The Corey Kispert Interview | Ep #8 |

In segment 1, Drew & Noah discuss:
- The stache is back
- Drew's Christmas break
- Drew's rebound battle with Julian

After the first commercial break, the crew is joined by Drew's former teammate and current Washington Wizards shooting guard, Corey Kispert. They talk about:

- Difference in NBA from year 1 to year 2
- Corey's shooting mechanics
- Playing with Bradley Beal
- Corey's insecurities on & off the floor
- Reminiscing 32-1 Zag szn
- Mark Few memories
- Social dynamic in NBA vs. College

Hosts: Drew Timme & Noah Buono

Guest: Corey Kispert

Producer: Noah Buono

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:03):
The following is a presentation of the College Athletes Network
talked to bottom like I mean, Jalen, Drew, Joel Um,
Andrew came on late, Anton was huge, Aaron Cook like
all those All those guys contributed to us winning. And
the reason why we were able to string together thirty
two in a row was with a season like that

(00:25):
is because we're so tight, and that's what I remember
most about that season. What's Up? Everybody? Welcome into the
Give Me Timmy Podcast with Drew, Timmy and myself Noah

(00:45):
Bono on I Heart Radio and the College Athletes Network.
This is episode eight of the podcast. Just want to
thank everyone that's tuned in and been rocking with us
these past eight weeks. Drew, what's up, baby man? Great
glad to be back for episode eight. Guys, make sure
you leave a star wide review, trop a comment, anything
and everything you can do will help give you some
good karma going into the new year. We're switching up

(01:06):
from Christmas. I mean, not me, but you know different.
Hey man, we got a lot in store today as well.
After our first commercial break, we're gonna have Drew's former
Gonzaga teammate current shooting guard for the Washington Wizards sharp
shooter Corey Kissbert joining us after we bounce around a
little bit here in segment one. True, let's first of all,

(01:26):
first and foremost, how was Christmas? Being home with the
family for a few days, and then you probably got
more days off over Christmas break than you have had
in a couple of years. I mean, so talk to us,
how is Christmas? Man? It was great, man, just getting
getting able to just get away from everything and kind
of just take a break. Obviously physically my body needed
a break, but mentally it was nice just to kind

(01:47):
of get away, get home, be low key. I mean,
I did not do a thing. I do not blame you.
I just ate, drank and chilled and like it was awesome,
and uh, it was definitely needed, just because it's been
a long, long, uh season, just with all the schedule
and the rigorousness of it and everything. So it's nice
to get away. What were we eating and drinking? Do

(02:09):
you guys have a standard Christmas Eve? Christmas Day dinner menu?
So what we did this year is we had Thanksgiving
food because we didn't have we didn't get to like
a real Thanksgiving with the family, so we were kind
of like screw it, Like, let's just have Thanksgiving and
Christmas together. So like that was pretty cool. So did

(02:30):
you do the Thanksgiving dinner on Christmas Eve or Christmas Day?
Christmas Eve? Yeah? Okay, I like that. I mean, I
don't like turkey enough I want to eat it that much,
but got this Cajun turkey m s occasion anything slaps.
Last time we talked to you, guys were gearing up

(02:52):
for that Montana game, and there's a lot to touch
on from that game, simply from the fact that not
only did you guys win, you were had a monstrous performance,
but there's a couple of things that came out of it.
You dropped thirty two, eleven and five Gonzaga, and the
team sets the modern day record for most consecutive wins.

(03:13):
It's most consecutive home wins at seventy two straight. And
on top of all of that, you get your hundredth
career college win. A fucking incredible man like, all in
one night. I mean, first of all, congrats to you,
but like just talk to us about you dominate on
the floor. You get this home consecutive win record, you
get your hundredth career win for the Zags, like and

(03:36):
in your college career. I mean, just like, what's that
feel like? Break that down for us all in one game,
Like that's crazy? Yeah, I mean, um, I think I've
been around for most of those seventy two wins too,
which is crazy. And then to have a hundred wins total,
it feels like it's a lot, but at the same time,
it doesn't, just because we've played so many freaking games.
So it was pretty cool to see that. And then obviously,

(03:59):
um our buddy Sean just motivated me to get the
thirty piece. I made sure to make my free throws
when I got close to thirty so his son won't
be disappointed in me anymore. Let me right, there no
no offense to Sewan. That game was for me. We
have been talking about that for weeks. Okay, so but
that ship was for me. It was for you and

(04:20):
him and his son, not him. Yeah, appreciate that, but
continue but yeah, man, uh you know, uh, montanad not
want to let us get that record. Let me tell
you they they're a good physical team, and it was.
It was a grinder of a game. And uh, I
would say typically like I'm not a fan of really

(04:41):
like taking over games. I like to be more of
a facilitator, I would say, but uh, that's what the
game kind of dictated, just because of we were kind
of bogged down at the kennel. It was it was great,
like it was packed, but the students weren't there. Energy
was dead. Everyone was kind of ready to go home,
and uh, you know, I kind of just had to
get in that mode where it was like screw it,
like this record and everything, like I'm not letting it happen.

(05:03):
And that's kind of just the route that we had
to take to get the team takeover. Were you aware
that that was your gonna be your hundredth career win
as well? Though? Did you know the only thing the
only thing we knew about was the home record. I
had no idea and I don't that was my hundredth
winn until after. This is just a pretty cool feat though.
It's just like shows kind of what we talked about

(05:24):
back on episode one, when you were like, you know,
I think something that gets you know, overlooked about me
is that I just win. And yes, this is truly
only your fourth season, so it's not like you're one
a hundred games and it took you into your fifth year,
like you one a hundred games and you did it
not even I mean just to I guess around the
halfway point of your fourth year. So I think it's

(05:46):
more than impressive. And I mean, on top of it,
last five games, you're averaging ten and four on sixty
just dominant numbers. I know your humble, I'm gonna be
cocky for you, man, but just absolutely busting ass out there,
like it's gotta feel good. Get into a rhythm flow
of the season, Like I know your body has been

(06:07):
a little banged up, you know here, and they're just
like everybody else, is the grind of the season. But
I mean to maintain that headed into conference play, like
you're probably at least mentally you're feeling pretty good every
time you step out there. Yeah, man, I mean as
a player, like when you just get easy buckets, especially
just with all the double teams I get and all
the attention and just the shift of the defense when

(06:28):
I touch it. It's like just getting easy buckets is
so huge, and I think that's been the like the
way I've been able to score. Just the guys are
just finding me in easy positions where I can get
to a quick cooker, I'm running the cord or it's
a rebound put back like stuff where I can't get
doubled and have to deal with the whole defense loaded
up on my side. Has really helped, I think, obviously
get me more points. And then Julie and I have

(06:50):
been beefing for a top rebounder on the team because
he had it. I think he's at like I don't
know what he's at, but we we've been going back
and forth on that because I always say I box
out and then he runs in and gets the rebound
from me from the pocket. So we have a nice
slow competition going on with that. So hopefully I don't
want to give that one back up to him. Is
he up in the is he close with you? In

(07:12):
the per game rebound? Per games? He was ahead of
me until this stretch that I've been going on lately.
That's like a typical guard thing to kind of come
in and just stealing from the big. I mean, you
can only do so much. But I've been saying to
you though. The reason I I said to you before
like that thirty intent was for me is because I
was saying to you the one day after the pot

(07:34):
I was like, dude, I know it's hard, but like
I think if you just like went out there and
you were just like really gave it your all every
second of the game and you you know, finished plays
with rebounds like you could easily get thirty intent and
you were like hesitant, but then you're like, yeah, you're right,
Like two games later, you fucking did it. So I'm
not saying I take credit for it, but I'm goddamn

(07:56):
I'm goddamn happy. I'm goddamn happy. I'll be cocky for
you because of you. Man. Now you're giving me the
full Now you're giving me the full credit. It's my
podcast partner, man, That's what we do. We motivate each
other and push we do. We push eath we put.
We push each other before and after the pod. People
don't know that, but we do. They don't know. They
don't know equity in this podcast. Oh God, talk about

(08:19):
eight episodes and we're sweating our balls off in here.
It's crazy though, because like you're mentioning, you know, you
mentioned something about being in the post and getting your
shots off and like just to have thirty two points
and you should I don't remember exactly what your percentage
was in that in that game. Um, it was obviously efficient,
like I said, your six over the course of the

(08:40):
last five games. But like I would just want to like,
if I'm guarding you, and you know, if I'm Montana,
if I'm Kent State, whoever, Like why aren't people just
punching you in the ribs, like hitting you, hurting you.
Like I'm not saying that they should, but like like
it would be it would be fuck you, man, Like
what do you I'm not letting this? What do they

(09:02):
can't do anything else? They clearly can't guard you in
just a normal way, like they gotta inflict a little
bit of pain. No, I ain't gonna lie. In the
Montana game, they were hitting me like all the time,
like just hitting the running down and yeah, and I
mean like obviously within like the bounds of the game
or whatever, but like they're being extra physical. And there
was one play like early in the game where like

(09:24):
Bro just was like I was trying to back him down,
you know, without getting a charge, a little cautious and Bro,
it's just munching me. And I'm like I turned the
ball over and I'm like it's right. In front of
Montana bench and I'm like, ref what the funck, bro, Like,
what are we doing? Like? And he's over there and
all the Montana dudes are laughing at me or like
saying this, and I'm like, I look at him. I'm like,

(09:46):
y'all are fucked now. And then I went off like
they did team me up a little bit, but uh yeah,
they I mean they tried that, and I mean, I
don't know, I just feel like you're you're just probably
so annoying to defenders out there. It's like, oh, and
by the way, I gotta bring this up. That that

(10:08):
fucking Coast to Coast dunk, the rebound and the over
the top punch. It are you? Who's that guy? That's
been me? That's been me since high school? Man, that's uh,
you gotta look at my boss life highlights. That's that's
a staple. That's a staple of Drew timmy transition bag.
When I saw the clip, I'm like, Okay, Coast to
Coast like probably gonna make a play or have a

(10:29):
nifty finish. I did not think I was gonna see
a swim move over the top. Yam it in your mouth?
Like I've watched the video a hundred times. The over
the top is my signature, the dunk. That's not the signature.
That's not part of the package. But it happened, and
I was like, I was so little, was like like
you and I didn't even I'd even stroke my stash.

(10:51):
After I was sad, I was like, damn, that would
have been an O D one Damn. And then degeneration exit,
you know, okay, not to mention it. I know we
don't have full videos, so people wouldn't know this until
they see some of our highlight clips. But Mr Timmy
brought back to stash. It's back in full effect for
conference play. I mean it was after Christmas, so like

(11:13):
it's basically a new year. So I was like, you know,
it might just be time to switch it up for
a little bit. Um A little bold of me to
switch it up, I would say, because I've been I've
been killing with the beard as you alluded to earlier
over these games stretches. But I figured, you know, uh
might a new year. Knew me, maybe I'll get Stash back.
So if I do get in the stash, maybe I'll
have to keep it then. Yeah, Drew actually has no

(11:34):
respect for December thirty one and the fact that the
new year doesn't start for another couple of days. He
keeps saying that the new year just starts right after Christmas.
That's how this guy's calendar works. Pretty I don't know
what the fun is wrong with him, but I mean,
basically it's a new year. Like what major holiday happens
after Christmas? Like you know what I'm saying, Like after Christmas,
it's like bet, like I'm getting ready for the new year.

(11:56):
Like let me go ahead and lock into what I
got in January and February. Like New Year's is fun,
like the ball drop been great, great ordeal, great part
of great vibes. But like basically it's the new year. Yeah,
And I mean there's no like I guess religious holiday
that comes up again until Easter. There there's like MLK

(12:16):
Day is their Veterans Day or Precedent's Day, there's one
of those days in January. Yeah, but like it's the
last major holiday, so like it's great the last major
as a new year. Yeah no you no, No, I
mean that's fair. Like I said, you just got a
weird calendar. Weird guy, weird calendar. I mean it's good.

(12:37):
If it's the bill, it's all right. So conference play
before we hold it head to break, just like you
got Eastern Oregan is not in your conference, so we'll
skip them. But like after that, it's it's conference play
from here on out. How are you feeling headed into it?
You go from nonconference to conference and this conference play
is going to be the gear up for you know,

(12:58):
putting together your team's complete package headed into the postseason.
So it's important play no matter what conference you're in. Yeah,
and um, this conference is it's a little tough this year.
I mean obviously b y U, I mean there's having
kind of a down year for them, but uh, I
mean they beat crighton the other month or week or
whatever it was. But I mean, like, so we got
a kind of tough conference this year, Like if we

(13:20):
got a lot of talent in there, a lot of transfers.
So I mean, if we don't show up, I mean
we've seen that against n I U, Kent State and Montana,
Like if we don't come with our ship tight and
locked in, then um, we're not the easiest team to
pull the win out. And if we're not fully locked in,
So I mean it's it's gonna be a good challenge
for us to be mentally engaged every single game, night
in the night out. So I think for this team

(13:41):
in particular, it's gonna be a big challenge for us. Yeah,
it's gonna be fun though, it's gonna be exciting to watch.
I'm excited to see you guys kind of keep putting
it together. Riding up five. At this point, I lost
track of the wind streak. It's five or six. But
you guys have been playing well. You're headed into conference play,
a lot of momentum, a lot of confidence, exactly what
you need. Um, So the wheels are turning the right way.
And lastly, before we go to break that, Dallas Cowboy

(14:03):
win first, then them Eagles on Christmas Eve? What a
Santa and I were gonna have a long talk if
the Cowboys lost that game and it wasn't gonna go
well for Santa. I was so excited that we won
and everyone was like, oh my god, you guys beat
a backup quarterback. What the hell did the Eagles do
after they beat us? When we had Cooper Rush playing,

(14:24):
they had Meek Mill having a concert, and everyone's going crazy, like,
keep that same energy. We're gonna bring it right back.
So Eagles hold that fat l like I love it.
That made my Christmas like if I got no gifts,
nothing and that was it, Like I was happy, Like
that's all I need in my life. Yeah, I don't
blame you. And I mean when Dak threw that pick
six to start the game off, like, it's not like

(14:47):
the game started off easy for them. They were downten
nothing in first five minutes of the game. Like hey
and t Y Hilton got his full contract. Where at
that game he got the huge penalty which led to
a touchdown I think, and then he caught the third
and thirty or whatever past like what a pick up man.
Look at Look at Jerry just wheeling and dealing with
the pickups. Just a great football game. I wish he

(15:09):
would wheel and deal and go get Odell Beckham. But
we'll save it. I don't think it's gonna happen. I
don't think it's gonna happen. Um. Oh, and you mentioned Christmas.
Give us your your favorite gift that that you got
Christmas morning. I really love getting clothes because that's just
one of those expenses where I'm not like really gonna
buy clothes like that. So I got this awesome sweater

(15:30):
from my brother. I would show it, but it's probably
not the most appropriate thing that has Cartman here, it's
a south Park sweater. South Park, the best sweater. And
then um, I got some pajama pants, some jeans, you know.
So it was just overall great Christmas for me, and
uh it was it was. It was great. Man, got
some clothes, some essentials that I needed. How about yourself? Man,

(15:51):
you get some good gifts? I did. I gotta. I
got some like necessities, packs of shirts, underwear, uh, socks,
just the essentials. Like you're saying that I didn't the
best gifts, like six eight years ago, I'm throwing hands
if I'm getting closed, but like now I love close,
salty prick if that's what I got six Yeah, Like
if you don't give me, like I don't know, an

(16:12):
iTunes gift card or like some like action figures set, Like, Mom,
I'm where's my iPad? Why did you get you gotta
be a back of underwear? I wanted an iPad. I
wanted Apple Watch snots or like some new nerve guns
or something like I need something. I need something elite
as a kid. But now, like if I get clothes like,
I'm a happy camper, not facts. I'm on board with that.
And I got a ton of stuff that was needed

(16:34):
that I didn't want to spend my own money on.
So shout out to my mama. Um. All right, we're
gonna take a quick break here on episode eight. Please
don't go anywhere though, because we come back. We're gonna
be joined by the NBA Sharpshooter form a Gonzaga Bulldog,
Drew Timmy's former teammate Corey Kissburg coming up here on
the Gimme Timmy Podcast right when we come back, And
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(16:56):
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give Me Timmy Pod. But right now, let's welcome in
Mr Efficient himself, former zag currently on the Washington Wizards,
Corey Kissper. Corey was good man, welcome into the show.
Appreciate you joining us. Good to have you. Yeah, man,

(17:19):
of course, thanks for having me UM, so starting us off, Corey,
you guys are thirteen and twenty one, not fourteen and
twenty one. Excuse me, just one only two or two
and a half games out of the plan. It's still
really early, a ton of basketball to be played. But
I think just start us off with just like your
second year, how it's gone, expectations that have been met

(17:40):
or not met, and just how you're feeling during your
second go around in the NBA. Yeah. Man, the difference
between year one and year two is so different. Like,
I feel way more comfortable. I know exactly where I'm
gonna get my shots. Um, the flow of the game all,
I mean, everything is just more comfortable. Um. The first year,

(18:02):
you're just kind of trying to find your footing and
be as best as you can in the you know,
in the role that you're given. You know, I was
just outside the lottery, so I was able to kind
of play right away. Um, but you know, the majority
of rookies in the NBA are just kind of getting
in when it fit in, and your two is kind
of a chance to carve out your role and set

(18:22):
up your future. So, UM, I'm off to a good
start on that. Um, Like you were saying before we started,
my numbers are up, and you know, I just feel
better and better out there every game. Um, it's a
it's a world of difference from your one. Yeah, man,
that's dope. But obviously numbers up, you've been very efficient.
I see Zach twitter tweeting about you a lot, man,
But the moment I could really tell the confidence was there. Man,

(18:45):
was that half quarter the other week? Just that was amazing. Man,
you were the Mr. Half court guy when you're at Gonzaga.
So how great did it feel to finally hit one
in game in an NBA game? Let alone? Do your
listeners know about the half court tradition Againzaga, I think
they're getting for Yeah, Well, before the before every game,

(19:06):
we have a shoot around and just kind of the
classic shoot around and get some shots up, get your
body moving, go through the other team. Um. It can
kind of feel like a drag sometimes to be honest,
and we check out a lot. But um, when you
go um down to the stretch. Um. At the very
end of the shoot around, we each shoot one half
quarter going each way, and we all line up and

(19:27):
we take one and we have one of the managers
mark them down. Um. If you make them and mark
it down. If you make a second um, so you
make two of both of them during a shoot around,
you get three, so they add a third under your
total UM. And I was the undefeated and undisputed champion
in my senior year at Gonzaga, and so it just
felt like a normal day, normal day at the office.

(19:47):
Man just caught it. Took one trible left right, and
I think was cash all the way you pulled that thing,
as if you were just standing shooting a free throw.
It was just look effortless. But I mean, you're shooting
this year, which was something I wanted to ask you
about because last year, I think you like thirty four
from the three line. Now you're you're up in the forties,

(20:08):
which is like kind of where a guy like you
wants to be in the NBA, just to solidify yourself
as just a marksman. Like I introduced you on the
show before you got here, is you know, sharpshooter, NBA
sharp shooter. That's kind of what you're set out there
to do. But you you mentioned like carving out a
role in like just being the player later on, like
this is what this year will help frame Like the

(20:29):
type of career you're gonna have where what kind of
career do you see yourself? Like? Are you you you
look at yourself as like a JJ Reddick, a Kyle Korver.
You think you're a little bit better, Like where do
you kind of put yourself? Yeah, it's a combination of
a lot of that stuff. Man. J. J. Reddick is
a really good example. I think of guys who can
really shoot it. Um obviously are a marksman from behind

(20:50):
the arc and can beat teams that way. But UM,
I really do think that I have the ability to
play inside the line at the NBA level two. UM
on every scouting report from every team across the league,
like the number one thing is gonna be like, don't
let this guy shoot. You can't let this guy get
threes off. Um, do everything you can to get him

(21:10):
off the line. And it's my job to counter that.
And so UM J J was really good at putting
the ball in the deck. Joe Harris has gotten really
sneaky good at that too. UM. Even guy, even a
guy like Clay Thompson, you know, to the extreme level,
UM can get downhill and finish at the rim or
shoot floaters or fifteen footers. So, UM, that's kind of
the the trajectory that I'm going and I'm heading for

(21:32):
UM and I want to continue the way I'm playing
this year for sure. What what what would you say
has been? Um the biggest thing you've either had to
change your ad from year one to year two just
because you have done so well. Yeah, it's arc on
the shot. Um to get super technical and nerdy. Um.
When I miss I missed short and that's because of
that's a product of a flat shot. So when I'm

(21:55):
on and I'm cooking that I got some good arc
on my ball, and when things are off a little bit,
it's a little flat and so kind of really focusing
in practice and when I get my work in in
between games on UM, having the appropriate amount of arc
really makes that hoop seemed bigger than me when I'm
shooting it. How much do you emphasize your hand placement

(22:16):
on the ball. I obviously was. I'm not the NBA
player you are the college player Drew was, But I
the one thing I was good at was shooting the ball,
and I always emphasized to like the kids that I
coach now, hand placement and just having that kind of
ninety degree angle underneath the basketball, Like, and you mentioned
getting arc on your shot, and I mean it ain't

(22:37):
nerdy shipped to me, Like, so that's why I'm gonna
ask you. But just like do you emphasize that a
lot with the arc or does that part of it
not matter? Like what mechanics are you still adjusting to
if any, but like that in particular with the hand placement,
like is that an emphasis for you at all? Totally?
Like it's funny you bring that up. Like They're a
couple of games ago. I mentioned to one of our

(22:59):
player development guys, I'm like, I'm not catching it right,
Like something about the way the ball feels in my
hands as I'm going up doesn't feel right, you know,
And I was kind of missing more shots than I
normally do. And we really like zoomed in and like
watch some film over the shots that I was, you know,
shooting over those couple of games, and like, sure enough,
instead of you know, that ninety degree angle underneath the ball,

(23:20):
I was here and you have to change the angle
as you go and then you got to shoot it,
which leads to a bunch of inconsistencies. And sure enough,
Mrs So Um, it's funny you brought that up, Like
that's something that we looked at and we identified and
sure enough, the next day, Um, you know, on my
own getting some work in like ship was cash. Um
just because I you know, refocused and re emphasized, um,

(23:43):
getting my hand back and underneath the ball. God, I
love that. I love the nerdy ship man. Love. That's
great stuff. I'm gonna add that to my game so
I can break your three point record this year. Yeah,
good luck. But what is it like playing with a
guy like a mega star like Bradley Beale, Like, especially
in your first year, Like, what are the challenges of

(24:06):
playing with someone like that? But also you do get
way more open shots because you play with someone like him. Yeah,
the challenge it's it's like I was blown away. Um
as to how much Brad, how how well Brad thinks
the game, Um, you know, he obviously can score the
ball with anybody in the NBA, but he just thinks

(24:27):
the game at a different level. Like he sees stuff.
He is the commander of our offense. He knows exactly
where people need to be and for the most part,
like makes the right play the vast majority of the time.
Which more often than not is him shooting it because
he's such a good score. But when he's when it's
not his time to shoot, he makes the right play.
And that's the mark of a true, you know, basketball

(24:48):
savant superstar like Brad. I would think the challenge I
with playing with somebody like him, just because he demands
such a volume of shots because he is that good
is there's a lot of time, a lot of minutes
in between when I get to shoot the ball. Um.
You know, sometimes it's a little bit shorter, sometimes it's
a little bit longer. But you kind of have to

(25:08):
create your own rhythm as a shooter. And know, I
know that you know that that's that can be really
hard to do sometimes. You know, if you go up
and down the floor a few times, you don't touch it, Um,
you feel like you're doing cardio a little bit, and
then you're called upon to shoot the ball. Like that's
a huge skill in the NBA, and it's something that
I've had to work on. Yeah, yeah, you gotta be
just dialed in the whole game. I mean, like that's

(25:29):
what the great shooters have to do. But what's something
that maybe like you've picked up on from Brad playing
with him like as a like from a leader standpoint,
just something he kind of passes down to you to
the team, um or just one main lesson You think that,
like you've really absorbed from him being around him now
a year and a half. Yeah, I think, I think like,

(25:51):
I mean, you gotta Like for me, it's you gotta.
He shows us as you gotta play to your strength,
and for him it's mid range game. He gets the
basket and he knows that my strength is shooting the ball.
So no matter what, no matter how the games going,
no matter if I'm you know, five for five or
over five, like that's six shot, better go up. And
he instills that confidence to me no matter how I'm playing,

(26:14):
if he swings it to me and I'm open or
even barely open, like that ball has got to be
up and um, you know over forty eight yeah, forty
eight minutes in the NBA, like you're more often not
going to play to your averages, and that turns out
pretty good for a guy like me, you know, shooting
from behind the ark. Hell, yes, it does absolutely. What

(26:36):
would you say was your welcome to the league moment?
You know, guys always talk about that. I'm curious. I
haven't asked you about that ever. Yeah. Um, has someone
dunked in your fucking face or across you so bad
that you're like sorry, I don't mean to be I'm
not disrespecting you. I'm just saying, like, have you had
have you had the moment? Yeah, everybody's had the moment.

(26:56):
Everybody's at the moment, and I think mine came. Um
later on, about halfway through the season, we were playing
in Memphis and uh, we're getting smoked. We were on
the way to getting smoked that game and they got
they got a break, came down the floor. Um, Jaren

(27:17):
Jackson had it, threw a lob to John Moran. He
caught it. John Rand's like, I mean, he's like six one,
he's not really that tall. Can jump. He can jump, man.
You y'all have seen it. He jumped, caught it, windmilled it,
dunked it, and the place went ape ship. Um. And
that was actually, Um, that was the play last year.

(27:37):
I don't know if you guys are tracking with our season,
but like on that play, Brad got hurt and was
out for the rest of the year with his injury,
and so not only did I witness probably the greatest
allue I've ever seen, But like now it's core you
gotta get in the game, and you gotta play now,
and it's you gotta play the rest of the season.
So um, I was introduced to playing a lot of
minutes in the NBA that way. Yeah, because you're sitting

(28:00):
there watching that, like, I mean, just like anybody else
as a fan, like what the fuck, and you're trying
not to react, Like you know, you've seen those videos
of the dudes on the bench like kind of freaking
out a little bit, like they're like, oh no, no no, no,
like that's on our team. Like that's kind of what
I felt like. I don't know if I really reacted
on the outside, That's what I felt like. And then

(28:21):
all of a sudden, it's like Corey, like take off
your warm up and get in there. Yeah. What you mentioned,
like just you know, being on the same court as
a guy like John Ranton, things like that, is he
or who would you say is the hardest player you've
had to guard thus far, even if it was just
for one possession, But maybe if you have someone that
you like really had to stick with for a few possessions,

(28:43):
or a whole game was your assignment, like just the
toughest game you've had defensively. I mean, I don't I'm
not at the point in my career where I'm getting
matched up on the team of the teams like best players.
You know. I'm not seeing like guys like Katie and
Kyrie and um, you know, Lebron and all those guys
every single night. But I've had a couple of long

(29:03):
stretch is guarding Jordan Clarkson in Utah. And not only
he's super shifty, he's super fast and he'll shoot anything,
so like you have to be on a hype, like
high alert all the time and you're running around and
he's doing crazy ship with the ball, like trying to
break you down and stuff, and like I've actually, I

(29:24):
think I've done a pretty good job on him. But
it's a full time job guarding Jordan Clarkson. Yeah. I
can see why that would be, because he's like when
he's hot, he's hot and he'll make Yeah. Um, you
mentioned something about NBA or a player development coach, and
I have to ask, was it Joe g K Because
I know Joe, I know Joe. I gotta give joep

(29:46):
my man's Joe. Shout out. He used to be my
teammate my first year of college. Yeah, man, I gotta
shout out Joe as well. It was not Joe, but
I work with Joe every day. Um, he's He's one
of the guys that I work out with pre game.
I love Joe. He's I mean, he's like you'll you'll
know you know, No, he's constant energy, Like he's so
good for He's so good for an NBA sideline with

(30:06):
how many games we play and how many days feel
the same, Like Joe is money because you get the
same guy every day. He ain't ever a different dude,
like and it's just positivities energy. I miss being around
him because of that. But I had to bring up
my man because I know that you're definitely around him
every day, probably working out with him, So shouts to him. Um.

(30:27):
I got one last question for you before we go
to break. Have you had a big or any sort
of insecurity that I stood out to you when you
entered the league that you maybe had to get over again,
A little bit in debt, a little vulnerable with you,
just curious because you're young guy. I mean, when I
was looking up how old you were. I'm like, I'm
older than this motherfucker. Like, and I still got insecurities.
Ain't no way you're in the n b A and

(30:47):
you ain't insecure about something like are we talking on
the floor? Off the floor? Here on the floor, give
us both floor, We're gonna go really, We're gonna go
really really vulnerable here. Um, let's hear it on the floor.
I think the biggest insecurity would be, like, I'm still
getting used to the fact that I truly belong here,

(31:08):
Like this is what I've dreamed about my whole life,
this is where I've strived. I've strived to be my
whole entire life, my whole entire playing career, and now
I'm here, and like, I gotta make the most of it.
And it's hard when you are playing so many games
and things go up and down, like your emotions go
with it, And so when you've had a couple of
bad ones in a row, you start to look around
and be like, man, I really, like, am I really

(31:30):
that guy? Am I still like supposed to be here? Um?
That's been a hard battle for me. Um, staying with
it and staying mentally focused and like knowing and trusting
that like, yeah, I'm good enough to be here and
have a super long career and be super successful. And
then off the floor, she's, Um, we got so many

(31:54):
different guys in our locker room from so many different
places and cultures and um, you know, come from different
backgrounds and stuff Like I I've always tried to be
the guy who kind of fits in with everybody, and
that's resulted in me now always being like who I
am a hundred percent. So if I'm winning in this crowd,
I'll try to be more catering to them, or from
this crowd, I'll cater more to them. So it's it's

(32:16):
been a battle for me to kind of find my
voice in the NBA locker room and like be who
I am a hundred percent of a time, like no
matter you know who cares. I knew you'd give a
great answer. That's why I asked the question. There was
a great answer. It was honest, it was it's just
everything that a listener probably was like, you know what,
I've never heard an NBA player talk like that. Now
they have, Now they have shout out court. I'm an

(32:37):
open book man. That's the kiss man. Um alright, fellas,
we're gonna take a quick break here when we come back, though,
a lot of reminiscing coming up as these two former
Gonzaga teammates gonna reminisce a little bit, maybe even a
little bit about that championship run. Maybe we'll shed some
tears together because they lost. I don't know that was

(32:58):
me and I'm sorry, guys, but stay with us. We'll
be right back, all right, And we're back on so eight.
They give me Timmy podcast with Drew, Timmy and myself
Noah Buano here with our guests Corey kiss Bert Drew
take us away real quick before we dive into it again. Guys,
leave a star, write a comment, interact with the podcast,
buy it, burn it something if you want some for

(33:19):
the new year. We don't solid copies. You can't burn it,
all right. I guess that's fair, all right, I want
to right away. I don't want to be negative, but Corey,
one negative side or one negative memory of Drew Timmy
playing with him? What one one thing that just piste
you off? One? There's probably give him give a couple

(33:40):
of ranking. I was super when I when I like
stepped on the floor in college I was super straight laced,
like I was like business time, Like let's go time,
let's kick the other team's ass um, Like let's take
this really seriously, and like that's not the way that
Drew operates. Like Drew is at his best when he's
doing his little mustache ship and he's he's like talking

(34:04):
to the other team and he's like playing to the crowd.
And so like I me, Mr Business was always piste
off at Drew because I thought he was doing all
that extra stuff and like not being locked in. But
like that's the way he plays, and that's the way
he's like always been at his best. And it took
me a long time to like come around of that
um and now I appreciate it, especially watching him from

(34:26):
my couch. Now that's great because like he just Mr.
Jokey and like you'll, I mean, if you're the serious guy,
probably was pissing you off, like what I mean, And
I loved I loved it in the locker room, like Drew,
Drew was my guy in locker room. He helped. He helped,
Like everything I helped, our mood helped her, like you know,

(34:47):
cracking jokes, being the being the jokes or whatever, But
like when we stopped on the floor, like I was
business and he stayed the same and I expected him
to come with me on that you know, and he didn't.
And it works, I will say, Like especially like my
first year when I was like when Tillie went down,
I was really starting to play. I could tell like
there was always something like I'm like, am I having
too much fun? Am I not having? Like? Am I

(35:09):
too serious? Like I remember trying to find that balance,
especially as a young because I mean, like you are
Mr Gonzag, like you're the leader of the ship, and
I was like, oh, ship, Like what do I do?
And then like I finally I think it was like
it might have been like a week after the San
fran game. I feel like I finally like kind of
like proved myself. You're like just keep just do whatever
you just did, like it worked, like do it And

(35:31):
that was like the first time I was like, all right,
we're good, Like yeah, we got Corey, all right, We're good. Yeah,
Corey undid his tie a little bit. It was still there,
but he did a little bit top the top button.
You went undone. I just undid that little top button. Yeah,
a little business casual Corey. Yeah, yeah, Corey, what is
your perspective, Like you're a junior, Timmy comes in as

(35:52):
a freshman, Like, did you know he was gonna be
as good as he is? Did you kind of like
were you able to like kind of help him, just
like show him the ropes a little bit for him
to have that dominant saw more season your senior year,
you know, thirty two and oh, like did you kind
of know he was gonna have that big of an
impact with you guys right away? Oh? For sure, for sure.
I mean like we had such a good like I mean,

(36:15):
Killiam was so good his freshman year, my junior he
was so good, and um, you know he he could
he could shoot, he could pass, he could dribble, you
can make plays, you can can jump, he could run,
you can do a lot of stuff. But like Drew
was like always kind of working in the background, and
you could see flashes of it in practice, you know, um,
making plays, bring the ball on the bringing the ball

(36:35):
on the break, making passes like Drew does, and um,
you saw flashes of it. And then, like Drew said
in that San Fran game, when kill got hurt, um,
like it was just time to kind of let the
dog out of the cage and like, you know, you
just know that, like if you're if you're the main
big at Gonzaga, like you're gonna eat. And Drew was
the perfect person for that. With his post up game

(36:56):
and how he brought the ball up the floor. It
was a perfect fit. Um. And he was always looking
for me to shoot threes too. He was always passing
the ball to me, so that you know, of course
I love playing with him. I gotta find my shooter, man,
come on, man, Um, Alright, I mentioned a negative side,
So let's get your best memory of him on the court.
Off the court doesn't matter. Just maybe not off the court. Yeah,

(37:20):
maybe we'll talk about that off the record, but yeah,
on the court, best memory. God, while you think about that,
Drew's probably got some great off court memories. I will say,
while you think about that, I got my favorite more
memory of Corey. Oh perfect. We're in my state, great
state of Texas. We're playing Virginia and I have never

(37:42):
and I repeat, never seen Corey so locked in and
emotional in my life before the game. You know, usually
we're kind of like we're kind of doing our link stuff.
Shame we're talking a little bit in this dude, Corey
just comes in, all right, guys, fuck this team. This dude,
Like I'm not like this is it? Like they screwed

(38:03):
me over, Like I've been waiting for this one. Like
Corey was so like excited and like so locked in
for this game that like it was like one of
those things you're like, you don't you don't see it
from him as much like it probably gets old seen
it from me because I'm like that a lot, but
like seeing it from Corey and then just the game
he had and what he was able to kind of
stick it to Virginia. It's just like that was like
my favorite Encore moment ever. Corey, just how like passionate

(38:27):
and excited you were for that game. I mean, for
those that for those that don't know, Like I got
recruited by Virginia um with Gonzaga, like they were the
top two teams, and Tony Bennett like brought me into
his office on my visit and was super like noncommittal,
like we need to see more film on you. We
don't know if you can play at the A C
C level, Like we're just not sure yet. We have

(38:48):
with one other guy that we're trying to offer and
and it's you and him, we don't know. And then
I went to Gonzaga and coach was like, listen, you're
my guy. Like you're gonna be a four year guy here,
three or four year guy your Mr zag you fit
everything perfectly. We love you here, we want to build
around you. And like that was it. Like that was
the moment where I was like, Okay, I'm going to Gonzaga.
And so I just knew as a matter of the

(39:10):
time before we ended up playing Virginia and like Drew said,
like I was locked in by the time we got
off the bus. Um, Yeah, And I had the best
game in my college career, like by far, nine threes
thirty two points. I did a little bit of my
research before because I read I was like, oh, this
guy got snubbed by Virginia. Oh and then he had
the chance to piss on him and he did. So

(39:31):
you don't not a lot of players get moments like that.
But the testament to you that like this kind of
goes into like just how you know or what kind
of solidifies good players as great players is like when
you can just purposely lock in for a game like
that and be like, yeah, tonight's tonight Like I was.
We were just talking about this in the first segment
with Drew, like I've been honest, asked to go get
thirty in ten and I was like, I think that

(39:52):
if you really just like full forty minutes, just tried
to like you could easily get it. And he went
and got thirty in ten because like he just you know,
they lock you got you you good players lock in
on something like that, and it just becomes this like, yeah,
well it ain't that hard because I have the skill,
I have the preparation, and then you go out and
do it and it's it looks like it was supposed
to happen. You know, it wasn't on accident. Absolutely. I

(40:14):
couldn't agree more get and more often Drew the only
one that did. You did you think of your best
Drew Timmy on court memory or not? Yeah, Well, I
mean mine's Drew, thank you for painting that beautiful picture,
but mine's a little bit more general. Um. When Drew
brought out the sweaty, grimy cotton headband for the first time,

(40:41):
that warmed my heart. That was so inspirational, true, Like
I was like, my god, I got a brother, Like
we're both be wearing headbands to sick and then like
after every play, no matter if you've got an A
one or if I got A three, or if A
running the break or whatever, it was always this, always this,
and um yeah, it was awesome to like be on
the floor with another headband guy, especially like especially Drew,

(41:02):
Like we were gonna play it up to the max,
and we did. It was so fun. It's quite the duo. Man,
I don't I don't think he can never be top
just Pete do on this with the headbands and everything.
It was. It was awesome. And Corey is a guy
who appreciates sweat equity, knows something that you were learning about.
I was hoping you'd bring this up. I was hoping

(41:22):
you'd bring it up Corey. On a previous episode, Drew
and I got into it a little bit about his
dirty ass headband that he's talking about. He's had since
his senior year of high school. So all I was
advocating for was like, hey man, maybe like you throw
that out. It's four and a half or at this point, yeah,
four four five years old, Like, but I don't I
think I'm gonna be outnumbered here and you're gonna probably

(41:45):
side with him on the sweat equity. Keep it for
five years, too many buckets on it type of thing,
that thing until it rips, bro I don't care. Ipect it. Corey.
Talk to us about your senior year, your average A
team points, your WCC Player of the Year, and you
as your thirty two and oh and it looks like

(42:05):
you're about to have the best finish to a college
career ever. And I was being a dick before we
went to break, but I truly do look back on
that and like just feel bad for you guys, because
same thing with thirty eight and one Kentucky. You know,
like they couldn't get it done. Um so just like
your career ending like that. But just talking about that
whole season for all our Gonzaga fans that are listening,

(42:28):
and you know just what it meant to you to
even have am like you know, b thirty two and
oh have that Final four historic win with the buzzer
beater and you know, unfortunately not win, but just like
that being your last year, Like do you reflect on
it pretty often because it's so recent, Like just to
break that down for for listening. Yeah, I mean I
reflect on that year all the time, especially now being

(42:49):
in the league where everything is so like business like
and professional that like everybody in the everybody in the
in an NBA locker room like talks about their college
years because um, things change age when you come to
the league. They just do. And um, Drew, you can
chime in whenever you want. But like we were, we

(43:12):
basically just it was the COVID year. Basically we're testing,
you know, three or four times a week. Um couldn't
really like go and do anything and risk like we
had to shut the shut the you know, pause all
team activities for ten days. And um there was kind
of this huge made a bubble tournament and a Bubble
um Conference tournament and all this. There's a lot of

(43:32):
stuff going on, and we were around each other crazy
stuff and we were on each other all the time.
Like I mean, it was basketball and then like my
housemates that I lived with and then that was it. Um.
But what I'll say about that season, you know basketball side,
like the group and the team was just like so
fun to be around, Like we all got along, we

(43:55):
all hung out together. Um when when and yes, we
had to practice and yes we had to travel and
do all this like shitty stuff, but like being with
that group made it so much better. And like the
fact that we spent all this time together because of
COVID only made this team stronger because we were so
close as a unit. And um, you know, think of

(44:16):
talk to bottom, like I mean, Jalen Drew, Joel Um
Andrew came on late, Anton was huge, Aaron Cook like
all those, all those guys contributed to us winning. And
the reason why we were able to string together thirty
two in a row was with a season like that
is because we're so tight. And that's what I remember
most about that season. And yes we lost and yes

(44:38):
became up short, but um, this is such a special
group of individuals that all came together and we played
lights out for the vast majority of the year. Yeah,
I mean I remember, Like obviously was said that we lost,
but like the saddest thing about that we was like,
we're never gonna play again. Like this team, like all
we did, I mean we in the bubble. We literally

(45:00):
spent every day together like we're always playing FIFA some
something and smash bros. Yeah, Corey tried to teach us
Katan wasn't was pushing back on that one a little bit,
but like I want to smoke in Katan, Cory, I
played three games a day. Like literally the only time
probably Cory and I didn't spend time together was when
I had mandatory academic tutoring in our conference room in

(45:23):
the bubble. Literally like Corey, Corey was on top of
his academics and um I was not. But I mean
like literally, like every everything you could think of we
probably did as a team, like movies, UFC nights, Like
it was awesome, and like just not having that again
was definitely like the saddest part because like while each
team again zaga special and like it's fun and all

(45:44):
the guys are great, like that team just there was
something different about that team, I would say, compared to
like the other teams that I've been on, and even
like this one, like the team was just so special.
It's like we'll never play on a team like that again.
I feel like it's probably what makes like going thirty
two and Oh more like like why you guys went
thirty two and Oh, because like those two teams and Corey,
you probably have some good perspective on like how much

(46:08):
those team dynamics from that thirty too and other team
are different from right now with your Wizards team with
you know, guys got kids, they got families, they got wives.
Like it ain't really like just sit down, let's hang
out all day kind of thing, you know, like you
tell us, I don't. I'm assuming it's like that, But
like the Dynamics, probably you're right, Like it's it's guys

(46:30):
have their own clicks in their own groups and like
their own people that they've got to take care of.
And sometimes it's family or the boys from back home,
or they're living with a group of people or whatever.
But like you come together, you work out, play the game,
and then you go and then like you know, you
occasionally like go out together or you'll get dinners together
or whatever. But it's nowhere near the same as college.
Like if you're a guy who enjoys being social and

(46:53):
enjoys being like around your teammates, like you got to
really find a special place in the NBA special locker
room for that to be the case. Um, And that
was a huge adjustment for sure, one of the biggest
ones I've had to make coming to the league. It's
no knock on, like your teammates with the Wizards. It's
just it's every it's every team dynamic is different. But
would you say, like it's more like that with the

(47:14):
Wizards team where this Wizards team that you're on where
it's like a little bit you know, when you're not
on the court, it's kind of divided like that. I mean,
I wouldn't say divided because that's a bad word, but yeah, yeah,
but I mean, like it's very much it's very much
like the time that we're together is for the most part,
the time that we're together. Like, while we're together, our

(47:35):
locker room is great, like we like everybody likes each other,
but it gets along. There's no like b for anything, um,
no passive aggressiveness between players and stuff like that. So
that's all good. But like it's just like I mean,
if you were working at nine to five and you're
going to corporate America, like very rarely do people hang
out all the time with their work friends. Like you
got your work friends and you've got your nonwork friends,

(47:57):
and that's just what it is in the NBA A
lot of times. Very important question for you, do you
still get your hooks up early? In the morning. Drew,
I was up this morning at four thirty five right
hand hooks, five hundred left hand hooks, and I hit
and I hit a hundred push ups in between. Yeah,
I was, I was getting the hooks. Wow, that's music

(48:21):
to my ears. Man. I'm I'm one of the lone
hook guys left here that just gets him in every morning. Seven.
We're actually getting up at four thirty. Oh yeah, oh yeah,
you can speak for yourself. That was an absolute joke
on Land. No. No, I mean I I I am
kind of an early bird, Like I enjoy getting up

(48:42):
early in the morning, but like they's just with the
schedule and the games and how late we play and travel,
there's just no way. Yeah, I know, Drew ain't getting
up that early either. So now that's kind of been
our just running thing, you know. Yeah, like court, you
know when Corey gets in the post and hits this
little hooks and I'm like, oh, this dude was in
here because one of our assistant coaches just that's the workout.

(49:05):
When you're a freshman big you get your hooks in
and that is it. Shoulder shrugs, hooks, throw them in
perfect form, flicked the risks, So uh, catch the roles,
they move hook shot. That's all it is. It's a
little banter, you know, Um what do you what would
you say? Like you and Drew obviously aren't around each

(49:26):
other every day, but you know, like those feelings of
like you're with each other on a consistent basis for
two years and you're like, man, this guy's my best
friend or however, you know, you guys are great friends.
Like and you leave and you go to Washington, he's
still in spoken. It's like this not just applied to Drew,
that could be applied to any of your teammates two
different Washington's. Man, that's pretty crazy. But I feel this

(49:47):
way a lot of times with some of my former teammates.
Is like you're really tight in the moment and then
like you you know, you have to go your separate ways,
and there's like that level of maintaining your friendship. But
like you ain't ever gonna be on the same day
to day track as Drew or Drew as you Corey,
like you know, I mean, so it's like you probably
have so many connections and friends now that it's like

(50:07):
you can't keep up with everybody. Yeah, that's a really
good point. Um, And there's just different ways to do it. Man,
Like instead of just playing video games with Withdrew every
single day, it's like, you know, checking in on TikTok
or d m and or Instagram or whatever, like he
has a big game, I'll shoot him a text or
like stuff like that. It just changes the interactions and
the relationships change. And especially with my job now where

(50:31):
i could be in d C for however long and
then all of the like the snap of a finger,
I'm in a different city playing for a different team,
Like I'm just packing and moving, and um, it does
help to be able to travel so much and have
connections in different cities. And there's so many NBA teams
in different cities that you can you know, touch some
former teammates as you go around. But yeah, you're exactly right, No,
Like it's tough. It's hard. It's hard to kind of

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go in from that college environment where everyone's being so close,
like I I talked about earlier to you know, having
to maintain communication with somebody over a phone. But it's tough.
Like I would say, it's great, like we're like tick
talking dem each other, like just you know, texting each
other whatever, like but it's not all the time then
like we get like on a podcast and it's like damn,

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like we're just catching up like we would in college
or like you know, we saw we were able to
see Corey play was that last year in Phoenix, Like
that was super cool. Like it's like little things like
when you meet up, it's like time just stops in
that moment, like you're back to where you were. So
like that's the cool thing just about like the relationships,
I would say, especially with Koy because like we do
keep in touch a lot stiff like relatively speaking, Yeah,

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and like that's that's a cool thing too. Is like
there's just certain relationships where like no matter how much
time is spent in between the times where you do
talk and catch up, like it just picks up right
where it left off. You know, there's just no there's
just no like kind of awkward small talking like whatever.
And and like there's a certain there's a certain group
of friends and that you have and you make along
the way that that's just the case and those are

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the ones you really want to maintain. You know, Man,
do I hate that awkward small talk? They you it's
like there's no way to dodge that. You know, Um, Corey,
you still watching zag games? You keep it up paying attention. Yeah, well,
I mean it's tough to catch the ones where you're
playing alcorn State or North Alabama and they're broadcasting it
on Roots Sports, Like I can't catch those. But I've

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seen all of the like big games. Um, I've watched
all the big games for sure. Drew is down on you.
He was like, uh, let's just do the first. We're
not going to preview the games with him. He ain't.
He ain't watching the games like he's in the Montana game.
That was a Root Sport game. I know. I know,
my friend Noah, what does roots Sports? Well, I don't
even know what that is. The games are aired on
like stadium dot com. I thought it's like fruit sports

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is like the local like news broadcasting for like the
the channel you'd watch if you were in Montana or
Idaho or Washington, like that's where the game would be broadcast. Well,
I'll tell you this, I'm never going to Idaho or Montana,
so there's nothing there for me unless you guys. Are
you guys interested in those cities? That's where it's where

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we team bonding on the coaches Lake House. Man, It's
it's quite. It's quite time Corey last interaction with Mark
few go uh he texted me, Oh when did he
texted me? I think I had a big home game. Yeah.
I had a big game against the heat Um earlier

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this season at home and he shot me at tack.
She's like looking good Corey, like he have the good
work or you know, like and way to get to
your two ft stop man, Yeah, it gets your money,
shoot it to make it go. Yeah, that was the
last time. Was that his Is that his go to?
He's got so many just get he is the best

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impressionist of him too. And he brought it out right away. Yeah,
well you have to. I can't talk about coach just
automatically tried to bake him a little bit, but I
knew it was coming. He called me. This scars me
to this day. He called me. The first two years
of my career, Drew wasn't there, wasn't around to hear this.
He called me the dumbest smart guy he knows, because
I would do a bunch of dumb ship on the

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floor like I would, you know fast. Somebody at the
one and one and they go down to shoot free
throws or whatever. I wouldn't I take a shot that
I shouldn't be, Cory. You're a four point oh student,
like you're and doing this dumb crazy stuff on the floor. Man,
you're the dumbest smart guy I know, And that would

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bother me so bad. Oh my god, that was better
than my nickname, which was dumbass for my first year.
I mean, I would rather be called that, I guess.
But yeah, beggars can't be choosers. The mental I mean,
I don't want to call it mental abuse, but there's
a level of like, dude, can you fucking stop? Man? Like, Yeah,

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I like, I really have grown an appreciation for coach
for you as I've gotten older, right Like, he coached
me really hard when I was young, gave me the
keys when I was older, and now leaving like, I've
got a really good appreciation for him. But man, his
coaching style sometimes he's just always got little something to say,
and he's always barking at your heels and drew his

(55:16):
big deep breath, lets you know that he knows what
I'm talking about. That it's just it's just something about
it gets under your skin. Really he doesn't cuss you out.
I literally said, it's all time. I wouldn't much rather
him just literally get in my face and cush me
out than what he does. It's he's little like annoying
ass comments like my four year old can do that.
I'm sixty and I can still show and make a

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pass cut Like it's like that ship hurts so much
more than him, just like lighting you up. It's it's
he has a certain thing about him where just it
cuts so deep. My dog Stella could play better deep
than you. Nothink. Laurence did like an old an old guy,
older guy like just shipping on like a young high

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level athlete and being like I could cut harder than
that motherfucker. Know you want um, we'll kind of wrap
it up here, But what is you know in your
NBA career? We kind of touched on, like who the
player you kind of you know are hoping to be
or working to be? Um, But do you have any
like you know, I know NBA players are very like
reserved when when people ask them about their goals, but like,

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is there a is a there a clear vision you have,
like whether it's the amount of years you want to
play or you know a couple of accomplishments you want
to have, like just throughout the duration of your NBA
career that you know sit in your mind early on. Absolutely, Um,
the mark, the benchmark is ten years. I want to
play in the league least ten years, um, for a

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number of different reasons. Um, that's I mean, getting a
double digits is cool. There's some monetary benefit to that
as well. Yeah, a little bit. And then uh, desinally
that's that ten years longevity wise, Um, I want to
win a three point contest and easy. Um. And then

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I want to I want to be fifty at least
once in my career for a season. I think you
got that two or three times in you. I think
so that this year, this year it's been the I'm
a little down in in a field goal percentage, I think,
and it's been the figure is your free throws? A little?
Free throws are killing? I think my research says the

(57:27):
free throws I'll recently yeah, yeah, I was looking at
this earlier. I think it's I think you're forty nine
forty and there's no way like no, I mean, I
went three for three today, so I'm chilling there, so
I had to go out break. I think when I
looked at it, you weren't. I don't have a lot

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of sounds. So like me right now about free throws.
I went three for three today. It has to go
up a little bit. We'll see Drew. People hack you,
people don't hack me. So I got, I got, like,
you know, two free throws here and then a free
throw here, and then three more here. So I gotta
really like lock in. Um, So I think I'm a
probably what seventy eight? Now, maybe I might cutch you

(58:13):
here if I go, like over the next couple of games. Yeah,
I've watched games. Yeah, better than that. You're better than that, man,
I know that, and I know that. I thinkfully we've
got fifty more games left to play, which is yeah,
I see that going up into the high eighties. You
see mine going up to the seventies, high seventies. And

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now we've been talking about your free throw percentage for
fifteen games. Now, what are you? You're still in the sixties?
All right. Corey brought up the point where he has
to lock in because he shoots so few, and I
think Corey can testify to this. I'm a very like
spacey guy, and like, you know, when practice goes on
a little too long, I started looking or just talking
being a jackass, you know. And like at the free

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throw line, I shoot so many sometimes it's hard for
me to keep that mental edge, you know, So like
I guess it's a double edged sword in that regard
if if we want to look at it that way,
we don't have to. But it's just a bro. They're
three points, man, there's nobody guarding you. There's no time
I mean, there's a little bit of a time limit,
but you can take as long as you want. You're
just three points, man. I'm gonna make you look better,
that's all it is. Oh wow, that's up. I didn't

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want to say. Yeah, I didn't want to say it
on the record, but we're talking about free throw percentage.
So I mean, hey, you're you're shooting sixties. I said
this in the beginning of shooting sixty from the field.
It's mesmerizing that your field goal percentage could be higher
than your free throw percentage. But listen, buddy, I still
got belief in you. I do. That's all that I

(59:40):
care about. Let's get to let's let's make it like
seventy one. The D grade in the classroom. It's a
D grade. You're not failing SS get degrees, man, we
can we can shoot for that. That's true. Is academic
model for sure. That's supposed to be off record, but

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through anything else. For for the former teammate before we
slide off episode episode eight, I guess I would just say, uh,
so the people know, I'm just appreciative for just how
you lead yourself and carried yourself because I've kind of
taken on your role. You know, you could look at
as a headband passed down to me, but just your

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leadership and how you cared yourself and how you worked
every single day. That's something that I've really really grown
into and matured a bit, if you can believe it
with the maturity, but you know, just taking that leadership
and just kind of growing in that regard. I owe
a lot of that to you and just how you
carried yourself and lead this team. And UH as always
man grateful to have you on the podcast, always catch

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up with you, and uh I can't thank you enough
for all you've done for me and the program. Of course, man,
pleasure was mine playing with you and sharing a court
with you and anytime you want me to have I
want me to be back on the pod Man like
it's been fun. I would love to love to come back.
You're more than welcome, man. We'd have a consistent, consistent
NBA guest onward at home. Granted, Jalen sugs are too

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cool for us, but that you didn't hear that. Yeah,
we all know that we got those. Those guys are
big time. You know. I'm just a normal guy with
a jumper, That's all I am. I'm glad to have
you on. You're more than welcome anytime. Um, But yeah,
I appreciate you coming on. Man. This was dope. I
hope everybody enjoyed. That's a rap for episode eight. We
will see you guys next week. Peace. This has been

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a presentation of the College Athletes Network.