, it's a difference between disciplating abuse home.

Speaker 1 (55:05):
Oh yeah, for real, you.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
Know what I'm saying. I didn't got my ass. We
plenty times a bout my mama, And I know it
wasn't no beau or abuse. He was disciplined. Abuse is
when't you just beating the motherfucker at random for nothing?

Speaker 3 (55:19):
And that's what that's them. What they did was people
didn't want to do their jobs. No more as far
as investigating stuff, right, because the mama whooping her son's
ass and being beligerent, it ain't no abuse. She saving
his life actually, but just just pushed the little boy
in the mam because he looked like his daddy and
she can't stand the daddy and she fucking him up.

(55:40):
That's abuse right there. Right, that's a different thing, right,
I think. Man, when they cheerd that, and you made
a point by the father's not being no, I'm gonna
tell you some of these mamas were scared of these sons.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Yeah, yeah, he was. But you know, it's all about
how you raise your kids. They'll won't know what I'm
saying because I wouldn't give a fuck. I'm not doing.
I'm not tolerating no disrespect from my kid. I don't
give a damn over man, You don't know. It's all
about how you raise your kid. Man, you know what

(56:14):
I'm saying, because you know, man's my mama wasn't no joke,
you know, so heil put but gass, felt ass, switched
ass whatever that asps he could.

Speaker 8 (56:28):
Hey, man, But but it was only when it will
It was only when I when I deserved it, though
exactly you know what I'm saying, It was only because
I had did something I ain't had no business doing.

Speaker 1 (56:41):
So you did some ship that you damn so knock.

Speaker 2 (56:45):
And I was talking one of my homies the other
day and he had told me that his son called
the police on his wife on his mother down who
she pulled a knife only and his motherfucker left me
years old. Oh man, I'm like, man.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
That's crazy, repeater back games.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
You kind of went out, I say, my homies son
called the police on his wife talking about she pulled
a knife only line and he's actual eleven years old,
he just eleven years old. Did she go to jail? No,
she didn't go to jail. The police ship for the drive.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
But it's the fact, what then think they can do
like me, That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
That's walk as a kid, I didn't go to think.

Speaker 1 (57:37):
Let me go line, go go car not one one.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Then, Look, I don't give a fuck. You're gonna have
to call the police again because I'm finna whoop this ass.
My ass whooped because I did some ship.

Speaker 5 (57:50):
So of course he probably did some ship that he
don't want to get his ass whooped, or he's getting
rid of disciplined, he.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Bad, or shoot that he was mad because she took
the PlayStation.

Speaker 5 (58:02):
Yeah, so I'm gonna jump on the fall because I
know in this day and age, a child can yell
wolf and everybody, cause you remember Peter Wolf. If I
just ship, everybody gonna come running. Well, that's the narrative today.
So wolf, there's a wolf outside, God damn it. And
next thing you know, nigga, the whole county shotguns and everybody.

Speaker 2 (58:25):
They all.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Then because the motherfucker yelled this wolf, not no proof
or nothing, because they know they can do it.

Speaker 2 (58:33):
Me, is it?

Speaker 5 (58:35):
I knew I'd probably get the ship beat out of
me again if I did some ship like that.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Ain't nothing like that never er my mind.

Speaker 1 (58:42):
I'm gonna call you.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
I'm gonna take this ass whooping for doing for for
doing something I knew I shouldn't have been doing in
the first place. I take that and then gonna take
my ass to sleep tonight at that ain't gonna be
fucked you, uh with it said, it's a disparent narrative
with the children today because they know what's at state.

Speaker 3 (59:06):
If they help. I want to ask you a question, gangster.
Maybe you can't answer this. It's a deep question though,
because you said something earlier about California. I knew a lot.
I got a lot of homeboys around the country. I
got homeboys in New York, A copialy attest this. We
got homeboys in New York, got homeboys in Atlanta, Texas,

(59:27):
you know, Florida, all over the country, Chicago, Detroit. It
seemed like, man, nobody hates their own worse than California.
Where do you think that come from? I don't get me,
don't get me wrong. It's always going to be a
hater lurking somewhere right.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Like.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
Man, this is the point I just think, you know,
I think I think California motherfucker's just selfish, you know,
you know what I'm saying. And the motherfuckers that do
get it, they want to make they want to and
keep it and don't want nobody else to have it,
you know, now, don't I'm I'm gonna speak on this anyway.

(01:00:08):
I don't kill fuck And just like Snow got death
row back, man, fuck all of them old motherfuckers that
you know what I'm saying, don't get some new motherfucking
blood and put up in there, man, and bring some
new gentlemen, some new generations about these youngsters up, man,
Cause just like this with me, Helmi, if you win.

Speaker 3 (01:00:29):
I win.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
You on my label. If you win out win you
know what I'm saying. Regardless, Yeah, we can always do
the old school shows because I love old school shows.
You know what I'm saying. But what happened to that
motherfucker that was singing like Marvin Gate? You remember that motherfucker?

Speaker 5 (01:00:49):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
I remember yet October London?

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
He talk?

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Yeah, what happened to that motherfucker?

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
He goes have been on the Snoop You know, I
think he wanted. I think he might have on the Grammy.
I think Snoop being right by. I think he came
up up from the Snoop's label. I think he for
the leave me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
Know what I'm saying home Man? Where he at? Seius?
What album at? I'm just sing Yeah, it's just like, man,
I'm gonna tell you when it comes to Southern California, Homi,
motherfuckers is selfish. Man. They don't want to come together, man,
cause just like this always been like this, homie. That's

(01:01:28):
why when I was in the dope game, always looked
out for motherfucker's only because I already knew that. You
know what I'm saying, I ain't gonna be where I'm
gonna be at forever. You know what I'm saying. And
I'm like, yeah, man, nigga, if I got it, you
can get it. I ain't tributing. Let's spread the wealth. Man.
I didnet looked out for me and anybody to know me, Homi,

(01:01:50):
they'll tell you'all have looked out for niggas from everywhere,
not just comfort. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:01:56):
I'm gonna tell you this, and this is stuff that
I wouldn't as first hand. I've seen people block people
from getting shows. The only guy I know this and
that can got the power to do shows that the
only one I don't ever seen not block nobody's Mac
Tin mac t And because he gonna call me to
ask the many man he ate up and tell him
to do this, he jailed felling me up. You know people,

(01:02:17):
He's asked me to actually go out and get people right.
And I'm gonna tell you something moment. I don't know,
man onie.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
I know what some people who gotta feel like they
got enough money they say fuck it for at the
end of the day, Man, that West SO connection wasn't
no joke, man, you know what I'm saying, and that
was that that West I connection wasn't no just like
seem W.

Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
Wasn't no joke.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
You know what I'm saying. Both of them motherfuckers. Man, Man,
both of them motherfuckers should be on the road right now.

Speaker 3 (01:02:56):
Hey that man is see but go again, because I'm
gonna tell you what EU and Pious had they propped EPMB,
they put that stuff to decide they want to did
them shows. They wouldn't got that they missed each other
this day, but they gonna do them shows though.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
But when you feel like you got double hand and
you got all the money on me and you don't
have to do it, you know what I'm saying, because
you know, because what back to then and Ice Cuol
fell out about. Man, you know what I'm saying, Man,
that shit that shouldn't have missing the men. They shouldn't
take all these many years on me. You know what

(01:03:34):
I'm saying, to be like, fuck that, man, Let's get
this money. You know what I'm said for real.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Well, you know what, man, I'm gonna take you this.
I don't know what happened with this stuff, but Q
got paper, man, Q might be able to say why,
that's why. That's why he might be able to say
I don't feel like doing something. That's you know what
I'm saying. That's why he can say fuck it, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:03:55):
But if eating out of that paper, I guarantee you
they ask would have been bag on the road. H
see it. But you know it wasn't nothing but a misunderstanding,
you know what I'm saying. Ooh with in it was
between Mac Tanner and and his his his wife brother.
It really wasn't even none of his business, you know

(01:04:16):
what I'm saying, Because one O had told the nigga
his brother was on some bullshit. But hey, you know
everybody gotta got that story. I guess for at end
of the day. Niggative ship we've been going through, we've
been making these records, we've been in the studio. We
supposed to be boys that ain't shit. They shouldn't have
been able to be talked off man. H Hey, that

(01:04:40):
ship should have been able, that should have been able
to be resolved because that marn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:49):
I appreciate you brother man for coming on.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
We had to do this in person. Man, one time.
It's a whole you know, it's all good.

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
We gotta do it in person. Man, I need to
be there in person. As you know, we were too
close to each other not to make that happen. You
know what, I'm take it again. It's a whole lot
of most ship we ain't talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
So you know, you know, two in person.

Speaker 3 (01:05:14):
Yeah, yeah, show in the person that man and letting
know man, y'all make sure man, y'all like man, y'all
share this man.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
Subscribe, tell a friend about it, and all that. Man
that we out of here. Baby, y'all stay up, peace out.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:05:29):
That concludes another episode of The Gainst the Chronicles podcast.
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