The Urban Industrial Complex & Meet Turning Point USA's Madison Mueller

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This is the Jody Jones Show on FOURTOG ninety six
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey everyone, thanks for joining us on the Jody Jones Show.
I have in studio with me as always Frank van Landingham.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
Hey guys, what's going on?

Speaker 3 (00:52):
Hey today, We're going to have a guest come in
on the second part of our show. Her name is
Madison mu Or. She's from Turning Point Us, a wonderful
young lady and you're gonna enjoy her story. But right
now we're going to talk about the urban industrial complex,
the journey back to bondage. Yeah sounds girls, don't it.

Speaker 5 (01:13):
I don't want to go to.

Speaker 3 (01:16):
But you know what, that's kind of where we were heading.
And President Trump came in and he's trying to turn
this around. He's trying to turn that boat, you know,
the Titanic around and it is turning slowly, which boats do,
but he is turning it and a lot of resistance.
But you got to think about this. You got to

(01:37):
ask yourself who's saying what and what they're saying. Do
a deep dive into what these democrat liberals are telling
you and trying to make you think we are taking
their cash cow away from them. And what I mean
by that, it's our money, it's our money, it's a
taxpayer money. They don't want that one.

Speaker 4 (01:58):
Hundred percent, Right, Jody, you touched on the urban industrial complex,
and I believe all of this is pretty much all
of the problems we have right now are symptomatic of
a deeper problem. The deeper problem is that we've left
the garden of Eden. It has been turned into an
urban jungle. It's agendas, Oh totally is totally is you've

(02:21):
heard of the military industrial complex. I mean LBJ talked
about that, and we've heard Ike talk about it, the
prison industrial complex. There is an urban industrial complex and
it's it is a journey back into bondage. If you
think about it, everything from your housing, transportation, food, water,

(02:41):
your jobs, free benefits, communication, your energy that you use
is all being given to monopolies that quote unquote serve you.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
And here they put you in bondages. What they do, oh,
they totally did. They want you dependent, not independent.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Absolutely, And this this is all from the time we
started our industrial revolution and we left the farm, we
left the little village, the shire, or the hamlet, whatever
you want to call it. The minute we left that
and came into the city, we created an unnatural situation.
In that unnatural situation, you need unnatural means and methods

(03:20):
to keep you alive, which means now we have to
artificially bring in water. And that could be via aqueducts,
it could be water storage or something like that. But
you never you don't go down to the river anymore
and gather a pail of water. Now it gets delivered,
your sewage gets pumped out, your power gets brought in.
Your food must be done in a factory setting, so

(03:41):
you're going to get chemicals, preservatives, all of this, and
this is all because of You cannot exist in a
major metropolitan area without this.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
You will own nothing and you will like it. Yes
you will, right, Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
You aid literally said that you will think you're happy,
and that's they will make you think you're happy. I
can totally see why big cities would go blue because
you've already broken these people. You've got these people like
a like like like a bridle horse. You've broken them,
and now they are going to do what you tell

(04:17):
them to. You'll do what they say. You'll vote the
way you say, you'll think the way they say, you'll live,
the way they say. Your very survival depends on you
doing what they say.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, think about it, thinking about it. During the pandemic
in Michigan and their governor Gritton, oh w oh, yeah,
she went to the extent of saying you cannot grow
a garden in your backyard because of COVID. Really what
did that didn't even make sense. They didn't want people
going out and buying seeds to grow tomatoes, you name it.

(04:52):
They were like they actually said it was against the
law at that time to do that, right, and they
what they use, they use the the medical emergency. Basically,
it's just it's absolutely insane what these people are doing.
And I'm telling you, guys, it's changing because of President Trump.
You can like him, you can whatever. TDS is an

(05:13):
absolute real thing. Trump deranged syndrome is absolutely real because
no matter what he does, it's the wrong thing. And
he's doing because he's a monarch. Are you kidding me? No,
he's been a president and he's actually fallen following the
law written by our forefathers on how it's really supposed

(05:34):
to be. It's supposed to be for the people. Remember
that little thing that was, you know, written by the
people for the people. Do you remember that once upon
a time, once upon a time.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, But those were all old white guys, And so honestly,
it really doesn't matter whatever Trump does. These people just
want to do the opposite, not because there's any cogent
thought process going on, but simply because it's just like
knee jerk, do the opposite reaction. And I wish to
god it was based on some sort of means methods

(06:07):
thought process. If you could say to me, well, I
don't want to do that because dot dot DT instead
of Trump said it.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
It's bad.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
You know, when you go vote, guys, your very survival
is going to depend on that, because if you remember
Trump's last turn, we had the House, we had the Senate. Okay,
granted that a lot of Republicans weren't on board with
him in his first term, but they are now. So

(06:34):
we have to keep the House and the Senate. It's
vital to what is going on here. We have to
get out and we have to vote. We can't say hey,
we want yeah and run off, you know in the
sunset and you know, screaming and waving our hands and
going hey we want we want to know. We have
to keep the metal of the pedal because I guarantee
you the Democrats and the left wing, crazy crazy crazies

(07:00):
they're loading up right now. We can't let that happen.

Speaker 4 (07:04):
You're right, we cannot stay in this endless loop of
we've won, we've won. I mean, this is not Los
Angeles where we're going to burn the place down because
the Lakers won. This is where we take a step
back and say, what did we do right? What did
we do wrong. How do we navigate from right here?
How do we go forward?

Speaker 3 (07:21):
The Democrats know they've been broken, they know it, they
know what I'm telling you right now. That's why they're
reloading right now. And we have to get ready for
the brunt of that storm because it's coming, and right
now we have all the momentum. We got to keep
the momentum going. We have to keep our nose to
the grindstone, the metal to the pedal, whatever you want

(07:43):
to call it. We have to guys, this is not
a time to be gutless. This is not a time,
like last time, to try to have it both ways.
You see, last time we had people that thought they
could harness the energy of Trump but put their own
spin on it and do it in such a way
that they carved out a fiefdom.

Speaker 4 (08:00):
Now you get in line, you line up, you support
this cause it's like a football game. We all run
the ball that way.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
Yeah. Hey, when we come back from break, we're going
to introduce you to Madison Mueller, to the simple valid
representative for Charlie Kirk's turning point USA.

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Speaker 3 (10:26):
I have in studio a guest that I want you
all to get to know here. Her name is Madison
Mueller and she's from Turning Point, USA. And everybody knows
who that is, right, Turning Point USA. Charlie Kirk, Madison,
thank you for joining us today.

Speaker 5 (10:42):
Thank you. It's an absolute pleasure to be here. And
if you guys don't know what Turning Point USA is,
you're going to want to wow.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Can I call you Maddie or deal?

Speaker 5 (10:49):
Absolutely Madison when I'm in trouble?

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Okay, So Maddie, I want everybody you know I we
met the other night at Exeter at the Republican meetings
that had there. Yeah, so that was super nice. I
heard your story. I thought I got to have you
on the radio. I want more people to hear your story.

(11:11):
So tell us about yourself, tell us how you come
to you know, come in contact with Charlie Kirk and
Turning Point USA.

Speaker 5 (11:20):
Absolutely.

Speaker 6 (11:21):
So.

Speaker 5 (11:22):
In order to understand how I got here, you have
to know where I came from. Right So, politically, I've
been involved for about six years. I got my start
actually right here in the valley. I went to Clovis
North High School, and at the time, I was being
challenged by the campus because I was wearing a Make
America Grade Again hat, and so they started to require

(11:44):
me to go to student services every.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Day challenged in what way explain that to everyone?

Speaker 5 (11:49):
I was being told that if I wore the hat
on campus so that I was going to be sent home,
that I was quote unquote inciting violence just for wearing
a hat, just for wearing a hat.

Speaker 4 (11:58):
Was this a written policy or somebody's thought.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
It was not a written policy. I'll put that very explicitly.
It was not there. There is a policy now that
some people have coined the Muller clause because of me.
So I guess I'm kind of famous at NORN. But
so I ended up having to solely me go to

(12:22):
student services every morning. They would have to approve my outfits.
If I refused to comply, they would try to in
school suspend me, and I said, great, I don't want
to be in class. But from there I started to
get more involved in local conservative groups here around the

(12:43):
valley and kind of started to lean in deeper to
the beliefs my parents had raised me with. I was
raised in a wonderful Christian conservative household. But that goes
back even further in my story. So I'm going to
kind of share part of what I said in Exeter. Yes,
perfect within turning point. I always tell my students that
they need to know their why, and they need to

(13:05):
know their reasons for what they believe in. It must
be deeper than Oh I saw this on TikTok and
social media. Oh I heard a politician say these buzzwords,
and that made me like them. It has to be
rooted in something personal in order to have a firm
stance that people can't shake. So I always try to
share my why. I was ordained by Christ and saved

(13:31):
before I was ever born to be part of this mission.
And that is a huge claim, I know. But I'm adopted.
I was adopted at three months old and I've been
with the Mealers ever since. I will never be anything
but a Mealer until November when I get married.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
But congratulation real quick to tell everyone how that happened
with absolutely yes.

Speaker 5 (13:54):
So my why is, like I said, I was saved
by Christ to do this the Lord's work. And my
birth mother was sixteen years old and she was sitting
in a Planned Parenthood for her abortion appointment, and she
was I'm sure very nervous. She was grappling with this decision,

(14:17):
but she felt like she was doing what was right
for her. So they bring her back. They bring her
to the checkroom. They placed the probe inside of her
to check on me before the procedure, and by God's grace,
they forgot to turn the volume off on the heart
rate monitor and she heard this noise. Questioned what it was,

(14:38):
and it was her first time hearing my heartbeat. And
when they told her that that was the quote unquote
fetus heartbeat, she broke down. She said, I can't do this,
and she walked out of Planned Parenthood.

Speaker 3 (14:58):
So that's what I want to have ever here. Every
time I hear it, I've heard it twice now and
it brings tears in my eyes both times.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
It's it's that is my why I was born into
the pro life army. I will never promote anything but
God saved me in the womb and because of that
gift of life, which it is a gift, it's a
precious gift. I live every day of my life now

(15:29):
doing things that honor him.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Wow, that's heavy, it's you know, If that don't bring
tears to your eyes, nothing will. So now you guys
can understand why I wanted her on. I wanted her on.
I wanted to tell everyone her story. And and you
really have to fight for what you believe in, you know,
and and we know that when you fight for something,

(15:57):
the person that fights the hardest is is the person
that has the why, not just because they heard something
or they're you know, doing something for somebody else, but
they're really doing it within them and what they believe in.
You know, that's throughout history. If you look at you know,
everyone that's every fought any kind of battle, and you

(16:19):
pull them out and you separate them and you identify them,
they have that they have a story that sets them
apart from everybody else. And just like with my why,
why do I do this? It's because my brother. My
brother was murdered by an illegal criminal alien. So that's
my why. You know, everybody has their own why, and

(16:41):
you know it's it's really refreshing. Madisone to see somebody
like you. Sorry, just when I talk about stuff like this,
my brother really gets me.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
These are beautiful things. I'm nothing but impressed by both
of you and when we come in to do the show, Jody,
to be a part of your why is huge. To
listen to your why is awe inspiring. And I guess
my why is to be around giants like you guys,

(17:13):
and to simply be a ride along and to be
in the same room with two amazing human beings. I
want to thank both of you. Let me ask you
a question about turning point. We spoke personally with Charlie
Kirk in an investors meeting and asked him directly, when
will you be putting more resources into California? Now? I

(17:37):
understand to preface this whole thing at the time, we
are in a national contest, and to simply squander resources
into California at a point where our resources were better
spent elsewhere made complete and total sense. But I think
we've passed that turning point. We're at a new turning point.

(17:58):
And the turning point I see is here in California.
This is a target rich environment. And so what do
you see in the future for turning point and as
it relates to California and more specifically to the Central Valley.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Absolutely, I think our richest resources are actually the students
that are right here. At home. They're the kids that
I'm identifying, empowering recruiting every day. Just in the last
two weeks, we've seen over four hundred students get involved
in the mission across the Central Valley, which with turning point,

(18:33):
the Central Valley territory is from Santa Maria to San
Luis Obispo. So Fresno is kind of right smack dab
the heart of the mission. So we've been granted two
incredible speakers that are going to be coming to the
Central Valley and for Fresno State, it's the first time
in several years they've received a speaker.

Speaker 3 (18:53):
And who is that.

Speaker 5 (18:54):
We are bringing Chloe Cole to do a pretty wrong
So she's going.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
To be We had coffee with her, yeah, we did.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
She's wonderful and I love that she's from the Central
Valley too, So it's just my hometown.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Once upon a time I lived in Santa Maury and she.

Speaker 3 (19:09):
Was right there, Isn't she wonderful?

Speaker 4 (19:11):
She's very kind, very decent, like yourself. You conservative ladies
call me old fashion, but you gals, guys. Whatever she
hymns seemed to radiate like please assume.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
My pronouns please, Yeah, right, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
You guys radiate a goodness. Yeah, you guys radiate positivity
and an energy like no other. And thanks for letting
me be within ten feet of it, because it's warm
and fuzzy and it's great.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
You know, I want to I'm back. I got the
crying out of me. Sorry, guys, but it just gets me.

Speaker 4 (19:46):
Your Messcara is running.

Speaker 3 (19:47):
So yeah. Right, So you know the thing about it is,
you know, Charlie, hopefully he sees now that you know
we did make that turn. California's ripe. It's like like
I said earlier when we were talking, it's a fruit.
It's ready to be picked. Absolutely in California is just
just waiting, waiting to turn red. You know. Do we

(20:09):
still have the la the San Francisco And of course
we do. However, this is the turning point. California is
the turning point. And I hope he sees that now,
and with wonderful people like you, I think he will
start and seeing the movement that you guys are creating
here in California. It's already here. It's just people like

(20:31):
you getting on these campuses, fighting for the conservative values
in the American way of life. That's what we need.
That's the turning point.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
Absolutely. And you know I said when I got hired
that I'm not here to create conservative robots. But at
the same time, through exposure to people like me and
the students, I've been able to identify within turning point
as leadership on campuses. Now we're showing all of the
other political beliefs that it's never us, that we are

(21:01):
willing to collaborate, that we are willing to understand, and
we're willing to agree to disagree.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
And this is what we're fighting. I want you to
tell the story about uc MERCEAID. Is that what it was,
absolutely So I want you to tell that story everybody
real quick.

Speaker 5 (21:13):
Absolutely. So the first time I went to Ucie Marceaid
was back in this last October, so last semester, and
I had already been to the MERSAID community level, and
it was a bit hostile and I was definitely more
like in your face turning point with our phone boards,
like I took out like the socialism sucks, big guv
suck stuff just to kind of gauge what the vibe
was going to be like, so that I was prepared

(21:34):
when I went to the four year level. So heading
up yu see. Mr said, I knew what I was
walking into. So I was like, I'm going to be
as low key as possible, and I just set up
a simple voter registration booth. We were out there for
three hours. It was just me. Students didn't fully understand
that we were turning point. They saw the logo, they

(21:55):
saw some of the like I had, like the eye
registered to vote stickers with the turning point low. So
that's kind of how they knew.

Speaker 3 (22:02):
And you read shared what about one hundred and fifty
people that day?

Speaker 5 (22:04):
I registered about one hundred and fifty and shockingly, a
little over half registered red just through talking to me.

Speaker 3 (22:12):
So and when you were loading up, what happened?

Speaker 5 (22:15):
So we packed up for the day, we being me
and myself and I all.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
Three people, all three of all three of.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
Them, all of my personalities, loaded up nice and we
were out in the parking lot. And so if you
guys have never been to U, Siemer said, it's not
a typical parking lot. It's gravel and you kind of
have to eyeball the spaces yourself and just hope that
nobody door dings you. So I'm loading up in my

(22:41):
trunk and I see this gentleman approaching from back in
the parking lot, and originally he just walked by and
kind of eyed my belongings because I had a wagon.
And he clocked the turning point logo on my simple
registered vote your sign and he pointed at it and

(23:02):
he goes, get your racist effing off of my campus,
his campus, his campus.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (23:11):
So I take full ownership in the fact that I
was not feeling.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
It that day, well knowing, knowing your story, and you're
gonna get to it. He was employed right by absolutely
it was.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
It was later to come out that he was a
part time lecturer, so he was employed by the campus.

Speaker 6 (23:29):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (23:31):
So he ended up snapping my phone board which was
my sign over his knee, snapped it in half. I
pulled out my phone and let him know I'm going
to start recording for my safety. He grabbed it out
of my hand and threw it across the parking lot
and let me know that he didn't have to take
any of this from a racist b word like me.

(23:51):
So naturally I kind of knew the flow of things
were coming. I braced and he closed fist punched me
in the right side of my cheek. Knocking me off
the ground.

Speaker 3 (24:01):
Oh lord, so fast forward the story what happened to him?
This is great.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Absolutely, he has since been All these months later, they
were able to identify who he was. He has since
been fired. And we are starting to see this movement
of instead of painting conservatives as the villains for inciting
violence air quotes around that, we are starting to see
accountability being taken for the people that are hostile towards us.

Speaker 3 (24:26):
And that is what I want you to share with everybody,
because I want everybody out there to know and understand
that it's not okay for somebody to come up to
you and put their hands on you or anything like
that for a simple reason of you know, you wanting
to give your ideas away. You know, whether it's conservative
or if it's liberal. You know it's there's no there's

(24:51):
no cause for that.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
I don't believe this happened in a vacuum. I would
believe that this is endemic of the culture of the
campus and is part of the symptom. I think the
problem runs deeper than just one deranged individual. What are
your thoughts on this?

Speaker 5 (25:07):
No, I would wholeheartedly agree, you know, especially with the
younger generations. I unfortunately am part of gen Z. I
was born in two thousand. We've started to dehumanize ourselves
and so when we look at each other, we no
longer see the individual standing before us. We see a
collage of beliefs and politicians exactly.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
And that is But the good thing is, guys, that
it is changing. And like I said earlier in the
first segment, you know, Trump, President Trump is turning the
Titanic around, but it takes time, it takes effort, which
he's giving. He's showing that he's giving the effort. And
with people like Charlie Kirk and Madison, really with like
you two, you're the boots on the ground for Charlie Kirk.

(25:51):
So you know, Having all that said, thank you very
much for coming in and sharing your why with us.
And you know, it's awesome. It's awesome to see somebody
like you doing what you're doing and keep it up.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Okay, thank you so much for your time, and thank
you as well for sharing your why.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
You're very welcome. Hey everyone out there, God bless you
and God bless America.

Speaker 4 (26:15):
Thanks folks, good things, God blessing. Thanks Maddy for hanging
out with us.

Speaker 5 (26:19):
Thank you.

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