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Speaker 2 (00:38):
This is the Jody Jones Show on Bourtog ninety six
seven and day.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I'm fourteen hundred.
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Jody Jones Show. I
am Jody Jones, my co host Frank Man Leningham.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
Thanks for having me in, folks.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
We are getting right to the chase. We have Trevor
Carrey in here today. If you don't know who Trevor
Carrey is, you're living in a box somewhere. He is,
he has He's right here. On Power Talk every Monday
through Friday from three pm to six pm. Trevor, how
you doing, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Guys, thanks for having me in here. This is the
first time ever I've been interviewed on the radio. I
B ninety five did a podcast few years ago.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
He interviewed me.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But this is it, man, Thank you. It's so weird
to be on this side looking at you over there
in the seat I'm normally in.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, bro, We're always talking on the phone, and you
know what do we always say to each other? Man,
we look down the phone. Man, We've been on for
like twenty five minutes forty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I said, this is the kind of phone conversations you
have in your first date and a girl. You'll ask
a guy, You'll talk for a long time, but then
you suddenly get down to hey, I gotta go it you.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, we do it all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I want to know.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
I want to tell everybody out there too.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
This is the first time I've ever did a show
without any anything pre done. I just I wanted to
come in and talk to Trevor like we talk on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Man. He's saying, you were counting on me to fill
up this thirty minutes.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Well, you know, I'm going to here.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Pay were in front of you, and I'm looking at
what I got in front of me.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And I have who's been doing this longer?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I have Joe by Nightas I got to write
some things down.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
That's funny. I did that too.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
The first thing that says is write stuff on paper,
and that's all I've got. I've gotten that for.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Hey, you know what, buddy, we were talking and you
said you were doing something and I was super curious,
and we talked about it more and more, and you
said you wanted to kind of talk about it today.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
This is like October of last year. I've been writing
my book. It was going to be called When Flags Cry.
It was gonna have the Flag Crying. It was going
to be but I started writing when I got into
talking to that, and I kept writing and I just
kept writing about my life. And I was talking to Jody,
I don't know, October November last year, and I was
telling him. He goes, I go, it's man, I've just
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been all over the place. When I go back and
chronicle my life and he goes, hey, should name of
the book. Then that's it. It's all over the place
Thanky Jody, your name in the book. My oldest son said,
write a book. My neighbor said, write a book. And
when people tell you that, and it's kind of been
in the back of your mind to sit down and
do you know, like getting my sprinklers fixed in the
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backyard for four years, it hasn't gotten done. The things
that we put off and procrastinate, Frank Jody one of
the hardest things I've ever done, because I could only
really do it on Saturday Sunday afternoons, right because Monday
through Friday I thought I could write. When I got
home to night, I was just too white. But the
discipline that it takes to go sit down in anybody
that's even written an instruction pamphlet, I'm impressed by authors
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now and the I mean, just the discipline it takes.
Because there were so many Saturdays, well, I'd rather gone
eating some pancakes and gone to a thirst store and
just hung out and watched YouTube that afternoon, laid on
the couch. But forcing yourself to write and having to
go back. We all have bad memories about our lives.
We all have good memories about our lives, but having
the chronicle so many that weren't real positive. Wasn't a
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fun thing to wake up on a Saturday at six
thirty and go down and say start at seven.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
That's like cleaning out your closet, not something you really
always want to do.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's like calling up a mediator at divorce core going.
Can you just refresh me about everything that? That wouldn't
be a good call? Now? What negative?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
My biggest question to you right now, bro, is this
what made you want to write a book?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
My son saying rite your life, and my neighbor's saying,
write your life. And we all have I tell you know,
like VH one behind the Music, they take famous people
and slow down the video and play slow music. You
could take anybody sitting in traffic's life and put a
VH one behind their life story to it. We all
have one. And mine really started out in radio where
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we're sitting here right now. My love for this. My
dad was a news director. You see his picture right
back behind you. They're the wpad car. Oh wow, And I.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Thought that was a cop. Every time I look at that,
I always like now that police Department's dad.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
In nineteen seventy one, my first memory was the seventy
two Olympics, listening to my dad on the radio with
my mom in the car, and my dad was saying
terrorist gorillas have taken over the Olympic compound. And I'm
listening and I'm like, oh, how can gorillas take you know,
Planet of the Apes, you know or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
that was my first memory hearing my dad on the
radio because I couldn't understand how gorillas could shoot people,
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and he got explained to me. My first commercial was
age of ten. He was a general manager in Waco, Texas,
and I was a kid in a circus commercial saying
the old man was thinking back to when he was
a kid, and I was that voice. I would sit
at home in my radio just waiting for that commercial
to come on to hear myself, wow, and so the
bug bit might my dad provided that.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's amazing, that's awesome, that's cool. And what was your
what was your fun I mean, out of all the
chapters in your book, what do you think was the
funnest one to write? Like the one you're thinking, oh,
this is fun, because like you said, it was kind
of hard.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, I think some of the funniest it wasn't fun
at the time, but it's kind of funny now, you
know how you can look back at life like that
after doing radio and I have to close my eyes. Here,
let me give you the all the radio stops. Let
me see, let me think here, Ridgecrest, Chico, Marysville, Santa Rosa, Colorado, Springs,
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Rent Reno, Fresno. In ninety two, let's see unemployment Kansas City,
San Jose, Phoenix. And then in ninety five, I as
a music director and program director in radio. I get
to know record people, so they're like, hey, be a
good record guy. I was twenty nine. I was tired
of answering the request lines, Hi, can you play? You
know you? Kind of I feel like I was growing up.
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I was married, had kids, and so I took a
job in LA working for Sony West Coast. And this
is the funny story. I almost lost my job in
the first six months and I failed upwards. Have you
ever heard of that happening? You've heard that? Right? Yeah,
all right here. It wasn't funny then, but it's funny now.
Bone Thongs at Harmony had a song on their album
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called the Crossroads, and they put it out and then
there were a DJ DJ Unique that remixed the song
and they mailed it out to all the record reps
on a white cassette with bone remix written in black.
Marker came to me. So I'm hanging out that weekend
with the music director of Power one oh six. He
used to be my intern in San Jose, so we
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were friends with Our families knew each other, our kids
knew each other. I'm sitting in the car playing this
for him and he goes, I love this song, and
he took it upstairs to Power one oh six immediately
carded it up and put it on the air on
a Saturday, and they played it Saturday and Sunday. I'm
new to the game. There's an urban department that ran
the beat in LA totally different department. It was uh yeah,
(07:38):
we had uh we had a Jim Crow lass. You know,
we had white and black urban and pop. So that
station across town, in the second largest media market did yeah, yeah, yeah,
they didn't have that song, and they're hearing their competitor
blow it up all weekend.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
What the heck?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I got calls on Sunday, What did you dude? That
was a white cascent for you to listen to Lord,
I'm like, okay, tell my wife, well, I probably won't
have a job on Monday. They're seeing they're sending cease
and desist letters and they're ignoring it, acting like nobody's
in the building. And then on Monday I got sent
out to everybody. And guess what happened. That song was
the quickest rise to number one since the Beatles in
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nineteen sixty four. It stayed at number one for eight weeks.
And guess what When that happens, everybody forgets what I did. Yeah,
and God, and within the year I was I went
to National in New York, so I failed upwards.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
It's Lord, you have been all over the place, all.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Over the place, literally, Yeah, and I loved the last
ten years of being grounded and rooted.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Did you ever get tired of playing that same song
that everybody requests?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Eat Kokomo cam On, Trudy MoMA, I just have.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
That on here.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Oh my gosh. But did you have a favorite song
one that you liked? I wish somebody would ask for
this one.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, they all blur. I'm a good Goodall's fan. That's
why it's part of my song intro there. But the
thing is, I don't play an instrument. I kind of
taught myself to play the drums. I know a few
chords on a guitar, but I would never play in
front of anybody. I can't sing, even though I was
in a choir Millie vanillaiing at once faking it. I
did that to meet women girls when I was a teenager.
But I've always loved music, and being in music was
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just it really was fun. Now it got to the
point I didn't like the music that I was promoting.
It wasn't it wasn't good for.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You to handle that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I quit.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Well, that's one way to handle it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Can I tell you the story?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
After I left Sony, I became an independent and so
I can make more money. I worked for every label,
getting records played across the country. We moved to Elk Grove.
My eight year old son at the time is now
thirty and just got out of the Air Force. He
rides upon his bike and goes, Dad, don't bow those
CDs away. I was cleaned out my truck promo crap
that I'd never we shielded them from it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I know, young man, if you're out there listening to
your dad right now. Thank you for your service, buddy.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yes, yes, and he rides up and he goes, don't tell
them see these way. I'm like, it's not good music, Dom.
Why did they send them to you, dad? Why did
somebody send you music that's not good? He wanted to know,
and I was like, well, that's the reason you have
your bike and a roof over your head. I promote
this crap to other people's kids and shield you from it.
I didn't say that. I went, uh, go ride your bike.
(10:20):
I was a hypocrite. It hit me hard, and it
hit me for months, and talking to my parents, to
a pastor that imagine talking to a pastor that looks
and talks like Martin Luther King, you'd have to believe it. Now, Treva,
is it evil? Yes or no? I mean he was
that direct and I'm like yeah, and he's like, then quit.
I'm like, no, I'm gonna slowly quit. I have to
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slowly quit. And I over a few months, I made
the calls to a lot of upset people, and Wow
walked away and said I want to try newstalk.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Wow, And then you just got in the news talk.
And that's how you got into news.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Talk walking away, Wow, Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
What he always told is a kid, don't quit. Always
have a job first, then you quit, right Yeah, but
so but I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
When you realize you're driving the truck full of drugs
up from the border, acting like you get out and
get money and you don't know what's in the back,
that's kind of what I felt like.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I totally get it.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah. I need to love what I do.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
And one thing I always tell my customers is and
you have customers a lot more than we do, for sure.
If you hire me, you get all of my love,
all of my heart, every bit of me. If I
can't bring it all, then you're just getting a hollered
out lobster tail. I'm just the walking wounded and I
can't do that. I totally respect. That must have been terrifying, though,
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having a wife, kids, housing to pay for, and all
of a sudden we're going to take our source of
income and get rid of it. What did you have
any I'm sure all this ran through your mind.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Ran through my mind. It was all over the place
for a long time, Like, God, this is what you
wanted me to do. Where's the blessing? Where is it?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You show me where are you God? I thought, you know,
I said I was doing this because it wasn't right
for you. I wanted to do something you wanted me
to do. But a lot of times you make that choice,
we think the bushing's going to come immediately. There can
be some times in the desert like Moses right right?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
What do we always say though, Well, everybody always says
it because it's absolutely true.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
We work on God's time. He don't work on ours.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And I am a big believer in you know, God
has everything planned out for us.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We need to stop being clock setters.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Exactly, man. And it's it's just when something happens. I
know in my life, sometimes it's not the way I
wanted it to, but it does happen, you know, whether
I like it or not. You know, I pray to
God and I say, you know, please let me see
you know the path here.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
He shows me the path.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It might not be the one I wanted, but in
the end it's the one I needed. And I believe
that sounds like could happen to you too, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, all over the place was a journey, and I
know there's times I jumped off the boat and got
out of odds plan. Yeah, but when you get back
on he's still moving.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
This is so much fun.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Thank you for coming in, and we are going to
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Speaker 4 (15:02):
Hey, guys, we are back on the Jody Jones Show.
We have Trevor Carey in here and we have been
talking some good stuff. He has a book that's coming
out and we are super excited and we got some
more stories he wants to share.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's called all over the place, from hip hop to
talk radio.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Right on.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I'm noticing one of your chapters says got a minute,
I've got a really bad idea. Expand on that. That's
kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Why don't you kick the worst one in the book?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Man?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I got this great job in New York. We got
three kids. We live in Connecticut. I got a town
car service that picks you up after eight if you're
in the city. American Music Awards, on the road with artists,
never seeing my kids. I come home so late at night,
and I said, I was, you know, taking them for
interviews around the country. Difference and I would in the
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I always wanted to be on the air when I
was in there. I radio wasn't out of me. So
this consultant said, hey, I got a job back in
California programming a radio station. You can get in a year.
We'll get you back to a bigger market if you
want to come back to radio, and I was like, yes.
It was cold in New York, the subways, all of that.
So I came out for the interview. Rented a car
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record company and they always want you to get something nice,
so they do, they tell you get something nice. I'm
getting the convertible. So it was like seventy five out
here in the spring and I'm driving from Sacramento down
to Stockton. Station was in stock and k Win Stockton Modesto,
and I thought, okay, back to California. The wife wanted
to come back, so I come in. I go, hey,
(16:34):
I got a really bad idea. You got a minute
because I fast forwarded to about a month later when
we moved back out. I left the company, got back
into radio. They're all in the hotel. I'm getting a
pizza at some strip mall in Stockton. Trash everywhere, the
cars that go boom boom going by. I'm holding this
pizza and I went, what did you do? You needed
(16:57):
a vacation? You need that's all it was. You overreacted
and moved back. So that was when I realized that
wasn't a good.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Idea, Like a light bulb, come on, huh.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But it ended up leading to talk radio.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Wow, what year was it that you morphed into talk radio?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That was two thousand and four. I had well the
whole year two thousand and four. I was went through
a divorce. She divorced after I left the record. All
that stuff. Me huh, I'm not that's in the book,
but we don't need to bring that up right now.
But yeah, read the book for all the depressing stuff.
But I had gone back. We'd gone back to Colorado.
My parents are there, her parents were there. I was
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working at Alisento five nine in Denver doing making demos.
I mean from midnight. The morning show would sometimes kick
me out at five am. They had to be in
there is the only time I could get in the
production room. And it had all gone to computers and
that times inside left. So there's a production director there
that goes, I'll train you. And by the way, I
used to be a news talk program director. Look how
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God provided that. And then much time the demos out
for a year getting nothing. Dude in Baker shild goes,
you want to do a night show. Maybe I'm gonna
look for the budget. I said, yeah. He didn't find
the budget, but it just so happened. He was on
a call with the guy in Colorado and the guy
in baker Shield goes, there's a guy in Denver that
looking for a talk show.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So, to make a long story real long, I call him.
We meet up and he goes ten at night to
one in the morning, barter, you can have a couple
of commercials. And at that same time, that ally station
offered me a full time job that paid well with
Benefit's all this, and I went, now I'm gonna go
try talk. So it started at ten at night till
one in the morning in Greeley, Colorado. And that guy
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that helped me get that job from Bakersfield is now
the program director of our competition here in town. Yeah. Yeah,
So I was on in Colorado and then he put
me on out in Bakersfield at night. But it was
all barter chicken for a bag of grain.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
To middle of the night on talk radio.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We're not saying nothing. Well, no, it was. It was
a hard boogie. It was. But God provide. Hey, this
is during the housing crisis. You know this your builder.
I said, Okay, I have eight commercials during the day,
I can also sell. So I went to this builder
and said, let me run. You got empty houses, I
got empty commercials. Let's advertise. He goes, here's three keys,
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the three subdivisions, go out and pick out what house
you want. I was like, God, I guess you want
this happen man? Look you provided.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That was something.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Hey, you know we you've told me a story about
I'm just going to say blue jeans.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I think New.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Kids on the Block, Yeah, I told you. This is
nineteen eighty seven. Santa Roza Richard Marx was there and
they had an opening band called the New Kids on
the Block that had one hit. And we were backstage
and the youngest one I don't remember his name now,
but he's asking.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, little Joe Joe.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But he's backstage and he's like, does he may have
an iron? And I'm like no. So he goes, anybody
have a razor blade? And you know it's radio and records.
Back then, everybody carried one in their wallet. So somebody
had a razor blade for it and they I saw
this little boy go there and cut his jeans up,
and I'm like, what is he doing? He cut them
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up instead of making them look wrinkled and went out
on stage. We cut up jeans and then like years
later I started to see people wearing them and I
took off. I said, maybe I saw how that churing
got started. Wow, if I'd had an iron, it would
have never I'd never taken off.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
I loved that story.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Hey, you know what, Trevor, you were talking about how
you got started and you're the reason I got started.
I mean the way God works. You know, remember when
we were at the same we were both talking at
the down in Exeter, South Valley, the Republican Women's You
go on first, then I go on, and I remember
looking at you and you're watching me, and then you
(20:53):
come in, and afterwards you told me, hey, will you
come on my show and tell your brother's story. I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
So after that, you called me about a week later
and you said, hey, have you ever thought about going
on the radio having a radio show. I'm like, no, nope.
So well you told me you should think about it
because I think you'll do very well. I'm like, okay.
(21:15):
So you and I started, you know, doing this, and
I remember going to your house and I remember walking
out of the house going man, I let him down,
so I'm going, oh god, but you know it ended up.
We come and we have a meeting with the iHeart guys.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Here.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He sits down and goes, hey, Jody, do you have
a CD of your podcast. I'm like, no, man, I
don't have him goes, do you have any experience? Nope?
And he looks at you and You're like, uh, I'll
have him ready. And man, that's all it took for
Trevor to say I'll have him ready. He jumped you
know yeah, and I'll never forget it. He turned in
(21:52):
and looked at me and he said, tell me about
yourself and I and I told him, you know my story,
and he said, you're going to fit in the station perfect.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
We walked out and I remember you saying, hey, man,
you know you're gonna do fine. And I remember thinking
to myself, I can't let Trevor down. But you know what,
in reality, I couldn't let myself down and my brother
because I'm doing this for my brother and that's why
I'm in the radio, That's why I'm doing what I
do to inform people what's really trying to you know,
(22:23):
what's really going on. And uh, I like giving my opinion,
you know, and I found something that I like. And
you know, like you were talking about, you know, the
guys working at your competitor and stuff like that, you're
the guy that started me and and I thank you
for that, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Oh hey, you guys have done a great job. And
he's filled in for me and not it's on vacation.
I was truly impressed.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I listened to You're too kind that that was a
lot of worse I was.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I had no idea how tough.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
That was gonna be, and you do it every darn day.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
I have nothing but respect.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, you know, if you don't, if you've never did
this kind of work, then you don't know. But I'm
going to tell you guys, it's a lot of prep.
And Trevor is one of a kind man. I've seen
him prep for his shows and it's professionalism all the
way around. And I thank you for you know, showing
me a lot of it too. So all right, and
(23:18):
hopefully it showed up. You know when when we did
fill in for you, I told Frank, I was like, dude,
this is a lot. So we prepped like the day
before the day out.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Well imagine doing this show that we're doing this afternoon
six times?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Dude, it was five. Trevor was fresh. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The first day we did it, We're like okay, because
we're all pumped, you know, And then I remember you
call me, Hey, are you tired, and I'm like, no,
I feel pretty good.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
The second day.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I was like, oh, and I met We drove off
and freaked like, dude, I'm spent. I'm like, yeah, I go.
Can you imagine doing this is five days a week?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He's like, Wow, it's Saturday and I'm tired right now,
so can we end this? Come on? You know, I'm
just being serious. I can't kidding. Hey, thank you, thank
you so much for having me in. And it's the
first time I've announced all over the place the book
would be out in the fall that Jodie Jones Well
basically said name it what you just blurted out loud,
(24:14):
So you you told me what to name it.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
People don't really realize how tough writing the book is.
And because not just writing a book, right.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, writing the books an easy part. QR codes and
UPC codes and taxes and all I gotta go for help.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
But now, when you write a book, do you use
a pencil and paper, pen and paper and write a
book or is it all done on your phone? Done
on a computer?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
How do you die?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
All right?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
On the laptop? Microsoftware Times New Roman twelve?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Okay twelve? Fun real quick before we have to go in.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I got about a minute and a half here, but
I'm going to tell you something about prepping for shows.
How you showed me how to prep That helps a lot, man. Uh,
just the way it it, the little will you have
there and and uh, I obviously I kind of modified
it a little bit for me. Man, if you didn't
tell me that, it would have been a lot harder.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So, and anybody you see on TV radio, online, any
kind of podcasts that seem to know what they're talking about,
you're like, how did they do that? I guarantee you
they're putting the work in behind the scenes. You have
to unless you're just a genius, and I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
You know what I have respect to is you do
your own stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Guys like Hannity and all those they have a team
doing that for them and they know what they're going
to say, and they have a process with it too.
But but you do it yourself and that means a lot, man.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, I'll get a lot of prep work from Agent
Squire's Ryan Nigel, brings in articles and does audios.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
So yeah, he's a man.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Thank you everybody that help right on.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Man, Well, Trev, thanks for coming in. I can't wait
to read your book.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It's like you just complimented the quarterback and he goes, no,
I need to think the wide receivers and my offensive line.
That's that's what I felt like, because it's all part
of it. It really truly is, and it's good work
here with you guys. So God bless both of you
and what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Trav again, Man, thanks for coming in. We love you man,
and just keep doing what you're doing. Man, it's your fighting,
a good fight, just like everybody else here at Power Talk.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
God bless thanks guys until next week. God bless you,
and God bless America.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Thanks folks, good things, God blessed. Thanks for having us
into your home.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
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Speaker 4 (00:45):
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Speaker 5 (00:50):
Thanks for having me in, folks.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
We are getting right to the chase. We have Trevor
Carrey in here today. If you don't know who Trevor
Carrey is, you're living in a box somewhere. He is,
he has He's right here. On Power Talk every Monday
through Friday from three pm to six pm. Trevor, how
you doing, buddy.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Guys, thanks for having me in here. This is the
first time ever I've been interviewed on the radio. I
B ninety five did a podcast few years ago.
Speaker 6 (01:16):
He interviewed me.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
But this is it, man, Thank you. It's so weird
to be on this side looking at you over there
in the seat I'm normally in.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Well, bro, We're always talking on the phone, and you
know what do we always say to each other? Man,
we look down the phone. Man, We've been on for
like twenty five minutes forty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I said, this is the kind of phone conversations you
have in your first date and a girl. You'll ask
a guy, You'll talk for a long time, but then
you suddenly get down to hey, I gotta go it you.
Speaker 6 (01:41):
Yeah, we do it all the time.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
I want to know.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
I want to tell everybody out there too.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
This is the first time I've ever did a show
without any anything pre done. I just I wanted to
come in and talk to Trevor like we talk on
the phone.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Man. He's saying, you were counting on me to fill
up this thirty minutes.
Speaker 6 (01:57):
Well, you know, I'm going to here.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Pay were in front of you, and I'm looking at
what I got in front of me.
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And I have who's been doing this longer?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Well, I have Joe by Nightas I got to write
some things down.
Speaker 6 (02:10):
That's funny. I did that too.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
The first thing that says is write stuff on paper,
and that's all I've got. I've gotten that for.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Hey, you know what, buddy, we were talking and you
said you were doing something and I was super curious,
and we talked about it more and more, and you
said you wanted to kind of talk about it today.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
This is like October of last year. I've been writing
my book. It was going to be called When Flags Cry.
It was gonna have the Flag Crying. It was going
to be but I started writing when I got into
talking to that, and I kept writing and I just
kept writing about my life. And I was talking to Jody,
I don't know, October November last year, and I was
telling him. He goes, I go, it's man, I've just
(02:50):
been all over the place. When I go back and
chronicle my life and he goes, hey, should name of
the book. Then that's it. It's all over the place
Thanky Jody, your name in the book. My oldest son said,
write a book. My neighbor said, write a book. And
when people tell you that, and it's kind of been
in the back of your mind to sit down and
do you know, like getting my sprinklers fixed in the
(03:11):
backyard for four years, it hasn't gotten done. The things
that we put off and procrastinate, Frank Jody one of
the hardest things I've ever done, because I could only
really do it on Saturday Sunday afternoons, right because Monday
through Friday I thought I could write. When I got
home to night, I was just too white. But the
discipline that it takes to go sit down in anybody
that's even written an instruction pamphlet, I'm impressed by authors
(03:34):
now and the I mean, just the discipline it takes.
Because there were so many Saturdays, well, I'd rather gone
eating some pancakes and gone to a thirst store and
just hung out and watched YouTube that afternoon, laid on
the couch. But forcing yourself to write and having to
go back. We all have bad memories about our lives.
We all have good memories about our lives, but having
the chronicle so many that weren't real positive. Wasn't a
(03:57):
fun thing to wake up on a Saturday at six
thirty and go down and say start at seven.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
That's like cleaning out your closet, not something you really
always want to do.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, it's like calling up a mediator at divorce core going.
Can you just refresh me about everything that? That wouldn't
be a good call? Now? What negative?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
My biggest question to you right now, bro, is this
what made you want to write a book?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
My son saying rite your life, and my neighbor's saying,
write your life. And we all have I tell you know,
like VH one behind the Music, they take famous people
and slow down the video and play slow music. You
could take anybody sitting in traffic's life and put a
VH one behind their life story to it. We all
have one. And mine really started out in radio where
(04:42):
we're sitting here right now. My love for this. My
dad was a news director. You see his picture right
back behind you. They're the wpad car. Oh wow, And I.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Thought that was a cop. Every time I look at that,
I always like now that police Department's dad.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
In nineteen seventy one, my first memory was the seventy
two Olympics, listening to my dad on the radio with
my mom in the car, and my dad was saying
terrorist gorillas have taken over the Olympic compound. And I'm
listening and I'm like, oh, how can gorillas take you know,
Planet of the Apes, you know or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
that was my first memory hearing my dad on the
radio because I couldn't understand how gorillas could shoot people,
(05:17):
and he got explained to me. My first commercial was
age of ten. He was a general manager in Waco, Texas,
and I was a kid in a circus commercial saying
the old man was thinking back to when he was
a kid, and I was that voice. I would sit
at home in my radio just waiting for that commercial
to come on to hear myself, wow, and so the
bug bit might my dad provided that.
Speaker 4 (05:38):
That's amazing, that's awesome, that's cool. And what was your
what was your fun I mean, out of all the
chapters in your book, what do you think was the
funnest one to write? Like the one you're thinking, oh,
this is fun, because like you said, it was kind
of hard.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Well, I think some of the funniest it wasn't fun
at the time, but it's kind of funny now, you
know how you can look back at life like that
after doing radio and I have to close my eyes. Here,
let me give you the all the radio stops. Let
me see, let me think here, Ridgecrest, Chico, Marysville, Santa Rosa, Colorado, Springs,
(06:13):
Rent Reno, Fresno. In ninety two, let's see unemployment Kansas City,
San Jose, Phoenix. And then in ninety five, I as
a music director and program director in radio. I get
to know record people, so they're like, hey, be a
good record guy. I was twenty nine. I was tired
of answering the request lines, Hi, can you play? You
know you? Kind of I feel like I was growing up.
(06:34):
I was married, had kids, and so I took a
job in LA working for Sony West Coast. And this
is the funny story. I almost lost my job in
the first six months and I failed upwards. Have you
ever heard of that happening? You've heard that? Right? Yeah,
all right here. It wasn't funny then, but it's funny now.
Bone Thongs at Harmony had a song on their album
(06:56):
called the Crossroads, and they put it out and then
there were a DJ DJ Unique that remixed the song
and they mailed it out to all the record reps
on a white cassette with bone remix written in black.
Marker came to me. So I'm hanging out that weekend
with the music director of Power one oh six. He
used to be my intern in San Jose, so we
(07:16):
were friends with Our families knew each other, our kids
knew each other. I'm sitting in the car playing this
for him and he goes, I love this song, and
he took it upstairs to Power one oh six immediately
carded it up and put it on the air on
a Saturday, and they played it Saturday and Sunday. I'm
new to the game. There's an urban department that ran
the beat in LA totally different department. It was uh yeah,
(07:38):
we had uh we had a Jim Crow lass. You know,
we had white and black urban and pop. So that
station across town, in the second largest media market did yeah, yeah, yeah,
they didn't have that song, and they're hearing their competitor
blow it up all weekend.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
What the heck?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I got calls on Sunday, What did you dude? That
was a white cascent for you to listen to Lord,
I'm like, okay, tell my wife, well, I probably won't
have a job on Monday. They're seeing they're sending cease
and desist letters and they're ignoring it, acting like nobody's
in the building. And then on Monday I got sent
out to everybody. And guess what happened. That song was
the quickest rise to number one since the Beatles in
(08:19):
nineteen sixty four. It stayed at number one for eight weeks.
And guess what When that happens, everybody forgets what I did. Yeah,
and God, and within the year I was I went
to National in New York, so I failed upwards.
Speaker 6 (08:32):
It's Lord, you have been all over the place, all.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Over the place, literally, Yeah, and I loved the last
ten years of being grounded and rooted.
Speaker 5 (08:41):
Did you ever get tired of playing that same song
that everybody requests?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Eat Kokomo cam On, Trudy MoMA, I just have.
Speaker 6 (08:52):
That on here.
Speaker 5 (08:53):
Oh my gosh. But did you have a favorite song
one that you liked? I wish somebody would ask for
this one.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Yeah, they all blur. I'm a good Goodall's fan. That's
why it's part of my song intro there. But the
thing is, I don't play an instrument. I kind of
taught myself to play the drums. I know a few
chords on a guitar, but I would never play in
front of anybody. I can't sing, even though I was
in a choir Millie vanillaiing at once faking it. I
did that to meet women girls when I was a teenager.
But I've always loved music, and being in music was
(09:21):
just it really was fun. Now it got to the
point I didn't like the music that I was promoting.
It wasn't it wasn't good for.
Speaker 6 (09:28):
You to handle that.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I quit.
Speaker 6 (09:32):
Well, that's one way to handle it.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
Can I tell you the story?
Speaker 6 (09:35):
Absolutely?
Speaker 3 (09:36):
After I left Sony, I became an independent and so
I can make more money. I worked for every label,
getting records played across the country. We moved to Elk Grove.
My eight year old son at the time is now
thirty and just got out of the Air Force. He
rides upon his bike and goes, Dad, don't bow those
CDs away. I was cleaned out my truck promo crap
that I'd never we shielded them from it.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
I know, young man, if you're out there listening to
your dad right now. Thank you for your service, buddy.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Yes, yes, and he rides up and he goes, don't tell
them see these way. I'm like, it's not good music, Dom.
Why did they send them to you, dad? Why did
somebody send you music that's not good? He wanted to know,
and I was like, well, that's the reason you have
your bike and a roof over your head. I promote
this crap to other people's kids and shield you from it.
I didn't say that. I went, uh, go ride your bike.
(10:20):
I was a hypocrite. It hit me hard, and it
hit me for months, and talking to my parents, to
a pastor that imagine talking to a pastor that looks
and talks like Martin Luther King, you'd have to believe it. Now, Treva,
is it evil? Yes or no? I mean he was
that direct and I'm like yeah, and he's like, then quit.
I'm like, no, I'm gonna slowly quit. I have to
(10:42):
slowly quit. And I over a few months, I made
the calls to a lot of upset people, and Wow
walked away and said I want to try newstalk.
Speaker 4 (10:51):
Wow, And then you just got in the news talk.
And that's how you got into news.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Talk walking away, Wow, Wow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
What he always told is a kid, don't quit. Always
have a job first, then you quit, right Yeah, but
so but I mean, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
When you realize you're driving the truck full of drugs
up from the border, acting like you get out and
get money and you don't know what's in the back,
that's kind of what I felt like.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
I totally get it.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah. I need to love what I do.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
And one thing I always tell my customers is and
you have customers a lot more than we do, for sure.
If you hire me, you get all of my love,
all of my heart, every bit of me. If I
can't bring it all, then you're just getting a hollered
out lobster tail. I'm just the walking wounded and I
can't do that. I totally respect. That must have been terrifying, though,
(11:40):
having a wife, kids, housing to pay for, and all
of a sudden we're going to take our source of
income and get rid of it. What did you have
any I'm sure all this ran through your mind.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Ran through my mind. It was all over the place
for a long time, Like, God, this is what you
wanted me to do. Where's the blessing? Where is it?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You show me where are you God? I thought, you know,
I said I was doing this because it wasn't right
for you. I wanted to do something you wanted me
to do. But a lot of times you make that choice,
we think the bushing's going to come immediately. There can
be some times in the desert like Moses right right?
Speaker 4 (12:11):
What do we always say though, Well, everybody always says
it because it's absolutely true.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
We work on God's time. He don't work on ours.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
And I am a big believer in you know, God
has everything planned out for us.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
We need to stop being clock setters.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Exactly, man. And it's it's just when something happens. I
know in my life, sometimes it's not the way I
wanted it to, but it does happen, you know, whether
I like it or not. You know, I pray to
God and I say, you know, please let me see
you know the path here.
Speaker 6 (12:45):
He shows me the path.
Speaker 4 (12:46):
It might not be the one I wanted, but in
the end it's the one I needed. And I believe
that sounds like could happen to you too, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Well, all over the place was a journey, and I
know there's times I jumped off the boat and got
out of odds plan. Yeah, but when you get back
on he's still moving.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
This is so much fun.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Thank you for coming in, and we are going to
finish this up after the break and we'll be back
on the Jody Jumpshow on Power Talk ninety six seven
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Speaker 4 (15:02):
Hey, guys, we are back on the Jody Jones Show.
We have Trevor Carey in here and we have been
talking some good stuff. He has a book that's coming
out and we are super excited and we got some
more stories he wants to share.
Speaker 3 (15:16):
It's called all over the place, from hip hop to
talk radio.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
Right on.
Speaker 5 (15:20):
I'm noticing one of your chapters says got a minute,
I've got a really bad idea. Expand on that. That's
kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Why don't you kick the worst one in the book?
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Man?
Speaker 3 (15:31):
I got this great job in New York. We got
three kids. We live in Connecticut. I got a town
car service that picks you up after eight if you're
in the city. American Music Awards, on the road with artists,
never seeing my kids. I come home so late at night,
and I said, I was, you know, taking them for
interviews around the country. Difference and I would in the
(15:52):
I always wanted to be on the air when I
was in there. I radio wasn't out of me. So
this consultant said, hey, I got a job back in
California programming a radio station. You can get in a year.
We'll get you back to a bigger market if you
want to come back to radio, and I was like, yes.
It was cold in New York, the subways, all of that.
So I came out for the interview. Rented a car
(16:12):
record company and they always want you to get something nice,
so they do, they tell you get something nice. I'm
getting the convertible. So it was like seventy five out
here in the spring and I'm driving from Sacramento down
to Stockton. Station was in stock and k Win Stockton Modesto,
and I thought, okay, back to California. The wife wanted
to come back, so I come in. I go, hey,
(16:34):
I got a really bad idea. You got a minute
because I fast forwarded to about a month later when
we moved back out. I left the company, got back
into radio. They're all in the hotel. I'm getting a
pizza at some strip mall in Stockton. Trash everywhere, the
cars that go boom boom going by. I'm holding this
pizza and I went, what did you do? You needed
(16:57):
a vacation? You need that's all it was. You overreacted
and moved back. So that was when I realized that
wasn't a good.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
Idea, Like a light bulb, come on, huh.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
But it ended up leading to talk radio.
Speaker 6 (17:10):
Wow.
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Wow, what year was it that you morphed into talk radio?
Speaker 3 (17:14):
That was two thousand and four. I had well the
whole year two thousand and four. I was went through
a divorce. She divorced after I left the record. All
that stuff. Me huh, I'm not that's in the book,
but we don't need to bring that up right now.
But yeah, read the book for all the depressing stuff.
But I had gone back. We'd gone back to Colorado.
My parents are there, her parents were there. I was
(17:35):
working at Alisento five nine in Denver doing making demos.
I mean from midnight. The morning show would sometimes kick
me out at five am. They had to be in
there is the only time I could get in the
production room. And it had all gone to computers and
that times inside left. So there's a production director there
that goes, I'll train you. And by the way, I
used to be a news talk program director. Look how
(17:56):
God provided that. And then much time the demos out
for a year getting nothing. Dude in Baker shild goes,
you want to do a night show. Maybe I'm gonna
look for the budget. I said, yeah. He didn't find
the budget, but it just so happened. He was on
a call with the guy in Colorado and the guy
in baker Shield goes, there's a guy in Denver that
looking for a talk show.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
So, to make a long story real long, I call him.
We meet up and he goes ten at night to
one in the morning, barter, you can have a couple
of commercials. And at that same time, that ally station
offered me a full time job that paid well with
Benefit's all this, and I went, now I'm gonna go
try talk. So it started at ten at night till
one in the morning in Greeley, Colorado. And that guy
(18:40):
that helped me get that job from Bakersfield is now
the program director of our competition here in town. Yeah. Yeah,
So I was on in Colorado and then he put
me on out in Bakersfield at night. But it was
all barter chicken for a bag of grain.
Speaker 5 (18:57):
To middle of the night on talk radio.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
We're not saying nothing. Well, no, it was. It was
a hard boogie. It was. But God provide. Hey, this
is during the housing crisis. You know this your builder.
I said, Okay, I have eight commercials during the day,
I can also sell. So I went to this builder
and said, let me run. You got empty houses, I
got empty commercials. Let's advertise. He goes, here's three keys,
(19:20):
the three subdivisions, go out and pick out what house
you want. I was like, God, I guess you want
this happen man? Look you provided.
Speaker 6 (19:28):
Wow, that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
That was something.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Hey, you know we you've told me a story about
I'm just going to say blue jeans.
Speaker 6 (19:36):
I think New.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Kids on the Block, Yeah, I told you. This is
nineteen eighty seven. Santa Roza Richard Marx was there and
they had an opening band called the New Kids on
the Block that had one hit. And we were backstage
and the youngest one I don't remember his name now,
but he's asking.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, little Joe Joe.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
But he's backstage and he's like, does he may have
an iron? And I'm like no. So he goes, anybody
have a razor blade? And you know it's radio and records.
Back then, everybody carried one in their wallet. So somebody
had a razor blade for it and they I saw
this little boy go there and cut his jeans up,
and I'm like, what is he doing? He cut them
(20:17):
up instead of making them look wrinkled and went out
on stage. We cut up jeans and then like years
later I started to see people wearing them and I
took off. I said, maybe I saw how that churing
got started. Wow, if I'd had an iron, it would
have never I'd never taken off.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
I loved that story.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Hey, you know what, Trevor, you were talking about how
you got started and you're the reason I got started.
I mean the way God works. You know, remember when
we were at the same we were both talking at
the down in Exeter, South Valley, the Republican Women's You
go on first, then I go on, and I remember
looking at you and you're watching me, and then you
(20:53):
come in, and afterwards you told me, hey, will you
come on my show and tell your brother's story. I'm like, yeah, absolutely.
So after that, you called me about a week later
and you said, hey, have you ever thought about going
on the radio having a radio show. I'm like, no, nope.
So well you told me you should think about it
because I think you'll do very well. I'm like, okay.
(21:15):
So you and I started, you know, doing this, and
I remember going to your house and I remember walking
out of the house going man, I let him down,
so I'm going, oh god, but you know it ended up.
We come and we have a meeting with the iHeart guys.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Here.
Speaker 4 (21:30):
He sits down and goes, hey, Jody, do you have
a CD of your podcast. I'm like, no, man, I
don't have him goes, do you have any experience? Nope?
And he looks at you and You're like, uh, I'll
have him ready. And man, that's all it took for
Trevor to say I'll have him ready. He jumped you
know yeah, and I'll never forget it. He turned in
(21:52):
and looked at me and he said, tell me about
yourself and I and I told him, you know my story,
and he said, you're going to fit in the station perfect.
Speaker 6 (22:00):
You know.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
We walked out and I remember you saying, hey, man,
you know you're gonna do fine. And I remember thinking
to myself, I can't let Trevor down. But you know what,
in reality, I couldn't let myself down and my brother
because I'm doing this for my brother and that's why
I'm in the radio, That's why I'm doing what I
do to inform people what's really trying to you know,
(22:23):
what's really going on. And uh, I like giving my opinion,
you know, and I found something that I like. And
you know, like you were talking about, you know, the
guys working at your competitor and stuff like that, you're
the guy that started me and and I thank you
for that, Trevor.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
Oh hey, you guys have done a great job. And
he's filled in for me and not it's on vacation.
I was truly impressed.
Speaker 5 (22:47):
I listened to You're too kind that that was a
lot of worse I was.
Speaker 6 (22:50):
I had no idea how tough.
Speaker 5 (22:51):
That was gonna be, and you do it every darn day.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
I have nothing but respect.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
Brother.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
Yeah, you know, if you don't, if you've never did
this kind of work, then you don't know. But I'm
going to tell you guys, it's a lot of prep.
And Trevor is one of a kind man. I've seen
him prep for his shows and it's professionalism all the
way around. And I thank you for you know, showing
me a lot of it too. So all right, and
(23:18):
hopefully it showed up. You know when when we did
fill in for you, I told Frank, I was like, dude,
this is a lot. So we prepped like the day
before the day out.
Speaker 5 (23:28):
Well imagine doing this show that we're doing this afternoon
six times?
Speaker 6 (23:33):
Dude, it was five. Trevor was fresh. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
The first day we did it, We're like okay, because
we're all pumped, you know, And then I remember you
call me, Hey, are you tired, and I'm like, no,
I feel pretty good.
Speaker 6 (23:42):
The second day.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
I was like, oh, and I met We drove off
and freaked like, dude, I'm spent. I'm like, yeah, I go.
Can you imagine doing this is five days a week?
Speaker 3 (23:54):
He's like, Wow, it's Saturday and I'm tired right now,
so can we end this? Come on? You know, I'm
just being serious. I can't kidding. Hey, thank you, thank
you so much for having me in. And it's the
first time I've announced all over the place the book
would be out in the fall that Jodie Jones Well
basically said name it what you just blurted out loud,
(24:14):
So you you told me what to name it.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
People don't really realize how tough writing the book is.
And because not just writing a book, right.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
Well, writing the books an easy part. QR codes and
UPC codes and taxes and all I gotta go for help.
Speaker 5 (24:27):
But now, when you write a book, do you use
a pencil and paper, pen and paper and write a
book or is it all done on your phone? Done
on a computer?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
How do you die?
Speaker 6 (24:35):
All right?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
On the laptop? Microsoftware Times New Roman twelve?
Speaker 6 (24:39):
Okay twelve? Fun real quick before we have to go in.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I got about a minute and a half here, but
I'm going to tell you something about prepping for shows.
How you showed me how to prep That helps a lot, man. Uh,
just the way it it, the little will you have
there and and uh, I obviously I kind of modified
it a little bit for me. Man, if you didn't
tell me that, it would have been a lot harder.
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
So, and anybody you see on TV radio, online, any
kind of podcasts that seem to know what they're talking about,
you're like, how did they do that? I guarantee you
they're putting the work in behind the scenes. You have
to unless you're just a genius, and I'm not.
Speaker 4 (25:18):
You know what I have respect to is you do
your own stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Guys like Hannity and all those they have a team
doing that for them and they know what they're going
to say, and they have a process with it too.
But but you do it yourself and that means a lot, man.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
Well, I'll get a lot of prep work from Agent
Squire's Ryan Nigel, brings in articles and does audios.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
So yeah, he's a man.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Thank you everybody that help right on.
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Man, Well, Trev, thanks for coming in. I can't wait
to read your book.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
Man.
Speaker 3 (25:49):
It's like you just complimented the quarterback and he goes, no,
I need to think the wide receivers and my offensive line.
That's that's what I felt like, because it's all part
of it. It really truly is, and it's good work
here with you guys. So God bless both of you
and what you're doing.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
Trav again, Man, thanks for coming in. We love you man,
and just keep doing what you're doing. Man, it's your fighting,
a good fight, just like everybody else here at Power Talk.
Speaker 6 (26:13):
Man.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
God bless thanks guys until next week. God bless you,
and God bless America.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Thanks folks, good things, God blessed. Thanks for having us
into your home.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
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