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Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is the Jody Jones Show on FOURTOG ninety six
seven and day. I'm fourteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Jody Jones Show. I'm
in studio as always with Frank Van Lanningham.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey guys, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Today we have Vicelia City Mayor Brett Taylor. He served
on the Tillerry County Planning Commission and four years the
City Council before he became mayor of Vicelia, and we
the way I met him, well, I've met him a
few times here and there, but we were at last month.
We were at a Central Committee meeting and he was
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talking about low housing projects that California basically pushes on everyone.
So I thought it would be very interesting having him on.
We're going to talk about that, and we're also going
to talk about later in the show just by Sellia's vision,
because uh, we live down in the South Valley. I do,
(01:36):
so does Frank love it down there, love ice Elia,
And I think that everybody's gonna be very interested in
hearing what he has to say about all this. Mayor Taylor,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm doing wonderful. Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here. And you know, professionally, I'm
the CEO for the Taylor County Association of Walters and
so housing is you know, my my bread and butter.
It's what I do every single day.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do you know Chris Jolly, I do.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
He was actually our president last year. Great guy.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah. And then you know Diana Clark.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
And I know Diana also, she was my president I
think about four or five years.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
If you're listening, how you guys doing?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Shout out to those guys that they're so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Sorry to interrupt you.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
But yeah, so that's kind of my bread and butter
is housing. And you know, recently we've had a lot
of people talking about this because a lot of these
projects that have been pushed through the state are now
starting to be built here and by site, and so
we've had a lot of people from our community reach
out to us and say, hey, what's going on? How
did this happen? And so I'm glad to be able
to explain, you know, the situation of how these happen.
(02:42):
Because nobody's against housing, right, like, we all see the
need for housing in all kinds of houses.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But you know, you get senators like Padilla Steep Idea
from San Diego, and you know, they write these these
bills and and they name them the Housing Crisis Act,
you know what I mean. And when you do a
deeper dive in look into the bills, it has nothing
to do with you know, a CRISI crisis or or
pretty much anything that you know, the topic says. It's
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you start doing a deeper dive and you go, man,
it's doing the exact opposite.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
You always have to look at the name when they
say it's the for love and puppies and great things
for everybody act. You always know there's something wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
There's any love, there's never any puppies. No, there's that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's just the opposite, you know, right, and and that
you know, if you see that, you're in tennis, should
go immediately, go.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Up, absolutely, because they very strategically name those that way,
you know, because it's a lot harder to say, no,
I'm not voting for puppy and love, you know. Like so, yeah,
they're very strategic in the way that they.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Know well and we all know that they're very strategic
in how they do it. And it's not just one bill.
It'll be like two or three or four bills that
all tie into each other and off the air, you
and I were talking about some bills that was linked together,
and one of them is s B. So if you
don't know what s B, that means Senate bill, that
means a sin. The Senate come up with a center,
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which is Padilla. So it's SB three three zero and
that's the one they call the Housing Crisis Act of
twenty nineteen, which is totally not what it is. And
I'm gonna let may Or Brett Taylor just basically explain
what it's actually doing, where the rubber meets the road,
what it's actually doing.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
So so these bills, obviously, they're always tied together, you know,
like the one that I was specifically referring to was
the Housing Accountability Act, right, But they're all tied together
because a lot of times they'll take bits and pieces
and you know, tweak those previous legislation that was passed.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And so before we go any further, let's make sure
everybody understands who they are at the office of They,
which is the Progressive Democrats up in Sacramento. That's who's
doing this.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's Sacramento, Sacramento is running the show. And obviously, yeah,
they have a super majority up there.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Aaron referred to as they them, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
And so we have a project that was recently a
proved And again, like nobody in VISAIA is against housing, right,
like ISAIA is very pro housing. You know, we want
our people to have children, and we don't want those
kids living with them forever. We expect them to be
able to go out and get a job and support
themselves and buy their own home and rent their own
apartments someday. But we have a project that is over
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on Ghoshen and Demory.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I know exactly where it's at.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Right, and it's it's been. It's a great part of
the town where everyone wants to live the last twenty
plus years, you know, everyone's wanting to live up on
the northwest part of town because they've done we've done
a good job of developing it up there. But we
have this this area where it was probably the worst
congestion that we have in the entire city of Isaiah.
And so we we recognize that and we went in
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and spent a lot of money fixing you know, that intersection,
widening everything, you know, getting better lights, timing everything. And
then we were looking at some of the empty land
around it, and we we downzone the land because and
not in value, right, we downzoned it in use. So
if you look on that corner, there's actually a store
facility right there, right, because it was so heavily impacted.
(06:03):
You know, we're like, realistically, what would make the most
sense putting a commercial shopping center there?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And when you guys make these decisions, it's for the community.
It's for the betterment of the community because you guys,
you live there, you know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
We get people telling us all the time, oh, you
just to prove that project because it's going to bring
X amount of dollars to the city. I will tell people,
I've never once asked or have ever seen what a
project will bring financially to the table. We look at
what's best for.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Our community, right and I believe that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
So, you know, we downzone this project and then, you know,
because the traffic was so bad there, even though it
makes sense to have a shopping center, you know, more family,
single family homes out there, or even multi residential, right,
but we had to downzone it because the traffic was
already bad. So all of a sudden, then we started
getting a bunch of projects, and not just here we saw.
We've seen a few of them get approved, but I
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think this is the first one who's who's actually gotten
funded and started construct. So this one, what it was
was they're building I think it was between three and
four hundred units right there. And you know, with this
this new bill that passed, we can't have the same
type of parking requirements that we would on any other project.
They get a density bonus, which means they have to
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pay less impact fees than you know, everyone else. Who's
that the developer, right, And so they.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Get to I asked that question because I'm going to
kind of allude to something else once we're once you
get that.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And so we give them bonuses that we wouldn't give
anyone else because they're building deed restricted fifty five year
low income housing. And again it's not that we're against
you know, any type of housing projects. We need all
different kinds, but they with this law that passed, they
can build it anywhere in the state of California.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And that's these these bills that we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yeah, it's a whole slew of bills that we've gone
through a few of them right now. So some of
them are Senate Bill thirty three, Assembly Bill thirty one,
ninety four, Assembly Bill fifteen fifteen, you know, the Housing
Accountability Act. So it's just a bunch of different bills. Yeah,
and so what essentially did is it really takes away
the local control for communities because we know what's best
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were these you know, we're residential development, industrial were its
best right the state and it's infinite wisdom just passes
a law that says they can go anywhere in the
state of California on any zoning, on any parcel.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's because they want total control, that's why.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
And so you know, then we have all these these
residents that are living around here, and some of them,
you know, have some really nice homes, and they're like,
you know, hey, why are you putting three or four
story apartment complexes? And it's like, we have no control,
right And a matter of fact, the way the law
was written, if we were to have stopped this project,
it's a ten thousand dollars fine, and not just a
flat ten thousand dollars, it's ten thousand dollars per unit,
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So you're talking about three four million dollar fine.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And can the contractor itself like sue the city or.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
And I even had a contract I think it was
jokingly say he's like, you know, I was actually hoping
you guys would deny my project because then, you know,
you guys would end up funding a good majority of it,
you know, with with this lawsuit, and we approved the project,
so we obviously couldn't sue us. But you know, that's
the unfortunate part. It's you have a community like Visaiah,
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who is very pro housing, who supports us, and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yet the states, Yeah, absolutely, we have to do on everything.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And it leads to us looking like San Francisco or
us looking like la And if we wanted that, we'd
live up there, right, we don't want that. We want
to live in Viceiah.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So this is the way the state controls places like Vicelia.
And because it's a charter city, correct, Yeah, is a
charter so you know, really quick, explain what a charter
city is to everybody.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So a charter city, essentially we're governed by that document, right,
So that tells us everything. So like the city of Isaiah,
it tells us how many city council members we have,
the power that we have. You know, like Isaiah City Council,
we actually only hire uh, well technically three employees, but
right now we only hire two, which is our city
manager and city attorney. We don't have the authority to
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go in there and fire or hire a police.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Basically, what it does it kind of takes the power
away from the state to making you do things that
you don't really want to do. You want to kind
of be your own community. Yeah, it's it's our own
sovereignty like city community. However, then Sacramento does things like this.
That's their way of controlling cities such as Vicelia, Porteville,
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Huntington Beach, and that's the way they that's the way
they do this these things.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
So is there any workaround? Is there any mechanism that
you have at your disposal to push back against this
stuff or is it just roll over and let them
do it?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
So, I mean, we always have the option, you know.
So the charter city the great things. That's not We
don't go and change things as the council. It's voted
on by the people. So if you want to make
any changes, it's the people who have to make.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
That is that is the big thing about charter city,
right or a county. A county could be a charter
county as well, right, I believe. So yeah, so it's
the people. The people's in charge of that.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
So and the people say we don't want this development
or or is it a done deal?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
It just has to happen, end of story.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, because because of the Senate bill, it has to
they can't. They're very limited. When when the bill passes,
that's law, you know. So the city councils, the city managers,
everybody that's dealing with anything with you know, in the
housing like that, their hands are tied.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Right right until I watch Fox News and then I
see Huntington Beach what happened?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
So, I mean what you're seeing with cities like that
is I have the money. They're they're kind of saying, hey,
you know, we're a charter city. You're passing laws that
are that are directly interfering with the way that we
want to operate, right and they're tewn the city the
state to pound sand And you know, if you're Huntington
Beach and you have a lot of of those tax
revenues that they have, it's a lot easier to be
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able to act that way. When you're like a community
like if I say, or Portoville or some of our
smaller local cities. The state threatens se if you don't
do this, we'll withhold you know, road funding from you,
or will withhold you know, grant funding.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And a matter of fact, they do do that right
as in our.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Grants that we apply. Part of the questions are are
you following X Y Z laws? So yeah, and if
we're not, then we wouldn't qualify for that grant if
we're not following whichever laws that they put on that questionnaire.
If we're following.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So awesome, Hey, We're going to take a break right
now and when we come back we can actually talk
to Mayor Taylor about the vision of by Sell You
the Future.
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Speaker 3 (14:54):
We have in studio by Selya City Mayor Brett Taylor.
We've been talking about some projects and some bills that
the infinite wisdom of our bureaucrats and Sacramento are pushing
on our good communities in our cities and our counties.
And right now though, we are going to discuss with
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Brett Taylor the vision of Vice Olia. I love Vice,
so you you man, it's it's a great city.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You guys are doing great things there. Man, you guys
are really making a difference and we absolutely appreciate you
guys for doing that. So good go ahead, Mary.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I appreciate because you know Obviously, I love Visa and
I think we've been doing a lot of things right.
So something that I think needs to be applauded is
we're building our new civic center, which is going to
have our city Hall. It's going to have our our
you know, our building for our police. Uh, it's going
to have the police storage facility for you know, all
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the evidence. And this is a project that we are
paying for one in cash. It's one hundred million dollar project,
and we've been saving for this for decades. I mean,
I think it's been forty plus years. And to get
so many council members, city managers to stay on focus of, hey,
we don't want to get in debt, that's not the
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Visia away, and we're going to keep on putting money
away and not you know, get someone who wants that
pet project and then you know, grab some funds and
you know, build a park or you know, do whatever
pet project. To see that happen, you just don't see
it anywhere else. And so we are super excited. We're
actually gonna be breaking ground on that project here in
the next few months.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Aweso.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
We just awarded the bid to Sales Construction. They're a
local contractor from Viseiah. Actually one of my neighbors you know,
works there, So it's it's great. But on top of that,
we also just hit a new benchmark where we have
a thirty percent reserve for our funding of our cities,
so we basically we know what it costs to run
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our city. We have abot a hundred million dollars a
year budget and we have a thirty percent strategic reserve.
And to be able to do that really puts us
in a strong position because if there's another economic downturn,
you know, we have those funds to be able to
continue to serve our community in the best way possible.
So we're in a really great position. We've also because
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we've been very frugal with our citizens' money, We've you know,
we're fully staffed. We for the first time in a
long time, and a lot of us from this whole
crazy defund the police, you know movement which just devastated
small communities. Like if I say, a year ago, we
were down thirty seven police officers. Wow, that is huge.
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We're now one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I want to talk about something, you know, Frank, he
is a construction He's a construction guy, and he owns
his own business, Frank Vanline and Construction.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
And.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
He builds a lot of eighty us. Oh yeah, I
know we have some questions about that, and he wants
to talk about that.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
I really like the ADU as a content, I truly do.
But if there's anything I think we can learn from,
it's other cities, what their failings are, what their successes are.
The San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I'm sure you've know a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
In the last say thirty years, it seems like everybody's
got a garage that's been turned into an ADU. Then
the house got cut into two. Now you've got three
houses on a lot. And I've done a lot of building.
I'm originally from Los Angeles and I've worked in neighborhoods
that were all sfrs, you know, six thousand square foot lots,
and now down in a certain area, you can take
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a fifty one fifty lot, you can turn it into
five individual pieces and it's probably gone to more than
that now and literally sell them off.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
This is no longer a five plex, this is five units.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know, air deeds in the whole nine yards and
forever the complexion of the neighborhood is shattered.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It's changed.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
So this was actually a bill that was sponsored by
the California Association Realtors, So we this is actually a
bill that we had lobbied for a few years ago
to get past. And it's really because the state is
not building enough housing right right, So instead of you know,
housing shouldn't be like this finite resource. Everybody should have
a home. I mean, I've heard the stories when people
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would go and buy a home on a Sears catalog
and it would be shipped on the train and you know,
the family would get together and build it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
But now with we've the state has put so many
regulations and local municipalities have put so many regulations that
we've you know, essentially stopped building. We're short two to
three million homes, and so we're now having to kind
of get creative in these policies to allow cities to
start building. And so, you know, just like this one,
we're allowed to have you know, a junior ADU and
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then an attached ADU and then you can split a
lot into two and then build you know, two units,
and so yeah, it doesn't lead to you know, the
best policy. It was one of the things I was
afraid of, like this might work in you know, coastal communities.
Is this going to work in you know, if I
say you a no Clovis you know Portoville TOI Larry,
you know, I don't know if it's going to work.
And we've seen some pop up here in Vicelia primarily though,
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what we're seeing is it's really like on corner lots
and you know, larger lots where the backyard is not
really being used, and we're seeing someone split that off
and and build a second home back there. And so
we are definitely seeing a movement as a whole in
the state that younger people aren't wanting to mowlawans. They
don't want to take care of yards, they don't want
to play baseball in the backyard. They'll go to the
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park if they want to play baseball. And so we
are seeing smaller and smaller lots because it used to
be normal. A six thousand score foot lot was pretty normal.
Before that, it was like a twelve thousand score foot lot,
and now we're seeing three thousand score foot lots, four
thousand score foot lots, and so but yeah, that's one
of the policies. That's really you know, starting to pick
up a little steam even by Selia. And what the
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state required is that you know, every city approved these
by right. You know, you can't stop them. And then
so what Viseia did is we actually if you want
to go onto our way website with the city off
I say his website, we actually have pre approved plans
that that the city's paid for. That is as long
as you use this, uh you know, gets approved by right.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And so you go, you know skylab like I do.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Then yeah, I got him on speed del close personal
friend of mine, great guy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
That he actually drew up some plans for a well.
It was originally a garage but then turned into a
shed because the city wouldn't allow a garage. But my
shed parks a nice car.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yeah, he's got like three is doing for me right
now and awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
He's he's a valuable resource.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
For the for the community and I love him like
a brother. Question I have for you if you were
to look at all the different cities out there that
are slightly larger than us, and one one comes to mind,
and it kind of makes me feel ill.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Stockton.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You know, here's a place that's got a deep water
port to the ocean, it's got egg it's on the
ninety nine corridor.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It like checks all the boxes.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yet the corruptions off the charts, bankruptcy.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
So I don't know what I model after them. Probably not.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
But what shity would you look to and say this
is what we should emulate.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
What attributes would you go for?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
So me, personally, I don't look at any specific city
and say this is like the perfect city. I look
at all the good things communities are doing. Like you know,
Clovis has done an amazing job of making education their focus,
and because of that, people want to move to Clovis. Actually,
you know, when my coworkers you know, lives in Clovis
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because he values that education aspect for his children. And
so we look at all the different cities and but
we still want to make sure that we keep Bysia's heritage.
By Saia is a farming community. You know, we are
rooted deep in the farming community, and so we want
to keep that heritage. And that's why I think we've
done a really good job of continuing to focus, you know,
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on our downtown. I had someone tell me that by sayah,
it was like a Hallmark movie because they were downtown.
There is music on the you know, over the air,
the lights were all lit up, you know, our restaurants
and bars field. They're like, we're in this little tiny
city and there's just people everywhere. And I'm like, well,
we're not so small. We're you know, one hundred and forty
seven thousand people. But I think because you know, we're
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not looking to be another city, we're just focusing on
what we do best, you know, focusing on who we are,
that we're still able to grow. I mean, we have
one hundred and fifty thousand people and we still feel
like a small city.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Is is there an upper limit?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I mean, so we actually met with Congressman Fong the
other day and he'scarried the heck out of our city
manager because he was talking about where all the growth
is going to be, like the American Dreams Alive and well,
California it's just dead on the on the coast, right,
So they're coming to you know, the inland cities where
they can still afford to buy home. I mean, for
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you can buy a
brand new home, and by site.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
That's scary because that will change something.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, that's not even a down payment in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
No, No, you couldn't even buy a lot for that,
I mean. And so what we're seeing is, you know
that the American dreams live and well, and people are
moving here from you know, other areas throughout the state
because they still want to be able to buy that house.
You know, they still want to have children that they
can raise it. You know, some people still want to
play you know, football or basketball in the backyard, and
you know, they want that sense of community. So I
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think we're doing a good job of managing the growth
of a big city because you know, we have all
the big city issues with crime and homelessness and you know,
traffic and everything else. But yet people still say, we
love it. It feels nice. It feels like a small community.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
So what's the upper number that you would assine to
this half a million?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Well, and that's what Congressman fun kind of scared, you know,
our city manager, because he's like, there's gonna be you know,
I forget now. But it was something like four million
people were going to be moving into you know, the
Central Valley over the next few years. Yeah, it really
scared the Leslie Kavilia because she's like, oh, craud, you know, like, yeah,
where's this going to go? Because as a city, we're
not just like, you know, grow baby, grow at all costs, right,
(24:51):
But yeah, I mean, I mean, at the end of
the day, there is no you know limit, like if
I say, it is just going to keep on growing naturally.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And it's like it's been one of the largest capita
growing city in California right for like the last five
six years.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, if you look from twenty ten to twenty twenty
by Saya has been one of the largest small metro
or the fastest growing small metro cities in the United States.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And so yeah, we've been focusing on it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Well, I got to say, looking at it, you know,
from my perspective and seeing what you've done so far
and seeing the trajectory of the city.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I feel good about it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
I know that our prices are going to draw people in.
It's a natural and there's a reason why I will
stay here. It's you know, a guy can work at
a tire shop and still buy a house. Yeah, yeah,
try that anywhere else. Yeah, but we're lucky to have.
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If I sell your community be more specific. But I
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Speaker 5 (26:00):
Thank you guys for having me us an honor and
I'm always willing to brag about by site.
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Thank you, buddy. Hey, next week we're going to have
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Thanks folks, good things, and God bless me.
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Jody Jones Show. I'm
in studio as always with Frank Van Lanningham.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey guys, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Today we have Vicelia City Mayor Brett Taylor. He served
on the Tillerry County Planning Commission and four years the
City Council before he became mayor of Vicelia, and we
the way I met him, well, I've met him a
few times here and there, but we were at last month.
We were at a Central Committee meeting and he was
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talking about low housing projects that California basically pushes on everyone.
So I thought it would be very interesting having him on.
We're going to talk about that, and we're also going
to talk about later in the show just by Sellia's vision,
because uh, we live down in the South Valley. I do,
(01:36):
so does Frank love it down there, love ice Elia,
And I think that everybody's gonna be very interested in
hearing what he has to say about all this. Mayor Taylor,
how are you doing today?
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I'm doing wonderful. Thank you so much for having me.
I'm excited to be here. And you know, professionally, I'm
the CEO for the Taylor County Association of Walters and
so housing is you know, my my bread and butter.
It's what I do every single day.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Do you know Chris Jolly, I do.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
He was actually our president last year. Great guy.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Yeah. And then you know Diana Clark.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
And I know Diana also, she was my president I
think about four or five years.
Speaker 4 (02:13):
If you're listening, how you guys doing?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
Shout out to those guys that they're so go ahead.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Sorry to interrupt you.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
But yeah, so that's kind of my bread and butter
is housing. And you know, recently we've had a lot
of people talking about this because a lot of these
projects that have been pushed through the state are now
starting to be built here and by site, and so
we've had a lot of people from our community reach
out to us and say, hey, what's going on? How
did this happen? And so I'm glad to be able
to explain, you know, the situation of how these happen.
(02:42):
Because nobody's against housing, right, like, we all see the
need for housing in all kinds of houses.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
But you know, you get senators like Padilla Steep Idea
from San Diego, and you know, they write these these
bills and and they name them the Housing Crisis Act,
you know what I mean. And when you do a
deeper dive in look into the bills, it has nothing
to do with you know, a CRISI crisis or or
pretty much anything that you know, the topic says. It's
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you start doing a deeper dive and you go, man,
it's doing the exact opposite.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
You always have to look at the name when they
say it's the for love and puppies and great things
for everybody act. You always know there's something wrong with that.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
There's any love, there's never any puppies. No, there's that.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
It's just the opposite, you know, right, and and that
you know, if you see that, you're in tennis, should
go immediately, go.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Up, absolutely, because they very strategically name those that way,
you know, because it's a lot harder to say, no,
I'm not voting for puppy and love, you know. Like so, yeah,
they're very strategic in the way that they.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Know well and we all know that they're very strategic
in how they do it. And it's not just one bill.
It'll be like two or three or four bills that
all tie into each other and off the air, you
and I were talking about some bills that was linked together,
and one of them is s B. So if you
don't know what s B, that means Senate bill, that
means a sin. The Senate come up with a center,
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which is Padilla. So it's SB three three zero and
that's the one they call the Housing Crisis Act of
twenty nineteen, which is totally not what it is. And
I'm gonna let may Or Brett Taylor just basically explain
what it's actually doing, where the rubber meets the road,
what it's actually doing.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:21):
So so these bills, obviously, they're always tied together, you know,
like the one that I was specifically referring to was
the Housing Accountability Act, right, But they're all tied together
because a lot of times they'll take bits and pieces
and you know, tweak those previous legislation that was passed.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
And so before we go any further, let's make sure
everybody understands who they are at the office of They,
which is the Progressive Democrats up in Sacramento. That's who's
doing this.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
It's Sacramento, Sacramento is running the show. And obviously, yeah,
they have a super majority up there.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Aaron referred to as they them, Yes, exactly.
Speaker 5 (04:56):
And so we have a project that was recently a
proved And again, like nobody in VISAIA is against housing, right,
like ISAIA is very pro housing. You know, we want
our people to have children, and we don't want those
kids living with them forever. We expect them to be
able to go out and get a job and support
themselves and buy their own home and rent their own
apartments someday. But we have a project that is over
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on Ghoshen and Demory.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I know exactly where it's at.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Right, and it's it's been. It's a great part of
the town where everyone wants to live the last twenty
plus years, you know, everyone's wanting to live up on
the northwest part of town because they've done we've done
a good job of developing it up there. But we
have this this area where it was probably the worst
congestion that we have in the entire city of Isaiah.
And so we we recognize that and we went in
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and spent a lot of money fixing you know, that intersection,
widening everything, you know, getting better lights, timing everything. And
then we were looking at some of the empty land
around it, and we we downzone the land because and
not in value, right, we downzoned it in use. So
if you look on that corner, there's actually a store
facility right there, right, because it was so heavily impacted.
(06:03):
You know, we're like, realistically, what would make the most
sense putting a commercial shopping center there?
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (06:08):
And when you guys make these decisions, it's for the community.
It's for the betterment of the community because you guys,
you live there, you know what's going on.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
We get people telling us all the time, oh, you
just to prove that project because it's going to bring
X amount of dollars to the city. I will tell people,
I've never once asked or have ever seen what a
project will bring financially to the table. We look at
what's best for.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Our community, right and I believe that.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
So, you know, we downzone this project and then, you know,
because the traffic was so bad there, even though it
makes sense to have a shopping center, you know, more family,
single family homes out there, or even multi residential, right,
but we had to downzone it because the traffic was
already bad. So all of a sudden, then we started
getting a bunch of projects, and not just here we saw.
We've seen a few of them get approved, but I
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think this is the first one who's who's actually gotten
funded and started construct. So this one, what it was
was they're building I think it was between three and
four hundred units right there. And you know, with this
this new bill that passed, we can't have the same
type of parking requirements that we would on any other project.
They get a density bonus, which means they have to
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pay less impact fees than you know, everyone else. Who's
that the developer, right, And so they.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Get to I asked that question because I'm going to
kind of allude to something else once we're once you
get that.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
And so we give them bonuses that we wouldn't give
anyone else because they're building deed restricted fifty five year
low income housing. And again it's not that we're against
you know, any type of housing projects. We need all
different kinds, but they with this law that passed, they
can build it anywhere in the state of California.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
And that's these these bills that we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yeah, it's a whole slew of bills that we've gone
through a few of them right now. So some of
them are Senate Bill thirty three, Assembly Bill thirty one,
ninety four, Assembly Bill fifteen fifteen, you know, the Housing
Accountability Act. So it's just a bunch of different bills. Yeah,
and so what essentially did is it really takes away
the local control for communities because we know what's best
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were these you know, we're residential development, industrial were its
best right the state and it's infinite wisdom just passes
a law that says they can go anywhere in the
state of California on any zoning, on any parcel.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
That's because they want total control, that's why.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
And so you know, then we have all these these
residents that are living around here, and some of them,
you know, have some really nice homes, and they're like,
you know, hey, why are you putting three or four
story apartment complexes? And it's like, we have no control,
right And a matter of fact, the way the law
was written, if we were to have stopped this project,
it's a ten thousand dollars fine, and not just a
flat ten thousand dollars, it's ten thousand dollars per unit,
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So you're talking about three four million dollar fine.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And can the contractor itself like sue the city or.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
And I even had a contract I think it was
jokingly say he's like, you know, I was actually hoping
you guys would deny my project because then, you know,
you guys would end up funding a good majority of it,
you know, with with this lawsuit, and we approved the project,
so we obviously couldn't sue us. But you know, that's
the unfortunate part. It's you have a community like Visaiah,
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who is very pro housing, who supports us, and.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Yet the states, Yeah, absolutely, we have to do on everything.
Speaker 5 (09:26):
And it leads to us looking like San Francisco or
us looking like la And if we wanted that, we'd
live up there, right, we don't want that. We want
to live in Viceiah.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
So this is the way the state controls places like Vicelia.
And because it's a charter city, correct, Yeah, is a
charter so you know, really quick, explain what a charter
city is to everybody.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
So a charter city, essentially we're governed by that document, right,
So that tells us everything. So like the city of Isaiah,
it tells us how many city council members we have,
the power that we have. You know, like Isaiah City Council,
we actually only hire uh, well technically three employees, but
right now we only hire two, which is our city
manager and city attorney. We don't have the authority to
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go in there and fire or hire a police.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
Basically, what it does it kind of takes the power
away from the state to making you do things that
you don't really want to do. You want to kind
of be your own community. Yeah, it's it's our own
sovereignty like city community. However, then Sacramento does things like this.
That's their way of controlling cities such as Vicelia, Porteville,
(10:34):
Huntington Beach, and that's the way they that's the way
they do this these things.
Speaker 6 (10:38):
So is there any workaround? Is there any mechanism that
you have at your disposal to push back against this
stuff or is it just roll over and let them
do it?
Speaker 5 (10:47):
So, I mean, we always have the option, you know.
So the charter city the great things. That's not We
don't go and change things as the council. It's voted
on by the people. So if you want to make
any changes, it's the people who have to make.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
That is that is the big thing about charter city,
right or a county. A county could be a charter
county as well, right, I believe. So yeah, so it's
the people. The people's in charge of that.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
So and the people say we don't want this development
or or is it a done deal?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
It just has to happen, end of story.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Well, because because of the Senate bill, it has to
they can't. They're very limited. When when the bill passes,
that's law, you know. So the city councils, the city managers,
everybody that's dealing with anything with you know, in the
housing like that, their hands are tied.
Speaker 6 (11:36):
Right right until I watch Fox News and then I
see Huntington Beach what happened?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
So, I mean what you're seeing with cities like that
is I have the money. They're they're kind of saying, hey,
you know, we're a charter city. You're passing laws that
are that are directly interfering with the way that we
want to operate, right and they're tewn the city the
state to pound sand And you know, if you're Huntington
Beach and you have a lot of of those tax
revenues that they have, it's a lot easier to be
(12:00):
able to act that way. When you're like a community
like if I say, or Portoville or some of our
smaller local cities. The state threatens se if you don't
do this, we'll withhold you know, road funding from you,
or will withhold you know, grant funding.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And a matter of fact, they do do that right
as in our.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Grants that we apply. Part of the questions are are
you following X Y Z laws? So yeah, and if
we're not, then we wouldn't qualify for that grant if
we're not following whichever laws that they put on that questionnaire.
If we're following.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So awesome, Hey, We're going to take a break right
now and when we come back we can actually talk
to Mayor Taylor about the vision of by Sell You
the Future.
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Speaker 3 (14:54):
We have in studio by Selya City Mayor Brett Taylor.
We've been talking about some projects and some bills that
the infinite wisdom of our bureaucrats and Sacramento are pushing
on our good communities in our cities and our counties.
And right now though, we are going to discuss with
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Brett Taylor the vision of Vice Olia. I love Vice,
so you you man, it's it's a great city.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
You guys are doing great things there. Man, you guys
are really making a difference and we absolutely appreciate you
guys for doing that. So good go ahead, Mary.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
I appreciate because you know Obviously, I love Visa and
I think we've been doing a lot of things right.
So something that I think needs to be applauded is
we're building our new civic center, which is going to
have our city Hall. It's going to have our our
you know, our building for our police. Uh, it's going
to have the police storage facility for you know, all
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the evidence. And this is a project that we are
paying for one in cash. It's one hundred million dollar project,
and we've been saving for this for decades. I mean,
I think it's been forty plus years. And to get
so many council members, city managers to stay on focus of, hey,
we don't want to get in debt, that's not the
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Visia away, and we're going to keep on putting money
away and not you know, get someone who wants that
pet project and then you know, grab some funds and
you know, build a park or you know, do whatever
pet project. To see that happen, you just don't see
it anywhere else. And so we are super excited. We're
actually gonna be breaking ground on that project here in
the next few months.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Aweso.
Speaker 5 (16:36):
We just awarded the bid to Sales Construction. They're a
local contractor from Viseiah. Actually one of my neighbors you know,
works there, So it's it's great. But on top of that,
we also just hit a new benchmark where we have
a thirty percent reserve for our funding of our cities,
so we basically we know what it costs to run
(16:58):
our city. We have abot a hundred million dollars a
year budget and we have a thirty percent strategic reserve.
And to be able to do that really puts us
in a strong position because if there's another economic downturn,
you know, we have those funds to be able to
continue to serve our community in the best way possible.
So we're in a really great position. We've also because
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we've been very frugal with our citizens' money, We've you know,
we're fully staffed. We for the first time in a
long time, and a lot of us from this whole
crazy defund the police, you know movement which just devastated
small communities. Like if I say, a year ago, we
were down thirty seven police officers. Wow, that is huge.
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We're now one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
I want to talk about something, you know, Frank, he
is a construction He's a construction guy, and he owns
his own business, Frank Vanline and Construction.
Speaker 7 (17:50):
And.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
He builds a lot of eighty us. Oh yeah, I
know we have some questions about that, and he wants
to talk about that.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Well.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
I really like the ADU as a content, I truly do.
But if there's anything I think we can learn from,
it's other cities, what their failings are, what their successes are.
The San Fernando Valley, Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I'm sure you've know a little bit about that.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
In the last say thirty years, it seems like everybody's
got a garage that's been turned into an ADU. Then
the house got cut into two. Now you've got three
houses on a lot. And I've done a lot of building.
I'm originally from Los Angeles and I've worked in neighborhoods
that were all sfrs, you know, six thousand square foot lots,
and now down in a certain area, you can take
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a fifty one fifty lot, you can turn it into
five individual pieces and it's probably gone to more than
that now and literally sell them off.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
This is no longer a five plex, this is five units.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
You know, air deeds in the whole nine yards and
forever the complexion of the neighborhood is shattered.
Speaker 4 (18:56):
It's changed.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
So this was actually a bill that was sponsored by
the California Association Realtors, So we this is actually a
bill that we had lobbied for a few years ago
to get past. And it's really because the state is
not building enough housing right right, So instead of you know,
housing shouldn't be like this finite resource. Everybody should have
a home. I mean, I've heard the stories when people
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would go and buy a home on a Sears catalog
and it would be shipped on the train and you know,
the family would get together and build it.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
But now with we've the state has put so many
regulations and local municipalities have put so many regulations that
we've you know, essentially stopped building. We're short two to
three million homes, and so we're now having to kind
of get creative in these policies to allow cities to
start building. And so, you know, just like this one,
we're allowed to have you know, a junior ADU and
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then an attached ADU and then you can split a
lot into two and then build you know, two units,
and so yeah, it doesn't lead to you know, the
best policy. It was one of the things I was
afraid of, like this might work in you know, coastal communities.
Is this going to work in you know, if I
say you a no Clovis you know Portoville TOI Larry,
you know, I don't know if it's going to work.
And we've seen some pop up here in Vicelia primarily though,
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what we're seeing is it's really like on corner lots
and you know, larger lots where the backyard is not
really being used, and we're seeing someone split that off
and and build a second home back there. And so
we are definitely seeing a movement as a whole in
the state that younger people aren't wanting to mowlawans. They
don't want to take care of yards, they don't want
to play baseball in the backyard. They'll go to the
(20:30):
park if they want to play baseball. And so we
are seeing smaller and smaller lots because it used to
be normal. A six thousand score foot lot was pretty normal.
Before that, it was like a twelve thousand score foot lot,
and now we're seeing three thousand score foot lots, four
thousand score foot lots, and so but yeah, that's one
of the policies. That's really you know, starting to pick
up a little steam even by Selia. And what the
(20:51):
state required is that you know, every city approved these
by right. You know, you can't stop them. And then
so what Viseia did is we actually if you want
to go onto our way website with the city off
I say his website, we actually have pre approved plans
that that the city's paid for. That is as long
as you use this, uh you know, gets approved by right.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And so you go, you know skylab like I do.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
Then yeah, I got him on speed del close personal
friend of mine, great guy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
That he actually drew up some plans for a well.
It was originally a garage but then turned into a
shed because the city wouldn't allow a garage. But my
shed parks a nice car.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
Yeah, he's got like three is doing for me right
now and awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
He's he's a valuable resource.
Speaker 6 (21:31):
For the for the community and I love him like
a brother. Question I have for you if you were
to look at all the different cities out there that
are slightly larger than us, and one one comes to mind,
and it kind of makes me feel ill.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Stockton.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
You know, here's a place that's got a deep water
port to the ocean, it's got egg it's on the
ninety nine corridor.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
It like checks all the boxes.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
Yet the corruptions off the charts, bankruptcy.
Speaker 4 (21:57):
So I don't know what I model after them. Probably not.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
But what shity would you look to and say this
is what we should emulate.
Speaker 4 (22:03):
What attributes would you go for?
Speaker 5 (22:05):
So me, personally, I don't look at any specific city
and say this is like the perfect city. I look
at all the good things communities are doing. Like you know,
Clovis has done an amazing job of making education their focus,
and because of that, people want to move to Clovis. Actually,
you know, when my coworkers you know, lives in Clovis
(22:26):
because he values that education aspect for his children. And
so we look at all the different cities and but
we still want to make sure that we keep Bysia's heritage.
By Saia is a farming community. You know, we are
rooted deep in the farming community, and so we want
to keep that heritage. And that's why I think we've
done a really good job of continuing to focus, you know,
(22:47):
on our downtown. I had someone tell me that by sayah,
it was like a Hallmark movie because they were downtown.
There is music on the you know, over the air,
the lights were all lit up, you know, our restaurants
and bars field. They're like, we're in this little tiny
city and there's just people everywhere. And I'm like, well,
we're not so small. We're you know, one hundred and forty
seven thousand people. But I think because you know, we're
(23:09):
not looking to be another city, we're just focusing on
what we do best, you know, focusing on who we are,
that we're still able to grow. I mean, we have
one hundred and fifty thousand people and we still feel
like a small city.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
Is is there an upper limit?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
I mean, so we actually met with Congressman Fong the
other day and he'scarried the heck out of our city
manager because he was talking about where all the growth
is going to be, like the American Dreams Alive and well,
California it's just dead on the on the coast, right,
So they're coming to you know, the inland cities where
they can still afford to buy home. I mean, for
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars, you can buy a
brand new home, and by site.
Speaker 3 (23:44):
That's scary because that will change something.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, that's not even a down payment in Los Angeles.
Speaker 5 (23:49):
No, No, you couldn't even buy a lot for that,
I mean. And so what we're seeing is, you know
that the American dreams live and well, and people are
moving here from you know, other areas throughout the state
because they still want to be able to buy that house.
You know, they still want to have children that they
can raise it. You know, some people still want to
play you know, football or basketball in the backyard, and
you know, they want that sense of community. So I
(24:11):
think we're doing a good job of managing the growth
of a big city because you know, we have all
the big city issues with crime and homelessness and you know,
traffic and everything else. But yet people still say, we
love it. It feels nice. It feels like a small community.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
So what's the upper number that you would assine to
this half a million?
Speaker 5 (24:28):
Well, and that's what Congressman fun kind of scared, you know,
our city manager, because he's like, there's gonna be you know,
I forget now. But it was something like four million
people were going to be moving into you know, the
Central Valley over the next few years. Yeah, it really
scared the Leslie Kavilia because she's like, oh, craud, you know, like, yeah,
where's this going to go? Because as a city, we're
not just like, you know, grow baby, grow at all costs, right,
(24:51):
But yeah, I mean, I mean, at the end of
the day, there is no you know limit, like if
I say, it is just going to keep on growing naturally.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
And it's like it's been one of the largest capita
growing city in California right for like the last five
six years.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Yeah, if you look from twenty ten to twenty twenty
by Saya has been one of the largest small metro
or the fastest growing small metro cities in the United States.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
And so yeah, we've been focusing on it's pretty awesome.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Well, I got to say, looking at it, you know,
from my perspective and seeing what you've done so far
and seeing the trajectory of the city.
Speaker 4 (25:25):
I feel good about it. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (25:28):
I know that our prices are going to draw people in.
It's a natural and there's a reason why I will
stay here. It's you know, a guy can work at
a tire shop and still buy a house. Yeah, yeah,
try that anywhere else. Yeah, but we're lucky to have.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
You I just want to tell you thank you for
coming on and explaining to everybody you know about the
bills and what's really going on and fighting for your communities.
If I sell your community be more specific. But I
know you're a true American man and you love community,
you love family, and we really appreciate you coming on
the show.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
Thank you guys for having me us an honor and
I'm always willing to brag about by site.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Thank you, buddy. Hey, next week we're going to have
Nicole kippel Off. She is the founder of the American
Border Story and she works a lot with a whole
bunch of people out of Washington. D C Roll America
Voice with John Fulloman. So having all that said, God
bless you and God bless America.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
Thanks folks, good things, and God bless me.
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