August 12, 2025 • 18 mins
Tim discusses the recent inclusion of male cheerleaders on the Minnesota Vikings cheer squad, reflecting on societal changes and gender roles. He expresses his views on the implications of this trend and transitions into an analysis of JJ McCarthy's ranking among NFL quarterbacks, providing insights into the accuracy of the rankings and what it means for McCarthy's future performance.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Grind, a Minnesota sports podcast. Welcome into the Grind,
a Minnesota sports podcast hosted by me Tim. Make sure
you hit that subscribe button below and hit that leg
button on YouTube. Appreciate you making this podcast part of
your day. Lost of Disgust Today. J J. McCarthy has
(00:24):
been ranked twenty ninth out of thirty four possible quarterbacks
in the latest Athletic poll of NFL executives, coaches, and scouts.
This was written by Mike Sando and the Minnesota Vikings
organization as hired a male cheerleader two male cheerleaders to
(00:53):
participate in their cheer squad. With that being said, let
me tell you about Five Star Bath Solutions of Minneapolis,
because they transformed our bathroom in forty eight hours, and
that's their promise to you as well. If you want
your bathroom to be fully remodeled or partly remodeled in
(01:17):
twenty four to forty eight hours, contact five Star Bath
Solutions of Minneapolis. They remodeled our floor, our bathtom our surround,
a new shower head, They got rid of a step,
we went from a single to a double sick, a
new vanity, countertops and mirror all in forty eight hours.
(01:38):
We did not have to wait eight weeks and cram
into your teeny tiny bathroom while this project got done.
We didn't have to listen to nails and loud noises
for weeks getting headaches on end. Five Star Bath Solutions
of Minneapolis delivered our full remodel in forty eight hours.
It was incredible and that's why I'm telling you about it.
(02:02):
Five Star Bath Solutions of Minneapolis. Okay, with that being said,
let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings employing two male cheerleaders
on their cheer squad. And the Vikings have not been
(02:26):
the first team to implement this. The Los Angeles Rams
have done it. Other organizations have done it as well.
And first let me say this before I really give
my opinion about male cheerleaders. I'm surprised that this has
(02:49):
not happened sooner based on where society has gone, where
men have become women. Let me correct that, where men
have pretended to be women and women have pretended to
be men, men and women have pretended not to be
(03:11):
men or women, but have made up a random gender
that doesn't qualify them as either. You've got men playing
in women's sports. Women really don't play in men's sports.
Where do you see that? Why don't you ever see
women playing in med sports? Oh it's because they can't win.
Oh that makes sense. But society has become lost in
(03:38):
so many different areas. And to me, the biggest surprise
of this whole story is that people are surprised by it.
Look at where society has gone. Why are you surprised
that there are two males that are very feminine are
(04:00):
trying to participate on the Vikings cheerleading squad. So I've
really become unoffendable as this stuff is released and as
news stories come out about these kinds of things, because
(04:24):
it's not surprising anymore because you see it so often.
Another point that I wanted to make, and I talked
with my wife about this last night, and she had
a great point. The Golden Gophers higher male cheerleaders. Colleges
everywhere have male cheerleaders where they hoist the girl up
(04:47):
and they do flips and they do different things like that,
so that I have seen no issue with that. And
then my wife made a good point. She said, well,
depends on what their goal is. If their goal is
to just hoist the girls up and do some flips
and do some tricks. Great, but if their goal is
to appear as something else, then there's probably an issue
with it, and I would agree with that. So I
(05:09):
did some research this morning, and the male cheerleaders that
have joined the Vikings cheer squad are not the prototypical
male cheerleaders that you see in a college setting. I
(05:31):
did some research. The Rams cheerleader looks like a male
cheerleader at the college level, looks like a guy that
a hoist. Girls up do some dance, but was fine, cool,
you like the dance. Fine. The cheerleaders that have been
employed by the Vikings have a very different look about them.
(05:58):
I'm not going to share the video on this podcast,
but you can do your own research if you want to.
They have pomp poms, they're dancing more feminine, They move
and look feminine, and it's definitely a situation where these
(06:23):
two guys that are joining the cheer squad aren't necessarily
men that are prototypical men that join a college dancing,
they move, they have the finesse, They look like a
(06:45):
woman dancing on the field. And I'm not gonna say
I disagree. I'm not gonna say I agree with it
because it's not really something that I support. I don't
support men in a dominant woman field dancing like a woman,
(07:14):
Whereas it's different if you're a man trying to dance
like a woman that is oisting them up and doing
different things like that. There's a big difference in my opinion,
And there's been lots of reaction, and there's been someone
(07:36):
that responded and said something like, oh, I can't keep
my season tickets anymore, and then someone responded, well, you
literally watch a quarterback hike the ball from a guy's anus,
and you have a problem with men dancers on the sidelines.
(07:57):
The way I look at it is it's completely different
because what is the goal of these dancers. In my opinion,
based on the videos and pictures that I've seen, these
dancers are practically trying to be women. Not that they're
(08:30):
dressed as women, because they're dressed differently, but they've got
the pump pumps and they move like women. And I'm
not offended by it because I'm not surprised by it.
The shock factor has completely left. I mean, Champlain Park
(08:57):
just had a male having to be a woman win
the state championship. Stuff like this happens everywhere, and I'm
supposed to be offended by this. I'm not gonna be
offended by it, but I'm also not gonna support it either.
I'm gonna make my opinion heard and say, yeah, I
don't really agree with this situation. I wish the Vikings
(09:18):
didn't participate in allowing feminine male dancers to dance, because
you start to get to bigger picture things like men
roles and women roles, not just in sports, but in life,
(09:38):
because there is a difference, and men and women were
created differently on purpose, for a purpose. Not that the
woman always has to cook and clean and do laundry,
but there is a certain protective mechanism that the men
(09:59):
is responsible for. And when men forego that responsibility of
being the protector and being the leader, then that's where
this becomes a problem. Roles are different. This idea that
(10:28):
culture has created that men and women are created to
do the same thing is ridiculous because women can do
things better than men, and men can certainly do things
better than women. And when I see stories like this,
(10:49):
I see people that are lost and trying to achieve
something that isn't their purpose, that isn't how they were designed.
I see people trying to become something that they weren't
(11:13):
created to become. So that's my take on the male
cheerleader thing. I'm not gonna boycott Vikings games or do
any of that. And when I see people offended by it,
it's like, fine, be upset, do whatever you want. But
why are you surprised at this point in time in
(11:36):
liberal Minnesota that stuff like this is going on. Why
would you be surprised at any of this as if
it's not in our faces every single day. Anyways, let's
(11:56):
talk about McCarthy being ranked twenty ninth out of thirty
four possible quarterbacks. First, let me tell you about Hulkland
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your first order. Financially, it makes sense. You don't have
to question where your beef comes from. I mean, you
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(12:42):
dollars a pop. It's not even close. For steaks, chuck, roast, ribs,
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one one five four one all right. JJ McCarthy ran
twenty ninth out of thirty four possible quarterbacks in this
(13:02):
survey by Mike Sando interviewing executives GM scouts The Whole Thing.
Players below McCarthy, Daniel Jones, Joe Flacco, Anthony Richardson, Spencer Rattler,
and Kenny Pickett. Players above McCarthy at twenty eight, Michael
Pennox Junior twenty seven, Justin Fields twenty six, Russell Wilson
(13:26):
twenty five, Kirk Cousins twenty four, Bryce Young twenty three,
Caleb Williams twenty two, Drake May twenty, Sam Darnold twenty,
Bow Knicks, Gino Smith nineteen, Trevor Lawrence eighteen two, A
Tongue of Blewis seventeen, Aaron Rodgers sixteen fifteen, Kyler Murray.
(13:46):
When I look at this QB tier it has McCarthy
and QB Tier four, it has mahomes Borough, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, and Matthew Stafford and QB Tier one, Jaden Daniels,
Justin Herbert and Jared GoF C, J Stroud, Jalen Hurts,
Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love, Rock Party and QB
(14:10):
Tier two. And sometimes when he sees stuff like this,
you see ridiculous stuff like Jalen Hurts ranked as the
number third QB in the league because he won a
Super Bowl, or Rock Party ranked as the number fourth
QB in the league because he took the forty nine
ers to two Super Bowls despite losing them. This is
(14:33):
one of the most accurate QB tiers that you could
ever see released by a writer. And what's unique about
this is that it's not his list. It's a list
of the executives, coaches, and scouts, and McCarthy was ranked
(14:56):
where he was ranked because of the the unknown factor
that he presents. There is no projection about McCarthy's first
season as NFL starting quarterback because he missed the entire
season last year. If McCarthy was just a backup last year,
(15:18):
and it wasn't injured, I would believe that his rank
would be higher than it is right now. But he
missed the entire season last year due to injury, which
is different than being a backup quarterback, and McCarthy this season,
if he wants to prove that he's better than being
(15:40):
a Tier four quarterback and is better than other players
selected in the same draft class, he's not gonna have
to do much to prove it because Caleb Williams, Michael
Pennix Junior aren't necessarily are weren't necessarily ripping it up
(16:02):
last year. Of course, there's a room for growth, but
this is a situation where if McCarthy plays well like
Sam Darnold did last year, we could easily see McCarthy
jump fifteen spots. If McCarthy does what he has asked
(16:23):
to do and takes care of the football and is
accurate with the football, then we could easily see McCarthy
jump from twenty nine to fourteen. This is as accurate
a QB list as you'll ever see. It is opinion based,
(16:46):
but it's based off of NFL personnel, not some random
host or writer that's trying to create wow factor by
putting someone in the top five that he has not
deserved to be in the top five. McCarthy's rank of
twenty nine is very fair and it's not the worst,
(17:11):
which is also fair. I don't see anything wrong with
McCarthy being listed as the twenty ninth best quarterback in
the NFL, and you shouldn't either. There's nothing offensive about
this at all, and it really is an accurate grade
(17:33):
on all quarterbacks. I don't see one quarterback on this
list that I disagree with where his ranking is. Jalen
Hurts is about the ninth, tenth quarterback in the league.
Justin Herbert is about the seventh. Rock Party is about
the fourteenth, Jordan Love about the thirteenth, Aaron Rodgers sixteenth. Yeah.
(17:56):
I completely agree with this entire list of quarterbacks and
where they're ranked. The only question. Maybe maybe you could
throw Sam Donald higher than twentieth and put them by
the Kyler Murray or the Tua tongue of Ailoa. Maybe
you could put Sam Donald above Aaron Rodgers based on
(18:18):
the season he had last year. But that's not offensive.
It's not crazy talk to put Donald where he was.
So those are the takes for the day. Thanks for
joining the show hit that subscribe button. I appreciate you
making this podcast part of every day. Remember to check
out five Star Best Solutions to Minneapolis for your bathroom
needs and Hoakland Farms Beef nine five two four nine
(18:41):
one five four one nine two four nine one five
four one
The Grind, a Minnesota sports podcast. Welcome into the Grind,
a Minnesota sports podcast hosted by me Tim. Make sure
you hit that subscribe button below and hit that leg
button on YouTube. Appreciate you making this podcast part of
your day. Lost of Disgust Today. J J. McCarthy has
(00:24):
been ranked twenty ninth out of thirty four possible quarterbacks
in the latest Athletic poll of NFL executives, coaches, and scouts.
This was written by Mike Sando and the Minnesota Vikings
organization as hired a male cheerleader two male cheerleaders to
(00:53):
participate in their cheer squad. With that being said, let
me tell you about Five Star Bath Solutions of Minneapolis,
because they transformed our bathroom in forty eight hours, and
that's their promise to you as well. If you want
your bathroom to be fully remodeled or partly remodeled in
(01:17):
twenty four to forty eight hours, contact five Star Bath
Solutions of Minneapolis. They remodeled our floor, our bathtom our surround,
a new shower head, They got rid of a step,
we went from a single to a double sick, a
new vanity, countertops and mirror all in forty eight hours.
(01:38):
We did not have to wait eight weeks and cram
into your teeny tiny bathroom while this project got done.
We didn't have to listen to nails and loud noises
for weeks getting headaches on end. Five Star Bath Solutions
of Minneapolis delivered our full remodel in forty eight hours.
It was incredible and that's why I'm telling you about it.
(02:02):
Five Star Bath Solutions of Minneapolis. Okay, with that being said,
let's talk about the Minnesota Vikings employing two male cheerleaders
on their cheer squad. And the Vikings have not been
(02:26):
the first team to implement this. The Los Angeles Rams
have done it. Other organizations have done it as well.
And first let me say this before I really give
my opinion about male cheerleaders. I'm surprised that this has
(02:49):
not happened sooner based on where society has gone, where
men have become women. Let me correct that, where men
have pretended to be women and women have pretended to
be men, men and women have pretended not to be
(03:11):
men or women, but have made up a random gender
that doesn't qualify them as either. You've got men playing
in women's sports. Women really don't play in men's sports.
Where do you see that? Why don't you ever see
women playing in med sports? Oh it's because they can't win.
Oh that makes sense. But society has become lost in
(03:38):
so many different areas. And to me, the biggest surprise
of this whole story is that people are surprised by it.
Look at where society has gone. Why are you surprised
that there are two males that are very feminine are
(04:00):
trying to participate on the Vikings cheerleading squad. So I've
really become unoffendable as this stuff is released and as
news stories come out about these kinds of things, because
(04:24):
it's not surprising anymore because you see it so often.
Another point that I wanted to make, and I talked
with my wife about this last night, and she had
a great point. The Golden Gophers higher male cheerleaders. Colleges
everywhere have male cheerleaders where they hoist the girl up
(04:47):
and they do flips and they do different things like that,
so that I have seen no issue with that. And
then my wife made a good point. She said, well,
depends on what their goal is. If their goal is
to just hoist the girls up and do some flips
and do some tricks. Great, but if their goal is
to appear as something else, then there's probably an issue
with it, and I would agree with that. So I
(05:09):
did some research this morning, and the male cheerleaders that
have joined the Vikings cheer squad are not the prototypical
male cheerleaders that you see in a college setting. I
(05:31):
did some research. The Rams cheerleader looks like a male
cheerleader at the college level, looks like a guy that
a hoist. Girls up do some dance, but was fine, cool,
you like the dance. Fine. The cheerleaders that have been
employed by the Vikings have a very different look about them.
(05:58):
I'm not going to share the video on this podcast,
but you can do your own research if you want to.
They have pomp poms, they're dancing more feminine, They move
and look feminine, and it's definitely a situation where these
(06:23):
two guys that are joining the cheer squad aren't necessarily
men that are prototypical men that join a college dancing,
they move, they have the finesse, They look like a
(06:45):
woman dancing on the field. And I'm not gonna say
I disagree. I'm not gonna say I agree with it
because it's not really something that I support. I don't
support men in a dominant woman field dancing like a woman,
(07:14):
Whereas it's different if you're a man trying to dance
like a woman that is oisting them up and doing
different things like that. There's a big difference in my opinion,
And there's been lots of reaction, and there's been someone
(07:36):
that responded and said something like, oh, I can't keep
my season tickets anymore, and then someone responded, well, you
literally watch a quarterback hike the ball from a guy's anus,
and you have a problem with men dancers on the sidelines.
(07:57):
The way I look at it is it's completely different
because what is the goal of these dancers. In my opinion,
based on the videos and pictures that I've seen, these
dancers are practically trying to be women. Not that they're
(08:30):
dressed as women, because they're dressed differently, but they've got
the pump pumps and they move like women. And I'm
not offended by it because I'm not surprised by it.
The shock factor has completely left. I mean, Champlain Park
(08:57):
just had a male having to be a woman win
the state championship. Stuff like this happens everywhere, and I'm
supposed to be offended by this. I'm not gonna be
offended by it, but I'm also not gonna support it either.
I'm gonna make my opinion heard and say, yeah, I
don't really agree with this situation. I wish the Vikings
(09:18):
didn't participate in allowing feminine male dancers to dance, because
you start to get to bigger picture things like men
roles and women roles, not just in sports, but in life,
(09:38):
because there is a difference, and men and women were
created differently on purpose, for a purpose. Not that the
woman always has to cook and clean and do laundry,
but there is a certain protective mechanism that the men
(09:59):
is responsible for. And when men forego that responsibility of
being the protector and being the leader, then that's where
this becomes a problem. Roles are different. This idea that
(10:28):
culture has created that men and women are created to
do the same thing is ridiculous because women can do
things better than men, and men can certainly do things
better than women. And when I see stories like this,
(10:49):
I see people that are lost and trying to achieve
something that isn't their purpose, that isn't how they were designed.
I see people trying to become something that they weren't
(11:13):
created to become. So that's my take on the male
cheerleader thing. I'm not gonna boycott Vikings games or do
any of that. And when I see people offended by it,
it's like, fine, be upset, do whatever you want. But
why are you surprised at this point in time in
(11:36):
liberal Minnesota that stuff like this is going on. Why
would you be surprised at any of this as if
it's not in our faces every single day. Anyways, let's
(11:56):
talk about McCarthy being ranked twenty ninth out of thirty
four possible quarterbacks. First, let me tell you about Hulkland
Farms Beef because they have the best one per rotationally
grazed grass fed beef. It financially makes the most sense,
and it tastes like it makes the most sense. Contact
Hulkland Farms four one percent grass fed be rotationally grazed
(12:21):
nine five two four five four one. Contact Jared at
nine five two four one five four one. Tell Jared
Tim sent you and they'll give you a discount on
your first order. Financially, it makes sense. You don't have
to question where your beef comes from. I mean, you
go to the store, it's like nine dollars a pound.
You go to Hokland Farmers beef, it's just over four
(12:42):
dollars a pop. It's not even close. For steaks, chuck, roast, ribs,
and more. Hoakland Farms Beef nine five two four nine
one one five four one all right. JJ McCarthy ran
twenty ninth out of thirty four possible quarterbacks in this
(13:02):
survey by Mike Sando interviewing executives GM scouts The Whole Thing.
Players below McCarthy, Daniel Jones, Joe Flacco, Anthony Richardson, Spencer Rattler,
and Kenny Pickett. Players above McCarthy at twenty eight, Michael
Pennox Junior twenty seven, Justin Fields twenty six, Russell Wilson
(13:26):
twenty five, Kirk Cousins twenty four, Bryce Young twenty three,
Caleb Williams twenty two, Drake May twenty, Sam Darnold twenty,
Bow Knicks, Gino Smith nineteen, Trevor Lawrence eighteen two, A
Tongue of Blewis seventeen, Aaron Rodgers sixteen fifteen, Kyler Murray.
(13:46):
When I look at this QB tier it has McCarthy
and QB Tier four, it has mahomes Borough, Josh Allen,
Lamar Jackson, and Matthew Stafford and QB Tier one, Jaden Daniels,
Justin Herbert and Jared GoF C, J Stroud, Jalen Hurts,
Baker Mayfield, Dak Prescott, Jordan Love, Rock Party and QB
(14:10):
Tier two. And sometimes when he sees stuff like this,
you see ridiculous stuff like Jalen Hurts ranked as the
number third QB in the league because he won a
Super Bowl, or Rock Party ranked as the number fourth
QB in the league because he took the forty nine
ers to two Super Bowls despite losing them. This is
(14:33):
one of the most accurate QB tiers that you could
ever see released by a writer. And what's unique about
this is that it's not his list. It's a list
of the executives, coaches, and scouts, and McCarthy was ranked
(14:56):
where he was ranked because of the the unknown factor
that he presents. There is no projection about McCarthy's first
season as NFL starting quarterback because he missed the entire
season last year. If McCarthy was just a backup last year,
(15:18):
and it wasn't injured, I would believe that his rank
would be higher than it is right now. But he
missed the entire season last year due to injury, which
is different than being a backup quarterback, and McCarthy this season,
if he wants to prove that he's better than being
(15:40):
a Tier four quarterback and is better than other players
selected in the same draft class, he's not gonna have
to do much to prove it because Caleb Williams, Michael
Pennix Junior aren't necessarily are weren't necessarily ripping it up
(16:02):
last year. Of course, there's a room for growth, but
this is a situation where if McCarthy plays well like
Sam Darnold did last year, we could easily see McCarthy
jump fifteen spots. If McCarthy does what he has asked
(16:23):
to do and takes care of the football and is
accurate with the football, then we could easily see McCarthy
jump from twenty nine to fourteen. This is as accurate
a QB list as you'll ever see. It is opinion based,
(16:46):
but it's based off of NFL personnel, not some random
host or writer that's trying to create wow factor by
putting someone in the top five that he has not
deserved to be in the top five. McCarthy's rank of
twenty nine is very fair and it's not the worst,
(17:11):
which is also fair. I don't see anything wrong with
McCarthy being listed as the twenty ninth best quarterback in
the NFL, and you shouldn't either. There's nothing offensive about
this at all, and it really is an accurate grade
(17:33):
on all quarterbacks. I don't see one quarterback on this
list that I disagree with where his ranking is. Jalen
Hurts is about the ninth, tenth quarterback in the league.
Justin Herbert is about the seventh. Rock Party is about
the fourteenth, Jordan Love about the thirteenth, Aaron Rodgers sixteenth. Yeah.
(17:56):
I completely agree with this entire list of quarterbacks and
where they're ranked. The only question. Maybe maybe you could
throw Sam Donald higher than twentieth and put them by
the Kyler Murray or the Tua tongue of Ailoa. Maybe
you could put Sam Donald above Aaron Rodgers based on
(18:18):
the season he had last year. But that's not offensive.
It's not crazy talk to put Donald where he was.
So those are the takes for the day. Thanks for
joining the show hit that subscribe button. I appreciate you
making this podcast part of every day. Remember to check
out five Star Best Solutions to Minneapolis for your bathroom
needs and Hoakland Farms Beef nine five two four nine
(18:41):
one five four one nine two four nine one five
four one
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