April 23, 2025 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (04/23) - CA State Assemblyman Carl DeMaio fills in for John. Carl focuses this hour on fixing California’s broken public education system. Carl argues the pandemic exposed just how bad schools are failing students and says the only way to drive improvement is to empower parents with school choice. Carl lays out his plan to fund students over systems and make public schools compete. He’s then joined by Chino Valley School Board President and candidate for State Superintendent, Sonja Shaw, and State Assemblyman Josh Hoover to discuss how we can build a real rebellion to fix California schools from the ground up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't f I am six forty. You're listening to the
John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is Carl Demayo filling in for John Cobelt while
he's off on some much needed vacation and we've got
a lot to get to to this hour. It's about
fixing schools. We haven't heard very much controversy about California schools,
have we in a long time. Yeah, it's been very
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passionate as parents have been pretty ticked off, and they
have every right to be ticked off because the schools
have failed to students. Our students are not meeting academic
standards and parents I think during I think it was
during COVID when all the shutdowns happened and everyone had to,
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you know, have their kids go remote to school, and
they sat there while they were also told they're not
allowed to go to work, so everyone was at home
and for a few weeks, the parents kind of basically
got to go to school with their kids. They sat
there as the kids were on these computers and they
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were listening and they're like, wait, wait, I'm not hearing
a whole lot of reading, writing, and arithmetic, but I
hear a whole lot of climate change and personal pronouns.
So the parents woke up and they started asking questions.
And when they asked questions, they started finding out some
things that they weren't happy about. They and rightfully. So
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let me give you some stats that will astound you.
Per student in California, we spend twenty three thousand, five
hundred and nineteen dollars, and that's just in the California
State General Fund budget, twenty three thousand, five hundred and
nineteen dollars per student. On top of that, you have
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to add all of the property taxes and parsonal taxes
and special taxes that local government collects and spends in
each school district. So clearly we're at twenty five grand,
if not twenty six grand, twenty seven grand, twenty eight grand.
That's just in direct per pupil spending. Other states do
it for a lot less. We are spending more and
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more and more per student and getting less and less
and less. Two thirds of California's students fail math proficiencies
every year. Two thirds of California students fail math proficiencies.
Fifty one percent of California students fail reading and writing proficiencies. Now,
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when you build a system that fails two thirds of
the time or fifty one percent of the time, whether
you're looking at math or reading and writing, when you
build a system that fails most of the time, it's corrupt,
it's broken. It needs to have a tooth detail overhaul.
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It's time for receivership. Baby, it's time for investigations. Some
would argue, but instead California politicians say everything's fine, All
we need is more money. The teachers' union comes in
and says, give us the more money and keep your
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nose out of our business. These are our children, not yours.
What are we seeing made a priority in the classroom?
Not reading, writing and rhythmetic No, no, no, no. We're
seeing controversial, sex ed curriculum. We're seeing personal pronouns. We're
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seeing critical race theory, how to become a activist, how
to fight climate change in racism, if you're white, you've
got privilege and you should shut up and sit down.
You are a victimizer. Apologize to your victims. We are
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literally talking about where the nearest abortion clinic is in
our school districts. Oh yeah, I have found contracts awarded
by local school districts to Planned Parenthood to come in
and give briefings to students as to where the nearest
clinic is. I don't care where you are on the
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issue of abortion, but I think a lot of parents
would be pretty ticked off if they knew that was happening,
and no one in the liberal media wants to cover it.
I don't think any social topic should be in the classroom.
I think reading. If you can't teach a kid to
add if they can't read or write, you have no
business talking about anything else until you get the core
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job done first. So in this environment, we have a
big debate going on, and I think the debate is
kind of missing things right now. The debate is how
do we force school boards to listen to parents. Now,
I'm all for school boards listening to parents, don't get
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me wrong. I'm up and down the state of California
recruiting quality school board candidates to run as change agents,
as reform minded school board trustees, to clean up the system,
to put the kids first. It's important to have a good,
strong school board, but that it's not going to fix
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the problem quickly or as quick as a bigger reform,
and that is if you want to empower parents, you
don't empower them by hoping that you get good school
board members that listen and then make good decisions.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
How about we give.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Parents real empowerment by giving them money. It's the golden rule. Baby,
he who has the gold makes the rule. Right now,
school boards don't have to listen to parents because parents
aren't consequential. They're not in charge. What are you gonna do?
Take your child to another district. You're not rich like
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the rest of us. The chosen few, the labor union
boss most labor union bosses, they don't put their kids
in public school. No, they're wealthy enough to put them
in private school. No, no, No. The lobbyists and the
special interests in the campaign contributors who call the shots. Oh,
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they get real education choice, school choice for their kids.
They don't like the school, they take their kid out
and they pay tuition somewhere else. But most Californians do
not have the luxury of writing a check for tuition
to a private school, and so they are sentenced to
the failure of their local public school system. And I
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think there's a lot of good teachers in public schools,
well intended teachers. But it's a broken system with some
good people. The only way you fix the systemic failure
here is to give education choice. Vouchers give parents money,
and when they have money, they are empowered. Let them
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take those vouchers and take them to another public school,
private school, home school, a religious school. Whatever they want
to do, they know better. And you know what, there'll
be schools that do a great job that will then
enter the market, expand and recruit parents to bring their
vouchers and their children to their schools. That's the beauty
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of competition and choice, the free market.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But no, no, no, government says.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh, you can't trust anyone but government. Well, we've been
trusting you for decades, and you seem to really screw up.
Two thirds of the students lose a not able to
pass the proficiencies. And don't get me started about black
and brown children, because this system hurts them the most.
You want to see institutional racism, Go find me a
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Democrat controlled school district. Because black and brown students in
this failing system have the worst proficiency stats of any
ethnic group. How do we fix it? Well, the best
thing to do besides elect school board members in each
district across the state. The best thing to do is
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to elect the number one school official in the state,
which is not the governor. It's a position called the
California Superintendent of Public Instruction. It's a statewide office. Coming up,
I'm going to announce an endorsement of a candidate we
want to win. We want to see win in twenty
twenty six for California Public Superintendent of Schools.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You're gonna hear from her and I'll make my endorsement
on air, and we'll invite you to be part of
this rebellion to take back the schools from the broken
system that we've seen. It's all coming up. Carl Tomyo
filling in for John co Belt.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're listening to John coblt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Remember keep those talkback questions coming to me. The talk
back feature on the iHeartRadio app is how you submit
questions to me that we will cover in Thursday Show
and Friday Show. Any issues you want us to tackle.
Right now, we're talking about why are California school so
screwed up? Two thirds of California students failing math proficiencies,
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a majority failing reading and writing. But we're spending twenty
five grand per student. The exact number from the state
twenty three, five and nineteen dollars does not include your
local tax dollars that they charge you for. So we're
talking twenty five to thirty grand per student, more than
any other state per per student, and we're getting the
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results that we deserve. Parents are upset. One way to
fix the system, elect better school board members. Another way
to fix the system elect a very powerful position, California
Superintendent of Public Instruction. It's a statewide position. It's on
the ballot in twenty twenty six, and I am pleased
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to make an endorsement today Reform California. Our movement, myself included.
We are endorsing Sonya Shaw, who's currently a trustee of
Chino Valley Unified School District in southern California, and Sonya
joins us right now on the line. Sonya, welcome and
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thank you for running for this office. I was thrilled
when you threw your hat in the ring. First and foremost,
tell us why the superintendent of public instruction in California
that this statewide office. Tell us why this is so
important to improve quality of education in our state.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Absolutely, Carl, And first of all, thank you for everything
that you do, and thank you for that endorsement. What
a way to start this conversation. So I'm very appreciative
of that. As we know you just said, you know
that the state throws in twenty three to twenty six
thousand dollars on average per student. We're talking about an
average of one hundred and twenty billion dollars a year,
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and the results have shown over and over we're failing
our kids and reading, writing, a math because they focus
on everything else but those things. And also giving our
kids that opportunity this I give credit to my good
friend Lance Christensen, who ran last year against the machine.
He brought light to this position. I think this was
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the first time a lot of us parents had paid
attention to this position. It is a powerful position in
especially a state like California. Carl. We you know, if
getting into this position, I would oversee the budget. First
of all, we would ensure that the education is bothocused
on just that without all the ideologies thrown into the system.
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And you know, it's a big responsibility. But I'm so
glad that people are finally paying attention to the seat.
But I think it has to do with everything of
people like you, people parents, you know, getting involved in
school boards, and they've exposed the people in these seats
making these decisions, and F is an F It's time
for change.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
What I like about this position and you taking it
over is not only can you make sure the money
is properly spent and audit the money and say we
want a fun performance, not failure, but you would also
be able to get rid of all the crazy, woke, nonsense,
irrelevant social and sexual and nonsensical curriculum mandates. You could actually,
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as the superintendent of public instruction, say to the school districts, hey,
you get to decide what your curriculum is, but I'm
going to remove all these mandates of all this junk.
If you want to put them back in, talk to
your parents about that. But you could basically clear the
deck and simplify back to basics.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And you know we've done that in our own district.
I mean, despite California obviously legislating certain crazy things, we
focus back on education and the results are there. Our
test scores are increasing, families are starting to trust our
district again, And to me, I feel so guilty. That's
just happening in our community when I hear others scream
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all over and and don't get me wrong, we're still
up against the big you know, unions and the big money.
But the fact is you're right. We can clear the path,
and I think people like you and I we can
get in in the front line of that. We could
take the beating all while making sure we put the
things in place and we put the focus back on education.
Can you imagine, Carl in California, we can finally, after
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decades of it being on a road to failure, we
can put it back into success for our kids. I mean,
we know we hold the line for the rest of
the nation here in California, right and everything that happens
in California there goes the nation. It would be such
an amazing thing, and it's so doable, and I think
this is the time that we do it is now.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, you've done great work in Chino Valley Unified School
District with your reform agenda. Parents are thrilled schools are
better under your stewardship. Can't wait till you get into
this statewide position. But we got to get you there.
I know the teachers' unions can spend millions and millions
of dollars to smear you and to destroy you, and
to put their own puppet into office to continue their scam.
(14:38):
What is your website so people can learn more about
you and hopefully sign up to volunteer and even contribute.
What's the website they can go to.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That would be awesome? Www dot shaw for CA dot com.
So that's ww dot Shaw for forca dot com. And again,
this is not my campaign. This is the campaign of
parents and community members and those people that want education
to be focused on just that. I mean, I'm excited.
So yes, like Carl said, please sign up there we
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need all hands on deck.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's Shaw Shaw FOURCA dot com. Go to that website.
Be part of the effort to reform California schools. Sonya Shaw,
I'm looking forward to hitting the campaign trail with you
in twenty twenty six. Keep up the great work you
got my endorsement or Reform California Voter Guide. We'll have
you featured prominently and good luck. Coming up, we got
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to continue our conversation on schools. One of my colleagues
up here in Sacramento, Josh Hoover, former school board member,
is doing some great work with some legislative proposals to
fix schools. Yes, there are some solutions that may be
able to get through the legislature coming up. We'll talk
to him, and of course we'll take some of your
questions and comments and issues on the talk back feature
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of the iHeartRadio app. I'm Carl Demaiyo, sitting in for
John Cooebell.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, you're listening to John Kobels on demand from KFI
Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
We're gonna be talking all this week about our California
voter ID initiative. If you want to make that a reality,
we need a million signatures, which means we need your help.
So sign up online at the website voter idpetition dot org.
Sign the petition at voter id petition dot org. Voter
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id petition dot org. Get your friend's family, neighbors, anyone
you know, your third cousin twice removed, get them to
sign at voteridpetition dot org. And that will give us
a fair fight in these upcoming elections to get better
people into office. One guy who's a really good guy
in office is State assembly Member Josh Hoover. I serve
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with him. I've seen him up close and personal. He
used to be on a school board. He did a
great job for his school district, and he has really
vialized in education reform as a state assembly member. He
joins us right now on the show. Josh, thanks for
calling in. So tell me what would you if you
could wave a magic wand in Sacramento and get one
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bill passed on education? What would be the one bill?
Because you've got a lot of great bills, but is
there one bill that you think is really very important
and pressing to get done.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
So well, Carl, and again thanks for having me on.
Not only do we get to serve together, we actually
are seat mates on the Assembly floor. So it's always
great serving with you in the Assembly. I you know,
I would. I mean, there's so many things that we
need to do in California and we're so far behind
in so many different areas. I think my one big
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wand if I could do it would be to really
just create real school choice in California for you know,
for students across the state, for families across the state.
There's a huge bill up next week that is once
again trying to defund charter schools, trying to make it
harder for locals to approve their petitions when they try
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to open in your community. This has been just a
constant drumbeat, year after year after year, going.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
After school choice at every step of the way. That
needs to end.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
We need to kill this bill next week, but we
also need to make it possible for actual charter schools
and private schools and other options for families to actually
succeed in California.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Totally agree. So the bill, do you have a bill
number on it? The charter school bill?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, So there's a bill coming up next week AB
eighty four by actually the chair of the Education Committee, Almarsuci.
It is just another and a long line of bills
that would reduce funding for charter schools and also make
it harder.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
To reprove them at the local level.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
They know that they can't introduce a bill to get
rid of charter schools, so what they've done is each
and every year they try to make it a little
harder for them to operate, a little harder for them
to survive. And then they're going to the local level
and electing board members that are anti charter so that
people don't have options in their communities.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
In Los Angeles Unified School District, last year, the Teachers'
union told the LA Unified School District board to make
it harder for charter schools to use public facilities, even
though charter schools are public schools and should have every
right to use public facilities. LA Unified said, no, we're
not going to let you do it. And this is
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despite the fact that LA Unified is sitting on a
bunch of vacant buildings because LA Unified has hemorrhage hemorrhaged
tens of thosands hundreds of thousands of students from that
district in the last decade as they've had declining enrollment
as parents pull their kids out of the schools and
go to other states or go to other districts. The
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bill I presented this week AB nineteen would go in
the opposite direction. It would create education savings accounts for
every parent in the state and allow them to you
use those vouchers to either go to public school, charter school,
private school, or homeschool. The average cost per student is
twenty three thousand, five hundred nineteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So what I do is.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I say, Okay, California bureaucrats, you keep five grand, you
keep five grand of what you're spending right now, but
give eighteen thousand, five hundred to parents. And the Democrats
killed my bill. You know, I even let them talk
five grand per student. I said, well, I'm not asking
for all of it. You just give eighteen thousy, five
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hundred to each parent. And they still killed the bill,
and now they're going after charter schools.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Parl Demyo back filling in for John cobelt The Democrats
killed our school choice bill AB nineteen, and they also
seemingly I'm going to blame them on it killed our
connection back to the KFI headquarters because both Joshuver and
I are in Sacramento still doing our jobs as state legislators,
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so we lost our connection there. Jos Josh Suver an
Assembly member from the Sacramento area, former school board member,
great education reformer that serves in the Assembly and trying
to do some good work. So you were talking about
how the Democrats are trying to kill charter schools with
their legislation. Meanwhile, we're trying to create school vouchers to
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empower parents to have education choice that you know, they
can send their kids to charter schools, public schools, private schools,
home school whatever they want. I mentioned that my bill
would give eighteen five hundred dollars for every parent for
every student in this state, and we would still leave
the general fund with five grand per student, Okay, And
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Democrats still did not feel that that was acceptable, so
they just killed the bill. As we look at the
education challenges, isn't the biggest challenge that we have the teachers' union.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Well, I mean, first of all, I think that that
is a huge problem, and we saw that directly during COVID.
I was on the school board during COVID, just trying
to fight to get schools reopened, and it was one
of the most frustrating experiences of my career.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But I think what this all boils down.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
To, both the charter school issue and them killing your bill,
is they do not want competition in public schools. They
do not want competition for public schools. The education establishment
is one of the biggest special interests in the nation,
And to be honest with you, this is why we
are fiftieth in the country in literacy, by the way,
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because this same education establishment that's fighting against reform was
the same ones that brought in this whole language model
in the nineties that ruined literacy rates and California. And
there's another bill I'm supporting next week that's going to
try to return us to the science of reading, to phonics,
to actually teaching kids how to read and actually getting
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them real success instead of focusing on all these other issues. So,
you know, I think at every level, there is so
many reasons why the establishment, the unions, and the rest
of these special interests are just bad for students in California, all.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Right, Shifting gears real quick from education to good old
fashioned corruption and politicians using our money for their benefit.
One of the issues that you ran on in the
Sacramento area is that the politicians up in the state
legislature decided to put a bunch of money in the budget,
the state budget, to build a brand new office complex
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for themselves. And at the time they said it would
be half a billion dollars, only half a billion dollars
for their office space, which is.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
A lot of money.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So they started this mega project in the state capitol.
Now we just found out it's a billion dollars. I
want to play this clip from k CRA, which is
a TV station up in Sacramento. Actually Zavalla, who's one
of the best reporters in the business in the entire state,
and this is what she found about this boondoggle project
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that I know that you've criticized and opposed. Listen into
this cut.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Steel deams are up and construction is underway on the
Capital Annex project. The one point one billion dollar construction
and counting will eventually house the offices of lawmakers, the governor,
and Lieutenant governor. It'll cost about as much as Levi
Stadium in Santa Clara and more than the Golden One
Center in Sacramento. But we still don't know why or
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how the money is being spent.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Motion passes.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
The Legislature's Joint Rules Committee overseeing the project still won't
give a public update, even though lawsuits against it have
been over for six months. No one with Joint Rules
would do an interview with us on Monday, but officials
confirm there are now no plans to construct the visitor
center on the west side of the historic Capital.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But even without that part.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
They said the budget for the project overall won't change.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Does that make sense to you, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Dick Cowen is the ex chairman of the Historic State
Capital Commission and as part of the group that sued
over the project.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Among the many questions we have is you know what's
the project going to cost?
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So you've got this project a billion dollars, They get
rid of the visitors center, they won't answer questions. They
put a bunch of people under non disclosure agreements, so
they're keeping secrets even though these are taxpayer funds they're spending.
The cost of this project is now the same as
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an NFL football stadium. And what you did to hear
in that report is apparently they're going to build this
building so that your elected representatives do not have to
interact with the normal people. There's going to be the
two sets of hallways in this building, one set for
the people, the regular folk, and one set for the politicians,
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so that they don't have to answer questions from members
of the public or the media when they're walking from
a committee hearing to their office or to the floor.
This is insanity. I mean, I'm embarrassed. I don't want
to step foot in this building at this point.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It really is insane, Carl.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
I mean, you know, and Ashley's been on this story
because you know, here's the thing, what Ashley is kind
of reading the tea leaves on this because members run
from her all the time and try to run into
hallways and escape her questioning constantly. And now they're using
taxpayer dollars, one point one billion of them to construct
a building that will shield them from the public and
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shield them from the media. I actually supported, by the way,
getting rid of the visitor center because they were going
to destroy the front of the Capitol with that thing.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But when they got rid of.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
That part of the project, the price stayed the same,
so it actually right. So they're not even saving money
by getting rid of a huge part of this project.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It is just a waste at every level.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't think that this project is going to get
done for less than two billion dollars. Okay, they said
five hundred million, which was extraordinarily uh wasteful at the time.
Then it's a billion now I'm telling you two billion dollars.
But what it's galling about it is the notion that
they're designing a building so that politicians don't have to
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answer questions or interact with real people. It is so
offensive that these people put themselves on some pedestal as
though they're special or they're they're there, they're celebrities. It's like,
carry your own bag and and and talk to real
people on your way to your next meeting. I mean,
that's probably the job.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
And it's so it's so arrogant, right because it really
just communicates I know better, I don't need your input.
I know what's best for California. That's how a lot
of these people are thinking. And it's just absolutely the
wrong approach. That's not how we're supposed to govern, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So you, because you're an education reformer, and because you
know you you vote good on all the other issues,
like you know, turning back tax increases and you know,
trying to cut regulations so that we can create jobs.
You are being targeted by Democrats. They want to flip
your seat, and my goal is to break the supermajority
in twenty twenty six, so we have to keep your
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seat while adding seven other seats. You are in the
fight of your life because they're targeting you. What's your
website for people to learn more and to potentially chip
in a contribution.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, so to learn more, please go to Hoover for
Assembly dot com. Hoover like the vacuum for Assembly dot com.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
And yeah, we are going to be in a tight race.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
We obviously are always under attack because we represent a
competitive district. But we're going to keep working hard to
make sure that we hold down this seat and hopefully
picked up more so we can actually restore some bad
alence and Sacramento in some common sense.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
All right, Josh Hoover State Assembly member up here in
the Sacramento area a good reformer. We need him to
be re elected, So please go to that website and
help him out. Josh, thanks so much. By the way, reminder,
join our movement to get voter ID on the ballot
in twenty twenty six. If you want to help us out,
we need a million signatures, go to the website voter
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ID petition dot org. That's voteridpetition dot org. Also for
Thursday and Friday, keep those questions coming using the iHeartRadio
app the talkback feature. Send any topic to me or
any question you might have. We will cover those tomorrow
and on Friday. Coming up on Thursday, the road to
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the House majority rolls through comes through California. Trump his
entire agenda will be destroyed and stopped if the Republicans
lose the House. We're going to talk about the fight
for control of Congress here in California. Plus natural gas
appliance bans. They're trying to ban your gas stove. We'll
talk about how they're going to do it and how
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we're fighting back. And of course we want to get
into the insurance crisis and why you're paying so much
more and what we can do to keep the costs down.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That does it for me.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Carl Demayo filling in for John Cobelt Coming up. Tim
Conway Junior up next on KFI. But first we've got
Michael Krozer in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom with
the news.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast.
You can always hear the show live on KFI Am
six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't f I am six forty. You're listening to the
John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
This is Carl Demayo filling in for John Cobelt while
he's off on some much needed vacation and we've got
a lot to get to to this hour. It's about
fixing schools. We haven't heard very much controversy about California schools,
have we in a long time. Yeah, it's been very
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passionate as parents have been pretty ticked off, and they
have every right to be ticked off because the schools
have failed to students. Our students are not meeting academic
standards and parents I think during I think it was
during COVID when all the shutdowns happened and everyone had to,
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you know, have their kids go remote to school, and
they sat there while they were also told they're not
allowed to go to work, so everyone was at home
and for a few weeks, the parents kind of basically
got to go to school with their kids. They sat
there as the kids were on these computers and they
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were listening and they're like, wait, wait, I'm not hearing
a whole lot of reading, writing, and arithmetic, but I
hear a whole lot of climate change and personal pronouns.
So the parents woke up and they started asking questions.
And when they asked questions, they started finding out some
things that they weren't happy about. They and rightfully. So
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let me give you some stats that will astound you.
Per student in California, we spend twenty three thousand, five
hundred and nineteen dollars, and that's just in the California
State General Fund budget, twenty three thousand, five hundred and
nineteen dollars per student. On top of that, you have
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to add all of the property taxes and parsonal taxes
and special taxes that local government collects and spends in
each school district. So clearly we're at twenty five grand,
if not twenty six grand, twenty seven grand, twenty eight grand.
That's just in direct per pupil spending. Other states do
it for a lot less. We are spending more and
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more and more per student and getting less and less
and less. Two thirds of California's students fail math proficiencies
every year. Two thirds of California students fail math proficiencies.
Fifty one percent of California students fail reading and writing proficiencies. Now,
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when you build a system that fails two thirds of
the time or fifty one percent of the time, whether
you're looking at math or reading and writing, when you
build a system that fails most of the time, it's corrupt,
it's broken. It needs to have a tooth detail overhaul.
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It's time for receivership. Baby, it's time for investigations. Some
would argue, but instead California politicians say everything's fine, All
we need is more money. The teachers' union comes in
and says, give us the more money and keep your
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nose out of our business. These are our children, not yours.
What are we seeing made a priority in the classroom?
Not reading, writing and rhythmetic No, no, no, no. We're
seeing controversial, sex ed curriculum. We're seeing personal pronouns. We're
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seeing critical race theory, how to become a activist, how
to fight climate change in racism, if you're white, you've
got privilege and you should shut up and sit down.
You are a victimizer. Apologize to your victims. We are
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literally talking about where the nearest abortion clinic is in
our school districts. Oh yeah, I have found contracts awarded
by local school districts to Planned Parenthood to come in
and give briefings to students as to where the nearest
clinic is. I don't care where you are on the
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issue of abortion, but I think a lot of parents
would be pretty ticked off if they knew that was happening,
and no one in the liberal media wants to cover it.
I don't think any social topic should be in the classroom.
I think reading. If you can't teach a kid to
add if they can't read or write, you have no
business talking about anything else until you get the core
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job done first. So in this environment, we have a
big debate going on, and I think the debate is
kind of missing things right now. The debate is how
do we force school boards to listen to parents. Now,
I'm all for school boards listening to parents, don't get
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me wrong. I'm up and down the state of California
recruiting quality school board candidates to run as change agents,
as reform minded school board trustees, to clean up the system,
to put the kids first. It's important to have a good,
strong school board, but that it's not going to fix
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the problem quickly or as quick as a bigger reform,
and that is if you want to empower parents, you
don't empower them by hoping that you get good school
board members that listen and then make good decisions.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
How about we give.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Parents real empowerment by giving them money. It's the golden rule. Baby,
he who has the gold makes the rule. Right now,
school boards don't have to listen to parents because parents
aren't consequential. They're not in charge. What are you gonna do?
Take your child to another district. You're not rich like
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the rest of us. The chosen few, the labor union
boss most labor union bosses, they don't put their kids
in public school. No, they're wealthy enough to put them
in private school. No, no, No. The lobbyists and the
special interests in the campaign contributors who call the shots. Oh,
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they get real education choice, school choice for their kids.
They don't like the school, they take their kid out
and they pay tuition somewhere else. But most Californians do
not have the luxury of writing a check for tuition
to a private school, and so they are sentenced to
the failure of their local public school system. And I
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think there's a lot of good teachers in public schools,
well intended teachers. But it's a broken system with some
good people. The only way you fix the systemic failure
here is to give education choice. Vouchers give parents money,
and when they have money, they are empowered. Let them
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take those vouchers and take them to another public school,
private school, home school, a religious school. Whatever they want
to do, they know better. And you know what, there'll
be schools that do a great job that will then
enter the market, expand and recruit parents to bring their
vouchers and their children to their schools. That's the beauty
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of competition and choice, the free market.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But no, no, no, government says.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Oh, you can't trust anyone but government. Well, we've been
trusting you for decades, and you seem to really screw up.
Two thirds of the students lose a not able to
pass the proficiencies. And don't get me started about black
and brown children, because this system hurts them the most.
You want to see institutional racism, Go find me a
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Democrat controlled school district. Because black and brown students in
this failing system have the worst proficiency stats of any
ethnic group. How do we fix it? Well, the best
thing to do besides elect school board members in each
district across the state. The best thing to do is
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to elect the number one school official in the state,
which is not the governor. It's a position called the
California Superintendent of Public Instruction. It's a statewide office. Coming up,
I'm going to announce an endorsement of a candidate we
want to win. We want to see win in twenty
twenty six for California Public Superintendent of Schools.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Coming up.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
You're gonna hear from her and I'll make my endorsement
on air, and we'll invite you to be part of
this rebellion to take back the schools from the broken
system that we've seen. It's all coming up. Carl Tomyo
filling in for John co Belt.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
You're listening to John coblt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Remember keep those talkback questions coming to me. The talk
back feature on the iHeartRadio app is how you submit
questions to me that we will cover in Thursday Show
and Friday Show. Any issues you want us to tackle.
Right now, we're talking about why are California school so
screwed up? Two thirds of California students failing math proficiencies,
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a majority failing reading and writing. But we're spending twenty
five grand per student. The exact number from the state
twenty three, five and nineteen dollars does not include your
local tax dollars that they charge you for. So we're
talking twenty five to thirty grand per student, more than
any other state per per student, and we're getting the
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results that we deserve. Parents are upset. One way to
fix the system, elect better school board members. Another way
to fix the system elect a very powerful position, California
Superintendent of Public Instruction. It's a statewide position. It's on
the ballot in twenty twenty six, and I am pleased
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to make an endorsement today Reform California. Our movement, myself included.
We are endorsing Sonya Shaw, who's currently a trustee of
Chino Valley Unified School District in southern California, and Sonya
joins us right now on the line. Sonya, welcome and
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thank you for running for this office. I was thrilled
when you threw your hat in the ring. First and foremost,
tell us why the superintendent of public instruction in California
that this statewide office. Tell us why this is so
important to improve quality of education in our state.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Absolutely, Carl, And first of all, thank you for everything
that you do, and thank you for that endorsement. What
a way to start this conversation. So I'm very appreciative
of that. As we know you just said, you know
that the state throws in twenty three to twenty six
thousand dollars on average per student. We're talking about an
average of one hundred and twenty billion dollars a year,
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and the results have shown over and over we're failing
our kids and reading, writing, a math because they focus
on everything else but those things. And also giving our
kids that opportunity this I give credit to my good
friend Lance Christensen, who ran last year against the machine.
He brought light to this position. I think this was
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the first time a lot of us parents had paid
attention to this position. It is a powerful position in
especially a state like California. Carl. We you know, if
getting into this position, I would oversee the budget. First
of all, we would ensure that the education is bothocused
on just that without all the ideologies thrown into the system.
(12:05):
And you know, it's a big responsibility. But I'm so
glad that people are finally paying attention to the seat.
But I think it has to do with everything of
people like you, people parents, you know, getting involved in
school boards, and they've exposed the people in these seats
making these decisions, and F is an F It's time
for change.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
What I like about this position and you taking it
over is not only can you make sure the money
is properly spent and audit the money and say we
want a fun performance, not failure, but you would also
be able to get rid of all the crazy, woke, nonsense,
irrelevant social and sexual and nonsensical curriculum mandates. You could actually,
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as the superintendent of public instruction, say to the school districts, hey,
you get to decide what your curriculum is, but I'm
going to remove all these mandates of all this junk.
If you want to put them back in, talk to
your parents about that. But you could basically clear the
deck and simplify back to basics.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
And you know we've done that in our own district.
I mean, despite California obviously legislating certain crazy things, we
focus back on education and the results are there. Our
test scores are increasing, families are starting to trust our
district again, And to me, I feel so guilty. That's
just happening in our community when I hear others scream
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all over and and don't get me wrong, we're still
up against the big you know, unions and the big money.
But the fact is you're right. We can clear the path,
and I think people like you and I we can
get in in the front line of that. We could
take the beating all while making sure we put the
things in place and we put the focus back on education.
Can you imagine, Carl in California, we can finally, after
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decades of it being on a road to failure, we
can put it back into success for our kids. I mean,
we know we hold the line for the rest of
the nation here in California, right and everything that happens
in California there goes the nation. It would be such
an amazing thing, and it's so doable, and I think
this is the time that we do it is now.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Well, you've done great work in Chino Valley Unified School
District with your reform agenda. Parents are thrilled schools are
better under your stewardship. Can't wait till you get into
this statewide position. But we got to get you there.
I know the teachers' unions can spend millions and millions
of dollars to smear you and to destroy you, and
to put their own puppet into office to continue their scam.
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What is your website so people can learn more about
you and hopefully sign up to volunteer and even contribute.
What's the website they can go to.
Speaker 5 (14:47):
That would be awesome? Www dot shaw for CA dot com.
So that's ww dot Shaw for forca dot com. And again,
this is not my campaign. This is the campaign of
parents and community members and those people that want education
to be focused on just that. I mean, I'm excited.
So yes, like Carl said, please sign up there we
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need all hands on deck.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
That's Shaw Shaw FOURCA dot com. Go to that website.
Be part of the effort to reform California schools. Sonya Shaw,
I'm looking forward to hitting the campaign trail with you
in twenty twenty six. Keep up the great work you
got my endorsement or Reform California Voter Guide. We'll have
you featured prominently and good luck. Coming up, we got
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to continue our conversation on schools. One of my colleagues
up here in Sacramento, Josh Hoover, former school board member,
is doing some great work with some legislative proposals to
fix schools. Yes, there are some solutions that may be
able to get through the legislature coming up. We'll talk
to him, and of course we'll take some of your
questions and comments and issues on the talk back feature
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of the iHeartRadio app. I'm Carl Demaiyo, sitting in for
John Cooebell.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, you're listening to John Kobels on demand from KFI
Am sixty.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
We're gonna be talking all this week about our California
voter ID initiative. If you want to make that a reality,
we need a million signatures, which means we need your help.
So sign up online at the website voter idpetition dot org.
Sign the petition at voter id petition dot org. Voter
(16:29):
id petition dot org. Get your friend's family, neighbors, anyone
you know, your third cousin twice removed, get them to
sign at voteridpetition dot org. And that will give us
a fair fight in these upcoming elections to get better
people into office. One guy who's a really good guy
in office is State assembly Member Josh Hoover. I serve
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with him. I've seen him up close and personal. He
used to be on a school board. He did a
great job for his school district, and he has really
vialized in education reform as a state assembly member. He
joins us right now on the show. Josh, thanks for
calling in. So tell me what would you if you
could wave a magic wand in Sacramento and get one
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bill passed on education? What would be the one bill?
Because you've got a lot of great bills, but is
there one bill that you think is really very important
and pressing to get done.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
So well, Carl, and again thanks for having me on.
Not only do we get to serve together, we actually
are seat mates on the Assembly floor. So it's always
great serving with you in the Assembly. I you know,
I would. I mean, there's so many things that we
need to do in California and we're so far behind
in so many different areas. I think my one big
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wand if I could do it would be to really
just create real school choice in California for you know,
for students across the state, for families across the state.
There's a huge bill up next week that is once
again trying to defund charter schools, trying to make it
harder for locals to approve their petitions when they try
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to open in your community. This has been just a
constant drumbeat, year after year after year, going.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
After school choice at every step of the way. That
needs to end.
Speaker 6 (18:22):
We need to kill this bill next week, but we
also need to make it possible for actual charter schools
and private schools and other options for families to actually
succeed in California.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Totally agree. So the bill, do you have a bill
number on it? The charter school bill?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
Yeah, So there's a bill coming up next week AB
eighty four by actually the chair of the Education Committee, Almarsuci.
It is just another and a long line of bills
that would reduce funding for charter schools and also make
it harder.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
To reprove them at the local level.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
They know that they can't introduce a bill to get
rid of charter schools, so what they've done is each
and every year they try to make it a little
harder for them to operate, a little harder for them
to survive. And then they're going to the local level
and electing board members that are anti charter so that
people don't have options in their communities.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
In Los Angeles Unified School District, last year, the Teachers'
union told the LA Unified School District board to make
it harder for charter schools to use public facilities, even
though charter schools are public schools and should have every
right to use public facilities. LA Unified said, no, we're
not going to let you do it. And this is
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despite the fact that LA Unified is sitting on a
bunch of vacant buildings because LA Unified has hemorrhage hemorrhaged
tens of thosands hundreds of thousands of students from that
district in the last decade as they've had declining enrollment
as parents pull their kids out of the schools and
go to other states or go to other districts. The
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bill I presented this week AB nineteen would go in
the opposite direction. It would create education savings accounts for
every parent in the state and allow them to you
use those vouchers to either go to public school, charter school,
private school, or homeschool. The average cost per student is
twenty three thousand, five hundred nineteen dollars.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
So what I do is.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I say, Okay, California bureaucrats, you keep five grand, you
keep five grand of what you're spending right now, but
give eighteen thousand, five hundred to parents. And the Democrats
killed my bill. You know, I even let them talk
five grand per student. I said, well, I'm not asking
for all of it. You just give eighteen thousy, five
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hundred to each parent. And they still killed the bill,
and now they're going after charter schools.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
Parl Demyo back filling in for John cobelt The Democrats
killed our school choice bill AB nineteen, and they also
seemingly I'm going to blame them on it killed our
connection back to the KFI headquarters because both Joshuver and
I are in Sacramento still doing our jobs as state legislators,
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so we lost our connection there. Jos Josh Suver an
Assembly member from the Sacramento area, former school board member,
great education reformer that serves in the Assembly and trying
to do some good work. So you were talking about
how the Democrats are trying to kill charter schools with
their legislation. Meanwhile, we're trying to create school vouchers to
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empower parents to have education choice that you know, they
can send their kids to charter schools, public schools, private schools,
home school whatever they want. I mentioned that my bill
would give eighteen five hundred dollars for every parent for
every student in this state, and we would still leave
the general fund with five grand per student, Okay, And
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Democrats still did not feel that that was acceptable, so
they just killed the bill. As we look at the
education challenges, isn't the biggest challenge that we have the teachers' union.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Well, I mean, first of all, I think that that
is a huge problem, and we saw that directly during COVID.
I was on the school board during COVID, just trying
to fight to get schools reopened, and it was one
of the most frustrating experiences of my career.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But I think what this all boils down.
Speaker 6 (22:26):
To, both the charter school issue and them killing your bill,
is they do not want competition in public schools. They
do not want competition for public schools. The education establishment
is one of the biggest special interests in the nation,
And to be honest with you, this is why we
are fiftieth in the country in literacy, by the way,
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because this same education establishment that's fighting against reform was
the same ones that brought in this whole language model
in the nineties that ruined literacy rates and California. And
there's another bill I'm supporting next week that's going to
try to return us to the science of reading, to phonics,
to actually teaching kids how to read and actually getting
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them real success instead of focusing on all these other issues. So,
you know, I think at every level, there is so
many reasons why the establishment, the unions, and the rest
of these special interests are just bad for students in California, all.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
Right, Shifting gears real quick from education to good old
fashioned corruption and politicians using our money for their benefit.
One of the issues that you ran on in the
Sacramento area is that the politicians up in the state
legislature decided to put a bunch of money in the budget,
the state budget, to build a brand new office complex
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for themselves. And at the time they said it would
be half a billion dollars, only half a billion dollars
for their office space, which is.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
A lot of money.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
So they started this mega project in the state capitol.
Now we just found out it's a billion dollars. I
want to play this clip from k CRA, which is
a TV station up in Sacramento. Actually Zavalla, who's one
of the best reporters in the business in the entire state,
and this is what she found about this boondoggle project
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that I know that you've criticized and opposed. Listen into
this cut.
Speaker 7 (24:24):
Steel deams are up and construction is underway on the
Capital Annex project. The one point one billion dollar construction
and counting will eventually house the offices of lawmakers, the governor,
and Lieutenant governor. It'll cost about as much as Levi
Stadium in Santa Clara and more than the Golden One
Center in Sacramento. But we still don't know why or
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how the money is being spent.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Motion passes.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
The Legislature's Joint Rules Committee overseeing the project still won't
give a public update, even though lawsuits against it have
been over for six months. No one with Joint Rules
would do an interview with us on Monday, but officials
confirm there are now no plans to construct the visitor
center on the west side of the historic Capital.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
But even without that part.
Speaker 7 (25:07):
They said the budget for the project overall won't change.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Does that make sense to you, No, it doesn't.
Speaker 7 (25:13):
Dick Cowen is the ex chairman of the Historic State
Capital Commission and as part of the group that sued
over the project.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Among the many questions we have is you know what's
the project going to cost?
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Now?
Speaker 2 (25:26):
So you've got this project a billion dollars, They get
rid of the visitors center, they won't answer questions. They
put a bunch of people under non disclosure agreements, so
they're keeping secrets even though these are taxpayer funds they're spending.
The cost of this project is now the same as
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an NFL football stadium. And what you did to hear
in that report is apparently they're going to build this
building so that your elected representatives do not have to
interact with the normal people. There's going to be the
two sets of hallways in this building, one set for
the people, the regular folk, and one set for the politicians,
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so that they don't have to answer questions from members
of the public or the media when they're walking from
a committee hearing to their office or to the floor.
This is insanity. I mean, I'm embarrassed. I don't want
to step foot in this building at this point.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
It really is insane, Carl.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
I mean, you know, and Ashley's been on this story
because you know, here's the thing, what Ashley is kind
of reading the tea leaves on this because members run
from her all the time and try to run into
hallways and escape her questioning constantly. And now they're using
taxpayer dollars, one point one billion of them to construct
a building that will shield them from the public and
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shield them from the media. I actually supported, by the way,
getting rid of the visitor center because they were going
to destroy the front of the Capitol with that thing.
Speaker 3 (26:55):
But when they got rid of.
Speaker 6 (26:57):
That part of the project, the price stayed the same,
so it actually right. So they're not even saving money
by getting rid of a huge part of this project.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
It is just a waste at every level.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
I don't think that this project is going to get
done for less than two billion dollars. Okay, they said
five hundred million, which was extraordinarily uh wasteful at the time.
Then it's a billion now I'm telling you two billion dollars.
But what it's galling about it is the notion that
they're designing a building so that politicians don't have to
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answer questions or interact with real people. It is so
offensive that these people put themselves on some pedestal as
though they're special or they're they're there, they're celebrities. It's like,
carry your own bag and and and talk to real
people on your way to your next meeting. I mean,
that's probably the job.
Speaker 6 (27:50):
And it's so it's so arrogant, right because it really
just communicates I know better, I don't need your input.
I know what's best for California. That's how a lot
of these people are thinking. And it's just absolutely the
wrong approach. That's not how we're supposed to govern, all right.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
So you, because you're an education reformer, and because you
know you you vote good on all the other issues,
like you know, turning back tax increases and you know,
trying to cut regulations so that we can create jobs.
You are being targeted by Democrats. They want to flip
your seat, and my goal is to break the supermajority
in twenty twenty six, so we have to keep your
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seat while adding seven other seats. You are in the
fight of your life because they're targeting you. What's your
website for people to learn more and to potentially chip
in a contribution.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
Yeah, so to learn more, please go to Hoover for
Assembly dot com. Hoover like the vacuum for Assembly dot com.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
And yeah, we are going to be in a tight race.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
We obviously are always under attack because we represent a
competitive district. But we're going to keep working hard to
make sure that we hold down this seat and hopefully
picked up more so we can actually restore some bad
alence and Sacramento in some common sense.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
All right, Josh Hoover State Assembly member up here in
the Sacramento area a good reformer. We need him to
be re elected, So please go to that website and
help him out. Josh, thanks so much. By the way, reminder,
join our movement to get voter ID on the ballot
in twenty twenty six. If you want to help us out,
we need a million signatures, go to the website voter
(29:23):
ID petition dot org. That's voteridpetition dot org. Also for
Thursday and Friday, keep those questions coming using the iHeartRadio
app the talkback feature. Send any topic to me or
any question you might have. We will cover those tomorrow
and on Friday. Coming up on Thursday, the road to
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the House majority rolls through comes through California. Trump his
entire agenda will be destroyed and stopped if the Republicans
lose the House. We're going to talk about the fight
for control of Congress here in California. Plus natural gas
appliance bans. They're trying to ban your gas stove. We'll
talk about how they're going to do it and how
(30:06):
we're fighting back. And of course we want to get
into the insurance crisis and why you're paying so much
more and what we can do to keep the costs down.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
That does it for me.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Carl Demayo filling in for John Cobelt Coming up. Tim
Conway Junior up next on KFI. But first we've got
Michael Krozer in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom with
the news.
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