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Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is the Jody Jones Show on Powertong ninety six
seven and Hey, I'm fourteen hundred.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I am Jody Jones and my co host is in
studio with me, Frank ban Leinningham.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Hey guys, how you doing?
Speaker 3 (00:51):
And we have our guests back again, Pastor John Dunn
from Legacy Church and by Celia.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, thanks for having me back. It's been a minute, it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Has uh, it's it's nice to have you back, buddy.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We have a good show for you today, we're gonna
talk about, uh, just the time of the year. We
got a whole bunch of stuff on schedule right now
I kind of want to discuss. We're just gonna touch
on some immigration stuff because it's very important.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Next month is gonna get really crazy for America, and
we have to realize that what's going on. And when
I say that, I mean realize that everything's gonna be okay.
And remember they're not good. They're going after the criminals.
And and you hear California when they're when these these
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crazies are talking about, you know, the the city councils
and and the mayors, they're just saying how they're just
going to resist and fight Trump. And they're really not
fighting the resistian Trump. What they're doing is they're destroying
their communities because they're really going after the criminals in
the illegal immigrant community. That's who they're going after. They
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want to go to the jails and remove these people.
They don't really want to go out in the communities
and get these people. They want to be able to
just go to the jails and pick them up when
they get arrested. I love what Homan said. I love
homean saying, look, get out of our way, work with us,
and we won't have to go to your communities. We
could pick them right up from jail and we can
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get rid of them. And that's what we need to do.
And he's actually said he's going to prosecute elected officials
if they get in the way, because it is against
the law. It is absolutely against the United States law
to what harbor a felon, right, because really that's what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
We are conflating many different issues, one of which is
we have people in this country who came in not
through the door. This is one issue. And some of
them are very fine people who are working hard and
simply have a good vision. Others are and so I
think it does a disk service to all the and
pardon me, folks, all the good people who came here
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the wrong way simply to make a better life, to
all of a sudden put them in the same bucket
as the trendeerawa, as the MS thirteen, as the predator types.
And so those people deserve better than to be compared
to the worst. And you got to remember, these people
pray mostly on those communities they're not coming into Beverly
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Hills and doing that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
They're doing it in the lower end.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
And when I see Eric Adams now reaching out to
Tom Homan for a meeting.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
This is very telling.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
This is a guy who was on that left saying
we're going to resist, We're going to be a sanctuary
city San Diego. You've got basically the county supervisors telling
the sheriff not to cooperate. And I'm not so sure
that they have the ability legally to tell him what
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to do when he, in fact, there is an elected
person who answers directly to the voters. I don't believe
he's at the beck and call of the supervisors, do
you no?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't you know. I'm gonna throw you some numbers
out here real quick, guys, and you just went after
these numbers I give you. You're just you're just gonna kind
of scratch your head. Now, keep this in mind, this
is only the little immigrants that's currently in their last
removal orders. Okay, so one point four million illegal immigrants
currently in the US with final orders to be removed.
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And I'm gonna break it down even more. China has
thirty seven thousand, nine hundred and eight Brazil thirty eight thousand,
six hundred and seventy seven, Haiti thirty two thousand, three
hundred and sixty three, Venezuela twenty two thousand, seven hundred
and forty nine. Now, if you take that into context, guys,
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that's a drop in the bucket of the illegal immigrants
here in the United States. Those are just in their
final orders to be removed. And these sanctuary cities are
refusing to work with ICE, you know, and and and
I know this because I was part of I'm retired now,
I was part of a department. And it's not the department,
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and it's it's just the the California laws that a
lot of these departments have to conform to. And you know,
they're standing orders that you can't talk to ICE agents
when they call. And and this is convicted people that
convicted illegal immigrants are here like hey, you know, can
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we get an address? Can you confirm this address? And
we literally could not. How terrible is that for me? Guys?
It was as a personal thing, it was really bad
for me because of what happened to my My oldest
brother was murdered by a criminal illegal immigrant. So you
have to put my shoes on and kind of feel
how I felt when I got that phone call from
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an ICE agent trying to remove a criminal legal immigrant
that just beat his wife up, or got five six DUIs,
or had stolen five or six cars almost every month.
So this is what President Trump and his administration and
Tom Holman is going to be fighting. What I want
to make sure you guys understand is that's who they're
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wanting to remove.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Right, And the other side is pretty much saying, no,
we want to leave those people in this community by sometimes.
You know, we've talked about how no answer is the answer, right,
and their answer is no, folks, we would like to
leave this virus in your body. We think it's a
good idea, and somehow they believe they're pandering to this community,
that somehow the Latinos are going to say, Oh, they're letting.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Criminals stay in our neighborhood. Oh they really like us,
are you people? That's stupid? I know, do you really
think that these.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Poor people want predators running in their community? Who who
in their right mind ever would call that good idea?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Jody? What do you think, Pastor?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, you know, you know, Pastor, Here's what I want
to ask you first before you answer anything. As a pastor,
as a man of Christ and of the believer of
the Word, how does that make you feel when you
hear them call people like us and you bad people,
and you know that that you want to deport everybody,
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how does that make you feel? Right?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Well, it's just a generalization that hopefully the mass majority
of people would know that just isn't true. Obviously, we
don't want to deport everybody. But this this with individual
with a family, with a let's say, a shepherd of
a church or a pastor or a president of a nation.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Our first priority is.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
To protect our people, like that's our god given responsibility
that comes really before anything else. And so when over
the last four years, when you've let millions of people in,
they have abdicated that responsibility. And so you know, President
Trump has a job that is not going to be
very fun. But somebody has to quote be the bad
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guy and get this done. Because here's the deal. If
you want to go back to the Bible. And I
used this before, I kind of let my congregation walk
into a trap before. But whenever the exile, so Israel
was exiled to Assyria and to Babylon and Persian all
that when they were coming back. Here's what I say.
I said, the first thing they did when they got
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back is they started building the foundation to the temple.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
And that's not true. I say that it's true, people,
amen or whatever. I said. Okay, this is not true.
You walked into a trap.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
But the first thing they did they started building the
walls of the city. That's what the first thing they did,
because they have to protect There's no reason to build
a temple if there's no protection for it. So they
have to use their resources and whatever you can read
about this with Nehemiah. They have a sword in one
hand and a thing to do brick and mortar in
the other hand, to try to protect themselves while they're
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building the walls. So that's the first thing that we
are as a governing agent, as a nation, or a
family or a pastor.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
We have to watch out for the wolves.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
And President Trump has a tough task ahead of him.
But like you said, I think he's going for the
criminals first. But there are always ways of coming into
the country legally, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
So I'm proud first and foremost to be in a
country that everybody wants to be in true and I
thank God every morning I wake up, every night I
go to sleep, every time I look around, I realize
that just by the blink of an eye, I wound
up here and not in Angola, not in Rwanda, not
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in any horrible third world country that has a lot
of strife. God chose me to be here, and I
thank Him every day. I hope that I would be
worthy of such a wonderful gift, because to me it
was a gift. And again, it's a gift not to
be DENI it's a gift not to be destroyed. But
at the same time, what does scripture tell us about
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what I consider lifeboat ethics? We got ten people in
a lifeboat. It's built for six and twenty more people
want to pull themselves into the boat?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Pastor what obligation do I have? And to whom?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Loading question?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Loading question right?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Easy?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You thought we're going to talk about the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Yeah, right, right. Well, that there's a lot of variables
that go into that.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
All all I can say to that is that you
if people are drowning, right, if people are drowning like
their lives are at stake, you get as many people
as you can into the boat, not like the Titanic.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
We hear stories about that right right, where they have
the elite. We're in the boat and they just left people.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, that's horrible, but so you get as many people
in the boat as you can to save their lives.
But in the in the case of a nation like people's,
people's livelihood and you know, there's standard of living is
what we're talking about here in other countries that's not
as high.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
And they think of America as the land of opportunity.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Well, to have the opportunity that you're gonna want to
have in America, you have to come in through the
proper channels, through the proper way. You can't just you
can't just come over swim across right right.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And the reason why we do that is because of that.
We can't have people in the United States that we
don't know who they are, if they're criminals, if you know,
if they're rapists, if they're whatever. That's why we have laws.
That's why we have immigration laws. That's why we have
a border to keep those people out. We can't let
those people in because look at what's going on around
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the country. This is this is what's happening. We can't
let that happen. So hey, we're gonna take a break
right now. When we come back, we're gonna kind of
talk about Trump being Man.
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Speaker 3 (13:32):
Right now, we're going to talk about realistic expectations. We
did not elect a messiah. We elected a president.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
There's things that I pray for from God that I
wait for patiently in his time. There are things that
people expect from a president that I don't think are
completely realistic. I think, going back four years it was
unrealistic to expect that Obama or Biden was going to
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give us better weather if we bought an electric car
or eight bugs or something like this. That was an
unrealistic expectation. I think that, first of all, Frank predicts
I'm not cressed in, but Frank predicts inflation will remain.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
We've trashed the dollar.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Once you've overprinted money, you have an imbalance in the system,
too many dollars chasing too few goods.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
This is just.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Unless we have a total collapse in commodity prices, which
would be a nineteen twenty nine event, which would be
twenty years of worldwide depression. That's the only thing that's
going to We'd have to be driven down to our
knees to get low prices. So don't hope for that.
That's not good. I would say the best we can
expect for is that we drill like crazy, hopefully revive
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the economy, get Americans working. I'd clean up government abuse,
restore some faith in the system, and reignite some American
values in national pride. I think these are realistic. What
would you expect, Pastor.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Well, like you said, Trump is definitely not a messiah.
He's a man and It's funny. He said, we didn't
elect a messiah, we elected a president. Well, Messiah is
not elected. Yeah he is, he is who he is, right, yep.
But we can just we can just hope that good
policies and good ideas will eventually soak in if I
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could say it that way, that hopefully prices could stay
where they're at and the wayges could increase to kind
of catch up, you know. So that's all we can
really hope for. But on on, on the spiritual side,
America needs a turning back to God. Like we we
cannot continue to operate the way we've operated, live the
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way we've lived without turning back to God. And I
told my congregation this, but I believe that we got
an opportunity, like a four year hiatus to really seek God,
to really pursue Him and seek for a move of
God in our country so that our hearts can be turned.
You can, because you can legislate morality. That's what a
law is. It's legislating morality, but you cannot legislate the
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motive behind that.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
And so we need people their hearts.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
We need people's hearts to change so that our hearts
will be drawn towards the things of God and the
ways of God, so that we can be kind to
each other, so we can be generous to each other.
And and that only happens with people in church really
coming back to the scripture, coming back to prayer and
devoting their lives to the Lord, to the Messiah.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And and I like the way you put that. And
what I say is this too. I've said this before.
You know, we need to elect more people that believe
in the Word. Yep, you know, so you know, it's
it's we have a lot of politicians right now that
they're really not not that saying that they're bad people,
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but like you said, the motivation there, you know, when
they when when they do write a law or you know,
anything they do in their life. I think having the
Lord in your life and really believe in the in
the Word gives you a different outlook on life and
the morality of everything. But I think we're seeing a
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change in America right now. And what I mean by
that is the wokeness. People just not ready for that yet.
They tried to push it on everyone and people are
just not ready for it.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I hope will never be ready for it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, getting You're right.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
My take on it was, I think when the left
went out of their way, as did the communists, to expel,
to expunge God from every facet of our society, we
created a vacuum. And I believe that nature abhors a vacuum.
And so what filled it by default was secular humanism,
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was climate religion, if you will, because I don't see
any of that steeped in science. I see it steeped
in faith. It's just to me, it's one more fake religion.
I think, uh, gender ideology. I think a lot of
this left wing stuff was basically what got sucked into
the vortex as we created a vacuum by getting rid
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of God. What's your take on it?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I mean something has to fill the void, and naturally
we're we are drawn to worship something, and so if
we're not gonna worship God, then we're gonna worship ourselves,
or we're going to have another God, whether it's a state,
whether it's foreign gods, whatever it is, there's gonna be
some We're made to worship something or give allegiance to something,
and so we're going to give allegiance, allegiance to the
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state or this this other stuff, all the all the
lies and deception that have come in regarding abortion and
transgender ideology, marriage, all of that. It's just it's been
what you've said, it's been sucked in, sucked into this vacuum.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And it's very natural for us because we.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Are we're in a broken world, and when we're born,
we have this this nature that automatic leans towards evil,
and so uh, it's easy for us to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
So we've got to fight.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
We've got to fight against that ideology and you know,
leaning towards the Lord.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, you know what's nice, So what a great take,
guys on on the view on that view. You know
what's nice is now we're seeing people like Chris Ray
of the FBI resigning. You know, he's done.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Never saw that coming.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I never saw that coming. You know, we got
a guy coming in now.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's I thought he was going to turn in a
job application like you do at Taco Bell and Trump
was going to hire.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I mean, he's already got the job. Why not go
with him?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah? Well, you know the left and the really crazy
left or irrelevant now they are, you know they really are.
Because if you see the wave coming now is is
a new feeling, a new It's like a breath of
fresh air coming into America, you know, with Trump and
his administration and all these people coming in his cabinet
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that is going to shake everything up up. I think
it's going to be a wonderful time the next four years.
I think it's going to be very very interesting. And
I say that because we're going to see a lot.
I think we're gonna see a lot of stuff that
that no American has ever seen before, you know, especially
with these mass deportations. It's going to happen. And I
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think depending on how bad the radical left wants to
to act, and I think it's going to be a
little different because I don't think the Trump administration is
going to put up with it like they did, you know,
in the past, like the BLM riots and stuff like that.
I don't think that they're going to let that happen.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Trump has always always wanted to give the powers back
to the States, So I think there's going to be
a riff there with places like here in California, you know,
and if you look at the totalitariat of California, it's
it's predominantly red, guys. It really is geographically geographically it is,
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you know, but then you have all these big cities
that's blue. So depending on what's gonna happen there, man,
it's it's gonna get a little ugly. But I think
the way here's what I foresee. There's gonna be a
lot of uh lawsuits, There's gonna be a lot of
you know, legalities going on, and you know, all the while,
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people is gonna be getting deported, which which I'm fine
with that because the illegal immigrants now that here, that
are here in America today there, it's it's a disruption
and it's a bad disruption. There's yes, is there good
people here that's here legally working every day and it's
been here a long time. Yes, However, predominantly the illegal
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immorgrants that came in under Biden's administration, you know, from
prisons it's insane asylums. When you hear that, you kind of,
you know, people think, oh, yeah, right, but no, it
really is. It's it's a fact. It's a proven fact
that Venezuela, you know, released prisoners.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
It was the Maurial boat lift.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it was no different than what
the Castro brothers did.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And that's a fact.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah, it was a it was a house cleaning. And
if you'll notice, their crime stats fell through the floor. Right,
they got rid of all their garbage, dumped it on us,
and right, Jody, they don't want them back.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Right, and guy not want to back.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
These people are so wonderful.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I'd be clamoring bring them back, bring them back, right,
nobody wants them back.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Guess where they're at now? We got them pastor where
are they at now? Where do you think they're at?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Yeah, there's somewhere in our country. Yeah, either they might
be in prison or they're running loose. I mean we've
had we've had our crime. You know, crime stats have
gone up.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so it happened. So I know for a fact
because again I was in law enforcement and and I've
seen it. I've seen him come off across my desk
that uh, you know, illegal immigrants, and it's really hard
to find if they are. You can't even ask them anymore,
like are you here legally? Or you can't ask them
there legal status? What other country on this planet does that?
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Let me tell you zero insane it It is insane.
So I think we need to get back to that,
and you know and understand that we're not evil people
that that don't want anybody here in America. America has
absolutely built on immigrants.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
But assimilated.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
There's a difference when you when you sign on to
the Dodgers, you take off your giants Jersey, right, It's
that simple.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I'm on this team.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Now, I yes, I you know it's this is this
is our game plan, this is who we are. We've
lost our identity, you know, and we're getting it back,
you know, Merrick, Christmas, everybody, how's that? You know? Christmas?
I'm not ashamed to say America.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Christmas, nor should we be in you know, it's not you.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Know, God bless you. I'm not afraid to say that either.
God bless everyone out there, because that's that's what we
need to get back to. You know, don't be afraid
to stand up and and and and say what you
really believe.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
But you know, for the last four years, correct me
if I'm wrong, there were only a few of us,
I know, the three of us in this room that
had the grit to stand up and speak the truth
even when it wasn't popular. Do you know how many
people or go along get along.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So I don't want to tell anybody I' voting for Trump.
But I don't want to anybody I'm a Republican. They
might hate me.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And you know that's what I mean. That's what I'm
talking about. And it's when I say that, I'm talking
to the Conservatives and the Republicans because too long we've
just kind of stood back and put our head in
the sand. And you know, we're not doing that no more.
And I can see it. I can see everybody coming up.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Your Your life will be better if you're like this,
trust me. Yeah, your wife will respect you. She wanted
to marry a man you haat like one.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Right, Hey, we're going to talk about some good stuff
right now. Pastor John, what do you guys got going
down in Legacy Church right now?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Yeah, Sunday we have two services normally, but we're gonna
have one. It's called the Big Give and so this
happens one time of year. We take people from our
community and mostly from our corgation if they have needs.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Or even big needs.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
We give about seventy eighty thousand dollars away in stuff
or money for the year. One of the things that
we do is we have fifteen thousand dollars in fifties
in envelopes that one one represented from a family comes
up to the front, just grabs one and we send
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them out all across the community. Say pray about who
God wants you to bless and then if it's like
some at a gas station, bless them with a fifty
or if it's a buy somebody's meal.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Just wherever we're at.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
That way, our people can be generous all across the
community during this Christmas season.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So we do that. We do that this Sunday.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, that is impressive. Hey, why don't you take us out,
your pastor John, and say a prayer for President Trump
in America.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Sure, Father God in heaven, we love you today. We
thank you for your intervention in our country.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Father.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
We just pray a blessing over President Trump at his
whole administration. Father God, I pray that you would give
his cabinet wisdom him wisdom. Father, just bless our country.
We ask you for a move of God to infiltrate
our country from the east coast to the west coast,
the north to the south. And God, we come back
to you and we trust you in Jesus Name.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Amen, Amen, Amen, God bless you and God bless them her.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Thanks folks, good things, and God bless me.
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Speaker 4 (00:50):
Hey guys, how you doing?
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And we have our guests back again, Pastor John Dunn
from Legacy Church and by Celia.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Yeah, thanks for having me back. It's been a minute, it.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Has uh, it's it's nice to have you back, buddy.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
We have a good show for you today, we're gonna
talk about, uh, just the time of the year. We
got a whole bunch of stuff on schedule right now
I kind of want to discuss. We're just gonna touch
on some immigration stuff because it's very important.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Next month is gonna get really crazy for America, and
we have to realize that what's going on. And when
I say that, I mean realize that everything's gonna be okay.
And remember they're not good. They're going after the criminals.
And and you hear California when they're when these these
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crazies are talking about, you know, the the city councils
and and the mayors, they're just saying how they're just
going to resist and fight Trump. And they're really not
fighting the resistian Trump. What they're doing is they're destroying
their communities because they're really going after the criminals in
the illegal immigrant community. That's who they're going after. They
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want to go to the jails and remove these people.
They don't really want to go out in the communities
and get these people. They want to be able to
just go to the jails and pick them up when
they get arrested. I love what Homan said. I love
homean saying, look, get out of our way, work with us,
and we won't have to go to your communities. We
could pick them right up from jail and we can
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get rid of them. And that's what we need to do.
And he's actually said he's going to prosecute elected officials
if they get in the way, because it is against
the law. It is absolutely against the United States law
to what harbor a felon, right, because really that's what
they're doing.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Absolutely right.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
We are conflating many different issues, one of which is
we have people in this country who came in not
through the door. This is one issue. And some of
them are very fine people who are working hard and
simply have a good vision. Others are and so I
think it does a disk service to all the and
pardon me, folks, all the good people who came here
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the wrong way simply to make a better life, to
all of a sudden put them in the same bucket
as the trendeerawa, as the MS thirteen, as the predator types.
And so those people deserve better than to be compared
to the worst. And you got to remember, these people
pray mostly on those communities they're not coming into Beverly
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Hills and doing that.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
They're doing it in the lower end.
Speaker 6 (03:31):
And when I see Eric Adams now reaching out to
Tom Homan for a meeting.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
This is very telling.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
This is a guy who was on that left saying
we're going to resist, We're going to be a sanctuary
city San Diego. You've got basically the county supervisors telling
the sheriff not to cooperate. And I'm not so sure
that they have the ability legally to tell him what
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to do when he, in fact, there is an elected
person who answers directly to the voters. I don't believe
he's at the beck and call of the supervisors, do
you no?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
I don't you know. I'm gonna throw you some numbers
out here real quick, guys, and you just went after
these numbers I give you. You're just you're just gonna kind
of scratch your head. Now, keep this in mind, this
is only the little immigrants that's currently in their last
removal orders. Okay, so one point four million illegal immigrants
currently in the US with final orders to be removed.
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And I'm gonna break it down even more. China has
thirty seven thousand, nine hundred and eight Brazil thirty eight thousand,
six hundred and seventy seven, Haiti thirty two thousand, three
hundred and sixty three, Venezuela twenty two thousand, seven hundred
and forty nine. Now, if you take that into context, guys,
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that's a drop in the bucket of the illegal immigrants
here in the United States. Those are just in their
final orders to be removed. And these sanctuary cities are
refusing to work with ICE, you know, and and and
I know this because I was part of I'm retired now,
I was part of a department. And it's not the department,
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and it's it's just the the California laws that a
lot of these departments have to conform to. And you know,
they're standing orders that you can't talk to ICE agents
when they call. And and this is convicted people that
convicted illegal immigrants are here like hey, you know, can
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we get an address? Can you confirm this address? And
we literally could not. How terrible is that for me? Guys?
It was as a personal thing, it was really bad
for me because of what happened to my My oldest
brother was murdered by a criminal illegal immigrant. So you
have to put my shoes on and kind of feel
how I felt when I got that phone call from
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an ICE agent trying to remove a criminal legal immigrant
that just beat his wife up, or got five six DUIs,
or had stolen five or six cars almost every month.
So this is what President Trump and his administration and
Tom Holman is going to be fighting. What I want
to make sure you guys understand is that's who they're
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wanting to remove.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
Right, And the other side is pretty much saying, no,
we want to leave those people in this community by sometimes.
You know, we've talked about how no answer is the answer, right,
and their answer is no, folks, we would like to
leave this virus in your body. We think it's a
good idea, and somehow they believe they're pandering to this community,
that somehow the Latinos are going to say, Oh, they're letting.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Criminals stay in our neighborhood. Oh they really like us,
are you people? That's stupid? I know, do you really
think that these.
Speaker 6 (06:53):
Poor people want predators running in their community? Who who
in their right mind ever would call that good idea?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Jody? What do you think, Pastor?
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, you know, you know, Pastor, Here's what I want
to ask you first before you answer anything. As a pastor,
as a man of Christ and of the believer of
the Word, how does that make you feel when you
hear them call people like us and you bad people,
and you know that that you want to deport everybody,
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how does that make you feel? Right?
Speaker 7 (07:25):
Well, it's just a generalization that hopefully the mass majority
of people would know that just isn't true. Obviously, we
don't want to deport everybody. But this this with individual
with a family, with a let's say, a shepherd of
a church or a pastor or a president of a nation.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Our first priority is.
Speaker 7 (07:43):
To protect our people, like that's our god given responsibility
that comes really before anything else. And so when over
the last four years, when you've let millions of people in,
they have abdicated that responsibility. And so you know, President
Trump has a job that is not going to be
very fun. But somebody has to quote be the bad
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guy and get this done. Because here's the deal. If
you want to go back to the Bible. And I
used this before, I kind of let my congregation walk
into a trap before. But whenever the exile, so Israel
was exiled to Assyria and to Babylon and Persian all
that when they were coming back. Here's what I say.
I said, the first thing they did when they got
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back is they started building the foundation to the temple.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
And that's not true. I say that it's true, people,
amen or whatever. I said. Okay, this is not true.
You walked into a trap.
Speaker 7 (08:36):
But the first thing they did they started building the
walls of the city. That's what the first thing they did,
because they have to protect There's no reason to build
a temple if there's no protection for it. So they
have to use their resources and whatever you can read
about this with Nehemiah. They have a sword in one
hand and a thing to do brick and mortar in
the other hand, to try to protect themselves while they're
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building the walls. So that's the first thing that we
are as a governing agent, as a nation, or a
family or a pastor.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
We have to watch out for the wolves.
Speaker 7 (09:08):
And President Trump has a tough task ahead of him.
But like you said, I think he's going for the
criminals first. But there are always ways of coming into
the country legally, you know.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
So I'm proud first and foremost to be in a
country that everybody wants to be in true and I
thank God every morning I wake up, every night I
go to sleep, every time I look around, I realize
that just by the blink of an eye, I wound
up here and not in Angola, not in Rwanda, not
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in any horrible third world country that has a lot
of strife. God chose me to be here, and I
thank Him every day. I hope that I would be
worthy of such a wonderful gift, because to me it
was a gift. And again, it's a gift not to
be DENI it's a gift not to be destroyed. But
at the same time, what does scripture tell us about
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what I consider lifeboat ethics? We got ten people in
a lifeboat. It's built for six and twenty more people
want to pull themselves into the boat?
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Pastor what obligation do I have? And to whom?
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Loading question?
Speaker 5 (10:21):
Loading question right?
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Easy?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Right?
Speaker 4 (10:24):
You thought we're going to talk about the Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
Yeah, right, right. Well, that there's a lot of variables
that go into that.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
All all I can say to that is that you
if people are drowning, right, if people are drowning like
their lives are at stake, you get as many people
as you can into the boat, not like the Titanic.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
We hear stories about that right right, where they have
the elite. We're in the boat and they just left people.
Speaker 7 (10:49):
Yeah, that's horrible, but so you get as many people
in the boat as you can to save their lives.
But in the in the case of a nation like people's,
people's livelihood and you know, there's standard of living is
what we're talking about here in other countries that's not
as high.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
And they think of America as the land of opportunity.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Well, to have the opportunity that you're gonna want to
have in America, you have to come in through the
proper channels, through the proper way. You can't just you
can't just come over swim across right right.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
And the reason why we do that is because of that.
We can't have people in the United States that we
don't know who they are, if they're criminals, if you know,
if they're rapists, if they're whatever. That's why we have laws.
That's why we have immigration laws. That's why we have
a border to keep those people out. We can't let
those people in because look at what's going on around
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the country. This is this is what's happening. We can't
let that happen. So hey, we're gonna take a break
right now. When we come back, we're gonna kind of
talk about Trump being Man.
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Speaker 3 (13:32):
Right now, we're going to talk about realistic expectations. We
did not elect a messiah. We elected a president.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Absolutely.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
There's things that I pray for from God that I
wait for patiently in his time. There are things that
people expect from a president that I don't think are
completely realistic. I think, going back four years it was
unrealistic to expect that Obama or Biden was going to
(14:01):
give us better weather if we bought an electric car
or eight bugs or something like this. That was an
unrealistic expectation. I think that, first of all, Frank predicts
I'm not cressed in, but Frank predicts inflation will remain.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
We've trashed the dollar.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
Once you've overprinted money, you have an imbalance in the system,
too many dollars chasing too few goods.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
This is just.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
Unless we have a total collapse in commodity prices, which
would be a nineteen twenty nine event, which would be
twenty years of worldwide depression. That's the only thing that's
going to We'd have to be driven down to our
knees to get low prices. So don't hope for that.
That's not good. I would say the best we can
expect for is that we drill like crazy, hopefully revive
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the economy, get Americans working. I'd clean up government abuse,
restore some faith in the system, and reignite some American
values in national pride. I think these are realistic. What
would you expect, Pastor.
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Well, like you said, Trump is definitely not a messiah.
He's a man and It's funny. He said, we didn't
elect a messiah, we elected a president. Well, Messiah is
not elected. Yeah he is, he is who he is, right, yep.
But we can just we can just hope that good
policies and good ideas will eventually soak in if I
(15:23):
could say it that way, that hopefully prices could stay
where they're at and the wayges could increase to kind
of catch up, you know. So that's all we can
really hope for. But on on, on the spiritual side,
America needs a turning back to God. Like we we
cannot continue to operate the way we've operated, live the
(15:43):
way we've lived without turning back to God. And I
told my congregation this, but I believe that we got
an opportunity, like a four year hiatus to really seek God,
to really pursue Him and seek for a move of
God in our country so that our hearts can be turned.
You can, because you can legislate morality. That's what a
law is. It's legislating morality, but you cannot legislate the
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motive behind that.
Speaker 5 (16:08):
And so we need people their hearts.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
We need people's hearts to change so that our hearts
will be drawn towards the things of God and the
ways of God, so that we can be kind to
each other, so we can be generous to each other.
And and that only happens with people in church really
coming back to the scripture, coming back to prayer and
devoting their lives to the Lord, to the Messiah.
Speaker 8 (16:29):
You know.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And and I like the way you put that. And
what I say is this too. I've said this before.
You know, we need to elect more people that believe
in the Word. Yep, you know, so you know, it's
it's we have a lot of politicians right now that
they're really not not that saying that they're bad people,
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but like you said, the motivation there, you know, when
they when when they do write a law or you know,
anything they do in their life. I think having the
Lord in your life and really believe in the in
the Word gives you a different outlook on life and
the morality of everything. But I think we're seeing a
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change in America right now. And what I mean by
that is the wokeness. People just not ready for that yet.
They tried to push it on everyone and people are
just not ready for it.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I hope will never be ready for it.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Yeah, getting You're right.
Speaker 6 (17:32):
My take on it was, I think when the left
went out of their way, as did the communists, to expel,
to expunge God from every facet of our society, we
created a vacuum. And I believe that nature abhors a vacuum.
And so what filled it by default was secular humanism,
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was climate religion, if you will, because I don't see
any of that steeped in science. I see it steeped
in faith. It's just to me, it's one more fake religion.
I think, uh, gender ideology. I think a lot of
this left wing stuff was basically what got sucked into
the vortex as we created a vacuum by getting rid
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of God. What's your take on it?
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
I mean something has to fill the void, and naturally
we're we are drawn to worship something, and so if
we're not gonna worship God, then we're gonna worship ourselves,
or we're going to have another God, whether it's a state,
whether it's foreign gods, whatever it is, there's gonna be
some We're made to worship something or give allegiance to something,
and so we're going to give allegiance, allegiance to the
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state or this this other stuff, all the all the
lies and deception that have come in regarding abortion and
transgender ideology, marriage, all of that. It's just it's been
what you've said, it's been sucked in, sucked into this vacuum.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
And it's very natural for us because we.
Speaker 7 (18:54):
Are we're in a broken world, and when we're born,
we have this this nature that automatic leans towards evil,
and so uh, it's easy for us to do that.
Speaker 5 (19:05):
So we've got to fight.
Speaker 7 (19:06):
We've got to fight against that ideology and you know,
leaning towards the Lord.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Well, you know what's nice, So what a great take,
guys on on the view on that view. You know
what's nice is now we're seeing people like Chris Ray
of the FBI resigning. You know, he's done.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
Never saw that coming.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Yeah, I never saw that coming. You know, we got
a guy coming in now.
Speaker 6 (19:29):
That's I thought he was going to turn in a
job application like you do at Taco Bell and Trump
was going to hire.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
I mean, he's already got the job. Why not go
with him?
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Yeah? Well, you know the left and the really crazy
left or irrelevant now they are, you know they really are.
Because if you see the wave coming now is is
a new feeling, a new It's like a breath of
fresh air coming into America, you know, with Trump and
his administration and all these people coming in his cabinet
(19:58):
that is going to shake everything up up. I think
it's going to be a wonderful time the next four years.
I think it's going to be very very interesting. And
I say that because we're going to see a lot.
I think we're gonna see a lot of stuff that
that no American has ever seen before, you know, especially
with these mass deportations. It's going to happen. And I
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think depending on how bad the radical left wants to
to act, and I think it's going to be a
little different because I don't think the Trump administration is
going to put up with it like they did, you know,
in the past, like the BLM riots and stuff like that.
I don't think that they're going to let that happen.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Trump has always always wanted to give the powers back
to the States, So I think there's going to be
a riff there with places like here in California, you know,
and if you look at the totalitariat of California, it's
it's predominantly red, guys. It really is geographically geographically it is,
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you know, but then you have all these big cities
that's blue. So depending on what's gonna happen there, man,
it's it's gonna get a little ugly. But I think
the way here's what I foresee. There's gonna be a
lot of uh lawsuits, There's gonna be a lot of
you know, legalities going on, and you know, all the while,
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people is gonna be getting deported, which which I'm fine
with that because the illegal immigrants now that here, that
are here in America today there, it's it's a disruption
and it's a bad disruption. There's yes, is there good
people here that's here legally working every day and it's
been here a long time. Yes, However, predominantly the illegal
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immorgrants that came in under Biden's administration, you know, from
prisons it's insane asylums. When you hear that, you kind of,
you know, people think, oh, yeah, right, but no, it
really is. It's it's a fact. It's a proven fact
that Venezuela, you know, released prisoners.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
It was the Maurial boat lift.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
Yeah, I know, yeah, it was no different than what
the Castro brothers did.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
And that's a fact.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Yeah, it was a it was a house cleaning. And
if you'll notice, their crime stats fell through the floor. Right,
they got rid of all their garbage, dumped it on us,
and right, Jody, they don't want them back.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Right, and guy not want to back.
Speaker 4 (22:21):
These people are so wonderful.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
I'd be clamoring bring them back, bring them back, right,
nobody wants them back.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Guess where they're at now? We got them pastor where
are they at now? Where do you think they're at?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Yeah, there's somewhere in our country. Yeah, either they might
be in prison or they're running loose. I mean we've
had we've had our crime. You know, crime stats have
gone up.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, so it happened. So I know for a fact
because again I was in law enforcement and and I've
seen it. I've seen him come off across my desk
that uh, you know, illegal immigrants, and it's really hard
to find if they are. You can't even ask them anymore,
like are you here legally? Or you can't ask them
there legal status? What other country on this planet does that?
(23:04):
Let me tell you zero insane it It is insane.
So I think we need to get back to that,
and you know and understand that we're not evil people
that that don't want anybody here in America. America has
absolutely built on immigrants.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
But assimilated.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
There's a difference when you when you sign on to
the Dodgers, you take off your giants Jersey, right, It's
that simple.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
I'm on this team.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Now, I yes, I you know it's this is this
is our game plan, this is who we are. We've
lost our identity, you know, and we're getting it back,
you know, Merrick, Christmas, everybody, how's that? You know? Christmas?
I'm not ashamed to say America.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Christmas, nor should we be in you know, it's not you.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Know, God bless you. I'm not afraid to say that either.
God bless everyone out there, because that's that's what we
need to get back to. You know, don't be afraid
to stand up and and and and say what you
really believe.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
But you know, for the last four years, correct me
if I'm wrong, there were only a few of us,
I know, the three of us in this room that
had the grit to stand up and speak the truth
even when it wasn't popular. Do you know how many
people or go along get along.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
So I don't want to tell anybody I' voting for Trump.
But I don't want to anybody I'm a Republican. They
might hate me.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
And you know that's what I mean. That's what I'm
talking about. And it's when I say that, I'm talking
to the Conservatives and the Republicans because too long we've
just kind of stood back and put our head in
the sand. And you know, we're not doing that no more.
And I can see it. I can see everybody coming up.
Speaker 6 (24:35):
Your Your life will be better if you're like this,
trust me. Yeah, your wife will respect you. She wanted
to marry a man you haat like one.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Right, Hey, we're going to talk about some good stuff
right now. Pastor John, what do you guys got going
down in Legacy Church right now?
Speaker 7 (24:49):
Yeah, Sunday we have two services normally, but we're gonna
have one. It's called the Big Give and so this
happens one time of year. We take people from our
community and mostly from our corgation if they have needs.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Or even big needs.
Speaker 7 (25:03):
We give about seventy eighty thousand dollars away in stuff
or money for the year. One of the things that
we do is we have fifteen thousand dollars in fifties
in envelopes that one one represented from a family comes
up to the front, just grabs one and we send
(25:24):
them out all across the community. Say pray about who
God wants you to bless and then if it's like
some at a gas station, bless them with a fifty
or if it's a buy somebody's meal.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
Just wherever we're at.
Speaker 7 (25:34):
That way, our people can be generous all across the
community during this Christmas season.
Speaker 5 (25:39):
So we do that. We do that this Sunday.
Speaker 4 (25:41):
That's impressive.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, that is impressive. Hey, why don't you take us out,
your pastor John, and say a prayer for President Trump
in America.
Speaker 7 (25:49):
Sure, Father God in heaven, we love you today. We
thank you for your intervention in our country.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Father.
Speaker 7 (25:56):
We just pray a blessing over President Trump at his
whole administration. Father God, I pray that you would give
his cabinet wisdom him wisdom. Father, just bless our country.
We ask you for a move of God to infiltrate
our country from the east coast to the west coast,
the north to the south. And God, we come back
to you and we trust you in Jesus Name.
Speaker 3 (26:16):
Amen, Amen, Amen, God bless you and God bless them her.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
Thanks folks, good things, and God bless me.
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