October 24, 2024 • 40 mins
In this conversation, Minnesota Tim and Tony explore various topics ranging from the concept of ASMR to the dynamics of sports commentary, particularly focusing on the recent Eagles vs. Giants game. They discuss the implications of statistics in sports, the narrative of revenge games, and the performance of the Eagles. The conversation also touches on the upcoming games and concludes with a discussion on the WNBA Finals and the market dynamics surrounding it. In this conversation, the hosts discuss the marketing potential of winning teams, particularly in the WNBA, and how player recognition can impact a team's success. They also analyze the recent performance of the Minnesota Vikings against the Detroit Lions, debating the significance of losses in sports and the skepticism surrounding Minnesota sports teams.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
We are back again.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh sorry, did I mess up?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Tony?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
When you give me the full blown intro?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
How's it going?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
But what's that? What's the ASMR? I think is what
it's called people who like listen to whispering and like
soft sounds or something like that. I may have just
made up what asm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Are a SMR? I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah, I've like, I've heard of it on the side,
I've never like actually looked it up. And I know
it's like a thing. I don't even know if I'm
saying it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
The right acronym ASMR A as MR, ASMR as ARM.
Watch this if you are stressed, let me take care
of you. Who websites you think?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What is a SMR? Mean and slang?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
SMR stands for anonymous sensory mariy deane response There typically
refers to the tingly feeling that travels from the head downward,
some experience and response to certain sounds, feelings, or descriptions.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So you're getting some good as MR from this, Bud.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
There's a tingle in my head, which head? Come on,
buddu budd with one two eyes. Dick starts whispering.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
We're not even a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Two.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Our dicks are already out whisper.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
What our dicks are playing telephone?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh wowsers.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
There. Oh he peaked early today.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's a sign of things to come.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Blow our load early.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Speaking of those.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Kind of discussions, I run across a video and we're
going to dive into the vikings, and he goes in
a bit here because that's what we do. But I
ran into a video. I saw a video online and
I just think it's something you'd enjoy. I think this
person said this with us in.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Mind a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Stats to like bikinis.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Look at.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Because of their defense, specifically defensive Dannar Lovekey's face, I
feel like, is the perfect face for that reaction. Could
you hear what he said? He said, stats are a
lot like bikinis. They show some things, but they don't
reveal at all.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's okay, I don't think that. That's not that doesn't
quite warrant the like, Oh I can't laugh at this.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, I just think it was a surprising take for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's you said, it's a surprising taker.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, Like that's you don't hear that every day?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Really you turn on ESPN Countdown and Bloomer during his
two minute drill stats are a lot like bikinis rumbling, stumbling. No,
it doesn't do it for you.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
No, that's kind of tame for.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Booger McFarland.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I like Booger.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Booger's good. You like Booger. Yeah, Oh, I don't think
I've ever heard of a worse analyser. Analysair there you go, yeah,
go again, take it. I don't think I've ever heard
any worse analys in than from Booger McFarland.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Booker McFarland's analysis is like bikinisch was a little, but
it doesn't give you the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
It's true. I remember a few years ago when he
was doing the Monday Night football thing. He had the
chair like.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
On the sideline the boogermobile, and it was the Minnesota
Vikings Seattle Seahawks game, and the Vikings picked off Russell
Wilson and went off a Vikings helmet went into the
Vikings defender's hands and they ran it in for a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And he goes, wow, this is amazing play because things
never happened like this for the Minnesota Vikings. They never
good they never get good breaks, just remember the Minneapolis
miracle that happened against them.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I will say him and I think Jason Witten was
there for a year or two. They were terrible. Yeah,
we're terrible. Was as color analysts.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah sounds funny.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Give me one second. Let me figure out this dog situation.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You got a whiny dog, got a whiny anus. He
said he'd take a poop on his carpet. Yeah, they're
dump down.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
There right before.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, I cleaned it up.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Don't look at you, all right?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
We leaving that in.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm okay with leaving it in. Sure, I wouldn't do it.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
She found the sock, so she's good for two minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Where's the sock?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It was on the floor, sun socks.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is it a boy dog or a girl dog?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It's a girl dog.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Girl dog.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She identifies as a girl cat.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Though funny.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I could ask a random question, but I don't think
I'll do it right now. Let's try to keep this pg.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thirteen.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Okay, give it. I see the wheels churning in there.
There's smoke coming out of your ears.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Do you make any animal noises in bed?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Animal noises?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Animal noises? You bark.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Talk like Scooby Doo when I call him eat a
big sandwich in one bite.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Scooby snack. I think every guy does anyway.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You don't think so.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, the Eagles, they defeated the lowly New York Giants.
Daniel Jones got benched. It's not like bikinis. You know,
stats don't typically reveal the whole story revolving around Daniel Jones.
What's your reaction, say, Kawan Barkley revenge game pounced on
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his former team. Do you buy into the whole revenge
game narrative or is that a little overrated deal?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, I definitely buy into it. I think there's always
those games that teams have circled on the calendar, you know,
the following year. I think, you know, just like last week,
the Niners and the forty are the Chiefs and the
forty nine ers playing Super Bowl rematch, So that's gonna
be a bigger game whether they're are playing the Panthers,
you know. So I definitely buy into that narrative. I
(08:04):
don't think you can let it, you know, affect your
your weekly schedule, your routine, all that kind of stuff.
But you definitely have games you look forward to more so, No,
it's finally good to see the Eagles get like a
dominant win. They have not one of those and probably
a year and a half where they've just gone out
and add another slow start, which that's just it's typical
(08:26):
now for a Sirianni team, They for whatever reason, just
those first two three four drives in the in the
first quarter can't really seem to do much or if
and when they do, it's you know, there's a Jalen
Hurts turnover or just something happens. The defense isn't playing well.
So it was good to see an all round performance.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
From for someone that doesn't follow Eagles reporters or the
Eagles content on social media anywhere. I should have known.
I got to come on the spot. Did they even
play this weekend? Like I didn't see anybody talking about
the Eagles this weekend, and the Eagles are to that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Point where I only see them online.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
If Nick Sirianni does something stupid, right, if there's a
stupid play call, well then it brings out all the
national media folks discussing it talking about it. But if
they're going to pounce the new York Giants twenty eight
to three. The reason why I need to ask you
because nobody was talking about Nick Sirianni's win. They just
want to He's in that like state of his NFL
(09:36):
coaching career where it's kind of like an offensive lineman.
People are only talking about them if they're doing something
completely stupid and if they have a nice block boem,
who really cares.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, it's they had like I said, they had that
complete performance. It was a very boring game. It was
twenty eight to three, so it's not like they dropped
forty fifty on them. It was just high scoring the
whole time. They went up fourteen to nothing. Giants kicked
the field goal and then they scored.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like you said, they started slow, they did.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
They didn't score their first their first points till a
little bit into the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh ok.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, So I think they had three drives with where
they punted in the first quarter and then maybe two
of those were three and outs, so it Yeah, it
was a slow start. They got going in the second corner.
Sekon had one of his three just big runs. I
think it was a fifty yard or ye, but fourteen
(10:33):
nothing Giants kicked the field goal, and then they scored
fourteen points to kind of put it away in the
second half. But their defense played well. They only gave
up one hundred and nineteen yards to the Giants, So
it was just all around kind of complete dominance, which
which is good. And then I don't know, a good
thing people are saying A good thing came out of
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the game too, where Nick Sirianni goes up to Saquon
at the end of the game and says, hey, man,
you're thirteen yards away from your career high. I'd really
like to see you get that, especially against your former team.
And uh, he says, but I'm pulling out the rest
of the starters. Do you want to stay in? And
Sekwon goes, now, let the young says something to the
effect of like let.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The young bucks go out there.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
The young dogs eat so something. Stooby Doo comes in
with an Eagles helvet.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Wear number one. It's got the tail between his legs,
do on the back of his Shaky's hiking the ball,
Velmo's blocking.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Velma's the tight end, Fred's QB one. Scrappy is the
third down running back.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Daphne's the cheerleader on the side.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So yeah, it was, like I said, it was a
good kind of just all around, all around game from them.
So I would like my head coach to maybe not
know end game my running back's career high in yards
and trying to just get him that. I feel like
that's kind of like, uh, I don't know, let's just
(12:08):
play the game. Let's not worry about those kind of
stats and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But I'm sure someone relaid that to him. I'm sure
he wasn't looking up the stats. I'm sure it was
someone inside the Eagles organization that relaid that to him.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I can see how that's a good you know, people
see that as like, hey, he's a player's coach, he
takes care of his guys, that kind of thing. So
I'm not going to complain too much about that. But yeah,
I mean it was. It was finally a good dominant win. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The Minnesota Vikings. I can't remember whenever Adrian Peterson's rookie
year was. He had like two hundred and ninety six
yards and there's just a few plays left offensively, and
he needed one more yard to have the single game
rushing record, and children throws him back out of the field.
Of course the fans are yelling for it because the
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fans know about it. And then he throws him back
out of the field. He gets like one more yard
on the final play of the game. It gets a
single game record. But I'm sure rad Children's had no
idea what that stat record was before the game. I'm
sure it was a team pr play where like, hey,
by the way, Nick Sirianni Sakwan Barkley is thirteen yards
away from his singles game record, you want to put
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them in the game.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to let him know about it. So I
don't have no problem with that.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, but I feel like that's like a Madden video
game thing, like, yeah, I'm just gonna put I'm gonna
leave Jalen Hurts in and throw his thirteenth touchdown pass
of the game. Yeah, in Madden, I don't necessarily, I don't.
I don't know. Maybe it's a little bit kind of
just old school or whatever. You're old school, get an
old soul with me.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You backpacked up hill both ways.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
To school, twenty miles both ways in.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The negative wind, child conditions in sideways.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like I said, if I'm complaining about my coach knowing
about my running backs career yardage for a game, then
you know, hey, I think it was a good day.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Then well, your team is four and two, the Washington
Commanders are five and two. Those are gonna be some
good games coming up. Yeah, And now it's gonna be
interesting because I don't know what Jaden Daniels's status is
for the Washington Commanders moving forward. He missed three fourths
of his last game, and Marcus Mariota came in and
dominated the Carolina Panthers. But Philadelphia Eagles Washington Commanders he
(14:29):
played twice, once in Week eleven and then another one
in Week sixteen.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's gonna be a fun one to watch.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So I feel a lot better about this Eagles team
than I did two weeks ago. The only thing that
I'm I guess I would still be a little bit
concerned about. They beat two bad teams and the Browns
and the Giants to get to four and two. So
they squeaked by the Giant or they squeaked by the
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Browns wins a win, and they they dominated the Giants.
But they're they're getting healthy. They got their three stars
back a couple of games ago with a J. Brown
DeVante Smith and Lane Johnson. So they did kind of
hit some of those early season injury struggles, which may
kind of correlate with them getting off to a to
(15:22):
a slow start too and two start, but they're getting
some momentum now, which I think is good. So yeah,
I think I think the Commanders are the Commanders are
a good team. They still have a bad defense, so
I think those two games could be kind of just
high scoring games. And then yeah, the ribs things with Daniels,
like that's that's something that's not going to just be gone.
(15:42):
He's he made. I think it's all that he's weak
to weak, but rib stuff, those things linger.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The vegans are kind of doing the Sorry. Also, I
thought you stopped.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No, I was still talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Sided jump in.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Sorry, the start of your sentence interrupted the beginning of
my sentence. Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The end of your sentence was interrupted by the beginning
of my sentence.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The beginning of your sentence interrupted the end of your sentence,
the middle of my sentence.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Wow, you're you're finishing up.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I was wrapping it up.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Two minutes. What did you say?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
No, I was finished.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, the floor is yours. Whatever you want to say
I'll just shut up.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Welcome to the Tony Lebarbara Podcast featuring Minnesota two, where
all we talk about is Vikings and Eagles.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Did you see the w NBA Finals finished?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The backlash from oh.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Man Garbage told you the Links we're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
The ref stole it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
They did. The w NBA Commissioner comes out with a
New New York Liberty skyline dress after the game. That's
a little sketch balls.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, so I've heard people. I didn't watch the game,
but I've heard the backlash. I've read about it and whatnot. Like, what,
it's a game five. You already have the New York
Liberty there, you know, I get New York, bigger market,
all of that kind of stuff. What does the WNBA
gain by having the Liberty win in that situation over
(17:31):
the Lynx.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
A Lot one. They're the first WNBA franchise established. There's
only twelve one, but they're the first one established twenty
something years ago and they've never won one. They've got
the star power, so it's easy to market. You got
Brianna Stewart, you got Sabrina who participated in the men's
three point contest last year, and then you got the
(17:53):
big Center Jones I think is their name. They're a
New York team, which is a big deal always in
any market. I'm sure that MLB isn't complaining that it's
Yankees Dodgers versus Brewers Indians, Right, So all of those
things factor into play. And then you saw that. I
(18:14):
get all that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I get all that. It's they're already in the finals though,
they're already able to market a New York team.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But if they were in the finals, so you can
market even further.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
But how I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But there's ways, like commercials following the game, Like if
they win the finals, though, they can put it on
poster boards everywhere that they were the twenty twenty four
WNBA champions. You can market it, commercial it, do all
those things. Sponsorships might roll in a little bit more
because they won. I think it means a lot. I
(18:49):
don't know, I mean, and then I was gonna say
something else, but then you interrupted me. I can't remember
what it was. Oh, Plus they okay about it this
way I thought of it if you were an entity,
and I don't necessarily blame the WNBA for doing this.
If I was the WNBA, I would do the same thing.
(19:10):
It just happened against the Minnesota team. So I care
a little bit more. If you were an entity, if
you were the Tony La Barbera podcast, and he lost
forty million dollars per year, would you try your absolute
best and do anything you could do to manipulate it
a little bit and help your entity have some success
(19:34):
and cut down on the forty million dollar loss. Which
you know, the WNBA is like a subsidized product from
the NBA.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
NBA owners basically own it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think they do own it, but and apparently they're
fired up and tired of the WNBA losing all this money.
So you got all this pressure mounting from billionaires about
the WNBA losing all this money. They're losing forty million
dollars a year, even with Caitlin Clark being this phenom
and drawing more eyes than ever before, and yet you're
still loosing all this money.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So I would do anything I could do and to
try to make my aunt to do succeed.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So if I was in if I had my own podcast,
and I was in a podcast tournament to determine the
best podcast, and I was already the best podcast going
into it, and I had marketability, I had the name recognition.
I you know, talked about the NFL, which is going
(20:34):
to get me viewers and listeners and downloads and all
that stuff. And I made it to the finals of
this podcast competition. I don't think winning it isn't going
to get me one hundred more downloads or a thousand
more downloads. I don't think there's a big difference as
far as this New York team getting to the game
(20:56):
five and winning it and then what you can do
after that. Like you said, you've already got this once
in a blue like once in a generation starr in
Caitlin Clark like, I just don't see the correlation of
rigging it for a New York team to win when
you're already in the game a Game five of the
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WNBA finals.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Hmm, well, I guess we just agree to disagree.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Then, But I get your points. I do like see
how how you can go through some of that stuff.
I just don't see it being like of substantial value
as opposed to Minnesota the Links winning and then you
get to market some of the Links players, you get
to do some of that same stuff. Yeah, you may
(21:42):
not have like you know, oh, it's the you're promoting
New York against you know, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But right, I think it's more so about the players
on the team too.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Now, I think there's something to Brianna Stewart and Sabrina
winning a title versus I could only really name. I
couldn't have a single player in the links before the
before the playoffs started. Now, I watched a few games
of the class like the color she can play, Courtney Williams,
she can't play.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
She's garbage again, he stinks.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But but aren't they already established in that sense of
you know, I mean Sabrina and Escu, Like, she's been amazing.
She's been like a kind of household name for a
long time, even going back to her Oregon days.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Lucy Lee for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, eating ice cream at eight years old. So I
don't know, I've heard that. That was just kind of
the first thought that I that I had with it
is what what what does the w A NBA game
with with that? I mean, maybe I'm way off.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But yeah, No, that's an interesting discussion to have, and
it's fun to It's a fun back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Zig and a zag, Yeah exactly zag when everyone else is.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, it's a fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Minnesota Vikings lost the Detroit Lions five to one, five
to one record falls to five and one. They lost
thirty one twenty nine donald one touchdown, one pick up
ten zero down twenty one to ten. Took the lead
again twenty nine to twenty eight. Detroit Lions. Field goal
wins the game, seals the deal. Apparently the guy that
(23:25):
kicked the field goal was a brick salesman, just like
like a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And those are one of my favorite stories.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, pull them off the street to kick a game
with a field goal.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
He was selling insurance last week. He had to request
a day off from State Farm to come down to
First Bank State.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They pulled this guy off the streets. It was. It's
a homeless man at the hall, bless shelter, kicking field goal,
kicking cardboard boxes into a tunnel.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I was kicking field goals for the Lions.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
He was around one of those fires underneath and overpass
and the GM walks Till walks up to him, Hey, Bud,
get your cleats.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
He's got the big hairy beard and boks go down
on the beard.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
He's got the one bar face mask.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Sorry, it's all I can afford. Right now, he's got
one shoe.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
He still has his good kicking shoe.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
He's not wearing a shirt.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's not wearing his shirt, but he still has the
football pants on.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Just wearing shoulder pads, a little kicker shoulder pads.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He has to go back to his tent. Yeah, let
me get my belongings.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
He just picks a All right, I got him.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Do you think you'd be a good homeless man that
this thought before?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think i'd be a good home I think.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'd be a very good homeless man. I've thought about
this before.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The pick up Yeah, I don't know why homeless people
don't do this. Maybe they do and they just don't
know it. You know, the pickup counters. You can't do
this anymore at Jersey Mice. They ask you for your
name and then they have to hand it to you.
But they used to used to just put it right
up there and you could walk in, grab it and
walk out. But Chapole, they put it right up there.
They put it right on the pickup ragging. If you're homeless, taken,
(25:26):
just walk in there and pick it up, walk out.
No it we'll know, you know. But you're hearing a
little bun and no wear a hat, find a little deodorant,
don't stink so bad, and you could get away easily.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think I'd be a tremendous homeless man. If I
was homeless man.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You could definitely eat well, you could do that very well.
I always thought like I would find a brand new
dumpster and I would just like trick out that dumpster,
you know, mm hmm. That would just be my house.
I could just like roll it anywhere I wanted to go. Always,
I always thought too, if I was a homeless person,
I would like, I guess I would have to walk,
so take me a long time.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But like I need to call stew sequits for that.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Why doesn't every homeless person just like live at the beach, Yeah,
like great Weather.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's like they're homeless or something.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Like they don't have any money to get places.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, it's like something in their brain must be a
little off.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Waking up at the crack of dawn, go in, steal
Starbucks coffee from the line, get and I'm ready to.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Go for this. It's like a nice life. I don't
know why they complain so much. Why do we see
homeless people just complained, wherever you want ocean side view?
Why don't they put that up on zillows if they
can get something for that. How much square feet you
(27:00):
got in that place, bud America?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
What's the square footage? America?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I can go where I want, No bills, no mortgage,
no debt.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
What's the electric in the sun? I gotta pay my
utility though? Is that city water or country water? That's
the ocean?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
How do you decipher the salt? How do you get
the salt out of there?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
You got in that place?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah? The one problem I do have is that sometimes
the wheel on the garbage can squeaks a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
The one problem I have with being homeless is what
you get so many homeless people's comments in here in
this episode.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You don't know how hard it is.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
How how's that square footage?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
So coming coming out of that game then, because that
that felt like a playoff game to me. I was
kind of watching that in the background. It honestly like
felt like an NFC championship game. Crowd was rocking back
and forth. It was. It was a very good game.
So how do you feel coming out of it? Like
(28:37):
I said, we were already talking last week, you weren't
a bad five and zer like, you've got some really
good teams, and then that's probably the Lions. They're definitely
the best team in the NFC. Maybe Sons, the Chiefs
are the best team in the NFL. Yeah, question Mark
you feel Do you feel good? Yeah? You hung You
(28:59):
hung them. You very well could have won that game, right,
you know it's not like it was a blowout anything
like that. So how do you feel coming out of that?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
There's a few things I feel. One My first reaction
was they're never gonna go twenty No. One loss is
one loss, not a big deal? All right, big deal? Okay,
one loss against the best team in the NFC right now, Okay,
who cares? Two.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
My second reaction was, you can't lose two in a row.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You got a short week, got Rams on Thursday night,
Gotta beat him. And not that five and two is
the end of the world, but it can so quickly
spiral out of control. And Sam Darnold has been awesome
to the first few weeks of the season, but we've
started to see him come back to earth a little bit.
One touchdown, one pick against the lines. He had like
one hundred and three passer rating. They compare that to
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what he's doing early on in the season. Four touchdowns
against this team, three touchdowns against death team. Two touchdowns here,
two touchdowns there. So we're seeing him come back to
the medium a little bit, but he's still probably doing
exactly what we'd hoped to do at the beginning of
the season. The problem is now is that, Okay, these
games that you're supposed to win, You've got to win
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these games because the Bears are four and two, the
Packers are five and two, the Lions are five and one,
So every single team in the NFC North is right
there and it can so quickly get out of control.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And I think that's why this game is important.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I would argue that this game against the Rams is
almost a must win game just because of you don't
want to lose two in a row and have the
doubts and questions and Okay, Sam Donald, like, was it
just a flashing a pan kind of thing with the
Minnesota Vikings and Kevin O'Connell. Short week on the road
at the Rams and the Rams are playing for something
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and they're only two and four, but the Seahawks are
four and three, So they win one or two games
and they're right back in the Division two.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So it's not gonna be.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
A kkewalk and Cooper Cup's supposed to be back, so
I don't think it's going to be an easy game
at all. So that's my reaction following that game. One
loss not a big deal, but you can't lose two
in a row. You need to get the band back together,
figure it out and the other thing. Maybe you can
help me with this. This is also what I'm struggling with.
Then I don't really quite have a feel for it yet.
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And the Vikings lost thirty one to twenty nine. Like
we said, best team in the NFC, were hung right there,
had to lead with two minutes left, Troit Lions put
a drive together won the game. A lot of people
are saying exactly what you just said. Oh good loss,
were competitive, felt like a playoff game. But at the
end of the day, it's still a loss against a
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good team, and it doesn't matter if you lose by two,
if you lose by ten points, a loss is a loss.
And this the Vikings were at home, so a big
advantage there. The guy go to Detroit next time, and
they still weren't able to limit Jared Goff's ability. So
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like good loss, good loss, good loss. But yet a
loss is a loss. Who really gives a damn?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, But there are good losses and there are bad losses,
just like there's good wins and bad wins. Yeah, I mean,
I would say the Eagles win against the Browns twenty
to sixteen, that was a bad win. A win is
a win, doesn't matter. Loss is a loss, doesn't matter.
But I'd say when you dive into a little bit
further the advanced stats on winning or.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Loving, you pull back that bikini a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It's showing you a little something. It's a little side
boom on this. It's at the Giants crushing or the
Eagles crushing the Giants twenty eight to three. That's a
good win. So I would say this was a good loss.
And when you look at your schedule, like I said,
you've got you've beat really good teams. You've crushed really
good teams, right, You've you've handled business with the other one,
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and then you're sticking with one of the best teams
in the league, which you got, which the Vikings are.
At this point, we've had enough games, We've gone through
enough of the season where you know they are one
of the best teams. So yeah, I would say it's you.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I don't think they're super Bowl contenders though.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The NFC is so soft though, aside from the NFC North,
which the Packers, I think the pack You beat the
Packers earlier in the year, and I think they are
like getting better as the season is going on. I
don't think anyone outside of the Lions are like untouchable.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
So I could very well see again the Lions and
the Vikings and NFC championship game and then you are
literally playing to go to the Super Bowl, right, you know,
I think they're I think they're contenders.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Okay, I like it.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Okay, why don't Why don't you think they're Super Bowl contenders? Like?
What's holding you Bay? Is it? Sam Darnold? Is it
something like? Is it the defense giving up what they
gave up? Kind of showing some cracks in the armor
there in the What is that?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
That's Sam Donald?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Sam Donald?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Okay, Yeah, what were you going to say?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I'll preface this with you may have to cut it,
but may do you remember when Jeremy Lynn was going
like he had his little thirteen or thirteen game run
or whatever lynsanity insanity. Yeah, and I think it was
like the first game he didn't score thirty points or
he had a bad game or something. And then and
(34:27):
the top headline on ESPN was chink in the Armor. Yeah,
whenever I say crack in the armor, I was like,
I have to hesitate for a second and not say
that because I'm like, I don't. I don't mean, I
don't think there's anything.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Wrong with chink in the armor. But if it's an
ESPN headline about Jeremy Lynn, that sounds a yeah, that's
a little tough. It's a tough break for Jeremy Lynn.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I remember reading that even as like a seventeen year
old and was.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Like, ooh, I can't say that, just being a different
bosses though, Well you would have thought that. So it's
Sam Donald, Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, I think regular season it's one thing.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Playoff playoff football is just a little bit different, Bud,
that atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And just the playmaking that you need to make.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Not that he can't do it, but if the Detroit
Lions was truly a test or a preview of what
a playoff game looks like, well, Sam Donald, he had
some good throws and he had some bad throws, And
I just don't know if it's going to be enough
to get the Minnesota Vikings over the hump in the playoffs,
(35:43):
to the point where I would be surprised if the
Minnesota Vikings won one playoff game with Sam Donald as
the KB one.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Is there anything that he can do? Excuse me? Is
there anything that he can do throughout the season. If
you guys go thirteen in four, I guess it is.
If you guys go thirteen and four, he's got four
thousand passing yards, thirty five tds, ten picks.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, well that might change my opinion.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
If he has a great regular season statistics wise.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, that could change my opinion.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And depending on how the Minnesota Vikings defense plays throughout
the rest of the regular season. Two, maybe Sam Donald
can go out there in a playoff game, go seventeen
for twenty one touchdown, one pick, and the defense holds
the other team to three points and you'll win twenty
one to three, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
It's not that we can't win with Sam Darnold. I
just don't think the Vikings will.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
So yeah, I'm just trying to think playoff scenarios. I
think that the Lions are going to get that one
seed and be with the division, so that that ends
you're at the best case scenario five seed, which means
you're playing the four seed, which will probably be some
one from the NFC South or maybe even the NFC East.
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You know, if it's usually that fourth seed division, you
know the fourth divisional winner isn't super great.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, I just I would not be surprised if mid
season the Vikings stutter or have a crack in the armor.
I would not be surprised if they lost to the Rams,
or if they lost to your Doug Peterson's Jacksonville Jaguars.
I know it's supposed to get easier, and according to
the schedule, it is at the Rams home versus the Colts.
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They have a winning record at Jacksonville, at Tennessee, at Chicago.
You know, on paper, it's like, oh, win win, win win,
when I just don't think it's gonna go that way.
I think the Minnesota Vikings schedule is not revealing the
true outcome of how it's going to go. I think
we're gonna lose, not all of those games. I'm not
(37:58):
gonna say we're gonna go oh in five over the
next five games. But there's definitely gonna be some games
where you look at the schedule and say, Wow, the
Minnesota Vikings are going to win this game, and then
they lose it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Like the Rams.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
The Vikings are favored by three points. I would not
be surprised if they lost.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
That game. Will be the Titans. The Titans suck. Okay,
the Titans are garbage.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
But the Colts just it took your Eagles out of
the Sunday night football primetime spot. Your game got bounced
to three fifteen that afternoon.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Against the Jags, and I wouldn't I think that's gonna
be a company a competitive game for his gumb over here.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
But I can see that about the Rams. But the Colts,
you all are going to smash. The Jacks to smash,
and the Titans you're going to smash. I see you
guys going four and one through that stretch. I mean,
Anthony Richardson is he's the playmaker, He's this, he's that. Yeah,
all that stuff he sucks.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Gives him a better chance to win.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, he sucks.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
He's inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
The Jaguars are just all over the place, and then
the Titans, Yeah, they don't know what they're doing. And
then yeah, we week twelve against the Bears. Even after that,
the Bears is like, okay, maybe a SOSO game. Cardinals,
y'all will be Falcons, y'all should be Bears again, Seahawks
aren't great, and then you finish with Packers Lions, like, yeah,
(39:33):
that's just the Is that just the the pain of
a Vikings sports.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I'm a skeptic sports fan for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I'm definitely more of a skeptic as a fan.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
But I call myself a realist. Yeah, I'm a realist.
I like to be objective. I don't think these games
are gonna be as easy as it looks on paper.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's just my opinion. I I just I just don't
think it's gonna go as smooth as we think it will.
H So that's just my take. But got anything else
from you, Bud?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You peaked a lot during this pod as some sound
like a firework that had a little a black cat.
Huh sound like a firework that?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yeah, black cat?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That was that was an as mr for me.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Bud a butthole whispers into my Goodbye Minnesota, TA, Goodbye
silent but deadly.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Thanks as always, Brother, Thanks man,
We are back again.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Oh sorry, did I mess up?
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Tony?
Speaker 4 (00:13):
When you give me the full blown intro?
Speaker 1 (00:16):
How's it going?
Speaker 4 (00:17):
But what's that? What's the ASMR? I think is what
it's called people who like listen to whispering and like
soft sounds or something like that. I may have just
made up what asm.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Are a SMR? I've never heard of that before.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
Yeah, I've like, I've heard of it on the side,
I've never like actually looked it up. And I know
it's like a thing. I don't even know if I'm
saying it.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
The right acronym ASMR A as MR, ASMR as ARM.
Watch this if you are stressed, let me take care
of you. Who websites you think?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
What is a SMR? Mean and slang?
Speaker 1 (01:02):
SMR stands for anonymous sensory mariy deane response There typically
refers to the tingly feeling that travels from the head downward,
some experience and response to certain sounds, feelings, or descriptions.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
So you're getting some good as MR from this, Bud.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
There's a tingle in my head, which head? Come on,
buddu budd with one two eyes. Dick starts whispering.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
We're not even a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Two.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Our dicks are already out whisper.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
What our dicks are playing telephone?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Oh wowsers.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
There. Oh he peaked early today.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
That's a sign of things to come.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Blow our load early.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Speaking of those.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Kind of discussions, I run across a video and we're
going to dive into the vikings, and he goes in
a bit here because that's what we do. But I
ran into a video. I saw a video online and
I just think it's something you'd enjoy. I think this
person said this with us in.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Mind a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Stats to like bikinis.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Look at.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Because of their defense, specifically defensive Dannar Lovekey's face, I
feel like, is the perfect face for that reaction. Could
you hear what he said? He said, stats are a
lot like bikinis. They show some things, but they don't
reveal at all.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
That's okay, I don't think that. That's not that doesn't
quite warrant the like, Oh I can't laugh at this.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, I just think it was a surprising take for sure.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
It's you said, it's a surprising taker.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, Like that's you don't hear that every day?
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Really you turn on ESPN Countdown and Bloomer during his
two minute drill stats are a lot like bikinis rumbling, stumbling. No,
it doesn't do it for you.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
No, that's kind of tame for.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
Booger McFarland.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
I like Booger.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Booger's good. You like Booger. Yeah, Oh, I don't think
I've ever heard of a worse analyser. Analysair there you go, yeah,
go again, take it. I don't think I've ever heard
any worse analys in than from Booger McFarland.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Booker McFarland's analysis is like bikinisch was a little, but
it doesn't give you the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
It's true. I remember a few years ago when he
was doing the Monday Night football thing. He had the
chair like.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
On the sideline the boogermobile, and it was the Minnesota
Vikings Seattle Seahawks game, and the Vikings picked off Russell
Wilson and went off a Vikings helmet went into the
Vikings defender's hands and they ran it in for a touchdown.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And he goes, wow, this is amazing play because things
never happened like this for the Minnesota Vikings. They never
good they never get good breaks, just remember the Minneapolis
miracle that happened against them.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
I will say him and I think Jason Witten was
there for a year or two. They were terrible. Yeah,
we're terrible. Was as color analysts.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah sounds funny.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Give me one second. Let me figure out this dog situation.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
Look at this.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
You got a whiny dog, got a whiny anus. He
said he'd take a poop on his carpet. Yeah, they're
dump down.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
There right before.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
No, I cleaned it up.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Don't look at you, all right?
Speaker 4 (05:49):
We leaving that in.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
I'm okay with leaving it in. Sure, I wouldn't do it.
There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
She found the sock, so she's good for two minutes.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Where's the sock?
Speaker 4 (06:02):
It was on the floor, sun socks.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Is it a boy dog or a girl dog?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
It's a girl dog.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Girl dog.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
She identifies as a girl cat.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Though funny.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
I could ask a random question, but I don't think
I'll do it right now. Let's try to keep this pg.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Thirteen.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Okay, give it. I see the wheels churning in there.
There's smoke coming out of your ears.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Do you make any animal noises in bed?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Animal noises?
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Animal noises? You bark.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Talk like Scooby Doo when I call him eat a
big sandwich in one bite.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Scooby snack. I think every guy does anyway.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
I don't think.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
You don't think so.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
No, absolutely not.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Well, the Eagles, they defeated the lowly New York Giants.
Daniel Jones got benched. It's not like bikinis. You know,
stats don't typically reveal the whole story revolving around Daniel Jones.
What's your reaction, say, Kawan Barkley revenge game pounced on
(07:36):
his former team. Do you buy into the whole revenge
game narrative or is that a little overrated deal?
Speaker 4 (07:42):
No, I definitely buy into it. I think there's always
those games that teams have circled on the calendar, you know,
the following year. I think, you know, just like last week,
the Niners and the forty are the Chiefs and the
forty nine ers playing Super Bowl rematch, So that's gonna
be a bigger game whether they're are playing the Panthers,
you know. So I definitely buy into that narrative. I
(08:04):
don't think you can let it, you know, affect your
your weekly schedule, your routine, all that kind of stuff.
But you definitely have games you look forward to more so, No,
it's finally good to see the Eagles get like a
dominant win. They have not one of those and probably
a year and a half where they've just gone out
and add another slow start, which that's just it's typical
(08:26):
now for a Sirianni team, They for whatever reason, just
those first two three four drives in the in the
first quarter can't really seem to do much or if
and when they do, it's you know, there's a Jalen
Hurts turnover or just something happens. The defense isn't playing well.
So it was good to see an all round performance.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
From for someone that doesn't follow Eagles reporters or the
Eagles content on social media anywhere. I should have known.
I got to come on the spot. Did they even
play this weekend? Like I didn't see anybody talking about
the Eagles this weekend, and the Eagles are to that.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Point where I only see them online.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
If Nick Sirianni does something stupid, right, if there's a
stupid play call, well then it brings out all the
national media folks discussing it talking about it. But if
they're going to pounce the new York Giants twenty eight
to three. The reason why I need to ask you
because nobody was talking about Nick Sirianni's win. They just
want to He's in that like state of his NFL
(09:36):
coaching career where it's kind of like an offensive lineman.
People are only talking about them if they're doing something
completely stupid and if they have a nice block boem,
who really cares.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah, it's they had like I said, they had that
complete performance. It was a very boring game. It was
twenty eight to three, so it's not like they dropped
forty fifty on them. It was just high scoring the
whole time. They went up fourteen to nothing. Giants kicked
the field goal and then they scored.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Like you said, they started slow, they did.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
They didn't score their first their first points till a
little bit into the second quarter.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Oh ok.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
Yeah, So I think they had three drives with where
they punted in the first quarter and then maybe two
of those were three and outs, so it Yeah, it
was a slow start. They got going in the second corner.
Sekon had one of his three just big runs. I
think it was a fifty yard or ye, but fourteen
(10:33):
nothing Giants kicked the field goal, and then they scored
fourteen points to kind of put it away in the
second half. But their defense played well. They only gave
up one hundred and nineteen yards to the Giants, So
it was just all around kind of complete dominance, which
which is good. And then I don't know, a good
thing people are saying A good thing came out of
(10:53):
the game too, where Nick Sirianni goes up to Saquon
at the end of the game and says, hey, man,
you're thirteen yards away from your career high. I'd really
like to see you get that, especially against your former team.
And uh, he says, but I'm pulling out the rest
of the starters. Do you want to stay in? And
Sekwon goes, now, let the young says something to the
effect of like let.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
The young bucks go out there.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
The young dogs eat so something. Stooby Doo comes in
with an Eagles helvet.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Wear number one. It's got the tail between his legs,
do on the back of his Shaky's hiking the ball,
Velmo's blocking.
Speaker 4 (11:34):
Velma's the tight end, Fred's QB one. Scrappy is the
third down running back.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Daphne's the cheerleader on the side.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
So yeah, it was, like I said, it was a
good kind of just all around, all around game from them.
So I would like my head coach to maybe not
know end game my running back's career high in yards
and trying to just get him that. I feel like
that's kind of like, uh, I don't know, let's just
(12:08):
play the game. Let's not worry about those kind of
stats and whatnot.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
But I'm sure someone relaid that to him. I'm sure
he wasn't looking up the stats. I'm sure it was
someone inside the Eagles organization that relaid that to him.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I can see how that's a good you know, people
see that as like, hey, he's a player's coach, he
takes care of his guys, that kind of thing. So
I'm not going to complain too much about that. But yeah,
I mean it was. It was finally a good dominant win. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:32):
The Minnesota Vikings. I can't remember whenever Adrian Peterson's rookie
year was. He had like two hundred and ninety six
yards and there's just a few plays left offensively, and
he needed one more yard to have the single game
rushing record, and children throws him back out of the field.
Of course the fans are yelling for it because the
(12:53):
fans know about it. And then he throws him back
out of the field. He gets like one more yard
on the final play of the game. It gets a
single game record. But I'm sure rad Children's had no
idea what that stat record was before the game. I'm
sure it was a team pr play where like, hey,
by the way, Nick Sirianni Sakwan Barkley is thirteen yards
away from his singles game record, you want to put
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them in the game.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
You want to let him know about it. So I
don't have no problem with that.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
Yeah, but I feel like that's like a Madden video
game thing, like, yeah, I'm just gonna put I'm gonna
leave Jalen Hurts in and throw his thirteenth touchdown pass
of the game. Yeah, in Madden, I don't necessarily, I don't.
I don't know. Maybe it's a little bit kind of
just old school or whatever. You're old school, get an
old soul with me.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
You backpacked up hill both ways.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
To school, twenty miles both ways in.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
The negative wind, child conditions in sideways.
Speaker 4 (13:54):
Like I said, if I'm complaining about my coach knowing
about my running backs career yardage for a game, then
you know, hey, I think it was a good day.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Then well, your team is four and two, the Washington
Commanders are five and two. Those are gonna be some
good games coming up. Yeah, And now it's gonna be
interesting because I don't know what Jaden Daniels's status is
for the Washington Commanders moving forward. He missed three fourths
of his last game, and Marcus Mariota came in and
dominated the Carolina Panthers. But Philadelphia Eagles Washington Commanders he
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played twice, once in Week eleven and then another one
in Week sixteen.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
That's gonna be a fun one to watch.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So I feel a lot better about this Eagles team
than I did two weeks ago. The only thing that
I'm I guess I would still be a little bit
concerned about. They beat two bad teams and the Browns
and the Giants to get to four and two. So
they squeaked by the Giant or they squeaked by the
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Browns wins a win, and they they dominated the Giants.
But they're they're getting healthy. They got their three stars
back a couple of games ago with a J. Brown
DeVante Smith and Lane Johnson. So they did kind of
hit some of those early season injury struggles, which may
kind of correlate with them getting off to a to
(15:22):
a slow start too and two start, but they're getting
some momentum now, which I think is good. So yeah,
I think I think the Commanders are the Commanders are
a good team. They still have a bad defense, so
I think those two games could be kind of just
high scoring games. And then yeah, the ribs things with Daniels,
like that's that's something that's not going to just be gone.
(15:42):
He's he made. I think it's all that he's weak
to weak, but rib stuff, those things linger.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
The vegans are kind of doing the Sorry. Also, I
thought you stopped.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
No, I was still talking about.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
Sided jump in.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Sorry, the start of your sentence interrupted the beginning of
my sentence. Huh.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
The end of your sentence was interrupted by the beginning
of my sentence.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
The beginning of your sentence interrupted the end of your sentence,
the middle of my sentence.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Wow, you're you're finishing up.
Speaker 4 (16:18):
I was wrapping it up.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Two minutes. What did you say?
Speaker 4 (16:28):
No, I was finished.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Well, the floor is yours. Whatever you want to say
I'll just shut up.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
Welcome to the Tony Lebarbara Podcast featuring Minnesota two, where
all we talk about is Vikings and Eagles.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Did you see the w NBA Finals finished?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
The backlash from oh.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Man Garbage told you the Links we're gonna win.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
The ref stole it.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
They did. The w NBA Commissioner comes out with a
New New York Liberty skyline dress after the game. That's
a little sketch balls.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, so I've heard people. I didn't watch the game,
but I've heard the backlash. I've read about it and whatnot. Like, what,
it's a game five. You already have the New York
Liberty there, you know, I get New York, bigger market,
all of that kind of stuff. What does the WNBA
gain by having the Liberty win in that situation over
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the Lynx.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
A Lot one. They're the first WNBA franchise established. There's
only twelve one, but they're the first one established twenty
something years ago and they've never won one. They've got
the star power, so it's easy to market. You got
Brianna Stewart, you got Sabrina who participated in the men's
three point contest last year, and then you got the
(17:53):
big Center Jones I think is their name. They're a
New York team, which is a big deal always in
any market. I'm sure that MLB isn't complaining that it's
Yankees Dodgers versus Brewers Indians, Right, So all of those
things factor into play. And then you saw that. I
(18:14):
get all that.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I get all that. It's they're already in the finals though,
they're already able to market a New York team.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
But if they were in the finals, so you can
market even further.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
But how I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
But there's ways, like commercials following the game, Like if
they win the finals, though, they can put it on
poster boards everywhere that they were the twenty twenty four
WNBA champions. You can market it, commercial it, do all
those things. Sponsorships might roll in a little bit more
because they won. I think it means a lot. I
(18:49):
don't know, I mean, and then I was gonna say
something else, but then you interrupted me. I can't remember
what it was. Oh, Plus they okay about it this
way I thought of it if you were an entity,
and I don't necessarily blame the WNBA for doing this.
If I was the WNBA, I would do the same thing.
(19:10):
It just happened against the Minnesota team. So I care
a little bit more. If you were an entity, if
you were the Tony La Barbera podcast, and he lost
forty million dollars per year, would you try your absolute
best and do anything you could do to manipulate it
a little bit and help your entity have some success
(19:34):
and cut down on the forty million dollar loss. Which
you know, the WNBA is like a subsidized product from
the NBA.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
NBA owners basically own it.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
I think they do own it, but and apparently they're
fired up and tired of the WNBA losing all this money.
So you got all this pressure mounting from billionaires about
the WNBA losing all this money. They're losing forty million
dollars a year, even with Caitlin Clark being this phenom
and drawing more eyes than ever before, and yet you're
still loosing all this money.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
So I would do anything I could do and to
try to make my aunt to do succeed.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
So if I was in if I had my own podcast,
and I was in a podcast tournament to determine the
best podcast, and I was already the best podcast going
into it, and I had marketability, I had the name recognition.
I you know, talked about the NFL, which is going
(20:34):
to get me viewers and listeners and downloads and all
that stuff. And I made it to the finals of
this podcast competition. I don't think winning it isn't going
to get me one hundred more downloads or a thousand
more downloads. I don't think there's a big difference as
far as this New York team getting to the game
(20:56):
five and winning it and then what you can do
after that. Like you said, you've already got this once
in a blue like once in a generation starr in
Caitlin Clark like, I just don't see the correlation of
rigging it for a New York team to win when
you're already in the game a Game five of the
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WNBA finals.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Hmm, well, I guess we just agree to disagree.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Then, But I get your points. I do like see
how how you can go through some of that stuff.
I just don't see it being like of substantial value
as opposed to Minnesota the Links winning and then you
get to market some of the Links players, you get
to do some of that same stuff. Yeah, you may
(21:42):
not have like you know, oh, it's the you're promoting
New York against you know, Minnesota.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
But right, I think it's more so about the players
on the team too.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Now, I think there's something to Brianna Stewart and Sabrina
winning a title versus I could only really name. I
couldn't have a single player in the links before the
before the playoffs started. Now, I watched a few games
of the class like the color she can play, Courtney Williams,
she can't play.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
She's garbage again, he stinks.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
But but aren't they already established in that sense of
you know, I mean Sabrina and Escu, Like, she's been amazing.
She's been like a kind of household name for a
long time, even going back to her Oregon days.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
Lucy Lee for sure.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
Yeah, eating ice cream at eight years old. So I
don't know, I've heard that. That was just kind of
the first thought that I that I had with it
is what what what does the w A NBA game
with with that? I mean, maybe I'm way off.
Speaker 1 (22:45):
But yeah, No, that's an interesting discussion to have, and
it's fun to It's a fun back and forth.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Zig and a zag, Yeah exactly zag when everyone else is.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Yeah, it's a fun conversation.
Speaker 1 (23:03):
Minnesota Vikings lost the Detroit Lions five to one, five
to one record falls to five and one. They lost
thirty one twenty nine donald one touchdown, one pick up
ten zero down twenty one to ten. Took the lead
again twenty nine to twenty eight. Detroit Lions. Field goal
wins the game, seals the deal. Apparently the guy that
(23:25):
kicked the field goal was a brick salesman, just like
like a year ago.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
And those are one of my favorite stories.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, pull them off the street to kick a game
with a field goal.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
He was selling insurance last week. He had to request
a day off from State Farm to come down to
First Bank State.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
They pulled this guy off the streets. It was. It's
a homeless man at the hall, bless shelter, kicking field goal,
kicking cardboard boxes into a tunnel.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
I was kicking field goals for the Lions.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
He was around one of those fires underneath and overpass
and the GM walks Till walks up to him, Hey, Bud,
get your cleats.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
He's got the big hairy beard and boks go down
on the beard.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
He's got the one bar face mask.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Sorry, it's all I can afford. Right now, he's got
one shoe.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
He still has his good kicking shoe.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
He's not wearing a shirt.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
He's not wearing his shirt, but he still has the
football pants on.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
Just wearing shoulder pads, a little kicker shoulder pads.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
He has to go back to his tent. Yeah, let
me get my belongings.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
He just picks a All right, I got him.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Do you think you'd be a good homeless man that
this thought before?
Speaker 4 (25:01):
I think i'd be a good home I think.
Speaker 2 (25:03):
I'd be a very good homeless man. I've thought about
this before.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
You know.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
The pick up Yeah, I don't know why homeless people
don't do this. Maybe they do and they just don't
know it. You know, the pickup counters. You can't do
this anymore at Jersey Mice. They ask you for your
name and then they have to hand it to you.
But they used to used to just put it right
up there and you could walk in, grab it and
walk out. But Chapole, they put it right up there.
They put it right on the pickup ragging. If you're homeless, taken,
(25:26):
just walk in there and pick it up, walk out.
No it we'll know, you know. But you're hearing a
little bun and no wear a hat, find a little deodorant,
don't stink so bad, and you could get away easily.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
I think I'd be a tremendous homeless man. If I
was homeless man.
Speaker 4 (25:42):
You could definitely eat well, you could do that very well.
I always thought like I would find a brand new
dumpster and I would just like trick out that dumpster,
you know, mm hmm. That would just be my house.
I could just like roll it anywhere I wanted to go. Always,
I always thought too, if I was a homeless person,
I would like, I guess I would have to walk,
so take me a long time.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
But like I need to call stew sequits for that.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
Why doesn't every homeless person just like live at the beach, Yeah,
like great Weather.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
It's like they're homeless or something.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Like they don't have any money to get places.
Speaker 2 (26:24):
Yeah, it's like something in their brain must be a
little off.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
Waking up at the crack of dawn, go in, steal
Starbucks coffee from the line, get and I'm ready to.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Go for this. It's like a nice life. I don't
know why they complain so much. Why do we see
homeless people just complained, wherever you want ocean side view?
Why don't they put that up on zillows if they
can get something for that. How much square feet you
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got in that place, bud America?
Speaker 4 (27:03):
What's the square footage? America?
Speaker 2 (27:09):
I can go where I want, No bills, no mortgage,
no debt.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
What's the electric in the sun? I gotta pay my
utility though? Is that city water or country water? That's
the ocean?
Speaker 2 (27:30):
How do you decipher the salt? How do you get
the salt out of there?
Speaker 4 (27:34):
You got in that place?
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah? The one problem I do have is that sometimes
the wheel on the garbage can squeaks a little bit.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
The one problem I have with being homeless is what
you get so many homeless people's comments in here in
this episode.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
You don't know how hard it is.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
How how's that square footage?
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (28:17):
So coming coming out of that game then, because that
that felt like a playoff game to me. I was
kind of watching that in the background. It honestly like
felt like an NFC championship game. Crowd was rocking back
and forth. It was. It was a very good game.
So how do you feel coming out of it? Like
(28:37):
I said, we were already talking last week, you weren't
a bad five and zer like, you've got some really
good teams, and then that's probably the Lions. They're definitely
the best team in the NFC. Maybe Sons, the Chiefs
are the best team in the NFL. Yeah, question Mark
you feel Do you feel good? Yeah? You hung You
(28:59):
hung them. You very well could have won that game, right,
you know it's not like it was a blowout anything
like that. So how do you feel coming out of that?
Speaker 1 (29:10):
There's a few things I feel. One My first reaction
was they're never gonna go twenty No. One loss is
one loss, not a big deal? All right, big deal? Okay,
one loss against the best team in the NFC right now, Okay,
who cares? Two.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
My second reaction was, you can't lose two in a row.
You can't.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
You got a short week, got Rams on Thursday night,
Gotta beat him. And not that five and two is
the end of the world, but it can so quickly
spiral out of control. And Sam Darnold has been awesome
to the first few weeks of the season, but we've
started to see him come back to earth a little bit.
One touchdown, one pick against the lines. He had like
one hundred and three passer rating. They compare that to
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what he's doing early on in the season. Four touchdowns
against this team, three touchdowns against death team. Two touchdowns here,
two touchdowns there. So we're seeing him come back to
the medium a little bit, but he's still probably doing
exactly what we'd hoped to do at the beginning of
the season. The problem is now is that, Okay, these
games that you're supposed to win, You've got to win
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these games because the Bears are four and two, the
Packers are five and two, the Lions are five and one,
So every single team in the NFC North is right
there and it can so quickly get out of control.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
And I think that's why this game is important.
Speaker 1 (30:29):
I would argue that this game against the Rams is
almost a must win game just because of you don't
want to lose two in a row and have the
doubts and questions and Okay, Sam Donald, like, was it
just a flashing a pan kind of thing with the
Minnesota Vikings and Kevin O'Connell. Short week on the road
at the Rams and the Rams are playing for something
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and they're only two and four, but the Seahawks are
four and three, So they win one or two games
and they're right back in the Division two.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
So it's not gonna be.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
A kkewalk and Cooper Cup's supposed to be back, so
I don't think it's going to be an easy game
at all. So that's my reaction following that game. One
loss not a big deal, but you can't lose two
in a row. You need to get the band back together,
figure it out and the other thing. Maybe you can
help me with this. This is also what I'm struggling with.
Then I don't really quite have a feel for it yet.
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And the Vikings lost thirty one to twenty nine. Like
we said, best team in the NFC, were hung right there,
had to lead with two minutes left, Troit Lions put
a drive together won the game. A lot of people
are saying exactly what you just said. Oh good loss,
were competitive, felt like a playoff game. But at the
end of the day, it's still a loss against a
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good team, and it doesn't matter if you lose by two,
if you lose by ten points, a loss is a loss.
And this the Vikings were at home, so a big
advantage there. The guy go to Detroit next time, and
they still weren't able to limit Jared Goff's ability. So
(32:01):
like good loss, good loss, good loss. But yet a
loss is a loss. Who really gives a damn?
Speaker 4 (32:07):
Yeah, But there are good losses and there are bad losses,
just like there's good wins and bad wins. Yeah, I mean,
I would say the Eagles win against the Browns twenty
to sixteen, that was a bad win. A win is
a win, doesn't matter. Loss is a loss, doesn't matter.
But I'd say when you dive into a little bit
further the advanced stats on winning or.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Loving, you pull back that bikini a little bit.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
It's showing you a little something. It's a little side
boom on this. It's at the Giants crushing or the
Eagles crushing the Giants twenty eight to three. That's a
good win. So I would say this was a good loss.
And when you look at your schedule, like I said,
you've got you've beat really good teams. You've crushed really
good teams, right, You've you've handled business with the other one,
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and then you're sticking with one of the best teams
in the league, which you got, which the Vikings are.
At this point, we've had enough games, We've gone through
enough of the season where you know they are one
of the best teams. So yeah, I would say it's you.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
I don't think they're super Bowl contenders though.
Speaker 4 (33:10):
The NFC is so soft though, aside from the NFC North,
which the Packers, I think the pack You beat the
Packers earlier in the year, and I think they are
like getting better as the season is going on. I
don't think anyone outside of the Lions are like untouchable.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
Yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 4 (33:32):
So I could very well see again the Lions and
the Vikings and NFC championship game and then you are
literally playing to go to the Super Bowl, right, you know,
I think they're I think they're contenders.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Okay, I like it.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
Okay, why don't Why don't you think they're Super Bowl contenders? Like?
What's holding you Bay? Is it? Sam Darnold? Is it
something like? Is it the defense giving up what they
gave up? Kind of showing some cracks in the armor
there in the What is that?
Speaker 2 (34:01):
That's Sam Donald?
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Sam Donald?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
Okay, Yeah, what were you going to say?
Speaker 4 (34:07):
I'll preface this with you may have to cut it,
but may do you remember when Jeremy Lynn was going
like he had his little thirteen or thirteen game run
or whatever lynsanity insanity. Yeah, and I think it was
like the first game he didn't score thirty points or
he had a bad game or something. And then and
(34:27):
the top headline on ESPN was chink in the Armor. Yeah,
whenever I say crack in the armor, I was like,
I have to hesitate for a second and not say
that because I'm like, I don't. I don't mean, I
don't think there's anything.
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Wrong with chink in the armor. But if it's an
ESPN headline about Jeremy Lynn, that sounds a yeah, that's
a little tough. It's a tough break for Jeremy Lynn.
Speaker 4 (34:53):
I remember reading that even as like a seventeen year
old and was.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
Like, ooh, I can't say that, just being a different
bosses though, Well you would have thought that. So it's
Sam Donald, Sam Donald.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Yeah, I think regular season it's one thing.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Playoff playoff football is just a little bit different, Bud,
that atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
And just the playmaking that you need to make.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Not that he can't do it, but if the Detroit
Lions was truly a test or a preview of what
a playoff game looks like, well, Sam Donald, he had
some good throws and he had some bad throws, And
I just don't know if it's going to be enough
to get the Minnesota Vikings over the hump in the playoffs,
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to the point where I would be surprised if the
Minnesota Vikings won one playoff game with Sam Donald as
the KB one.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Is there anything that he can do? Excuse me? Is
there anything that he can do throughout the season. If
you guys go thirteen in four, I guess it is.
If you guys go thirteen and four, he's got four
thousand passing yards, thirty five tds, ten picks.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yeah, well that might change my opinion.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
If he has a great regular season statistics wise.
Speaker 2 (36:16):
Yeah, that could change my opinion.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
And depending on how the Minnesota Vikings defense plays throughout
the rest of the regular season. Two, maybe Sam Donald
can go out there in a playoff game, go seventeen
for twenty one touchdown, one pick, and the defense holds
the other team to three points and you'll win twenty
one to three, or whatever the case may be.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
It's not that we can't win with Sam Darnold. I
just don't think the Vikings will.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
So yeah, I'm just trying to think playoff scenarios. I
think that the Lions are going to get that one
seed and be with the division, so that that ends
you're at the best case scenario five seed, which means
you're playing the four seed, which will probably be some
one from the NFC South or maybe even the NFC East.
(37:05):
You know, if it's usually that fourth seed division, you
know the fourth divisional winner isn't super great.
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Yeah, I just I would not be surprised if mid
season the Vikings stutter or have a crack in the armor.
I would not be surprised if they lost to the Rams,
or if they lost to your Doug Peterson's Jacksonville Jaguars.
I know it's supposed to get easier, and according to
the schedule, it is at the Rams home versus the Colts.
(37:37):
They have a winning record at Jacksonville, at Tennessee, at Chicago.
You know, on paper, it's like, oh, win win, win win,
when I just don't think it's gonna go that way.
I think the Minnesota Vikings schedule is not revealing the
true outcome of how it's going to go. I think
we're gonna lose, not all of those games. I'm not
(37:58):
gonna say we're gonna go oh in five over the
next five games. But there's definitely gonna be some games
where you look at the schedule and say, Wow, the
Minnesota Vikings are going to win this game, and then
they lose it.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
Like the Rams.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
The Vikings are favored by three points. I would not
be surprised if they lost.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
That game. Will be the Titans. The Titans suck. Okay,
the Titans are garbage.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
But the Colts just it took your Eagles out of
the Sunday night football primetime spot. Your game got bounced
to three fifteen that afternoon.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
I saw that.
Speaker 1 (38:29):
Against the Jags, and I wouldn't I think that's gonna
be a company a competitive game for his gumb over here.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
But I can see that about the Rams. But the Colts,
you all are going to smash. The Jacks to smash,
and the Titans you're going to smash. I see you
guys going four and one through that stretch. I mean,
Anthony Richardson is he's the playmaker, He's this, he's that. Yeah,
all that stuff he sucks.
Speaker 1 (39:05):
Gives him a better chance to win.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
Yeah, he sucks.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
He's inaccurate.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
The Jaguars are just all over the place, and then
the Titans, Yeah, they don't know what they're doing. And
then yeah, we week twelve against the Bears. Even after that,
the Bears is like, okay, maybe a SOSO game. Cardinals,
y'all will be Falcons, y'all should be Bears again, Seahawks
aren't great, and then you finish with Packers Lions, like, yeah,
(39:33):
that's just the Is that just the the pain of
a Vikings sports.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
I'm a skeptic sports fan for sure.
Speaker 2 (39:41):
I'm definitely more of a skeptic as a fan.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
But I call myself a realist. Yeah, I'm a realist.
I like to be objective. I don't think these games
are gonna be as easy as it looks on paper.
Speaker 2 (39:53):
That's just my opinion. I I just I just don't
think it's gonna go as smooth as we think it will.
H So that's just my take. But got anything else
from you, Bud?
Speaker 4 (40:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You peaked a lot during this pod as some sound
like a firework that had a little a black cat.
Huh sound like a firework that?
Speaker 4 (40:21):
Yeah, black cat?
Speaker 2 (40:25):
That was that was an as mr for me.
Speaker 3 (40:26):
Bud a butthole whispers into my Goodbye Minnesota, TA, Goodbye
silent but deadly.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
Thanks as always, Brother, Thanks man,
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