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Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is the Jody Jones Show on Powerton ninety six
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
Good afternoon. We have in studio Sinwomen, Devin Mathis, and
my co host here, Frank Van Landingham. Devin, how are
you doing, buddy, I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Doing good, guys.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
It's good to be on It's good to be on
the other side of being a politician.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I guess I hear you. You never get to get
away from it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But yeah, hey, you know what we're going to talk
about right now. Later we're going to talk about your
new adventures, though, okay, and I want everybody out there
to know what you're doing. You know, you did a
fantastic job in Sacramento, and I'm sure you're going to
do a fantastic job in the private sector, and I
kind of want everybody to know what you're going to
do there. So that's why I'm joyed to have you
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here on my show to let everybody know that.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So, but first we're going to talk about some immigration.
What do you think about that, Devin.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, I think the president's wanting to deliver on his
campaign promises. You know, I think there's in the left,
as you're already seeing, is going to do this care
tactic stuff and try to make everybody feel really bad.
And of course, the hard fact of it is you
have to distinguish the different things. I mean, there are
people here that came here illegally, but they're working and
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they're paying taxes and they're doing everything else. And Trump's
not really talking about going after those people. Right What
he's talking about is like the MS thirteen, he's talking
about the cartels. He's talking about the guys that are
up to no gut. And what's really neat is some
of the executive orders that he signed day one allow
our local sheriffs who haven't been able to communicate with ICE,
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which is the immigration guys on the federal side, because
California has sanctuary state loss. And what these executive orders
do is now our sheriffs can call the Fed.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And business even our probation Now I'm a retired probation
officer and I know firsthand how that goes, because you know,
it was a standing order that we could not even
talk to any of the ICE agents that called us
ask us any questions about any of the illegal immigrants.
That yeah, that's gone. Now that's of a pin by
President Trust that's gone, yep. And I know a lot
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of probation officers it's just just grateful for that, you know,
because there's a lot of criminals out there that there's
just out on the street man, because and you know,
they really shouldn't be here. So I want to let
everybody know this about me. And because my brother was
murdered by an illegal immigrant. He was a criminal. He
came over twice. I you know, I was invited back
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to the State of Union by President Trump in twenty twenty,
you know, the whole nine yards. I spoke to President
Trump about this and he said exactly the same thing
you're saying, Devin, is that he wants the criminal illegal
immigrants out of the United States. All they do is
pray on everybody. They should not be here, you know.
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And he even stated that there's a lot of good
people here, you know. Yeah, they come over illegally. You know,
that has to be addressed obviously as well, because you
know that is against.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
The law as well, without a doubt. One thing that
people fail to talk about is who are the victims
of these criminal illegal aliens. And I'm allowed to say
illegal alien, I'm allowed to say criminal illegal alien. But
by and large, it's the undocumented, the illegal population that
suffers the worst at their hands because these people are
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loath to call the police for fear that they might
be deported. And so if you look in almost any
big blue city that has what I would call an
unassimilated immigrant population, and I don't care if it's Chinese, Armenian, Korean,
whatever it is, you know that have their own subculture
within our group. Those people largely handle their own business
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and it's one of the worst things possible. I come
from a mixed family first and foremost. Another thing I'll
tell you is, I remember in the eighties when I
would get a phone call at ten o'clock at night,
and this was typically February, you know, Christmas time. All
the guys would go back to Mexico and they put
gold rings, chains, they take home, microwaves VCRs. Back then,
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that was the technology of the day. They'd all go
home for Christmas. They'd be gone for a month, sometimes more.
Beginning of f February phone rings, you know, oh ye Panchua.
The're basically saying, hey, man, I just got back. Do
you have three hundred dollars I can borrow? And I'd
loan a guy three hundred bucks. He was literally captive
by a smuggling organization that would drop this guy off
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someplace in the middle of the night in a crappy,
old white Chevy van. They would not let him out
of the van. He was their hostage until he came
up with this amount of money. This is crazy. But again,
now fast forward twenty twenty five, that cost is now
ten thousand dollars. Right now, I'm not going to blame
that on Trump and global warming at COVID. What I'm
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going to tell you is this has become infinitely more lucrative.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Absolutely man made though by this, without a doubt previous administration,
by the Biden administration. It just they actually they blew
everything up.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Oh it's huge. But whenever something is sort of legal
but sort of not legal but sort of legal, you
create that squishy gray area where all of this happens.
And again to your point, I don't believe for a
minute that Trump expects to get the whole enchilada. He's
classic Trump. He's going to ask for the stars, the moon,
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all of it. And what's he going to get in return?
He'll probably get a conversation and probably our positions should
improve on this. And you know, we've got a billion
talking points sitting right in.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Front of us, Jody.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
But long story short, the weeds have gotten too long,
and we have let this go way too far. There's
a backlash, and we're not calling for mass deportations in
so far as throw everybody out that doesn't have blonde
hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, you go ahead, Devin.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
That's a huge important point though, and I think over
the next four years The biggest thing for everyone, and
especially those in media and those that are dealing with
media relations, public relations, everything else, is to keep the
focus on This is't about the people that are here
trying to live good life in our law abiding right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's about those who aren't.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
And so what we're already seeing across the media plane, though,
is they're trying to be like, well, after Trump gets
rid of these, you know, two million people that are bad,
then he's gonna come for Grandma. And it's like, no, that, guys,
Let's focus on here and now here and now the
tasket hand, what they're actually doing, and stop trying to
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make the conversation about this this made up boogeyman that's
not really gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Sure, don't clean the toilet because you might scrub the
porcelain off, you know, Let's leave it dirty. It's just
stupid argument to say, let's do nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Everything's optics with the Democratic Party, especially when you know,
especially with like Devin or Gavin Newsom, so you know,
he wants to call it a special session, a Trump
proof California, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
in my life, especially when you have southern California burning
down to the ground. He wants to have, you know,
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a special session on what to do about Trump coming
in and want to remove criminals off our streets because
that's exactly what he's doing. This is why Governor Newsom
is the worst governor in history of California. And I'm
so glad this is his last term. However, we have
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to put some good candidates out there to you know,
replace him. We have to. But you know what I
love the you know what I love about right now
about Trump and he's unifying the party. He's unifying the
Republican Party. And you see that everywhere you see, you know,
because we all know how Republicans are. You know, they
they're like a bunch of loan wolfs. And and that's
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why you see, like when you when you see some
voting on the bills and you see Democrats, you know,
zero and two hundred and fourteen, you see Republicans one
hundred and sixty three and twenty three. That's why we
need to bring everything, everybody together, and the Republicans have
to realize that they're not going to get everything they want.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Every time you saw the opposite of that, though, this
last bill this first bill that I moved through the Senate,
you actually saw a Democrat grossover because even the Democrats
in these other states, they're Democrat senators. For those that don't,
I mean, this is a senator. So you have two
senators in every state across the country. These guys crossed
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over and they said, you know what, in our states,
we want to get rid of the criminals too. We
might be a Democrat majority state, but we want to
get rid of the criminals too. And that's important to
see that shift, that pendulum swinging back to common sense.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right, And that's what I believe Trump is really doing.
He's bringing the common sense back to politics and everything
you can possibly think of.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Haven it makes sense, yes, have it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But this is a tug of war.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
You know. In a tug of war, I'm pulling your pulling.
I'm not pulling towards the middle. I'm pulling towards my side.
Hopefully we wind up at the middle. And then again
this is classic Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You know, and what he does he brings the gas
lighting up, you know, he puts out the spots lighted,
you know, and it's like these people are gaslighting. That's why,
like the normal person. You know, when the Democrats speak
or when they try to get a build a cross,
you're like, are you kidding me? And then they gaslight you.
They lied to you. That's what gaslighting is. They absolutely
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lie to you. And and they you know, they say,
don't believe you know what your your eyes see. That's
basically what they're saying. And it's like people's tired of it,
sick of it, and it's it's really showing, not in
just the voting, you know, the popular vote, we won
the House, the Senate. It's showing there, but it's also
showing other stuff. Like you just said, you're seeing people
move across over now because the common sense is coming.
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You know, it's showing and people sick and tired of
the gas lighting, the line and really the media everybody.
That's why CNN, MSNBC, that's why they're tanking. They're absolutely
tanking in the ratings. And it's a fact. You know,
they don't want to report it, obviously, but it's out
there for everybody to see if you just look and
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you do your own research.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
What we've seen over the last decade, last couple of
decades is Democrats have won the emotional argument. Right in
this last election, they were trying to win the emotional argument,
but the problem was is their policies have gotten so bad.
The emotional facts are affordability.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You know, you heard it.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
All election cycle. It's the economy, stupid, and it's like, dude,
it really is. If I can't, I don't care who
you are. If a mom who's a single mom can't
afford to take care of her kids, it's the economy.
If you're a you know, everybody's like, oh, he won
the Latino population.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
If I'm ochismo and I can't afford to be a
man and go do my thing, I'm not a man.
My self worth and it doesn't matter if it's mochismo
or if it's mom, or who it is, or what
color of your skin is. If you can't take care
of yourself and your family, your self worth is destroyed.
And that's what bidonomics did, right, was it destroyed people's
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self worth. And what Trump's saying is, hey, we're gonna
make you have value again, and you're gonna be able
to do whatever you want to do right as long
as it's legal, and you're we're going to give that
back to you.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, Devin, I like, well you what you said
about that? And you know, Frank said it really good
to it and Kee he says it all the time,
and I love it about It's it's it's a good
advertisement with a bad product. You're advertising a bad product,
but you do it in a good way, you know
what I mean. And that's what they're that's what they
do very well. They advertise a bad product, but they
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do it great.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
And their sign says thirty eight billion served.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
We have Devin Mathis Assemblyman here and he's going to explain, uh,
why he didn't run for his last term and why
he wanted to to kind of go into the private
sector and a new adventure. Devin, go ahead, man, you
got it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Joey yahm and thanks for having me on. It's you're right.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
A lot of people are like, dude, why you know
you could have done one more term?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
How come you left?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
How can you let go of the power? And it's like,
you know, my son's in studio with us.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And he's checking out. He just graduated high school junior.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
How you doing over their buddy, and it's you.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I spent twelve years in the military, two combat tours,
everything else, got injured, came home, went to college, got
involved politically because I was like, what the hell happened
when I was gone? We got to fix this. And
then they just spent the last ten years in Sacramento.
And what people don't realize, we forget this, but when
California decided to get rid of Willie Brown and create
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term limits, they also threw out retirement packages. They threw
out this stuff, and I get it. Yeah, career politicians
were the devil. But think about it. Your average you know,
you're making one hundred and twenty thousand a year. Half
of that's gone to tacks is the other half of
it's gone to an ex wife? Fat right, But it's
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when you look at it, what does two more years
do for the family? And you know, I love my constituents,
I love my community. And everybody's like, well, oh, you're
you're gonna cash in on doing this public relations firm.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And it's like.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, because I ain't none wrong with that. But but
I could go anywhere. I could go anywhere in the country.
I could do anything. I've got a master's from George Washington.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I could do that.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
But I'm staying home. I'm staying here in the valley
because one we live in a globalized economy. You know,
people are like, oh, you're going to base your business
out of Portaville, and it's like, yeah, dude, because all
I got to do is have Wi Fi. And now
I'm in a boardroom with anybody. I was on a
call on the road with guys working on a power
plant project power and water out of Idaho that could
actually benefit California with green energy and all the other
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you know, all these other things we talked about. But
I'm literally doing that for my phone while I'm driving
up to Fresno in the studio with you guys, because
that's how we live. And I mean, if COVID taught
us anything, It's like, I mean, how many of us
know the business mullet where you're like chilling with a
pair of PJ pants, but you've got the suit and
tie on up top.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, hey, Devin, what are you doing?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
So as with public relations, my firm is looking at
we can do the public relations side, whether you're a business, government, whatever,
it's knowing how to talk to the public, knowing how
to build the public trust, work with the public, the
things that you need to do on that front. But
we can also do the government relations side, where it's hey,
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this policy is going on, or maybe it's a city thing,
maybe it's a county thing, maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
State, maybe it's federal.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
How do you build out the programs that are going on?
How do you deal with legislation that's coming down the pike.
And it's there's so much to all of it, so
many little pieces that a lot of folks don't understand.
For me, it's like, Okay, I can draw this on
the back of a napkin, but it's like I want
to be able to help people here in the valley
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understand how these things work. I want to still be
that resource that I was, as you're all assimbly member,
because people just don't know what they don't know, and
I want to be able to help. I want to
be able to help see the valley grow. I want
to be able to help see things benefit us. I
want to help see our businesses grow. I want to
help see our cities and our counties do well. But
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I also want to be able to work with the
public still, because it's important that the public trust what
is happening and what's going on. And you know, i'd
like to think my last ten years, you know, the
public trusted me a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I mean, we want elections very big. We did these things.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I even got drawn into a what a Right's action
seed and it's like we want that very big too.
And so being able to talk with the public and
have that trust where whether you're doing business and you're
trying to grow your business and you're like, well, I
got to work with these government guys, but I got
to work with the people, and all this stuff is
going on. I just want to be seen as a
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resource for everyone, whether you're a business or government, to
get things done. And I think I've got the experience
of doing that.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I think it's good personally, and I understand on your
side of the equation there will be detractors from both extremes.
One is going to say, you know, well, now you're
cashing in. You'd only went into it for the money.
That's one group and they're on one side. The other
side is going to say, will he ever retire? Is
he going to be there forever? We got a guy
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his last name, let's say, remind you reminds me of
the word pasta, and he's been there forever. Another would say,
are you ever going to leave? And so somewhere, I
believe our founding fathers envisioned where you would go to
the capitol, be at Washington, be it Sacramento. You'd do
your bit and then you'd come back to the farm,
and then you'd live under those laws that you put
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upon us. And so the fact that you've acquired a
little bit of business and political acumen makes you more powerful,
makes you something that people should come to and say,
tell me, Devin, what can I do here? What can
I do there? I think it's a wonderful thing and
we wish you nothing but success. And now my question,
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are you going to be doing any lobbying? What's the
difference between say, a lobbyist and a PR firm. Are
they not synonymous? What's the difference.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, it's you're splitting hairs, okay, And so a lobbyist
is somebody who deals directly with the legislator. Okay, So
that's the one on time that they're walking into the
office in Sacramento or DC and they're making the direct ask.
So lobbyist represents a company named, any company or they
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represent even a city has lobbyists. Counties have lobbyists and
they walk in and they're making the direct ass on
a policy. They also deal with campaign contributions and that
sort of stuff. So California's laws you're barred from lobbying
for a year.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
But for me, what I always.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Enjoy being a military guy. Right Like I led missions
in Iraq, I did mission planning. I did like I
love strategizing and planning. I probably drive everybody around me
nuts because I'm like, dude, let's draw this out, let's
do these things. Because my brain is still wired from
the military, I just put it all together. I mean,
that's why I was the Assembly Republican whip. That's why
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I was the chair of Operations for the whole caucus
because my brain is wired that way. And I spent
ten years of lobbyists and everybody coming into my office
and they're going, oh, we're trying to kill this bill
or we're trying to get this past and I'm going, oh, well,
did you talk to so and so and did you
talk to them about this?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Did you leverage this? This is important to them. That's
really what it was.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
What program are you doing, you know, back home in
their district to make them want to do that? So,
Jody your question, what does the whip do?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah? Being whip was fun.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I'll tell you that's probably the funnest political job you
can have, because the whip's job is you're not just
counting votes. Because when you're counting votes, what the determining
factor is people will always vote what is in their
own best self interest. So what's good for say, I
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don't know, I like to pick on Alex Lee. I've
gotten to know him over the years, but you know,
he's the guy that tweets out you know, Oh, everybody
needs to live in their green government homework, their green
government jobs, and their kids green government schools.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It's it's green socialism.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And in his district, that's the norm that they vote
this guy in big margins. And so you have to
understand and take a step back and understand everybody's district,
everybody's backyard is different and their social.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Norms are different. That's why made correct.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
And but being the whip, I've got to look at
how do I make the thing that I want to
get done and somebody like Alex at least best interest.
How do I get him to want to support something
that would support the valley. How do I get him
in his constituents, and how do I put leverage on him?
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So when I go to him and I'm counting my votes,
I know I have his vote. And so what I
get to do now with my firm is I don't
have to be the lobbyist to go in and make
the direct acts with him, but I can work with
the team to collaborate all the different businesses everybody else
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and work on that strategy team and go, well, let's
look at the demographics and Alex's district, let's look at
the things that are important there, and let's look at
the different levers we can turn to put leverage on
him to make it in his best self interest.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Is there anything at all like that TV show House
of Cards?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
House of Cards?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You know, people used to ask me and they're like, hey,
you know, what what's politics like? And I'd be like, ah,
it's a mix between you know, Game of Thrones, House
of Cards.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You know, yeah, there's dragon ladies.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
You know, you just kind of joke about it, and
it's you know, you get into the machiavellian stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
You get in all of this stuff. But it it is.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But the reality of it is, in modern day politics,
you can't kill your enemies. You have to learn how
to work with them. Because prime example, Senator Scout Wiener,
Senator Scout Wiener big on transgender issues, all those things
I cannot stand. But when it comes to seql, when
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it comes to water, when it comes to doing all
these things, when it comes to people mean more than fish,
He's actually an ally. So it's how do you do
the business sense of I'm going to work against you
on here, I'm going to have a business relationship with you,
and we're gonna know and we're going to have that
professionalism to know there are some topics we're going to
fight each other on, and there's some topics we're gonna
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work hand in hand and best friends on. And that's
a professionalism level that we need in frankly, every politician,
every political figure has to know how to be practical
and to do that. But you also need that from
a public relations government relations standpoint of how do I
work with a scout wiener on a value issue to
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make it important to him where he'll help us, but
also not be jaded and hate us because we.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Don't like him on another issue. Right?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You know that's thanks Devin for explaining all that, man,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
So.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So if somebody want to contact your firm, how would
they do that?
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's asthmuth dot com. Okay with my firm.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
It's like, hey guys, let's work together, let's have fun
and let's do this, let's build this out, let's strategize,
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Good afternoon. We have in studio Sinwomen, Devin Mathis, and
my co host here, Frank Van Landingham. Devin, how are
you doing, buddy, I'm.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Doing good, guys.
Speaker 5 (00:55):
It's good to be on It's good to be on
the other side of being a politician.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
I guess I hear you. You never get to get
away from it.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
But yeah, hey, you know what we're going to talk
about right now. Later we're going to talk about your
new adventures, though, okay, and I want everybody out there
to know what you're doing. You know, you did a
fantastic job in Sacramento, and I'm sure you're going to
do a fantastic job in the private sector, and I
kind of want everybody to know what you're going to
do there. So that's why I'm joyed to have you
(01:24):
here on my show to let everybody know that.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Man.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
So, but first we're going to talk about some immigration.
What do you think about that, Devin.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
Well, I think the president's wanting to deliver on his
campaign promises. You know, I think there's in the left,
as you're already seeing, is going to do this care
tactic stuff and try to make everybody feel really bad.
And of course, the hard fact of it is you
have to distinguish the different things. I mean, there are
people here that came here illegally, but they're working and
(01:54):
they're paying taxes and they're doing everything else. And Trump's
not really talking about going after those people. Right What
he's talking about is like the MS thirteen, he's talking
about the cartels. He's talking about the guys that are
up to no gut. And what's really neat is some
of the executive orders that he signed day one allow
our local sheriffs who haven't been able to communicate with ICE,
(02:17):
which is the immigration guys on the federal side, because
California has sanctuary state loss. And what these executive orders
do is now our sheriffs can call the Fed.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
And business even our probation Now I'm a retired probation
officer and I know firsthand how that goes, because you know,
it was a standing order that we could not even
talk to any of the ICE agents that called us
ask us any questions about any of the illegal immigrants.
That yeah, that's gone. Now that's of a pin by
President Trust that's gone, yep. And I know a lot
(02:52):
of probation officers it's just just grateful for that, you know,
because there's a lot of criminals out there that there's
just out on the street man, because and you know,
they really shouldn't be here. So I want to let
everybody know this about me. And because my brother was
murdered by an illegal immigrant. He was a criminal. He
came over twice. I you know, I was invited back
(03:14):
to the State of Union by President Trump in twenty twenty,
you know, the whole nine yards. I spoke to President
Trump about this and he said exactly the same thing
you're saying, Devin, is that he wants the criminal illegal
immigrants out of the United States. All they do is
pray on everybody. They should not be here, you know.
(03:34):
And he even stated that there's a lot of good
people here, you know. Yeah, they come over illegally. You know,
that has to be addressed obviously as well, because you
know that is against.
Speaker 6 (03:46):
The law as well, without a doubt. One thing that
people fail to talk about is who are the victims
of these criminal illegal aliens. And I'm allowed to say
illegal alien, I'm allowed to say criminal illegal alien. But
by and large, it's the undocumented, the illegal population that
suffers the worst at their hands because these people are
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loath to call the police for fear that they might
be deported. And so if you look in almost any
big blue city that has what I would call an
unassimilated immigrant population, and I don't care if it's Chinese, Armenian, Korean,
whatever it is, you know that have their own subculture
within our group. Those people largely handle their own business
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and it's one of the worst things possible. I come
from a mixed family first and foremost. Another thing I'll
tell you is, I remember in the eighties when I
would get a phone call at ten o'clock at night,
and this was typically February, you know, Christmas time. All
the guys would go back to Mexico and they put
gold rings, chains, they take home, microwaves VCRs. Back then,
(04:53):
that was the technology of the day. They'd all go
home for Christmas. They'd be gone for a month, sometimes more.
Beginning of f February phone rings, you know, oh ye Panchua.
The're basically saying, hey, man, I just got back. Do
you have three hundred dollars I can borrow? And I'd
loan a guy three hundred bucks. He was literally captive
by a smuggling organization that would drop this guy off
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someplace in the middle of the night in a crappy,
old white Chevy van. They would not let him out
of the van. He was their hostage until he came
up with this amount of money. This is crazy. But again,
now fast forward twenty twenty five, that cost is now
ten thousand dollars. Right now, I'm not going to blame
that on Trump and global warming at COVID. What I'm
(05:36):
going to tell you is this has become infinitely more lucrative.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Absolutely man made though by this, without a doubt previous administration,
by the Biden administration. It just they actually they blew
everything up.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Oh it's huge. But whenever something is sort of legal
but sort of not legal but sort of legal, you
create that squishy gray area where all of this happens.
And again to your point, I don't believe for a
minute that Trump expects to get the whole enchilada. He's
classic Trump. He's going to ask for the stars, the moon,
(06:10):
all of it. And what's he going to get in return?
He'll probably get a conversation and probably our positions should
improve on this. And you know, we've got a billion
talking points sitting right in.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Front of us, Jody.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
But long story short, the weeds have gotten too long,
and we have let this go way too far. There's
a backlash, and we're not calling for mass deportations in
so far as throw everybody out that doesn't have blonde
hair and blue eyes.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, you go ahead, Devin.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
That's a huge important point though, and I think over
the next four years The biggest thing for everyone, and
especially those in media and those that are dealing with
media relations, public relations, everything else, is to keep the
focus on This is't about the people that are here
trying to live good life in our law abiding right.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
It's about those who aren't.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
And so what we're already seeing across the media plane, though,
is they're trying to be like, well, after Trump gets
rid of these, you know, two million people that are bad,
then he's gonna come for Grandma. And it's like, no, that, guys,
Let's focus on here and now here and now the
tasket hand, what they're actually doing, and stop trying to
(07:26):
make the conversation about this this made up boogeyman that's
not really gonna happen.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
Sure, don't clean the toilet because you might scrub the
porcelain off, you know, Let's leave it dirty. It's just
stupid argument to say, let's do nothing.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Everything's optics with the Democratic Party, especially when you know,
especially with like Devin or Gavin Newsom, so you know,
he wants to call it a special session, a Trump
proof California, which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard
in my life, especially when you have southern California burning
down to the ground. He wants to have, you know,
(07:58):
a special session on what to do about Trump coming
in and want to remove criminals off our streets because
that's exactly what he's doing. This is why Governor Newsom
is the worst governor in history of California. And I'm
so glad this is his last term. However, we have
(08:20):
to put some good candidates out there to you know,
replace him. We have to. But you know what I
love the you know what I love about right now
about Trump and he's unifying the party. He's unifying the
Republican Party. And you see that everywhere you see, you know,
because we all know how Republicans are. You know, they
they're like a bunch of loan wolfs. And and that's
(08:43):
why you see, like when you when you see some
voting on the bills and you see Democrats, you know,
zero and two hundred and fourteen, you see Republicans one
hundred and sixty three and twenty three. That's why we
need to bring everything, everybody together, and the Republicans have
to realize that they're not going to get everything they want.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
Every time you saw the opposite of that, though, this
last bill this first bill that I moved through the Senate,
you actually saw a Democrat grossover because even the Democrats
in these other states, they're Democrat senators. For those that don't,
I mean, this is a senator. So you have two
senators in every state across the country. These guys crossed
(09:22):
over and they said, you know what, in our states,
we want to get rid of the criminals too. We
might be a Democrat majority state, but we want to
get rid of the criminals too. And that's important to
see that shift, that pendulum swinging back to common sense.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Right, And that's what I believe Trump is really doing.
He's bringing the common sense back to politics and everything
you can possibly think of.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
Haven it makes sense, yes, have it makes sense.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
But this is a tug of war.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
You know. In a tug of war, I'm pulling your pulling.
I'm not pulling towards the middle. I'm pulling towards my side.
Hopefully we wind up at the middle. And then again
this is classic Trump.
Speaker 3 (09:59):
You know, and what he does he brings the gas
lighting up, you know, he puts out the spots lighted,
you know, and it's like these people are gaslighting. That's why,
like the normal person. You know, when the Democrats speak
or when they try to get a build a cross,
you're like, are you kidding me? And then they gaslight you.
They lied to you. That's what gaslighting is. They absolutely
(10:21):
lie to you. And and they you know, they say,
don't believe you know what your your eyes see. That's
basically what they're saying. And it's like people's tired of it,
sick of it, and it's it's really showing, not in
just the voting, you know, the popular vote, we won
the House, the Senate. It's showing there, but it's also
showing other stuff. Like you just said, you're seeing people
move across over now because the common sense is coming.
(10:45):
You know, it's showing and people sick and tired of
the gas lighting, the line and really the media everybody.
That's why CNN, MSNBC, that's why they're tanking. They're absolutely
tanking in the ratings. And it's a fact. You know,
they don't want to report it, obviously, but it's out
there for everybody to see if you just look and
(11:07):
you do your own research.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
What we've seen over the last decade, last couple of
decades is Democrats have won the emotional argument. Right in
this last election, they were trying to win the emotional argument,
but the problem was is their policies have gotten so bad.
The emotional facts are affordability.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
You know, you heard it.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
All election cycle. It's the economy, stupid, and it's like, dude,
it really is. If I can't, I don't care who
you are. If a mom who's a single mom can't
afford to take care of her kids, it's the economy.
If you're a you know, everybody's like, oh, he won
the Latino population.
Speaker 6 (11:48):
Dude.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
If I'm ochismo and I can't afford to be a
man and go do my thing, I'm not a man.
My self worth and it doesn't matter if it's mochismo
or if it's mom, or who it is, or what
color of your skin is. If you can't take care
of yourself and your family, your self worth is destroyed.
And that's what bidonomics did, right, was it destroyed people's
(12:11):
self worth. And what Trump's saying is, hey, we're gonna
make you have value again, and you're gonna be able
to do whatever you want to do right as long
as it's legal, and you're we're going to give that
back to you.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
You know, Devin, I like, well you what you said
about that? And you know, Frank said it really good
to it and Kee he says it all the time,
and I love it about It's it's it's a good
advertisement with a bad product. You're advertising a bad product,
but you do it in a good way, you know
what I mean. And that's what they're that's what they
do very well. They advertise a bad product, but they
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do it great.
Speaker 6 (12:50):
And their sign says thirty eight billion served.
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Speaker 3 (14:36):
We have Devin Mathis Assemblyman here and he's going to explain, uh,
why he didn't run for his last term and why
he wanted to to kind of go into the private
sector and a new adventure. Devin, go ahead, man, you
got it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
Joey yahm and thanks for having me on. It's you're right.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
A lot of people are like, dude, why you know
you could have done one more term?
Speaker 4 (14:57):
How come you left?
Speaker 5 (14:58):
How can you let go of the power? And it's like,
you know, my son's in studio with us.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
And he's checking out. He just graduated high school junior.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
How you doing over their buddy, and it's you.
Speaker 5 (15:12):
I spent twelve years in the military, two combat tours,
everything else, got injured, came home, went to college, got
involved politically because I was like, what the hell happened
when I was gone? We got to fix this. And
then they just spent the last ten years in Sacramento.
And what people don't realize, we forget this, but when
California decided to get rid of Willie Brown and create
(15:35):
term limits, they also threw out retirement packages. They threw
out this stuff, and I get it. Yeah, career politicians
were the devil. But think about it. Your average you know,
you're making one hundred and twenty thousand a year. Half
of that's gone to tacks is the other half of
it's gone to an ex wife? Fat right, But it's
(16:00):
when you look at it, what does two more years
do for the family? And you know, I love my constituents,
I love my community. And everybody's like, well, oh, you're
you're gonna cash in on doing this public relations firm.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
And it's like.
Speaker 5 (16:11):
Yeah, because I ain't none wrong with that. But but
I could go anywhere. I could go anywhere in the country.
I could do anything. I've got a master's from George Washington.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
I could do that.
Speaker 5 (16:22):
But I'm staying home. I'm staying here in the valley
because one we live in a globalized economy. You know,
people are like, oh, you're going to base your business
out of Portaville, and it's like, yeah, dude, because all
I got to do is have Wi Fi. And now
I'm in a boardroom with anybody. I was on a
call on the road with guys working on a power
plant project power and water out of Idaho that could
actually benefit California with green energy and all the other
(16:44):
you know, all these other things we talked about. But
I'm literally doing that for my phone while I'm driving
up to Fresno in the studio with you guys, because
that's how we live. And I mean, if COVID taught
us anything, It's like, I mean, how many of us
know the business mullet where you're like chilling with a
pair of PJ pants, but you've got the suit and
tie on up top.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Well, hey, Devin, what are you doing?
Speaker 5 (17:05):
So as with public relations, my firm is looking at
we can do the public relations side, whether you're a business, government, whatever,
it's knowing how to talk to the public, knowing how
to build the public trust, work with the public, the
things that you need to do on that front. But
we can also do the government relations side, where it's hey,
(17:27):
this policy is going on, or maybe it's a city thing,
maybe it's a county thing, maybe it's.
Speaker 4 (17:30):
State, maybe it's federal.
Speaker 5 (17:33):
How do you build out the programs that are going on?
How do you deal with legislation that's coming down the pike.
And it's there's so much to all of it, so
many little pieces that a lot of folks don't understand.
For me, it's like, Okay, I can draw this on
the back of a napkin, but it's like I want
to be able to help people here in the valley
(17:54):
understand how these things work. I want to still be
that resource that I was, as you're all assimbly member,
because people just don't know what they don't know, and
I want to be able to help. I want to
be able to help see the valley grow. I want
to be able to help see things benefit us. I
want to help see our businesses grow. I want to
help see our cities and our counties do well. But
(18:16):
I also want to be able to work with the
public still, because it's important that the public trust what
is happening and what's going on. And you know, i'd
like to think my last ten years, you know, the
public trusted me a lot.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
I mean, we want elections very big. We did these things.
Speaker 5 (18:32):
I even got drawn into a what a Right's action
seed and it's like we want that very big too.
And so being able to talk with the public and
have that trust where whether you're doing business and you're
trying to grow your business and you're like, well, I
got to work with these government guys, but I got
to work with the people, and all this stuff is
going on. I just want to be seen as a
(18:53):
resource for everyone, whether you're a business or government, to
get things done. And I think I've got the experience
of doing that.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
I think it's good personally, and I understand on your
side of the equation there will be detractors from both extremes.
One is going to say, you know, well, now you're
cashing in. You'd only went into it for the money.
That's one group and they're on one side. The other
side is going to say, will he ever retire? Is
he going to be there forever? We got a guy
(19:26):
his last name, let's say, remind you reminds me of
the word pasta, and he's been there forever. Another would say,
are you ever going to leave? And so somewhere, I
believe our founding fathers envisioned where you would go to
the capitol, be at Washington, be it Sacramento. You'd do
your bit and then you'd come back to the farm,
and then you'd live under those laws that you put
(19:49):
upon us. And so the fact that you've acquired a
little bit of business and political acumen makes you more powerful,
makes you something that people should come to and say,
tell me, Devin, what can I do here? What can
I do there? I think it's a wonderful thing and
we wish you nothing but success. And now my question,
(20:10):
are you going to be doing any lobbying? What's the
difference between say, a lobbyist and a PR firm. Are
they not synonymous? What's the difference.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
Well, it's you're splitting hairs, okay, And so a lobbyist
is somebody who deals directly with the legislator. Okay, So
that's the one on time that they're walking into the
office in Sacramento or DC and they're making the direct ask.
So lobbyist represents a company named, any company or they
(20:41):
represent even a city has lobbyists. Counties have lobbyists and
they walk in and they're making the direct ass on
a policy. They also deal with campaign contributions and that
sort of stuff. So California's laws you're barred from lobbying
for a year.
Speaker 4 (20:58):
But for me, what I always.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Enjoy being a military guy. Right Like I led missions
in Iraq, I did mission planning. I did like I
love strategizing and planning. I probably drive everybody around me
nuts because I'm like, dude, let's draw this out, let's
do these things. Because my brain is still wired from
the military, I just put it all together. I mean,
that's why I was the Assembly Republican whip. That's why
(21:20):
I was the chair of Operations for the whole caucus
because my brain is wired that way. And I spent
ten years of lobbyists and everybody coming into my office
and they're going, oh, we're trying to kill this bill
or we're trying to get this past and I'm going, oh, well,
did you talk to so and so and did you
talk to them about this?
Speaker 4 (21:37):
Did you leverage this? This is important to them. That's
really what it was.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
What program are you doing, you know, back home in
their district to make them want to do that? So,
Jody your question, what does the whip do?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah? Being whip was fun.
Speaker 5 (21:50):
I'll tell you that's probably the funnest political job you
can have, because the whip's job is you're not just
counting votes. Because when you're counting votes, what the determining
factor is people will always vote what is in their
own best self interest. So what's good for say, I
(22:12):
don't know, I like to pick on Alex Lee. I've
gotten to know him over the years, but you know,
he's the guy that tweets out you know, Oh, everybody
needs to live in their green government homework, their green
government jobs, and their kids green government schools.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
It's it's green socialism.
Speaker 5 (22:23):
And in his district, that's the norm that they vote
this guy in big margins. And so you have to
understand and take a step back and understand everybody's district,
everybody's backyard is different and their social.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Norms are different. That's why made correct.
Speaker 5 (22:44):
And but being the whip, I've got to look at
how do I make the thing that I want to
get done and somebody like Alex at least best interest.
How do I get him to want to support something
that would support the valley. How do I get him
in his constituents, and how do I put leverage on him?
(23:05):
So when I go to him and I'm counting my votes,
I know I have his vote. And so what I
get to do now with my firm is I don't
have to be the lobbyist to go in and make
the direct acts with him, but I can work with
the team to collaborate all the different businesses everybody else
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and work on that strategy team and go, well, let's
look at the demographics and Alex's district, let's look at
the things that are important there, and let's look at
the different levers we can turn to put leverage on
him to make it in his best self interest.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
Is there anything at all like that TV show House
of Cards?
Speaker 4 (23:47):
House of Cards?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
You know, people used to ask me and they're like, hey,
you know, what what's politics like? And I'd be like, ah,
it's a mix between you know, Game of Thrones, House
of Cards.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
You know, yeah, there's dragon ladies.
Speaker 5 (23:59):
You know, you just kind of joke about it, and
it's you know, you get into the machiavellian stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
You get in all of this stuff. But it it is.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
But the reality of it is, in modern day politics,
you can't kill your enemies. You have to learn how
to work with them. Because prime example, Senator Scout Wiener,
Senator Scout Wiener big on transgender issues, all those things
I cannot stand. But when it comes to seql, when
(24:27):
it comes to water, when it comes to doing all
these things, when it comes to people mean more than fish,
He's actually an ally. So it's how do you do
the business sense of I'm going to work against you
on here, I'm going to have a business relationship with you,
and we're gonna know and we're going to have that
professionalism to know there are some topics we're going to
fight each other on, and there's some topics we're gonna
(24:48):
work hand in hand and best friends on. And that's
a professionalism level that we need in frankly, every politician,
every political figure has to know how to be practical
and to do that. But you also need that from
a public relations government relations standpoint of how do I
work with a scout wiener on a value issue to
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make it important to him where he'll help us, but
also not be jaded and hate us because we.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
Don't like him on another issue. Right?
Speaker 3 (25:18):
You know that's thanks Devin for explaining all that, man,
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
So.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
So if somebody want to contact your firm, how would
they do that?
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It's asthmuth dot com. Okay with my firm.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
It's like, hey guys, let's work together, let's have fun
and let's do this, let's build this out, let's strategize,
and let's develop the plan. And I want to do that.
I want to help you get to where you want
to go. I want to help you achieve your goals
and I you know, and even to strategize and go
where are your weak points, where are the things that
you're missing, Where are the holes in your plan? And
(25:51):
build that out with with you so we can do
that so we can make your business better, which makes
the value better, which makes life here at home better
for all.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Thanks for explaining that, buddy, Thank you for coming on
and from everybody at the Jody Jones Show, man, we
love you. Thank you for what you did, what you're
doing now.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Thank you for your service to you either way.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Absolutely so Hey. Having all that said, until next week,
God bless you and God bless America.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Good things and God blessed function. Amen, Thank you guysome.
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