July 11, 2025 • 15 mins
In this conversation, Tim discusses the Minnesota Twins' long wait for a championship, highlights standout performances in the Summer League, and evaluates the potential of young players like Joan Beringer and Rob Dillingham. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the context of Summer League performances and the need for player development in the NBA.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Grind, a Minnesota sports podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's been twelve thousand, five hundred and forty five days
since the Minnesota Twins won the World Series, and it's
been a grind those numbers, according to Grock on X
because this the other day, I typed in the same
question into X and it said twelve thousand, three hundred
(00:26):
and seven days. So I don't know how it went
from twelve thousand, three hundred and seven days two days
ago to twelve thousand, five hundred and forty five days today,
but maybe its skipped a few years.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Anyways, doesn't matter or days whatever, but I can sense the.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Escape from championship torture in the state of Minnesota because
did you see that performance last night?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Did you see what it was delivered? It was incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So that's what we're going to talk about today. But
first I need to tell you about five Star Bass
Solutions of Minneapolis, because they transformed our bathroom in forty
eight hours and that's their guarantee, and our prior bathroom
we had mold. It was disgusting, it was embarrassing, and
it was just flat out outdated and unhealthy. Floors were blue,
(01:30):
shower had mold. Handrails, a step going into the shower,
one sink, ugly countertops, and ugly mirror. They came in
forty eight hours. New floor, new tub, new surround, new countertops,
new vanity, new mirror, and we went from one.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Sinks to two sinks.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Five Star Bath Solutions of Minneapolis transformed our bathroom and
made it into a masterpiece in forty eight hours. Don't
wait eight weeks for a bathroom project to get done.
Contact five Star Best Solutions in Minneapolis and get your
masterpiece done today, all right. This performance that might change
(02:13):
the course of Minnesota sports was performed by Johann Beringer
in the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Game one of Summer League.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Eleven points, eight rebounds, seven blocks.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And if you go on the YouTube or x of.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Course after watching this video and you pull up his highlights,
he dominated this game at the rim and you can
also see how quickly he was after he blocked the
shot to explode up the court and make an impactful
(03:05):
play offensively. Because here's the really interesting part about centers
running the floor. Sometimes they get delivered and condunct the ball,
which is great they're rewarded, But other times, what happens
when they run the floor. It requires perimeter defenders to
(03:30):
sink in and stop a fast break dunk, which then
allows the wing player the guard or forward to be wide.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Open in the corner around the wing and knock down
a wide open three. And although a center isn't.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Rewarded with a assist, there's nothing at all in the
statuet that represents him making a play for a team
because he didn't pass the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
All he did was run the floor.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
He made that play happen. So a center running the
floor and creating a play for a teammate to pass
to a wide open teammate is one of those significant
plays throughout the course of a basketball game that doesn't
(04:25):
get the recognition that deserves because you pull up the
statuty and the box score, and there isn't going to
be anything that showcases that he made a play for
a teammate because technically they didn't touch the ball, they
just ran the floor, and that it made the defense
(04:49):
shift into different spots which created a wide open shot
for a teammate. So eleven points, eight rebounds, seven blocks,
and I get it Summer League. So we also need
to view this objectively because what's so easy to do
especially during Summer League, is if a player stinks. I
(05:14):
remember Victor Webbinyana in his first Summer League game. He
performed terribly, and people were riding the dude so hard,
clabbering his performance and clabbering his future prospect in the NBA,
and it's like, it's the first Summer League game. Give
the dude a break, you'll be fine. But we can
(05:37):
also go the other way. When you have a seven
block performance and you're seven foot two with shoes on,
and you have long arms and you're eighteen years old,
then you have the speed, the length of the athleticism,
you can kind of go googly eyes over it and
(06:00):
go a little crazy because then you start to imagine
what it would look like in an NBA game, and
you're thinking, Wow, maybe he could play earlier than we think.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Maybe he could replace.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Rude de Gobert in a year or two based off
this Summer League performance.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
There's a few things that need to be responded to
that thought.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
One, the talent that Johann Behringer is performing against is
not NBA caliber talent. Most of them are G League players.
So the thing that what he did in game one
of Summer League is going to automatically translate into success
(06:52):
in NBA regular season games. Needs to be looked at
more objectively because he's facing against bottom tier talent in
the G League and that's who is playing in these games. However,
with that being said, there are some things that translate
(07:16):
better into the NBA than others. For example, Adam Morrison
what a name? Adam Morrison played for Gonzaga average like
twenty four to twenty five points per game, could not
score consistently in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Scoring is one.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of those skills that doesn't always translate into the NBA
from college, or from the G League or from wherever,
because scoring at the NBA requires another level of ability
(07:55):
and skills to do it at a high level. Blocking
and rebounding dunking from the dunkers spot is much different
and translates much easier because blocking a shot is mostly
(08:18):
about anticipation and timing, athleticism and length, and Johann Behringer
obviously has great instincts and has an ability to time
on when to jump and when to block the shot,
(08:40):
has the athleticism and length to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So although he's facing G.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
League talent, you're not asking Bearringer or beget to fill
in for Rudy Gobert and average fifteen to twenty points
per game. You're asking Baronjay to do is to set
a screen, block a shot, and rebound the ball, which
(09:12):
translates fifteen times easier into the NBA game than if
you were to ask a player to go get me
twenty go get me twenty five points a game. So
maybe we could see Baron Jay a lot sooner than
(09:36):
we anticipate. Now, he does need to get stronger, and
he needs to build a bigger frame because NBA players
are bigger and stronger and tougher than G League players,
and players will just throw the guy around like a
(09:59):
popsicle stick. He doesn't develop a bigger frame and get
stronger in the legs and stronger in the arms so
that he can throw his body around and be physical
with opposing teams. But love game one of his Summer
league because there are things that translate into the NBA
(10:24):
game that he showcased on the floor in Summer League,
And at this point in time, it is all about
what can translate into the NBA. Because Tarren Shannon Junior
it put up twenty five points and the dude can score,
(10:48):
but twenty five points is not going to translate into
twenty five points in an NBA game because he's dominating
these lesser opponents because he's bigger, stronger, faster and has
NBA experience. But when you look at his game and
you see, oh okay, uh, he could translate that scoring
(11:15):
to the NBA just in a lesser degree, coming off
the bench, providing a spark plug. Maybe he can average
eight to ten points per game. So that's how you
need to look at these summer league games. Don't look
at them for whoa he had eleven points, eight rebounds,
seven blocks. To look at him and look at how
could his stat sheet and his performance translate into a
(11:41):
tougher competition in the NBA. Could the Timberwolves utilize this
player to be useful? And Rob Dillingham had played big
minutes in the summer league. But the problem with Dillingham
(12:05):
fifteen point, six assists, two steals, played pretty good. The
problem with Dillingham was the turnovers. He could not stop
turning the ball over, and if you're going to be
a point guard in the NBA, you need to stop turning.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The ball over.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Twenty eight percent from the field seven turnovers. If you
are going to be a high level point guard, you
can't turn the ball over seven times in a summer
league game against G league opponents four for fourteen, three
(12:50):
for six. That's a disappointing performance. And hopefully he turns
it around in game two in game three. But what
I've seen from Dilly has not been good. Even when
he had a little success in the NBA last year,
(13:11):
it didn't look very fluid. It looked a little hirky jerky.
It looked a little eh, I'm not buying this yet.
And then what so annoying is that after the game
he played really well in was it against Utah? Jim
Peterson did the on court interview after the game. He
(13:34):
has stayed in his little booth or whatever with him
and Grady, but they asked him a question, it looks
kind of easy for you out there, and then Rob's like, ah,
I'm gonnadmit it. It is kind of easy. And then
you've got bench for the rest of the season. So one,
he needs a little more humbleness to his game. And two,
you cannot look at a perform Normans in summer league
(14:02):
and say, yeah, seven turnovers in the summer league. Is
going to easily translate into being the starting guard, getting
people in their place, alleviating pressure from Anthony Edwards. Stat's
fifteen point six its says three rebounds two still great?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh he's four for fourteen. He had seven turnovers.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Rob has a long ways to go, a long long
ways to go if he wants to be a consistent
rotational player in the NBA, and especially if he wants
to be a starter on the Timberwolves. I don't see
it yet. There's still time. He's still only twenty years old.
(14:49):
He's got a lot of time to improve. But as
far as what you want to see, I have not
seen it. All right, Thanks for watching. Remember five Star
Best Solutions of Minneapolis. Check them out today and thank
you for joining and watching and listening to the show.
The Grind, a Minnesota sports podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
It's been twelve thousand, five hundred and forty five days
since the Minnesota Twins won the World Series, and it's
been a grind those numbers, according to Grock on X
because this the other day, I typed in the same
question into X and it said twelve thousand, three hundred
(00:26):
and seven days. So I don't know how it went
from twelve thousand, three hundred and seven days two days
ago to twelve thousand, five hundred and forty five days today,
but maybe its skipped a few years.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Anyways, doesn't matter or days whatever, but I can sense the.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Escape from championship torture in the state of Minnesota because
did you see that performance last night?
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Did you see what it was delivered? It was incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
So that's what we're going to talk about today. But
first I need to tell you about five Star Bass
Solutions of Minneapolis, because they transformed our bathroom in forty
eight hours and that's their guarantee, and our prior bathroom
we had mold. It was disgusting, it was embarrassing, and
it was just flat out outdated and unhealthy. Floors were blue,
(01:30):
shower had mold. Handrails, a step going into the shower,
one sink, ugly countertops, and ugly mirror. They came in
forty eight hours. New floor, new tub, new surround, new countertops,
new vanity, new mirror, and we went from one.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Sinks to two sinks.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Five Star Bath Solutions of Minneapolis transformed our bathroom and
made it into a masterpiece in forty eight hours. Don't
wait eight weeks for a bathroom project to get done.
Contact five Star Best Solutions in Minneapolis and get your
masterpiece done today, all right. This performance that might change
(02:13):
the course of Minnesota sports was performed by Johann Beringer
in the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Game one of Summer League.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Eleven points, eight rebounds, seven blocks.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And if you go on the YouTube or x of.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Course after watching this video and you pull up his highlights,
he dominated this game at the rim and you can
also see how quickly he was after he blocked the
shot to explode up the court and make an impactful
(03:05):
play offensively. Because here's the really interesting part about centers
running the floor. Sometimes they get delivered and condunct the ball,
which is great they're rewarded, But other times, what happens
when they run the floor. It requires perimeter defenders to
(03:30):
sink in and stop a fast break dunk, which then
allows the wing player the guard or forward to be wide.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Open in the corner around the wing and knock down
a wide open three. And although a center isn't.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Rewarded with a assist, there's nothing at all in the
statuet that represents him making a play for a team
because he didn't pass the ball.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
All he did was run the floor.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
He made that play happen. So a center running the
floor and creating a play for a teammate to pass
to a wide open teammate is one of those significant
plays throughout the course of a basketball game that doesn't
(04:25):
get the recognition that deserves because you pull up the
statuty and the box score, and there isn't going to
be anything that showcases that he made a play for
a teammate because technically they didn't touch the ball, they
just ran the floor, and that it made the defense
(04:49):
shift into different spots which created a wide open shot
for a teammate. So eleven points, eight rebounds, seven blocks,
and I get it Summer League. So we also need
to view this objectively because what's so easy to do
especially during Summer League, is if a player stinks. I
(05:14):
remember Victor Webbinyana in his first Summer League game. He
performed terribly, and people were riding the dude so hard,
clabbering his performance and clabbering his future prospect in the NBA,
and it's like, it's the first Summer League game. Give
the dude a break, you'll be fine. But we can
(05:37):
also go the other way. When you have a seven
block performance and you're seven foot two with shoes on,
and you have long arms and you're eighteen years old,
then you have the speed, the length of the athleticism,
you can kind of go googly eyes over it and
(06:00):
go a little crazy because then you start to imagine
what it would look like in an NBA game, and
you're thinking, Wow, maybe he could play earlier than we think.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Maybe he could replace.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Rude de Gobert in a year or two based off
this Summer League performance.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
There's a few things that need to be responded to
that thought.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
One, the talent that Johann Behringer is performing against is
not NBA caliber talent. Most of them are G League players.
So the thing that what he did in game one
of Summer League is going to automatically translate into success
(06:52):
in NBA regular season games. Needs to be looked at
more objectively because he's facing against bottom tier talent in
the G League and that's who is playing in these games. However,
with that being said, there are some things that translate
(07:16):
better into the NBA than others. For example, Adam Morrison
what a name? Adam Morrison played for Gonzaga average like
twenty four to twenty five points per game, could not
score consistently in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Scoring is one.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Of those skills that doesn't always translate into the NBA
from college, or from the G League or from wherever,
because scoring at the NBA requires another level of ability
(07:55):
and skills to do it at a high level. Blocking
and rebounding dunking from the dunkers spot is much different
and translates much easier because blocking a shot is mostly
(08:18):
about anticipation and timing, athleticism and length, and Johann Behringer
obviously has great instincts and has an ability to time
on when to jump and when to block the shot,
(08:40):
has the athleticism and length to do it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
So although he's facing G.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
League talent, you're not asking Bearringer or beget to fill
in for Rudy Gobert and average fifteen to twenty points
per game. You're asking Baronjay to do is to set
a screen, block a shot, and rebound the ball, which
(09:12):
translates fifteen times easier into the NBA game than if
you were to ask a player to go get me
twenty go get me twenty five points a game. So
maybe we could see Baron Jay a lot sooner than
(09:36):
we anticipate. Now, he does need to get stronger, and
he needs to build a bigger frame because NBA players
are bigger and stronger and tougher than G League players,
and players will just throw the guy around like a
(09:59):
popsicle stick. He doesn't develop a bigger frame and get
stronger in the legs and stronger in the arms so
that he can throw his body around and be physical
with opposing teams. But love game one of his Summer
league because there are things that translate into the NBA
(10:24):
game that he showcased on the floor in Summer League,
And at this point in time, it is all about
what can translate into the NBA. Because Tarren Shannon Junior
it put up twenty five points and the dude can score,
(10:48):
but twenty five points is not going to translate into
twenty five points in an NBA game because he's dominating
these lesser opponents because he's bigger, stronger, faster and has
NBA experience. But when you look at his game and
you see, oh okay, uh, he could translate that scoring
(11:15):
to the NBA just in a lesser degree, coming off
the bench, providing a spark plug. Maybe he can average
eight to ten points per game. So that's how you
need to look at these summer league games. Don't look
at them for whoa he had eleven points, eight rebounds,
seven blocks. To look at him and look at how
could his stat sheet and his performance translate into a
(11:41):
tougher competition in the NBA. Could the Timberwolves utilize this
player to be useful? And Rob Dillingham had played big
minutes in the summer league. But the problem with Dillingham
(12:05):
fifteen point, six assists, two steals, played pretty good. The
problem with Dillingham was the turnovers. He could not stop
turning the ball over, and if you're going to be
a point guard in the NBA, you need to stop turning.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
The ball over.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Twenty eight percent from the field seven turnovers. If you
are going to be a high level point guard, you
can't turn the ball over seven times in a summer
league game against G league opponents four for fourteen, three
(12:50):
for six. That's a disappointing performance. And hopefully he turns
it around in game two in game three. But what
I've seen from Dilly has not been good. Even when
he had a little success in the NBA last year,
(13:11):
it didn't look very fluid. It looked a little hirky jerky.
It looked a little eh, I'm not buying this yet.
And then what so annoying is that after the game
he played really well in was it against Utah? Jim
Peterson did the on court interview after the game. He
(13:34):
has stayed in his little booth or whatever with him
and Grady, but they asked him a question, it looks
kind of easy for you out there, and then Rob's like, ah,
I'm gonnadmit it. It is kind of easy. And then
you've got bench for the rest of the season. So one,
he needs a little more humbleness to his game. And two,
you cannot look at a perform Normans in summer league
(14:02):
and say, yeah, seven turnovers in the summer league. Is
going to easily translate into being the starting guard, getting
people in their place, alleviating pressure from Anthony Edwards. Stat's
fifteen point six its says three rebounds two still great?
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Oh he's four for fourteen. He had seven turnovers.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Rob has a long ways to go, a long long
ways to go if he wants to be a consistent
rotational player in the NBA, and especially if he wants
to be a starter on the Timberwolves. I don't see
it yet. There's still time. He's still only twenty years old.
(14:49):
He's got a lot of time to improve. But as
far as what you want to see, I have not
seen it. All right, Thanks for watching. Remember five Star
Best Solutions of Minneapolis. Check them out today and thank
you for joining and watching and listening to the show.
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