March 28, 2025 • 26 mins
After botching an apology to Wade (Nico Greetham), Damian reluctantly spends the afternoon with an unlikely “friend.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Hookup is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse Television
and Ember twenty. Listener discretion is totally advised. Yes, you're
not Wade?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Is Wade? Wade?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What is someone here? Damien?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hide?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Wade?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Do you have a minute to talk?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello? Shirtless guy in the room. Does it look like
Wade has a minute to talk to you? Right?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, I'll just come back later, Damien.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hold on, Damn it so close, Tanner. I'm sorry to
do this, but can we take a rain check? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nice to meet you, Tanner. Sorry about that. I didn't
mean to interrupt anything.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's fine. I was having buyer's remorse anyway. Tanner's just
some metal guy.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh I thought I recognized him.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're on metal? Why haven't I ever seen you? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean for sure, not because I blocked you or
anything like that. No, chalk it up to the algorithm.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, metal is kind of mystifying. I've been on the
app a few months now and I still can't get
a handle on how it functions. What do you mean, Well,
it's not like Tinder, where you have to swipe right
with someone to match and start talking. But it's also
not like the other hookup apps where profiles are displayed
solely by proximity.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wait, yeah, he's right. I can browse profiles in the
general area, but they don't ever seem to be sorted
by any kind of human logic. The metal algorithm is
an enema like that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Ah shit, what Tanner left his fanny pack behind?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That guy brought a fanny pack to a hookup.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm sure he'll be back for it anyway. Hi,
I haven't seen you in a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I guess I have just been feeling kind of
bad about how everything went down between us last year.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And do you do you want something to drink?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, no, no, I just I need to get this out, Wade.
I'm really sorry for outing you. There's no excuse for that,
and it was unfair that you didn't get to come
out on your own terms. And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Thanks accept your apology.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You do.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Sure, you're right, there is no excuse for what you did.
But I'd be lying if I said some people didn't
already know that about me. Really well, all the other
guys I was hooking up, we sure did, and there
were quite a few. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, all good.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So was there anything else?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Uh? I mean, I guess, not specifically. I don't know.
It's just all the times I imagine this conversation in
my head. It didn't play so smoothly.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I always thought we'd really get into it. Get into it, yeah,
you know, like arguing about all the stuff between us
back then and the mistakes we both made that led.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Up to the mistakes we both made. I'm confused. Did
I out you too? No?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
But you weren't completely blameless either, blameless in what now?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is more like I imagined.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The entire thing, Wade, How you treated me, the way
I had to keep your secret, and it isolated me
from everyone the time we finally had sex.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
If it was so isolating, why did you keep seeing me?
I don't recall anyone forcing you to reply to my texts?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You mean a text's giving me a six hour window
to be on standby for a quickie in case your
roommate's left. I've seen appliance delivery men give a narrower
time I'm window than you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Did you? Did you have feelings for me last year?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like positive ones?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Damien? I don't want to be pulled back into all
this negativity. I've done a lot of healing and growing
since then.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I've seen your growth. Every time you run a campus
fundraiser for LGBTQ health services, I see it. And every
time you hold a telethon for gay puppies on hospice care,
I see it. Anytime, Wade there's a reminder that you've
become a paragon of gay sainthood. Believe me, I see it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What does that even mean? Are you angry that I
learned to love myself?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, yes I am, because I don't get to love myself.
I've had to work so hard to not feel like
a used condom on the side of the road because
that's how you treated me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, come on, that is such crab mentality.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Stop? Damien? Just I accept your apology. Can we just
leave it at that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I get it. You didn't really come here to offer
an apology. You came to solicit one.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, I just I came to boil the centipede?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is that? Did you just reference those centipedes that you
have to boil or else they attract more.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's like every time I've tried to write off or
justify what I did to you last year, it just
felt like I was squshing my problems, you know, pushing
them down, but in doing so, releasing pheromones to attract
even more problems.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So you came to boil the hatchet once and for all.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Wow, you picked up on that metaphor fast. It took
my psychiatrist like three sessions to get on board.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
May I there was this guy that I knew last
year in a biblical sense, yes, but it wasn't just that.
He was the first guy that I ever developed actual
feelings for. And when I think about those days and
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the way I treated people, because you're not completely wrong,
I could be kind of a dick. I think a
lot of it came from the pain of knowing this
guy didn't reciprocate my feelings and hating myself for thinking
that he ever would. I only bring him up because
the centipede thing reminded me.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Why was was he a bug?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
No? What he was? He was the one who told
me about it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Wait, no, no way, there is no way.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
The only reason I still remember about the stupid centipede
is because he read about it in the nat geo
he was holding when he broke it off with me.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Is he talking?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean he can't be talked talking about There's no
way Santy and Wade were Oh, because if that were
the case, and Santy did end things with Wade, which
Wade himself just admitted turned him into an angry person,
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could that mean and there it is who remembers the
word of the day Mony.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I can't handle it all at once.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It needs to stay separate Santy Popper's drama over there
and wade drama over here. I mean, even if we
sholve the immense jagged pain I feel at the thought
of Santy and Wade together, it had never occurred to
me that Wade could be involved in any of this, Damien.
And that's not even taking into account Elias's damning testimony
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that Santy may actually have been producing the hookup himself.
If that does turn out to be the case, Wade's
association with Santy makes him doubles us.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Hey you okay.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Moreover, since I blocked him on Metal, Wade could be
on there pedaling the hookup with reckless abandon and I'd
have no way of seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And if Wade did kidnap.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Or kill Santy, not to mention running a conversion popper scheme,
that would totally be a worse crime than me outing him, Damien.
If Wade is the mastermind and I can prove it
that I was never in the wrong with him, fuck yeah,
emotional maturity.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Are you all right, dude?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sorry? Yeah, just fill in Migraine. Coming on, Actually, do
you do you have the advilla or anything?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Sure in the bathroom under the sink?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Could you get it for me?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Hi, Damien, Chair chair chair Chair, Damian, What the fuck
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Kind of an extreme reaction, I know, but there's no
time to play the long con with Wade. If he's
up to something sinister, I want to know now, Okay,
if I was a murderer and or bioterrorist, where would
I keep my incriminating clues?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Damien?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
If you don't let me out, you're gonna what kill me? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Damian?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
What are you doing looking under your mattress for clues?
Goodbye pillows, goodbye fanny pack. M I had high hopes
about that, Woof. I was so taken by the possibility
of Wade's guilt that I perhaps didn't think through the
scenario in which I lock him in the bathroom and
don't find any damning evidence. Ooh, Damien, you dunce way
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to jump to conclusions. There's no way that Wade is.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Damien. Are you still there?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Under the desk right beside Wade's bed, I spot it,
even amidst the tornado of papers and debris I've created
in my search. That stout little cylinder is unmistakable a
popper bottle, a hookup bottle that's not gonna hold much longer.
And I don't want to be here when Wade gets free.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I've seen what I needed too. Could Wade really do
all this?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm here? What the fuck of me?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My entire face stings. It's happening so fast I can't see.
All I can make out are the colors, big blotches
of pink and mustard, my stalker, Oh the fuck you
love me? That punch pulls me back, and my vision
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sets clearly on my aggressor.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh yeah, that's the crustic bad mitten hoodie.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
All right, I sprangle my left arm free and yank
down his hood to no avail. His face is concealed
under one of those black one way elastic masks. What
do you do.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
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Speaker 3 (11:36):
Have you ever been choked?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not in a sex way, although I mean I do
have questions about that too, but no, I'm talking like,
full on I am going to murder you suffocation. My
situation right now isn't exactly that. I mean, I could
breathe in through my nose if I wanted to, but
that's not really an option, not when I know what
will happen to me if I do so. I start
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to feel lightheaded, woozy, disconnected, like I'm drifting away. But
in this moment everything feels weirdly transparent, like I can
finally think clearly without all the mental clutter. And where
does my mind drift? Surprisingly? Not to Santy, not to Mateo,
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Big Top or the hookup either, not even Wade, who
given the very recent discovery that he isn't my stalker.
I may have been too quick to brand the mastermind. No,
the only thing left inside my brain right now is.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Metal.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Still you hold your phone low and open up Metal,
the hookup app currently in vogue. I can browse profiles
in this general area, but they don't ever seem to
be sordid by any kind of human logic.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
About two days after inhalation, the blackout started. I suddenly
come to with no recollection of the past hour or afternoon,
or even a full day.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But the notification tone rattles me to my court. It's
just so grated.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I heard the metal alert sound plays on an uncharted frequency.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Get the fuck out of here. Wait, dude, are you okay?
Who the fuck was that?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
We have to stop him?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Which way did he You don't think you're stopping anything
right now except maybe breathing anyway, he's gone. Shit. You
need to tell me what's going on right fucking now?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Hello, There on the floor over by your bed.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
This little bottle the hook up? Or are these poppers?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Why do you have that?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't, I mean it's not mine. Yeah, look I
think it fell from Tanner's fanny pack while you were
tearing apart my room.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean, if Tanner is a hive mind hookup goon.
It would explain how the stalker knew I was here.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What exactly is it you think I did? Is this
about Santi? Thought? So you got all weird when I
talked about him earlier, I.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Was being weird. You're the one hiding a secret history
with a missing person.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I wasn't hiding anything. I spoke to the police right
after Santi disappeared and told him everything I know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Ugh, okay, but still, let's be one hundred percent sure
before clearing Wade's name. I feel like I was on
the verge of something back there, you know, when I
was being choked something about Metal and the night when
Big Top and p and Peter attacked me, I was struggling.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Ah, take a big with my.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Bra and then I got a Metal alert? Well what
just what is what is going on?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Who are you guys while you're my.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And that's when they became lucid and like snapped out
of the hookup trance. I can't put my finger on
how metal and the hookup are connected, but I'd wager
that the alert tone insight some sort of temporary reaction
from people under the Hive Mind's influence, which means there's
a very easy way to test if weight is one
of them.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, let's see who's online? Hmmm, oh this guy should do.
He's a forty year old commercial airline captain and his
username is backdoor Pilot.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Hey there, how's it hanging?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Now? We wait?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Are you on metal right now? What the fuck is
wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Damien?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You come over here unannounced in search of some misguided
come up, and and when you don't get it, you
lock me in a bathroom and start tearing my place apart.
Then after I rescue you from being fucking attacked, you
start browsing at dating app.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I mean when you put it like that, I
really must seem.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
What now you're not going to check that? A?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
How do I? How do I feel? Oh? You know?
Can't complain? Oh wait, yes I fucking can. What the
fuck is happening?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So you're like Lucid?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Unfortunately? Yes, dear god, I'm still very much present for
this conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Alrighty, guess I misjudged Wade about being like hook up evil.
I was definitely right about him being a dick. She'sh
backdoor Pilot. Give it a rest. Oh, it's just another
ad for that sex shop on Metal? Yeah? Why is that?
Is that weird?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
No? I guess not. I've just never seen ads on
there before.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hmm up until today, neither had I. So so if
we follow this thread of metal intervention, what does it
mean that the app has been showing pap up ads
to me but not to Wade. The only explanation that
comes to mind is that they're not ads at all,
they're messages shock full of nuts there it is an
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adult supply boutique on Locust Avenue? Is this where people
are buying the.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Hookup directions to a sex shop? Are you in heat?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Trust me, Wade? It is so in your best interest
to leave this alone.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
This is about those paupers, isn't it? The hookup? Dude?
You're so easy to read. Finding the bottle in my
room is what made you think I'm dangerous? And that
guy who attacked you, he wasn't even covering your nose.
It was like he wasn't actually trying to hurt you.
He just wanted you to inhale the paupers.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
This seriously doesn't concern you. Just go home and then
lock your door.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right because that puts me at So there's got to
be something the faries about those paupers, and now you're
going to a sex shop to what investigate. I'm curious,
so how Sunthy fits into all this?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, take a number.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
But if whatever you're doing right now is about Sunthy,
then I am coming with you.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh my god, stop leave me alone. I preferred to
it when you were only metaphorically haunting me. You don't
know anything about what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I know you're in trouble, and I know that, whether
or not it was my fault, I caused you a
lot of pain last year.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh that was a very vander Pump apology.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Wasn't an apology, just an acknowledgment, Okay, And I'd like
to make it up to you.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well, unless you can return my virginity, don't bother fuck.
I said that out loud. I can't handle this. Which
thing you being nice to me? I imagine today going like
a thousand different ways. But the one constant in all
those scenarios was that you hated me.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, sorry to disappoint, but I don't hate you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well that's stupid. Where are you going to?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Chock full of nuts?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Still?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Whatever you're involved in is obviously dangerous, and don't take
this the wrong way, but I'm dubious that you're equipped
to handle it alone.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He's not completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I mean, if Chok full of Nuts really is distributing
the hook up, then I'd be walking directly into the belly.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Of the beast.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It could be who of me to bring back up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Plus, you don't have to worry about me getting hurt
because you don't even like me.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I mean, when you put it like that, like, I guess,
if you insist on following me, I can't stop you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Do you remember the last time we took a walk
through campus together? That night I found you at the library.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Of course, incidentally, that was also the last time I
saw you left.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What no way? We hung out a bunch of times after.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That, Yeah, but you didn't laugh anymore. After you and
I hooked up on the baseball field that night, you
became a different person.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I did. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I used to rack my brain about that night, trying
to figure out what I did that was so off
putting or unsexy. Eventually I came to wonder if I
just reminded you of what you were running away from,
and you resented me for it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You had me all figured out?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Huh, I thought, so.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, nothing is I was just remembering that night. You're
one hell at the third baseman.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Mama always used to say God gave me gumption in
place of a gag reflex. Uh, can we forget? I
said that?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Absolutely? So something really didn't tell you he and I
were hooking up?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, he and I weren't exclusive at the beginning, so
I mean, I guess he didn't have to tell me.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But it still hurts that all that time you thought
he was yours he was also.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's right, I'm not the only one reeling from the
revelation that Santy had other toys wades in the exact
same boat. Did Santi tell you he was also hooking
up with me?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Must have slipped his mind there.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was thinking you were the other guy, but to you,
I was the other guy. I guess we're all the
other guy to other guys. Hey, what did you mean
before when you said I had crab mentality?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Have you ever seen a bunch of crabs in a bucket?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Not lately?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, it's kind of crazy, even though a handful of
them could probably climb atop the others and escape. No
crab ever makes it out of the bucket. Why not, Well,
because the others won't let them. Even though the escape
of Crab A has no effect on the fate of
crab B, crab still sabotages Crab A's efforts. And it's like,
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it's like, if I can't escape, no one will.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's petty as fuck. Oh oh, so, so your point
was that it's messed up for me to begrudge your
new found happiness just because I haven't found mine. Fuck,
I'm such a crab b.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We've all got a little crab b, you knows. I
guess that's why there's a term for it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Man, If that's for anyone else but Wade, these crustacean
metaphors would really.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Have me going, what now you're looking at me? Weirdly?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Sorry, spaced out, Honestly, I was just thinking about how
crabs always walk sideways, and then trying to make a
joke about getting dick so good I can't walk straight.
Yeh shit. What we were like having an actual conversation
about about actual stuff and I made a joke, so
whole big thing. It's it's a problem I have.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Who said it's a problem.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Like most people in my life.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
H I disagree for real five reel And all those
people who told you it was a problem probably just
punishing you because they don't possess such refined wit. Say,
is there a term for that? Ah? Shit?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We're here?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Damn When did sex shops start looking like apple stores?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Wade seems almost excited by this megalith of pleasure, But
I hang back a sec. I mean, at what point
did I stop hating him, that dumb little fire in
my chest reminding me just how hard I detest this boy.
It's kind of extinguished, which is as far as it's
going to go. I will not myself forgive him or
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get attached because there's something I didn't have the heart
to tell Wade about his little crab mentality spiel earlier.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
See, there's a flaw.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
In the conclusion being drawn from this Crabs in the
Bucket experiment. Sure, the escape of Crab A won't directly
mean anything bad for Crab B. But if enough crabs escape,
the crab level in the bucket would eventually fall too
low for any more to reach the top. At a
certain point, stopping other crabs from escaping does preserve one's
own chance of survival. So it's not really correct to
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say that crabs want others to fail purely out of spite. No,
I think in some situations, crab mentality is a vital
self preservation instinct. It's certainly what I'm holding on to
is Wade, and I approach this impending uncertainty because as
much as I hope it doesn't come to this, I
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have to be ready, ready should the need arise to
throw him down and climb his shell out of the bucket.
And if that makes me an evil person, then fine.
But lest we forget, I am a Crustwick, Crustacean. So
what you call crab mentality, well, I just call it
School Spirit. Written and directed by Noah Feinberg. That's me,
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sound design and score by Jeremiah Zimmerman, Starring Noah Feinberg.
That's Me as Damian Ray Santiago as Santy and Matteo,
Nico Greatham as Wade, Augustus Prue as Elias, Scott Evans
as Big Tough, Jeffrey Self as bell Boy, Tina Majorino
as Doctor Wiley, Obi A. Bailey as p n Peter
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Gabrielle Ruiz as Joma Sadie Dickinson as Meg. Additional voices
by Megan Taylor Harvey, Susan C. Bennett, Verona blue Mark Bramhall,
Bryan Daniel Porter, Chris Dickey, Aaron Cooker, Christopher Corbin, Kiff,
Vanden Huevel, and Rhys Griffin. Opening theme by Alex Yoder,
Casting director Sonny Bowling and Meg Mormon. Executive producers from iHeart,
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Trevor Young and Matt Frederick. Executive producers from Blumbhouse Chris
Sticky and Noah Feinberg. That's Me. Executive producers from Ember
twenty David Thwaites and Jimmy Jellina. Supervising producer Rachel Foley,
editor Noah Feinberg. That's Me,
The Hookup is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse Television
and Ember twenty. Listener discretion is totally advised. Yes, you're
not Wade?
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Correct?
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Is Wade? Wade?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What is someone here? Damien?
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Hide?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Wade?
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Do you have a minute to talk?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Hello? Shirtless guy in the room. Does it look like
Wade has a minute to talk to you? Right?
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Yeah, I'll just come back later, Damien.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Hold on, Damn it so close, Tanner. I'm sorry to
do this, but can we take a rain check? Seriously?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
Nice to meet you, Tanner. Sorry about that. I didn't
mean to interrupt anything.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
It's fine. I was having buyer's remorse anyway. Tanner's just
some metal guy.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh I thought I recognized him.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
You're on metal? Why haven't I ever seen you? Fuck?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I mean for sure, not because I blocked you or
anything like that. No, chalk it up to the algorithm.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yeah, metal is kind of mystifying. I've been on the
app a few months now and I still can't get
a handle on how it functions. What do you mean, Well,
it's not like Tinder, where you have to swipe right
with someone to match and start talking. But it's also
not like the other hookup apps where profiles are displayed
solely by proximity.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Wait, yeah, he's right. I can browse profiles in the
general area, but they don't ever seem to be sorted
by any kind of human logic. The metal algorithm is
an enema like that.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Ah shit, what Tanner left his fanny pack behind?
Speaker 1 (01:50):
That guy brought a fanny pack to a hookup.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Yeah, I'm sure he'll be back for it anyway. Hi,
I haven't seen you in a minute.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Yeah, I guess I have just been feeling kind of
bad about how everything went down between us last year.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
And do you do you want something to drink?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (02:14):
No, no, no, I just I need to get this out, Wade.
I'm really sorry for outing you. There's no excuse for that,
and it was unfair that you didn't get to come
out on your own terms. And I'm sorry.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
Thanks accept your apology.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
You do.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Sure, you're right, there is no excuse for what you did.
But I'd be lying if I said some people didn't
already know that about me. Really well, all the other
guys I was hooking up, we sure did, and there
were quite a few. I'm sorry. I didn't mean it
like that.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Yeah, all good.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
So was there anything else?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Uh? I mean, I guess, not specifically. I don't know.
It's just all the times I imagine this conversation in
my head. It didn't play so smoothly.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I always thought we'd really get into it. Get into it, yeah,
you know, like arguing about all the stuff between us
back then and the mistakes we both made that led.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Up to the mistakes we both made. I'm confused. Did
I out you too? No?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
But you weren't completely blameless either, blameless in what now?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
This is more like I imagined.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
The entire thing, Wade, How you treated me, the way
I had to keep your secret, and it isolated me
from everyone the time we finally had sex.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
If it was so isolating, why did you keep seeing me?
I don't recall anyone forcing you to reply to my texts?
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You mean a text's giving me a six hour window
to be on standby for a quickie in case your
roommate's left. I've seen appliance delivery men give a narrower
time I'm window than you.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Did you? Did you have feelings for me last year?
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Like positive ones?
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Damien? I don't want to be pulled back into all
this negativity. I've done a lot of healing and growing
since then.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I've seen your growth. Every time you run a campus
fundraiser for LGBTQ health services, I see it. And every
time you hold a telethon for gay puppies on hospice care,
I see it. Anytime, Wade there's a reminder that you've
become a paragon of gay sainthood. Believe me, I see it.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
What does that even mean? Are you angry that I
learned to love myself?
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Yes, yes I am, because I don't get to love myself.
I've had to work so hard to not feel like
a used condom on the side of the road because
that's how you treated me.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Oh, come on, that is such crab mentality.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What the fuck is that?
Speaker 2 (04:55):
Stop? Damien? Just I accept your apology. Can we just
leave it at that?
Speaker 4 (05:06):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (05:07):
I get it. You didn't really come here to offer
an apology. You came to solicit one.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, I just I came to boil the centipede?
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Is that? Did you just reference those centipedes that you
have to boil or else they attract more.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
It's like every time I've tried to write off or
justify what I did to you last year, it just
felt like I was squshing my problems, you know, pushing
them down, but in doing so, releasing pheromones to attract
even more problems.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
So you came to boil the hatchet once and for all.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Wow, you picked up on that metaphor fast. It took
my psychiatrist like three sessions to get on board.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
May I there was this guy that I knew last
year in a biblical sense, yes, but it wasn't just that.
He was the first guy that I ever developed actual
feelings for. And when I think about those days and
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the way I treated people, because you're not completely wrong,
I could be kind of a dick. I think a
lot of it came from the pain of knowing this
guy didn't reciprocate my feelings and hating myself for thinking
that he ever would. I only bring him up because
the centipede thing reminded me.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
Why was was he a bug?
Speaker 4 (06:35):
What?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
No? What he was? He was the one who told
me about it.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
Wait, no, no way, there is no way.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
The only reason I still remember about the stupid centipede
is because he read about it in the nat geo
he was holding when he broke it off with me.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
Is he talking?
Speaker 1 (06:58):
I mean he can't be talked talking about There's no
way Santy and Wade were Oh, because if that were
the case, and Santy did end things with Wade, which
Wade himself just admitted turned him into an angry person,
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could that mean and there it is who remembers the
word of the day Mony.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
I can't handle it all at once.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
It needs to stay separate Santy Popper's drama over there
and wade drama over here. I mean, even if we
sholve the immense jagged pain I feel at the thought
of Santy and Wade together, it had never occurred to
me that Wade could be involved in any of this, Damien.
And that's not even taking into account Elias's damning testimony
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that Santy may actually have been producing the hookup himself.
If that does turn out to be the case, Wade's
association with Santy makes him doubles us.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Hey you okay.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Moreover, since I blocked him on Metal, Wade could be
on there pedaling the hookup with reckless abandon and I'd
have no way of seeing.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
And if Wade did kidnap.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Or kill Santy, not to mention running a conversion popper scheme,
that would totally be a worse crime than me outing him, Damien.
If Wade is the mastermind and I can prove it
that I was never in the wrong with him, fuck yeah,
emotional maturity.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Are you all right, dude?
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Sorry? Yeah, just fill in Migraine. Coming on, Actually, do
you do you have the advilla or anything?
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Sure in the bathroom under the sink?
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Could you get it for me?
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (08:57):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Hi, Damien, Chair chair chair Chair, Damian, What the fuck
are you doing?
Speaker 1 (09:05):
Kind of an extreme reaction, I know, but there's no
time to play the long con with Wade. If he's
up to something sinister, I want to know now, Okay,
if I was a murderer and or bioterrorist, where would
I keep my incriminating clues?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Damien?
Speaker 1 (09:21):
If you don't let me out, you're gonna what kill me? Oh?
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Damian?
Speaker 1 (09:26):
What are you doing looking under your mattress for clues?
Goodbye pillows, goodbye fanny pack. M I had high hopes
about that, Woof. I was so taken by the possibility
of Wade's guilt that I perhaps didn't think through the
scenario in which I lock him in the bathroom and
don't find any damning evidence. Ooh, Damien, you dunce way
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to jump to conclusions. There's no way that Wade is.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
Damien. Are you still there?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Under the desk right beside Wade's bed, I spot it,
even amidst the tornado of papers and debris I've created
in my search. That stout little cylinder is unmistakable a
popper bottle, a hookup bottle that's not gonna hold much longer.
And I don't want to be here when Wade gets free.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I've seen what I needed too. Could Wade really do
all this?
Speaker 1 (10:25):
I'm here? What the fuck of me?
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
My entire face stings. It's happening so fast I can't see.
All I can make out are the colors, big blotches
of pink and mustard, my stalker, Oh the fuck you
love me? That punch pulls me back, and my vision
(10:50):
sets clearly on my aggressor.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Oh yeah, that's the crustic bad mitten hoodie.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
All right, I sprangle my left arm free and yank
down his hood to no avail. His face is concealed
under one of those black one way elastic masks. What
do you do.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
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Speaker 3 (11:36):
Have you ever been choked?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Not in a sex way, although I mean I do
have questions about that too, but no, I'm talking like,
full on I am going to murder you suffocation. My
situation right now isn't exactly that. I mean, I could
breathe in through my nose if I wanted to, but
that's not really an option, not when I know what
will happen to me if I do so. I start
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to feel lightheaded, woozy, disconnected, like I'm drifting away. But
in this moment everything feels weirdly transparent, like I can
finally think clearly without all the mental clutter. And where
does my mind drift? Surprisingly? Not to Santy, not to Mateo,
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Big Top or the hookup either, not even Wade, who
given the very recent discovery that he isn't my stalker.
I may have been too quick to brand the mastermind. No,
the only thing left inside my brain right now is.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Metal.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Still you hold your phone low and open up Metal,
the hookup app currently in vogue. I can browse profiles
in this general area, but they don't ever seem to
be sordid by any kind of human logic.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
About two days after inhalation, the blackout started. I suddenly
come to with no recollection of the past hour or afternoon,
or even a full day.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
But the notification tone rattles me to my court. It's
just so grated.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
I heard the metal alert sound plays on an uncharted frequency.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Get the fuck out of here. Wait, dude, are you okay?
Who the fuck was that?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
We have to stop him?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Which way did he You don't think you're stopping anything
right now except maybe breathing anyway, he's gone. Shit. You
need to tell me what's going on right fucking now?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Hello, There on the floor over by your bed.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
This little bottle the hook up? Or are these poppers?
Speaker 1 (13:52):
Why do you have that?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
I don't, I mean it's not mine. Yeah, look I
think it fell from Tanner's fanny pack while you were
tearing apart my room.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I mean, if Tanner is a hive mind hookup goon.
It would explain how the stalker knew I was here.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
What exactly is it you think I did? Is this
about Santi? Thought? So you got all weird when I
talked about him earlier, I.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Was being weird. You're the one hiding a secret history
with a missing person.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
I wasn't hiding anything. I spoke to the police right
after Santi disappeared and told him everything I know.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Ugh, okay, but still, let's be one hundred percent sure
before clearing Wade's name. I feel like I was on
the verge of something back there, you know, when I
was being choked something about Metal and the night when
Big Top and p and Peter attacked me, I was struggling.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Ah, take a big with my.
Speaker 3 (14:50):
Bra and then I got a Metal alert? Well what
just what is what is going on?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Who are you guys while you're my.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
And that's when they became lucid and like snapped out
of the hookup trance. I can't put my finger on
how metal and the hookup are connected, but I'd wager
that the alert tone insight some sort of temporary reaction
from people under the Hive Mind's influence, which means there's
a very easy way to test if weight is one
of them.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
What are you doing?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Okay, let's see who's online? Hmmm, oh this guy should do.
He's a forty year old commercial airline captain and his
username is backdoor Pilot.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Nice.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Hey there, how's it hanging?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Now? We wait?
Speaker 2 (15:40):
Are you on metal right now? What the fuck is
wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (15:45):
Damien?
Speaker 2 (15:47):
You come over here unannounced in search of some misguided
come up, and and when you don't get it, you
lock me in a bathroom and start tearing my place apart.
Then after I rescue you from being fucking attacked, you
start browsing at dating app.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, I mean when you put it like that, I
really must seem.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
What now you're not going to check that? A?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (16:11):
How do I? How do I feel? Oh? You know?
Can't complain? Oh wait, yes I fucking can. What the
fuck is happening?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
So you're like Lucid?
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Unfortunately? Yes, dear god, I'm still very much present for
this conversation.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Alrighty, guess I misjudged Wade about being like hook up evil.
I was definitely right about him being a dick. She'sh
backdoor Pilot. Give it a rest. Oh, it's just another
ad for that sex shop on Metal? Yeah? Why is that?
Is that weird?
Speaker 2 (16:46):
No? I guess not. I've just never seen ads on
there before.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Hmm up until today, neither had I. So so if
we follow this thread of metal intervention, what does it
mean that the app has been showing pap up ads
to me but not to Wade. The only explanation that
comes to mind is that they're not ads at all,
they're messages shock full of nuts there it is an
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adult supply boutique on Locust Avenue? Is this where people
are buying the.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Hookup directions to a sex shop? Are you in heat?
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Trust me, Wade? It is so in your best interest
to leave this alone.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
This is about those paupers, isn't it? The hookup? Dude?
You're so easy to read. Finding the bottle in my
room is what made you think I'm dangerous? And that
guy who attacked you, he wasn't even covering your nose.
It was like he wasn't actually trying to hurt you.
He just wanted you to inhale the paupers.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
This seriously doesn't concern you. Just go home and then
lock your door.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Right because that puts me at So there's got to
be something the faries about those paupers, and now you're
going to a sex shop to what investigate. I'm curious,
so how Sunthy fits into all this?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Yeah, take a number.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
But if whatever you're doing right now is about Sunthy,
then I am coming with you.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh my god, stop leave me alone. I preferred to
it when you were only metaphorically haunting me. You don't
know anything about what's going on here.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
I know you're in trouble, and I know that, whether
or not it was my fault, I caused you a
lot of pain last year.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Oh that was a very vander Pump apology.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Wasn't an apology, just an acknowledgment, Okay, And I'd like
to make it up to you.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well, unless you can return my virginity, don't bother fuck.
I said that out loud. I can't handle this. Which
thing you being nice to me? I imagine today going like
a thousand different ways. But the one constant in all
those scenarios was that you hated me.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Well, sorry to disappoint, but I don't hate you.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Well that's stupid. Where are you going to?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Chock full of nuts?
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Still?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Whatever you're involved in is obviously dangerous, and don't take
this the wrong way, but I'm dubious that you're equipped
to handle it alone.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
He's not completely wrong.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
I mean, if Chok full of Nuts really is distributing
the hook up, then I'd be walking directly into the belly.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Of the beast.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
It could be who of me to bring back up.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
Plus, you don't have to worry about me getting hurt
because you don't even like me.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
I mean, when you put it like that, like, I guess,
if you insist on following me, I can't stop you.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
Do you remember the last time we took a walk
through campus together? That night I found you at the library.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Of course, incidentally, that was also the last time I
saw you left.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
What no way? We hung out a bunch of times after.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
That, Yeah, but you didn't laugh anymore. After you and
I hooked up on the baseball field that night, you
became a different person.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
I did. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
I used to rack my brain about that night, trying
to figure out what I did that was so off
putting or unsexy. Eventually I came to wonder if I
just reminded you of what you were running away from,
and you resented me for it.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You had me all figured out?
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Huh, I thought, so.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
What?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Oh, nothing is I was just remembering that night. You're
one hell at the third baseman.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Mama always used to say God gave me gumption in
place of a gag reflex. Uh, can we forget? I
said that?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Absolutely? So something really didn't tell you he and I
were hooking up?
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Well, he and I weren't exclusive at the beginning, so
I mean, I guess he didn't have to tell me.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
But it still hurts that all that time you thought
he was yours he was also.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's right, I'm not the only one reeling from the
revelation that Santy had other toys wades in the exact
same boat. Did Santi tell you he was also hooking
up with me?
Speaker 2 (21:22):
Must have slipped his mind there.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
I was thinking you were the other guy, but to you,
I was the other guy. I guess we're all the
other guy to other guys. Hey, what did you mean
before when you said I had crab mentality?
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (21:38):
That?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Have you ever seen a bunch of crabs in a bucket?
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Not lately?
Speaker 2 (21:43):
No, it's kind of crazy, even though a handful of
them could probably climb atop the others and escape. No
crab ever makes it out of the bucket. Why not, Well,
because the others won't let them. Even though the escape
of Crab A has no effect on the fate of
crab B, crab still sabotages Crab A's efforts. And it's like,
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it's like, if I can't escape, no one will.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's petty as fuck. Oh oh, so, so your point
was that it's messed up for me to begrudge your
new found happiness just because I haven't found mine. Fuck,
I'm such a crab b.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
We've all got a little crab b, you knows. I
guess that's why there's a term for it.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
Man, If that's for anyone else but Wade, these crustacean
metaphors would really.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
Have me going, what now you're looking at me? Weirdly?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Sorry, spaced out, Honestly, I was just thinking about how
crabs always walk sideways, and then trying to make a
joke about getting dick so good I can't walk straight.
Yeh shit. What we were like having an actual conversation
about about actual stuff and I made a joke, so
whole big thing. It's it's a problem I have.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Who said it's a problem.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Like most people in my life.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
H I disagree for real five reel And all those
people who told you it was a problem probably just
punishing you because they don't possess such refined wit. Say,
is there a term for that? Ah? Shit?
Speaker 1 (23:21):
We're here?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Damn When did sex shops start looking like apple stores?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Wade seems almost excited by this megalith of pleasure, But
I hang back a sec. I mean, at what point
did I stop hating him, that dumb little fire in
my chest reminding me just how hard I detest this boy.
It's kind of extinguished, which is as far as it's
going to go. I will not myself forgive him or
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get attached because there's something I didn't have the heart
to tell Wade about his little crab mentality spiel earlier.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
See, there's a flaw.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
In the conclusion being drawn from this Crabs in the
Bucket experiment. Sure, the escape of Crab A won't directly
mean anything bad for Crab B. But if enough crabs escape,
the crab level in the bucket would eventually fall too
low for any more to reach the top. At a
certain point, stopping other crabs from escaping does preserve one's
own chance of survival. So it's not really correct to
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say that crabs want others to fail purely out of spite. No,
I think in some situations, crab mentality is a vital
self preservation instinct. It's certainly what I'm holding on to
is Wade, and I approach this impending uncertainty because as
much as I hope it doesn't come to this, I
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have to be ready, ready should the need arise to
throw him down and climb his shell out of the bucket.
And if that makes me an evil person, then fine.
But lest we forget, I am a Crustwick, Crustacean. So
what you call crab mentality, well, I just call it
School Spirit. Written and directed by Noah Feinberg. That's me,
(25:18):
sound design and score by Jeremiah Zimmerman, Starring Noah Feinberg.
That's Me as Damian Ray Santiago as Santy and Matteo,
Nico Greatham as Wade, Augustus Prue as Elias, Scott Evans
as Big Tough, Jeffrey Self as bell Boy, Tina Majorino
as Doctor Wiley, Obi A. Bailey as p n Peter
(25:38):
Gabrielle Ruiz as Joma Sadie Dickinson as Meg. Additional voices
by Megan Taylor Harvey, Susan C. Bennett, Verona blue Mark Bramhall,
Bryan Daniel Porter, Chris Dickey, Aaron Cooker, Christopher Corbin, Kiff,
Vanden Huevel, and Rhys Griffin. Opening theme by Alex Yoder,
Casting director Sonny Bowling and Meg Mormon. Executive producers from iHeart,
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Trevor Young and Matt Frederick. Executive producers from Blumbhouse Chris
Sticky and Noah Feinberg. That's Me. Executive producers from Ember
twenty David Thwaites and Jimmy Jellina. Supervising producer Rachel Foley,
editor Noah Feinberg. That's Me,
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.