Tezlyn Figaro: President Trump Is Too Gangster For The Democrats

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(00:41):
what eight tonight, man, we got a special guest. Man.
You know, I don't claim to be no political pun then,
I know you said when I sent you the thing
for the show. Now you said, Steve, what the hell
is all this? Man? I don't know nothing about none
of this. You know, we don't know. But when you
have somebody you know that does know a lot about politics.
You know, she's the she's political correspondent for provoting news.

(01:02):
The homegrowl testna for girl tears. What's happening with you?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
What's happening? I'm the homegirl? What's up? Everybody?

Speaker 4 (01:07):
It's so good to be back back with you, back
with all of the gangs of chronicles. Folks, it's been
a minute. I think it's been a couple of years.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Couple of years here, and.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
That's your Fault's had me back, not agency.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
It's my fault, for sure. It's my fault for sure.
But I'm bringing you in with the count now. You know,
I was in the barbershop. It made me hit you
up tears. I was in the barbershop and I just
heard so much misinformation. No, I'm not a political pundit, right,
I don't claim to be if that's not my game
by call you and ask you when I want to
know something. But I heard a lot of stuff that

(01:46):
was just misinformation, And I said, you know what I
think is important man, that we put the reel out
there and let people in our community know where's real
and what's not real. Because, like I told somebody, you know, yeah,
Donald Trump is the president elect, but he can't just
do what he want want to do. Mm hmmm, am
my rights to a certain extent.

Speaker 4 (02:04):
To a certain extent, keep coming, y'all must have been
talking about this on the back end. Let's let's let's
have a conversation in the g way the way that
we understand it best. He's he's pushing the mean line.
You know what I mean, the idea. I think you're
looking at what previous presidents have done. What president previous

(02:25):
presidents have you know what they would say, respect the constitution,
respect the process, you know, go through Congress to get
everything done. But Donald Trump has signed a plethora of
executive orders. Uh, and he plans to sign over two hundred. Now,
executive orders mean he coming on the block. He's saying, hey,
this is what it is. We're switching it up. We're

(02:47):
gonna do it my way. What many would call a dictatorship,
which is saying, I'm not gonna wory about running nothing
by the Congress, which means the House and the Senate.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Let's do the game.

Speaker 4 (02:56):
You know, I love coming on gangs, the chronic Let's
do it the gangs, the chronic wall. He ain't run
an nothing, bottle of homies. Don't worry about the ogs.
The BG's the whoever the big home in the building.
He said, this is how it's gonna be. I'm pushing
the line. Everybody fall in line. Now, to your point,
that doesn't mean he won't be challenged. It doesn't mean that,
right now twenty over twenty state attorneys are challenging many

(03:21):
of the executive orders that he had won, in particular
in birthright citizenship. It doesn't mean that Democrats won't say,
you know what, we're gonna make sure that this doesn't
come into law. So he's doing two things, and I
just kind of want to make it really simple and plain.
There are some things that executive order, I'm putting it
into action. There's some things that he's just writing as

(03:41):
a way to change the ideology the thinking of things.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And then there's some things.

Speaker 4 (03:47):
That will have to actually go through law and Congress
will have to pass.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
But he controls Congress, he controls the House and the Senate,
so he kind of doing what he wanted to do.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
No, he can do so he can gave his way
in there. Now, you know, I know, the big talk
man with him has been border security. And like I
was explaining that, I was explaining to somebody, it's like
the whole world comes in illegally to America through Mexico,
so to speak.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
Right, I wouldn't say the whole world, but I'm following.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
You, yeah, because you know where else they.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean, people come from Haiti, people come from other states.
People come from other I mean other It's not just Mexico. Now,
if you want to talk about California, you know what
you're in close proximity to, Yes, but Mexico is usually
who gets.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Talked about the most. But no, well, immigrants come from
all over the world.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yeah, So when he talk about border security, that's what
I'm saying, he's not just talking about Mexico. He gotta
be talking about Miami because they got a lot of
stuff going on, a lot of people coming in through there.
So as he talking about all around, like.

Speaker 4 (04:49):
Just security all around. But he has a very targeted focus.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
On Mexico, all right, Yeah, that from the jump. He's
very he's very adamant about the border in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, very hyper focused. Yeah for sure.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
Because when you look at the states, I'm like Texas
for example, that has really you know, in the Republican
Party really pushed the line about that and having too many,
you know, immigrants in the state of Texas, and a
lot of the governors that sent the immigrants down to
Chicago and New York and LA and all that came

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from Texas, which is Mexico. So there's a hyper focus
but of course there's immigrants that come, you know, from
white immigrants that come from all over the world.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Hyper focused on Mexico.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
There's a real big issue with Mexico and talking about
the southern border.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
You know, now with all that, you know, tears and out,
we do have to have our border secure. You know,
that's important. You know, our country security is important. But
when he starts talking about like stuff like ending birth right,
you know, citizenship, some of that. You know, I thought,
I said, damn, So if a kid is born over here,
he's not an American citizen anymore? Is that? Can you

(06:05):
clarify that in a little bit?

Speaker 4 (06:06):
Okay, so in birthright citizenship, what he's trying to change
in the fourteenth Amendment is saying that if your parent,
your mother, and your father, if they were an illegal immigrant,
he's used that term back to using a legal immigrant
if they are not a citizen. If the parent and
the father, or if they're over here on a temporary status,

(06:28):
the child will not be a citizen, whereas previous previous policy.
I want to make the distinction between with Biden with
the fourteenth Amendment in the Constitution, like there's going to
be some challenges on that because he's trying to change
the constitution. So there is going to be some challenges
on that. Will that be passed in the law, Will

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the attorneys allow it? Will some state attorneys challenge that,
which they've already done. Twenty state attorneys have already are
already challenging this. I want to be very clear what
we're talking about. The things we're talking about are the
things that he wants to do that he's wrote basically
said I'm going to do this executive order to do it.
It has not been effected yet because the seal has

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a process to go through, and that's probably where you're saying,
you know, he can't just do whatever you want to do.
There is a process. But I don't want to confuse
people and not and not and miss miss. I don't
want people to get the understanding that Trump does have
the House and the Senate. So if these are things
he's wanting to push these still, this seal can be

(07:31):
very likely. He also people would argue that he has
control of the Supreme Court, you know, because there's conservative
judges on the Supreme Court the Democrat judges, so Trump
has effectively locked down every single level. So if he says,
this is something he wants to make happen. He got
all his people in place to make that happen. But
I want to make the distinction as we're going through.
But the end birthright citizenship is saying that if your

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parents are not a legal citizen, or if they're just
overy temporary, the child is not. Now the concern that
attorneys have, legal scholars have, they're saying that can be
a slippery slope. Not not as of right now, but
imagine if they went back and said that everybody who
was ever over here, you know, from somebody that was

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not a citizen of this nation, which is why the
fourteenth Amendment was put into place to actually we were
included in that as well, to make us actual citizens
when we were enslaved. People are concerned about how far
back can they really go with that.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Can it affect other people like black Americans?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
You know, I'd be real That's what that was one
of the conversations in the barbershop. They said, when they
trying to send this.

Speaker 4 (08:37):
From over here, I mean, legal scholars are saying it
it again. I don't want to say it's some possibility
for people to just say, oh man, they go. You know,
I want to be very clear on how I'm giving
this nation. It's a slippery slope. Let me give you
a good example to take it out of this. You
remember when there was a time you couldn't smoke at all,
you know, in buildings or restaurants. I mean, well, you
could smoke. You could smoke wherever you wanted to smoke.

(08:59):
You spoke a rest, you smoke wherever you want to be.
And remember how that policy went from smoking wherever you
want to to, then smoking twenty five away from the building,
then twenty five feet to no.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Smoking at all.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
So policy has a way of coming out and being
one thing because they want to test it out that
there is always a possibility for something to get, you know,
to go extreme. There's always a possibility to say, if
we're gonna apply this to them, why not are we
applying it to everyone? Right now, it's saying your first generation,
your mother, your father. Legal scholars are saying, well, what

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about if it go all the way back to your grandfather,
your great great grandfather, your great great great great grandfather,
who were not citizens considered citizens in this country when
they were enslaved, which is why the fourteenth men was
putting a place in the first time in the first place.
So when you hear people having that conversation with their
saying is how do we know this is not going
to get more and more aggressive like we saw with

(09:57):
Roe versus Wade when they actually did, you know, turned
back row versus Way, which is abortion.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
So when you got everybody.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
On lock, the House, the Senate, the court, the possibility
of anything can happen. That's a very real concern that
people need to be concerned about.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Yeah, because I've been having conversations with some of the
Mexican homies and I was talking when the Meskan homies
to day and he told me, he said, Man, i
haven't been over here for forty eight years, and I'm
not a citizen. He's just now kind of fine to know.
He said, I'm not a citizen, bro, I never got
my stuff and I've been over here since I was
a year old.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Well, he would absolutely, he absolutely could be affected because
so he's.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Trying to go get his stuff right. He's trying to
get it right now. But I've told all the homies,
I said, man, y'all, but to make sure your paperwork
is straight.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Well, some people gonna make sure the papers work straight
and gonna end up getting deported. I'm just being out
there because a lot of that in the end, birthright
citizenship is saying that while you're waiting on your paperwork,
you're gonna have to go back to your home land.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
It ain't none of that.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
No more about get your paperwork right and just sit
over here and trying to end all that.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
You're gonna get your paperwork when you get sent back.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
So when if you if people are going to get
their paperwork straight, they might be getting snatched up.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
I mean, I'm just being straight up that.

Speaker 4 (11:07):
That's that's how serious they are about this policy.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
So how how fast does something like an executive order
come into effect?

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Well, he signed many of this right effective right now today,
So when he changed the So so a couple of
things here, and it depends on exactly what we're talking about,
because there's over two hundred and so there can be
some that's gonna take, you know, going through Congress. He
signed one in the law today that's gonna take going
through Congress, you know, to say okay, we want to

(11:37):
make this a law. There's also policy that has nothing
to do with changing the law. He's just changing out. Okay,
who's gonna be the borders are now, you know who's
gonna be over immigration? Now, I'm going to make ice
you know, the immigration services. Now we're gonna tell them
to be more aggressive with it. So I want I
don't want to give too much of people to consumes.

(11:58):
I want to confuse people. But each executive order or
policy or whatever it is has its own you know,
route on on on making it law, or it might
be something effective like right now with him directing, uh,
you know, federal employees to now you don't have a
hiring freeze and nobody, you know, they don't want anybody

(12:19):
to hire hire anybody till they figure out how to
save money. People might confuse that and think that's an
executive order, but it's not because he's also putting people
in place over these different departments as well. So it
really does depend on what it is and what we're
talking about.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
Okay, so with this man's deportation, it's gonna get real outed.

Speaker 4 (12:37):
Then it's gonna get real real at there that is
he absolutely has control over.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
So you might and did.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
On on border control and you know, uh, not locking
up families and you know, giving people a chance to
come over seek asylum. He's reversing all of that that
he ran That's literally what he ran on. That was
the main thing he ran on. And he's doing exactly
what he promised. Those who voted for him, what they want,
what he wanted them to do, what they wanted to.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
And largely it was a a lot of Hispanic voters
that voted for him.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yes, And I don't know why people.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
I'm glad you brought that up still because people keep saying, oh,
they gonna find out. Let's be really clear, the Hispanic
voters that voted for Donald Trump were legal Hispanic for
the most part, legal Hispanic voters. People love doing this, bem.
They gonna fuck around and find out. No, they especially
in Florida. Let's be very clear about this. The Hispanic

(13:32):
voting block, it's fifty to fifty. They are certainly not
a monolith, meaning they don't all vote the same. The
Hispanics in Florida, the Cubans in Florida, they absolutely are
conservative Republican. They are absolutely say that if you if
we had to get our paperwork, we want you to

(13:52):
get your paperwork. They absolutely do want to do not
want to have to compete, you know, with with non
citizens of Hispanic origin. They absolutely voted for Trump because
to them Cuba, the way that the left is going,
the Democrats are going, it reminds them of socialism. So
they are very afraid of a socialist society. So the Hispanics,

(14:16):
that's why people Hispanics has many, many, many different, you know,
sub groups, not just Hispanic versus your Hispanics who are
in California that largely vote Democrat. The Hispanics in California
who are coming from the Mexico border, you know, Mexico,
have a different ideology. They're saying, I want to bring

(14:38):
my cousin over, I want to bring my So these
two groups voted very different. So people are not proving
a point where I've seen all these videos on TikTok oh,
Hispanis are finding out that's exactly what they wanted. And
what has also happened still in eight this ideology has
gone beyond just in Florida. In New York, Hispanics went
on record, you know, of saying and New York is

(15:01):
one of the most democrat liberal cities in the country.
Hispanics went on record saying and you can look at
many clints saying I'm tired of my business compete. If
I had to come over here and get my paperwork
and do everything I needed to do, then they need
to do the same thing. I'm tired of competing with them,
same thing in Arizona. Arizona, which is by California, Nevada,
which is by California. Those Hispanics voted for Trump in

(15:25):
large amounts, so we are not talking about California.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
So the people you talking to in California are not the.

Speaker 4 (15:30):
Same in Arizona, in Nevada and in Florida, totally different populations.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
Yeah, you know, and I know none of us don't
hear Hispanics, So not trying to speak for them. What
do you think brought along in that shift?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
It's all well, if you talk about it's not that
speaking that the data is out there.

Speaker 2 (15:51):
So when you talk. So there's two things.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
You have an ideology which is conservative, which is mean
this is what I believe. I believe in God I
believe and uh, no abortion I believe and carrying you know,
right rights to gun. The conservative mindset, which, by the way,
black people traditionally were raised under conservative values.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
Traditionally. That's just a fact.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Grandma and them, great grandma and them. If you came
from any family that said you're gonna go to church
on Sunday, you're gonna go to meeting on Wednesday. On Thursday,
you're going to crime rehearsal. My grandmother, who's ninety three
years old, swears up and now she's a democrat. Her ideology,
and I tell this all the time, your ideology is

(16:39):
absolutely conservative, is that you self employed. Her entire life,
my grandfather was self employed, that owned their own business,
never been on any government assistance, no welfare, no nothing.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Very conservative.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
And how they eat, how they drink. Literally you get
four ounces of juice. Ain't none of that going back
and forth to the to the direct there ain't none
of that. Eat your old meal on Sunday morning. If
you don't eat that old meal all the way, guess
what you're eating for lunch, old meal, you're gonna finish that.
They believe in sitting your own bottom. They believe in
giving to the poor, but they would not give it

(17:11):
to me, because if you got yourself in that situation,
you would figure out how to get your way out.
They are totally pull yourself out of bootstraps. They believe
in God first, they don't believe in same sex marriage.
They are absolutely the epitome of conservative she bums them
And what.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
You was just described was me all of our grand parents,
my grandparents.

Speaker 4 (17:32):
Yes, yes, black people are largely moderate or conservative on
our fundamental beliefs. Now, a Republican, which is why you
kind of gott to make the difference between even though
they're the same, it's not really in when I'm explaining
this context. A Republican is saying, you know this policy
business probit and that's why you'll see, you know, I

(17:54):
got a tax break or I like the business initiatives
I got. You remember when nas And and jay Z
did the Republican Democrat you know record many many many
years ago. Oh, people that are about the bag, People
that are about you know, the second people. They may
be Republican, but they may not be conservative in their ideology,
meaning they may not have a problem with abortion, they

(18:15):
may not have a problem with same sex's marri but
they're Republican when it comes to their bag.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
I just want to make that decison.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
We saw a lot of that this year, right, So.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
When you ask about the Hispanic population. It's not about
speaking for them, it's this is just data. The cultural
Hispanic population in large, not all, but particularly Cuban, particularly
those who voted Conservative and Republican, believe in family values.
Remember they're largely Catholic. Catholics don't believe in abortion. Catholics

(18:47):
believe in marriage. Catholics believe in same same thing with Christianity.
But Catholics in the Hispanic community largely believe in family first,
God first, which.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Is why, just being real, see a lot of children.
They don't believe in abortion.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
You'll see them living together and you know seven the
big big family values.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
And so when you start talking about.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
Conservative values, the Spanish population is very much in line
with those values.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
And but they're also.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
In line many of them are in line with the
Republican side of it, which is being a business. You
look at Florida and the most successful business owners in
construction are Hispanic businesses. They're not just putting this Spanics building,
you know, on the ground. They run these businesses. You know,

(19:38):
I lived in Florida. It was my political stomping ground,
and we always had to compete black businesses. Black construction
business always have to be So Hispanics in Florida very
much in the construction business, do very well when they
say so. They may not care about abortion or this
or that, but they may be like, from a Republican standpoint,
I'm aligning myself with my money, which is a Republican push.

(20:00):
So the Hispanic population, to be honest with you, they
are voting in line with their culture, but fifty percent
of them are liberal. Whereas when you compare that to
the black voter. I want to be clear about this,
I'm not talking about black people that don't vote, black
people that are not a part of the process. I'm
only talking about the black voter, which is not the

(20:20):
same as all black people. The black voter has been
largely liberal. Now why that makes a difference. Still, even
though black people were largely brought up on conservative values,
all the things that we talked about with Grandma and
all of that, black people also are one of our culture,
is one of the most compassionate groups of people because

(20:42):
of all of the things that we've been through. So
my grandmother, as conservative as she is, she still votes
Democrats because she thinks Republican US are mean. She thinks
they don't care about the poor enough. She thinks they're
not concerned about the least of these enough. She thinks that,
you know, everybody should love everybody. She doesn't believe in
same sex's mayor, she still would love and she had

(21:02):
a great a gay son, she would love.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Them the same.

Speaker 4 (21:04):
So Black people largely are very compassionate. Let's think about everybody,
not our own interests. Let's think about everybody as a whole.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Think about it.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
When you go to your aunt's house, you go to
Big Bama's house, when it's time for Thanksgiving dinner, the
first thing they do is gonna set a plate aside
for somebody who ain't there. That's a common thing. You
know what, I let me set this aciety because you
know still gonna run late. Why he can't be here
with everybody else, Why we gotta set and say, well,
let me put a bunch of plates on top of

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the refrigerator for all the people that wasn't there. So
our mindset, that's a universal thing. So when you think
about politics, that's how Black people think about they politics. Well,
I'm good, but let me make your neighbor good up
the street. Let me make sure so we don't always
vote our self interests, and I'm here to say that
black people should vote our self interest.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
So what's happened.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Now is black people have been riding for every other community,
and now they see with this last election, while you
out of there ryding for every other.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
Community, they riding for themselves. And I ain't mad because
you are supposed to ride for you what the Chris
look like? Riding for the Bluds, what the Bluffs is like? Ryan?

Speaker 4 (22:11):
For you should be pushing your own line on your
own community, on what best serves you. So people are
disappointed that white women didn't vote the interests that.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
You thought they should have voted.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
They voted what makes what's gonna make their community better,
which is making sure white men are in power.

Speaker 1 (22:31):
M you know what, I didn't want to veer too
much off course because it's a lot of stuff I
want to try to fit in there. Right, But the
one thing I'm tired of seeing is nobody ever talks
about reparations.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
What do you mean, nobody? What do you mean? Nobody?

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Somethingian A lot of people talking about it, but it
ain't no action being done about.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Well it was, Well, so that's not true.

Speaker 4 (22:56):
So so we got to look at what action are
you talking about on the local level, On the state levels,
plenty of people talking about it. In California, they tried
to pass it. Unfortunately it didn't happen, but there's plenty
of action. So when I say when, so, I'm very
careful about words. When we say ain't nobody you know,
I say that's everybody, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
We don't want to say everybody.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
No.

Speaker 4 (23:13):
They talked about it heavy in the twenty twenty campaign
on the federal side with everybody. Corey Booker talked about it.
We push, they pushed, Bernie Sanders ask to at least
try to acknowledge it. Meany the can't now whether they
was cabin or not. They did talk about it, but
reparation should be a local or state thing.

Speaker 2 (23:30):
They passed forms of reparations now not.

Speaker 4 (23:33):
It's not so when you talk about reparationists, there's different
subgroups that have their own thing that they want to
see from reparations. You know, they say, well, that ain't
really reparations, or we don't really that ain't really it.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
So I want to be clear about that.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
That's it's a you know, I rock with the reparation
and so I know many of them don't consider many
of the things I'm about to tell you as reparations,
but many of those cities do. For example, San Francisco
passed they literally call reparation type bills. They can only manage.

(24:07):
And I believe it was samsus going to if I
get it wrong, my apologies. They can only be over
their jurisdiction. They can't pass it for all black people
all over the you know, all over the country, but
they can say, you know what, we're passing reparations for
black people on.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
And I believe it was on housing.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
It was on some type of you had some type
of action at housing if you have been discriminated against
with redlining. So it depends on how you look at reparations,
what you're looking from. From that, some people say, you know,
we suffered so many atrocities across the board that many
will say, let's focus on land, let's focus on housing,
let's focus on criminal justice, let's focus on you know,

(24:43):
all of those different things. And so there have been
many cities who have passed many to address reparations and
have literally used reparations in the actual policy. It just
didn't affect everybody in the country. Now, when you hear
reparations usually as a whole. You're talking about the folks
on social media who have do I would say, to

(25:04):
have the strongest voice in it, and they're literally talking
about a check for every descendant you know of black people.
But I want people to put out there that it's
not that nobody's not talking about it. People are moving
forward with the policy in the ways that they can
in their own local government. And that's why I keep
encouraging people try to change. You start at the local first,

(25:24):
when the local, when you get something on local, then
the state does it, and then at some point it
hopefully will bubble up to the federal level, which you
see people online talking about they want to go straight
to the federal and that's a very hard thing to
do when you should be chipping away. It's just like
if you're taking over hood. If you're taking you know,
I love using gang bang now, God can't help it.
If you're taking over a hood, you don't come in

(25:46):
and just all of a sudden, you're gonna literally and
I'll use the glove for examples, because in the nineties
they were the smallest that a minority, still the minority
in many places overall, you still will say the minority.
You don't see them coming in and just taking over
the whole city. You're gonna start with one neighborhood, then
you're gonna start with another one. You ain't trying to
make no whole bunch of noise. Then you're gonna start
with another another. Then you look up, Oh wow, damn,

(26:07):
we got a whole territory. You know. Now you don't
come in just same thing. You know, I could use
the dup game, but I leave that alone.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
But you know my point. You come over.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah byah block, So it's not that it's not happening.
It happening. Actually the way to do it is to
take it over block by block. But you still want
the reparation that's making the noise on the national level
because you want to make the noise. But when you
actually take over a hood and actually get something done,
it has to start block by block.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
And that's a real analogy.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
You know, I use it all the time, but this
is the only show where people actually understand what the
hell I'm talking about. So I get excited when I
get to use these analogy. But that's what happened in
the Midwest. You didn't see. It was literally when La
Big Turf started all these hoods. You didn't go to Oklahoma.
You had to do it block by block, one home
at a time, another home at the time, another home.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Of time, till eventually, okay, the whole city is ripping pirude,
the whole city is repping sixties, the whole city. You know.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
But that went by one at a time. It wasn't
just one big thing. Politics works the same way gang
banging as politics.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
It really really is. You are literally taking over block
by block until you get it done.

Speaker 4 (27:12):
And if you never get it done, if the entire
city is never pushing your set, what does it matter.
As long as your neighborhood is getting everything that it needs,
That's how politics is supposed to work. That's why I
tell people focus on the local and the state. As
long as my neighborhood is getting as long as we eating,
long as we protected people know, they can't come over
and just do any kind of drive buying, n be

(27:34):
know no consequence behind it. Long as we getting food
and people mouth, we running money, we getting money, we
doing whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Long as I know that once I pull.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Into my neighborhood, I'm good I'm good from eightieth Street
all the way to ninety second.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
That's really how politics works.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
We get into the conversation of saying, we won't all
that la to be like this.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
No, just focus on Inglewood. Just focus on Compton.

Speaker 4 (27:55):
Because really, as long as your people are doing good
outside your front door, you're effective.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
We have to get stopped talking about all the California.

Speaker 4 (28:03):
All the California ain't gonna be on the same page,
but you can get Compton on the same page. Compton
can eat, Inglewood can eat, Long Beach can eat.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Politics is about local and.

Speaker 4 (28:13):
By the way, Republicans push that they push when you
hear them talk about leave it up to the states,
that's what they're talking about. I'll translate what that means
is leave it up to the sets. Let the sets
run how they want to run. They set and whoever
in that state. You need to be pushing your governors
and your mayors and all that to see what you
want to see in front of you. Don't worry about
what they're doing in Georgia. Focus on California and focus

(28:35):
on your particular city because that's really all the matters.
If the mayor is giving a grant for his kids,
you know, taking care of him and taking care of
the softball, the uniforms, and taking care of the after school
programs and making sure the homies got jobs at the
Inglewood Stadium and making sure it is and make sure
that then you good as far as what's happening in

(28:57):
your community. And that's where we have to get to
the current.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Two because you have, you know, every since our first mentioned,
you've been pushing that start local, start local, you know,
and it means a lot more, especially to a person
like hey, who says all the time, I don't follow
politics because they don't do nothing for me.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:15):
Well it well, when we say don't know for me again,
if we're talking about the president in Congress, I can
I can see how you would feel that way, especially
if nobody's saying, well, this particular policy made it possible
for you to have X, Y Z one. They don't
educate and tell people what the hell they're doing. Democrats
are terrible with actually saying what they do right. They're

(29:39):
terrible with it. They get mad at Trump. Trump's the
best marketer ever, whether you like it or not. When
he sent out those checks which really came from Congress,
Trump made sure to put his name on those COVID checks.
He created the mist the idea that it came from
Trump when really it came from a Democrat Congress.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
But he's better at marketing.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
Governor Kemp did the same thing in Georgia when Corona
was happening.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
He sent out.

Speaker 4 (30:07):
Money cards called kick cards. He made sure that every
time you swipe whatever you needed, you remembered. Kemp did it.
So when Stacey Abrams ran as a governor, how you
can't compete with that. If I was just hungry last
week and I remember swiping that Kimp card, because remember
you're thinking of your self interest.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Hey, I don't know about all that. I want Stacey
to win. I want a black woman governor.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
But at the end of the day, who fed me
last week? So it's not that having done anything for you.
Democrats are terrible. Barack Obama bragged about that. We did
the same thing. We just didn't put our name on
it the way you should put your name on it.
Gang banging gonna put their name on it. It's a

(30:49):
reason why when you go in my hood, the minute
you go on seventy ninth, you know you in the
power hood. How you know you're in the power hood.

Speaker 1 (31:00):
Niggas. Let you know you enter in the zone.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
That's right.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
Politics is supposed to work the same way. You ain't
never gotta worry about if somebody go put in work,
you gonna know who put in the work.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
You gonna nobody that.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
Was such as us said that did, because it goes
a part of their cachet. It goes a part of
their political cachet, your politic, your cache. This particular set
ain't to be fucked with, this particular set.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Go let up.

Speaker 4 (31:25):
Matter of fact, rest in pieces of the Et who
I met in nineteen ninety three, buried in Inglewood Cemetery.
He will literally go and put in work and say
his name loud, and everybody will say, why you keep
saying your name?

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Because I want to know big Et did it.

Speaker 4 (31:39):
This is why the Trump marketing strategy is very much
in line with a case of mentality, because it is
it's aggressive, it's bold, it's not giving the damn, it's
letting you know what it is. Now people don't have
to like Trump. I'm just telling you what it is.
Where Democrats have taken a different approach, so now people
don't know what you've done. You not saying it with

(31:59):
your chest, You not making sure people know you did X,
y Z.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
You not. So now that now.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
These things are getting reversed back, like for example, of
prescription drug costs, that was one of the things that
Trump signed an executive order to roll back. So if
you are a diabetic, which affects black men in great numbers,
the black people in great numbers, now your prescription now
costs is gonna be double. So when somebody say the
politics ain't never did nothing for me, well, you gonna

(32:26):
find out what politics are doing when some of these things,
you know, get rolled back because Democrats didn't do a
good job and saying, hey, y'all that was me that
did x YZ. They're terrible at that. I've always said
that's why I'm independent. I left the Democrat part in
twenty ten. They're terrible with that. So it's not that
they haven't did anything, it's what have they done? And
then also, who are you supposed to give the credit to?

(32:49):
So if I just look at you and what you
guys are doing, and.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
You say.

Speaker 4 (32:57):
I give an example this real time, is gonna affect
all of us. Podcasting, Trump invested one of the policies
that he signed non executive order, but one of the
things he did was investing three hundred million in AI.
How's AI gonna affect us in the podcast space? Hows right?

(33:17):
So those are things policy affects you one way or
the other, whether it's your Little League team age that
you work with, Where does the funding When we talk
about DEI and people thinking that it's just white people
that benefit from that. So a lot of people that
on YouTube be talking and know what they talking about
and just spread miss and that's just a furtive action
and white women.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
No, it's not.

Speaker 4 (33:38):
When we talk about diversity in equity and initiative programs,
we're not just talking about people to get higher.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
We're not just talking about Africa, you know, affirmative action.

Speaker 4 (33:46):
We're talking about any program that says, you know what,
we want to do right by the black community. And
we want to make sure State Farm gives a certain
amount of advertising to the black effect, that AT and
T gives a certain amount of advertising to black effect,
that a particular group is saying, you know what, We're
not just gonna fund the white Little League teams.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
We want to make sure.

Speaker 4 (34:06):
That we look good as Walmart. If we're gonna give
a grant to eight, that's politics. These are programs and
policies that have been put in place because they benefited
from the federal government by doing those things.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Think about people that have contracts with Walmart. Walmart has
ended their diversity program. They have ended their diversity program.
So I know a couple of.

Speaker 4 (34:28):
People that got I think I remember the Brant's white
Judy she there, the Hairstut father. I remember when she
got in Walmart because I remember seeing it all over those.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Programs out there.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Now, if Walmart decided to keep doing it, that's fine,
but nothing is encouraging them to do it, nothing is
holding them accountable to do it, nothing is making them
do it. When the black effects started in twenty twenty
and those companies said, after George Forld, we're gonna give
a one hundred million DAR to support black business, they
never did give those companies the money, and guess what,
they never have to do it now. So these DEI

(35:06):
programs absolutely affect us in many many ways that we
just haven't connect the dots still because it hasn't been
enough information out there, you know, to get people to
get it.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
Yeah, like you said, you know, to read there to
reiterate what you said. The Democratic Party does a horrible
job of explaining stuff. It's like, you know, and I
don't know everything. But when I sit up in the
barbershop and I hear all the misinformation, I say, you
know what, man, we would be irresponsible if we didn't
talk about this. You feel what I'm saying. So when

(35:42):
you start talking about stuff like the travel band and
all this other stuff, some of this stuff it seems
like I've heard before.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Well it was, well, remember Trump was already in so
he's bringing back everything that he had when having Trump
put all this stuff in place, Biden came back, wiped
it out, Trump bringing it back.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's tit for tat. So that's why you're.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
Anybody from a Muslim or Arab country, we have a
hard time coming over her here.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
They have not from as of that because they're updating
this information in real time. So I don't want to
go too far into saying anything. They have not from
the last time I checked, have not updated.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
The travel band.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
Right now as it speaks, it's saying there's currently no
travel ban. As far as twenty twenty five before it
was a series of executive orders taken by Trump that
restricted entry back then. That order was in twenty seventeen,
so I don't know if he's put it, if he
plans on putting. That's one of the things that he's saying.
He basically said it gonna do a bunch of stuff.
We don't know yet because we're just a weekend, so

(36:44):
that has not been done as of yet. But he
did do that before, so people are anticipating that he'll
do it again.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
He done kicked up a whole bunch of dust in them.

Speaker 4 (36:52):
First shoot men, Well, he told y'all, he said, we're
gonna do it day one day. He said, they want
Democrats could have did this day one two, but they
always want to take it.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
Oh, let's take it to Congress. Let's wait, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (37:07):
That Trump is showing you how much power up a
president could actually have. Even if he doesn't get anything done,
his supporters will appreciate it because he tried.

Speaker 2 (37:17):
That's the difference. You sit back and say, I ain't
gonna do nothing.

Speaker 4 (37:20):
So you ain't even have you my man, Even if
you know you're gonna get your ass whooped and some
man challenge you, you ain't even gonna fight at all,
You just go sit it, you know, defend, you're gonna
sit on your ass. People still, I want to know
you put it in, you tried, you gave it the college.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Try. That goes a long way in leadership. We know this.
In the streets.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
You may not be the hardest on the set, you
may not be, but but what but here ride it though,
here rideer. He gonna do what he do. That's it
go a long way. They go a long way in
the penitentiary, you get your ass whooped. But did he
put his boots on though? Did he show up on
the yard? Did he do whatever? Again, that's the same
mindset that you're supposed to have in politics that just

(38:01):
Democrats just don't have.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
And Trump has that.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
So it's people feel like, I'm gonna put it because
at least I know he gonna try. Trump know a
lot of this stuff ain't gonna go through. He know
a lot of this ain't gonna be possible. But he's
putting on the whole show. He did that a party
is inaugurator. That's never happened like that. Right at the
end of his inauguration, a stack of stuff he signed
and day one after he signed it. I don't know if
y'all saw it. He signed it, then threw the pins
out to the crowd and all that like that. He

(38:27):
all about the showmanship of.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
It all, and that is.

Speaker 1 (38:32):
But but that that comes from then it entertainer. He's
a d He's the reason wertain the motherfucker. He's very polarizing.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yes, and you can't.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
And that's the way to do it. And Democrats just
refuse to do it, and and and until they get
on board, you're gonna keep getting your ass handed to you.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
That's just the bottom line. People want to be entertained.
You have a.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Little bit of entertainment, a little bit of you know,
education that that's how it works. Even in this digital
space that we're in, there has to be a little
bit of something.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
You know, to keep that gotta be elemented, you know.
If ain't nobody checking for it, we want to be here.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
That's right. And he's just better at it, guys.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
And when I say that, you you praising Trump. No,
I'm telling you what it is.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
He's better at it.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
He is at it. I'm gonna be real with your teens.
He gives you a lot to think about it.

Speaker 4 (39:23):
He gonna make you have a lot, I think back,
because it's gonna be two three headlines on a daily
base or something.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
Thinking a lot to think about. You can't help but
think about it. You know. One of the things that
I wanted to ask you, like, they were talking about
the people getting partying from January sixth, and I had
to remind him. I said, y'all, do know that some
of the people have been in jail for four years already.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
It don't matter. None of that matters.

Speaker 4 (39:43):
If you if the big homies say you getting out,
this is he doing gangster shit. It don't matter about it.
If it was in one day, five days, ten days,
he's saying, y'all roll for me. Y'all went down and
put in work, and I'm getting all the homies out period.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Don't look his rider.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
I wasn't mad at that. What I'm saying is this,
I think some people.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
Ain't nobody partnering us.

Speaker 4 (40:04):
So I feel a weed back had at it. I
was like, you know what, but they ain't gonna He
don't over throw other parts, so let's so let me
let me stop right there, because that's important.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
He don't owe you ship.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
I feel away because I'm just resentful because I want
the homies out, so I just feel it wise.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
But but the end the day, he don't owe you ship.

Speaker 4 (40:23):
Well, where are other parties that see Obama and all
of them told you still he's the president for everybody.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
I'm I'm everybody's president. That's not how it works, guys. No,
But well I don't.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
I don't want to get to that because it depends
on what you're looking for and what you consider doing.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Shit.

Speaker 4 (40:38):
The one is the president is not everybody's president. They
got to stop that mentality. The president is the president
for the people that voted him in. That's how it
really actually works. You are only supposed to do with
the people that voted you in. If I say I'm
everybody's woman, I'm only my man's woman. Why would I
be everybody's woman? That don't even make no sense. So

(40:58):
the previous presidents this, I'm everybody's president. I want to
please everybody. I want to get a little bit of
them over here. Why would you be trying to place
people that don't fuck with you? What Trump does and
what Republicans do very well, they're not concerned about you
that didn't vote for them. He's concerned about the seventy
million people that said they wanted these things done, so
he's doing it. So when people are in the common

(41:18):
sent with that's what they wanted, so that's what they get, right,
that's the whole point. They wanted it, and he's doing it.
And he don't give a damn how you feel about it.
So when we say pardons, when you say, well, we're
the other part, that's the mindset of thinking. He's supposed
to keep it fair. This shit ain't about keeping shit fair.
This is gangster shit all the way. I don't like
it because I just feel a way about it. But
he is absolutely supposed to pardon his homies if that's

(41:41):
what he wanted to do. But never though, except when
it comes to their family, like well Biden did with
his family. He made sure he took care of his family.
But a Democrat never they want to keep it fair.
Let me do one over here, the one over there,
and one over here and one over that trumps like, nah,
fuck all that. I'm a rolling sixty. I'm partnering all
the sixties and that's that. And whoever else, go get
your team in in line and let them win and

(42:01):
let them do it.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Well he pardon here he yo. You saw Herryo down
at the party eight here.

Speaker 4 (42:06):
Go what strategic too? That was strategic too. And Democrats.
So again, when you're trying to appeal to a base
black men, which did rise for Trump, but still the
majority of black men voters do vote Democrat, all you're
trying to do is pill off one or two percent.
When people kept saying, of course all black men didn't

(42:26):
vote Black people Trump, just like all black men didn't
vote for Biden or Harris. This game is all about
peeling off one or two percent. When I flipped Michigan,
I was the only black person on the ground for
Bernie Sad in twenty sixteen, we won by one and
a half percent. She had Detroit on lock, all the
black people Detroit on lock. I went to Flint, where

(42:48):
wasn't nobody going. The white boys, went to the union,
got them organized, get did everything. We did everything around,
just like if you're trying to take over a hood.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
We did everything outside.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Of that territory to get them on board to increase
by that one to two percent. Trump knew that if
he could appeal to one percent two percent of not
just black men, but those who have identified with some
level of criminal justice, whether that's a woman that was

(43:20):
down with her man for ten years in the pen,
whether that was somebody.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
That did time, whatever, he was very smart and strategic.
Let me go on and put harry O out. Let
me go on and put you wanna.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
One of the things he did that I think was
way more effective putting trick Trick in Detroit now on
shave room. Everybody said, who is trick Trick? I all
know trick Trick? Well, plenty people know who trick Trick
is in Detroit. Trick Trick is here, and you know
what happened with that?

Speaker 2 (43:50):
People?

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Right there were a certain sector of people that were
disappointed because they were mad at Trump and they didn't
know what to do. It's like, damn, they got the
homie bucket. I just I won't vote at all. It
ain't even that they went to go vote for Trump,
but that that put enough salt in the game to
make you quit. Remember me said Minuego, He make you think,
He make you question. See that's the whole thing with

(44:13):
the amaterick trick on board ice wear, vezo on board
shave room, while who icewar bevezo uh icewear veszol fed
a lot, feed a lot of a lot of people
in Detroit when you see him embracing them in Detroit
in a Detroit remembered Michigan is a swing state. It's
a must have to win. So him going to Detroit

(44:34):
and peeling off one or two percent and then the
Arab community was pissed at the Democrats because of Palestine.
That's how they won Michigan. People said, why he used
ambarros am borrows. Ain't nobody? Who is she from Philly?
From a swing state that you got to have. He
was very statiach and picking three and four people. That's

(44:58):
enough that may not mess said, I mean people to
vote for him, but enough to make people say shit.
I don't know what to think. Kwame Kirkpatrick, former mayor
of Detroit. I interviewed Kwame. I asked Kwan, why why
the Democrats ain't calling you? I don't know, man, Kwa,
not you could went to jail or not by giving

(45:19):
him a pardon?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (45:22):
People coming he did some funks up shit. To be honest,
if he did it, he said he didn't. But let's
just say he did That man has taken care of
a lot of people in Detroit. His mama is a
former state rep. That man comes from several generations of politicians,
meaning he knows where the votes are. If I use
a dope analogy, you know where the cracked beans are.

(45:44):
If you come to a new city, you putting in work.
I just gotta give it to a way. You know,
if you put the I'm gonna go to the crack. Hey,
y'all bring me back touch. That's how politics works. When
I go to a city and I'm trying to find
where the votes are. What I mean that is, I
can I in Orlando, I can tell you this nursing

(46:05):
home has eighty seven votes. It might be two and
lived there, but I can tell you eighty seven of them.
I know gonna go to the post. You have to
know where your votes are. So why would you ignore
Kwame Kirkpatrick, who was the first hip hop mayor, as
they say, went to jail or not. Democrats could have
pardoned him and brought him in the fold, but they didn't.
So Trump was very smart. He didn't need a whole bunch,

(46:26):
usually a couple Harry O trick trick.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
Kwame Kirkpatrick.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Look at what Boosy said today, Trump, can I get
a pardon?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Everybody got mad? But why he said?

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Man? I asked Biden. Biden didn't give it to me.
So I'm gonna ask Trump. Let's see what Trump do
with that. He's smart enough to know. Let me gone
and do cause that's gonna, you know, like he did
with the TikTok penitentionition.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
He's paying attention to what's going on.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
And while Democrats got their nose up in there Boosie,
ain't nobody who is Boosy?

Speaker 2 (47:00):
Ain't nobody?

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Okay, keep on thinking that, Keep on thinking that people
ain't looking at that and identifying with that in some
way or the other. You know where I tell you
the biggest failure with Democrats now with Governor Newsom has
done by reducing the gang enhancement in California by them
not talking about that. That's why we say, ain't nothing

(47:22):
done on nobody? No, they just don't talk about it.
Governor Wes Moore has granted clemency for over two hundred
thousand people in Maryland with marijuana convictions.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
Democrats never talked about it. Why would you never talk
about it?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
You're gonna let Trump come out and talk about two
three people when y'all got two hundred thousand on the
books with a black man governor and didn't put him out.
I interviewed Wes Governor Moore. I asked him, why did
not happen you after? Why did I utilizing that? Why
y'all not talking about Governor news It's homies that on
the yard for the first time in thirty forty years

(47:55):
going home as old men.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
They're not a danger to society because of the rollbacks.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
And I want to be clear with people who listen,
because you know they always say, I'm not supposed to
be performing gaming.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
No, I'm just telling you what it is. It's never
been about not doing the crime. For the time.

Speaker 4 (48:09):
The gang enhancement was about giving you more time over
sentencing you.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
If you did X y Z.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
You did X y Z, you shouldn't get an enhancement
because you live in a certain neighborhood because as we
know in California, you can literally just live in the
neighborhood and still be affiliated.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Yeah for real, or you to just the cur with
a mother.

Speaker 2 (48:27):
Right.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
So Governor Newsom has rolled back back, and I know
several people who have benefited from that, but they don't
talk about that. They let they run with the narrative
on Governor news some crime out of control, Haltington is
out of control.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Okay, all those things might be true, But.

Speaker 4 (48:44):
You should have Governor Newsom talking to people about what
he's done in criminal justice reform.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
But you do well, you know, and I don't even
I ain't gonna go into that a little bit. I
think one of the problems with Newsome out here is
that he spends so much time talking about guns because
he think they're what people want to hear about, right,
But I ain't.

Speaker 4 (49:03):
You can talking about California because that's already unlock as
far as Democrats concerned.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
I'm talking about campaigning.

Speaker 4 (49:09):
When you put someone you said, he Brown Harry O out,
that's what I'm talking about you. I'm not talking about
it in California because that's that's already lot for the
What I'm saying is when they were doing national campaigns
and brought out, you know, these different spokespeople, if you will.
There are spokespeople like that on the Democrat side that

(49:32):
could have came out the nose up to that. They
turn their nose up to that urban you. I've been
talking about it for years. You need to go get
the homies, get the homies involved. They turned their nose
up at those types. So it's not that they're doing it.
They don't feel as worth it to bring them out.
And Trump saw that open opportunity. He literally called it

(49:55):
the lost man. He saw that open opportunity. If all
was ever run for always ain't nothing but the homy
standing behind me. They so busy trying to focus on
bringing in white women, bringing in this type, that type,
the elite, all of that that you forgot. There's a
sector of people that never vote at all that went
to vote for the very first time and that was
enough to change by one or two percent.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
That's real stuff. Now. One of the topics I wanted
to text you in time when fast no new this
is gonna happen or everywhere?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Hey right that it is good because Tesla knows how
to educate, you know, norm on motherfuckers. You know what
I'm saying as far as neighborhood and motherfuckers like myself
who are not too inclined with politics, but when you
put it on street terms, you give a lot of
motherfuckers info that probably they didn't understand before about trying

(50:49):
to deal with politics and the understanding of Trump. And
you know, because you know, you just hear a lot
of motherface anytime you hear a nigga a fuck Trump
or or man I owe you whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
But they don't understand that.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Like I tell niggas all the time, Trump a businessman,
He'm a politician. So that's why you get a lot
of shit done and shit because you know, when you're
a smooth business motherfucker, you look for results and shit.

Speaker 2 (51:14):
You feel me, I appreciate you saying that. He that
means a lot.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
You know this why gats you on it because he
will he represents dude, right, you know the way he
talking everything is start crossing hisself.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
Not to say that I'm not educated about certain shit,
but it's just that certain shit, you know. You know,
maybe homies in on the prison yards, you know, they
educate themselves to a lot of you know, certain politics
because being locked up in laws and different whatever.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
But just for the average nigga.

Speaker 3 (51:48):
You know what I'm saying, you you really are inclined
to learn a lot about what's going on, especially with
the government and elections and and different parties and ship.

Speaker 1 (52:01):
So you you need.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
To hear somebody tell you and and and generally and
just in regular ship. You give me then you see
it all. Now, don't give me all motherfucking terms in
mother fucking phrases. Just break it down to me, simple terms.
To a nigga, I can understand. One plus one equals
to get to me simple. You feel me right?

Speaker 1 (52:22):
So that more better?

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Yeah, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
And then also, which whych Charlamagne came me the hood
whisper I grew up?

Speaker 2 (52:32):
The reason why I can explain.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
That's why this is my favorite podcast to do because
it's literally gangst the chronicles.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
So when I when I'm doing when I'm.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
Doing a lot of my lives, and I use a
lot of gang banging analogies. Everybody sometimes don't understand, but
when I'm with y'all, like you literally because gang bang
is politics.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
It is absolute politics.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
It is absolutely from the OG to the to the
YG to the BG to the everything is literally structured.
This would be the govern the OG would be the governor,
the the YG would be your mayor. The baby gangster
would be your city council. Literally, it is literally structured.

Speaker 2 (53:11):
Exact same way.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
So those are my favorite conversations have because once I
started explaining that, like, no, it's the same way. Let's
talk about how you organize a hood. That's how you
organize politics. Let's talk about how how you move work
in the city. That's how you do politics. Policy is work,
it's the work you're moving to work. All of those
things are the exact same thing. And sometimes, well, I
ain't gonna say something, I'm gonna pop my collar. A

(53:34):
lot of people in my business don't know that life.
I grew up in this, so I'm not speaking from
something I read. You'll hear people say, oh, it's kind
of like Bloods and Chris, but they don't know nothing
about the they don't know none about the constitutions, the policies,
the rules, this and that, because you didn't grow up
with this. I grew up in a polo hood. Literally
everything I've been a part of has been affiliated with gangs.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Literally. You know.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
So because I understand that, because I've been a sympathizer, affiliate,
or whatever word you want to call it my whole life,
I get it. Also, if you ever was down with
anybody in the prison systm, you just brought a prisonism
the car.

Speaker 2 (54:08):
How you organize the car is politics. It's the same thing.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
So you can have one car California, one Texas over here.
But then when it's time for a riot, black people
gonna work across the aisle, just like we're gonna all
come together. We're gonna push this line saying when you
keep talking about the Mexican armies, the Mexican armies again,
no disrespect, I'm just telling what it is. This is
where a lot of the divide came in is still

(54:33):
on the politician.

Speaker 2 (54:34):
I already know where you go go. I'm going because
it's important. We talked about real yeah, like in California.

Speaker 4 (54:42):
Okay, yeah, I don't know what again, this is where
to depends on who you talking to. In California, ain't
no brown and black you know coalition, but it might
be a brown and black I tell New York that
all the time. You gotta understand the politics of the
reach New York is on that black and brown coalition.
So when so when when represent the bowman former represented

(55:02):
bowmen the black man go to the breakfast club talking
to nine million people about black and brown people in
the West of the Salda Mina.

Speaker 2 (55:09):
They looking, what.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
Black and brown are you talking about? Because this enemy
territory out here. But you also might have like you
saying the Mexican homies. There might be some black people
that rock with the Mexicans, but overall, the culture of
it overall, and it ain't no black and brown coalition.
And in the penitentiary it's the same way. The penitentiary
is the most segregated place in America.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It ain't no coal it.

Speaker 4 (55:30):
And somebody told me one day ate in a comment,
oh no, they get no, they get along to survive.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
We might have changed money and commerce to survive.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
But if it's the riot, no homy, you riding with
the blacks and the meskins riding with the meskus and
the whites are rocking on the wi.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
And that's how people need to under That's how people
got their feelings hurt.

Speaker 4 (55:51):
When they come down to politics. People are gonna ride
with their own kind for the majority new and black
people the on the ones and not saying all we
better start getting some understanding. But that's why black women
sitting over crying all over the internet. I can't believe
that as fat as let us down. The white women,
they didn't vote their interests. Their interest is to make

(56:13):
sure that their white man is in position, because if
their white man is in position, they're in position, their
son is in position, their children in position. So you
talking to white women about abortion when I got a
way out abortion versus white supremacy.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Of white men being back in charge. Guess what the
white women gonna vote with they men. That's how it works.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
See on our end, black men don't have authority over
white men. White men got authority by the numbers, by
the data, over everybody from who had who has had
more action in this city, I mean in this country, rights, money,
home owner ship, all of that. So the women go

(56:59):
on line the white woman, when then white women did.
I knew that was a scam when they did that.
White women for Kamala Harrison, A girl, knock it off.
When you go in that booth behind that you voted
in lining up with your husband, because that wouldn't make sense.

Speaker 1 (57:16):
You don't kill the swift pod about this shits. Tell
the swift pard about that shit quick.

Speaker 4 (57:21):
Well she well, no, she voted, she said she supported hairs,
but it didn't matter when they went behind.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
I'm telling me when they go behind them.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Damn curtains. You say one thing on t yeah, but
when you go behind the curtain, we going buy the numbers.
The white women voted with their white husbands for white supremacy.
And I ain't mad at it, because if I wanted
to make sure I was surviving, that's what I would
do too. What I want black people to do is

(57:47):
focus on what we need to do to survive and
how do we make sure we operate in our politics,
and that is on the local and the state level.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
It stuff depending on other people. I gotta get in
this tears, these transgender policies. Trump saying, now a man
is a man, the won't is a woman, and all
those pronouns heard him. I'm an eat, I'm a thing
that's over with.

Speaker 4 (58:09):
Well, it's over with as far as federal government is concerned.
So I want to bring some clarity to that. That's
only on federal documents, federal things. That's not across the board. Again,
this is why state and local politics matter. So that
may not affect the private sectors, you know, where people
send emails out with she he and all that tolerant

(58:32):
work environments. Now again, they may follow the lead of
the federal government.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
But this is only on.

Speaker 4 (58:39):
The federal a passport of of you know those things
they saying, a government issued ID. I'm gonna see how
that's going to play out in the states, because California
decides how they want to move, Texas decides how they
want to Each state has their own constitution. That's why
I keep telling people the things that matter to you.
You should be looking at your governor on that because

(59:01):
if your state is still saying no, it ain't over with,
we gonna still move X y Z, then it don't
matter what Trump is talking about.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Except and some SPI just thought, sometimes.

Speaker 4 (59:13):
Federal government does trump everything literally speaking, and sometimes it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Just depends.

Speaker 1 (59:19):
So I was gonna say something like them, like he
said sports, No more men competing in women's sports. Like
you see a dude out there boxing here when it
turned itself, he became a woman now and he's competing
in professional boxing boxing women boxing women who are physically
women and dominating.

Speaker 4 (59:37):
You right, Well, that no, because again, if NCA say
I want to do a boxing event and I want
and I want to allow transgenderc he can do that.
You can't control like what people are doing on the
private end. What they're talking about is federal associated things,
things that get federal money, things that get federal support,
things that get you know, the things that they have

(59:59):
control over. They're no longer going to support those things.
As far as the sports. But if I want to
start my own private Olympic, I want to create the
teessim figure Olympics, and I want and I say, I'm
gonna be in because guarantee somebody gonna do it because
now it's an opportunity to do it and make money
with it just from you know, now, Okay, I want
to create this, and I'm going to allow X y Z,

(01:00:20):
then yes, if there's a school district that says no,
we're not gonna go with that, we are still gonna allow.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Uh uh.

Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
Your governor, Governor Newsom pass gender bathrooms K through twelve.
You know, gender neutral bathrooms. That happened at the state level.
So if you want to change that, if you got
issue with that, you better be talking to Governor Newsom.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
He run California, he the og he's he run that
he run that said, not Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
There's some things again, depending on what it is, that
will affect everybody across the board. But most things are
controlled by your governor. Your governors have the most power
as far as your ever day life then the president
of the United States. And I encourage people to go
back and watch the debate between Newsom and the scientists

(01:01:07):
so you can really see how much power government. Governors
have them and look at their debates compared to a
presidential debate, and you're gonna see the difference. That's where
you're gonna see those tangible things like what they actually.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Did and done.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
And all people in Congress they just write laws and
issue out money. They don't a governor is the one
saying I'm gonna put this on this block, deb on
that block, this, this that. That's where you get into
the action where you actually know, you know what government
does for you or doesn't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Okay, So when one last thing they cut on critical
race theory in the schools all across the board, is
that also state thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
It can be a stay thing. It also can be
a private school, charter schools. Charter schools do what they want.

Speaker 2 (01:01:52):
To do, and it's not about cutting it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:55):
It's saying they're gonna cut the funding if you want
federal funding, which most of them needed.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Yeah, I at least read that about them when that
in the school.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, but you can very well do your own.

Speaker 4 (01:02:09):
Like one of one of my trainees that I trained,
and she trained some of my classes for me, she
started a black history program intas Oklahoma. When they cut
it out, they cut it out because Oklahoma wanted to
cut it out. That's been cut out for the last
three four years. So she went and started a private
organization that teaches, you know, black history. I want to

(01:02:30):
be clear about that. Your school board again, that's your
state and then your local school board.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
But what they're saying is we ain't gonna give you
no money.

Speaker 4 (01:02:39):
So essentially you might as well say they gonna cut
because they can't afford to lose the money. So again,
that's one of the things you kind of want to
look at and see like how that's gonna land. But
that is one of the things that I think will
affect everybody across the board because every school is don't
have money, so how can you afford to not you know,
to lose that federal funding. But your charter schools, you know,
private schools things like that, they can do what they want,

(01:03:01):
which is, by the way, why a lot of Black
conservatives push charter schools. Independent schools can and that's a
big argument too in politics, big argument between black people.
Black people say, let's do our own, you know, our
own schools, our own teach our children how we want to.
And then other black people are saying, well, when you

(01:03:24):
do that, you take away from the fund. You know,
you take away from basically investing in public schools. Not
everybody Friday child to the other side of town to
a public school.

Speaker 2 (01:03:33):
They need a bus to pick them up.

Speaker 4 (01:03:34):
So what happens to the kid that can't go to
the private school or pay the tuition or have access.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
But then black people are like, but we gotta do something.

Speaker 4 (01:03:41):
We gotta get somebody an option because we can't just
keep depending on this. There's an episode that I have
if you guys want to look into that, two black
men arguing that on ts on ten on Revolt on
one of our most popular ones where we're debating public
school versus private school for black people to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
The big deal. School choice is a big deal the black.

Speaker 4 (01:04:02):
Community, way bigger than what I thought, Like people really
get into that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Yeah, I went to private school. Yep, it was it was.

Speaker 3 (01:04:15):
I don't know if it was necessary, But like you said,
it was a thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:20):
You get me, for.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
A black family to say they were sending their kid
to a private school. You get me, Like I went
because my cousin went, You get me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
So it was like and should I have been there? Was?

Speaker 3 (01:04:42):
It probably hard on my mom because she was a
single mom trying to send you know, two of her
kids to a private school. Not because you know, like
I say in one of my songs, that was trying
to fool motherfuckers.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
Because I still was a nigga. You get me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
You would think the assumption of when you going to
private school that your whole life is different. You know
what I'm saying, you're growing up in that good part
of town, or you know, you beating whatever. But nigga,
I was living in a neighborhood that was all to me,
trying to compete with those good motherfucking families. You know,

(01:05:23):
you know, like my cousin was the only kid. You
get me, what's in three or four of her in
the house like us? You get but it was it was,
It was it was a you know, it was something
for moms like to send her kids to private school.
But shit still bad as fuck at school. You get

(01:05:47):
It wasn't eating. It was just a sense of saying, oh, yeah,
I could send them to private school. But yeah, that's
a big thing. You know what I'm saying, school over
private school.

Speaker 2 (01:06:00):
Black people.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
Really And by the way, just so people know, Republicans
support school choice, meaning they say you should be able
to have a voucher to send your kid wherever you
want them to go. If you want them to go
to the local public school or to a charter school,
they'll they believe in getting a voucher to be able
to help you to go. But the argument is, again
on the other side, is when I send my daughter

(01:06:22):
to a charter school, I was able to pick her up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
I had to pick her up.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
There were no buses, the buzzes don't take you to
charter school, public school. It's on the other side of town.
So what about the mother. They can't do that, or
the father they can't do that because they're working now
their child is stuck in the public school that's underfunded
and they're not getting the resource because their argument is
all the resources go to the funding go to help them,
while don't spend all your time getting this right. And

(01:06:47):
my argument always was I'm gonna help you get this right,
but I still can't have my daughter be no sacrificial
lamb because the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:53):
Particular school that was in the area was failing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:57):
I can't send my daughter to a failing school just
because I'm trying to be about the cause.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
I'm still gonna help.

Speaker 4 (01:07:02):
Y'all fight now, but my responsibility to get Jada, you know,
make sure Jada get to the next step you know
of where you know one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (01:07:12):
So tis when they talk about cut funding for you know,
like ending diversity and inclusion policies. That's the only on
the federal level.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Yes, okay, that does not mean that the state won't follow.

Speaker 4 (01:07:27):
So again, if the big homie is doing something loose
to say that another said, I ain't gonna do it.
We've seen that in game. Hey, theyll they move like this, Well,
we gonna move like this. Are this this generation? You
see that generator? This generation did it this way, Well,
this generation gonna do no. A really good example is
every generation gets harder and harder with their gang banging.
In the eighties, it was just all about fighting. Then

(01:07:48):
it went to shooting, then it went to this, and
then went to that. So that's the same thing that
I want you to understand about federal If they doing
one thing on the federal then a governor, like a
governor the Santas in Florida gonna follow suit. A governor
like governor Texas, they're gonna follow soup. That's what people saying.
They can get worse and worse and worse and worse
depending on where you live, but depending on what set

(01:08:11):
you riding, depending on you know, what's what. So also
it's on the federal level, but it doesn't mean that
states are not gonna follow because that they said, oh,
if you work on a federal level, let's do it here.
It's almost like a past to be able to say
they're doing over here, so we might as well do
it over here, which they wanted it tell you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:26):
One of the things about it saw that I thought
was really interesting is that, you know, my oldest son
is a firefighter. One of the things I saw on
x formerly Twitter whatever it's called now a whole bunch
of white cats on there telling about, oh, the reason
why the fire is going down to la is because
white firefighters couldn't get the job because they was only

(01:08:49):
giving the black people. And I said, that's the biggest Like,
where did y'all get that information from?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Well, I mean that's just taugh. I mean that.

Speaker 4 (01:08:57):
Again, we're in an era where anybody saying anything hang
on the internet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
And this is why this stuff is important. That's just talk.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
I want to give another point that's important. Back to
when I just did the analogy with the state and
local this is very important. Georgia can say Georgia is
a conservative state as a whole, but Atlanta is a
black city. And this is where you really get a
chance to see the difference between who running, what's said,
and who doing what. Georgia conservative, he can follow everything

(01:09:25):
Trump is doing, but Atlanta has a black mayor. Atlanta
has a majority of black hawk a council. Atlanta in
ninety South Fullton is ninety seven percent black. So they
govern themselves. They which is why relocated, They govern themselves.
They pay themselves. They can set up their own minimum wage.
Let's say the minimum wage is the minimum wage federal

(01:09:46):
level seven twenty five city of Atlanta, and say the
minimum wage for the city of Atlanta, not all the
private but the actual city is fifteen dollars an hour.
You can live within your own world depending on what
city you living in, which is why you can tell
a eight.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
To I'm for mayor of Comton.

Speaker 4 (01:10:01):
You can create you know, I'm gonna say that every time.
You could say that you can create your own America
in your city. Now, Making may be screwed, Savannah may
be screwed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:13):
You know, you can't save.

Speaker 4 (01:10:14):
Everybody, but in your city you can set that up
how you want to be. And now I'm not telling
everybody you need to move to Atlanta, you know, I'm
just saying I want to give people an example that
a conservative state can still move in a certain way
in that city. One of the cities who just as FYI,
a state that has liberal policies that actually has some

(01:10:35):
really good positive outcomes is Colorado. California is very liberal,
but they get California's big. So you got housing, you
got crime, you got so they can say, oh, but
y'all housing, you know, homelessness, so you're crime in at Colorado.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Go look at Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:10:50):
That's a state that has the one of the highest
the best health care programs. Most of they have a
state healthcare people do really well. The economy, the weed,
you know, the drugs they have they've ended qualified immunity,
one of the few states that actually say no, if
a if a police officer kill somebody, we can sue

(01:11:10):
you too. And those are things again that the Democrats
don't talk about that they should be talking about. So
just because something works one place well, doesn't mean it
doesn't work another place well or good and those type
of things. So that's why state politics is very, very important.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Very important. So tis you made that move.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
I made that move.

Speaker 4 (01:11:30):
I'm back and forth now, but until my daughter and
she goes to college.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
She got accepted prepare of you. So I'm very excited
about that, very excited about that. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
So when she goes full time, I'll be there five
completely full time. But now I'm just there between three
and five days. Well sometimes i'm a week at a time.
So I'm back and forth, but I'm I'm involved. You know,
I'm getting in my brother killer Mike.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
You're gonna be doing some dangerous stuff. You're gonna get
dangerous in the ball in there.

Speaker 4 (01:11:58):
We're trying to get you know, I've been talk can
you admitted about it like it's about it's about linking
up where you know you can walk in the door
and you know, like entertainers. I don't know about it
everywhere else, but in the city of Atlanta, you got action.
You know, the mayor rock with they got a whole
department eight that just focused on just the rappers and entertainment.

Speaker 2 (01:12:18):
And in the Mayor's office just partnership.

Speaker 4 (01:12:21):
Yeah, just partnerships with just making sure Atlanta understands that
those things go hand in hand, from the strip clubs,
to the rappers, to the singers, to the to the
to the business people. It's it's it's the Black MECU
for real, like for a real reason, not just number one.
Is number one of the best places to live as
far as black people is concerned. This is by data

(01:12:43):
home ownership. Forty nine percent of people in Atlanta are
Black people are homeowners. Think about that, almost fifty percent.
This is a real data they came out in twenty
twenty five. The median income is higher than anywhere in
the country. Second place is Maryland. They pay very well
because government jobs, you know in Maryland. So we talked
about an'll wanner ship forty nine. Can you imagine if

(01:13:04):
we went in a room, Just think about if one
hundred people was in a room fifty of them own
a home. How powerful that is owning a home, highest
and entrepreneur for entrepreneurship.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Now, they don't mean every business does well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
It don't mean every business is a millionaire, but the
highest and black entrepreneurship, I know.

Speaker 1 (01:13:25):
That was one of the biggest things I noticed when
I went down there. Remember I told you I wanted
to move down there too.

Speaker 4 (01:13:31):
Well, now I was telling you me and you were
talking about we talking about Houston r And I gave
you the pros and cons.

Speaker 1 (01:13:35):
Of boat yep. And I'm gonna tell you why because
I thought, like my driver when I went back to
the airport, you know, I got a who were black, right,
a black man, and he was telling me how he
owned the whole fleet of those. You know. He was like, well,
I got ten of these. You know what I'm saying,
I'm doing this today. And I was like, that is dope.
How long you been doing that? You know? Me and
him was building, you know, from the restaurants I went

(01:13:56):
to actually see black women in the kitchen. Make if
I sold food restaurant is no nothing, it's nobody, cause
I want to see somebody look like my mama.

Speaker 4 (01:14:05):
Back there, right, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Or if I'm going to a barbecue spot, I want
to see an old black man on the grill. That's
just how.

Speaker 4 (01:14:16):
It don't matter if you're going to a barbecue spot,
soul food, a Papa Dos or chain or whatever, You're
gonna see black people everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:14:23):
But it ain't even just about seeing black people everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:14:26):
I had this conversation with somebody today, one of the
homies from LA and he was like, man, I went
in Laud, I saw black people. I said, it's not
even just bas seeing black people everywhere. You're going to
see a divert of black people doing well exactly. Gonna
see the hood, You're gonna see the middle of the hood,
you gonna see some of the Atlanta is the only place.
When I was up there a couple of months ago,
it's the only place in the country. I am positive

(01:14:48):
that I can go to an event. I went to
Tip and Kill the Mike. They got a new restaurant
called Bankhead Seafood. The previous mayor was there, the current
mayor was there. Right after that, we went right around
the corner to the trip House. Big U was in
town and it was about one hundred and sixties It's
the only place in the country that I could go
from current and present mayor to with the with the

(01:15:13):
Rolling Sixties, literally in the same night and be able
to take pictures with them all and say, yeah, I
was with the mayor and I was with the city,
you know, like and.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Literally like that's Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
That's Atlanta where all of that is recognized, all of
that is embraced.

Speaker 2 (01:15:27):
All of that had, you know, all of that which
big U was there with his birthday, I think it
was his birthday.

Speaker 4 (01:15:33):
Son was playing, you know, son's in the NFL, so
a son was playing at that time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
But that's the only.

Speaker 4 (01:15:37):
Place where I go from one rappers restaurant to the
the next rap you know. And and the government is
involved in that making sure that they got the permits
that they needed, making sure that those places open.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
There's a lot of places, but Atlanta's different and very special.

Speaker 4 (01:15:54):
And it's not just clout, you know, it's not people
are not just saying and just say it.

Speaker 2 (01:15:59):
It's true.

Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
I don't know if you got this series of Friday
Night Fight with Kevin Hart fiction series.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
But go watch this damn good.

Speaker 4 (01:16:08):
David Bannon was in it on Peacock and they're talking
about Atlanta in the seventies and like what made Atlanta
the black mecher that it is today. And even though
it's fiction, is still a very good series. Atlanta's a
very special place. So I just thought, for me still,
and you know, we had many conversations about this. I
advocate for us. I need to be in a city
that I can be back. I was very involved in Orlando,

(01:16:29):
but Atlanta doesn't have a lot of play. You know,
I dealt with the black community. But I really want
to be as I retire and think about the next
things I want to do in my life, I need
to be where I don't have to pick and choose
to try to take care of everybody. I'm you know,
where I know that ninety seven percent is me and
I can say black this Black test, and know that
everybody voting and everybody, you know, we all the same.

(01:16:50):
We're gonna have our fights, We're gonna have our arguments.
Everybody ain't gonna agree all black people, ain't gonna agree
that the strip club should have been opened later and
not or whatever. But the bottom line is I want
to be where we are embraced on every single level,
from entertainment, to the hood, to the the attorneys, to
the doctors, every single level. I hung out at Tyese's house.
You know, he lives in Atlanta, and I asked him,

(01:17:12):
why did you leave La? And he said because of
this this right here, to be able to sit around
black people in his home and talk about changing progress.
He said, it's nothing in LA for me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
You know, I'm gonna be real with you. It's not
a black city.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
I know.

Speaker 4 (01:17:29):
You ain't gottaet real with the numbers say it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
It's not a black city. It's good like and it's like,
I'm gonna be real with you. I love my time,
my hear and everything else. But I think it's come
this short. It's time to make a move, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:17:42):
Yeah, So before we go, you love together. I want
to be clear about that. I love LA because I
love the love.

Speaker 4 (01:17:48):
Look, you stop talking dollar well when you talking me?
Do you want to have Do you want a thirty
five hundred square foot house for two fifty three hundred
thousand or do you want you know, fifteen hundred square
foot from one point two million in La r New York.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
It's just a matter where you you want to stretch
your money. Or not. Do you want to build with
people that want to build or not? Do you want
to You know, I've.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
Always told you people like Houston is a cousin to Atlanta,
so they're very similar in a lot of ways, but
it's still Atlanta's very different and special as far as
government is concerned. Literally, almost ninety percent of the stat
the whole Mayor's office, city Hall is black. Am I
talking at just one or two, I'm talking about literally everybody?

(01:18:33):
And that don't mean all black people are for us, but.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
It's still a very unique experience, very neat.

Speaker 1 (01:18:38):
But sure. So I want to talk about your show
real quick, tears on Team and Revoke.

Speaker 4 (01:18:43):
Yes, well, I'm the chief political correspondent again, so I'm
covering all of the daily stuff going on with politics.
I'm also a senior producer as well, so I'm very
excited about that. That was a promotion to be able
to say, Okay, don't just be in front of the camera,
but be behind the camera. And I love that more
than anything because that, to me is longevity. I don't

(01:19:04):
always want to be front facing. So I'm excited about that.
And then you know Tez on ten we did a
series with that. So we're gonna do, you know, incorporate
that we did a versus where I bring on people
to debate. But the main thing is is that people
just can tap in. Revolt is still majority black owned.
It is still an organization I'm very proud of of.

(01:19:26):
Our studio is so beautiful, you know, from the green
room to a real investment in US. It's a place
where I know I can work and really be center
focused on the issues of black people.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
So between where's the base that it's a base in Lanta, Atlanta?

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
That's dupe right there. I know they got.

Speaker 4 (01:19:45):
For a long time and then they start out in
their late but it makes sense to be in Atlanta.

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Oh so they moved it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Yep, they moved it. So it's in Atlanta. Headquarters in Atlanta.

Speaker 4 (01:19:55):
Beautiful studios still Like even if you're in town, you
say you want to use the studio, we want to
record something, it definitely ain't gonna know like that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
It's top of my green rooms. Nice pretty your girl's
picture on the wall. And so I'm just I am
at a very happy place. You know. I've been going
through it this year.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
I said, I've been This work is hard, like really Damn,
I'm trying to do something, Mals. I want to do this,
but I couldn't be happier. I'm not the richest. I'm
some years I'm I'm barely middle class, and there's years
where I've been below property straight up.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
You know. I'm not gonna put no cap on that.

Speaker 4 (01:20:27):
But I could not be happier to be with Revolt
Black Owned, to be with Black Effect.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
My voice, my podcast is Black Effects, Straight Shot, No Chaser.

Speaker 4 (01:20:35):
My visuals were Revolt, and I wouldn't want it any
other way but to serve us in my full capacity.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
So that's do. But I know the homies over there,
the Honey DJ screen they got they show over there too,
big facts and he was telling me, he was like, yeah,
I like Rock and Revolt.

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
Yeah it feels good to me. You know I don't.
I don't celebrate my birthdays.

Speaker 4 (01:20:58):
I like celebrating the dash am I doing between the
time I'm here in the time I go home. And
it's just makes it feel good to know I'm serving
my people. It's I'm not a big d or anti anybody.

Speaker 2 (01:21:11):
I just believe that God.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
Has given me voice in this space, and so I
don't want I want to be. I've been unapologetic.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
As you know.

Speaker 4 (01:21:18):
I go to Fox Snooths talking the same shit. I
don't switch up, no conversation. But it does feel good
to know that my efforts, you know, the work that
I put into, if i'm you know that I'm I'm doing,
I'm investing in something that that believes in us, because
I believe in us, and I'll never give up on us.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Man, and y'all heard dear man, y'all make sure y'all
go check out Tears on ten or Revolt and the
Homegirl's podcast. She Got a dope ass podcast.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
You're supposed to say the thing and you didn't say nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
Oh well, let me just say this. I'm gonna say
this in the words of the n C A work,
wake your punk ass up.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
We are at a time where we cannot sleep. We
just literally cannot sleep. So I do want to thank
you guys, because people have tapped out guys. They be like,
you know, I ain't got nothing to do with it.
I'm just gonna mind my business and I'm encouraging everybody.
Every now and then just tap in with me on
the podcast. You don't have to listen to it every day.
You don't have to watch everything come across the string,
but every now and then tap in. And I can't

(01:22:18):
thank you enough, guys for having me here, because your base,
the people that's listening to this are my most important constituent.
I said all the time, my most important being. I
am not doing this for nobody, but you're the people
that's tapped into you are my most important and so
I just want to thank you guys for having me here.

Speaker 1 (01:22:35):
Yes indeed, and y'all heard it then and we out
of here. Yeah. Well that concludes another episode of The
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