Jenkins and Jonez - Celtics Stinker, Vogel Fired, Luka’s Presser

The guys discuss the Boston Celtics losing badly to the Cleveland Cavaliers (5:00), the Mavericks evening the series against the Thunder (23:00), Frank Vogel being fired (28:30), the great athleticism debate (40:30), and a lot more. #volume

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Welcome to Jenkison Jones on the Volume Podcast Network.

Speaker 5 (01:36):
It is Thursday of May ninth.

Speaker 4 (01:37):
We got another awesome night of NBA basketball playoff basketball
to talk to you about. We're also talking about Frank
Vogel getting fired should the Laker. We'll talk about it.
We're gonna talk about this NFL versus NBA players athleticism debate,
and we're gonna discuss and we want to hear from
the chat later on on the dumbest ways that We've

(01:58):
ever injured ourselves. But to start with Jenkins and Jones
hosted by Dragonfly Jones aka Tyler, Hey, everybody have the
Jethro Jenkins aka Vegas John was that Bubba's I'm going to.

Speaker 5 (02:13):
Be a ka Mike Mother fucking mother fucking Mike.

Speaker 4 (02:19):
And we're produced, as always by the lovely and talented
and never sarcastic Jackson South.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Where are we talking like soccer today? Or we'll get
to it.

Speaker 5 (02:32):
Can you catchphrase? Jackson?

Speaker 6 (02:35):
The show?

Speaker 5 (02:36):
So you do your fucking catchphrase?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Bro, it's everybody recording because I don't know if I
missed the prompt, but.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Tyler, I am recording now.

Speaker 4 (02:54):
Absolutely, I'm recorded right now. Certainly that was a question, right,
Have I recorded right now? Yes, right now? I am recorded?
All right? Should we talk about that game first? Jackson, mister,
I'm so confident the Boston Bozo's do it again, and

(03:14):
we're gonna pretend to be surprised about it again, even
though this is what they fucking do. They're five hundred
at home with Tatum and Brad. They're five hundred against
good teams. They're five hundred against bad teams. This is
what they do. We always act like we're surprised. Obviously
they could come through and win this shit in five.

(03:36):
But none of us should be surprised, except for Jackson,
who could not possibly have been more smug about this
fucking series, which is now going to the heartland of
the United States of America tied one to one.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
First, Yeah, step.

Speaker 4 (03:57):
To the step to the podium.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:00):
I mean, like you said, strangely not surprising, which like
leaves me strangely not as stressed as I feel like
I could or should or like definitely should be after
getting smoked at home in.

Speaker 3 (04:14):
Game two and back to back rounds. What I'll say
is it leaves me.

Speaker 7 (04:20):
Certainly definitely concerned about next round and a potential finals matchup.
I'm still not particularly concerned about this round.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
Now.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
If I will say, and the Cleveland is at home
in game three, they should you know, that's where they
got to protect their home court or whatever. If the
Healthies go down one to two, I will be concerned
about this round. I'm not concerned about this round as
of this moment. I do think this is a very
bad sign for the potential conference finals or finals matchup.

(04:50):
Like this is it's one of those things. It's it
feels like a cliche, but I do think it's true that.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Great teams don't do stuff things like this. They just don't.

Speaker 7 (05:00):
They don't do things like this, not not just consistently. Anyways,
Maybe you like an a laying egg every once in
a while. But it's the fact this is not surprising
half the time at home is I mean, I don't
think they've laid eggs half the time, but fifty five
hundred record at home in the playoffs is not good.
And this is too back to back game twos in
the same playoffs against teams that have one good offensive.

(05:23):
I guess the Caps have Darius Carland also, but like
they should not be getting outscored by the Cleveland Cavaliers
by twenty points.

Speaker 4 (05:31):
By twenty four points.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
It just it just simply should not have.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
Yeah, And so I don't know, I'm not still not
stressed about this round. I will be stressed Saturday night
if they lose. But it's not a good sign. I'm
I'm happy to administ.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
I'm completely on the same page with you.

Speaker 1 (05:46):
Where this is a repeated pattern where you know the
subf to do for a stinker like every series, but
you know that that stinker is not going to have.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Them cough up a series to a lesser team.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
It's something that you can you're gonna be concern about
when they play the legit teams where you cannot afford
to let a game slip past you, Right, So yeah,
I'm with you on that. I don't think they're in
trouble with this Cleveland squad in this series. But it's
just not a good sign that this team just always
has a stinker every fucking series like that, Bro, is.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
This the like one of the best teams that consistently underperforms?
Like when do we see a team this good that
gets their ass beat?

Speaker 5 (06:24):
You know what I mean? This much, especially at home,
it's just so weird.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
I just haven't seen a team like this that just
do they take their foot off the gas?

Speaker 5 (06:34):
Is it laziness? You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Like, what is it about this team that they play
teams that they just shouldn't be good.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
They shouldn't even be competing with them.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
They're breaking records in the regular season, getting the playoffs,
and they have games like this in every series.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
It's so weird.

Speaker 4 (06:52):
Tatum seven of seventeen, Brown, seven of seventeen, they're white,
three of eleven, Drew Holiday two of seven. The team
shot forty one percent. They were eight of thirty five
as a team from three at home?

Speaker 3 (07:08):
Is that bad?

Speaker 4 (07:11):
It's not bad for me? I love I love it.
I think I get this sense of I don't want
to say entitlement, but I think you're so right about
the character of the team. That's like and and I
would add, by the way, the Lakers have had many
teams like this over the last several years. It's like

(07:33):
they think because they're the Boston Celtics, because they've got
a good seed, that they are entitled to something. And
I don't like, look at how the look at how
the Nuggets played in last year's playoffs, look at how
the Timberwolves are playing in this year's playoffs. The Timberwolves
are playing like they're the Minnesota Timberwolves, Like we have
to rip the head off of every opponent we're going
to play. The Celtics, it's like they play like they're

(07:54):
the two time defending champs or something. It's like, well, well,
it's like even the way you were just talking about it,
it's like, well, we'll push this switch, like we'll flip
the switch when we need to. So you haven't won
anything yet, and you're the overwhelming favorites in these playoffs
and you still just come out and I mean, you
don't score one hundred points, and it's just it's it's

(08:15):
totally baffling.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Is they should be the hungriest team in the playoffs
being how good they they've been in the regular season
and how bad they've played in the playoffs, you know
what I mean. And also they got close to winning
a Chip one, you know, two years ago, and and
and and and had some stinkers like yo, y'all should
be the hungriest team.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
You've been too good not to win ship.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
It's you know, and it just seems like they have
these games where they're just they got out rebounded handily.
You know, you got killed on the boards, but Jared
Aute on the fucking bitch, best rebounder on the bitch,
and y'all getting kid.

Speaker 5 (08:49):
On the boards. That's just the lack of effort.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
It's like we don't care where the you know, like
like like Mike was saying, entitlement and if I just
don't understand it.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
It's and I know it hurts you like Jackson's a
southerns fan, but you're a Jason Tatum fan. I mean,
he's from your he's from your hat.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (09:07):
You like, I don't get that too.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
And when watching him, they don't even seem affected.

Speaker 5 (09:13):
Did they even seem affected by what was going on
on the court.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It didn't seem like it truly it bothered them, like
like like it should have, you know what I mean, Like.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Murray's throwing shit after this loss.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
You feel me like I'd rather have somebody act an
asshole and act like they don't give a fuck.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
You know what I'm saying. After a ass will be
you know at home. It's crazy.

Speaker 7 (09:34):
Yeah, And this is certainly not Drew Holliday's fault because
he's like the third or fourth or fifth best player
on the team. But I do this was sort of,
in my mind, was a big part of the Drew
Holliday acquisition was to theoretically avoid these kinds of losses.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
You have a guy who has.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
Won a championship, who is who can speak to you,
can both of the defense can speak to a lot
of these sort of challenges. That could be a stabilizer
type of player when he brown who We've have enough
evidence at this point to say they're not as consistent
as Celtic fans would like them to be and so
far not happened. No, no stabilization from Drew Holliday. Christafts

(10:11):
is out, which like whatever.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
And and I don't know.

Speaker 7 (10:14):
This is the first time in a while I've said
that I've kind of come around on Joe Miszula first
time in a while where I was like, what why
is Xavier Tilman playing? Why is Xavier Tillman playing? I
know that they're getting out rebounded. Why the hell is
Xavier Tillman in the game? I do not understand why
Xavier Tillman is playing some of the rotations. For the

(10:34):
first time, I was like, man, I got not not
switch the philosophy.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
Yeah, the philosophy. That's a lot of fucking three. Like, Bro,
you're missing this mini threes. You have to have a backup.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
Playing, you're not eating. How do we figure it out?
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Like, I look at Jason Tatum, and I love Jason
Tatum's game. He settles so fucking much. Bro, if you're
not making shots, get to the fucking rim. It's like,
it's not an option form. It's just I just don't
get it. I just don't understand this team, a team
that's this good and has moments like this, and then

(11:11):
with good teams just troubles.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
That's Mike Rand Now, that's Mike Ran.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Now.

Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah, I saw sad today, so I forget exactly what
the number was, but it was that since Joe Mizula
has been the head coach of the Celtics, they have
the most blown, the most losses when a double digit favorite,
which is very talking about.

Speaker 4 (11:32):
They were a thirteen point favorite tonight and they lost
by twenty four point.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
Which is exactly what we're saying. It's It's one thing.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
It's one thing to have a stinker like the nuggeted
against the Timberwolves, right against a team that looks dominant,
that were like they should they be the favorites to
win the title, that's how dominant they look. It's another
to do it against a team that just needed fifty
from Donovan Mitchell in Game seven or whatever it was,
against a team of twenty three year olds.

Speaker 4 (11:57):
A team of twenty three year olds with three score
is on the floor.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
Right, who I very much like their Lando Magic.

Speaker 7 (12:02):
It's not that, but like the Cavs took them to
it took them seven games, and the Celtics are losing
to that team by twenty six And I know that
three point variants, all this all this stuff, but like
at the end of the day, it's it's fucking.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Nut up or shut up time, Like what are we talking?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Look, this is why I got a lot of Celtics
fans who are who are tweeting me that I was
just being a hater when I said I thought the
Magic could give them a series. This is it, man, Like,
they're just it's an easy team to throw a wrench
in the works. Like whether it's because of the attitude
or whether it's because of character or coaching, whatever it is,
like the pattern has been proven at this point, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
So I just it's it's a team that's really good,
and it seems like any team can beat them in
one game. Yes, you know, game to game that could
be the best team in the NBA, But any team
can beat them, you feel me. And I just don't
get that, Like when you see really good teams, you
know there's guaranteed wins. There's no fun guaranteed wins with

(13:01):
his Celtics team because they can just lay an egg
at any moment.

Speaker 5 (13:07):
Yeah, it's frustrated. As a Tatum fan, I'll be like,
what the fuck?

Speaker 3 (13:12):
The chat is kind of light me up right now.
But this is this is a great one from from
John John A said.

Speaker 7 (13:19):
Someone on Twitter said Tatum is the Michael Jordan of
Tobias Harris's God, they do.

Speaker 5 (13:25):
It like that one.

Speaker 2 (13:33):
John's going, this is no, this is this is the
thing with Tatum. Now, this is the thing with Tatum.
I feel like Tatum doesn't. I think Tatum has the
ability to he has the skill to flip that switch.
I don't know if he has the mentality, you.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
Know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
We'll see a great game when he drops fifty, But
we don't need necessarily for you to drop fifty in
a game seven. We need for you to consistently grab
hold of a game and take this motherfuck over when
you see it's going the other way. Like, Tatum has
to have the ability to be like, all right, give
me the fucking ball.

Speaker 5 (14:08):
That's the thing that's talking about With Brunson.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Jalen Brunson was like, bro, Like he he's a guy
that's like I'm going to put the game in my
hands and mold this shit so we can fucking win.
How often do we see Jayson Tatum not do that
in big moments? Like you to be the guy, you
have to do that, you know what I'm saying. We're
seeing and Edwards do that this series and then his playoffs.
You know what I'm saying, We've seen him consistently do that,

(14:32):
and I just Jason Tatum does not do that, and
he has a skill to why the fuck aren't you.

Speaker 1 (14:38):
I just I just always go back to Tatum when
I'm watching him in the playoffs, and I think of
that serious he had risus KD, and I was like, bro,
I think he might be ready to take that leap
in to be the best player in the world. After that,
before we start, he put against KD where he was
getting buckets, getting all the Kd's jersey, making shit typicalt
gave kat would I think was the worst playoff series
of his career right, And I was like, yo, I

(14:58):
was like, this dude might be the best playing in
the world one day. And it's just he hasn't taken
that leap. Like he's still a bad motherfucker. That don't
get me wrong, motherfucker. Yeah, but it's it's just like
I feel like we've seen the Tatum that Tatum could
fully be, and everyone sees that except for him.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
You know, That's what it feels.

Speaker 5 (15:15):
We felt this way for three years. There's like it seems.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It feels like the majority of the time when I'm
looking at Tatum, I'm thinking, this guy can be the
best player in the world, like yes, for years, and
then we see in the playoffs where these things happen.
You know what I'm saying, Like, I just I don't understand.
It's the city needs this nigga with Saint Louis needs baby,

(15:39):
We'll be rooting for you.

Speaker 5 (15:40):
You feel me, Like, come on, bro, I hope you
have any.

Speaker 7 (15:44):
The fifty in Game seven thing is evidence that he's
one of the best tough shot makers.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
In the entire NBA right period.

Speaker 7 (15:52):
And I don't know if it's a skill thing, or
a mentality thing, or some kind of or something else,
but the thing that he seems to be lacking that
someone like Jaylen Brunson has is the ability to get
himself a really high percent and shot any any possession
he wants. Tatum is is like, I think he's a
significantly better like tough shot maker than Jalen Brunton. Jalen
Brunton is way better at getting shots that are easy

(16:14):
for him than than Tatum.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
He gets to his spots, you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
And then Jason like I think he's a fact that
he's tall, the fact that he's so skilled. He leans
on that when times when like Bro too the bucket,
and even when he gets to the bucket, we'll see
a lot of this dipsy doing shit.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Nigga, you are a fucking six ' nine. Go with that, nigga, Chess,
Why the fuck are you trying to nigga? Fuck out
at a boy and ship. You go to the rim.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Either I'm getting a bucket or I'm getting fot. I'm
leaving with something. He leaves the fucking.

Speaker 5 (16:39):
Paint a lot with nothing. Nigga like my nigga.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Bro, like nigga going wait with the cute shit with
the light skids shit, nigga, you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (16:49):
You know you know you know what I mean. You
know you know your hot nigga. Shit, Bro, you from
you saying my nigga, Come on, Bro.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
Yeah, he had a he had a plus minus of
negative twenty two tonight.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
That's not good.

Speaker 7 (17:03):
I still I still I'm talking ship, But I still
think they're gonna win the series in fis James.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
But you know, it's all about the next series and
beyond that.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
And he's a great and I'm not trying to shoot.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
We all say he's a good player, he's a great player,
but bad motherfucker. We just want him to take it
to the level that we all think again, like Tyler said,
and it's just frustrating.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
We don't all want him to. That's fine with me
at St.

Speaker 5 (17:29):
Louis.

Speaker 4 (17:31):
I love I love, I love, I love Jason Tatum.
I genuine do love Jason Tatum also, and I'm rooting
for in my year and behalf as well. But yeah,
he just happens to be on a team that you know,
I would say this because Jackson is not the only
Celtics fan I know who is so smug about this
fucking series too, And I just but it's funny because

(17:52):
it's kind of like that mentality from the team bleeds
over into the fans. It's like, what makes you feel
that confident about Like I was talking about it before
the series, like they lose half their games at home
with this coach and these star players, so like what
where does the confidence come from? It's like, well, you
think the Celtics are going to blow a game to
the Calves at home? Like yes, consistently, what would make

(18:17):
you think that you know you haven't been watching the
last three seasons.

Speaker 7 (18:23):
I mean, the confidence in the first two rounds comes
from the fact that they make the conference finals a
lot more than they don't.

Speaker 3 (18:29):
With Jayson Tatum on the roster, that's where the confidence.
They don't. They very rarely don't even don't make it
half far.

Speaker 7 (18:37):
So that got to give credit a certain amount of
credit in that sense that when he has been on
the roster, they are making the conference finals super fair.

Speaker 4 (18:46):
And I mean, we're talking a lot of shit on
a team that's gonna win this series by five games,
But I don't give a fuck because this was the
night to talk shit, and we picked and Jackson picked
Thursday because you wanted to make sure we could talk
about the Celtics Cavs series. And so here we are.
This is the game that we got to talk about tonight.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
So he got his wish.

Speaker 4 (19:03):
He got his wish. We also had a great game
in Oka see the MAVs winning one hundred and nineteen
to one hundred and ten to even that series up.
We needed this series to be good because some of
these series in this round are not going to be
super competitive, some of which are not a surprise, some

(19:24):
of which are a surprise, but we needed this MAVs
thunder series to be the one. Lucas scored twenty nine.
He was doing the like young athlete thing that I love,
where when he was scoring, he looked healthy, and when
he was not scoring, he looked very injured. You know
what I mean. It's like ah, and then you hand
him the rocket. Ooh, I don't know. I got a

(19:45):
little and he feels pretty fresh right now.

Speaker 5 (19:49):
The rock.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
You forget you tired, you know what I mean? You
don't injured, so I'll get it.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
I get it.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
Yeah, that's but this show is cracking me up. Do
you think that the thunder Her arena looks a little
dumb when they're losing? They like everyone wearing the same
T shirts thing. It looks a little silly, doesn't it. No,
you don't think so. Twenty thousand Oklahomas just sitting on
their hands, all wearing the same T shirt, looking like
a big old family reunion.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
I have big city bias, but this is big city buys.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Besides together and ship like. You know, we're dance the
dipsy do ask motherfuckers out there?

Speaker 3 (20:29):
That's all I got.

Speaker 5 (20:34):
You know what? I mean, I think they look at him.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
What was what was interesting about this game was like,
did y'all see Kyrie? I have never seen him so like,
you know, has a tant to shoot. It's very you
know what I mean, very passive offensively, and it's I mean,
they were there were times where I'm like, yo, Kyrie
got the shot. You feel me, he's looking the past.

(21:00):
I've never seen him play like that before. I mean, he,
i mean did a great job finding an open man.
But like, you know, also you a bucket, nigga, Like
we need that because you know, this might be the
best game we ever see Tim Hardaway junior playing playoffs.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Ever, Bro, this isn't gonna happen again, nigga, You know
what I mean? PJ Washington when he dropped thirty something
like that, Yo, nigga.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
PJ Washington At twenty nine, Tim Hardaway two or four
from three, seventeen points on sixty percent shooting. But yeah,
Kyrie had nine points on eight shots tonight in a
win on the road.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Kyrie had the fifth most field goal attempts on their
team tonight. He thatot that's crazy.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
I wonder, I don't know he from the jump, he
looked like that, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
I I mean it looked I would say this, it
looked intentional. It looked like the plan was for him
to just try and get a lot more people involved,
and maybe maybe that was what the intent was. It's
kind of weird, but it definitely works, and he was
I mean, he's such a good facilitator even so, like
he had a couple passes on the break that were
like not easy passes that made easy layups, you know

(22:04):
what I mean. So I don't know that it's just
a weird plans in this series.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
I like the maps too. I think it's a weird
I like him in this series. I think I think
they got a real shot. I think we bought we
all picked the maps in the series when they first
came in. But I mean, it's just a weird approach
when Luca's hurt, you know what I mean, Like Luca
getting sixteen in the first quarter, like and then you
know that's that's with a bum knee. Do we are

(22:31):
we expecting him to drop thirty balls with a bum knee?
I think I feel like that, like Tyree would have
to step up and score more, not you know, hoping PJ.
Washington and Tim Hardaway Junior would save you. You know
what I mean? Less minutes for Lively too?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Please? God damn bro? Yeah, worthless. You know what I mean.
I'm like, what the like? Bro?

Speaker 2 (22:56):
He get here with a beautiful pass, nigga, a drop step.
You've been practicing this for fifteen years? Probably, Bro, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Backboard no rim I'm like, bro, got got got you do? You?
Are you playing with no filangies?

Speaker 2 (23:10):
You got a thumb and a palm, niggas, that's what
you got the way they got no touch nigga, You
feel me hit the body, punch at the fucking back
for me. We hit the backboard that hard on a
butter roll nigga, don't ah man anyway.

Speaker 7 (23:26):
Yeah, we have a we have an electric electric YouTube
chat tonight, Elijah said Kyrie got overwhelmed being in a
state was so flat. That was so flat gave him
fat flashbacks to YouTube page twenty six.

Speaker 3 (23:40):
W chat today.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Thank you. I just said. I just said, if I
can if I can see the horizon and it's a
straight line, why are they telling me that the Earth
is round?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I also notice that Kyrie's beard goes pretty far down
on his neck.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
This is a weird thing that I noticed.

Speaker 4 (24:04):
Like, what was your man like, you know as this one?

Speaker 5 (24:07):
Yeah, yeah, I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
But it's like it actually curves. It goes with the curve.
You're like, what do you cut it right here? Like
what will make that decision? But anyway, he got a
full beard and I got this nigga, So.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
You know you have that on purpose. You could grow
his beard if you wanted to, you just choose not to.

Speaker 5 (24:24):
Yeah, absolutely, that's what we'll go with. That's what we'll
go with.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, all right, Frank Vogel fired by the Suns today.
You know, I mean, I look like we talk about
all the time fired in an NBA NFL coaches salute,
like great job to have. But man, this dude like
had the front offices that the teams he had and
then basically got fired for having to coach the rosters

(24:51):
that the GMS gave to him. Because I like, what
was he supposed to do with this Suns team?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Bro?

Speaker 4 (24:57):
He didn't sign Bradley Beald to that contract. I don't know.
But the question is, it looks like Mike Budenholzer is
going to the Suns. So of the options available if
you're a Lakers fan, you want a coach with a
championship pedigree, who's proven he can win with superstars in

(25:17):
a high pressure environment, who could maybe maximize the defense
out of this team that has a defensive player of
the Year caliber center and Anthony in Anthony Davis. Is
Frank Vogel not the exact guy that they should be
looking for? Or am I a fucking lunatic?

Speaker 3 (25:34):
I mean, I would love Vogel back.

Speaker 1 (25:35):
Like I said, I think all of us kind of
agree he got a raw deal there, you know, so
I want to be against it. But like I said, Bro,
I'm just of the belief that Bron is going to
be the shot call on this one man, and I
don't And you know, with the way shit ended with
him and during his last Lakers sent Like like I said,
I don't think he was the terrible guy for the job.
I think he held his own. I think he had
just got to cut a raw deal. But if Bron

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is out on him, like, I don't think it happens, Bro.
I think it's that simple.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Was there an issue with Briun? I mean I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
I wonder if they would even fire him without Broun's consent,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 5 (26:08):
But was there an issue.

Speaker 2 (26:10):
With brun and and and like, has this happened where
a guys you know, got fired and then two years,
year and a half later he's back coaching the team.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
Like I think that Jackson with the Lakers, All right, Okay, okay, yeah, yeah,
but it's I just, I just I don't think he
got fired.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I don't don't think he got fired. But yeah, yeah,
I just it's just I don't know. I would hope
they would make it right. He should never have got
let go, like like we've all said it was, you know,
he got a raw deal. But I don't I don't,
like I'm time to say, gee, I don't know if
if Brin was out of him, then I don't know
what would make him, you know, be back, be back

(26:48):
when I'm back at this point, you know what I mean,
Maybe he sees how she has been since he's left,
and like.

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Here's here's here's one thing I would say about Braun
as we do know he's he's not just of the
x's and o's, but of the overall trends of the game. Right,
Like we've seen him move to move to be to
shooting more jumpers, et cetera, like he sees the bigger trends.
There's no way you're not looking at the last four
years of the experience of the Lakers and going, we

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fucked up by getting rid of KCP, We fucked up
by getting rid of like of the role player pieces.
And if he's smart, in my opinion, he's seeing Frank
Vogel as a part of that. But it has to
be that you notice what you're missing and you have
a desire to get it back. And so maybe just
like you said, the last couple of years, and then
watching the Nuggets and the Timberwolves and the depth pieces

(27:40):
that they have, like understanding that is what's winning championships
in the NBA right now. And I don't know why
he would still be playing in the league if his
goal is not to win championships. So there has to
be some feeling of let's do what we can do
to maximize what little of the window remains. I mean,
I just that's what I hope, at.

Speaker 5 (27:58):
Least want to chip with the guy, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Like, do you really think JJ is gonna jump right
into the seat and win a fucking ship. Like as
great as he's been, that's gonna be very difficult. You know,
He's not you know, like what we saw Steve Kerr
do that. I mean, that's that's he's an anomaly. I
don't see JJ making this team a championship team with

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his coaching ability. You want to chip with Vogel, run
it back, dog, figure it out.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
I think he's the best option for show.

Speaker 3 (28:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, And I'm I'm especially biased to coaches who are
who lean, who are defensive leaning, if you have found
ways to figure out offenses in this league, right, like
like like we saw the master class that he put
off on against Jokic, you know, in the mubble with
with that three headed monster of Javel, Dwight and ad right,
just brilliant scheme in there to shut down the eventual

(28:52):
best player in the world. Like I said, I lean
on the side of defensive minded guys because, like I said,
if you found out ways to figure offenses in this
fucking league, like you know basketball, you know, flat out,
and I believe that you can have some assistants that
can kind of you know, pick up the low with
the offensive ship. So yeah, I'm I'm really high on Vogal.
Like I said, I think he caught a raw deal
when he got the boot last time. But like I said, Bro,

(29:13):
I think that the the final statement. With all these
discussions about coaching, it's going to come down if this
guy is Bronze guy or not. I really think Brian
has so much bull here.

Speaker 5 (29:22):
And dude, that's what he did too.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Like he you know, he figured out, but he knows
what he knows and he knows what he doesn't. He
got the people he needed for the offensive side, and
he focused on the defense. You feel me, and they
you know, they want a tip do it? So I
don't know, Bro, I just don't. I don't see it happening.
I don't see it happening. But I wish you would
me either.

Speaker 4 (29:40):
Here's my plea to lebron James. Do you remember when
Frank Vogel was coaching the team and the opposing team
would score less points every passing game in a series.
Do you remember playing against the Nuggets the last two
years and watching the exact same game happen every single
game we had. The Lakers had a lead and then
the other team made some adjustments and pulled ahead. And

(30:01):
even the same motherfucker made the game winning shot, Like
let's go back to you know. I mean, I think
it was the the cause I'm with Tyler. I love
defensive basketball. It's it's it's not as apparent, like you
have to really be paying attention to games to see it.
But I remember I think it was a Portland series
for the Lakers when it was like Dame went off
for like forty or something, and then in game one

(30:24):
and then every game they scored less and he scored less,
and it was like, that's what you want from a coach,
and yeah, like the fact of the matter is we
don't all we we just really don't know what all
the adjustments are as you're watching the game. But you
can see what the impact is when a guy is
consistently turning the water off for the other team, And
I missed that. That was fun. Pair that with the

(30:44):
best basketball mine on the court in a physical freaking
Anthony Davis, like, do that again and throw some actual
help around them.

Speaker 5 (30:51):
With all due respect, all.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
Right, Austin Rivers, I get them. It's not happen. It's
not gonna happen. But it's just like sitting right there.

Speaker 5 (31:04):
Well, when we were playing.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
It was really cool seeing us get the shots we
want and other people not get the shots they want.
That's what the Timberwolves are doing, you know what I'm saying,
That's what the Nuggets suit us. You feel me, it's
it's it's it's we know what to do. We just
don't have the guy that can do that. And Frank
Woles a guy that can do that, and you probably
will probably won't.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Even Chad is almost a fifty to fifty split about it.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
I think I've had a talk.

Speaker 3 (31:32):
I did a poll that's fifty two forty eight in
favor of hiring.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
But it's like that's more people than I would have
thought would be in favor of hiring. Yeah, I've had
a lot of.

Speaker 5 (31:41):
Anti bugle, Like, I don't really know people.

Speaker 4 (31:43):
Lakers fans are crazy and they hate their fucking coaches.

Speaker 7 (31:46):
I also think, how many how many success stories do
you have? You've seen a guy having a second stint
with the team. Probably not that common.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
It's a unique situation.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
YEA, certainly, certainly.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
But the chat is basically like, yeah, I don't know
if JJ what Like JJ doesn't have a championship experience himself.
Legim is not good. Elijah just said they should just
said Mark Jackson.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Period. So no, no.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
No, this this, this is the thing about Mark Jackson.
I think Mark Jackson is good with the team, Like
I think he's good with the.

Speaker 5 (32:15):
Team, A young team.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
I don't know if he'll get a I think the
Warriors needed Car to come in for them to get
to get to where they're at, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
But I think he's good at good. I think he's
good with the young team.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
I think this this, this team doesn't need what Mark
Jackson will offer, even though I think Mark Jackson is
another shot.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
The same thing I feel about Kenny Atkinson, which is
another name that's being floated. He like brought those like
D'Angelo Russell, like upstart nets into like a seven seed,
and people were.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Like, damn overachieving. But then you're not.

Speaker 7 (32:42):
You're not probably doing much beyond overachieving as a heat
or whatever.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
There's three different kinds of jobs for NBA coaches. There's
guys that you hire while you're tanking. There's guys that
you hire that could take you from Oh we thought
they'd be an eleven seed, but they're actually the seventh seed.
And then there's guys to take you from one through
six to winning a championship. And from my perspective, yes,
Steve Curzy anomaly. I don't look to find a new

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guy who can do that into one of the handful
of guys who you know has done it and can
do it, and just fucking hire that guy. And I
would add that's the Lakers philosophy. I mean, like, go
get Phil Jackson, you know, like obviously Frank brog was
not Phil Jackson. But I don't know. That's my perspective
on it. And I do think Mark Jackson deserves another shot.
But after reading all the post mortems on what was

(33:31):
going on with him in Golden State when he was
we don't need the We don't need all the religious
stuff and everything else with the Lakers, bro, Like like
the Lakers are too old for all that shit. Dog,
you know what I mean, They're just like old. They
want to win and go home. They want to win
and go home, bro, you know what I mean? Yeah,

(33:53):
what John.

Speaker 5 (33:55):
You would God have with your mind?

Speaker 2 (33:57):
He all always got beef, like every pod and so
point you got beef for God?

Speaker 4 (34:02):
You know what I mean? Well, he I mean on
a on a team full of a probably pretty religious
Golden State Warriors hit. There was some real weird ship
that happened in that building.

Speaker 5 (34:13):
Bro, Bro and.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Stephan her It's like, all right, that's enough, Jesus, you
gotta calm.

Speaker 4 (34:18):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (34:22):
Too long. It's for stuff.

Speaker 1 (34:24):
Did you ever hear that story about when when Mark
Jackson like went to church with Steph and had the
preacher pour a holy water on his ankles after the
injuries and made stuff get up and dance and ship.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Did you ever hear that's the story?

Speaker 4 (34:37):
Yes, that's I just can't really picture that with Lebron
James at this age. Doc, I just can't really picture.

Speaker 3 (34:44):
Was like to get some holy water.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
On grinny you feel me, Hey, but I'm guy.

Speaker 4 (34:53):
I'll give God this though. That ship works.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
Hey, while we're talking, he looked like God's favorite for really.

Speaker 5 (35:02):
Nothing happened, you know what I mean. That's God's paper
basketball player for so nigga?

Speaker 2 (35:07):
You mean so, I don't know put that, Hey, get
brought in church, that nigga do the gritty holy water.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
We need four more years in this man. Fuck you know,
get on the good side of guy. You we need it.

Speaker 8 (35:23):
Keep got some God in your life so much.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
Fucking bron rolls his ankle and does that. I'll just
fix my body by lacing my shoes up tighter thing.
And then Mark Jackson comes over and lays hands on
him with child.

Speaker 7 (35:45):
It's so funny that we talked about that story, because
right before you talked about that story at the Chat,
Funk Doc eleven one, eleven twelve said He's gonna pour
holy water on a D's knees, and Jay Jay Living said,
pour holy water on the bronze hairline.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
Got poor, the poor, that holy Monox hairline. That hairline.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
I'm a believer.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
I hey, send me some holy water to I got
the I got, I got the holy rubin foam.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (36:18):
Give me some strands off.

Speaker 4 (36:23):
You're just you're just doing it right here.

Speaker 5 (36:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (36:36):
Austin Rivers has some comments this week that I'm excited
to talk to you guys about. I'm sure the Chat
will be excited to share their opinions. He went on
the Pat mccaffee show Pat McAfee Show and said that, uh,
he could take thirty players right now from the NBA
and throw them in the NFL, but you could not
take thirty NFL players and put them in the NBA

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with sort of the underlying claim that it's a lot
easier to make a career in the NFL or to
get to the NFL that it is to the NBA.
And a lot of people have been really pissed off
in different directions about this. So I'm curious about your
guys's thoughts on whether Austin Rivers is correct or not.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
I'm gonna read a tweet from my guy, Andrew Hawkins.
That's the homie right there. Shots to Andrew, and he
had the tweet that I think just pretty much summed
up the whole argument, bro, where he said, the number
one job requirement of being an NFL player is to
be semi psychotic with little to zero regard for your body.
Now you listen to me thirty NBA players here in

(37:36):
this thread with examples, please, And I don't think you
can come up with thirty NBA guys who pit that criteria, Bro.
I really don't like the athleticism is there for sure,
Like John Morant would be like probably the best wide
receiving the world if he really like locked in on football.
But I just don't think those guys have the fucking
mind state. Bro, I really don't. Like Halt said, you
are playing a game where every series you know it,

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it could possibly end in a very violent collision for you.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (38:03):
Like, you gotta be wired a different way to be
a football player, Bro, And I do not think NBA
players are wired like that.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
I agree with that too. Would also think there's not
thirty football players that can make it an NBA.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
I think, oh, I think, I think. I think on
both sides people that are arguing. I think everybody wrong.
I don't think you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (38:20):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (38:21):
I think Austin Rivers is exactly right. You could turn
Giannis into an NFL player. You cannot teach any n
the NFL player the level of skill required to be
an NBA player.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
You don't you think, I just Montres Harrel, I feel like.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Thirty numbers.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I mean, I feel like the thirty number of things
up here. If we're saying like, who if you can
take one example and and and convert them, I'm probably
inside like, yes you can. You can turn a great
NBA play into a great NFL.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
I do think that.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
I don't think if you're a great NFL wid receiver
to a great NBA player. I agree there, but that
thirty number.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Just like that, Bro, you can turn like four NBA
players in the NFL players. I think you could turn
zero anything that isn't an NBA player into an NBA player.
I just think the skill level at this point is
just wight. Like you can't turn NCAA all Americans who
aren't NBA players into into NBA, like basketball players into

(39:19):
NBA players. It's just such a different thing and football, Like,
I mean, I have nothing but first of all, yes,
you have to be nuts to be a football player.
Jirell Casey who's from Long Beach, who is a seven
time Pro Powl defensive tackle, he's my height. You pass
that dude at Ralphson. He's six foot one and like
a little bit heavy, Like you know what I mean.
Like it's really more about the mentality, whereas with the NFL,

(39:42):
with the NBA, like there's so much skill development that again,
like you talk about centers who never shoot a three
ton hit fifteen threes in a row and they're not
even allowed to shoot in the game, you know what
I mean. So I just think it's it's that to me,
is this it's that skill level more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Also, like four NFL teams make up the entire NBA, right,
it just is easier, Like it's just is easier, you know.

Speaker 5 (40:07):
And there's way more people that can play football.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
There's any more, you know, Like long has produced one
hundred and fifty NFL players and eighteen NBA players. There
just are more NFL players than NBA players.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
And I think like that, like you were saying too,
Like you know, NFL players aren't as physically impressive, like
that mindset he's there. But like if you look at
the like the measurables of NBA players, it's not like
I told you, I saw Josh Smith in the in
the in Lenox Mall. You feel me, And it looked
like he was dragging his arms twenty feet behind him.

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I had never seen a man built like that. You
feel me, right, And I'm like when you see NBA players, like, oh,
I see why you're NBA player. You're built like humans
aren't built. You know what I'm saying. If you see
NFL players, NFL players are built like humans or mindset
is just crazy. You feel me, And so it's just
harder to win the lottery that you would need to
win physically, you know, say genetically, you know, to play basketball.

Speaker 5 (41:06):
But either way, like I said, like a thirty number
ain't no way fuck you mean, yeah, not happening.

Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, that that thirty is where too much dip falls
on the chip.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
But but like you said, like like you know, take
for instance, Randy Moss, Like, who I think it's the
most talented, physically talented wide receiver we've ever seen, six
foot four, which is freakishly tall for a wide receiver.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
That's the undersized two guard in the NBA B.

Speaker 4 (41:24):
He's Steph Curry. Yeah, he's the same height as Steph Curry.

Speaker 9 (41:29):
Right.

Speaker 4 (41:29):
Oh. Rob Gronkowski one of the most physical, freakish NFL
players we've ever seen. He's six foot six, two hundred
and sixty pounds.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Bro.

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Like, congratulations, you're a shooting guard.

Speaker 3 (41:41):
Bro, you got a lot of fucking tight end in
the world.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
But congratulations you're in the G league, my nigga.

Speaker 4 (41:49):
Yeah, you feel me, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (41:52):
That's why it's like Miles Garrett, who like is often
thought of as one of the best basketball playing football players.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
He's six ' Ford. He's like a truck, but he's not.

Speaker 7 (42:01):
Do you think that guy is staying in front of
Darius Garland and Donovan Mitchell, Like they're not in the
same it's not the same type of athletic.

Speaker 5 (42:10):
Says yeah, yes, well fucking incredible, fucking athlete. You know
what I'm saying. Had the size, there was no way
he was going to be in the league, you know
what I mean. It's just it's just difficulty.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
I mean, the one I would put like this is
that Aaron Donald and Trey Young are the same height.
Like it's just like they're just two different And like
whenever people bring up hardest sports or whatever else, it's like, yes,
you may absolutely make your case for hitting a baseball
is like almost physically impossible. I point out with soccer,

(42:45):
people complain about those dudes flopping whatever. I think the
average professional soccer player runs like four and a half
miles or five miles during a soccer game. Like there's
all these insane skill levels that we don't think about.
But to me, there's just no question, and it would
be football or basketball that you would say is the
highest skill level required. I'm sorry, soccer, soccer, football or

(43:08):
basketball the highest skill level, and the NBA, to me,
without question, is the most athleticism and skill combined required
to play it. It's impossible to play. And if you're
the best in the world at those skills but you're
six foot, it's gonna be a really really hard slog
for you to even like get a pinky in the

(43:30):
door of the Summer League, you know what I mean.
You can, you can.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
If you don't win the Genetic Lottery, you still can
work your way into THEFL and even be competitive, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (43:41):
Like in the NBA minimum is to win the genetic Lottery,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
There's if you if you haven't and you worked away
in the NBA, like you said, you are a two
way guy, you know what I mean. Like the only
people I've known that haven't had like been extremely athletic
that made it to the NBA were guys that were like,
you know, two way guys, never had like real you know,
careers or you know what.

Speaker 5 (44:05):
So it's it's just it's just that difficult to be
in the NBA and be good. It's just hard.

Speaker 4 (44:11):
Yeah, all right, But does the chat agree or disagree
with us?

Speaker 3 (44:14):
Jackson? The Chat mostly agrees.

Speaker 7 (44:17):
Just there is one guy, Keith Anderson, who I think
it makes a fair point that he's just saying size
is not everything in football. Just because they're big doesn't
necessarily mean they're gonna you know, there's a requisite athletic
athleticism as well, like the defensive ends. Like you're saying,
Julius Peppers is one of the most athletic, purely athletic people.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
To ever exist. You said, Keith Anderson, Keith Anderson, That's
what I said.

Speaker 4 (44:38):
Is that my cousin, Keith Anderson? Keith Anderson in the chat?

Speaker 3 (44:42):
Do I know you answer us? Keith, answer us right
fucking now, Keith.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
If it's a Keith Anderson, I know we bring him up,
he would be him and act out would be my
first two choices for for Old. Remember we were talking
about doing like old head of the whatever.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
Is that your cousin, cousin for real? Just you, homie.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
He's actually we found out he's the He's actually blood
related to shar But so anytime he sees me, he goes,
what's up, cousin?

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Okay, that's cool, he said.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
Different because it's always been a conversation on Twitter, like
white people don't really have cousins.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
You know what I don't I have I have two.
I have two first cousins. Dog, we do not have cousins.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, bro, Chris Krack got a song called you never
heard a white person saying about my cousin?

Speaker 4 (45:29):
Like, Okay, what is the fact?

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Can we talk about this a little bit?

Speaker 2 (45:33):
I've wanted these like because you know, for me, I
think about like saw me not having family here, and
we're like, yo, we need to figure it out. So
like the cousins see each other, because that's so important,
you know, growing up, cousins got god, you know, gotta
be gotta be fuck with each other.

Speaker 5 (45:51):
You know what I'm saying. So what is it like,
why don't y'all with y'all cousins?

Speaker 4 (45:55):
Well, at least from what I have perceived of the
caucass around me, I think white people are much more likely. Yeah,
I think white people are more likely to like it's

(46:17):
sort of like a stereotype, but it's also true, like
white people are more likely to fall out with their family.
I feel like of the people I know, you know
what I mean, Like because we have like, for example,
my grandpa grew up in a like a one bedroom
tenement house full of Italians in New Jersey with like
six brothers and sisters, but some of them were fucking
with stuff in New Jersey he didn't want to fuck with.

(46:37):
He moved out to southern California. He only talked to
one of his brothers and sisters really after that, and
so I never I still have cousins in New Jersey.
I've never met them. I never had We never had
any interaction. Are you interesting to California?

Speaker 5 (46:51):
Are you interested in meeting you?

Speaker 4 (46:52):
Are you interested in meeting a bunch of people you
don't know?

Speaker 5 (46:55):
I mean my cousins and nigga, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:59):
I feel like, you know, what's this age?

Speaker 5 (47:03):
It's kind of hard.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Yeah, yeah, way like in the trenches when we were
nine years old at granny souse.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Right, gott gotta be yeah, yeah, I'm interested in an
when I was a kid, yeah right right. But now
I'm forty, I got you kids. I don't want to
meet anyone bro, like we talked about like, I don't
want I don't want to meet Lebron Bro. I don't know.
I don't want to I don't need to meet anybody.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
I just want to go all I get it.

Speaker 4 (47:28):
I just wan.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
No, no, no, Dog, I'm trying to tell you you
get there. You young nigga.

Speaker 4 (47:34):
You don't know that.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
You look just a pit squeak, you Jackson.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Your brain is finite. It fills up, dog, you know
what I mean? Like, how hard are you?

Speaker 1 (47:44):
Know?

Speaker 5 (47:44):
Are you not even twenty seven yet? Are you?

Speaker 3 (47:46):
I'm twenty eight? Okay, damn, So you're basically retired.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Okay, I'm just I'm like, dog, I feel like you.
You'll get to an age.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
We're like, Bro, I ain't got my mom is telling
me this for my like my whole life, and I
fully got it. When I like thirty five, when she
was like, fuck the dumb shit. She would always say that,
fuck the dump shit, nigga, I ain't got time, but
no dumb shit, fuck that shit.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
Yeah, your priorities a particular way, and you'll get it.
G Like, think.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
If it ain't at home, I really don't need it,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (48:17):
It's an option for sure.

Speaker 4 (48:18):
You feel me like nah, but so one of the
things that's great about Sharp being a mix of like
black and Asian, and she's got I mean, her dad
grew up. He has literally six brothers and sisters and
they all and he only had two kids, you know
what I mean. Like when he married Shar's mom, he
told her, He's like, I think I don't want that

(48:39):
many kids, maybe only like four.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
That's what he like, what he told her.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
So she has between the two sides of her family.
She literally like, when we were first getting to know
each other, she was like, who's it. You know, we
were talking about family and I was like, yes, me
and my mom and my brother, and you know, it's like,
my dad had a brother. We don't like, we hang
out with him some at holidays, but when my grandparents passed, way, like,
I've seen him twice since then, and he had a daughter,

(49:03):
so I saw her growing up, but then not really
since And then my mom had a She had more siblings,
but they only between all of them had one kid.
One of her brothers had a fallen out with her
dad and has never spoken to anyone else in their family,
oh thirty years or something. So it's just I don't know,
that's just weird. That's how it is that. Where's Shar?

(49:26):
I asked her. I was like, so, how many first
cousins do you have? And she was like, I have
no idea.

Speaker 5 (49:32):
Also, I don't even I never I know what a
first second cousin is, but I don't trip off.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
They just cousins, You feel what I'm saying, Like, yeah,
unless unless they're from the generation before, like my cousin
to one, Yeah, that's my auntie, the one you feel
me like she my mama's age.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
I ain't gonna call her cousin. I feel disrespectful, you
feel me. That's like that that person saying they call
them up first names. You know what I mean? Like
I would have got my ass.

Speaker 4 (50:01):
Oh talk about that time we talk about go.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Ahead, go ahead?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Oh well someone on Twitter, I will leave it was
a woman, but I will leave the uh, the race
out of it.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
But I figured, you know, we can play a cool
little game of who'd done it? Get to the end
of it.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah, but she said something like like the most unrealistic
things I ever saw in movie was kids calling their
friends parents mister or missus, when every week when we
were growing up we just called them by their first names.

Speaker 4 (50:25):
I was like, WHOA.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (50:29):
Bro?

Speaker 3 (50:29):
Like I said, I cannot.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Imagine twelve year old be thirteen year old me walking
into my homeboy's house and walking past his mom and going, Hey, Sheila, are.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
You kidding me? In what fucking world? Ain't no way
in hell do two Americas for real?

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Bro bro miss everything? And the thing is too I
still do that.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
To this day. I'm not calling parents by their first name.
It's a new parent.

Speaker 7 (50:53):
If it's a new like in a friend that I've
met as a as an adult and they introduced me
to their parents, that they would probably say he would
They would be like, oh, I'm Jim or whatever, and
then I would call them Jim. But anyone that I
knew as a kid as their parents still to this
day mister or missus yen, what's up?

Speaker 3 (51:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (51:09):
I still think I'm it's weird thinking about that. Being
I'm forty one, I still say miss if I meet you,
you know, even I met you rest recently, Like it's
like it's ingrained in me at this point, you know
what I mean. If you're a generation above me, it's
miss or mister, you know what I mean? Like me
calling like like my mom's Curtis, Like mister, just what up?

Speaker 5 (51:32):
Curtis? I just can't imagine that, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (51:35):
Like, like shit, I call my in laws. I call
them mom posps because before I married Summer, they were
mister and missus. But I feel like we're, you know,
now that we're fucking, you know, combining, and we're a family,
and we're calling mister or missus and we're not cool
enough for me to call them their first names either.
I will never become back, right, So yeah I do.

(51:55):
I don't think I would ever be comfortable with doing
the whole first name for the friends homieither you for
the homies parents or whatever?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
What about?

Speaker 4 (52:02):
What?

Speaker 7 (52:02):
So? I have a question for someone who's like not
your actual aunt and uncle, but like your auntie or
your uncle, right, would you say their first name after
the word auntie for their last name?

Speaker 4 (52:13):
Okay, okay, yeah, everyone's uncle or auntie and then the
first Okay, I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Page.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I don't know my mom bro.

Speaker 5 (52:27):
My mom spent my bro for sometimes sometimes since I
was like eleven, my mom don't trip. But I apologize
still sometimes I get my mom. You know, mom cool?

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Right?

Speaker 5 (52:39):
So I'm just rapping. We be talking like homies and
I'll be like my niggas, I'd be like my bad.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
I can never do a purpose, you know, it's not
get riled up, you know what I mean, like we
really rapping and you feel me.

Speaker 5 (52:54):
But yeah, dog, yeah, that's not something I try to
do a lot of.

Speaker 4 (52:59):
So I feel like it was interesting growing up in
the Long Beach in like a multicultural area because every
every kid of every different race code switched based on
like whose house you were at, because like a Samoan
household is even more formal than like a black household
when it comes to ancestors, very like you know, you
don't they'll hit someone else's kids for talking about you

(53:22):
know what I mean. It's it's it's very it's very like,
it's very everything's very respectful. But people will come over
to my house. All my friends called my mom mom,
like my whole you know, and we have people who
live with us and all couslers, so they just all
call her mom. And when I went to people's house,
my black friend's house, ms Brown miss, and like, I
don't feel like any of us ever talked about it either.

(53:44):
We you just like.

Speaker 10 (53:52):
What's funny is like rather you know what I'm saying,
she called my mom miss Laura, you know what I mean,
Like she called her miss, you know, But I think
she lived in New Orleans and all that ship, so
that could be regional as.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
Well, like you know, like yeah, yeah, but yeah, man,
so that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (54:14):
I'd rather call my friends.

Speaker 7 (54:15):
I have a couple of friends parents that I call mom,
and I'd rather call them because they introduced. They're like, oh,
you can call me Erica or whatever, and I'm like,
I'll just go with Momah yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
If you real close, if you real close, my mom call.
I got like probably four friends to call my mom mom,
you know what I mean. So it's like close, we
like agents call my mom. You knowee what I'm saying,
which is beautiful past eleven. So like when he called
my mom mom, that was like, bro, you know what
I mean?

Speaker 5 (54:49):
Like that was you know what I mean? And they
real close too, they be talking on their own. You
feel me, Like I gotta call your mama up, you
know what I mean? Like, I call mom up? You
feel me? Yeah, that's beautiful, beautiful.

Speaker 4 (55:02):
There was a Twitter prompt today that was described the
dumbest way that you've injured yourself. My take on that
was that every man has injured themselves punching or kicking
something they were not supposed to punch a kick. I
broke my hand punching a wall. Gentlemen, you got this one.

Speaker 1 (55:25):
I honestly thought that was too American ship right there myself,
Like that was a white boys shit, man.

Speaker 4 (55:31):
I have no sense really never you've never punched a wall.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
I don't think I punched a wall either.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (55:42):
Got surprising to me.

Speaker 5 (55:43):
We carried for particular households though. Mite.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Yeah, for sure, everyone was punching. Everything in my house
was broken. Like, I remember talking to my brother, who
I was like thirteen, he was eight, and my parents
had gotten in a fight with each other and they
had thrown bulls at each other that had food in them.

(56:08):
They threw them at each other, and I like looked
at Matt and I was like, isn't it crazy that
this does not trip us out at all? Just like, ah,
there they go. One of them is gonna go into
the garage and throw bottles against the wall until they
get it out of their system.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
I'm shot outside and I hear she going against the
wall on the inside, and like I.

Speaker 5 (56:29):
Said, stop, think, listen, make sure everything coke. Okay, keep shooting.
It's just an arguments.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
They're just figuring some shit out.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 4 (56:45):
That's why I always tell people like, my parents split,
my dad got my dad left, got kicked out, whatever.
And then at some point he was gonna be homeless,
and so my mom took him back into the house
and he was sleeping in the living room. And I
remember talking to my brother going, all our other friends
with divorced parents are like praying for this, and we're
both like, no, to have him sleep on the street, bro,

(57:06):
Like I want to go to bed.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
I remember I came to I was like, we like,
you know, stay together for the kids. Well, the kids
don't want it.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
Kids don't want it. I mean, nigga, the fuck we're
cooling down? She sweeting the motherfucker whatever.

Speaker 5 (57:29):
Get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Oh don't want this.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Ship happy home, single parent mommy, nigga, single mommy.

Speaker 5 (57:37):
Please, nigga, I'm over. She was crazy.

Speaker 4 (57:44):
Get divorced as fuck for the kids.

Speaker 5 (57:48):
I had PTSD. I remember one day in high school,
I was like tenth grade. Something fell in the house.
I was sleep, bro, and like, you know, high school asleep,
like in the then of a gross perch. Sleep. You
feel me like I'm in a different planet.

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Some fail. I jump up, go to the door.

Speaker 5 (58:05):
What the fuck? You know what I mean? Joy walks
by me, John, she dropped something.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
I dropped someone saw, So you're crazy keep going and
I'm like, oh, am fucking crazy.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Crazy nigga.

Speaker 1 (58:30):
That I am just I just I just picturing y'all
being huddled up and they're breaking the news. Y'all let's
go hurt your fans. You're like, oh, okay, you're leaving
to night, and you're like, nigga, right.

Speaker 11 (58:42):
Right right, you need some help backing motherfucker. My parents
told me me want me to back, you will lunch up.
I'm making mean Phoebe and Jay my nigga. I'll even
make you if you'll guarantee y'all asking the fuck out
of here.

Speaker 5 (58:57):
God damn.

Speaker 1 (59:01):
Oo.

Speaker 4 (59:02):
Ship nigga, fu mean.

Speaker 5 (59:04):
Bro in college.

Speaker 2 (59:07):
In college, like my mama was trying to give you
to stay home, Bro, I had remember that talk Sassa
she ab I told you all about.

Speaker 5 (59:13):
Yeah, that ship was crazy my mom.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I forget that story, yeah, bro, and this.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Shit was kind of wild the whole time. It was
four years My.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Mom was wanting me to come home during the summer
because I had no classes. Ship nigga, I stayed with
her crazy ass. I rather get knives pull out.

Speaker 9 (59:30):
On me, deal with this nigga. Fuck I playing the
saxage creed with my girlfriend.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
That older n.

Speaker 5 (59:48):
Your knife with this nigga.

Speaker 4 (59:51):
You fucking Kennedy ship.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
You really lived a life, John.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Yo, Man, I'm glad we hear it. Were happy as hell.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
Me I Mike gonna tell him like, hey, you believe
we created happy households, like it's so beautiful.

Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
It's so beautiful, man.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
John and I both talked about realizing it was a
problem in adulthood that we were eating our food too
quickly because we were used to it being like a
competition for resources.

Speaker 5 (01:00:23):
If we didn't my box of.

Speaker 4 (01:00:25):
Cereal, it would not be we would My brother and
I would literally like like fucking dogs with a bone,
and the ship would be gone, I swear to God.
In fifteen minutes, I would eat four bowls of wheaties
like I'm gonna fucking get these down before you can
get them down, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:00:42):
I'm gonna tell this story that my sister hates me telling,
but I'm goin to say it. It's funny.

Speaker 2 (01:00:49):
So anyway, Joy was on a particular diet like she
she would get like I need these groceries.

Speaker 5 (01:00:54):
She's always been very particular about that.

Speaker 2 (01:00:55):
And she was training and she was going to play
d D one and she wanted to be opportunicular health, right,
so she would.

Speaker 5 (01:01:01):
Have no food that that was for her in her closet.

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:01:06):
So one day, one day, my little brother Aaron went
to her like a little stash and she was eating
her ship.

Speaker 5 (01:01:14):
And Courtney was in there. Ok, this is force. It
was in health. It was in there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:18):
Ooh, you know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (01:01:20):
I'm the tail right. Aaron looked at her and said,
aren't too hungry, air.

Speaker 4 (01:01:35):
It's hilarious, numbers man.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
We was figuring it out, man, you know what I'm saying.
But it was cool, it was still it was still fun.
We had to have the fun.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
So dumbest injury for me, punched the wall broke this
one went in and boy, if you've ever been a
man who's gone through the medical care system with that
particular fracture, you are gonna be so correctly condescended to
the nurse, the X ray tech and the doctor all
like did you punch a wall or a pole? You
know what I mean? Like, stupid motherfucker. Uh. And then

(01:02:07):
the other really dumb. One I have is I have
scars on my knuckles right here from punching John Allen
in fifth grade on his braces.

Speaker 5 (01:02:18):
Do you regret it?

Speaker 3 (01:02:20):
No? Fuck he was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:22):
He was messing with my little fifth grade girlfriend and
I punched him right in his mouth and I pushed
his braces through his lips but by knuckles got had
to like pull him.

Speaker 3 (01:02:34):
Off his braces.

Speaker 4 (01:02:34):
It was a nasty seat, bro, but fucking forever. No,
I don't. I don't regret it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:39):
In the people usually gonna be a dickhead, Bro, you
know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Two first names, Chris, Paul, bro prime example, Mike. What
were you about to say?

Speaker 4 (01:02:50):
It was Mormon?

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
That's the hop? Do we need an intervention with you?

Speaker 7 (01:03:01):
I know I land where Mike is normally, But every
Mormon I've ever met is like the nicest person in
the hole.

Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
They are, but not in fifth grade. And I and
I have a Mormon homies, but Mormon kids in fifth
grade because their family dynamic is so unique. Bro, you
know what I mean? Then it's like you're in the
elementary school. It's like you're used to being around thirty kids,
but none of us are related to you. Bro, like
we don't want to deal with any of this weird
shit anyway. Uh, Tyler, what's the dumbest way you've injured yourself?

Speaker 1 (01:03:26):
Oh, dumbest way I injured myself I think was when
I got a concussion in college wrestling with my homeboy
and I got god damn a concussion, bro and I
got goddamn you know, we was wrestling.

Speaker 3 (01:03:39):
He scooped me and like my head hit the back
of a wall and shit.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
And it was us so ver fuck because like bright
lights would just set that shit off and shit. So
I was going to class with a fitted and like
some sunglasses don't look like the motherfucking Uni bomber because
me and the homies got drunk and wrestled like some dickheads, right,
So that was probably the dumbest fucking injury I had.

Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
It.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
That was that was like junior, Like I was like
twenty one, which is way too old to be doing
that dumb ship.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
But yeah, I remember I told.

Speaker 5 (01:04:09):
It all the time. We'd be like, who want to
wrap up? You know what I'm saying. The niggas just
wrestle in the gym and ship for no reason.

Speaker 4 (01:04:16):
I told you about my friend Dan, who is like
he he was a defensive tackle. He was big, he
could consume an ungodly amount of drugs and substances or whatever.
But Dan started. It was like a thing our newspaper
would do when people got too drunk, where everyone would
just punch each other in the chest as hard as
they could, and Dan broke someone stern them no, no, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
He just like.

Speaker 4 (01:04:42):
You can't hear it, Yes, you can't hear it. You
can't hear it.

Speaker 6 (01:04:46):
Go.

Speaker 5 (01:04:48):
Don't you have to wear like a like a type
of race when that happened, it was so bad.

Speaker 3 (01:04:54):
You gotta wear an iron lug to get your up.
Of course, you know what, They got their rubble plate? Bro,
Where is Dad?

Speaker 4 (01:05:08):
Now?

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Let make sure I stay away from Dan.

Speaker 4 (01:05:10):
Lives in uh Dan is Buddhist and lives with his
wife in where they're running a uh of like a
bed and breakfast, and he's he got them paul of him.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Hey, the universe probably had. They didn't want to let
him loose on his motherfucker planet. Dog.

Speaker 5 (01:05:30):
We're gonna make this man no boocus. He's cracking stern
ups for plate nigga?

Speaker 9 (01:05:35):
Right?

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
Oops?

Speaker 5 (01:05:38):
Is what happened?

Speaker 4 (01:05:40):
Listen, dude, I told you about was it was. It
went through the the Crispy Kream drive through on foot
and was like banging on the window like give like
he was out of his mind, but he was like
give me donuts. And we're like, Dan, you're across the
street from a police station and you're three hundred pounds
of muscle. You can't be out.

Speaker 5 (01:05:59):
Here like it's a hot doughnut light on.

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
It was, Oh, I get it. Don'tut like exact change.
I don't change your life.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
All all right.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
I chalked it up back reverse one time on some
on some college Wow boy ship you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:06:21):
Bro?

Speaker 1 (01:06:23):
In college, me and the homies will go and hot
box Whip and the Christmal Kreeen Park line until that
motherfucker went off and then and then we go in
and get a box to ourselves.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Nigga talking about box bro You nigga, I'm ship.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
You can crush that that Christy Kreme on Batleground, Man,
My egg is know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
I was getting I was getting high in christ You
notice to like thirty four, nigga, thirty five. I was
in Atlanta doing that ship. You feel me get high
as fuck? Let me go to the fucking dozens bases
like hell yeah, or a good Tuesday or Wednesday.

Speaker 5 (01:06:51):
Motherfucker that ship was I like, tomorrow, do it?

Speaker 4 (01:06:58):
What Jackson? What's the dumbest way? Even this seemed like
a sensible young lad. I want to hear a really
stupid story.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Okay, this is a stupid story. It's it's like it's
it's a stupid story.

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
It's not an injury in the way that you're describing,
but it's a it's a really stupid story. So years back,
I was in Hawaii with my brother and my my
parents were Hawaii, my family, I have a lot of
family in Hawaii. But my brother and I were at
the at the beach and we didn't have my grandpa
had dropped this off, which beach Waikiki, And so my

(01:07:31):
brother is like a very like uh like daredevil kid,
and so he went like up on this like wall,
this this big concrete like wall right and like key beach.
If you've been there, you know exactly what it is.
And he's like, I'm gonna go jump off the thing.
I was like, all right, just like don't be an idiot,
but like I'm not gonna follow you over there. And
then like I'm just like chilling by myself on the
beach and like I happened on my phone is in

(01:07:52):
the bag. I happened to check my phone at the
right time. I I just missed a call from my
mom and I was like, that's weird, and so I
called it back and she was like.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
In a pan, She's like, go find your brother right now.
Something bad happened.

Speaker 7 (01:08:03):
I was like, what the fuck? And I just like
took off over towards the wall. And as I get
over that, I'm like, what is going on?

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
What is going on?

Speaker 7 (01:08:08):
He is lying down on top of the wall with
like people around him, and I'm like, what happened. They're like,
he jumped off and like hit his head. So we
like called the lifeguard or whatever, and they're like we're
keeping him like immobile for now. Ambulance is on the way,
and I was like, what the fuck and he's like
he was like head is bleeding and he is totally
fine to let me start start there. He is completely fine.

(01:08:30):
But we all this happens. It's crazy. We get in
the ambulance and they're like keeping I still have pictures
of him like with the fucking neck brace on right,
They're trying to keep his spine safe. And it was
just such a crazy, crazy scene that I think that
once we were finally in the ambulance on the way
to the hospital, I'm having to like call my grandpa,
call my mom, like go to this hospital. It's madness, right.
I think all of this had my heart like racing

(01:08:51):
so much that finally, once we're on the way to
the hospital, I'm sitting in the back of the ambulance.
I faint in the back of the ambulance and like
fall over and like kind.

Speaker 3 (01:08:59):
Of like hit my head a little bit on the wall.
Where to God?

Speaker 7 (01:09:03):
And so when we get to the we get to
the hospital and the driver of the ambulance comes down
and goes, yo, can you guys get a wheelchair? And
they're like and they're like yeah, okay, and they come
and they get a wheelchair, and then they start to
pick up my brother and bring him out, and the
nurse or whatever starts to put my brother in the wheelchair,
and the ambulance driver is like, what the fuck are

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you doing. He needs to be immobilized. Do not sit
him up in a wheelchair. And she's like, isn't this
what you wanted me to bring a wheelchair for and
I was like, no for the other guy he passed
out in the ambulance, and then they wheelchair me in.
I'm like I'm like, I'm good, guys, I'm fine. They're like, no,
we like protocol, we like have to you hit your head,
we have to like take you whatever. So I'm in
the bed. I'm like, this is insane, Like why am

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I even in this? And then my parents eventually get
to the hospital and they come in and they're like,
I didn't I didn't have my phone on me because
they're like it's in a bag or whatever. I didn't
tell them that I had fainted. So they come into
the hospital and they're like.

Speaker 4 (01:09:56):
What the fuck are you doing in the bed? Where's
your brother? I was like, I'm fine, he's over there,
like it's okay, But it was just how were you
when this happened.

Speaker 3 (01:10:05):
I think it was in college. I was probably like
twenty one. Wow, did your brother fully recovered? He was
completely fine.

Speaker 7 (01:10:11):
He just had a had a head laceration, had some stitches.
His no brain injury, notes neck injury. Every think it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
I asked that before saying this. I feel like you
stole your brother's moment right there. That was supposed to
be your brother's moment. Dug you were you were supposed
to steal the show like that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:28):
Bro, I got the vapors. Bro, when you got the vapors,
I think you're right. Have y'all ever fainted. I don't
think I've ever fainted.

Speaker 5 (01:10:38):
I don't know what, bro.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
Me and me and my dumb ass homies used to
play the fucking faint game where you been over to
take tende breast and come up and then someone put
you in.

Speaker 5 (01:10:47):
So y'all thought that was white people. Shit.

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
I don't know niggas that did that ship. Yeah, y'all
kind of dabbling the white people ship going and out,
you know what I mean? Yeah, I think we all
kind of I punched the wall.

Speaker 4 (01:10:58):
I mean like, you know, yeah, I punched, but I've
never done the I've never done that.

Speaker 5 (01:11:02):
Yeah, yeah, I've never done that. I pull I punched
the wall.

Speaker 2 (01:11:06):
We It was like, uh, you know, the green and
gold game, like when you're playing I played basketball high
in the middle school, and like the green and gool
game when you split the teams and half you feel
me And yeah, he was scrimmage yeah, scrimmage when we was.

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Playing in front of the whole school and all that ship.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
You feel me so really excited about that, saying some
ship that you know prevented me from being able to play.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
And uh, before you said, what did you say? I'll
tell y'all later, bro, But it was it was, it was.
It was normal.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
It was normal for eighth grader at that age. But
you know, you around get canceled now, you know what
I mean? But uh, anyway, but.

Speaker 4 (01:11:47):
Anyway, so Tom Brady made every Tom Brady relegalized everything.

Speaker 5 (01:11:51):
Yeah he's white, I'm not brother, you know what I mean. Different,
But uh but uh but I'll get that pass.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
But yeah, so yeah, man hit the wall. And what
was crazy is I tried to like tough it out,
you know and be cool. Like when I hit the wall,
like the ship went black for a second. I was like,
oh my fucking what did I do?

Speaker 5 (01:12:09):
You know what I mean? Try to turn it out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
For like a week and a half, I played an
actual basket and other scrimmage against like the high school
team that was playing us, like one game and then
like it just wouldn't get better. My hand was still
swallen up. I went to the doctor. He said, I
broke in my hand and it started healing and he
had to rebreak it. So he gave me like gauze
to put in my mouth in the hole to like

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bite down so I didn't bite my tongue, and then
a grip with my hand and he re broke my
ship with his hand. And as I get older, I'm thinking, like,
you didn't have to rebreak you with your hand. There
had to be something else. He just wanted to test
something out on me. Bro this you know, this was
this was some tuskegee experiments.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
I tried to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
I tried to do some ship like that with the
I dislocated my shoulder the first time, and I didn't
know what happened. It's just if you've ever dislocated something,
you know you could feel it in every piece of
your body that something's wrong. I just thought I broke
my shoulder or something. I broke it under like crazy circumstances.
I was trying to pretend it I dislocated, so I

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was just sitting on the edge of the bed like
holding it. And eventually, like my mom woke up the
next day, She's like, we got to go to the
you know, we got to take you in or whatever.
The way they relocated it, because it had been out
for like several hours, was they lay me face down
on a medical bed. He duct tapes my hand to

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like a fifty pound dumbbell and then raised the bed
up and it itself back in. But yeah, they did
shoot me very full of morphe before they did it. Hey,
which is probably the only time in my life I've
actually been like high.

Speaker 3 (01:13:50):
But I was that high field off. My whole body
was very itchy.

Speaker 4 (01:13:57):
I didn't like it. I don't like not being in
control of my brain. Yeah, but it was. It felt
good afterwards after the shoulder went back in.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
The second the.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Best high I've ever had is after surgery. I was like,
nig if they sell this ship on the street, I
would be cooked, Nigga. They got them in the hospital, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:14:15):
So I had three surgeries on this ankle when I
was recovering from the second one. The major one is
when I dislocated my shoulder. Yeah, they gave me Viking
in and I was like an oxy and I was like,
oh no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
They they gave me that ship you wanted to take it.
I'm talking about the ship that they put you to
sleep with. Yeah, that ship when you wake up when
you're still a little high. Afterwards, I was cracking jokes.
I was nigga the person.

Speaker 4 (01:14:37):
I was very inappropriate with the nurses.

Speaker 5 (01:14:41):
The person I was dead at the time. She was like, yo,
can we take a little bit of this whole He's
talking to people. He doesn't like anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
It's so funny. Bro, I had the exact same thing,
charming as fun Come.

Speaker 5 (01:14:58):
O, you nigga, don't like it?

Speaker 4 (01:14:59):
Nobody Jackson any good dumbest injuries in the chat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
We had, someone said they pulled a back muscle from sneezing.
God damn. I don't think that's dumb. I think that's
old bros.

Speaker 4 (01:15:13):
We've all got those hurt yourself sleeping. I've I've pulled
a muscle stretching like in bed. When you wake up,
you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
I wrestled with Adrian was and he had to go
to he had to like get his ship checked out
and take some mans and stuff, you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (01:15:32):
Always like you all, bro had to go take medicine
after we wrestled.

Speaker 4 (01:15:41):
That is a tough one because you y'all will be
seventy eight making the exact.

Speaker 3 (01:15:46):
Lady Ship.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
All right, Jackson, you said you have you have you said, Jackson,
you say you have something else.

Speaker 3 (01:16:00):
Very very pressing story before we log off. We've been
streaming for a while.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:16:04):
In the Luca Daunted his postgame press conference tonight, he is,
you know, doing his press conference. Everything seems to be normal,
and then someone forgot to didn't realize that when you
disconnect your AirPods or something, the video that you're.

Speaker 3 (01:16:20):
Playing doesn't necessarily watching porn.

Speaker 7 (01:16:23):
Someone was watching porn and it played loudly in during
his press conference, and Luca is like, says Tom Anthony,
he just goes and then all of the reporters you
can hear him start laughing, and Luca just goes like this,
and then someone in someone of the room goes, okay,
moving on.

Speaker 5 (01:16:41):
Who wasn't all right?

Speaker 3 (01:16:43):
I don't know, wasn't sixty nine? God, someone who was
in the room during.

Speaker 4 (01:16:49):
Tyler you gotta get to the bottom of it.

Speaker 7 (01:16:53):
I was.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
I was thinking that line, like the whole play ride
with one of the biggest.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
I just keep saying, yeah, I'll be I was in
the gym on his on the StairMaster, and just by.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
Watching the game they tagged. They jumped that nigga. That's great.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
I can't imagine how oranges or bored you'd have to
be to watch porn on your air pods.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
He hooked like a drug addict. Though he's hooked. That's
a that's a drug addict. That's he's he has an addiction.
He needs medicine. You need to go to the same
doctor Adrian did after got down wrestling.

Speaker 5 (01:17:44):
Nigga.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
That nigga some anti horning for pills. That's prescription.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Give him some gi give him the opposite of the
ed pills. You give him the pills a case D.

Speaker 5 (01:18:00):
That's wild, though, that is extremely wild. Bro. I wonder
what he was watching.

Speaker 4 (01:18:05):
I'll say, well, I need to know who it was.
I need to know what they were watching. We'll get well,
I'm sure we'll get the info. I'm sure the info
will come out. That's all the time we got for
Jenkins and Jones. We'll be back on Sunday night. Hopefully
the Celtics embarrass themselves again between now and then. Hope
basketball games. I do well. I hope everyone has a

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great rest of the week and weekend. We'll see y'all
Sunday night.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Bye bye bye and keep God in your life.

Speaker 4 (01:18:35):
Fuck Nigga FU Nigga

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
The Volume