April 18, 2024 • 42 mins
The guys discuss LeBron James and the Los Angeles Lakers beating Zion Williamson and the New Orleans Pelicans, Steph Curry, Klay Thompson and the Golden State Warriors losing to the Sacramento Kings, the exciting matchup between Jimmy Butler's Miami Heat and Joel Embiid's 76ers, how this shapes up the rest of the playoffs for the Denver Nuggets and New York Knicks, and more. #volume
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talented Jackson Staffron. What all right, let's jump into it today.
We had the Eastern Conference playing games. We had the
Sixers heat and like everyone expected, it was a batoon
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legacy game, batoomb bonanza, that.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
The redemption game, like you know, the running joke is
Blue Bucks playing went on LA leaguers and they had
that freestyle know floor seats at cryptough. I got my
tul in fourth quarter asking why the fuck Matuba and
he fucking put Philadelphia season on his back in the
fourth quarter, right like, Bro, it's been it's been a
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crazy last few days. Like you know, Drake shot back
at everybody. Rick Ross shot back at Drake. Nick Mtune
shot back at Blue Bucks. Clam bro like it's real
out here right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now, anybody can get it at any time. Yuh B.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
You know y'all y'all was in the group chat talking shit.
You feel me? But he just he like a player
that hadn't played forty games.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know what I'm saying, That's what looked like Arty
was like they said, he was like holding his knee pregame.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
He looked gassed for most of it. You feel me.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Max didn't play well, but shots the batoon man, you
know what I mean, showed up the Frenchman.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
What are he is? Six threes three and the third,
three and the fourth, Yeah, something like that. Anyway, Good
for him, Good for him.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Jackson? Is it you're a Celtics fan? Is this what
you were hoping for? Who are you trying to line up?
Of the four teams limping through the Eastern Conference play ins?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
I suppose I was. Why did I say the other part?
I kind of forget I was fine with either team.
I s guess I don't wish injury in anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You're not worried about any of them at this point, I.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Mean, especially now that Jimmy Butler has an empty L injury,
that Jimmy Weller has an EMTCL injury, which is that's
very unfortunate, not watching an injury on anyone. But if
they don't have Jimmy for even a couple of games,
even if they make it out of the play and
I don't think they got much of a chance.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I still think that they would have.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
The Celtics would have beat the Sixers if that was
to be the matchup, but at this point, I mean
again not watching injury. But it worked out about as
well as Celtics hoped.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I think, all right, should we talk Lakers Pelicans? Y'all
have anything else on the Sixers heat game?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
N was it?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Let's not part.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Let's talk about the advisability of Lebron James taking a
charge from Zion Williamson.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Listen through Zion is like, fuck, he put my boy
Bron's toes in the air. I ain't never seen no
shit like that. Like that was a legitimate That was
not a flop, bro. He legitimately knocked Bron's clock off
in that moment, dog like Bro just just insane and
what a fucking games line.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Man like forty points.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It felt like this was the game we wanted from
him his whole fucking career, and I just hate how
it ended for him.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Though, Man forty points block Bron twice, I believe you
feel me.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
If he doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Laker's going to play the Kings, probably gonna lose, probably
going home, Bro, we keep it at a bean dog.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know what I'm saying. Bron looked ghasted, ad didn't
look all that good. You feel me? I don't know,
y'all want to play the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's I think it's just gonna be an early exit.
We ain't gonna give him much of a shot if
we looked like we did last night. I mean, Dangelo's
not gonna save us, Guys, I'm sorry to say it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
If we don't even like Bro, Like my whole thing
has always been, Bro, get the Nuggets now, because you're
not going to escape them, like we're gonna think, okay
See or Minnesota or Phoenix is gonna knock them off.
Go get them now, Bro, Like that's that you're gonna
have to go through them sooner or later. Why not
do it sooner?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I mean, I hear you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I just feel like this team is not good enough
to beat that team.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I mean a lot of it's a little bit, you know,
play play extra extra series. Maybe you feel me get
that we have no chance of beating the Nuggets.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Bro, I mean I want to.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ship you. Well, let me ask you this let me
ask you this. Let me ask you this. No, No,
I I think I think. I think the Nuggets are
gonna win it all this year. I want to be
very clear on that. But I want to ask you,
who do you think in the West has a better
chance than the Lakers of knocking the Nuggets off?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I mean, I'm just I wouldn't say anybody. I think everybody's.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
No.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Oh, my internet is unstable, that's what's going on. Am
I back?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You're back?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Can you think anyone in the West has a better
chance to beat the Nuggets and the Lakers?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I know, I know, I know, I don't think that.
You know, I just I just maybe I'm just frustrated, dude,
you feel me. It's just looking at the team knowing
they don't have a chance. With Bron and ad On,
it is not where I want to be at this point.
At least last year, I felt after they beat the Warriors,
you know what I'm saying. They look deep, They looked
like a good, solid professional basketball team. They made the
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change they need to make when they did in the
middle of the season, and I felt like, yo, they
we have a chance.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I can't even lie to myself this year.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Bro, I mean, I think they've got a slim chance.
Like you said, D'Angelo ink on to save us, And
of course you don't want to put your off all
your postseason hopes on D'Angelo Russell. But the fact that
I was, I wasn't. Yeh, yeah, he had a terrible
series against Denver last year. Last year, I think ever yeah, yeah,
he ever was like six point per game, you know,
last season. But Bro, D'Angelo, ever since he got put
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on that fucking trading block, Bro, he has been that guy.
When we were like, yo, we need to get dangel
Russell out here for a number three, It's like, no,
I'm the number three, watch me, and he has balled out, Bro,
And I'm not like, Look, I'm not at all say
like I said, I do think Denver wins this, but
I'm not with you that Los Angeles has no chance.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I think there's a slim chant.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Anytime you got Bron and ad Bron playing the best
fucking basketball of just about anybody in the league's it's
all star break. Like, Bro, they got a shot man,
a very slim shot, I want to be clear on that,
but they got a shot.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We last night it looked like the energy had to
put forth and those must win games for the last
fucking month. You feel me caught up to him. You
look like a dude, that an old guy that had
to put more effort than he wanted to at the
end of the season and doesn't have as much energy
right now.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
That's what it looked like to me. So yes, it's
been playing good, but it looked like it's Warren on them.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think as bron fans and as Lakers fans, what
is difficult is you just keep expecting the next part
of the story and it doesn't come. They got swept
last year, they lose the next four, you know, you
get the great quotes from Ad and Broun, like yeah,
but next time, and then they lose another four games,
you know, and like you get Darvin Ham last night
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saying like we want all the smoke, We're not duck
in phages, it's like you're oh, for your last eight
or whatever it is. I believe four and eleven in
the last fifteen against this team. So at some point
is it a fade or are they just kicking your
ass every day?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Hey, the thing about streaks is they either keep going
on the end at the end of the day, they
got to end.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
As Gloorilla was so eloquently put it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So let's see bro, like I said, Like I said,
I think they've got a shot. A very slim shot,
but I think they got a shot.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Man, here's the craziest stat that I've heard. Nick right
tweeted this. So we're gonna talk a little bit more
about Nick right later when we talk about the Warriors.
But Nick tweeted, Lebron has now won nine consecutive do
or die games over the last fifteen years, which is
game sevens and playans, And he said, if you include
the season in season tournament is twelve and zero. His
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last loss in one of those games was two thousand
and eight at Boston when he had forty five, five
and six in a five point loss at age twenty three.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Did he really lose?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So that's what it's like. But then there's this team
that just just completely owned I mean in the way
that Lebron owned the Eastern Conference for you know, full generation.
That's how the the Nuggets are doing, the Lakers and
everyone else in the West right now. That that's what
it feels like. So it does feel a little hard
to wrap my head around. But I I'll put it
somewhere between no chance and a very slim chance. I'll
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call it like a very very slim chase.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm high on the slim chance side of it. I'm
not in the no to slim you know area that
a high on the slim big right.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Did you guys see the sort of pitch he gave
on his show? It was it was a decent pitch
for someone who is not not in agreement of the
Lakers winning. He was like, what, what are the big
did anyone having like a crazy shooting performance in the
last series? And the answer is yes, the Nuggets shot
the best in that series relative to the rest of
the playoffs by far a Lakers did any end Jewel
(11:00):
players have either really good games or really bad A
really good series, a really bad series, And it was
like the low had the worst series he's ever had.
Jamal Murray shot like fifty from three almost.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So I just thirty two a game.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So Nick writes pitches that if the rosters are mostly
the same and the Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, if some
of those things balance out, maybe it's it's closer than
we think.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
It's a good pitch.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't really agree, but but it's a good it's
a good pitch.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You know how they say women lie numbers, don't you
know what I'm saying, But you can manipulate the numbers
to make them lie.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
That's what he did, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know, that's a great way to lie to yourself,
you know, if you want, if you want to believe
the lot and that's I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was eloquently put. You know, Nick
does his homework. He's a very smart guy.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But for sure, I mean, but if we're kind, and
I know that often playoff series I won by the
role players. You know, they're they're the deciding factors. But
I don't know if I'm just on board with the
loss of Bruce Brown and the ascension of d Angela
Russell's going to decide this series. You know, we've got
Yoki Chen Murray and bron and Ad you know, two
of the top five fucking deals in the league. So
I think it's gonna come down to how well those
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guys play. Of course, and that's not that's not something
super insightful here, but it's it's just fucking basic basketball.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I think Bron and Eddie can play great and they
could still get swept.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think that's the
Nuggets are just that much better, you feel me? And
I think the thing that.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
They start like Bron.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, Bron's been really good in the fourth quarter
this season and just career wise period.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
But he really good. He looked bad last game.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
He leads the league in fourth quarter score on this Yeah, yeah,
it looked.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Bad last game. And they started slow.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You can't you You're not gonna have a chance of
winning starting slow, like one of those teams are like,
go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
He's been He's been so.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Good the last month. I know, I know he didn't
have a great game to play it, but I'm but
he looks tired.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He looked tired. It's the difference between looking bad and
looking gassed. To me, that's how That's what it seemed. So,
I mean, hey, he's fucking Lebron. James's an alien. We've
seen him turn his ankle seventeen ways, tied the motherfuck
up and then drop forty. So he's made a liar
in me so many times. I hope he does it.
I just I just don't. I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You're afraid to get hurt?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, bro, Yeah, man, I'm scar to hope. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, mama broke in one time
too many? Brother, You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
We all need therapy after that one foot in Follo
away bullshit soccer throw in that fucking Yokich put up
for a made three pointer over Anthony Davis last year.
That's what it is.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
It's nice the Warriors, Bro, just the years with the Warriors.
Them years beat my ass. Okay, they hurt me, bro.
Well let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The Golden State Warriors. Uh. The fellas were looking mad
prescient on the last episode when we talked about it
might be it might be closing time on the Warriors
dynasty because man, did they ever shut that ship down
in Sacramento? Did you guys enjoy the end of that
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era of basketball or were you sad about it? And
I feel like you may have different answers. Tyler want
to go first.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I'm for a long time. No, so his experience is
different than mine. I've been gave up on Twitter. You
feel me?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, I'm never going to feel sorry for the Warriors, right,
You got four championships in eight years.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You won three and four.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
A lot of people are gonna say you are the
best basketball team of all time, the KD era Warriors,
right like, they for sure get my vote, and it's like, yes, okay,
the dynasty has probably ended it all dynasties in it
happens to everybody, Like, I don't have any any remorse
or any pity for them. I do think that the
moment where Clay was like soaking it all in was
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what was a bit you know, yeah, yeah, that pulled
on my harshanks a little bit. But then I was
also like, goddamn, bro, you could at least hit one shot, motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You went like zero for ten, like if mother, Like
like what are you looking back at? Like you you
ain't do shit out there?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
But back there, nigga, don't turn around, bro, look forward.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Dog.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But yeah, I'm I'm I'm never going to feel sorry
for them, because they sure as fuck ain't feel sorry
for anybody when they were beating the fuck out the
league with the best fucking team we ever saw, with
fucking Steph and KD on the same fucking squad. So no,
I'm not gonna feel sorry for this. Come on, man,
I don't I felt bad.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think basketball was funner when they were kicking people's ass.
You feel me, and it hasn't felt the same as
much as they scarred me. I watched so much basketwatching them,
and it was so beautiful to see. It's kind of wild.
Them getting older makes me feel old too, you know
what I'm saying. Maybe I'm making this shit personal. Dog
Like damn Steph thirty seven? How old does that make me?
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It's like when you're short of get you know, the
young motherfuckers is old now. God damn man, that makes
me old as hell, you know what I mean? So yeah, gee,
but like yeah, watching that dog, you know what I mean.
I wasn't happy like I thought I would when they
were when they were like the world beaters. You know,
I didn't have that when I knew it in one day,
and I thought I'd be excited, like like Tyler.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Like.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I don't have to nerds my misses anymore. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
If you if you're in the trenches long enough, you
don't mind the other side, you know, like you're sure
for mustard gas. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You just and got you know, got a different view,
you know what I mean. Like if I was still
in there fight with them weird ass Warrior nerds nigga,
I'd be like, fuck them niggas, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But nah, man, it's different. You kind of felt different
seeing them go out like that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Uh as final proof that the world does not give
a fuck about you, no matter how important in your
in your world. You may be Clay trying to have
that moment of reflection of just like damn, one of
the craziest careers in NBA history, really like one of
the craziest dynasties. He's trying to take that moment in
and the Sacramento King's Arena is like, Dan is how
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we do.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Friday Night torn Brave, crazy, crave, Betty fallen, you know,
like it always is, bro one team crying. I know,
(17:20):
my fucker party, bro how it always is. That's why
we love it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But what's interesting about this too, is like the Warriors
are not a bad team.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
This was not a this is not a bad season.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They were like they were like ten games over five
hundred nine or ten games over five hundred you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
If they're in the East.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They're in the victim of the victim playing the Bucks,
you know what I'm saying, who don't have Giannis have
a real chance.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
But they're not. They're you know, in the in the West.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Where not only are there good basketball teams, there's good
young basketball teams.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
They're only gonna get better, you know what I'm saying.
So they're they're just one of the.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
It's why it's so hard to evaluate them as like
other basketball products this year because, like you said, they're
ten games over five hundred and while granted it's entirely
Draymond Green's fault that he missed all of those games
when he came back. When he came back, they were
top ten in offensive efficiency, defensive efficiency, like wins, like
they were like one of the best teams in the
(18:14):
league when he plays on the court, even even with
the fact that they went out sad. So it's I
I can understand why like Warriors fans are like, I mean,
some most just want want Kurt fired because those people are,
you know, crazy, But I can understand why.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I do know, can I I'm sorry, I don't get
the the Steve k the curse.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
They crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Do you see what the Bucks are going through now
with two and like the players the Lakers, there's there's
so many last year.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
It's a bump. There's not many coaches.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Hold one, brother, you know, if you period period, period period.
But I think the best they could do is this,
They're stuck in NBA purgatory in the West.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The best I can do is like squeeze into the
playoffs at best exit early as a decent NBA team
because they're playing in the West.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's just sad.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
This is how they go out as just basic bitches
when they was like the baddest bitch on the planet, nigga.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know what I'm saying, for so long, gee, step
is what thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The late thirties comes for all of us.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
John bro I mean looks good, he said, great moments.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But also I think that shit that like with Draymond
kind of like lost his shit. Steph is thirty seven.
That motherfucker wasn't just hurt. He was like, I'm so
fucking tired of this shit. Like you know what I mean,
I'm too old for this shit. You feel me, You're like,
I get that energy, dog, I get that energy. Gee,
you feel me?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So why are we having this shit?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
We's fucking after You're thirty five. You're thirty five, Draymond.
You know better, bro, you know better. No, that man
was tired, don.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, you were so tired.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
It's so tired. Are you able to cry?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He got kids all this ship, bro, He away from
his shorties during the season, and he gotta deal with
this type ship. I get it at thirty seven. Come on, man,
it's already hard. Your body hurting already, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Come on, man, Stephanie having big cool substitute teacher who
y'all pushed too far energy.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
When he has those.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hold up, man, we went to we were a little
too far, you know. But but I want.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
To do what you have free time today? I told
you want you have free time, and now you got
the fucking principle into your t trying to be cool.
I try to be cool, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And and on the lines of that, you know, there
was the postgame congresssation where he was just like, you know,
they asked, hey, do you want to say everybody come back?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Blah blah blah. He was like, I just want us
to do what we need to do to win. I
was like, WHOA like that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Those are harsh words coming from from from fucking Steph. Right,
that's this controversial stuff is gonna get with you like that.
To me, that was big motherfucker, big three nigga. It's
just big me energy right there on that quote, Like
he was like, bro, bro, fuck this friendship ship, get
me some fucking help.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, get it. And
we had a run yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So so, I mean, it's it's so interesting to see
what they're gonna do this summer because it's not an
easy fix there.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It's not like, you know, you're just one piece of way,
You're just one guy away. They've got so many things
to to to fix. I feel like you've got to
get another score there. I feel like you've got to
get another perimeter defender there. You know, there was a
point where Clay was both of those guys, which is
why he was so valuable, right, and they had pool
too when he.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Was looking good too until he got up to it
till last year.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know what I mean, like crazy that we we
had seen the pickups they had and we were thinking
like these guys have elongated what they've already you know
what I mean. They stretched out and did what we
thought they couldn't do, was set themselves up for the
future to still be competing, and.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
All that fell apart. But that's that's that's that's life,
and that's basketball.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Man happens at some.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Point it looks like it's happened so crazy crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's life. I want to obviously shout out to the
Sacramento King. It's very curious. Yeah, yes, he can just
go for his Wifi's too fucked up for him to
hear me say his WiFi is fucked up the last
(22:25):
play playing games in a second. Uh, but I want
to talk about Nick Wright. Uh. Nick right clearly with
the whole household of Sleep did like the night before
Christmas like whisper storytelling into the ears of all the
Warriors Twitter spaces last night. It was one of the
(22:47):
funniest things I've ever heard, because he was just like,
I don't think you understand how broken your whole franchise is.
You're trying to pin this on Steve Kerr, but you're
the foolish ones.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
It was so mass get funny, bro yeah, a massacres.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And of course the clip that that that's been going
viral was when there's that one gold set fans like,
we watched all eighty two games, we know our team,
we know this roster in now and then. And then
Nick was like, okay, you know that's the you know,
authority challenge fallacy right there.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
You know it was some.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Psychology shit, and he basically said, okay, well, by that logic,
if you watch all eighty two games and you know
your team, why did you say that the coaching staff
and the front officer of that watches all eighty two
games and it's their day in and day out with
these these guys in practices and in film sessions is
a bit more familiar.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
With the roster than you are.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And there was a resounding no no, Like thirty motherfuckers
chimed in and said no, no, that ship was so wild.
I mean, look, look, no, I understand fans, you know,
not agreeing with front office moves or agreeing with coaching
decisions and rotating decisions and ship, but you have to
understand you are not more familiar with these rosters and
(23:56):
the talent there than these guys are, right, like you
can say, Okay, there's a blind spy here. I don't
why the coach said doesn't see this, or why isn't
our front office going after this guy like he would
fit perfectly? Of course you can, you can criticize, you know,
like that, But to say that you are more familiar
with the roster and more familiar with with with you know,
the talent and the pieces there, just because you watch
eighty two games while these people are there living this
(24:16):
day in and day out, every second of the fucking day,
that's ludicrous, bro.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It's it was great. I really think so thankful to
Nick because it was a perfect It was a perfect
nightcap to that evening. It was just him whispering, just
like Japanese death poems over the whole franchise, just like
I don't know, I really enjoyed it. All right, Let's
(24:42):
talk briefly about the about the Bulls Hawks game, About
the Kobe White forty point explosion for the Bulls. I
think we all knew, I mean literally, when we tweeted
today that we were gonna go live on YouTube, we
had like three responses that were just like, I'm a
Hawks fan, this is gonna be brutal. So I think
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everyone sort of knew how this was gonna go. But
was it was there anything that surprised you about the
way this went or did you kind of expect to
see the Hawks skit? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I mean Kobe White continues to surprise, Like, geez, you know,
at the top of the season, I thought Tyres Max
was gonna be the runaway most improved player. We got
ourselves a race there, bro, Like, I want to be
surprised when he was that shit he balled out had.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Forty one, I think. But yeah, it was just.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It was a game where you're like, bro, I don't
know what Atlanta does here, like kind of with the
same shit with Golda State, right, Like, of course, you
know they didn't have the rich people problems that Golden
State had. This is a team that just never got
off the runway, really, and it's like, you know, there
was that moment where you just saw the the frustration
with the Jontey Murray after Trey passed it to him
(25:49):
in a bad spot with the clock ticking and he
couldn't really get a shot off, and it's like, bro,
I just do not know what you do here with
this roster either. You know what I mean, like, I'm
not giving up on Tree. I think Trey's an incredible talent.
I think he's a hooper. I think Atlanta needs to
stick with him going forward, of course, but as far
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as that, I just don't know where they go from there.
I think that, you know, the John Ti Murry, he
was supposed to be the Lakers savior this season until
fucking you know, d Angela Russell started going crazy. So
I mean, I do think that that Atlanta is definitely
down to ship that guy out. And I think that
they have to look at that strongly because those two
just it's just not it. Bro, You're just not gonna
go anywhere with with with.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That do over.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
There is Trey Young a number one guy? Are they
going to compete in the NBA with Trey Young being
the guy? You know what I'm saying, We're seeing Jalen
look special. You know, I'm looking like number one guy
type material at his size, which is very common. I
don't think Trey Young, you know is I think Trey
Young is a great, great, great second player, second player.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I think he's still an all star level player, but.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I think like he needs a I think I don't
know if a team can win in the way that
you would want to win and they would expect to
win with you know, with.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
With Tray first first first fans one of the WOMBI,
which will be perfect. But I do not see how
that happens. But yeah, I mean I think that'd be great. Yeah,
I would love to see it. I don't know how
happens either, I mean, make it happen.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
No it, somebody please.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
For real. We've got two remaining playing games. I don't
need either one of these games to occur. Uh, We've
got a bulls a Bulls heat game with no Caruso,
no no, no, no Jay. But uh, and we've got that.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
J But that's what That's what all the kids call
him is Jay. But you heard that. Yeah, and they
listen to rappers. You can't even fucking understand what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Tyler, Hey man, I'm gonna be honest with you. I
was in the gym listen to NBA Young Boy today.
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I get it in the gym, I get I get
what I get Why every decision Jama Ret made I
literally thought, I understand it.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
You know this, this this ship. Yo, Yo. You should
have to be could you should be able to listen
to shit without you know.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
What I'm saying in a in a high you know,
emotion situation under twenty one, that shit is.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
That shit is crack nigga ill in that bag. Like
I'm sound like many backing on that motherfucker bro crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
So I get it, man, he's my god son's favorite rapper.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Well I get it, bro, I get it. Uh yeah,
I didn't understand it to today, but I'll get it now.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
We also have a Pelicans Kings game with no Zion,
so just just spectacular. Listen. You know, I think there
was when they put the playan in there was this
feeling of like, oh, it's it's to expand the teams
that have access. That's not what it's for. It's for
the it's for the seventy six ers. It's for a
team that has a superstar that missed a bunch of
(28:49):
time so they fell to the eight, nine, ten, big market.
You get a chance. That's straight up what it is for.
If we get teams like the Hawks that are under
five hundred, you get teams that are wounded. We don't
need to do this shit. Let's just let's just take
a vote.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Twitter.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Let's just do a Twitter pool. Eight seed decided via
Twitter pool.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's crazy. It's really been an injury fucking play playing. See,
like like we got big injuries in every fucking game.
That's insane.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Before we take a couple questions from the chat, we
have to talk briefly about the other big news from today,
which is the NBA announcing that Johntay Porter has been
banned for life for violating every possible rule. I mean
he's committed like violated criminal law, not just NBA stuff.
But you know, I think there's this big gray area
(29:50):
around professional sports and gambling. There's obviously been a lot
of conversation around that, and I do think there's a
lot of gray area in there. We talked about it
on the favorite one of the volumes Gamling podcasts, about like, hey,
maybe there should be some intermediaries that NFL players can
go through, but like whatever, because some of this thing
where it's like, hey, you put a parlay and it's illegal. Whatever,
(30:11):
But that's not what happened with John tay Porter. John
Tay Porter does not exist in the gray area of
the New World, and I think Tyler, you were on
Bomani's show earlier, and I think Bomani said he's banned
for life for being the stupidest motherfucker who's ever breathed oxygen. Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Bomoni said, who the fuck thought they could make a
million dollars on John tay Port.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
John day Porter's agent doesn't even believe he could make
a million dollars off from John Tae Porter.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It was so fucking stupid putting eighty racks on johns
Porter props, Like, how would you not think that that
would have fucking, you know, alert the fraud department or
whatever the fuck that sees these big bests come through.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Dog.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
It was a stupid fucking move.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And the thing is, we all knew that that we
were probably gonna have something like this and someone's gonna
be made an example of, Bro, And I don't think
they hesitated for a second about being in johnsy Porter
for a whole fuck for his lifetime. Like that decision
came down probably like ten seconds flat. He's lucky this
shit didn't happened in David Stearn's NBA, because David Stern
would have probably sent Fat Tony from Piscataway to break
(31:12):
that motherfucker's legs too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
So you look, you get play, you getting on lay here,
my boy. You know what I'm saying. To find Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So it's just someone had to be the crash dummy,
and this motherfucker was the crashiest of crash dummies.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
This is what I will say. This is what I
will say.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Very stupid how I went about it, But he was
on a two way. The nigga knew he wasn't gonna
be in the league long, that money wasn't gonna last. Baby,
you feel me, I'm gonna try to get as much
suck care while I can't. Ain't nobody betting on G
league fucking games, nigga, you feel me, ain't.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
No money in that, Okay, But let's let's nasty work.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And it's very stupid. But I understand the beginning thought.
I understand that the initial thought.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Odds are better that he turns into an NBA All
Star than they were that he was gonna make one
pint one million dollars on the unders for his own
fucking prop bets eight.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
One point one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think it was a three leg probably who the
fuck has eighty thousand dollars to risk on a three
leg parlay? Bro Like, come on, man, the dumbest fucking
move that that we say very stupid. I get where
it started, though, that's my point.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I get the thought. You just don't follow up on it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's one of the first things my mom taught me
is if it seems too good to be true. It
is like, if you feel like, hey, I can make
a million dollars for nothing just by pretending to be
in why.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Doesn't everybody do this? I'm this fail right in my lap?
What the fuck?
Speaker 6 (32:50):
No guys are also describing like ninety percent of gambling TikTok,
which I'm on the outskirts of, just by like participating
in sports media and having that beat game bling adjacent.
I don't gamble anymore. I used to sports gamble. I
don't gamble anymore. But all they were like, here's them,
here are three fucking locks. No one else has has
ever thought of tap in right now for the for
(33:11):
these unbeatable beds, And I'm like, if they're so unbeatable,
put your fucking mortgage on them.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Pal, like.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
The locks, Why.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Why you tell and not raising the gofundre you're moving?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
You're telling people moving the line? Well, that's uh. Mark
Cuban had a quote about that that I actually really love,
and it does not just apply to gambling tips, but
also to business tips, real estate tips, everything else. He
said this, if any actually wealthy person has a guaranteed
way to make money, they're not filming themselves talking about it.
They're doing it over and over and over and over
(33:46):
again until they have an infinite amount of money. So
like any idea that someone is sharing with other people,
even if they're charging other people for that idea, if
they're charging you for the get rich scheme, that's why
they're getting rich. Yes, how do you get rich? You?
It's just that simple. And there's a lot of people
out there who make money off of gambling, but most
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of them, if not all of them, are not on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Moving the line against their own bet.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I will say this, My brother's in some little groups
and he shown me the numbers. I know how to
go the other way at some point, I hope not.
But my man, whatever they doing over there, he found
the right TikToker.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
He found the right way because I still can't put
no bread on. I'm not I just can't do it.
But yeah, he showed me the numbers. Bro.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
There's there's a couple people that are doing it right YT.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, for sure. But John tay Porter not one of
those people.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
He's not one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
John Tay Porter, Like, I wish we had the curb
your enthusiasm shot of him faking the injury, going to
the bench and sitting there looking at every other player
in the arena like these motherfuckers are stupid.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
This is so easy.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I wish we had.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I want to see his eyes the moment he came
up with the idea, the moment the fucking idea hit him.
I bet I bet he his light skin ass lit up, nigga,
you know.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
What I'm saying. I bet his ass was, Oh my god,
you feel me, nigga.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
That your band from the NBA for fucking life, Nigga,
good luck in Shanghai.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I'll give you forty bucks to play over there. That nigga,
he was trash.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Jackson. We have anything in the chat.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
We do.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
We have a couple, We have a basketball mail back
question for Molly, and then we have a coup.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
We can do a couple of non basketball one.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Till Molly said, if neither Denver or Boston make the finals,
who do you guys think it would be?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
And He's come, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I've got Lakers and Bucks.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
He said, I don't believe in the Bucks at all.
Brod too, Yeah, I'd go. So I'd go Lakers for
the West for sure. I think that if they get
through Denver, they're going to the finals, and shit, I'm
gonna The.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Reason I'm saying the Bucks is because, assuming that Giannis
comes back from injury, I do think they have more
ingredients despite their coaching situation, and then Giannis obviously and
Chris Mitt like, they have guys who've done it. So
that's why I would go with the Bucks, not because
I'm bullish on them, you know. But I also don't
think the Lakers are getting in the first.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Round, so yeah, yeah, I mean, if not the Celtics,
I probably go with the Nicks, even though I'm out
of the mix without Random. Yeah, even though I'm out
on the Nix without without Randon, and I was high
on them, you know, I thought they were gonna take
some shit up this postseason, so random went out.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
But but yeah, it will probably be the Nicks. If
not the Celtics, say okay, Jackson, do you agree disagree?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
I think would be the Knicks. I think maybe the sixth.
I think it's probably the winner of that Knicks.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Sixer series is the best that's outside of the celt.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I'm surprised nobody said Clippers.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
I think the West is kind of wide open, you
could say, I mean, if I still think Denver is
the heavy favorite. But outside of Denver, I think they are.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
The heaviest favorite in the first round.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Right, But outside of if you're saying no Denver, I
think the other seven teams you can make a pretty
good argument for for all well, I guess not not
the Kings of the Pelicans, the other the other six
teams that are in and out. I should say, Yeah,
let's do this question from I don't know how to
pronounce this username, but it's a great question. Is early
(37:28):
fall or early spring better? I feel like early spring
is straight euphoria from winter depression, but early fall is
really cozy.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Give me, give me a time, give me a time frame.
March would be early spring, and yeah, I would say
Marchember would be early fall.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Yes, I would say, so.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I'm going with early spring, bro, because early spring is like,
you know, like you mentioned, you're getting out that winter depression.
It is a promise of great weather for fucking five
or six more months, while you know the fall is perfect.
The weather is great, but that's also kind of a
somber tone to it, where you're like, Okay, these are
the last few good days of weather for the next
five or six months, right, Like there's that like tinge
(38:08):
of sadness that kind of hits you a bit when
you're enjoying that good weather. So for me, at least personally,
so I'm going with spring and people, people.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Who are not on the West Coast really are going
through it, Bro, for half a year. I feel for you, Tyler.
Do you that was like very poetic in moving. Yeah,
September a year starting.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
To get sad, Bro, Like all right, that's yeah, yeah,
the days get shorter too as well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
But my allergies be kicking my ass in the spring,
dog you feel me, and fall, you know, I can
get a fit off, you know what I mean. That's
when I really start dressing, nigga. I'm going with fall brother.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's why you would rather really start fighting over you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's when we hate who's wearing this jacket? Nigga, were
wrestling over wearing my jackets?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
You feel me?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, I'm going with March. I'm going with early spring
just because in southern California, September and October like the hottest,
as hot as fuck for whatever reason, and I actually
prefer the cold weather. Like I'm a mountain. Weather fifty
five to sixty eight degrees is like perfect for me.
So early spring, like the way it was march Us,
that's my that's my speed. You're a mountain man, I'm
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a mountain. I'm a mountain weather. Fifty five degrees is perfect.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Last question, No, make me whip this body hair out
right now.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I believe you, John, I believe y'all. That back probably
goes great fifty five degrees and below.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Let's see our last question of the night from Thomas Flores.
Slightly confusing question, but I think you guys might have
fun with it. Who are two fictional characters you think
could switch stories? Slash worlds and the Successes or Hardships
they face would be the same. My answer is coach
Herman Denzel and remember the Titans and coach Carter Samuel L.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Jackson.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Okay, So, so the questions seeing what fictional characters have
like similar storyline.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I think so if you like swap them there the
outcomes more or less be the same.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Okay, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm gonna go with Odysseus from the Odyssey and Leopold
Bloom from Ulysses.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
How about that.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I feel like our listeners have just the tip of
the iceberg of an understanding of what a fucking literature.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Dollar.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
I'm gonna disagree though on that.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I feel like, listen, Okay, so so let me get
this chair out of here.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Let's talk.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Let's talks, right.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's it's it's it's Odysseus after the Trojan War, trying
to get back home. Right, he's you know, a fucking
military mass of mind. They just beat the funk out
of Troy. It's it's let's beat our chances, go back
home for our wives and fucking you listen the book
that dude is like, I gotta get out of my
apartment because my wife is fucking her fling today, so
(41:08):
I'm just gonna make an adventure and have a day
on the town.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
That's the theme of that.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
Those are like two diametrically oppolic sort of, but also
the I mean, if you if you really want to
dive into the thematic like, but that's sort of the
point of Ulysses is it's like the journey of an
everyday man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Like that's sort of the where it's like folded in
on I'm so happy that dis conversation.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
I love which would you rather do?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Would you rather sail a boat between?
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Find out that you're I.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Want, Yeah, I want to answer where I'm not leaving
a crimp so my wife can fuck another dude, bro,
you know I want that option.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Every time you feel me.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
So, yeah, that's my answer.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I don't have answer, but I think he got would
you ask for? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
That was that was a great answer, Mike.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I appreciate Tyler challenging me because he's because he's also correct,
So he's got a he's got a great point. All Right.
That's it. No other questions.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
That's what we got tonight. We can take more next one,
all right?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Uh, so our recording schedule, we will be Saturdays will
still be Silly Billy Saturdays for people who don't give
a fuck about basketball. Uh, the Saturday episodes are for you.
We will be going live twice a week on the YouTube.
Like we said, YouTube dot com slash at Jakins and Jones.
The next one will be after the Sunday games, so
we'll have the first game from every series to talk
about Sunday night, So plan on hanging out with us.
(42:39):
Then look for the Silly Billy episode on Saturday, and
thank you guys for hanging out Wednesday night. We'll see
y'all soon.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
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have in our beards at.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
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Speaker 3 (02:00):
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Speaker 4 (02:06):
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Speaker 3 (02:19):
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Speaker 5 (02:19):
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about fortunate. Uh, it produces always by the lovely and
talented Jackson Staffron. What all right, let's jump into it today.
We had the Eastern Conference playing games. We had the
Sixers heat and like everyone expected, it was a batoon
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legacy game, batoomb bonanza, that.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
The redemption game, like you know, the running joke is
Blue Bucks playing went on LA leaguers and they had
that freestyle know floor seats at cryptough. I got my
tul in fourth quarter asking why the fuck Matuba and
he fucking put Philadelphia season on his back in the
fourth quarter, right like, Bro, it's been it's been a
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crazy last few days. Like you know, Drake shot back
at everybody. Rick Ross shot back at Drake. Nick Mtune
shot back at Blue Bucks. Clam bro like it's real
out here right.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Now, anybody can get it at any time. Yuh B.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
You know y'all y'all was in the group chat talking shit.
You feel me? But he just he like a player
that hadn't played forty games.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
You know what I'm saying, That's what looked like Arty
was like they said, he was like holding his knee pregame.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
He looked gassed for most of it. You feel me.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Max didn't play well, but shots the batoon man, you
know what I mean, showed up the Frenchman.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
What are he is? Six threes three and the third,
three and the fourth, Yeah, something like that. Anyway, Good
for him, Good for him.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Jackson? Is it you're a Celtics fan? Is this what
you were hoping for? Who are you trying to line up?
Of the four teams limping through the Eastern Conference play ins?
Speaker 6 (04:05):
I suppose I was. Why did I say the other part?
I kind of forget I was fine with either team.
I s guess I don't wish injury in anymore.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
You're not worried about any of them at this point, I.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Mean, especially now that Jimmy Butler has an empty L injury,
that Jimmy Weller has an EMTCL injury, which is that's
very unfortunate, not watching an injury on anyone. But if
they don't have Jimmy for even a couple of games,
even if they make it out of the play and
I don't think they got much of a chance.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I still think that they would have.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
The Celtics would have beat the Sixers if that was
to be the matchup, but at this point, I mean
again not watching injury. But it worked out about as
well as Celtics hoped.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I think, all right, should we talk Lakers Pelicans? Y'all
have anything else on the Sixers heat game?
Speaker 4 (04:45):
N was it?
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Let's not part.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Let's talk about the advisability of Lebron James taking a
charge from Zion Williamson.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Listen through Zion is like, fuck, he put my boy
Bron's toes in the air. I ain't never seen no
shit like that. Like that was a legitimate That was
not a flop, bro. He legitimately knocked Bron's clock off
in that moment, dog like Bro just just insane and
what a fucking games line.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Man like forty points.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
It felt like this was the game we wanted from
him his whole fucking career, and I just hate how
it ended for him.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Though, Man forty points block Bron twice, I believe you
feel me.
Speaker 5 (05:27):
If he doesn't get hurt.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Laker's going to play the Kings, probably gonna lose, probably
going home, Bro, we keep it at a bean dog.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
You know what I'm saying. Bron looked ghasted, ad didn't
look all that good. You feel me? I don't know,
y'all want to play the Nuggets.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
It's I think it's just gonna be an early exit.
We ain't gonna give him much of a shot if
we looked like we did last night. I mean, Dangelo's
not gonna save us, Guys, I'm sorry to say it.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
If we don't even like Bro, Like my whole thing
has always been, Bro, get the Nuggets now, because you're
not going to escape them, like we're gonna think, okay
See or Minnesota or Phoenix is gonna knock them off.
Go get them now, Bro, Like that's that you're gonna
have to go through them sooner or later. Why not
do it sooner?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (06:06):
I mean, I hear you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I just feel like this team is not good enough
to beat that team.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
I wouldn't.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I mean a lot of it's a little bit, you know,
play play extra extra series. Maybe you feel me get
that we have no chance of beating the Nuggets.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
Bro, I mean I want to.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Ship you. Well, let me ask you this let me
ask you this. Let me ask you this. No, No,
I I think I think. I think the Nuggets are
gonna win it all this year. I want to be
very clear on that. But I want to ask you,
who do you think in the West has a better
chance than the Lakers of knocking the Nuggets off?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
No?
Speaker 5 (06:40):
I mean, I'm just I wouldn't say anybody. I think everybody's.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
No.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
Oh, my internet is unstable, that's what's going on. Am
I back?
Speaker 4 (06:54):
You're back?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Can you think anyone in the West has a better
chance to beat the Nuggets and the Lakers?
Speaker 1 (06:59):
I know, I know, I know, I don't think that.
You know, I just I just maybe I'm just frustrated, dude,
you feel me. It's just looking at the team knowing
they don't have a chance. With Bron and ad On,
it is not where I want to be at this point.
At least last year, I felt after they beat the Warriors,
you know what I'm saying. They look deep, They looked
like a good, solid professional basketball team. They made the
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change they need to make when they did in the
middle of the season, and I felt like, yo, they
we have a chance.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
I can't even lie to myself this year.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
Bro, I mean, I think they've got a slim chance.
Like you said, D'Angelo ink on to save us, And
of course you don't want to put your off all
your postseason hopes on D'Angelo Russell. But the fact that
I was, I wasn't. Yeh, yeah, he had a terrible
series against Denver last year. Last year, I think ever yeah, yeah,
he ever was like six point per game, you know,
last season. But Bro, D'Angelo, ever since he got put
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on that fucking trading block, Bro, he has been that guy.
When we were like, yo, we need to get dangel
Russell out here for a number three, It's like, no,
I'm the number three, watch me, and he has balled out, Bro,
And I'm not like, Look, I'm not at all say
like I said, I do think Denver wins this, but
I'm not with you that Los Angeles has no chance.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
I think there's a slim chant.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Anytime you got Bron and ad Bron playing the best
fucking basketball of just about anybody in the league's it's
all star break. Like, Bro, they got a shot man,
a very slim shot, I want to be clear on that,
but they got a shot.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
We last night it looked like the energy had to
put forth and those must win games for the last
fucking month. You feel me caught up to him. You
look like a dude, that an old guy that had
to put more effort than he wanted to at the
end of the season and doesn't have as much energy
right now.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
That's what it looked like to me. So yes, it's
been playing good, but it looked like it's Warren on them.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I think as bron fans and as Lakers fans, what
is difficult is you just keep expecting the next part
of the story and it doesn't come. They got swept
last year, they lose the next four, you know, you
get the great quotes from Ad and Broun, like yeah,
but next time, and then they lose another four games,
you know, and like you get Darvin Ham last night
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saying like we want all the smoke, We're not duck
in phages, it's like you're oh, for your last eight
or whatever it is. I believe four and eleven in
the last fifteen against this team. So at some point
is it a fade or are they just kicking your
ass every day?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Hey, the thing about streaks is they either keep going
on the end at the end of the day, they
got to end.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
As Gloorilla was so eloquently put it.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
So let's see bro, like I said, Like I said,
I think they've got a shot. A very slim shot,
but I think they got a shot.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Man, here's the craziest stat that I've heard. Nick right
tweeted this. So we're gonna talk a little bit more
about Nick right later when we talk about the Warriors.
But Nick tweeted, Lebron has now won nine consecutive do
or die games over the last fifteen years, which is
game sevens and playans, And he said, if you include
the season in season tournament is twelve and zero. His
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last loss in one of those games was two thousand
and eight at Boston when he had forty five, five
and six in a five point loss at age twenty three.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Did he really lose?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
So that's what it's like. But then there's this team
that just just completely owned I mean in the way
that Lebron owned the Eastern Conference for you know, full generation.
That's how the the Nuggets are doing, the Lakers and
everyone else in the West right now. That that's what
it feels like. So it does feel a little hard
to wrap my head around. But I I'll put it
somewhere between no chance and a very slim chance. I'll
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call it like a very very slim chase.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I'm high on the slim chance side of it. I'm
not in the no to slim you know area that
a high on the slim big right.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
Did you guys see the sort of pitch he gave
on his show? It was it was a decent pitch
for someone who is not not in agreement of the
Lakers winning. He was like, what, what are the big
did anyone having like a crazy shooting performance in the
last series? And the answer is yes, the Nuggets shot
the best in that series relative to the rest of
the playoffs by far a Lakers did any end Jewel
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players have either really good games or really bad A
really good series, a really bad series, And it was
like the low had the worst series he's ever had.
Jamal Murray shot like fifty from three almost.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
So I just thirty two a game.
Speaker 6 (11:10):
So Nick writes pitches that if the rosters are mostly
the same and the Nuggets lost Bruce Brown, if some
of those things balance out, maybe it's it's closer than
we think.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
It's a good pitch.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I don't really agree, but but it's a good it's
a good pitch.
Speaker 1 (11:23):
You know how they say women lie numbers, don't you
know what I'm saying, But you can manipulate the numbers
to make them lie.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
That's what he did, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
You know, that's a great way to lie to yourself,
you know, if you want, if you want to believe
the lot and that's I mean.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was eloquently put. You know, Nick
does his homework. He's a very smart guy.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
But for sure, I mean, but if we're kind, and
I know that often playoff series I won by the
role players. You know, they're they're the deciding factors. But
I don't know if I'm just on board with the
loss of Bruce Brown and the ascension of d Angela
Russell's going to decide this series. You know, we've got
Yoki Chen Murray and bron and Ad you know, two
of the top five fucking deals in the league. So
I think it's gonna come down to how well those
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guys play. Of course, and that's not that's not something
super insightful here, but it's it's just fucking basic basketball.
Speaker 5 (12:10):
I think Bron and Eddie can play great and they
could still get swept.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I think that's the
Nuggets are just that much better, you feel me? And
I think the thing that.
Speaker 5 (12:17):
They start like Bron.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I mean, Bron's been really good in the fourth quarter
this season and just career wise period.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
But he really good. He looked bad last game.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
He leads the league in fourth quarter score on this Yeah, yeah,
it looked.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
Bad last game. And they started slow.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
You can't you You're not gonna have a chance of
winning starting slow, like one of those teams are like,
go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
He's been He's been so.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Good the last month. I know, I know he didn't
have a great game to play it, but I'm but
he looks tired.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
He looked tired. It's the difference between looking bad and
looking gassed. To me, that's how That's what it seemed. So,
I mean, hey, he's fucking Lebron. James's an alien. We've
seen him turn his ankle seventeen ways, tied the motherfuck
up and then drop forty. So he's made a liar
in me so many times. I hope he does it.
I just I just don't. I just don't see it.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
You're afraid to get hurt?
Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, bro, Yeah, man, I'm scar to hope. Yeah, you
know what I'm saying. Yeah, mama broke in one time
too many? Brother, You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
We all need therapy after that one foot in Follo
away bullshit soccer throw in that fucking Yokich put up
for a made three pointer over Anthony Davis last year.
That's what it is.
Speaker 7 (13:26):
It's nice the Warriors, Bro, just the years with the Warriors.
Them years beat my ass. Okay, they hurt me, bro.
Well let's talk about.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
The Golden State Warriors. Uh. The fellas were looking mad
prescient on the last episode when we talked about it
might be it might be closing time on the Warriors
dynasty because man, did they ever shut that ship down
in Sacramento? Did you guys enjoy the end of that
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era of basketball or were you sad about it? And
I feel like you may have different answers. Tyler want
to go first.
Speaker 5 (14:10):
I'm for a long time. No, so his experience is
different than mine. I've been gave up on Twitter. You
feel me?
Speaker 2 (14:16):
Yeah, I'm never going to feel sorry for the Warriors, right,
You got four championships in eight years.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
You won three and four.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
A lot of people are gonna say you are the
best basketball team of all time, the KD era Warriors,
right like, they for sure get my vote, and it's like, yes, okay,
the dynasty has probably ended it all dynasties in it
happens to everybody, Like, I don't have any any remorse
or any pity for them. I do think that the
moment where Clay was like soaking it all in was
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what was a bit you know, yeah, yeah, that pulled
on my harshanks a little bit. But then I was
also like, goddamn, bro, you could at least hit one shot, motherfucker.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
You went like zero for ten, like if mother, Like
like what are you looking back at? Like you you
ain't do shit out there?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
But back there, nigga, don't turn around, bro, look forward.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
Dog.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
But yeah, I'm I'm I'm never going to feel sorry
for them, because they sure as fuck ain't feel sorry
for anybody when they were beating the fuck out the
league with the best fucking team we ever saw, with
fucking Steph and KD on the same fucking squad. So no,
I'm not gonna feel sorry for this. Come on, man,
I don't I felt bad.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I think basketball was funner when they were kicking people's ass.
You feel me, and it hasn't felt the same as
much as they scarred me. I watched so much basketwatching them,
and it was so beautiful to see. It's kind of wild.
Them getting older makes me feel old too, you know
what I'm saying. Maybe I'm making this shit personal. Dog
Like damn Steph thirty seven? How old does that make me?
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It's like when you're short of get you know, the
young motherfuckers is old now. God damn man, that makes
me old as hell, you know what I mean? So yeah, gee,
but like yeah, watching that dog, you know what I mean.
I wasn't happy like I thought I would when they
were when they were like the world beaters. You know,
I didn't have that when I knew it in one day,
and I thought I'd be excited, like like Tyler.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
Like.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
I don't have to nerds my misses anymore. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
If you if you're in the trenches long enough, you
don't mind the other side, you know, like you're sure
for mustard gas. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (16:16):
You just and got you know, got a different view,
you know what I mean. Like if I was still
in there fight with them weird ass Warrior nerds nigga,
I'd be like, fuck them niggas, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
But nah, man, it's different. You kind of felt different
seeing them go out like that.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Uh as final proof that the world does not give
a fuck about you, no matter how important in your
in your world. You may be Clay trying to have
that moment of reflection of just like damn, one of
the craziest careers in NBA history, really like one of
the craziest dynasties. He's trying to take that moment in
and the Sacramento King's Arena is like, Dan is how
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we do.
Speaker 8 (16:57):
Friday Night torn Brave, crazy, crave, Betty fallen, you know,
like it always is, bro one team crying. I know,
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my fucker party, bro how it always is. That's why
we love it.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
But what's interesting about this too, is like the Warriors
are not a bad team.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
This was not a this is not a bad season.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
They were like they were like ten games over five
hundred nine or ten games over five hundred you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (17:35):
If they're in the East.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They're in the victim of the victim playing the Bucks,
you know what I'm saying, who don't have Giannis have
a real chance.
Speaker 5 (17:43):
But they're not. They're you know, in the in the West.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Where not only are there good basketball teams, there's good
young basketball teams.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
They're only gonna get better, you know what I'm saying.
So they're they're just one of the.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
It's why it's so hard to evaluate them as like
other basketball products this year because, like you said, they're
ten games over five hundred and while granted it's entirely
Draymond Green's fault that he missed all of those games
when he came back. When he came back, they were
top ten in offensive efficiency, defensive efficiency, like wins, like
they were like one of the best teams in the
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league when he plays on the court, even even with
the fact that they went out sad. So it's I
I can understand why like Warriors fans are like, I mean,
some most just want want Kurt fired because those people are,
you know, crazy, But I can understand why.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I do know, can I I'm sorry, I don't get
the the Steve k the curse.
Speaker 5 (18:33):
They crazy.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Do you see what the Bucks are going through now
with two and like the players the Lakers, there's there's
so many last year.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
It's a bump. There's not many coaches.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Hold one, brother, you know, if you period period, period period.
But I think the best they could do is this,
They're stuck in NBA purgatory in the West.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
The best I can do is like squeeze into the
playoffs at best exit early as a decent NBA team
because they're playing in the West.
Speaker 5 (19:10):
So I mean, yeah, I mean it's it's just sad.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
This is how they go out as just basic bitches
when they was like the baddest bitch on the planet, nigga.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
You know what I'm saying, for so long, gee, step
is what thirty seven.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
The late thirties comes for all of us.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
John bro I mean looks good, he said, great moments.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But also I think that shit that like with Draymond
kind of like lost his shit. Steph is thirty seven.
That motherfucker wasn't just hurt. He was like, I'm so
fucking tired of this shit. Like you know what I mean,
I'm too old for this shit. You feel me, You're like,
I get that energy, dog, I get that energy. Gee,
you feel me?
Speaker 3 (19:47):
So why are we having this shit?
Speaker 9 (19:49):
We's fucking after You're thirty five. You're thirty five, Draymond.
You know better, bro, you know better. No, that man
was tired, don.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
Yeah, you were so tired.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
It's so tired. Are you able to cry?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
He got kids all this ship, bro, He away from
his shorties during the season, and he gotta deal with
this type ship. I get it at thirty seven. Come on, man,
it's already hard. Your body hurting already, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Come on, man, Stephanie having big cool substitute teacher who
y'all pushed too far energy.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
When he has those.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Hold up, man, we went to we were a little
too far, you know. But but I want.
Speaker 5 (20:31):
To do what you have free time today? I told
you want you have free time, and now you got
the fucking principle into your t trying to be cool.
I try to be cool, yeah, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
And and on the lines of that, you know, there
was the postgame congresssation where he was just like, you know,
they asked, hey, do you want to say everybody come back?
Speaker 4 (20:49):
Blah blah blah. He was like, I just want us
to do what we need to do to win. I
was like, WHOA like that.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Those are harsh words coming from from from fucking Steph. Right,
that's this controversial stuff is gonna get with you like that.
To me, that was big motherfucker, big three nigga. It's
just big me energy right there on that quote, Like
he was like, bro, bro, fuck this friendship ship, get
me some fucking help.
Speaker 5 (21:08):
You know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, get it. And
we had a run yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
So so, I mean, it's it's so interesting to see
what they're gonna do this summer because it's not an
easy fix there.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
It's not like, you know, you're just one piece of way,
You're just one guy away. They've got so many things
to to to fix. I feel like you've got to
get another score there. I feel like you've got to
get another perimeter defender there. You know, there was a
point where Clay was both of those guys, which is
why he was so valuable, right, and they had pool
too when he.
Speaker 5 (21:36):
Was looking good too until he got up to it
till last year.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know what I mean, like crazy that we we
had seen the pickups they had and we were thinking
like these guys have elongated what they've already you know
what I mean. They stretched out and did what we
thought they couldn't do, was set themselves up for the
future to still be competing, and.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
All that fell apart. But that's that's that's that's life,
and that's basketball.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
Man happens at some.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
Point it looks like it's happened so crazy crazy.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
That's life. I want to obviously shout out to the
Sacramento King. It's very curious. Yeah, yes, he can just
go for his Wifi's too fucked up for him to
hear me say his WiFi is fucked up the last
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play playing games in a second. Uh, but I want
to talk about Nick Wright. Uh. Nick right clearly with
the whole household of Sleep did like the night before
Christmas like whisper storytelling into the ears of all the
Warriors Twitter spaces last night. It was one of the
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funniest things I've ever heard, because he was just like,
I don't think you understand how broken your whole franchise is.
You're trying to pin this on Steve Kerr, but you're
the foolish ones.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Like it was.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
It was so mass get funny, bro yeah, a massacres.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
And of course the clip that that that's been going
viral was when there's that one gold set fans like,
we watched all eighty two games, we know our team,
we know this roster in now and then. And then
Nick was like, okay, you know that's the you know,
authority challenge fallacy right there.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
You know it was some.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Psychology shit, and he basically said, okay, well, by that logic,
if you watch all eighty two games and you know
your team, why did you say that the coaching staff
and the front officer of that watches all eighty two
games and it's their day in and day out with
these these guys in practices and in film sessions is
a bit more familiar.
Speaker 5 (23:33):
With the roster than you are.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And there was a resounding no no, Like thirty motherfuckers
chimed in and said no, no, that ship was so wild.
I mean, look, look, no, I understand fans, you know,
not agreeing with front office moves or agreeing with coaching
decisions and rotating decisions and ship, but you have to
understand you are not more familiar with these rosters and
(23:56):
the talent there than these guys are, right, like you
can say, Okay, there's a blind spy here. I don't
why the coach said doesn't see this, or why isn't
our front office going after this guy like he would
fit perfectly? Of course you can, you can criticize, you know,
like that, But to say that you are more familiar
with the roster and more familiar with with with you know,
the talent and the pieces there, just because you watch
eighty two games while these people are there living this
(24:16):
day in and day out, every second of the fucking day,
that's ludicrous, bro.
Speaker 3 (24:22):
It's it was great. I really think so thankful to
Nick because it was a perfect It was a perfect
nightcap to that evening. It was just him whispering, just
like Japanese death poems over the whole franchise, just like
I don't know, I really enjoyed it. All right, Let's
(24:42):
talk briefly about the about the Bulls Hawks game, About
the Kobe White forty point explosion for the Bulls. I
think we all knew, I mean literally, when we tweeted
today that we were gonna go live on YouTube, we
had like three responses that were just like, I'm a
Hawks fan, this is gonna be brutal. So I think
(25:03):
everyone sort of knew how this was gonna go. But
was it was there anything that surprised you about the
way this went or did you kind of expect to
see the Hawks skit? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I mean Kobe White continues to surprise, Like, geez, you know,
at the top of the season, I thought Tyres Max
was gonna be the runaway most improved player. We got
ourselves a race there, bro, Like, I want to be
surprised when he was that shit he balled out had.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Forty one, I think. But yeah, it was just.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
It was a game where you're like, bro, I don't
know what Atlanta does here, like kind of with the
same shit with Golda State, right, Like, of course, you
know they didn't have the rich people problems that Golden
State had. This is a team that just never got
off the runway, really, and it's like, you know, there
was that moment where you just saw the the frustration
with the Jontey Murray after Trey passed it to him
(25:49):
in a bad spot with the clock ticking and he
couldn't really get a shot off, and it's like, bro,
I just do not know what you do here with
this roster either. You know what I mean, like, I'm
not giving up on Tree. I think Trey's an incredible talent.
I think he's a hooper. I think Atlanta needs to
stick with him going forward, of course, but as far
(26:09):
as that, I just don't know where they go from there.
I think that, you know, the John Ti Murry, he
was supposed to be the Lakers savior this season until
fucking you know, d Angela Russell started going crazy. So
I mean, I do think that that Atlanta is definitely
down to ship that guy out. And I think that
they have to look at that strongly because those two
just it's just not it. Bro, You're just not gonna
go anywhere with with with.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
That do over.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
There is Trey Young a number one guy? Are they
going to compete in the NBA with Trey Young being
the guy? You know what I'm saying, We're seeing Jalen
look special. You know, I'm looking like number one guy
type material at his size, which is very common. I
don't think Trey Young, you know is I think Trey
Young is a great, great, great second player, second player.
Speaker 5 (26:52):
I think he's still an all star level player, but.
Speaker 1 (26:55):
I think like he needs a I think I don't
know if a team can win in the way that
you would want to win and they would expect to
win with you know, with.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
With Tray first first first fans one of the WOMBI,
which will be perfect. But I do not see how
that happens. But yeah, I mean I think that'd be great. Yeah,
I would love to see it. I don't know how
happens either, I mean, make it happen.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
No it, somebody please.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
For real. We've got two remaining playing games. I don't
need either one of these games to occur. Uh, We've
got a bulls a Bulls heat game with no Caruso,
no no, no, no Jay. But uh, and we've got that.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Is that what we're doing?
Speaker 3 (27:33):
J But that's what That's what all the kids call
him is Jay. But you heard that. Yeah, and they
listen to rappers. You can't even fucking understand what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Tyler, Hey man, I'm gonna be honest with you. I
was in the gym listen to NBA Young Boy today.
I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:54):
I get it in the gym, I get I get
what I get Why every decision Jama Ret made I
literally thought, I understand it.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
You know this, this this ship. Yo, Yo. You should
have to be could you should be able to listen
to shit without you know.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
What I'm saying in a in a high you know,
emotion situation under twenty one, that shit is.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
That shit is crack nigga ill in that bag. Like
I'm sound like many backing on that motherfucker bro crazy.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
So I get it, man, he's my god son's favorite rapper.
Speaker 5 (28:23):
Well I get it, bro, I get it. Uh yeah,
I didn't understand it to today, but I'll get it now.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
We also have a Pelicans Kings game with no Zion,
so just just spectacular. Listen. You know, I think there
was when they put the playan in there was this
feeling of like, oh, it's it's to expand the teams
that have access. That's not what it's for. It's for
the it's for the seventy six ers. It's for a
team that has a superstar that missed a bunch of
(28:49):
time so they fell to the eight, nine, ten, big market.
You get a chance. That's straight up what it is for.
If we get teams like the Hawks that are under
five hundred, you get teams that are wounded. We don't
need to do this shit. Let's just let's just take
a vote.
Speaker 5 (29:10):
Twitter.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
Let's just do a Twitter pool. Eight seed decided via
Twitter pool.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
That's crazy. It's really been an injury fucking play playing. See,
like like we got big injuries in every fucking game.
That's insane.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
Bro.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Before we take a couple questions from the chat, we
have to talk briefly about the other big news from today,
which is the NBA announcing that Johntay Porter has been
banned for life for violating every possible rule. I mean
he's committed like violated criminal law, not just NBA stuff.
But you know, I think there's this big gray area
(29:50):
around professional sports and gambling. There's obviously been a lot
of conversation around that, and I do think there's a
lot of gray area in there. We talked about it
on the favorite one of the volumes Gamling podcasts, about like, hey,
maybe there should be some intermediaries that NFL players can
go through, but like whatever, because some of this thing
where it's like, hey, you put a parlay and it's illegal. Whatever,
(30:11):
But that's not what happened with John tay Porter. John
Tay Porter does not exist in the gray area of
the New World, and I think Tyler, you were on
Bomani's show earlier, and I think Bomani said he's banned
for life for being the stupidest motherfucker who's ever breathed oxygen. Bro.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
Bomoni said, who the fuck thought they could make a
million dollars on John tay Port.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
John day Porter's agent doesn't even believe he could make
a million dollars off from John Tae Porter.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
But yeah, it was.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
It was so fucking stupid putting eighty racks on johns
Porter props, Like, how would you not think that that
would have fucking, you know, alert the fraud department or
whatever the fuck that sees these big bests come through.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Dog.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
It was a stupid fucking move.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
And the thing is, we all knew that that we
were probably gonna have something like this and someone's gonna
be made an example of, Bro, And I don't think
they hesitated for a second about being in johnsy Porter
for a whole fuck for his lifetime. Like that decision
came down probably like ten seconds flat. He's lucky this
shit didn't happened in David Stearn's NBA, because David Stern
would have probably sent Fat Tony from Piscataway to break
(31:12):
that motherfucker's legs too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (31:14):
So you look, you get play, you getting on lay here,
my boy. You know what I'm saying. To find Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
So it's just someone had to be the crash dummy,
and this motherfucker was the crashiest of crash dummies.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
Bro.
Speaker 5 (31:27):
This is what I will say. This is what I
will say.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Very stupid how I went about it, But he was
on a two way. The nigga knew he wasn't gonna
be in the league long, that money wasn't gonna last. Baby,
you feel me, I'm gonna try to get as much
suck care while I can't. Ain't nobody betting on G
league fucking games, nigga, you feel me, ain't.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
No money in that, Okay, But let's let's nasty work.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
And it's very stupid. But I understand the beginning thought.
I understand that the initial thought.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
Odds are better that he turns into an NBA All
Star than they were that he was gonna make one
pint one million dollars on the unders for his own
fucking prop bets eight.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
One point one million dollars.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
I think it was a three leg probably who the
fuck has eighty thousand dollars to risk on a three
leg parlay? Bro Like, come on, man, the dumbest fucking
move that that we say very stupid. I get where
it started, though, that's my point.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I get the thought. You just don't follow up on it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It's one of the first things my mom taught me
is if it seems too good to be true. It
is like, if you feel like, hey, I can make
a million dollars for nothing just by pretending to be
in why.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Doesn't everybody do this? I'm this fail right in my lap?
What the fuck?
Speaker 6 (32:50):
No guys are also describing like ninety percent of gambling TikTok,
which I'm on the outskirts of, just by like participating
in sports media and having that beat game bling adjacent.
I don't gamble anymore. I used to sports gamble. I
don't gamble anymore. But all they were like, here's them,
here are three fucking locks. No one else has has
ever thought of tap in right now for the for
(33:11):
these unbeatable beds, And I'm like, if they're so unbeatable,
put your fucking mortgage on them.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Pal, like.
Speaker 5 (33:18):
The locks, Why.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Why you tell and not raising the gofundre you're moving?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
You're telling people moving the line? Well, that's uh. Mark
Cuban had a quote about that that I actually really love,
and it does not just apply to gambling tips, but
also to business tips, real estate tips, everything else. He
said this, if any actually wealthy person has a guaranteed
way to make money, they're not filming themselves talking about it.
They're doing it over and over and over and over
(33:46):
again until they have an infinite amount of money. So
like any idea that someone is sharing with other people,
even if they're charging other people for that idea, if
they're charging you for the get rich scheme, that's why
they're getting rich. Yes, how do you get rich? You?
It's just that simple. And there's a lot of people
out there who make money off of gambling, but most
(34:07):
of them, if not all of them, are not on TikTok.
Speaker 5 (34:11):
Moving the line against their own bet.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
I will say this, My brother's in some little groups
and he shown me the numbers. I know how to
go the other way at some point, I hope not.
But my man, whatever they doing over there, he found
the right TikToker.
Speaker 5 (34:27):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
He found the right way because I still can't put
no bread on. I'm not I just can't do it.
But yeah, he showed me the numbers. Bro.
Speaker 5 (34:37):
There's there's a couple people that are doing it right YT.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, for sure. But John tay Porter not one of
those people.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
He's not one of those guys.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
John Tay Porter, Like, I wish we had the curb
your enthusiasm shot of him faking the injury, going to
the bench and sitting there looking at every other player
in the arena like these motherfuckers are stupid.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
This is so easy.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I wish we had.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I want to see his eyes the moment he came
up with the idea, the moment the fucking idea hit him.
I bet I bet he his light skin ass lit up, nigga,
you know.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
What I'm saying. I bet his ass was, Oh my god,
you feel me, nigga.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
That your band from the NBA for fucking life, Nigga,
good luck in Shanghai.
Speaker 3 (35:27):
You feel me.
Speaker 5 (35:28):
I'll give you forty bucks to play over there. That nigga,
he was trash.
Speaker 3 (35:32):
Jackson. We have anything in the chat.
Speaker 4 (35:33):
We do.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
We have a couple, We have a basketball mail back
question for Molly, and then we have a coup.
Speaker 4 (35:38):
We can do a couple of non basketball one.
Speaker 6 (35:40):
Till Molly said, if neither Denver or Boston make the finals,
who do you guys think it would be?
Speaker 4 (35:45):
And He's come, that's a good question.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
I've got Lakers and Bucks.
Speaker 5 (35:53):
Hmmm.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
He said, I don't believe in the Bucks at all.
Brod too, Yeah, I'd go. So I'd go Lakers for
the West for sure. I think that if they get
through Denver, they're going to the finals, and shit, I'm
gonna The.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Reason I'm saying the Bucks is because, assuming that Giannis
comes back from injury, I do think they have more
ingredients despite their coaching situation, and then Giannis obviously and
Chris Mitt like, they have guys who've done it. So
that's why I would go with the Bucks, not because
I'm bullish on them, you know. But I also don't
think the Lakers are getting in the first.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Round, so yeah, yeah, I mean, if not the Celtics,
I probably go with the Nicks, even though I'm out
of the mix without Random. Yeah, even though I'm out
on the Nix without without Randon, and I was high
on them, you know, I thought they were gonna take
some shit up this postseason, so random went out.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
But but yeah, it will probably be the Nicks. If
not the Celtics, say okay, Jackson, do you agree disagree?
Speaker 6 (36:48):
I think would be the Knicks. I think maybe the sixth.
I think it's probably the winner of that Knicks.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
Sixer series is the best that's outside of the celt.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
I'm surprised nobody said Clippers.
Speaker 6 (36:59):
I think the West is kind of wide open, you
could say, I mean, if I still think Denver is
the heavy favorite. But outside of Denver, I think they are.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
The heaviest favorite in the first round.
Speaker 6 (37:08):
Right, But outside of if you're saying no Denver, I
think the other seven teams you can make a pretty
good argument for for all well, I guess not not
the Kings of the Pelicans, the other the other six
teams that are in and out. I should say, Yeah,
let's do this question from I don't know how to
pronounce this username, but it's a great question. Is early
(37:28):
fall or early spring better? I feel like early spring
is straight euphoria from winter depression, but early fall is
really cozy.
Speaker 3 (37:35):
Give me, give me a time, give me a time frame.
March would be early spring, and yeah, I would say
Marchember would be early fall.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
Yes, I would say, so.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
I'm going with early spring, bro, because early spring is like,
you know, like you mentioned, you're getting out that winter depression.
It is a promise of great weather for fucking five
or six more months, while you know the fall is perfect.
The weather is great, but that's also kind of a
somber tone to it, where you're like, Okay, these are
the last few good days of weather for the next
five or six months, right, Like there's that like tinge
(38:08):
of sadness that kind of hits you a bit when
you're enjoying that good weather. So for me, at least personally,
so I'm going with spring and people, people.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Who are not on the West Coast really are going
through it, Bro, for half a year. I feel for you, Tyler.
Do you that was like very poetic in moving. Yeah,
September a year starting.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
To get sad, Bro, Like all right, that's yeah, yeah,
the days get shorter too as well, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
But my allergies be kicking my ass in the spring,
dog you feel me, and fall, you know, I can
get a fit off, you know what I mean. That's
when I really start dressing, nigga. I'm going with fall brother.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
That's why you would rather really start fighting over you.
Speaker 1 (38:46):
That's when we hate who's wearing this jacket? Nigga, were
wrestling over wearing my jackets?
Speaker 5 (38:52):
You feel me?
Speaker 3 (38:52):
Yeah, I'm going with March. I'm going with early spring
just because in southern California, September and October like the hottest,
as hot as fuck for whatever reason, and I actually
prefer the cold weather. Like I'm a mountain. Weather fifty
five to sixty eight degrees is like perfect for me.
So early spring, like the way it was march Us,
that's my that's my speed. You're a mountain man, I'm
(39:15):
a mountain. I'm a mountain weather. Fifty five degrees is perfect.
Speaker 5 (39:23):
All right?
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Last question, No, make me whip this body hair out
right now.
Speaker 5 (39:27):
I believe you, John, I believe y'all. That back probably
goes great fifty five degrees and below.
Speaker 6 (39:38):
Let's see our last question of the night from Thomas Flores.
Slightly confusing question, but I think you guys might have
fun with it. Who are two fictional characters you think
could switch stories? Slash worlds and the Successes or Hardships
they face would be the same. My answer is coach
Herman Denzel and remember the Titans and coach Carter Samuel L.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Jackson.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Okay, So, so the questions seeing what fictional characters have
like similar storyline.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I think so if you like swap them there the
outcomes more or less be the same.
Speaker 4 (40:08):
Okay, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
I'm gonna go with Odysseus from the Odyssey and Leopold
Bloom from Ulysses.
Speaker 5 (40:18):
How about that.
Speaker 6 (40:20):
I feel like our listeners have just the tip of
the iceberg of an understanding of what a fucking literature.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
Dollar.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
Speaker 4 (40:33):
I'm gonna disagree though on that.
Speaker 2 (40:36):
I feel like, listen, Okay, so so let me get
this chair out of here.
Speaker 3 (40:43):
Let's talk.
Speaker 5 (40:44):
Let's talks, right.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
It's it's it's it's Odysseus after the Trojan War, trying
to get back home. Right, he's you know, a fucking
military mass of mind. They just beat the funk out
of Troy. It's it's let's beat our chances, go back
home for our wives and fucking you listen the book
that dude is like, I gotta get out of my
apartment because my wife is fucking her fling today, so
(41:08):
I'm just gonna make an adventure and have a day
on the town.
Speaker 4 (41:10):
That's the theme of that.
Speaker 10 (41:11):
Those are like two diametrically oppolic sort of, but also
the I mean, if you if you really want to
dive into the thematic like, but that's sort of the
point of Ulysses is it's like the journey of an
everyday man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (41:26):
Like that's sort of the where it's like folded in
on I'm so happy that dis conversation.
Speaker 5 (41:33):
I love which would you rather do?
Speaker 3 (41:36):
Would you rather sail a boat between?
Speaker 5 (41:39):
Find out that you're I.
Speaker 2 (41:41):
Want, Yeah, I want to answer where I'm not leaving
a crimp so my wife can fuck another dude, bro,
you know I want that option.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
Every time you feel me.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
So, yeah, that's my answer.
Speaker 5 (41:58):
I don't have answer, but I think he got would
you ask for? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (42:03):
That was that was a great answer, Mike.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I appreciate Tyler challenging me because he's because he's also correct,
So he's got a he's got a great point. All Right.
That's it. No other questions.
Speaker 4 (42:14):
That's what we got tonight. We can take more next one,
all right?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Uh, so our recording schedule, we will be Saturdays will
still be Silly Billy Saturdays for people who don't give
a fuck about basketball. Uh, the Saturday episodes are for you.
We will be going live twice a week on the YouTube.
Like we said, YouTube dot com slash at Jakins and Jones.
The next one will be after the Sunday games, so
we'll have the first game from every series to talk
about Sunday night, So plan on hanging out with us.
(42:39):
Then look for the Silly Billy episode on Saturday, and
thank you guys for hanging out Wednesday night. We'll see
y'all soon.
Speaker 5 (42:45):
Bye bye.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
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