December 1, 2020 • 61 mins
It's a showboatin' celebration of the athletes who play with their own style; the ones with so much panache that even their adversaries have to stand back to watch in awe at times! On this week's episode of The Greatest, Megan and C.J. welcome Curt Neill (Writer/Director "Derek's Dead") to the show to run through some of the most joyous showboats of all time. https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/dereks-dead/id1537744587
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm when your
hosts c J. Toldano, joined by my wife Gagan Gaily. Hi, Hi,
how you doing. I'm pretty good. How are you doing?
(00:23):
Doing great? Doing great? Post Thanksgiving? I already don't want
to do anything. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. Okay, how
are you feeling? Did you eat well on Thanksgiving? Yes,
I I very well. You saw me and I felt
all levels of sickness. But yeah, I'm happy about what
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we did. I'm happy about what we did to um,
let's bring in our guests so then we can really
get the Thanksgiving talk popping. Um you want to intro? Yeah?
Why not? A very very good friend to both of us,
very very funny comedian writer direct after why we you know?
One of the reasons why we're having him on the
show is because he has a new movie coming out.
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Pre orders are already up. I've heard it's important. It's
called Derek's Dead. Without further ado, welcoming the star, the writer,
the director. Maybe edited it a little bit bit, Kurt
Neil I did edit the whole thing pretty much. Clay
helped a little. That's incredible. Yeah, it could have been bad.
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I don't maybe I edited it bad. I don't. Nobody
said anything yet, so I think I did good. Um, No,
I'm sure you did great. So it's very very funny. Yeah,
I saw there was a I think it was like
the week of our wedding, because Kurt, you came into town. Yeah,
and you did a little premier downtown. It was like
the Monday before the wedding, we did a little friends
and friends and family thing at the Damntown Independent. My
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parents and my brother were there. That was tight, and
a bunch of pell shut up. I just I literally
assumed Megan was just too busy, because she's now that
I hear it, it's like, well, I'm like, what was
I doing? What was I doing? And it's like I
was obviously somewhere just being a bit about the wedding.
Of course you had every reason not to be there. Yeah.
Well I was very hungry that week. Um, And so
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they're they're just were there were in a lot of
activities on my plate. Um, Kurt is joining us from Oregon.
I love Oregon. It's a beautiful stay. I'm in Pleasant Hill, Oregon,
which is right by Eugene, Oregon. I mean that's not
even like that name even. Yeah, that's exactly where I
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grew up. You go south from Eugene, you take fifty
eight high. With fifty eight, you got this little hill
after the gas station. That's literally where Pleasant Hill starts,
where the first driveway on the right. Tell us, tell
us about the kind of trees you're seeing up there.
We got we got a bunch of pine, um and
then we got them all to be perfectly honest, I'm
embarrassed because I can't name more than pine. But we've
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got pine, for sure. But you got big ones, huge
ones in the forest, and we got little ones in
the city with all the leaves, and they turned around
and now they're on the street, and now everybody's blowing
the leaves and that seems like a waste of time,
but everybody's doing it. Um, Well, they blow them into bags, right,
they blow them. But why do you do that? Can't
you just leave them there? Well? I don't know what
they do, honestly, I've seen people do it my whole life.
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Do they burn them? Doday? Is there a special recycling
land for leaves? Real? You can't burn them? But the
only specific times. There's sometimes you can't burn because everything's
too dry. You gotta make sure enough to burn. But
I meant like, does someone in charge burn them? Probably
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just one guy, I think Mr Mr Leaf Incinerator, which
a college. He had to get it. He had to
get a PhD in Ah inflammable. Two things here, just
just I just want to let the audience in on
Kurt Um. Not only you're you're comedian with all that
stuff that we named earlier, but you're also are our
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friend that really really brings out the silliest and everyone
you hang out with me specifically, so this is a
cool compliment. Thanks man, dude. Yeah no, Megan because so
uh we played that quip lash game. Yeah, and again
I don't know if any of this interesting, but Megan
like rolled her eyes when she saw immediately you and
I want to roll my eyes interact. You weren't even
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with me. You weren't even with me. But I'm saying,
oh when I watched you guys, but you're saying you
saw me roll my eyes. That's the appropriate response. But
the thing is people on this thing and me and
are making jokes at each other. Yeah, and they weren't good.
They were I voted for a lot of yours. Her
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was the winning ist. I was second winning in our
in our flip, we be a man in Louis for Tell,
who I have so much respect and admiration for it
has been on Jeopardy is one of the funniest, smartest people.
And you and c J were able to effectively silence
a genius just by being didn't you know? I left?
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I left the zoom feeling guilty that the guy never
got to say anything? Did you know that the guy
get out worded? I've never met him in my wo
Kurt you were you were rost hurt. He has a
famous gift, one of the most famous gifts of all
time on the internet. He's the gift Master, which well
he didn't even he was just on Jeopardy and he
got um uh is that? When do they got like
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the Jeopardy you know, the Daily, the Daily Dopers what
my dad calls it. See, I mean I come from
silly stuff, so he got the Daily Silly and your
family and then he like snaps and and he's just
the best. He's so smart too. And then the apologized
to him once I cut him off, and I said, sorry,
you didn't get that joke in man, that's not like
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cutting roast. But no, it wasn't me personally. And then
what else I was gonna say, we're gonna leave. I'm
gonna lead this back to sports. But the leaves thing, uh,
this is a story from another podcast. Truly, this has
nothing to do with anything except for the leaves fun story. Pasadena,
So hallow, the movie Halloween was filmed in Pasadena, less
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than ten minutes from where we Megan and I sit today,
and this is crazy. So they would carry around one
bag of leaves because it was like filmed during the
summer when there was no leaves, not leaves kind of
anytime anytime, yeah, here in l A. And so one
person would carry around the same bag of leaves where
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they shot, yeah, the leaves, and then they would after
the scene was done, they would then put the leaves
back in the bag, and then they would another location.
And then there was obviously someone like some sort of
set person that was like, if you do lose a leave.
We hear these stories in Hollywood, Like the one that's
coming to mind is like the guy that had to
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hold Russell Crowe's cigarette for him when he was playing
a boxer in something and he like couldn't. So there's
all of these There was a guy and they're gonna
do this, so I won't even say they stole it
for me. They should do like a a MC series
where they interview whoever that like person is that there's
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these Hollywood urban legends about love that almost like a
drunk history thing where like p A's go and tell
their terrible stories. You would be a lot be a
lot of drivers. I'm talking about this. This is a
good idea. Nicky Rooney threatened to murderer guy if his
wife was in the water for five more minutes for
this weird movie I was working on his wife. Him
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and his wife were also in it and it was
all it all had to be night shoots, but there
was also a lot of water stuff, so it was
like coal. And they're both Mickey Rooney, his wife like
Mickey Rooney like eighty. His wife was at least like sixties.
Um who had to be in the water for this thing.
And they were like going beyond when they were supposed
to go, and Mickey and the producer had like the
egg Mickey Rooney to let him keep shooting, and Mickey
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Rooney like was right that, like, hey, she shouldn't be
in the water anymore. But he went too far when
he's like, if anything happens to her, I'll fucking killing you. Wow.
He is he passed? Is he passed? He might be
by now, because I just don't want I don't want
him to come for our podcast. It to somebody. I
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don't know if CJ wants Mikey Rooney. I don't know
if c J wants to brought up, but I'm gonna
accidentally bring it up. Someone last week was like, have
you ever eaten bugs? Was asking me like if I
had ever eaten bugs? And I was like, god, I
think I I feel like I eat a grasshopper or something.
And then and then they were like and then I go, oh, yeah,
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I got high and ate grasshoppers with two NBA legends
and somehow the story. I just was like, I can't
remember if I ate a bug. And then I was like, yeah,
I was with John Sally and Nate Robinson and we
got high while eating bugs together and it left my
brain somehow. Yeah, I love it. It's crazy. I mean, yeah,
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we didn't think a week ago, and I've been excited
for this white since July or whatever. But Megan and
I are very connected to Nate Robins. I don't know
if it's not very connected, but we both met him.
We text every day. Yeah, we've both met him. We've
both met his assistant slash friend same one maybe not
um and we both loved him and he like complimented.
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CJ met him first. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. He did
the House Highlights show and maybe one of my fair guests.
He let a snake in spider and he was before
the show. He took a shirt off him and his
friend uh and played ping pong, like very very competitively,
and like we had to pull him in to be like, hey,
you gotta put on his shirt and do the show
(09:50):
you're here for. And then I'm then like months later, man, Yeah,
I met him maybe six months later, and I was
obviously like nervous. I was wearing these really thick edge
shoes they're called Melissa's and so I was substantially taller
than him, and so I was like chatting with him,
and then I was like, I actually think you've met
my boyfriend I think was my boyfriend at the time,
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and I was like House the Highlights and he goes
Indian and I go Filipino, and he goes, that's right.
But I was like, there isn't the other guy's Indian?
Like he wasn't being like he just was like, I
don't know if it's which one for the Yeah, for
the record, to Nate and I bonded over fashion over clothes.
He really Yeah, I didn't know you were a close guy.
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So we're sad about Nate. We're trying to say, but
he wasnt. Sigh. I don't. I wasn't even close to
the guy, and I was pretty bumped. I don't. Well,
he's a Pacific Northwest guy as well, like he rips.
He was just a cool basketball player in Jake Paul's
trash like, of course everyone was sad for Nate Robinson. Yeah,
I mean, so, can can I ask you? Because I
I've been obsessed over the last couple of days, Like
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I've been doing a deep dive on like what was
going on through Nate's like, and I watched the vlogs
before and you know, truly the magic of editing in sports.
It's like he looked like he was training for real,
but well he's also like so like he must have
just assumed like he's the only athlete between the two,
so he's probably fine. Looks like Jake Paul actually worked
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pretty hard. Well, I guess he was like boxing before.
I don't know the difference between Jake Paul and Logan Paul,
but I know I don't like either one exactly. And
even if you were like, no, this one is better,
I'd be like, Nope, someone made a joke about now
he's just like he's following in his older brother's footstep,
staring at a dead guy or something because younger one
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I thought he was the one that did that. That's
what I thought too, And then I was like, wait,
if that's your role model, you know, like like if
your big brother is the worst piece of ship, you're
not gonna You're either gonna be like incredible or you're
gonna be the next worst piece of ship. Yeah, you
either have the one up or like do something. And
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so Nate from the Greatest and Curt Neil, we are
sending you a speedy recovery. I'm sure he's okay at
this point, but he's still like one. I sent the
video to um Curtain Eyes. Brother. We call it the
brother Ball chat Room up. But there's a video of
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of him at at the j W. Marriott. There was like, um,
this guy who falls boxing video taping and does like
interviews and he recorded Nate coming into the hotel the
j W. And he's like, no, what's up the Nate?
Like Nate was so cool and like he said, hey,
I'm Nate. I know my first ye I'm good at
that j W. This is the j W. Ris Carlton
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is that was called Rich Carlton. There was a Rich
Charles in Indianapolis and I was like, no, it was
Rich Charles. And it's like that's clearly a rip off,
Like yeah, it's tipsy, what did you call it? Cheeter brand,
cheer everything, all these connects. There's a whole season. There's
like a whole plot on Real Housewives in New York
(13:11):
Desperate Housewife. Okay, so you are like, where do you
go to see celebs in l A. I have no idea.
I cannot tell you. But the one place where I
see more celebs in anywhere else, it's the Ritz Carlton
j W. Marriott in l A. Live Meagan, I swear
to God, when I last place, you think they'd be
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like why are you well They're the reason I've seen
people there is for the SPS. That's where everybody stays.
Staples said, well, but then, like anything that's happening at
Staples Center, and then Microsoft Theater is like the Grammys
and Awards. So he he literally in the video he
walks to the elevators, and all I could think of
was when you were in the elevator with DeAndre Jordan's yes,
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and what was the joke he said in there? It's
of the elevator was packed because the SPS had just
ended like five minutes ago, so it was packed maybe
fifteen people in an elevator like craziness, and a guy
like pops up like right as it's closing, and he's like, DeAndre,
can I get twenty bucks? Like a stranger? And then
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the doors closed and it's kind of quiet, and then
DeAndre looks at all us because what the fuck, and
we're all like, yeah, what the funk? That was weird?
And so then and so then people are having laughs,
and then he's getting off the elevator and as the
doors were closing, I go, hey, DeAndre, can I get
twenty dollars? So and then then then the elevator and
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then the elevator laughed at me, and I think he
was probably the only woman on the elevator, Like I
felt like I it was my moment. I wouldn't have
just done that out of nowhere. That's guts even a
goal for in that scenario. That's like, that's a great joke.
But then we saw Jamal Hill in the lobby and
I was so drunk holding my shoes like barefoot, like
you are a hero to me. I mean, you know,
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John white woman celebrating the black woman, saw the what's
the bad? What's Floyd and others crew get money gang
the money. Then they had they have like eight rolls
Royces outside of their ones like or yeah, a double
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decker Rose Royce. Um. Okay, so Kurt, we'll get it
back to you. We just needed to talk about Nate
Robinson a little bit and Leaves. But so this is
a question only specific to you. Are you a good athlete?
It is a total set up. Yeah, yeah, I think
you are. I've heard your good basketball, but yet you
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you are? You are? No. I just love I've always
loved your confidence and just like you're one of my
favorite people to talk about kind of just like high
school uh, sports stories and right, so it was good
as Yeah, what what did you play growing up? And
and catch us up on some of your your kind
of playing career. Sure, thanks that this is a great
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opportunity for me growing up a little like through junior
high it was football, basketball, baseball, the Big three by
the end of eighth grade, and which one were you
the best at? Football? Absolutely? And position did you play
football as a youth? That was just kind of receiver. Um,
as I got into high school and like, I wasn't
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as fast as the other guys. By then, I was
a tight end and I played I played cornerback on defense,
two way starter. But after I quit basketball after eighth
grade because I wasn't good. Um, I hit it. There
was one game in eighth grade. It was I think
that was the first year we had three pointers, and
at one point I got the ball and like no
one was open and I was just desperately looking to
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pass it, and then everybody was just saying shoot it, dude.
I'm like, all right, So I shot a three and
I made it. I got cool, and I go back
on defense. But as I'm going back on defense, I
look over and every single parent in the crowd on
their feet, just losing their minds because Kurt hit a
three pointer. In that moment, as like a twelve or
thirteen year old kid, I was like, alright, basketball is
not for me. That I have a good deal when
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I hit a three man basketball is not for me.
And I didn't feel like I'm the bad in that moment.
I just it's probably in retrospect it was dumb, like
I was. Probably okay, I probably should have kept playing,
but then it was all about football baseball. In high school,
I was really good. Second team All State football, uh
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team MVP, first team All League baseball pitcher. Yeah, okay,
so left handed. I was surprised that you didn't play quarterback.
I get quarterback pipes from me, and you're tall. Yeah.
It didn't transfer for some reason. Even though I was
a pitcher in baseball, I couldn't throw a football very
well and from a very young age, from the second
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I like tried out for football, I was just really
good at going and getting the ball. I had like
exceptionally good hands. Unfortunately for all the other kids. UM.
When I tried out for football in fourth grade for
the first time, I played with the fifth graders. UM now,
I'm were there black people at your school? Oh? I
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just genuinely, I was genuinely curt very just there was one.
There was like one or two at a time. There's
a kid, Drew that was like two years old. I mean,
he was cool. He's a good baseball player. And then
there was Tyrone who was a year younger than he
was a badass football player. But he would like I
would give him rides home and he'd make me like
mixed ds of like rap music. I'd never it was.
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It was, would you guys play schools that had black people?
M m, I can't remember any. No, I don't remember
any other black kids on any of the schools we played.
We were all we were small enough that we were
only playing other small world town of course, but even
the bigger schools outside of Portland's, there's there's not many
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black people. Yeah, we're trying to tell your high school
playing career is infant. I was so good in football especially,
and then like nobody did anything and like at any
level after high school? What were you nearby? Uh? And
was this at the same time as Kevin Love or No.
Kevin Love was a little older than me, and he
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was up in Portland. He went to lick Oswego, which
is the richest hell I know. I mean, I've been
to Lake us we Go. It's like it's not like
a Bond film, like it's so beautiful. It's beautiful, but
it's he's a rich he's a rich kid. His dad's
apparently a prick. But by all accounts he's really cool.
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He seems yeah, he seems like he's he's become very
very cool. I've just heard his dad's an assholes. Yea
perfect sense. Honestly, Lake Oswego rich people are some of
the best I've met, Like I know, very kind, amazingly
lovely people from there. They just also happened to be gazillionaires.
I don't even want to I don't even want to
know if I want to put a letter on it, um,
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but I so I want to say to your your
playing style, just to like sort of segue into the
topic here, because I know i've seen you in and
just kind of your character and I genuinely don't think
you are so Our topic today is greatest show boats,
and I think you you and I maybe do it
you more just as a kind of a joke, but
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I think we also we gravitate towards you know, um
players like this who are very very like show showman. Yeah,
carras that like it's a stage. The playing field in
corn is a stage to that. Yeah, and you put like, yes,
I think we both do it a lot, but we
both put enough silliness on it. But nobody's like piste
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off at us. Like when we're showing off, it's me like,
shoot a shot backwards, make it half the time, but
like it's like and see it as the same thing.
Will do like ten pump fakes three leafty loops and
like the laughing. But he thinks it's good. Yeah, you
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guys are you guys are weird? Al Yankovic of like
pick up ball, but c J thinks he is John
Lennon and Megan like nobody. Megan, you you played, you
have a you have a short playing career. Were you
at any point a show boat at basketball anything? I
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don't know. At tennis, I was like, oh, I was
kind of like a bitch. I would I would fight
with people. But it was also it was like the
other fourteen year old girls and we were so in tennis.
This is what's sucked up they weren't. We didn't have
referees or umpires to fourteen year old girls playing a
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sport from opposite size of the track, you know, based
on the honor system, and there would be bitches that
would lie for sure. It's also really hard to call
a tennis match when you're playing it. So I would hunt,
like you were taught, say are you sure? Very passive
aggressive you, but that's what you're taught. Are you usual?
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And so I would of course be like, are you sure? Okay,
I've I see I see you yeah, And so that
would happen. I once got into it with the sweetest girl,
the sweetest girl who's sweet mom, sweet even sweeter than
her mom, was friends with my sweet mom, and they
were there watching us, and I just like so mean
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and losing and just just ruined my family's name. I'd
love to see it. I wish there was a video.
And like chunky, I was like chubby and mean and
not that good, and I had so much attitude on
the I love it. Those are the people that you
have the post attitude, the people that can't quite bag
it up. I used to do a lot I got
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like especially in football, like with baseball, especially as a picture.
It's about like it's calm, stoked, in control. So I
was all business in baseball, and I was a bad
hitter too, so it was only a pitching anyways. But
with football, I could just get so jacked playing football.
I've never been. There's nothing in my life I've done
since where I'm just like, let's go, like just sucking ready,
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not never before, like a sketch show, dude, I just
can't energy bars moving up. It's like I'm getting stronger
and but like so there's no there's no stopping me.
As soon as I actually do something good, I couldn't
help it. I would like spike the ball and then
have to apologize to the reff And like the first
touchdown I caught in in varsity football, I like jumped
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up and spiked it and screamed and my buddy was
like what are you doing and the reff was like,
come on, man, I'm like I'm sorry. I said it slipped,
and even my friend was still like old slip. Sure, dude.
So everybody's making fun of me, and like I just
showed up. And there's a bunch of other ones that
were bad. There was one time where like I intercepted
a ball and then fell down own and there's a
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clip of it. I'm right in front of the news camera.
I've got it on a VHS. I mean I can't
and I'm right by I'm right by our bench. Like
as soon as I pop up, I like hold the
ball up over my head like I'm showing it to
like the crowd, like I got it. The balls ares
and it's right in front of the bench, and everybody's
like slapping me. But I'm like staring at the crowd,
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like not even paying attention. And then somebody comes up
and lifts me from behind, and I dropped the ball
over my head, just like the most obnoxious ship that
I thought you're going to say, you like stepped into
a Gatorade cooler and fell down. That's what I was
expecting that we got. We gotta get into the topic. Well,
I was gonna say, I was gonna say, people are
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going to be mad at us, but I think any
of the people that liked just us talking have left. Yeah,
we'll take a break and when we come back, we
will be back with the greatest show boat. And we're back.
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We're going to do the topic without fail. Guys. Right
after I say, Kurt. Also, if you haven't seen a
picture of him, don't know who he is. He looks
like he should be in the movie Everybody Wants Some
That's awesome. I needed to say. Okay, so we're doing
the greatest show boat. Did you tell them to kick
it off? Oh? Okay, sorry, I was truly um, there's
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too many screens. You know, it's hard when there's so
many screens. It's hard to say, get out of here screen, Okay,
get this woman a stage, miss stand up? Miss is
so much show my god, i'ms on Zoom shows giving
it my all. Just all. Okay, So, Kurt, since you
are our guest, you uh, you start us off with
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your number three pick. We go in descending order, descending order,
number three pick. Was I supposed to have a top
three ready to go? Yes? Do you see you didn't
tell me that? I thought we said in a text
you said something like you gotta have nine. Okay, okay.
Do you want me to go and then maybe you
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can maybe? Or do you just want to throw a
name out there, someone you like that's a show boat
and then we'll just talk about it. Yeah, let's start.
He's he's not my number one, so we'll start with
him just in case. Um deon deon Sanders the fucking
coolest ever. And what I love about him. You could
compare him to like TiO. Maybe one of you are
going to bring him up like a Terrell Owens. The
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thing with Tarrell Owens. Terrell Owens was more like it
was like mean spirited. When Treill did it, it was
like revenge. It was like there was an extra bit
of like TiO did, but there's an edge. Everything Dion
did was about showman. He was showing off his tiptoe
and he's like smiling, he's dancing, joyful. It was joyful,
playful and joyous and like almost silly, like the stuff
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me and c J were talking about. So there was
something about him. I gravitated to Draft night. He from
the like from the second he started get go and
like even some of his sians annoying, like he did
some ship in baseball, I'm like all right, Like he
drew a dollar symbol in front of the home plate
at Nyankees beating him in like his first bats, and
Carlton Fisk like dott his face like fucking knocked that
off too, and he's like a little kid, you look
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scared as hell. Carlton Fisk like getting his face and
he's like, I'm just sorry, looked really scared. I like it.
I like the have fun. But that's even more that
makes it more likable. So I love Dion and I
like I laughed onto him right away, even as a
young kid whose dad is very much a fan of
the like Harry standers, just hand the ball to the
ref guys, my dad loves that ship. So like I
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still in the mindset of like, oh, but I still
didn't want to be on Jersey once a week through
all of like junior high, Like I'm in my seventh
grade class picture wearing because it was my favorite shirt.
Um soon sure, that's a great one. Yeah it came out. Um.
Someone asked to Marvin Harrison Ones like, why don't you
(28:02):
ever celebrate when you score touchdowns? And he goes, because
that's my job. Um, and every white dad was like,
that's our hero as our hero, and even I was like,
that's his job. But it's like, if I scored a touchdown,
I would rip my clothes off, like I would go,
I would be I would make out with a cheerleader
(28:25):
I would jump in the stands. I would be so thrilled.
That's the one I'm waiting for. Some. I want some.
I want a couple of NFL guys to try to
pretend like their woke and after a touchdown, I want
to see two guys grab each other by the helmet
and face mask to face mask like make out. I
want them to take their helmets off and do it. Okay, okay,
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Dion is a great one. I'm sure, I'm sure he'll
come up. I mean I have spent time around him
as an adult, like in his retirement years, and he
we have eaten a lot of meals together in a
green room and he is very kind and funny, but
is still that like you're in a room of people
(29:07):
that are on TV and he is holding Core and
he is if what is it? You ball? You get
the call? Listen all you get the call. That's what
you want? You want Dion to call you because he's
cool and fun. Absolutely, I love it all right, Megan,
okay um. I wanted to pick a basketball, a baseball,
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and a football. I wanted to have representation from every sport,
and so my number three is the NBA player and
it's Allen Iverson. I just think of him as I guess,
like he's not his show boat is sort of less
of what Dion's was and more just like I am here,
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I am the best, I'm gonna do whatever I want
and fuck you. And it's like it's attitude, it's showmanship.
It's also his size, like I think it's not overcompensating,
but he is, like he's given you some extra because
he is kind of a little guy, and so he's
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throwing some spice on there. And I just, yeah, I
like the way he dressed and carried himself and and
like practice that's obviously like so iconic. He knew what
he was doing, like you don't stubble stumble into one
of the most iconic like sayings in sports history. Like
he he was making a point and he knew how
(30:34):
to like play up his point. Yeah, it's smart. It's
smart because he's like you're not going to immediately think
of Alan Iverson like this like running down like Kurt
Gibson or something. But every little stink guy, the fucking
stepping over Tyler you're talking about, like every little it's
the it's like he's a show off, but it's because
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he knows he's from like the streets, and he knows
he's that good, Like he's that much of a badass.
It's like I don't even have to show off. That's
how I'm showing up his he was so good at Like, yeah,
you when you go to a game, iversone was putting
up stats, but you knew something else was going to
happen because like in like that step over to this day,
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in my line of work, maybe the most used sports meme.
I mean, there's a crying Jordan, but like the stepover
is always photoshopped to signify like someone beating somebody else
at something. Right, Yeah, it's perfect, great one, great one.
So okay, so you said Dion, I want to say so,
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I don't know much about him other other than like, okay,
so it's Connor McGregor. Oh wow, I didn't even go there.
I didn't even I would have been no specific moments.
I just know, yeah, any time I've like, yeah, anytime
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i've ever I don't think i've ever seen him actually
fight a full fight. I've only just seen him at
press conferences. Yeah, footage of him fighting a bus um
and then his like dances and celebrations and so literally
I only know him as a performer. Yeah, so I'm
gonna say Connor McGregor, Yeah, that's a great one. I mean,
I mean yeah, because like what's the context? Is it
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like show off? That like does it? Only one? He's
doing really good and he's under control and he's likable.
Otherwise it's like, yeah, McGregor could be like the biggest
show off of all time, but he's also like a
piece of it and like an asshole. So it's like
it doesn't matter. We just said show up and refresh me.
Why he has he what is his um bad stuff
that he's done. I believe assault and I don't know,
(32:47):
I don't know specific I mean technically an important distinction.
I think it's mostly just to get like property and men. Yeah,
it's just like I don't think he's up there beating women.
You maybe you maybe wouldn't want to like have him
nanny your kids, but actually he may be fine with
He's just like I think he's just one of those guys.
I think. I think the whole I get the impression
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the whole UFC is just like terrified up like psycho, Yeah,
what is your guy? What are your guys. Thoughts on
someone who is in UFC, your boxing and get in
trouble with the law for fighting, not not sexual, but
for like assault, like assault of other Does that hurt
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their image? Yeah, I mean I know that like the military,
once you're like trained in certain things, you know, they
sit you down and they're like, hey, don't go home
to your town and kill somebody at a bar, because
you can't you know, conn airship. And so it's like
just because you have the tools to kill someone in
(33:50):
a and and box and fight, doesn't mean you can
use them outside of I mean, I find actual boxing
to be barbaric. So it's like I've been pro it
in a bar. Yeah, boxing here like stupid overall in
my opinion. But um so it doesn't necessarily hurt the image.
If anything, it probably helps the image. If by image
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we mean like selling ship with your name on it.
Like he's probably more populier than ever because he gets
in part fight right, But it's like a very scary,
dangerous thing, and it just proves that the sport and
masculinity and all that, and their brains may be bleeding,
you know, they may be actually having side effects of
c T e. I laughed when you said his name,
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because you know, Irish people, we have so few people,
you know, it's there's just not a lot of sports fame,
definitely not in sports, and so for the most name
is one to be like, you know sometimes like fighting Irish.
Why is that still out? It's like, well, look at us,
you know, like we we are all we always fulfill
(34:52):
the stereotype. We almost always do fresh and like I'll
take yeah, I'll take no. I'll take no sports heroes
over economic Like I don't need a sports hero. Oh
he's not my sports hero. But even when you just
like pop sports guy, even the way like friends that
we were talking about someone and they were like, um,
(35:12):
the hot one, the Irish one, and my friend and
I who are Irish, immediately go, you know, like we
have so few that it's like on the tip of
our talk and it's like we just like take who
we take who we have. But Colin Farrell is perfect.
He is so he's like he's fighting and drinking and
like her accents are funny, you know wild Gregory's It's
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like you still sound funny. I know you're kill somebody,
but you you sound a little leop for Connie. You know, Um, okay,
should we take a break. Yeah, we'll take a break.
Will be back with our second and the first pick,
and we are back current, keep us rolling. He opened
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it up from me being a good way. I had
another guy in mind. Uh and then mccarnie, you opened
something up. So I'm gonna I'm gonna get this guy
out of the way now. Um, I forget his fucking name,
Boxer man or the bowler? The bowler guy? Who do
you think you are? Dang it? You took mine? Yes,
I know you tweeted about the the Tim character. Who
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do you think you are? I think you are? I
am the best show off ever. He straight up just
took the second thing from wrestling and would do that.
He would do the put motion to your crotch, and
he was like, yeah, bowling, he's like a he's like
a Will Ferrell sidekick. Like it doesn't even it seems
like a character. It's exactly an sl sketch of the character.
(36:48):
Yeah like that. It's funny. Though I can't remember his
last name, Pete Pete Webber is his name. Yeah, But
the guy Tim, what's his name, Tim Robinson? Tim Robinson
did a knockoff that character and it like just looks
like a normal guy now because that guy exists. That's
what I was gonna I was gonna let him do
that character. It would look like a completely fake guy,
but now he just looks real. I was gonna reply, like,
(37:11):
no discredit to Tim, but like, it's hard to be
as funny, if or funnier than than the original guy
that this is based on that real guy, because in
that video he does like a tagline and it's like, no, actually,
the one is. The actual one is way funnier, and
Tim is maybe the funniest person I've ever met. Tim
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is one of the finest people in the world. And
they clearly tried to mimic that specific line, who do
you think you are? I? Yeah? And you can hear
the line when they tried to mimic it, and it's
just not as good. It's just not as good as
who do you think you are? I Am? And I
haven't done research. There's a whole documentary I think that
where everyone found out about him. They did like a
thirty for thirty short, But just let's break down that
tag who do you Think you are? I Am? Was
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that intentional or not. It was absolutely not. No way
was that on purpose. He funked up, and I know
it because what do you think he was trying to say?
It's like you think I think he was trying to say,
like I'm like you think you think you're on that. Yeah,
he must have mixed up two phrases. There was one
(38:15):
phrase that started with who do you think you are?
And the one phrase that ended with I am, And
he mixed him up in his head. He couldn't decide,
and he said the bull. It's like when you see
someone you want to ask, you can't decided. You should
have how are you? Or like what's going on? And
he just like how are you going on? Combined him. Yeah,
this guy's classic. He's so fun and yeah, it's like
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he is like the Lebron or Michael Jordan's of ESPN three.
You know it's because it's the context. It's like he's bony.
It's like Tiger Woods out there going suck it. It's like,
oh my god, he's staying stuck it on on the gulf.
His wife, her name's d D and she there's a video.
I mean, she's classic. She's classic. You could play her
(38:58):
in a movie. Big, big blond hair. Oh yeah, why
that's so rude and like there's I just I was like,
I want to know what his wife looked like, and
she looks like it. And the first thing that pops
up of her is he's bowling and she's flipping off
like ESPN whatever like dd CDs class like you guys,
(39:19):
like she's laughing. No, no, she's doing a joke. That's
like that's d d's humor is like, you know, which
isn't that? If c J was in the Dunk contest,
what I maybe like do the like eating out Vy
God first contest. Yeah, you're in the dunk I'm listen.
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I put myself in in every athlete we name their
spouse's position. Um yeah, okay, so yeah check out Pete
Webert is so good, so highly recommended. All right, okay,
I'm really excited for my number two. I listened to
I think there's a thirty for three podcast about episode
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about him, and so you know, we're just plugging all
their products. Ricky Henderson and like Ricky Henderson is I
just I really honestly, I know there's other guys in
baseball who were like wacky, but like he became famous,
I think because he talked about himself in the third person.
You know, there's all these wild stories. There's some of
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them are just like they haven't been substantiated, and kind
of the myth of him grew. But like there's a
story of him standing naked in front of the mirror,
like pretending to swing and just going where he's the best,
where he's the best, and it's like I'm love in
front of his Um. He didn't spend any of his
per diam money. He would like, you know, keep it
(40:46):
in the envelope, and then if one of his kids
did something good or got like a good grade, he
would give them an envelope of perdam money. So he's
like a cool, fascinating guy. He never really he didn't
ever do anything wrong. This is joy fall as well too,
Like he just loved baseball. Of the episode about him
is when he goes down to the minor leagues and
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like independent leagues and was like a father, a mentor,
like men are like crying weeping about being on a
minor league baseball team with Ricky Henderson just because he
was so incredible and could still really fucking play at
such a age. Um is Ricky the one who does
who flips? Or no, No, that was Auzie Smith. I
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think I considered him, and it's a cool choice. I
was thinking baseball. I'm like, I don't know what kind
of griffy I guess, but not really like Junior now
is doing some back flips. Maybe it's it's hard to
find anybody that's really stands out, but Ricky was at
the top of the list of baseball guys I was
considering because of what you're talking about, Like, it's not
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a bunch of outlandish stuff. It's like every little slide
and pop up and Clapp's fast and there's little energy
behind all it. It's like, yeah, I'm excited, I'm having fun.
Let's go. Um he's just like he looks like he's
on speed the entire time. He's um. I think he's
like the greatest base stealer of all time and considered
(42:12):
one of the greatest leadoff hitters of all time. So
he's bad. I mean, it's it's like Major League the
movie stole characters based on people. He is the prototype
for is it Wesley Snipe? Wesley Snipe guy the first one? Okay,
And so yeah, he's just fast and fun. And he
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says that he does not speak like if you were like,
what's what do you want for dinner, he'd be like
Ricky wants. He says he does not do that. He
he talks in the third person when he's trying to
get on himself, like come on, Ricky, do the right thing.
Come on, Ricky, step up like that. It's a it's
a motivator, and that it got way blown out of
proportion that he did it. But I don't either way,
I like it, I think, especially in that context if
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that's really what he does, like that's cool. Come on, Kurt,
come on you hurt. I'll do that. I've done that
in my head. I still do that. Apparently this is
a message he left to a manager that he was
about to be playing for Kevin. This is Ricky calling
on behalf of Ricky. Ricky wants to play baseball. Nike
or some or a brand didn't like embrace that. I
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think he was like some people. A lot of people
didn't like him because he was so flashy, um and
he was new and like stealing basses was still not
cool and sexy, and he like just started making it
a thing and he could just do it like eighty
times a season or something, and everyone was like kind
of scared of him. I forgot in the ways that
people weren't ready for he. Um when he path when
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he got the record for all times stolen bases, he
gave a speech like it was an award show. Thanks
God and his mother. Um yeah, I mean he is
yeah great, he yeah, he's fun. Alright. Uh. Side note
(44:03):
to one of our friends, Trevor, he has he bought
a fake uh Ricky Henderson jersey from China and it
says Ricky hendis Ron And um, I remember says Ricky Henderson.
It says hendis Ron and I and I don't know
that much about baseball. We all know that. And I
(44:23):
remember just staring at it for like hours within hanging out,
and then I'm like, hey, man, do you know that
it says hendis Ron on the back year jersey goes,
oh yeah, I got it from one of those bootlegs
sites in China. So d I want to buy everything
from those scared it just takes from you. I would
trust that instinct. I would trust the scary and yeah
(44:46):
yeah yeah all right. Um, so my number two pick.
So this is a guy who actually doesn't in his
play or did it in his like the way he plays,
and I think it's I would consider a show about
Jason Williams White Chocolate he was on. Yeah, Like it's
like it's as we were talking about pick up. His
(45:08):
play itself is so silly. Yeah, but it's like you're
gonna hit it off your elbow, you show yeah, And
I guess that, yeah, show off and show about the
definition partly is like completely unnecessary and for the the
simple simple purpose of showing off. Um, Like I remember,
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like the greatest kind of street ball highlight in NBA
history is probably the rookie game where Jason Williams throws
it off his elbow and if you like calculate all
of it, really didn't do any didn't trick anyone. No,
no one was trying to stop him. If anything, it's
like confusing. You're like, why did he do that? And
(45:50):
that's like altering that's altering the defense amount. But yeah, um,
and I feel like his coach is probably like, yeah,
being like you're a showboat or something showing off out there.
He just gave him the ball. You don't have to
do it five different ways. No, he one of the
best clips. One of my favorite that's one of my
favorite highlight reels to watch on YouTube for foremost White
Chocolates like to go to And one of the best
(46:11):
clips of it is when he crosses up Gary Payton
and Gary Payton makes his face like, oh, Gary Payton's
like blown away that William's broken down like that that
he's he's he got beat so bad that he's enjoying
it and he's looking back up Williams like, oh my god.
So for someone like Gary Payton to be blown away
with how much you're showing off you because off it
(46:36):
was John Timper, like the the o G like let's
show off, let's show out. When I was doing my
ute research for this episode, um, all of the articles
were written by men who were so mad at these athletes,
Like every headline was like the biggest show boating asshole
(46:58):
donkey boot Lutton it like they were everything was mad,
and then they'd be like this guy could be a
good player if he would just stop his bullshit, like
so angry at these players, so angry, and it's like
fun people, You're like all of these is like all
of famers, awesome cool guys. Yeah, yeah, it's white guys,
lazy white guys who were like missed the days when
(47:21):
good enough bad mad white sports writers who can't dunk.
It's like, okay, I mean you're hearing report. Okay. Yeah.
The classic white dad thing is like that guy shows
off too much. He's always doing this razzle dazzle. It's like,
why are you watching sports to watch someone do their job,
like watch clean cups and backboard usage, Like let's have
(47:45):
some fun. Okay, Um, shoot, we've already taken two breaks. Um,
so I'm going first, Yes, so Kurt, how we do
it is? The guests is our big grand finale? Oh god, Okay,
I have one on Norble mention and it's Babe Ruth.
Just to call your shot is so bold. I think
(48:07):
just point and be like it's going. It's crazy candy
bar and and and that is a show off. That
is a show off to have you on candy bar. Um. Okay,
So gosh, you guys are gonna be mad at me
um for how I did this. But my number one
pick is just wide receivers, just so just and so
(48:31):
that too. That like initially came to mine outside of
Dion R t O and chat Ocho Sinko. I mean,
so I guess if I had to pick, I would
pick Ocho Sinko because he changed his name to Ocho Sinko,
which was his number UM and legally did it and
now has since changed it back, and like, you know,
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a famous celebrator, a famous sort of like trash talker,
really fun, really fast, cool good um and on a
team that like never really was able to get him to,
Like he made his own national stage in Cincinnati, like
it was just like okay, everyone, here's boring and all,
we have a skyline Chili, I'll dance into your hearts.
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And he did, and I follow him on Twitter and
he's still he acts like this on Twitter, like it's
just who he is to just want to interact and
like have fun and be raw and be real. Like
sometimes he is apologizing like he's just someone he's just
saying like thinking and saying everything, and so sometimes he
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has to go, oh, yeah, I shouldn't have done that,
but he just is. So he is like a movie
wide receiver. To me, he's that's a perfect pick. I
feel I was kicking myself for not even considering, ever
thinking of him. He was fantastic He was one of
the best celebrators of all time in the NFL. He
had so much fun everything the name changing. But one
thing people forget or people don't pay attention to go
(50:00):
back and watch some of the footage of him. He
worked as hard as anybody. Yeah, he posted his ass
man and he blocked and he liked he ran clean
fucking Crisp ro out. He was like working people. So
he worked really hard and people only paid attention to
the to the outlandish stuff. But like he always delivered.
He rarely made a stink like a t O would
in terms of like give me the ball more like
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I think he did some probably, but like never it
was never that significant. He never went full like Antonio
Brown or anything. But he was fun and he worked hard,
and there was joy in it. There was joy in
the celebrating and the showing off because he clearly just
loved it so much. And it's just like he just
he had that same Ricky Henderson energy like I want
to run and I want to catch on. I'm moving down.
Cut this way and cut that way, let's go, and
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yes we did it. It's like just that like they're
on speed kind of energy because they just loved playing
that much. I love following his love life too. He's
dated some reality stars. I saw, I saw him and
I think her name is Eden. She was on she
was on one of the reality shows. I saw them
fighting out um in Lucas Oil Stadium at the super Bowl.
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They were having like they're having a lover squirrel inside.
He's also one of those guys who, like, you know,
he's only ever been that guy like he might he
might actually just be stupid, you know what I mean,
Because he's only ever just been like a charming guy
who's like a freak athlete. So like he's there's an
energy to him where he's like I feel like he's
very like still there's a degree of like he's he's
(51:31):
a little stilted, you know what I mean. He's probably
not that mature. Maybe not mature is the better phrase.
And this supposed to stupid, but like he's probably just
like a google. I bet he's still in playing shape. Yeah,
he's like sprinting on things. It's like you don't need
to be sprinting that hard, Chad. Yeah that him and
t O both look in the same shape they did
(51:52):
when they Yeah, Wow, good for them. Not me. Yeah,
I mean I can't stay the same shape for for women,
it's probably wedding shape, you know that start playing shape
and okay, c J, give us you number one. You
got an honorable men cheese, I do, but I don't
want to take him. Well, let me say, uh, Tara
(52:12):
Owens was one of them, and then yeah, Kurt took
Pete Webber from me. So I used to my pick um.
Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is just yeah, I mean, I
think greatest like Showman, showboat, most confident athlete I've ever seen.
And granted, like we I didn't get to experience his
prime in real time, and so I'm just watching like
(52:33):
documentary footage, but just like him dancing in the ring
all the like some of them, probably has the most
iconic sports photography because he was almost putting it on
for the camera. He was almost like striking the pose.
Remember there's this one story, and I think I've said
on the podcast before where there was a time when
he knocked a guy out and the guy hadn't fallen
(52:55):
like completely yet and he could illegally hit him again
to make sure, but Ali backed off to watch him fall.
For the dramatics like the dramatics of it all. It's
like to me, that is like that is the greatest,
um like literally the yeah, he's the greatest. Well and
he was he like as I was doing Ricky Henderson research.
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That's his idol, you know, like he is so many.
He was a trailblazer for the show boots to come,
you know, or like I want to be like Mohammad Ali,
like I wouldn't be the greatest, and even just declaring
yourself the greatest is his showman ship. Yeah, and he
met the Beatles, huge greatest show up ever, the Beatles.
(53:39):
So Mohammad Ali, al right, bring us home here with
number one. Pick you're fregatting, you're freaking stull mine. It's
of course Muhammad Ali is number one. It's like the
lazy choice because he's like actually clearly the greatest ever
at it. Um So that was my number one. Yeah,
just like the dancing in the in the showmanship in
the ring is one thing, but like his like poetry
(54:01):
of his interviews was insane. But the way he was
like his own hype man and just like he gets going,
he's like a pastor up in the church going crazy.
Everybody's losing their mind listening to him because he's just
so he gets this energy and you building, building to build,
and it's all it's all like rhymes and there's like
there's a there's a beat to it. It's like almost
like a rap, and there's like it was insane. He
(54:23):
was like the most interesting creative, like outlandish. Yeah, and
he played it up with he had like characters in
his life. Sorry I stopped you from saying something, but
the way you like played it up with like Howard
Cosell and and Don King, like he like played into
that like played characters. Yes, he must have. Yeah, there
must have been of a like, oh, I'm gonna go
(54:44):
a little actra on this, you know what I mean,
Like there's a there had to have been some self
awareness there to still go out and be that good
every time you fought, you have to be a little
self aware of like, oh, this is part of it.
This is like we're building hype here, We're we're selling tickets, etcetera.
So this genius try to save it a little bit
with this lackluster finished with some honorable mentions to think
about right the back. You got the Brandy Chastain, you
(55:07):
got the Rapino with her. But that also opens up
like all the male soccer players to like that's like
every single goal they're sliding on the Yeah soccer, sorry
we forgot you, m m. But like they all get
to do it, may do do it, So no one
(55:28):
really stands out outside of that those two Rapino and
chest Stain. There's no other moments that I can think of,
like that one time that one guy did this well,
like an Italian or a Spaniard. That's a level of like,
you know, those are shown, come on there showing in
the streets. You know, they're just yeah, but there's you know,
(55:50):
who else is I thinking about? Um, there's there's a
lot of subtle show off that I love, Like Steph
Curry and Aaron Rodgers are the two I think of most.
Like show off a lot, but never big. Aaron Rodgers
is always doing that little discount double check, the check
of the belt, and he's always doing the cutest like
(56:10):
first downs when he gets the first down, that thing
that all white quarterbacks do whenever they run for one.
That's cute, little finger. Um. But Philip Rivers, by the way,
he's a little show boat. Yeah, the biggest trash chalkers
in the game. He nuts, he screams, and he doesn't curse.
He doesn't curse. Probably, I really do wonder how the defense,
(56:37):
which is not polably yesterday, how the defense likes this
like old white religious man. I bet they bet when
he's on your team, it's like pretty fun. I bet
it's pretty fun. Know when he's on it's like Baker
Mayfield like yeah, Baker, I'm sort of just ignoring him,
Like c J will be like, let's go fill up,
(56:57):
and I'm like, no, we're not. Really. Do you know
where there's other guys out there, you know we can
focus on them. Yeah, Kurt tell us a little bit
about the movie. Yeah, thanks guys, movies called Derek's Dead.
I made it twenty nineteen. Bunch of friends helped out,
got some help with these producers. I want to shout
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out Lenny Barstop and Aaron Brown, Thank you guys. And yeah,
we just made it for fun funny. It's a comedy.
It's about the plot again here, I gotta remember the pitch.
It's about two former best friends who currently hate each other,
but they're forced to reconnect when their third former best friend,
who they also hate, dies and tasks these two idiots
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who hate each other with spreading his ashes as like
his last wish for These guys are kind of forced
to reconnect over this other guy they don't even like Diane,
and then it gets weirder from there. Yeah. I know
one of the guys is Joe McAdam, who is our
last guest. Um, it's very funny. I know people said
that they enjoyed him, so yeah, check it out like
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you guys. You guys kind of did on a small
budget and went out there and made something that was
really really funny last year. And yeah, super super funny.
It was fun to do. I'm very proud of it
and I'm I'm happy it's coming out. It is just
available for pre order right now on iTunes, but if
you can swing it, it makes us look really cool,
so pre orders would be tight. Okay, that's what preorder,
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That's what we're gonna do. And I was dead. Derek's
dead And I'm not even saying this. I hope no
one is listening to this podcast with their child named Derek.
I'm not saying this to be funny, but it does
sound like it could be a holiday film being around
people from your past has a lot of reconnecting past
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and letting go certain things forgiveness connection. I should point
out that um, I named this guy Derek. The guy
that's dead is Derek Anderson. That's why named him. I
specifically named him after a guy. In high school. He
lost the state championship to the team whose quarterback was
Derrick Anderson, who went on to play in the NFL
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for years. He had really easing with the Browns and
he backed up Cam Newton for years in Carolina. That
counts a nice guy. But he called me a bitch
in the in the state championship game. Well, here's what happened.
I was such a like show off, playful guy in
in high school football. I would small top with the
other guys and I try to be their buddy. And
there was one time where some guy I thought I
was cool with was like hit me in the jaw
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and like jabbing me and punching me in the ribs.
And I was like, what's going on? Man? I thought
we were cool. I was literally confronting him like that, like,
what's up? Man? I thought we were buddies. Are you okay?
But Derrick Anderson, future NFL quarterback witnessed that, and he
thought I was trash talking, and I was like, hey,
he was. He was acting crazy. I was telling him
to calm down. And then Derrick Anderson said, you calmed down, bitch. Well,
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I mean when you said had a very good season
with the Browns, It's like, I don't recall that. So
I don't think I recall that. Derrick Anderson shut up,
and I recalled that. Derek Anderson and the NBA one
of Jordan Brand's first NBA players. Um, all right, well, Kurt,
thank you so much. Where can people find you? Twitter
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Welcome to the Greatest, a production of I Heart Radio.
Welcome to another episode of the Greatest. I'm when your
hosts c J. Toldano, joined by my wife Gagan Gaily. Hi, Hi,
how you doing. I'm pretty good. How are you doing?
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Doing great? Doing great? Post Thanksgiving? I already don't want
to do anything. Yeah, that's how I'm feeling. Okay, how
are you feeling? Did you eat well on Thanksgiving? Yes,
I I very well. You saw me and I felt
all levels of sickness. But yeah, I'm happy about what
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we did. I'm happy about what we did to um,
let's bring in our guests so then we can really
get the Thanksgiving talk popping. Um you want to intro? Yeah?
Why not? A very very good friend to both of us,
very very funny comedian writer direct after why we you know?
One of the reasons why we're having him on the
show is because he has a new movie coming out.
(01:05):
Pre orders are already up. I've heard it's important. It's
called Derek's Dead. Without further ado, welcoming the star, the writer,
the director. Maybe edited it a little bit bit, Kurt
Neil I did edit the whole thing pretty much. Clay
helped a little. That's incredible. Yeah, it could have been bad.
(01:28):
I don't maybe I edited it bad. I don't. Nobody
said anything yet, so I think I did good. Um, No,
I'm sure you did great. So it's very very funny. Yeah,
I saw there was a I think it was like
the week of our wedding, because Kurt, you came into town. Yeah,
and you did a little premier downtown. It was like
the Monday before the wedding, we did a little friends
and friends and family thing at the Damntown Independent. My
(01:49):
parents and my brother were there. That was tight, and
a bunch of pell shut up. I just I literally
assumed Megan was just too busy, because she's now that
I hear it, it's like, well, I'm like, what was
I doing? What was I doing? And it's like I
was obviously somewhere just being a bit about the wedding.
Of course you had every reason not to be there. Yeah.
Well I was very hungry that week. Um, And so
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they're they're just were there were in a lot of
activities on my plate. Um, Kurt is joining us from Oregon.
I love Oregon. It's a beautiful stay. I'm in Pleasant Hill, Oregon,
which is right by Eugene, Oregon. I mean that's not
even like that name even. Yeah, that's exactly where I
(02:31):
grew up. You go south from Eugene, you take fifty
eight high. With fifty eight, you got this little hill
after the gas station. That's literally where Pleasant Hill starts,
where the first driveway on the right. Tell us, tell
us about the kind of trees you're seeing up there.
We got we got a bunch of pine, um and
then we got them all to be perfectly honest, I'm
embarrassed because I can't name more than pine. But we've
(02:54):
got pine, for sure. But you got big ones, huge
ones in the forest, and we got little ones in
the city with all the leaves, and they turned around
and now they're on the street, and now everybody's blowing
the leaves and that seems like a waste of time,
but everybody's doing it. Um, Well, they blow them into bags, right,
they blow them. But why do you do that? Can't
you just leave them there? Well? I don't know what
they do, honestly, I've seen people do it my whole life.
(03:16):
Do they burn them? Doday? Is there a special recycling
land for leaves? Real? You can't burn them? But the
only specific times. There's sometimes you can't burn because everything's
too dry. You gotta make sure enough to burn. But
I meant like, does someone in charge burn them? Probably
(03:38):
just one guy, I think Mr Mr Leaf Incinerator, which
a college. He had to get it. He had to
get a PhD in Ah inflammable. Two things here, just
just I just want to let the audience in on
Kurt Um. Not only you're you're comedian with all that
stuff that we named earlier, but you're also are our
(03:59):
friend that really really brings out the silliest and everyone
you hang out with me specifically, so this is a
cool compliment. Thanks man, dude. Yeah no, Megan because so
uh we played that quip lash game. Yeah, and again
I don't know if any of this interesting, but Megan
like rolled her eyes when she saw immediately you and
I want to roll my eyes interact. You weren't even
(04:20):
with me. You weren't even with me. But I'm saying,
oh when I watched you guys, but you're saying you
saw me roll my eyes. That's the appropriate response. But
the thing is people on this thing and me and
are making jokes at each other. Yeah, and they weren't good.
They were I voted for a lot of yours. Her
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was the winning ist. I was second winning in our
in our flip, we be a man in Louis for Tell,
who I have so much respect and admiration for it
has been on Jeopardy is one of the funniest, smartest people.
And you and c J were able to effectively silence
a genius just by being didn't you know? I left?
(05:07):
I left the zoom feeling guilty that the guy never
got to say anything? Did you know that the guy
get out worded? I've never met him in my wo
Kurt you were you were rost hurt. He has a
famous gift, one of the most famous gifts of all
time on the internet. He's the gift Master, which well
he didn't even he was just on Jeopardy and he
got um uh is that? When do they got like
(05:29):
the Jeopardy you know, the Daily, the Daily Dopers what
my dad calls it. See, I mean I come from
silly stuff, so he got the Daily Silly and your
family and then he like snaps and and he's just
the best. He's so smart too. And then the apologized
to him once I cut him off, and I said, sorry,
you didn't get that joke in man, that's not like
(05:51):
cutting roast. But no, it wasn't me personally. And then
what else I was gonna say, we're gonna leave. I'm
gonna lead this back to sports. But the leaves thing, uh,
this is a story from another podcast. Truly, this has
nothing to do with anything except for the leaves fun story. Pasadena,
So hallow, the movie Halloween was filmed in Pasadena, less
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than ten minutes from where we Megan and I sit today,
and this is crazy. So they would carry around one
bag of leaves because it was like filmed during the
summer when there was no leaves, not leaves kind of
anytime anytime, yeah, here in l A. And so one
person would carry around the same bag of leaves where
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they shot, yeah, the leaves, and then they would after
the scene was done, they would then put the leaves
back in the bag, and then they would another location.
And then there was obviously someone like some sort of
set person that was like, if you do lose a leave.
We hear these stories in Hollywood, Like the one that's
coming to mind is like the guy that had to
(06:59):
hold Russell Crowe's cigarette for him when he was playing
a boxer in something and he like couldn't. So there's
all of these There was a guy and they're gonna
do this, so I won't even say they stole it
for me. They should do like a a MC series
where they interview whoever that like person is that there's
(07:20):
these Hollywood urban legends about love that almost like a
drunk history thing where like p A's go and tell
their terrible stories. You would be a lot be a
lot of drivers. I'm talking about this. This is a
good idea. Nicky Rooney threatened to murderer guy if his
wife was in the water for five more minutes for
this weird movie I was working on his wife. Him
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and his wife were also in it and it was
all it all had to be night shoots, but there
was also a lot of water stuff, so it was
like coal. And they're both Mickey Rooney, his wife like
Mickey Rooney like eighty. His wife was at least like sixties.
Um who had to be in the water for this thing.
And they were like going beyond when they were supposed
to go, and Mickey and the producer had like the
egg Mickey Rooney to let him keep shooting, and Mickey
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Rooney like was right that, like, hey, she shouldn't be
in the water anymore. But he went too far when
he's like, if anything happens to her, I'll fucking killing you. Wow.
He is he passed? Is he passed? He might be
by now, because I just don't want I don't want
him to come for our podcast. It to somebody. I
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don't know if CJ wants Mikey Rooney. I don't know
if c J wants to brought up, but I'm gonna
accidentally bring it up. Someone last week was like, have
you ever eaten bugs? Was asking me like if I
had ever eaten bugs? And I was like, god, I
think I I feel like I eat a grasshopper or something.
And then and then they were like and then I go, oh, yeah,
(08:46):
I got high and ate grasshoppers with two NBA legends
and somehow the story. I just was like, I can't
remember if I ate a bug. And then I was like, yeah,
I was with John Sally and Nate Robinson and we
got high while eating bugs together and it left my
brain somehow. Yeah, I love it. It's crazy. I mean, yeah,
(09:07):
we didn't think a week ago, and I've been excited
for this white since July or whatever. But Megan and
I are very connected to Nate Robins. I don't know
if it's not very connected, but we both met him.
We text every day. Yeah, we've both met him. We've
both met his assistant slash friend same one maybe not
um and we both loved him and he like complimented.
(09:27):
CJ met him first. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah. He did
the House Highlights show and maybe one of my fair guests.
He let a snake in spider and he was before
the show. He took a shirt off him and his
friend uh and played ping pong, like very very competitively,
and like we had to pull him in to be like, hey,
you gotta put on his shirt and do the show
(09:50):
you're here for. And then I'm then like months later, man, Yeah,
I met him maybe six months later, and I was
obviously like nervous. I was wearing these really thick edge
shoes they're called Melissa's and so I was substantially taller
than him, and so I was like chatting with him,
and then I was like, I actually think you've met
my boyfriend I think was my boyfriend at the time,
(10:11):
and I was like House the Highlights and he goes
Indian and I go Filipino, and he goes, that's right.
But I was like, there isn't the other guy's Indian?
Like he wasn't being like he just was like, I
don't know if it's which one for the Yeah, for
the record, to Nate and I bonded over fashion over clothes.
He really Yeah, I didn't know you were a close guy.
(10:35):
So we're sad about Nate. We're trying to say, but
he wasnt. Sigh. I don't. I wasn't even close to
the guy, and I was pretty bumped. I don't. Well,
he's a Pacific Northwest guy as well, like he rips.
He was just a cool basketball player in Jake Paul's
trash like, of course everyone was sad for Nate Robinson. Yeah,
I mean, so, can can I ask you? Because I
I've been obsessed over the last couple of days, Like
(10:58):
I've been doing a deep dive on like what was
going on through Nate's like, and I watched the vlogs
before and you know, truly the magic of editing in sports.
It's like he looked like he was training for real,
but well he's also like so like he must have
just assumed like he's the only athlete between the two,
so he's probably fine. Looks like Jake Paul actually worked
(11:20):
pretty hard. Well, I guess he was like boxing before.
I don't know the difference between Jake Paul and Logan Paul,
but I know I don't like either one exactly. And
even if you were like, no, this one is better,
I'd be like, Nope, someone made a joke about now
he's just like he's following in his older brother's footstep,
staring at a dead guy or something because younger one
(11:43):
I thought he was the one that did that. That's
what I thought too, And then I was like, wait,
if that's your role model, you know, like like if
your big brother is the worst piece of ship, you're
not gonna You're either gonna be like incredible or you're
gonna be the next worst piece of ship. Yeah, you
either have the one up or like do something. And
(12:04):
so Nate from the Greatest and Curt Neil, we are
sending you a speedy recovery. I'm sure he's okay at
this point, but he's still like one. I sent the
video to um Curtain Eyes. Brother. We call it the
brother Ball chat Room up. But there's a video of
(12:26):
of him at at the j W. Marriott. There was like, um,
this guy who falls boxing video taping and does like
interviews and he recorded Nate coming into the hotel the
j W. And he's like, no, what's up the Nate?
Like Nate was so cool and like he said, hey,
I'm Nate. I know my first ye I'm good at
that j W. This is the j W. Ris Carlton
(12:50):
is that was called Rich Carlton. There was a Rich
Charles in Indianapolis and I was like, no, it was
Rich Charles. And it's like that's clearly a rip off,
Like yeah, it's tipsy, what did you call it? Cheeter brand,
cheer everything, all these connects. There's a whole season. There's
like a whole plot on Real Housewives in New York
(13:11):
Desperate Housewife. Okay, so you are like, where do you
go to see celebs in l A. I have no idea.
I cannot tell you. But the one place where I
see more celebs in anywhere else, it's the Ritz Carlton
j W. Marriott in l A. Live Meagan, I swear
to God, when I last place, you think they'd be
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like why are you well They're the reason I've seen
people there is for the SPS. That's where everybody stays.
Staples said, well, but then, like anything that's happening at
Staples Center, and then Microsoft Theater is like the Grammys
and Awards. So he he literally in the video he
walks to the elevators, and all I could think of
was when you were in the elevator with DeAndre Jordan's yes,
(13:55):
and what was the joke he said in there? It's
of the elevator was packed because the SPS had just
ended like five minutes ago, so it was packed maybe
fifteen people in an elevator like craziness, and a guy
like pops up like right as it's closing, and he's like, DeAndre,
can I get twenty bucks? Like a stranger? And then
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the doors closed and it's kind of quiet, and then
DeAndre looks at all us because what the fuck, and
we're all like, yeah, what the funk? That was weird?
And so then and so then people are having laughs,
and then he's getting off the elevator and as the
doors were closing, I go, hey, DeAndre, can I get
twenty dollars? So and then then then the elevator and
(14:38):
then the elevator laughed at me, and I think he
was probably the only woman on the elevator, Like I
felt like I it was my moment. I wouldn't have
just done that out of nowhere. That's guts even a
goal for in that scenario. That's like, that's a great joke.
But then we saw Jamal Hill in the lobby and
I was so drunk holding my shoes like barefoot, like
you are a hero to me. I mean, you know,
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John white woman celebrating the black woman, saw the what's
the bad? What's Floyd and others crew get money gang
the money. Then they had they have like eight rolls
Royces outside of their ones like or yeah, a double
(15:26):
decker Rose Royce. Um. Okay, so Kurt, we'll get it
back to you. We just needed to talk about Nate
Robinson a little bit and Leaves. But so this is
a question only specific to you. Are you a good athlete?
It is a total set up. Yeah, yeah, I think
you are. I've heard your good basketball, but yet you
(15:47):
you are? You are? No. I just love I've always
loved your confidence and just like you're one of my
favorite people to talk about kind of just like high
school uh, sports stories and right, so it was good
as Yeah, what what did you play growing up? And
and catch us up on some of your your kind
of playing career. Sure, thanks that this is a great
(16:08):
opportunity for me growing up a little like through junior
high it was football, basketball, baseball, the Big three by
the end of eighth grade, and which one were you
the best at? Football? Absolutely? And position did you play
football as a youth? That was just kind of receiver. Um,
as I got into high school and like, I wasn't
(16:28):
as fast as the other guys. By then, I was
a tight end and I played I played cornerback on defense,
two way starter. But after I quit basketball after eighth
grade because I wasn't good. Um, I hit it. There
was one game in eighth grade. It was I think
that was the first year we had three pointers, and
at one point I got the ball and like no
one was open and I was just desperately looking to
(16:49):
pass it, and then everybody was just saying shoot it, dude.
I'm like, all right, So I shot a three and
I made it. I got cool, and I go back
on defense. But as I'm going back on defense, I
look over and every single parent in the crowd on
their feet, just losing their minds because Kurt hit a
three pointer. In that moment, as like a twelve or
thirteen year old kid, I was like, alright, basketball is
not for me. That I have a good deal when
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I hit a three man basketball is not for me.
And I didn't feel like I'm the bad in that moment.
I just it's probably in retrospect it was dumb, like
I was. Probably okay, I probably should have kept playing,
but then it was all about football baseball. In high school,
I was really good. Second team All State football, uh
(17:33):
team MVP, first team All League baseball pitcher. Yeah, okay,
so left handed. I was surprised that you didn't play quarterback.
I get quarterback pipes from me, and you're tall. Yeah.
It didn't transfer for some reason. Even though I was
a pitcher in baseball, I couldn't throw a football very
well and from a very young age, from the second
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I like tried out for football, I was just really
good at going and getting the ball. I had like
exceptionally good hands. Unfortunately for all the other kids. UM.
When I tried out for football in fourth grade for
the first time, I played with the fifth graders. UM now,
I'm were there black people at your school? Oh? I
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just genuinely, I was genuinely curt very just there was one.
There was like one or two at a time. There's
a kid, Drew that was like two years old. I mean,
he was cool. He's a good baseball player. And then
there was Tyrone who was a year younger than he
was a badass football player. But he would like I
would give him rides home and he'd make me like
mixed ds of like rap music. I'd never it was.
(18:36):
It was, would you guys play schools that had black people?
M m, I can't remember any. No, I don't remember
any other black kids on any of the schools we played.
We were all we were small enough that we were
only playing other small world town of course, but even
the bigger schools outside of Portland's, there's there's not many
(18:56):
black people. Yeah, we're trying to tell your high school
playing career is infant. I was so good in football especially,
and then like nobody did anything and like at any
level after high school? What were you nearby? Uh? And
was this at the same time as Kevin Love or No.
Kevin Love was a little older than me, and he
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was up in Portland. He went to lick Oswego, which
is the richest hell I know. I mean, I've been
to Lake us we Go. It's like it's not like
a Bond film, like it's so beautiful. It's beautiful, but
it's he's a rich he's a rich kid. His dad's
apparently a prick. But by all accounts he's really cool.
(19:40):
He seems yeah, he seems like he's he's become very
very cool. I've just heard his dad's an assholes. Yea
perfect sense. Honestly, Lake Oswego rich people are some of
the best I've met, Like I know, very kind, amazingly
lovely people from there. They just also happened to be gazillionaires.
I don't even want to I don't even want to
know if I want to put a letter on it, um,
(20:01):
but I so I want to say to your your
playing style, just to like sort of segue into the
topic here, because I know i've seen you in and
just kind of your character and I genuinely don't think
you are so Our topic today is greatest show boats,
and I think you you and I maybe do it
you more just as a kind of a joke, but
(20:21):
I think we also we gravitate towards you know, um
players like this who are very very like show showman. Yeah,
carras that like it's a stage. The playing field in
corn is a stage to that. Yeah, and you put like, yes,
I think we both do it a lot, but we
both put enough silliness on it. But nobody's like piste
(20:41):
off at us. Like when we're showing off, it's me like,
shoot a shot backwards, make it half the time, but
like it's like and see it as the same thing.
Will do like ten pump fakes three leafty loops and
like the laughing. But he thinks it's good. Yeah, you
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guys are you guys are weird? Al Yankovic of like
pick up ball, but c J thinks he is John
Lennon and Megan like nobody. Megan, you you played, you
have a you have a short playing career. Were you
at any point a show boat at basketball anything? I
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don't know. At tennis, I was like, oh, I was
kind of like a bitch. I would I would fight
with people. But it was also it was like the
other fourteen year old girls and we were so in tennis.
This is what's sucked up they weren't. We didn't have
referees or umpires to fourteen year old girls playing a
(21:50):
sport from opposite size of the track, you know, based
on the honor system, and there would be bitches that
would lie for sure. It's also really hard to call
a tennis match when you're playing it. So I would hunt,
like you were taught, say are you sure? Very passive
aggressive you, but that's what you're taught. Are you usual?
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And so I would of course be like, are you sure? Okay,
I've I see I see you yeah, And so that
would happen. I once got into it with the sweetest girl,
the sweetest girl who's sweet mom, sweet even sweeter than
her mom, was friends with my sweet mom, and they
were there watching us, and I just like so mean
(22:35):
and losing and just just ruined my family's name. I'd
love to see it. I wish there was a video.
And like chunky, I was like chubby and mean and
not that good, and I had so much attitude on
the I love it. Those are the people that you
have the post attitude, the people that can't quite bag
it up. I used to do a lot I got
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like especially in football, like with baseball, especially as a picture.
It's about like it's calm, stoked, in control. So I
was all business in baseball, and I was a bad
hitter too, so it was only a pitching anyways. But
with football, I could just get so jacked playing football.
I've never been. There's nothing in my life I've done
since where I'm just like, let's go, like just sucking ready,
(23:17):
not never before, like a sketch show, dude, I just
can't energy bars moving up. It's like I'm getting stronger
and but like so there's no there's no stopping me.
As soon as I actually do something good, I couldn't
help it. I would like spike the ball and then
have to apologize to the reff And like the first
touchdown I caught in in varsity football, I like jumped
(23:39):
up and spiked it and screamed and my buddy was
like what are you doing and the reff was like,
come on, man, I'm like I'm sorry. I said it slipped,
and even my friend was still like old slip. Sure, dude.
So everybody's making fun of me, and like I just
showed up. And there's a bunch of other ones that
were bad. There was one time where like I intercepted
a ball and then fell down own and there's a
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clip of it. I'm right in front of the news camera.
I've got it on a VHS. I mean I can't
and I'm right by I'm right by our bench. Like
as soon as I pop up, I like hold the
ball up over my head like I'm showing it to
like the crowd, like I got it. The balls ares
and it's right in front of the bench, and everybody's
like slapping me. But I'm like staring at the crowd,
(24:22):
like not even paying attention. And then somebody comes up
and lifts me from behind, and I dropped the ball
over my head, just like the most obnoxious ship that
I thought you're going to say, you like stepped into
a Gatorade cooler and fell down. That's what I was
expecting that we got. We gotta get into the topic. Well,
I was gonna say, I was gonna say, people are
(24:42):
going to be mad at us, but I think any
of the people that liked just us talking have left. Yeah,
we'll take a break and when we come back, we
will be back with the greatest show boat. And we're back.
(25:04):
We're going to do the topic without fail. Guys. Right
after I say, Kurt. Also, if you haven't seen a
picture of him, don't know who he is. He looks
like he should be in the movie Everybody Wants Some
That's awesome. I needed to say. Okay, so we're doing
the greatest show boat. Did you tell them to kick
it off? Oh? Okay, sorry, I was truly um, there's
(25:29):
too many screens. You know, it's hard when there's so
many screens. It's hard to say, get out of here screen, Okay,
get this woman a stage, miss stand up? Miss is
so much show my god, i'ms on Zoom shows giving
it my all. Just all. Okay, So, Kurt, since you
are our guest, you uh, you start us off with
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your number three pick. We go in descending order, descending order,
number three pick. Was I supposed to have a top
three ready to go? Yes? Do you see you didn't
tell me that? I thought we said in a text
you said something like you gotta have nine. Okay, okay.
Do you want me to go and then maybe you
(26:12):
can maybe? Or do you just want to throw a
name out there, someone you like that's a show boat
and then we'll just talk about it. Yeah, let's start.
He's he's not my number one, so we'll start with
him just in case. Um deon deon Sanders the fucking
coolest ever. And what I love about him. You could
compare him to like TiO. Maybe one of you are
going to bring him up like a Terrell Owens. The
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thing with Tarrell Owens. Terrell Owens was more like it
was like mean spirited. When Treill did it, it was
like revenge. It was like there was an extra bit
of like TiO did, but there's an edge. Everything Dion
did was about showman. He was showing off his tiptoe
and he's like smiling, he's dancing, joyful. It was joyful,
playful and joyous and like almost silly, like the stuff
(26:57):
me and c J were talking about. So there was
something about him. I gravitated to Draft night. He from
the like from the second he started get go and
like even some of his sians annoying, like he did
some ship in baseball, I'm like all right, Like he
drew a dollar symbol in front of the home plate
at Nyankees beating him in like his first bats, and
Carlton Fisk like dott his face like fucking knocked that
off too, and he's like a little kid, you look
(27:19):
scared as hell. Carlton Fisk like getting his face and
he's like, I'm just sorry, looked really scared. I like it.
I like the have fun. But that's even more that
makes it more likable. So I love Dion and I
like I laughed onto him right away, even as a
young kid whose dad is very much a fan of
the like Harry standers, just hand the ball to the
ref guys, my dad loves that ship. So like I
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still in the mindset of like, oh, but I still
didn't want to be on Jersey once a week through
all of like junior high, Like I'm in my seventh
grade class picture wearing because it was my favorite shirt.
Um soon sure, that's a great one. Yeah it came out. Um.
Someone asked to Marvin Harrison Ones like, why don't you
(28:02):
ever celebrate when you score touchdowns? And he goes, because
that's my job. Um, and every white dad was like,
that's our hero as our hero, and even I was like,
that's his job. But it's like, if I scored a touchdown,
I would rip my clothes off, like I would go,
I would be I would make out with a cheerleader
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I would jump in the stands. I would be so thrilled.
That's the one I'm waiting for. Some. I want some.
I want a couple of NFL guys to try to
pretend like their woke and after a touchdown, I want
to see two guys grab each other by the helmet
and face mask to face mask like make out. I
want them to take their helmets off and do it. Okay, okay,
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Dion is a great one. I'm sure, I'm sure he'll
come up. I mean I have spent time around him
as an adult, like in his retirement years, and he
we have eaten a lot of meals together in a
green room and he is very kind and funny, but
is still that like you're in a room of people
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that are on TV and he is holding Core and
he is if what is it? You ball? You get
the call? Listen all you get the call. That's what
you want? You want Dion to call you because he's
cool and fun. Absolutely, I love it all right, Megan,
okay um. I wanted to pick a basketball, a baseball,
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and a football. I wanted to have representation from every sport,
and so my number three is the NBA player and
it's Allen Iverson. I just think of him as I guess,
like he's not his show boat is sort of less
of what Dion's was and more just like I am here,
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I am the best, I'm gonna do whatever I want
and fuck you. And it's like it's attitude, it's showmanship.
It's also his size, like I think it's not overcompensating,
but he is, like he's given you some extra because
he is kind of a little guy, and so he's
(30:11):
throwing some spice on there. And I just, yeah, I
like the way he dressed and carried himself and and
like practice that's obviously like so iconic. He knew what
he was doing, like you don't stubble stumble into one
of the most iconic like sayings in sports history. Like
he he was making a point and he knew how
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to like play up his point. Yeah, it's smart. It's
smart because he's like you're not going to immediately think
of Alan Iverson like this like running down like Kurt
Gibson or something. But every little stink guy, the fucking
stepping over Tyler you're talking about, like every little it's
the it's like he's a show off, but it's because
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he knows he's from like the streets, and he knows
he's that good, Like he's that much of a badass.
It's like I don't even have to show off. That's
how I'm showing up his he was so good at Like, yeah,
you when you go to a game, iversone was putting
up stats, but you knew something else was going to
happen because like in like that step over to this day,
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in my line of work, maybe the most used sports meme.
I mean, there's a crying Jordan, but like the stepover
is always photoshopped to signify like someone beating somebody else
at something. Right, Yeah, it's perfect, great one, great one.
So okay, so you said Dion, I want to say so,
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I don't know much about him other other than like, okay,
so it's Connor McGregor. Oh wow, I didn't even go there.
I didn't even I would have been no specific moments.
I just know, yeah, any time I've like, yeah, anytime
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i've ever I don't think i've ever seen him actually
fight a full fight. I've only just seen him at
press conferences. Yeah, footage of him fighting a bus um
and then his like dances and celebrations and so literally
I only know him as a performer. Yeah, so I'm
gonna say Connor McGregor, Yeah, that's a great one. I mean,
I mean yeah, because like what's the context? Is it
(32:23):
like show off? That like does it? Only one? He's
doing really good and he's under control and he's likable.
Otherwise it's like, yeah, McGregor could be like the biggest
show off of all time, but he's also like a
piece of it and like an asshole. So it's like
it doesn't matter. We just said show up and refresh me.
Why he has he what is his um bad stuff
that he's done. I believe assault and I don't know,
(32:47):
I don't know specific I mean technically an important distinction.
I think it's mostly just to get like property and men. Yeah,
it's just like I don't think he's up there beating women.
You maybe you maybe wouldn't want to like have him
nanny your kids, but actually he may be fine with
He's just like I think he's just one of those guys.
I think. I think the whole I get the impression
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the whole UFC is just like terrified up like psycho, Yeah,
what is your guy? What are your guys. Thoughts on
someone who is in UFC, your boxing and get in
trouble with the law for fighting, not not sexual, but
for like assault, like assault of other Does that hurt
(33:27):
their image? Yeah, I mean I know that like the military,
once you're like trained in certain things, you know, they
sit you down and they're like, hey, don't go home
to your town and kill somebody at a bar, because
you can't you know, conn airship. And so it's like
just because you have the tools to kill someone in
(33:50):
a and and box and fight, doesn't mean you can
use them outside of I mean, I find actual boxing
to be barbaric. So it's like I've been pro it
in a bar. Yeah, boxing here like stupid overall in
my opinion. But um so it doesn't necessarily hurt the image.
If anything, it probably helps the image. If by image
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we mean like selling ship with your name on it.
Like he's probably more populier than ever because he gets
in part fight right, But it's like a very scary,
dangerous thing, and it just proves that the sport and
masculinity and all that, and their brains may be bleeding,
you know, they may be actually having side effects of
c T e. I laughed when you said his name,
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because you know, Irish people, we have so few people,
you know, it's there's just not a lot of sports fame,
definitely not in sports, and so for the most name
is one to be like, you know sometimes like fighting Irish.
Why is that still out? It's like, well, look at us,
you know, like we we are all we always fulfill
(34:52):
the stereotype. We almost always do fresh and like I'll
take yeah, I'll take no. I'll take no sports heroes
over economic Like I don't need a sports hero. Oh
he's not my sports hero. But even when you just
like pop sports guy, even the way like friends that
we were talking about someone and they were like, um,
(35:12):
the hot one, the Irish one, and my friend and
I who are Irish, immediately go, you know, like we
have so few that it's like on the tip of
our talk and it's like we just like take who
we take who we have. But Colin Farrell is perfect.
He is so he's like he's fighting and drinking and
like her accents are funny, you know wild Gregory's It's
(35:40):
like you still sound funny. I know you're kill somebody,
but you you sound a little leop for Connie. You know, Um, okay,
should we take a break. Yeah, we'll take a break.
Will be back with our second and the first pick,
and we are back current, keep us rolling. He opened
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it up from me being a good way. I had
another guy in mind. Uh and then mccarnie, you opened
something up. So I'm gonna I'm gonna get this guy
out of the way now. Um, I forget his fucking name,
Boxer man or the bowler? The bowler guy? Who do
you think you are? Dang it? You took mine? Yes,
I know you tweeted about the the Tim character. Who
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do you think you are? I think you are? I
am the best show off ever. He straight up just
took the second thing from wrestling and would do that.
He would do the put motion to your crotch, and
he was like, yeah, bowling, he's like a he's like
a Will Ferrell sidekick. Like it doesn't even it seems
like a character. It's exactly an sl sketch of the character.
(36:48):
Yeah like that. It's funny. Though I can't remember his
last name, Pete Pete Webber is his name. Yeah, But
the guy Tim, what's his name, Tim Robinson? Tim Robinson
did a knockoff that character and it like just looks
like a normal guy now because that guy exists. That's
what I was gonna I was gonna let him do
that character. It would look like a completely fake guy,
but now he just looks real. I was gonna reply, like,
(37:11):
no discredit to Tim, but like, it's hard to be
as funny, if or funnier than than the original guy
that this is based on that real guy, because in
that video he does like a tagline and it's like, no, actually,
the one is. The actual one is way funnier, and
Tim is maybe the funniest person I've ever met. Tim
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is one of the finest people in the world. And
they clearly tried to mimic that specific line, who do
you think you are? I? Yeah? And you can hear
the line when they tried to mimic it, and it's
just not as good. It's just not as good as
who do you think you are? I Am? And I
haven't done research. There's a whole documentary I think that
where everyone found out about him. They did like a
thirty for thirty short, But just let's break down that
tag who do you Think you are? I Am? Was
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that intentional or not. It was absolutely not. No way
was that on purpose. He funked up, and I know
it because what do you think he was trying to say?
It's like you think I think he was trying to say,
like I'm like you think you think you're on that. Yeah,
he must have mixed up two phrases. There was one
(38:15):
phrase that started with who do you think you are?
And the one phrase that ended with I am, And
he mixed him up in his head. He couldn't decide,
and he said the bull. It's like when you see
someone you want to ask, you can't decided. You should
have how are you? Or like what's going on? And
he just like how are you going on? Combined him. Yeah,
this guy's classic. He's so fun and yeah, it's like
(38:37):
he is like the Lebron or Michael Jordan's of ESPN three.
You know it's because it's the context. It's like he's bony.
It's like Tiger Woods out there going suck it. It's like,
oh my god, he's staying stuck it on on the gulf.
His wife, her name's d D and she there's a video.
I mean, she's classic. She's classic. You could play her
(38:58):
in a movie. Big, big blond hair. Oh yeah, why
that's so rude and like there's I just I was like,
I want to know what his wife looked like, and
she looks like it. And the first thing that pops
up of her is he's bowling and she's flipping off
like ESPN whatever like dd CDs class like you guys,
(39:19):
like she's laughing. No, no, she's doing a joke. That's
like that's d d's humor is like, you know, which
isn't that? If c J was in the Dunk contest,
what I maybe like do the like eating out Vy
God first contest. Yeah, you're in the dunk I'm listen.
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I put myself in in every athlete we name their
spouse's position. Um yeah, okay, so yeah check out Pete
Webert is so good, so highly recommended. All right, okay,
I'm really excited for my number two. I listened to
I think there's a thirty for three podcast about episode
(40:01):
about him, and so you know, we're just plugging all
their products. Ricky Henderson and like Ricky Henderson is I
just I really honestly, I know there's other guys in
baseball who were like wacky, but like he became famous,
I think because he talked about himself in the third person.
You know, there's all these wild stories. There's some of
(40:24):
them are just like they haven't been substantiated, and kind
of the myth of him grew. But like there's a
story of him standing naked in front of the mirror,
like pretending to swing and just going where he's the best,
where he's the best, and it's like I'm love in
front of his Um. He didn't spend any of his
per diam money. He would like, you know, keep it
(40:46):
in the envelope, and then if one of his kids
did something good or got like a good grade, he
would give them an envelope of perdam money. So he's
like a cool, fascinating guy. He never really he didn't
ever do anything wrong. This is joy fall as well too,
Like he just loved baseball. Of the episode about him
is when he goes down to the minor leagues and
(41:07):
like independent leagues and was like a father, a mentor,
like men are like crying weeping about being on a
minor league baseball team with Ricky Henderson just because he
was so incredible and could still really fucking play at
such a age. Um is Ricky the one who does
who flips? Or no, No, that was Auzie Smith. I
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think I considered him, and it's a cool choice. I
was thinking baseball. I'm like, I don't know what kind
of griffy I guess, but not really like Junior now
is doing some back flips. Maybe it's it's hard to
find anybody that's really stands out, but Ricky was at
the top of the list of baseball guys I was
considering because of what you're talking about, Like, it's not
(41:50):
a bunch of outlandish stuff. It's like every little slide
and pop up and Clapp's fast and there's little energy
behind all it. It's like, yeah, I'm excited, I'm having fun.
Let's go. Um he's just like he looks like he's
on speed the entire time. He's um. I think he's
like the greatest base stealer of all time and considered
(42:12):
one of the greatest leadoff hitters of all time. So
he's bad. I mean, it's it's like Major League the
movie stole characters based on people. He is the prototype
for is it Wesley Snipe? Wesley Snipe guy the first one? Okay,
And so yeah, he's just fast and fun. And he
(42:33):
says that he does not speak like if you were like,
what's what do you want for dinner, he'd be like
Ricky wants. He says he does not do that. He
he talks in the third person when he's trying to
get on himself, like come on, Ricky, do the right thing.
Come on, Ricky, step up like that. It's a it's
a motivator, and that it got way blown out of
proportion that he did it. But I don't either way,
I like it, I think, especially in that context if
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that's really what he does, like that's cool. Come on, Kurt,
come on you hurt. I'll do that. I've done that
in my head. I still do that. Apparently this is
a message he left to a manager that he was
about to be playing for Kevin. This is Ricky calling
on behalf of Ricky. Ricky wants to play baseball. Nike
or some or a brand didn't like embrace that. I
(43:18):
think he was like some people. A lot of people
didn't like him because he was so flashy, um and
he was new and like stealing basses was still not
cool and sexy, and he like just started making it
a thing and he could just do it like eighty
times a season or something, and everyone was like kind
of scared of him. I forgot in the ways that
people weren't ready for he. Um when he path when
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he got the record for all times stolen bases, he
gave a speech like it was an award show. Thanks
God and his mother. Um yeah, I mean he is
yeah great, he yeah, he's fun. Alright. Uh. Side note
(44:03):
to one of our friends, Trevor, he has he bought
a fake uh Ricky Henderson jersey from China and it
says Ricky hendis Ron And um, I remember says Ricky Henderson.
It says hendis Ron and I and I don't know
that much about baseball. We all know that. And I
(44:23):
remember just staring at it for like hours within hanging out,
and then I'm like, hey, man, do you know that
it says hendis Ron on the back year jersey goes,
oh yeah, I got it from one of those bootlegs
sites in China. So d I want to buy everything
from those scared it just takes from you. I would
trust that instinct. I would trust the scary and yeah
(44:46):
yeah yeah all right. Um, so my number two pick.
So this is a guy who actually doesn't in his
play or did it in his like the way he plays,
and I think it's I would consider a show about
Jason Williams White Chocolate he was on. Yeah, Like it's
like it's as we were talking about pick up. His
(45:08):
play itself is so silly. Yeah, but it's like you're
gonna hit it off your elbow, you show yeah, And
I guess that, yeah, show off and show about the
definition partly is like completely unnecessary and for the the
simple simple purpose of showing off. Um, Like I remember,
(45:29):
like the greatest kind of street ball highlight in NBA
history is probably the rookie game where Jason Williams throws
it off his elbow and if you like calculate all
of it, really didn't do any didn't trick anyone. No,
no one was trying to stop him. If anything, it's
like confusing. You're like, why did he do that? And
(45:50):
that's like altering that's altering the defense amount. But yeah, um,
and I feel like his coach is probably like, yeah,
being like you're a showboat or something showing off out there.
He just gave him the ball. You don't have to
do it five different ways. No, he one of the
best clips. One of my favorite that's one of my
favorite highlight reels to watch on YouTube for foremost White
Chocolates like to go to And one of the best
(46:11):
clips of it is when he crosses up Gary Payton
and Gary Payton makes his face like, oh, Gary Payton's
like blown away that William's broken down like that that
he's he's he got beat so bad that he's enjoying
it and he's looking back up Williams like, oh my god.
So for someone like Gary Payton to be blown away
with how much you're showing off you because off it
(46:36):
was John Timper, like the the o G like let's
show off, let's show out. When I was doing my
ute research for this episode, um, all of the articles
were written by men who were so mad at these athletes,
Like every headline was like the biggest show boating asshole
(46:58):
donkey boot Lutton it like they were everything was mad,
and then they'd be like this guy could be a
good player if he would just stop his bullshit, like
so angry at these players, so angry, and it's like
fun people, You're like all of these is like all
of famers, awesome cool guys. Yeah, yeah, it's white guys,
lazy white guys who were like missed the days when
(47:21):
good enough bad mad white sports writers who can't dunk.
It's like, okay, I mean you're hearing report. Okay. Yeah.
The classic white dad thing is like that guy shows
off too much. He's always doing this razzle dazzle. It's like,
why are you watching sports to watch someone do their job,
like watch clean cups and backboard usage, Like let's have
(47:45):
some fun. Okay, Um, shoot, we've already taken two breaks. Um,
so I'm going first, Yes, so Kurt, how we do
it is? The guests is our big grand finale? Oh god, Okay,
I have one on Norble mention and it's Babe Ruth.
Just to call your shot is so bold. I think
(48:07):
just point and be like it's going. It's crazy candy
bar and and and that is a show off. That
is a show off to have you on candy bar. Um. Okay,
So gosh, you guys are gonna be mad at me
um for how I did this. But my number one
pick is just wide receivers, just so just and so
(48:31):
that too. That like initially came to mine outside of
Dion R t O and chat Ocho Sinko. I mean,
so I guess if I had to pick, I would
pick Ocho Sinko because he changed his name to Ocho Sinko,
which was his number UM and legally did it and
now has since changed it back, and like, you know,
(48:55):
a famous celebrator, a famous sort of like trash talker,
really fun, really fast, cool good um and on a
team that like never really was able to get him to,
Like he made his own national stage in Cincinnati, like
it was just like okay, everyone, here's boring and all,
we have a skyline Chili, I'll dance into your hearts.
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And he did, and I follow him on Twitter and
he's still he acts like this on Twitter, like it's
just who he is to just want to interact and
like have fun and be raw and be real. Like
sometimes he is apologizing like he's just someone he's just
saying like thinking and saying everything, and so sometimes he
(49:38):
has to go, oh, yeah, I shouldn't have done that,
but he just is. So he is like a movie
wide receiver. To me, he's that's a perfect pick. I
feel I was kicking myself for not even considering, ever
thinking of him. He was fantastic He was one of
the best celebrators of all time in the NFL. He
had so much fun everything the name changing. But one
thing people forget or people don't pay attention to go
(50:00):
back and watch some of the footage of him. He
worked as hard as anybody. Yeah, he posted his ass
man and he blocked and he liked he ran clean
fucking Crisp ro out. He was like working people. So
he worked really hard and people only paid attention to
the to the outlandish stuff. But like he always delivered.
He rarely made a stink like a t O would
in terms of like give me the ball more like
(50:21):
I think he did some probably, but like never it
was never that significant. He never went full like Antonio
Brown or anything. But he was fun and he worked hard,
and there was joy in it. There was joy in
the celebrating and the showing off because he clearly just
loved it so much. And it's just like he just
he had that same Ricky Henderson energy like I want
to run and I want to catch on. I'm moving down.
Cut this way and cut that way, let's go, and
(50:43):
yes we did it. It's like just that like they're
on speed kind of energy because they just loved playing
that much. I love following his love life too. He's
dated some reality stars. I saw, I saw him and
I think her name is Eden. She was on she
was on one of the reality shows. I saw them
fighting out um in Lucas Oil Stadium at the super Bowl.
(51:06):
They were having like they're having a lover squirrel inside.
He's also one of those guys who, like, you know,
he's only ever been that guy like he might he
might actually just be stupid, you know what I mean,
Because he's only ever just been like a charming guy
who's like a freak athlete. So like he's there's an
energy to him where he's like I feel like he's
very like still there's a degree of like he's he's
(51:31):
a little stilted, you know what I mean. He's probably
not that mature. Maybe not mature is the better phrase.
And this supposed to stupid, but like he's probably just
like a google. I bet he's still in playing shape. Yeah,
he's like sprinting on things. It's like you don't need
to be sprinting that hard, Chad. Yeah that him and
t O both look in the same shape they did
(51:52):
when they Yeah, Wow, good for them. Not me. Yeah,
I mean I can't stay the same shape for for women,
it's probably wedding shape, you know that start playing shape
and okay, c J, give us you number one. You
got an honorable men cheese, I do, but I don't
want to take him. Well, let me say, uh, Tara
(52:12):
Owens was one of them, and then yeah, Kurt took
Pete Webber from me. So I used to my pick um.
Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali is just yeah, I mean, I
think greatest like Showman, showboat, most confident athlete I've ever seen.
And granted, like we I didn't get to experience his
prime in real time, and so I'm just watching like
(52:33):
documentary footage, but just like him dancing in the ring
all the like some of them, probably has the most
iconic sports photography because he was almost putting it on
for the camera. He was almost like striking the pose.
Remember there's this one story, and I think I've said
on the podcast before where there was a time when
he knocked a guy out and the guy hadn't fallen
(52:55):
like completely yet and he could illegally hit him again
to make sure, but Ali backed off to watch him fall.
For the dramatics like the dramatics of it all. It's
like to me, that is like that is the greatest,
um like literally the yeah, he's the greatest. Well and
he was he like as I was doing Ricky Henderson research.
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That's his idol, you know, like he is so many.
He was a trailblazer for the show boots to come,
you know, or like I want to be like Mohammad Ali,
like I wouldn't be the greatest, and even just declaring
yourself the greatest is his showman ship. Yeah, and he
met the Beatles, huge greatest show up ever, the Beatles.
(53:39):
So Mohammad Ali, al right, bring us home here with
number one. Pick you're fregatting, you're freaking stull mine. It's
of course Muhammad Ali is number one. It's like the
lazy choice because he's like actually clearly the greatest ever
at it. Um So that was my number one. Yeah,
just like the dancing in the in the showmanship in
the ring is one thing, but like his like poetry
(54:01):
of his interviews was insane. But the way he was
like his own hype man and just like he gets going,
he's like a pastor up in the church going crazy.
Everybody's losing their mind listening to him because he's just
so he gets this energy and you building, building to build,
and it's all it's all like rhymes and there's like
there's a there's a beat to it. It's like almost
like a rap, and there's like it was insane. He
(54:23):
was like the most interesting creative, like outlandish. Yeah, and
he played it up with he had like characters in
his life. Sorry I stopped you from saying something, but
the way you like played it up with like Howard
Cosell and and Don King, like he like played into
that like played characters. Yes, he must have. Yeah, there
must have been of a like, oh, I'm gonna go
(54:44):
a little actra on this, you know what I mean,
Like there's a there had to have been some self
awareness there to still go out and be that good
every time you fought, you have to be a little
self aware of like, oh, this is part of it.
This is like we're building hype here, We're we're selling tickets, etcetera.
So this genius try to save it a little bit
with this lackluster finished with some honorable mentions to think
about right the back. You got the Brandy Chastain, you
(55:07):
got the Rapino with her. But that also opens up
like all the male soccer players to like that's like
every single goal they're sliding on the Yeah soccer, sorry
we forgot you, m m. But like they all get
to do it, may do do it, So no one
(55:28):
really stands out outside of that those two Rapino and
chest Stain. There's no other moments that I can think of,
like that one time that one guy did this well,
like an Italian or a Spaniard. That's a level of like,
you know, those are shown, come on there showing in
the streets. You know, they're just yeah, but there's you know,
(55:50):
who else is I thinking about? Um, there's there's a
lot of subtle show off that I love, Like Steph
Curry and Aaron Rodgers are the two I think of most.
Like show off a lot, but never big. Aaron Rodgers
is always doing that little discount double check, the check
of the belt, and he's always doing the cutest like
(56:10):
first downs when he gets the first down, that thing
that all white quarterbacks do whenever they run for one.
That's cute, little finger. Um. But Philip Rivers, by the way,
he's a little show boat. Yeah, the biggest trash chalkers
in the game. He nuts, he screams, and he doesn't curse.
He doesn't curse. Probably, I really do wonder how the defense,
(56:37):
which is not polably yesterday, how the defense likes this
like old white religious man. I bet they bet when
he's on your team, it's like pretty fun. I bet
it's pretty fun. Know when he's on it's like Baker
Mayfield like yeah, Baker, I'm sort of just ignoring him,
Like c J will be like, let's go fill up,
(56:57):
and I'm like, no, we're not. Really. Do you know
where there's other guys out there, you know we can
focus on them. Yeah, Kurt tell us a little bit
about the movie. Yeah, thanks guys, movies called Derek's Dead.
I made it twenty nineteen. Bunch of friends helped out,
got some help with these producers. I want to shout
(57:18):
out Lenny Barstop and Aaron Brown, Thank you guys. And yeah,
we just made it for fun funny. It's a comedy.
It's about the plot again here, I gotta remember the pitch.
It's about two former best friends who currently hate each other,
but they're forced to reconnect when their third former best friend,
who they also hate, dies and tasks these two idiots
(57:42):
who hate each other with spreading his ashes as like
his last wish for These guys are kind of forced
to reconnect over this other guy they don't even like Diane,
and then it gets weirder from there. Yeah. I know
one of the guys is Joe McAdam, who is our
last guest. Um, it's very funny. I know people said
that they enjoyed him, so yeah, check it out like
(58:03):
you guys. You guys kind of did on a small
budget and went out there and made something that was
really really funny last year. And yeah, super super funny.
It was fun to do. I'm very proud of it
and I'm I'm happy it's coming out. It is just
available for pre order right now on iTunes, but if
you can swing it, it makes us look really cool,
so pre orders would be tight. Okay, that's what preorder,
(58:24):
That's what we're gonna do. And I was dead. Derek's
dead And I'm not even saying this. I hope no
one is listening to this podcast with their child named Derek.
I'm not saying this to be funny, but it does
sound like it could be a holiday film being around
people from your past has a lot of reconnecting past
(58:45):
and letting go certain things forgiveness connection. I should point
out that um, I named this guy Derek. The guy
that's dead is Derek Anderson. That's why named him. I
specifically named him after a guy. In high school. He
lost the state championship to the team whose quarterback was
Derrick Anderson, who went on to play in the NFL
(59:06):
for years. He had really easing with the Browns and
he backed up Cam Newton for years in Carolina. That
counts a nice guy. But he called me a bitch
in the in the state championship game. Well, here's what happened.
I was such a like show off, playful guy in
in high school football. I would small top with the
other guys and I try to be their buddy. And
there was one time where some guy I thought I
was cool with was like hit me in the jaw
(59:28):
and like jabbing me and punching me in the ribs.
And I was like, what's going on? Man? I thought
we were cool. I was literally confronting him like that, like,
what's up? Man? I thought we were buddies. Are you okay?
But Derrick Anderson, future NFL quarterback witnessed that, and he
thought I was trash talking, and I was like, hey,
he was. He was acting crazy. I was telling him
to calm down. And then Derrick Anderson said, you calmed down, bitch. Well,
(59:49):
I mean when you said had a very good season
with the Browns, It's like, I don't recall that. So
I don't think I recall that. Derrick Anderson shut up,
and I recalled that. Derek Anderson and the NBA one
of Jordan Brand's first NBA players. Um, all right, well, Kurt,
thank you so much. Where can people find you? Twitter
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all right, you can find me at at CJ Toldano
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