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The following is a presentation of the College Athletes Network. Ma'am,
what a goddamn week. Welcome into episode three They Give
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Me Timmy podcast on the College Athletes Network, featured on
our Heart Radio. I'm your host Drew Timmy here with
the co host Noe Buano, and man, we got some
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if you had that subscribe button. I mean, first of all,
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you must have been getting great sleep Saturday night versus
the sleep you were getting Tuesday night before Texas, because
what a difference in outcomes. Um, let's dive right into it, man,
what's your perspective, your take on just I mean, we
can start with the Texas game briefly, like what happened?
What went wrong? Where did you guys turn? Um? Because
those two outcomes of those games were vastly different. Uh,
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so yeah, let's let's get right into it, man, we'll
break it down for us. Yeah. I think obviously Texas
took that game pretty personal, especially what happened last year,
and uh, you could just tell they had that this
extra fire about them. I think you could tell they
kind of wanted it more. Not to say that we
didn't want to win that game, but I just think
they had that extra going for them. And then obviously
like their arena was electric like and that definitely think
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the players and just coaches fed off that energy and
I think it really gave them the boost that they
needed to uh obviously kick our teeth. Then, Yeah, it
was tough. I mean how much do you think what
percentage of the environment did the environment play in you
know what ended up transpiring, because obviously you guys there
was a couple of you just had no fluidity throughout
the game. You couldn't really get comfortable. You didn't come
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out with a bad start in the game. It was
just like once it became this overpour of like their
comfort ability and your guys is discomfort. Obviously your guards struggled.
I mean, yeah, what what edge of that environment led
to that outcome? I mean I don't know the exact percentage,
but a huge percent definitely, just because you know when
when when you're doing bad and you're the home team,
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it's all right, you know your fans are still going
to cheer you on and hype you up. But vice versa.
When you're on the other team and you turn the
ball over and the crowds dogging you airball is shot.
They're dogging you that that can pile up and that
can m rattle people, and um, it's hard to counteract
that momentum, just because momentum is such a powerful tool
in basketball. Yeah, I mean they had all the juice,
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Like Tyreas Hunter Mitchell d suit. I mean, Tyreas Hunter
had like his best career college game against you guys,
Like he just was comfortable, they were ready, and then
they had the dunks at the end. Mitchell was just man,
I was, I was. My mouth was dropped when he
had that left handed put back. I was like, that's
like the worst thing you want to happen in a
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game like that is they just have a dunk parade
at the end while you're getting blown out by twenty.
I would kill for that athleticism. I'm not gonna lie.
Was so jealous, Yeah, I was so jealous. I was like,
give me, like just three inches at your vertical You'll
still be one of the highest jumpers in the country,
but like, just give me three like I'd love three
inches or something. Dude, he's quick twitched. He was he
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was amazing. I was not ready. Yeah, I mean it
was three possessions in a row and at that point
those are just a cherry on tops. And he's a freshman,
like he hasn't really been in you know, many Texas
big atmosphere games against good opponents like that. But yeah,
kudos to him, kudos to Texas. They played a great game. Um,
it just was kind of unfortunate because like it was
your kind of homecoming moment, you you know, you dropped
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thirty seven on him last year in Spokane, and it
was hard to duplicate that this year in that environment,
that new arena, that energy and there that vibe like
they just and and I also will say about that game,
like the way they played, no one in the country
would have beat them. I mean because if you look
at if, like the scouting report before that game, they
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weren't really shooting the ball well, and then all of
a suddens like every one's a shooter, everyone's a shooter,
and they were all hitting. It was just it was
one of those games where they had everything going for
them as well. Not that not that we didn't like
you know, we obviously like are at fault for a
lot of that, but I mean they had it going.
Like the way they played, I don't think any team
in the country would have beat him because that was crazy.
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I agree. I mean, you you've also said a couple
of times the last two episodes just about your guys
new group becoming more accustomed. You know, you have guys
stepping into bigger roles than they're used to. You have
transfers that have come in that are still adapting to
this environment to coach fuse system. Um. I I believe
maybe this is a little biased, but if you guys
play them again in that mid season form that you've
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touched on that you guys are not at yet as
a team, you know, the outcome of that game is
either different or it's just overall better game because you know,
you got this whole season to kind of still build
up to that, and you've touched on that before in
prior episodes. UM, just about like how you guys are
not at the point where you know you can get
to and are hopefully going to be at, you know
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come post season play. Yeah, this team it's new, It's
not like some of the previous teams I've been on
where it's kind of just been like this steady incline consistently.
This one's a little more up and down. And I
think we've seen that, even like with our Gamers Tennessee
and stuff, that this team has a lot of new pieces,
a lot of new moving parts. You have guys like
Nolan and Hunter coming into prominent roles, Guys got like Raw,
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Jillian and Tom getting even more of the spotlight and
touches and prominency within the system than guys like Maliki
and Eton who are brand new and still learning everything
that we do in the zag way. So this team
is good and we're still learning our identity and you know,
we're still building our character and kind of figuring out
how things work and what buns depressed and what buns
not not suppressed. But uh, we're getting there, and it's
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gonna be a process. It might not be as pretty
as something that I've been used to, but uh, it's
definitely something that every like we gotta go through and
we'll make it out for sure. Yeah, and you gotta
go through it. And I think it's also a cool
test for you. And what's probably your last year of
college basketball, because you're not going to have this same
steady flow of fluidity that you've had with prior teams.
You're gonna have a lot more ebbs and flows, like
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you said. But your position this year as even more
of a leader. You know, obviously you were a leader
of last two years, but this year in particular, you know,
like it's your last year. You're the senior on the team.
You've got the most experienced, the most as a as
a from a player's standpoint, the most perspective than the
rest of your guys. So like just being in that
position for yourself to like just be able to rally
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the troops in a game in March that's like that
Texas game, so that when you're down twelve, you can
come back same way you came back against Michigan State.
Like the Michigan State game was different. You were unfair
playing territory. There was really no home court advantage, so
it was kind of like, you know, it was different circumstances.
But your leadership role that you're kind of stepping into
this year, I think super important just for you as
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a basketball player, your role um because you have to
take it more serious, you had other guys you could
lean on Chat, you could lean on Jalen. Not that
you can't lean on as this year, but like there's
more pieces getting accustomed to this system than there ever was,
So it's it falls a lot on your shoulders to
rally them. Yeah, and I think obviously, like something that
I've been trying to do is just make sure I'm
locked in every single day because I mean, you know
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the practice scrind, there's like you had a lot, you
have a test or a lot of classes, or you
had a fun night or something. You're like, Man, I
can show like I don't really gotta do nothing, Like
I'll just get through practice. And I think that's the
biggest thing I've been trying to change is just making
sure every single day, like um, giving my arm, I'm
mentally focused the whole time. I'm pushing myself like every day.
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So I think for me, like from that aspect of
the leadership areas where I'm trying to grow, especially like
on this squad, because I think it's needed. Yeah, absolutely,
and I mean it's only gonna take you guys further.
But one thing I thought it was interesting after the
Texas came with some people on Twitter we're talking about
as coach, if you didn't let any of you talk
to the media after that Texas came, Did you know
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that was gonna happen? Do you even know why? Like?
Is that normal? Sometimes? Obviously you haven't lost a lot
of games like that in your career there, but like,
what was your outlook on on that that happening. I
didn't know why or the reason or anything for that,
but I would say we didn't deserve to talk to
anybody after the game, just because we definitely got our
teeth kicked in, So, yeah, we didn't deserve it. I guess. Yeah.
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It was. It was tough. It was honestly a bummer because,
like I know, so many people were so excited for
that game, especially you guys, like your team, your guys group,
and it just was one of those days where it
just wasn't your night. However, you know, you're in a
great system, You've got great people leading you guys and
Coach Few and the rest of your staff, and so
you bleed into this Kentucky game that was on Sunday.
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You had four days of preparation, three days of preparation
for it. What's the process, Like after this twenty point
lost to Texas, Like, how was coach few? What the
hell was the vibe? Like was it you know, was
there tension in the room. Was the film session brutal?
Like breakdown the post Texas atmosphere back in Spokane leading
up to that? You know that can Tucky win? Yeah?
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I would say we definitely were embarrassed of how we played.
You know, uh kind of had our tail touch between
our legs and uh coach was an asshole, but I
mean like he has to be. You know, that's just
unacceptable for us to come out and play that way.
And uh, the practice we had we're just long, crueling,
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brutal and just getting after just getting back to the basics.
I mean, yeah, they Texas played a hell of a
game and everything, but a lot of the stuff that happened,
like even on film, we were like God, Like, if
we just cleaned up like two or three areas that
were self inflicted wounds like our turnovers and are just
defensive talking and rotations, it would have been it would
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have been a closer game in the different games. So
just really just getting after it for like three hours
every day until the Kentucky game. Is crazy. No day
off on that Thursday either, I'm assuming right. Oh, we
had a from the gym film walkthrough day and walked
through quickly turned into we're going at it. I love
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that because you you gotta know in the back of
your head, like, bro, at some point he is going
to just say fuck it full go like I don't
give a ship if you guys aren't taped, Like I
got tape before film, I go already know what's about
to happen. This is not my first rodeo in this,
so I'm like, I told ours, like, let's get taped up.
How long was the film session? And like it was
one of those film sessions of like he's pausing it
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every every two seconds critique in you know, ripping somebody
was one of those vibes. Yeah, I mean there wasn't
that many clips, but let me tell you, it was
a long sash. We were just sitting in there and
we were just like, can this please don't be me
this clip, Please don't be me this clip, And and
it didn't matter even if you were a part of
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that specific player action. Everyone on the screen was getting it.
It was. It was a good one. I love it
because you know what I said to you in the
episode one where like they have all of this stuff
in their brain and they can just pour it onto
the white boards for like pregames and stuff like in
a film session, Like you could have nothing to do
with like three clips in a row, but somehow, some way,
he'll still find a way to that. Dude, you're left,
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your left foot wasn't in the paint. You were in
an help side. Get the funk over, like you pick
at something. They're doing a pick and roll, or the
guards are exchanging, and uh, he's getting on the guards
for not exchange. It's like and then like I'm in
the other corner but I'm not in the paint. He's like,
what are you doing? Like get your ass in the
paint and stuff, and it's just like like, dang, I
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thought I was safe this clip. Those are the brutal,
like dog days of college basketball, especially when you come
off a loss. It's just like, I mean, they're there,
they're they're like they're dog days, but they're so important
because like if if you really have the locker room,
which obviously coach few does, like those are the days
where you guys like truly figure out like how to
play and the next time you're down seventeen, how you
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can come back in an environment like that and win
the game. Um, because you learned you if you're paying attention, truly,
if you're paying attention, you're attentive in those film sessions,
you will learn a lot that will carry over onto
the court exactly. I mean that's what that's how you
build your character. Like sometimes you've gotta like just kind
of take it and like just adjust and learn from it,
because it could be one thing just to sit in
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there and be like, oh, yeah, coach is gonna get
on us, like we know we messed up, but like
screw it. Like you know, like you're just sitting in
there moping and everything. But like you gotta take it
on the chin and you gotta really like want to
learn and see where you messed up, and like straight
from the film sets to practice fix it right away
and show that you what what they said you took
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to heart to fix for the betterment of the team.
And that's the biggest thing with like games and situations
like that where you do kind of get embarrassed. It's
like you can mope around, but nobody feels sorry. For you,
and you know when the team collectively like it's really
engaged and knows and owns up to what they did,
and then like we answer, like that's just that's just
another brick in the wall of just our team just
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getting built more and our character just going up and up,
which is huge and so we needed. Honestly, I think
it was in the long run we can look back
at that experience and be like, look, like we know
it wasn't our best showing, but like we can take
a lot from that and how we responded the following
days and then which led up to the game there's Kentucky,
Like those are the things that like you take with
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you into March and late in season you have good buying.
I'm assuming guys like obviously they don't want to get dreamed,
but like took it well. And at what point leading
into the Kentucky game did the vibe start to get
back to neutral where it was like, all right, what
happened happened at Texas? Like now we like was it set,
was it Friday? Was it Saturday? Or was it not?
Until tip off of that Kentucky game, Like when did
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ship just finally feel like all right, all right, we
can breathe a little bit. It was it was after
that that day we that practice, that first one after
like because the film was lit. We got back what
did we get back at like three am something like that.
Two am? Yeah, and like we kind of just came
in from film and all that, and like that was
the last day. We were like, all right, it happened,
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and let it happen again. Screw it, Like we're onto
the next and the kind of just like that next
game because the thing about the schedule, you cannot let
that bog you down, rattled your confidence because the teams
that we're playing on the schedule, it could just snowball
and then it could be like you take a nap
and ship you lose four games in a row and
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you're like this, how did this happen? So, you know,
just being able to really forget about and then move
on quickly as a skill within itself. So that's definitely
a chap. And you know, I've mentioned the polar opposite
of the Texas game and then Sunday's Kentucky game and
just how well you guys played. Obviously you had all
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the advantages that UM Texas had, you know, with being
in the Spokane Arena and you had double almost double
the amount of fans you normally have in the McCarthy Center,
and like you know, you had all those advantages now
playing into your favor and overall, you guys just played
a better game. But you know, it is interesting to
see like the polar opposites and performances, and it's very
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rare when you see a good ass, very well coached
college team come out and have two of those performances
in a row. It just was it was so unlikely,
like there was I knew you guys didn't come out
and play a much better game. It was more about like,
how is Kentucky gonna come out, um, because they had
that loss to Michigan State and they had a couple
at a game against a low major school. But you know,
it was more about them, like were they gonna come
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out well? And they kind of came out like you
guys came out at Texas. But coach cal said, um,
we'll touch on this quickly because we've got to get
to a break. But he said, you know, he changed
the offensive game game plan at halftime. He said, you know,
Oscar couldn't run the sets because he hasn't practiced a lot,
he didn't really know much that was going on, and
he was like, so I just told him, like, we're
gonna run, you know, four out one, dribble, drive around
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you like, stay under the basket or whatever. Um, And
that was kind of what they did, and it kind
of worked a little bit in that second half they
cut it to five before you guys, you know we're
able to pull away. But I thought that was funny
because I mean, like he was on the team last year, like,
you know, the fucking plays. Yeah, and even too that
I would say a lot of their actions end up
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being four out one end with him in the middle anyway.
So like, I don't know if they really did change
their offense, but I think in the second after guards
got more aggressive drawing to the cup, I would say,
and even like they were quicker with their actions and stuff.
So I mean, I guess they changed them. I don't
know if they changed them in their offense, but I
feel like they kind of change their mentality. That's kind
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of kind of That's kind of how I felt during
that stress where they almost came back. Yeah, they had
a better approach than the second have what was it quickly?
What was it like, you know, just playing against Oscar
Obviously you said you guys are friends. You had that
whole Kentucky thing you explained on episode two with those rumors.
But um, you know, even playing against coach klan Ship
like had to be pretty cool, pretty similar to the
Tomazo stuff. Yeah, super cool. I mean great guys. Yeah,
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oh and I are great friends, and obviously, like it's
fun to play against them, and obviously, like him being
like the National Player of the Year last year, like
I obviously like I wanted to have a big game
against him, and like, yeah, no, for real, I wanted
to kind of just you know, show out a little
bit and be like, look like I'm in the running
for this too. So obviously there's a little extra juice
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from me there, just because I mean I think when
people like think of college basketball, like we're some of
the first few names you would think of, especially for
this year. So you know, it was a fun matchup
and it's one that I would love to have again,
just because it is so fun to compete against them,
and especially like a big school like Kentucky that everyone
always grows up watching and they have all the NBA players, like,
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it's super cool to play against him. Yeah, I mean
he played well. He had what and you had? He
had twenty and fifteen I think, oh yeah, I was
reading his minutes. Sorry he had twenty and fifteen. Oops. Yeah,
you had twenty two, seven and three. I mean pretty
equal balance. I mean it was a good matchup. It
was fun to see. Probably could probably didn't get enough
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one on one matchup since like people expected, but great
for the game. I mean it was fun to watch.
Like just seeing you two obviously two candidates for the
Player of the Year and you kind of trying to
claim that throne. I love it. Um, but yeah, I
love the love the turnaround for you guys. I think
it's a you know, it's what was needed, what was
it's what was expected. Um. All right, we're gonna go
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to a quick break when we come back and mix
up the order just a little bit. We got some
exclusive Timmy tips, first time doing that. Coming up. We're
gonna do some fan questions, preview some upcoming games. That's
all coming up right when we come back. All right,
Welcome back into the Gimme Timmy Podcast, Episode three Withdrew,
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We really appreciate it means a lot to us. Drew,
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I want to get into before we get into the
fan questions. Um, just some like tips from you and
just some advice you have for high school guys trying
to get recruited. Whether they're fringe D one, fringe D two,
It doesn't matter the player you're giving advice, dude, what's important?
What should their focus is? Be Like, let's talk a
little bit about just what you experienced and just kind
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of now that you've been through it, what you would
offer down to this next generation. Yeah, I would say
the biggest thing, especially with like the growth of social
media and like mixtapes and everything, is just like playing
for cloud or trying to always make like the highlight
play or like let me do this crazy no look
spin pass and then it's a turnover. Like coaches do
not like that stuff at all, like it it doesn't
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translate honestly, Like there's there's obviously guys who can do
that and it works for but on the whole, it's
something that not a lot of people can do at
a high level and do it well. So I think,
like really just like sticking to your craft and doing
what you excel in. I mean obviously, like you don't
want to do stuff that's not your strength like that
that doesn't make you look good, that doesn't help the
team wins. So I think like doing whatever you can
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to win at the best level is like the most
of that translate. Winning translates making the winning plays. That
translated translates at any level. Winning is getting the rebounds,
making the simple passes, like creating shots, Like the simple
stuff works, and it's not all about postering someone or
like taking fifty dribbles hockey ankle breaking someone and stuff
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like that. Stuff's cool, but it doesn't always translate. I
would say, yeah, there's definitely like a version of what
these younger kids see on social media in particular that's
like sort of detrimental to them because I think it
programs them to think like, well, I need the poster
dunk and I need to average twenty five at night
and I need that, like you know what I mean,
And it's like not always, it's not always like that,
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Like there's a lot more simple stuff that can be
done to position themselves to coaches, like playing on a
good AU team, making sure that you're playing against good
competition or other important things. And then, like you said,
planning your strengths. Man, like, if you're not good at something,
getting the gym and work on it. But in the game,
like just try to until the other stuff you're working
on gets up to speed, focus on the things that
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you are good at. I mean, a good example I
could say is myself. Like I had I like out
on Balls's life a lot and everything like, but I
just I'm not I'm not dunking on people all the time.
I'm not crossing people over all the time. Like I
just have good footwork and I just play play my
tail off. And I yes, I do, like in high school,
I think I everge like like twenty and like fifteen
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or something. But like I just I just played my
game and played to my strength. I wasn't doing step
back threes or anything because that's not my strength. And
like just sticking to like the process and what I
do best is what helped me get recruited and helped
me get on like balless life and all those things
that came with it. But like I was just me.
I wasn't trying to like be someone. I wasn't I
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would say, yeah, I mean if you could give some
perspective to a young big man and a young guard.
Obviously you have more of an outlook on the bigs,
but just something that's important for those guys to keep
building their foundation. You know. Is it touch around the rim?
Is it footwork? Is it defensive positioning? Like what what
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are some things that can help them accelerate their sess
you know again, to keep positioning themselves to schools. What
would you tell him? I would definitely say for big men,
like it's okay to be uncomfortable doing something or trying
something different. Like sometimes in the gym, I'll just come
in and like just just sunk around and like do
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weird angles with my pivots and weird finishing angles and
stuff that I probably would never do in a game.
But every now and then I just find something I
like or even doing, like like guard footwork, I'm like,
oh my god, like this footwork. I like how it
feels when I do it. But it's something that takes
me like a couple of tries. Like my guy Tyler Ralph,
like we work out a lot when I'm back home.
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That's my guy, And like, you know, he's crazy on
social media with the tennis balls and everything like monster,
He's like he's like a red bull. Can He's like
a kid a red bull if he was a trainer.
Like he's just always high energy, talking ship like love
to do to death, like the stuff like he we
do guard workouts and like crazy footwork and like that stuff.
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It makes me feel uncomfortable, Like I struggle with some
of the footwork stuff that a guard would do. But
like the more I do it, the more it kind
of feels more natural to me, the more I'm able
to use it in game, like against she Way, Like
when I was going to the Cup, I was putting
the ball in front of me, your in and outing
and like changing my body, you know how I dribbled,
like moving my shoulders more, taking an extra step to
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the left to just have that subtle misdirection to make
him shift his main his main frame outside of mind,
so I get that edge going to my right hand.
Like it's stuff like that that you wouldn't think would
benefit me at all, but like it does in those
certain aspects, Like that's what helps with your footwork. Maybe
the finish I like to do where I scoop under
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people like that came from me just messing around seeing
what would work because I wasn't scoring. Like, I think
being okay to get out of your comfort zone can
help you figure out more that benefits your style in
a different way. Yeah, you you push a certain limit
that like you probably would assume is not you or
it's unnatural. And I think a lot of ballers just
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they kind of just come to like to the their
senses of like you do it a couple of times
you're like, wait, I could I could shoot this reverse
jelly layup, Like you had that one reverse against Michigan
State where you were on the right side and you
went reverse to the left with your right hand and
you did the little you had the back spin on
it and you got the corner of the glass and
you got it. Like I don't think you probably thought
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you could have done that. You know, at some point
in high school you would have never thought to do that. Yeah,
just like crazy things you try. And like let me
tell you trying that shot in like high school and stuff.
When I was doing it, I mean I would just
hit straight the backboard, come straight back down right throw
it over the hoop like it was uncomfortable and something
that I really struggle with. But the more I kept
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working at stuff like that, because I'm like, this shot
could be really affected with me, especially with how it
seems like to double me. But once I picked the
ball up they want to leave, then I could step
through and still get to the cup and make a
high like it's a it's a high volume shot for me,
efficient shots so like, but it wasn't at first like
I had to get out of my comfort zone to
get comfortable taking that shot. Yeah. I think something too
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that you can definitely touch more on than I can
is just the patients that you have to have in
the post when you know before making before given getting
the ball, getting positioning then you get the ball. The
patients that you have to have, but you have to
be comfortable with being patient in the posts, Like you
have to be so comfortable and confident when you have
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the ball and it's in your court and you can
make a decision. If the double comes, you kick it,
you dribble out, you pass someone else, maybe you split
the double, get to the rim, maybe you spin off
before the double comes and you score it. Like there's
a comfortability in that post up position that guy's young
guys I think struggle with like the patience of because
they think they gotta rush. Everything's gotta be so fast,
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Like I catch the ball, I gotta go, I gotta go.
I mean, yeah, like you you have time, like there's
no need to be in the rush. And I'll give
you two examples from the Kentucky game. When I post up,
I'm usually not I'm usually not looking at my man.
I'm looking behind him because that's usually where the help
comes from, either the weak side or they got or
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the post feeder himself. So I look at the post
feeders man first, and then I look behind, look over
my shoulder and see where the defense is setting. So
when I hit ross Here for a three in the
late in the second half, which was a huge three,
I caught the ball in the post, and immediately I
looked over my shoulder and I saw all the Kentucky
players looking right at me, and ross Here shifted a
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little bit to the right, and I just fired it
right right over the one of the Kentucky player's heads,
and there was a wide open three because he was
looking at me and not facing his man, so I
knew he wouldn't be able to turn and close out
by the time he got the shot off. And then
the other example is I caught it on the right
wing and I threw this over the head past to
Hunt and then Tom got to put back done. That
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was in the second half as well. But like if
you notice, when I catched the ball, I didn't even
try to sc I just looked right over my shoulder
like that, just to see where the defense was. And
Hunter just is a great cut and he just snuck
behind the Kentucky dude and I saw that tight window
and I just fired it in there. Thank god it
went to him, because that was a pretty ballsy pass. Now,
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I think those are all especially for the big men whatever,
young young big men we have listening to this, even
just young young hoopers in general need to understand pace
and patience, um and just not feeling like you get
the ball like my Achilles heel was. I used to
catch the ball and I would put it on the
ground right away. I would catch it and just our driveling.
I never looked. Most coaches, moose couches did hate me
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because all I could do was shoot. Um No. But
it took me a while to just get comfortable like
in in certain systems and just like I mean most
of the time I was on scout team, but like
even in that, there was so much that got thrown
at us and was like I had one of our
g as came up to me my my first year
at to Kanan was like, Hey, I'm not saying this
to be a dick, but like I counted how many
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times today you caught the ball and dribbled right away
without like looking for even one second. He was like,
it was fourteen, And I just want to tell you
this so that you can like fix it, because I
know you want to get better. I know you want
to work at it. And I was like, oh my god.
It was so mad at myself because these are when
like these are small examples of like when things start
to click for you on the importance of just taking
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your time. Like how often do you see a guy
in the NBA or a good college player catch the
ball and you know, unless it's they see they're seeing
the play before it even happens, and then they make
their just they just they go quick. Most times they're
methodical and they're gonna catch the ball. They're gonna give
you a jab step a pump. That's why I like,
I think a lot of people say, including myself, like
the game just slowed down for me. I stopped thinking
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as much and I just you kind of let the
game come to you, and you just take what the
defense gives you. Because you have the advantage of the
offensive player. There's no need to be in a rush
to get to your move, get to a pass, get
to the next action. Like you are in control. You're
the one who sets the presidents of what's going to
happen and how what's going to happen for the most part,
and like you in the defense reacts to you, not
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the other way around. So that's why it's important, like
to be patient and to really assess the situation. Yeah,
you gotta. If you don't, If you don't assess and
look at what the hell is going on around you
and you just say, funking, I'm driving into the middle
of the paint, Well, I mean, what a dumb ass,
like you're gonna get stripped the help side standing right there.
Why would you go right? Should have went left? Or
you should have just get through the skip pass because
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the help is so pulled over. Like and whoever your
coaches is gonna look down the bench be like come here,
get him, and he's gonna be like, come sit right
next to me. The thing, the good thing there wasn't
a lot of times that I could get subbed out
on scout team because man, if there was, I would
have been getting my ass. So, um, now I think
that's all really cool. It's super important to you know,
for if there's any young people listening, like just that
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you know, are respiring to play college basketball, or maybe
young players in college basketball, like some of those things
that he was talking about with patients and you know,
just being comfortable and even getting into gym and working
on certain stuff, like you know, we can we can
incorporate a little bit more of this, um because obviously, Drew,
you've got a great perspective on just like how to
figure out what works for you as a player, what
doesn't work, and then how to just like we said
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way in the beginning, play to what does work, play
to your strengths, and try to just stay away from
doesn't work. What doesn't work. If you're not a three
point shooter, take one dribble in shoot the seventeen foot
or you're probably much better at it. If not put
your back to the basket strictly playing the post, try
to be a facilitator out of the post. You can do,
you can always do more, like whether you think so
or not? So? Yeah? Super cool? Um, I really like that.
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Why don't we wrap up with just some some cool
fan questions? We had some good ones come in today. Um,
mostly positive. I will I will start off with that.
Mostly positive. Um, yeah, what do we need the negativity for? Man? Like,
what you know, you didn't hurt anybody. I mean I
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guess if if if you, if that Texas game was different,
maybe people would have been mean. I don't know. Um, okay,
First one question for the pod. This is from Darren Alexander.
We're seeing increased number of turnovers so far this season.
Has this been discussed as a team and what can
you guys do to bring the number down? Go Zags?
That is a great question. Um, we have been turning
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the ball over the high clip. I think r O
E R for the game was one two and we
had eighteen turnovers. That's pretty insane. I mean, if you
I mean, I saw Sean Farnen say this today. He
was like, if you would have told me Gonzaga would
be Kentucky by like fifteen and had eighteen turnovers. I
would have told you that's not gonna like, that's impossible,
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and I part of that's on me. I've turned the
ball over a pretty high clip like that can have.
I got to clean myself up, especially like pass him quickly,
more quickly out of like the double teams and stuff.
I've probably been taking too much time, even though we
talked about patients earlier and then um also we did
play two high pressure teams like Texas and Kentucky. Do
pressure the ball out, You're gonna have way more possess
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is just because of how fast we play and they play.
So I think it's the game. But also we can
definitely clean some stuff up and it's something that we
have to get better at. Okay, next one. Hayden Dietrich said,
curious to know from Drew how much he thrives off
the reaction he gets from the crowd from just being him.
Does he think the team gets any edge from getting
under the skin of the opposing team. I honestly like
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I believe the game is mental, and I think any
time I see people get mad, annoyed, or with me
or my team, Like, I love it. It makes me
like makes me excited, like got him, and I think
even like got him and like or anything I can
do to like take an opponent off their off their
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focus or that edge, like, that's what I try to
do every time, because I would say for me, I
can joke around, laugh and have fun and smile and
still be locked in and sold that that fire and
gleam in my eyes and I think it's harder for
some people. So and the time I can kind of
break their focus or concentrations, it's huge for me. Yeah,
I like this one. Luke Butler asked, did playing in
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the Spokane Arena feel much different than the kennel or
did it feel like the kennel was double the size,
look like there was more students but it was. But
was it as loud and toxic of an environment as
the kennel? I will say that kennel is one of
the kind. I don't think it was as good as
the kennel, but that don't get a twisted. That place
was fucking electric. When when I saw the when it
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whatever the broadcast first turned on, I was like, where
the funk are they? Like? What? What? Is this arena,
Like I don't even know. I had my my girlfriend
look up because I was like I was doing something
on my phone, was like, hey, can you look this
up really quick? And it was like she said, like
some junior hockey team plays there or something. So I
don't know what goes on five minutes down the road
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from campus, so I mean, it's it's close. But yeah,
it was. It was packed in there, and it was
it was pretty cool because behind their hoop in the
second half, like it was just the total total wall
of students and that I mean they were they were hammered,
having a great time. I was jealous. I was like, dang,
I wanna I want to get up there and have
a beer. Like it was electric. Oh my god. Yeah,
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if I was in that crowd would have been wasted anyway.
That they did look electric, Like that twelve thousand versus
the six thousand at the Kennel. It looked fire. It
looked like what a thing to be like in the middle,
like to be the center of um. Next one is
Zags fans. That's the account. Are we going to see more?
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Point God drew two I emojis. I've always pushed the
ball and always done that since high school. That's just
part of the game. I mean, obviously most teams don't
laying out like Kentucky does, so like those driving lanes
were really open for me. But yeah, I mean, if
the opportunities there, I for sure will. Coach loves when
that happens. It's good for the team when it happens,
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because then it forces the defense to collapse more, which
these are shooters open. So yeah, I mean, if it's there,
no question, it's a good it's a good offense for us.
Someone said. Someone said, ask Drew if he is dunking
more on purpose. Also have him talk about the noise
at Moody Center. It seemed like Nzaga players couldn't hear
the coach and we're confused at times. You you were
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punching some ship against Kentucky. I was like, yo, did
he you do? Like do you take pre work out
and like snorted or something like before the game? What
the hell is going on? Like the reverse that didn't count.
I was like, oh, shore know, I ain't got a lie.
I haven't seen that clip, but I was like that
one felt so good. I was so sad it didn't
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count because I had a mean stass Shelly coming. I know,
I'm glad the whistle. Even when the whistle blew, you
still decided, like, well, I'm still gonna dunk it. Fuck it.
Like no, I've just been working out a lot more so,
like I just I've just felt way better, stronger, more athletic.
I feel like I'm moving better. Like I think just
a culmination that things has really kind of helped me
just like feel better and like more confidence when like
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going to dunk and stuff like I feel a little
bit lighter, I feel more strong, explosive, Like I think
it's just a culmination of things that have led to that,
but also like changing the mindset to dunk more. Like
the play I really think of about me dunking more
was that play where Tom threw the ball over the
top to me and I dunked it. Usually that's a
layup for me below the maybe touch the bottom of
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the backboard lay up and I just dunk it like
you do a little path backboard pads. Yeah, like a
layup line thing. So I think like a culmination of
those things along with the mindset and confidence, like like
it's easier for me to dunk and everything. I think
is for sure helping me. I'm gonna piste listeners off,
um and not ask you about what you just said.
With your body feeling better, your training regiment kind of
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changing and feeling more athletic. We're gonna get into that
on episode four because I we don't have enough time,
and I do really want to dive into that with
you because I think that that's a super super important piece. Um.
But I'm gonna make listeners. Man, We're gonna wait for
episode four or five to do that. But last two tease, Yeah,
we gotta get him to come back. Man, what's the um? Alright,
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last two question to Drew for the pod. This is
from Aiden. That's okay, this is this is drews Man's Uh,
do you ever regret not joining the high school golf team? Alright,
not gonna lie. I'm a pretty shifty golfer. Actually I could.
I golfed at a course up here and spoke can
and I shot par on three holes, no, two holes.
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Never done that. Legit like legit part like no, give
me is no, Like I'm the kind of guy that
like off the t box hammer a grounder like thirty yards,
go up to the ball and just throw it down
the course because I saw you know you can't, can't
golf with you? Then no, I like, I'll throw the
ball down the course. So I'm like, that was a
shifty hit, Like, give me a range, but I'll just
chuck it down the course. But why not just read?
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Why not just redrive it? Because I suck at it?
So like, so we need to go to the driving range.
I need a lot of help and I need clubs
that fit. But funny story, so he was on the
golf team and he was we were I was golfing
with him. You know, we were just having fun, just
hanging out and uh we played a game who could
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just chip it better out of the bunker? And guess
who won? And took his money? This guy. So like,
do I need the golf team in high school? I
don't know, because I might be him out of the bunker.
That's all I gotta say. Golf's tricky. Man. I've I've
played like a decent amount and I'm still really bad
at it. You definitely need clubs that fit you. And
there's such a science to him. Man. You and I
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always said, I'm like, I won't enjoy golfing until I
just like, bite the bullet and go get a couple
of lessons so I can get real tips. You know,
like I have a little understanding. But yeah, golf is fun.
I bet it's way more fun for the people who like,
you know, it clicks for It was fun for me
because I had so much improvement. The last time I
went that, I was like, damn, I want to go
play more because I think I'm actually getting relatively better
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for me. Dude. Quick thing on golf. I played in
May eighteen holes. I was horrible. I was the worst
in the group. And then I didn't touch a club
the rest of the summer. And I just went to
Top Golf recently on my birthday, and I am not kidding.
I was clubbing that ball. I just needed some time
away from the game. When you're shooting, you're in a
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shooting slump, you just get away. You don't even touch
a ball for a day or two. You come back
and you're like, I can't believe it's not buttered, dude.
My my mechanics got better. They were just in this
place where I was like, all right, you know, I'm
not as stressed. I'm not trying to hit the ball
as hard. You know what, this is a great idea.
I just came up with what we should do a
video podcast at top Golf where we talked, drink, have
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some fun, hit some golf balls for the viewers, compared
golf swings and mechanics like I've been talking to my
brother about, like when I'm going to get out to
Spokane for a game for a three point shootout. I
think we grouped that all into one weekend. I think
I think it's I think we have to. It's gonna
be a crazy week of content. That's all I gotta say.
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I'm gonna be so drunk every day. I'm not even
a big drinker. I'm just bullshiting. Okay, last question, this
is from Ryan Bick. If I send Drew something to sign,
will he signed it as Drew Himmy? I love that,
you know what, Just for you, Mr Bick, I got you.
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I told you they're all pretty positive. I like that.
All Right, we gotta take our last break here. We're
going to talk about the Film Night Legacy Tournament coming up,
Drew's body and how he's feeling early in the year,
and just some different approaches he's been taking this year.
That's all coming up right when we come back, All right,
what's up everybody? We're back on the Gimme Timmy Podcast,
Episode three. Please make sure you remember to subscribe to
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the podcast. Again. We can't stress enough how important it
is for Drew's sleep at night. He had fantastic sleep
Saturday night led to a huge win Sunday night against Kentucky.
And that's what we're striving for out here, boys, Drew.
I mean, let's dive right into what's coming up. You've
got the you know, the Phil Knight Legacy Tournament, uh
this weekend. Obviously we're recording this on Monday night, and
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so you know, throughout this week leading up to that tournament,
there's a lot of different potential matchups of teams that
you guys could play. Um, so why don't you touch on,
you know, just some expectations about playing in such a
cool tournament like this, being around a lot of other
high powered teams across the board. Yeah, it's a it's
a stack tournament for sure. I Mean, there's a lot
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of high level teams in there, and they all play different,
which is obviously a challenge just because you can't really
relate one team to another. And play style for the
most part, so I think being able to play like
different teams and that the games are Thursday, Friday, Sunday,
so it's like bang bang one day and then another game.
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So it kind of reminds me of the n c
A tournament from the setup of where you play a game,
you get one prep day, then you play again, and
those quick turnarounds and having to like totally like go
him one team where your whole time is devoted to
to a quick turnaround right to another team, and it's
hard to prep for a team in one day. So
it'll kind of be a good challenge and good prep
for us. Uh you know something we can take with
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us in March. Yeah. High powered list of teams Duke,
Oregon State, Florida, Xavier, Perdue, West Virginia. Obviously, if you
guys keep winning, you'll play the winner of Purdue in
West Virginia. If you win that game, you'll get to
the championship round where you could play the other side
of the bracket, which consists of the Xavier, Florida, Oregon State,
and Duke. Would be pretty cool if you played really
any of those teams. Um Obviously the most high profiled
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matchup would be if you guys ended up playing Duke Um,
which would be crazy, man, you'd play Michigan State Kentucky
Duke all in like your first five games of the year.
I mean, but even that doesn't really you can apply
that to whoever you end up playing in this tournament,
Like there's gonna you're you're gonna be playing this list
of these It's it's a it's a great early test
for you, like we were saying earlier, for you guys
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to just kind of keep figuring out your identity. Um.
But the more important matchup I think that we should
talk about. It's just that people can really get excited for,
is that Bailor matchup, because that's setting stone. We don't
know who you're gonna end up playing in this Phil
Knight Legacy Tournament, but that Baylor matchup December two, a
couple of guys returning on this team for you, For
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you guys you know, got Aunton julian Um yourself um
excited for that? Does it mean a lot to you?
I mean, obviously there's not your same core that lost.
You're going to war with different guys, but you probably
have a little bit of a Vandetta. I mean, I mean, obviously,
I I want our lick back for sure, Like you know,
they took it to us and then it's a good game.
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But I mean they also have a different team as well.
I think they return Flow and uh every day John,
I think I think those are the only two players
they've returned, because I mean all those guards that they
had left and um so I mean obviously we're two
different teams than what we both were at that time.
But uh, yeah, man, they beat us, and uh, I'd
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love to even up to see areas just because I
don't like to be on the losing side of any series.
I hear you, um a lot of different matchups that
could come your way, and just the rigorous grind of
college basketball is already kind of starting to take its
hit on you, is it, or you know, is that
just natural? Like like, how is your body holding up
during these games? And how are you feeling on a
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day to day basis? Yeah, I will say today, which
is the day after the Kentucky game, like I felt
pretty beat up and sore and exhausted, and honestly, like
the grind of a season, it hits the hardest at
the beginning and at the very end, because at the
beginning your body is not necessarily conditioned to that grind
of practice and games and everything. Then towards the middle
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of the season, like your body kind of gets conditioned
to it and everything. And then at the end of
just like ship, you played a lot of games and
you've lied a lot of minutes and practices. But I've
been making sure, you know, to get him my cold tub,
get some cupping done, I'll get an extra rehab. I
would say that's an area of growth for me. You know,
in the earlier segment we talked about kind of just
my diet and like weight training, Like I've actually taken
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like recovery serious, so like making shug in the ice
tube every day and chilling in the hot tub like
a dumbass for forty five minutes after practice, just on
TikTok or something like. I've been making sure to like
actually like take care of my body because what they
say is true. Your body is a temple. Your mind
can feel good, but if your body feels like crap,
You're gonna perform like crap, and vice versa. Drew, you're
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selling like a real pro man. I mean that's the
type of stuff that clicks for guys when they start
real like, oh, I'm trying to be a pro, A
pro I will say, coming back for the senior year,
like you you really do learn some stuff, and uh,
you're not as young as it used to be, because
you know what the craziest thing is to me when
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we're in a U, you play like six games in
two days and then you go have one practice here
in one game and you are wiped out. I'm sorry,
but I don't even know how Like that's still like
a thing like did these older dudes, older people scheduling
this ship just not care about the dude. I didn't
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even really know what stretching was until I was like, like,
it's like a I don't know, freshman sophomore in high school.
Like and I can promise you I didn't really start
stretching my hip flexors until like my junior year, and
it it was only to my detriment. I mean sure,
like I probably was introduced stretching and didn't give a
ship when I was younger, but still like playing that
many games as a kid, even if you know what
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stretching is and you're doing a great job as stretching
out your body. It's like, what what are we doing?
What are we doing? Like I know when I when
I was in AU, I could literally eat like a
kick cat or something in two minutes, in like two
minute warm up because you know, sometimes the game is
going to overtime and they got to this schedule, they
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got to follow us. Like you get two minutes and
you go and you're fine, it doesn't matter. And then
after the game, you're all hanging out at the gym
because you how to stay up there all damn day
because it's too far to go home. So like you
hang out with your team all day and you eat
Cheetos or something some bullshit and the gatorade in between games,
boiled hot dog. You no ice. You don't do anything
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but sit and get on your phone and run around
and play tag or some some dumb something dumb or tips,
and then you go back out there for another three minutes,
run around, get a light swept before the game, and
you're off. When you do that like four times in
two days, and it's just like where did that go?
Why can't I get that back? You get there? You
want it back? If I could have, I'm advocating against this,
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are you? Are you pro? I'm talking about the way
that I was able to just play so many games
without stretching. You're doing or doing recovery like that aspect.
Now I need the rehab and recovery and stretching like
it's mandatory for me now, and like I'm understand the
value and I'm totally on board with that, but just
that that kid energy where you can just get thrown
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into a million games and be fine, Like I guess
that's why I didn't stretch, just because I knew, like
I'm fine. I'm like, give me like twenty minutes to
get some water and then I can go play again.
It's just like what you're stiff a little, but then
it's just simple to like once you're you start getting
that initial sweat, you're like I could go for two
more hours, like I'm good. But yeah, I mean, I
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think like they're taking it serious for you in particular
where you're at now in your career, Like your body
is different, like recoveries a little not obviously it's not
you're not thirty eight, you're not lebron or like you
gotta you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, But like for
your sake, like you're still are obviously super young, where
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your body is going to recover at a faster rate anyway,
just because you are only twenty two, maybe it's not
as fast as when you were fifteen, but you know,
I think it's cool to hear like you kind of
just stepping into more of that professional mindset on, Like,
hey man, my body is my temple, like any teammate
I've had in my career, Like it was always cool
when like my teammates would talk about that stuff because
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like I come from a chiropractic family, Like both my
parents are chiropractor, so like I grew up around like
your body is your temple. Like so it clicked for
me earlier than it clicked for a lot of like
players that I played with that are way better than me.
And I'm like, dude, if you would just stop drinking
mountain dew at nine am, bro, you would be killing
Like so I don't know. I always kind of love when,
like it final certain things like that click for guys
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because you you'll see how far it can take you.
Like I was listening to Chris Paul. He was saying
stuff about like how much better his body has felt
since he went full vegan, like he doesn't eat any meat.
He has a whole I hope I'm not miss quoting him.
I think he's a full vegetarian, like doesn't eat meat. Obviously,
he has his nutritionist and his his chef that prepare
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him like all great meals. He's always been a little
injury prone throughout his career, but I think, like you know,
he's had some minor stuff with this diet, but he's
he's been on the court a lot more in his
older age than you probably would have expected, and it's
correlated to his diet. I mean, so diet postgame recovery.
I love it. I'm I'm happy for you that it clicked, man,
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because it's super important. No, it is, like it is crazy,
like you hear about it all the time, and it's
like you're beating a dead horse, like it's a broken record.
Like yeah, you're as a kid, like I get it,
I gotta do this stuff like whatever. But then like
when like you know, when you get to that point
where like after the game, it's like, oh, I'm actually
a little more sore than I usually am. Like it
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just gets to that point where you're like Damn, I
really got to get sweaty and like get in my stretching,
my ice tub, my recovery, Like I gotta make sure
I stretch after a game, Like you can't just put
bags of ice on. You gotta actually stretch and then
put some ice on like stuff like that. It's just
it's it's a little sweaty for me, but you know,
like it's what I do. What you gotta do. Stop it?
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What you're not gonna get away? What is sweaty? Man?
You keep saying this, I'm not hip? What what the
funk is this dude? A sweat is someone? Like is
this an ultimate ultimate try hard? Like coaches like, all right,
we gotta walk through day like you don't need to tape.
And then there's this kid that's just sprinting off actions
like like yelling and hooting and hollering and it's like
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a chill there, like you're playing like Call of Duty
and the dude just slide cancel, bunny hopping and everything
and like whyy tapping, spamming or like the kid in Fortnite,
Like you're pushing a dude in Fortnite and he just
builds a mansion and like ultra edits on you, like
take a shower, bro, Like calm down, Like that's a
sweat dude. But you've used it in positive connotations like
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oh that's sweaty, bro. Like I've heard you say it
in a positive way. Oh yeah, you're describing this in
a negative way. It can't be a good thing and
a bad thing. I would say, it's easier to understand
it is a bad thing, like, so give us the
give us the good way, like I'm a sweat and
FIFA like I take pride and just how like greasy
in the game, I'm gonna get like I'm locked in,
like you're not breaking my mental fortitude when I'm on
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the sticks and FIFA like I'm I'm in it to
win it and I'm not taking it now, like I'll
get sweat like I definitely was. I definitely was the
try hard. Sometimes he'd say like, yeah, we're only going today.
I like, fuck that, I'm busting ass today. Put a
hand up because I'm on fire. I didn't care, So
I was. I'm I'm a try hard fine. I won
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the Physical Education Award my senior year of high school.
Can I get a new co host? Hey man? Jim
was my favorite. I'm one of those guys that will
admit Jim was like my favorite. Period. We had block scheduling,
so would be like had eighty minutes of each thing,
only four classes each semester. Damn, so you had Jim
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for you know, it takes twenty minutes to get changed
and get whatever warmed up. You had sixty minutes to hoop,
play flag football, play spike ball full. We didn't have
that at my high school. Ship was fire. I mean
it all right, I'm hipped to sweaty. I hope people
understand the lingo. I don't know if I'm going to
start using it, but I I think I think I might,
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I might convert. I don't know. It's a multidimensional term.
It can go good and bad. It fits a lot
of situations, Like you'd be surprised how many situations it
fits for I've and I feel like I'm gonna end
up using it in the negative way. But whatever. Um
all right, y'all, We appreciate you guys tune in. That
is a rap for episode three. This was a good one, man.
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I hope people enjoyed. We hope you guys subscribe. Drew,
what do you got signing off before we talk to
everybody next week. Hey man, appreciate you off for tuning in.
Make sure you guys subscribe. It'll help me get some
better sleep, which hopefully it equates some more WS. Like
we just got big dubs, So let's keep the Hypes
train going. Baby and hey man, thank you guys. Hey,
and that sleep thing is real. Okay, we're not just
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saying it to funk around. Subscribe. He'll get better sleep
to win games now. But on a serious note, have
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