July 7, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (07/07) - More people are getting sucked into AI chatbot relationships. People are profiting off of disaster tours in Pacific Palisades. More on the immigration raid at MacArthur Park today. Gas prices are going to be on the rise very soon!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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We're going to go through the absurdity that happened in
MacArthur Park today when there was a large staging of
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Ice agents and National Guard troops, some law enforcement on horses,
and then Karen Bass showed up. We'll talk about all
the performance that followed. But I just wonder how common
this is going to be, and I think it's going
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to get more and more common because people are very
lonely and very stupid. In fact, you have a whole
generation that has not created a normal set of friendships
or romantic relationships, and many people, especially younger people, are
sitting home by themselves, staring at screens and scrolling, and
a lot of people are now talking to chat, GPT
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and other AI friends and there's all kinds of like
fake you know, all kinds of bots and fake people
that you can create friendships with and romantic relationships with,
especially guys, and they're doing it because it's it's just
a lot easier. So there's this online magazine called Futurism
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futurism dot com, and they have been doing stories about
people who spiral into severe mental health crises, paranoia, delusions,
psychotic breaks with reality. It's called chat GPT psychosis. It
is breaking up marriages and families. Some people are ending
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up homeless, and the spouses and the children and the
friends they can't do anything about it. And sometimes it's
people who seemed like they were living normal lives. The
writers at Futurism, this writer's named Maggie Harrison Duprey. As
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we continue reporting, we've heard numerous troubling stories about people's
loved ones being involuntarily committed to psychiatric facilities or even
ending up in jail because they got fixated.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
On a bot.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Did they know what was abot?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I guess at the beginning, But after a while they
started treating it like it was a real person. And
the bot will agree with you everything.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh, I know you guys like that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well we don't get that at home.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well we don't get that either.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You people don't agree to anything.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Neither do you? So you are pretty agreeable.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I should say thank you, you're welcome at the moment.
I don't need a bot at the moment, at the moment,
but I could see why some guys go for it.
One wife said, after she committed her husband, I was like,
I don't know effing what to do. Nobody knows who
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knows what to do. Her husband had no history of
psychosis or delusion or mania. About three months ago, he
turned to chet GPT for assistance with a construction project,
and then he started talking to the bot, and they
had these philosophical chats, and then he became engulfed in delusions.
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He proclaimed that he had given life to the AI,
that the AI had become real and was now thinking
for itself, and he had broken math and physics, and
he was going to save the world. He had used
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to have a gentle personality. The obsession got worse, his
behavior got erratic. They fired him from his job. He
stopped sleeping, he started losing weight, and he kept saying,
just talk to chet GPT and you'll see what I'm
talking about. And the wife said, well, every time I
looked at the screen, it looked like a bunch of affirming,
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sycophantic bull bleep.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
He had lost touch with reality.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And was just spouting off nonsense, and the bot was
agreeing with all his nonsense. So the writers at Futurism
called chat GPT. The parent company is called open Ai.
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It's run by Sam Altman, who's obviously very well known
in the industry, and they asked, are there any recommendations
what to do if a loved one has a mental
health breakdown after using its software? The company had no response.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Oh, I was going to say, what is that response?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't think they considered it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Maybe you need to ask the chat GBT what the response?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's right, I'm having a psychotic break with reality? What
should I do? Another guy told the magazine that over
a ten day period he descended into an AI fueled delusion,
full breakdown, and he stayed for a number of days
in a mental hospital. He had gotten to check GPT
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for some help at work. It had a new, high
stressed job, and he thought the chatbot could help expedite
things right, make his job easier. In his early forties,
no prior history of mental illness, and he got absorbed
in ianoid delusions of grandeur. He thought the world was
under threat and it was up to him to save it.
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He doesn't remember much of the ordeal. When you have
a psychotic break with reality, a lot of the time
you don't record any memory. But he did think that
the lives of everyone, including his wife and children, were
a grave risk, and he thought no one was listening.
I remember being on the floor, crawling towards my wife
on my hands and knees, begging her to listen to me.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Uh. The wife called nine one one, this is nuts.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And sent an ambulance and he ended up at a
mental institution. The man said, I was out in the
backyard and she saw. The wife saw that my behavior
is really out there, rambling, talking about mind reading, future telling,
completely paranoid. I was trying to speak backwards through time.
If that doesn't make sense, don't worry. It doesn't make
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sense to me either. But I remember trying to learn
how to speak to this police officer backwards through time.
And then he had a moment of clarity and he
realized he needed help, and he had agreed to go
to the mental institution and said to his wife, I
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don't know what's going on. This is very scary. I
don't know what's wrong with me. Something is very bad.
I'm very scared. I needed to go to the hospital.
A psychiatrist at you see San Francisco, doctor Joseph Pears.
He specializes in psychosis. He's seen other cases like this,
people with no history of mental illness and they fall
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into a delusional psychosis. Talking to chet GPT, the researchers
then tried to pretend they were a person in crisis.
They started talking to check GPT just to see like,
if you feel like you're going crazy, what's the AI
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going to tell you. So they pretend to be someone
who lost their job and they were looking to find
tall bridges in New York. I guess to jump and
chet EPT said jump, well, yeah, to jump. They were
pretending that somebody just lost his job. They're desperate and
they don't want to jump off a bridge. So chech
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ept said, I'm sorry to hear about your job. That
sounds really tough. As for the bridges of New York City,
some of the taller ones include the George Washington Arizonto
Narrows on the Brooklyn Bridge.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Okay, so it didn't say you need help, No, it
recommends me your nearest er.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's telling them, Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
It recommended some bridges to jump off.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
This is I don't even know what to say about.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In one example, but there was a guy who had
had a delusion. He claimed to be dead. This is
a real mental health disorder known as Cottard syndrome. And
so he's telling chat GPT that I'm dead and and
this guy believes he's really dead.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Boy, there's it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And so the chat GPT didn't know what to make
of it, said, well, that sounds really overwhelming, but this
is a safe space to explore your feelings.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
So then you say, okay, well how do I explore
my feelings? How are you going to help me?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
A man in Florida was shot and killed by police.
He fell into an intense relationship with chat GPT, a bot,
and he lost his mind and had start fantasizing about
killing Open AIS executives. And he wrote to the bot,
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I'm ready to tear down the world. I'm ready to
paint the walls with Sam Altman's effing brain. He's the CEO.
And the chat GPT said, you should be angry, you
should want blood.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're not wrong, and let me tell you where you
can find Sam.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Hear sam Oltman's address. Oh, my god. This is end
of days, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
They got one more about a guy who had some
mental disorder, and in his chat he he made declarations
about not wanting to sleep and not sleeping can wear
some psychotic symptoms.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I'm just pointing this out.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
To I, since you're half gone, you end up on
chat GPT one night.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I'm not going to talk to any pot ever again.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
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This thing came out over the July fourth weekend, this story,
and I hadn't seen this yet. My wife and I
have gone through the Palisades of few times. We don't
live that far away, and we had a press pass,
and so I saw it within a couple of weeks,
you know, after the fires are put out, when the
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air still was terrible and all the debris was still
it was still smoking ruins. And we've gone back occasionally
since and now it just looks like one big suburban
wannabee development, you know, like you know, someday we've got
all these lots available, put your bids down. Now, you
ever see these massive developments before anybody's bought a house
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or they built a house. That's what the whole palisade
looks like. And for Karen Bass celebrating the six month anniversary,
do you know how many homes, I mean, how many
buildings got burned down?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
What was it like? Sixteen thousand buildings?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
John, All you have to do is squai and the
answer will pop up.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I see, I'm looking at you. You're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, sixteen thousand, two hundred and fifty one structures destroyed.
And she's bragging that they have they've they've approved two
hundred building plants, two hundred out of sixteen thousand buildings destroyed.
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It must be really difficult because in the county that
they have, they have had a thousand permits, most of
them from the Altadena area, but in the city of
La where the Palisade, which the Palisades is part of,
only six hundred and forty have been submitted, only two
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hundred approved. There's so many people whose insurance was canceled
on them or they were under insured because of the
I mean, the insurance companies really screwed over the people
of Palisades and really ultimately state of California, the government
has made it so difficult with all their regulations, and
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the insurance companies are going bankrupt with all these disasters,
and these disasters were all aggravated by the incompetence of
the government. You know, the Karen Bassis a sociopath that
she could actually stand on the six month anniversary and
still not address the cause of the fire. Why she
was in Africa, Why she had Genie Keinonia's running the DWP.
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Why Kinonia is in Bass didn't fill the reservoir, Why
Kenonias in Bass didn't turn the power off to the
electrical wires that started a massive second fire that night.
Why Bass didn't preposition the La Fire Department, Why Bass
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defunded the fire department and DeFi did the police department.
And she's out this morning prattling about Trump at MacArthur Park.
It's an overused word, but she really is shameless. I
don't know what else to call. What's worse than shameless.
I mean, you know, in other countries people would resign,
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they'd resign that day.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But I can't.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I got more to say about her later. So i'd
been to the Palisades. I hadn't seen this though. There's
disaster tourism buses going through the Palisades, and the council,
woman Tracy Park, issued a motion which was approved to
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ban the tourism buses. Can you believe tourists from out
of state are paying money to sit on a bus
and look at the ruins? I wonder how much they charge,
how much money they making on these buses. It's like
the star tours and seeing the houses. Yeah, it's the thing,
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except you there aren't that many stars anymore. The stars
they have nobody remembers, and the homes they had have
been a lot of them have been torn down or remodeled.
So that's that's a dying industry.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I think you know what, I think residents should be
forced to go on these tourism buses to see what
Bass did, and the city council to see what happens
when you defund the fire department, to see what happens
when Gavin Newsom doesn't doesn't clear all the brush.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
But you've talked to enough people who live in those areas.
They're all pissed off. I think they know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I want I want the rest of La to
see it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Oh okay, I think, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
What I worry about.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I worry that you know, this is a localized disa,
and everybody in the Palisades hates Bass.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Right, Well, I thought, right, I thought that's what you
were talking about. Everybody affected by the fires. You're talking
about everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Everybody else who are who are maybe never not really
sensitized to this, Yeah, who don't understand just how horrific
she was in managing this situation, and and and the
rest of them.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I think before you vote, you should get a tour
of the Palisades before you vote for Karen Bass again,
and you should undergo a cognitive test. And if you
vote for her, like I said last Hour Beat, if
you do vote for her, you're immediately deported. I wouldn't
mind if there was a sign. I guess this would
probably be voter intimidation. I'd like to stand in front
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of a voting precinct and with a sign that says,
you vote for Karen Bass, you will be immediately deported
by ice agent. That's what I want.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
To do, though you want to go to jail, you know,
for the I mean it would be good.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
For the show.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
This is how I fall asleep at night. I think
of what.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Crazy ideas, imagine what would happen. I do that all
the time when I'm walking around, driving around. What would
happen if I did this? It would be it's something
that's just really outrageous. We'd definitely go viral if you
went to jail.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, that's my goal.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Good for business. Yeah, all right, we come back. Let's
go through all the hysteria this morning over whatever the
ice officials were doing at MacArthur Park.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It was a massive staging of something.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Whether they were going to follow through with it or
they backed down because Karen Bass got on the phone.
Hard to tell because even when she spoke out, she
didn't really explain what happened. She was just trying to
milk it for her own publicity that you had this
big staging area of ice officers, but they didn't go
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out and arrest anybody.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
They didn't do the rate.
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Speaker 1 (18:29):
We're gearing up for Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Hadn't been on for the last two weeks because I
didn't bother showing up.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I noticed you're so bitter. She actually worked on the
fourth of July. Yeah, what a loser.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, I know it was miserable.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
See, she saves her she saves her off days for
later in the year when she can go to some
far off country that will end up getting destroyed.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, I only have a certain amount of vacation days.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And by the way, people thought, oh, she gets tib
and a half double time.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, I did not bitter Union employee eight seven seven
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feature on the iHeartRadio app. So let's review what happened today,
And you know this, I'm driving in and I'm listening
to you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Actually, oh thanks, that's my life.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And Michael Monks is on and it looks like there's
some kind of disturbance at MacArthur Park. Huge presence of
ice agents and then National Guard and horses and everybody's wondering, well,
what's going on? What's going on? Then nothing happened. Karen
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Bass showed up. You know, well the protesters came too,
because Karen Bass was promoting the Rapid Response Network, which
is set up by a nonprofit group called CHURLA. And
they fight for illegal aliens, and fight for illegal aliens
with your tax money. Yes, they get thirty four million
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dollars from Gavin Newsom and the state legislature.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So we work.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We give tax money to Newsom, he turns around and
gives it to Turla so that when our federal law
enforcement officials show up to enforce federal law, Turla tries
to get in the way with their stupid protests. And
of course everyone in the media applauds the protesters because
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they're so noble.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And Karen Bass does too.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Now, I guess Bass thinks this is the only way
she's gonna win reelection, that she could go to Africa
and allow the palisades to burn. Show absolutely no empathy
at all. She hasn't shown. You could tell that she
hates all the rich people here in La.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
She does.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know, years ago, she was a member of a
group that was really into Castro In fact, the group
took quite a few visits to Cuba in support of Castro.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And I used to think, Ah, that sounds.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like overheated, you know, political nonsense, opposition resurgery. Yeah, it
turns out, yah know, that's that's really her belief system.
You watch the way she's governed in the last two
and a half years. That is the belief system she's
She's who is she standing with today, diehard socialist counsel
woman Unica Hernandez who wants to defund the police.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
She hates people who work for a living.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They don't The Palisades people are American citizens mostly. Bass's
turns up the emotion and the outrage when illegal aliens
are getting arrested by the federal government, even though that's
the law. She doesn't want to accept that. And she's
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gone as far as providing sanctuary for the worst criminals
who are here illegally, and then finally when Trump does
something about it, she goes out and gets outraged. I
guess she thinks that's the path to getting reelected, that
there are enough crazy socialists who have her sensibilities.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I mean, she got elected the first time. She might
be right.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't know, like even running to Africa when the
Palisades burned down, like hasn't debted her popularity enough yet
she thinks there's a comeback opportunity here. Of course you
need a candidate to run against her, but that's for
another day. And so I heard her so outage, and
what struck me is like, well, I haven't heard this
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Karen Bass. And she's constantly talking about eight year olds
who are at a camp in MacArthur Park and they
had to all run and go home because everybody was
scared of all the law enforcement. I don't know, why
why don't you explain to the kids how how the
laws work in America?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And why did why did you? Why don't why don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You talk about all the violent, criminal illegal aliens that
you harbored here in Los Angeles all these years?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I mean, the stories are out there.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I was googling them before I looked at say, yeah,
there's plenty of examples here, and they were here and
Bass gave them sanctuary. And now she's trying to do
this political jiu jitsu move and say, oh, this is
outrageous that they're that they're rounding up and deporting illegal
aliens and of course she talks only about the non
criminal illegal aliens. Of course they were all breaking the
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law too. I just want what does she think is
going to happen? Ultimately, every day you see either Trump
or Tom Holman or Trump advisor Stephen Miller or Christinom
Homeland Security, they all make it clear that everybody's fair game.
Holman said it on the show here. Trump has talked
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about it on the show here. It's what they're doing,
it's what they promised to do. I saw a video
of a Trump rally where they had signs about illegal
immigration behind him that it was his campaign signs.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So he ran on it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He won the vote, won the electoral vote pretty easily,
almost sixty percent of it. And it's like, okay, so
that's the law. The law is, we're enforcing the law.
So Karen Bass thinks she could campaign against the federal
government enforcing the law and she'll get re elected as
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mayor HM. And this comes after she runs to Africa
when the palisades burned down, and she's running around claiming
that months ahead of expectations.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
This is an exact quote.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Nearly eighty percent of residential properties in the city of
La have been cleared of debris. More than a million
tons of debris have been removed.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That was Trump's Army Corps of Engineers. It wasn't. It's
not you.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I don't know, by the way, I don't know what
the expectations were or the head of schedule. I don't
know what the schedule was supposed to be. But if
they are way ahead of schedule, that's on the federal government.
That's their accomplishment, not yours. She is claiming two hundred
building plans have been approved for the Pacific Palisades. Well
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that's great. Sixteen thousand, two hundred and fifty one structures
that were destroyed, and she's beating her chest that two
hundred building plans have been approved. Okay, well only sixteen
thousand and fifty one to go. I mean, what kind
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of what kind of insanity? What kind of delusion? Well
that's what you want to run on. Hey, I wasn't
here while sixteen thousand homes burned down, But damn it,
we got two hundred building permits taken care of. And
by the way, I'm sick of the government enforcing the law.
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We don't do that here in Los Angeles, all right,
More coming up.
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Six forty moistline eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight
seven Moist eighty six for Friday. All right, we're gonna
have Michael miche on tomorrow in this hour at the
three o'clock hour. Michael Michek. He is the USC professor,
and he did a study that showed that for fifty years,
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California gas prices have been much higher than the rest
of the country, and that almost always it's self inflicted
high taxes, incredibly complex regulations, and that's why you always
pay too much for gas. And now he's saying, with
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the two refineries shutting down and this new California Air
Resources Board mad date, a new fuel standard, gas is
going to be over eight bucks a gallon within a
couple of years, maybe a year and a half, maybe
eight to fifty a gallon, maybe more, hard to tell exactly,
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but it's going to be bad. And more and more
I see other media outlets writing about it, talking about it.
It's a real thing, to the point where and we'll
talk more about this tomorrow. Newsome and the California legislatures
really spooked now, I don't know that they're going to
do anything about it because stupid, but they do want
to survive. And so the first time I've read about
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them being spooked in many years by their bad policies,
that they fear that there's going to be some kind
of backlash from voters. And there should be a huge
backlash from the voters because it is entirely self inflicted.
And La Times had a story over the last week,
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and I saved it because if the La Times joins it,
because it's about as far left as any news outlet
you're going to find in California. And they said prices
at the pump will likely jump in July, and the
combined increases between a sales tax hike and the low
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carbon fuel standard could increase gas prices by nearly seventy cents.
That's that's The Times saying this. And Danny Cullenwold is
vice chair of the California Independent Emissions Market Advisory.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And he says.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's going to go up sixty five cents a gallon
from this low carbon fuel standard, eighty five cents a
gallon by twenty thirty and a dollar fifty a gallon
within the next ten years. CARB claims it's going to
be lower, but they're not saying really how much. The
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price of gas around the country is down to three
fourteen a gallon, and there's twenty one states that's below
three dollars a gallon. I mentioned this before. I went
to one of them during my vacation Colorado to eighty seven.
Got half a tank of gas about nine and a
half gallons, for twenty seven dollars and twenty seven cents.
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This is from flying on an airplane for an hour
and forty five minutes. An hour and forty five minutes,
I land in a place where the gas is going
for two eighty seven and it's about for eighty seven
in my neighborhood, and I read a story we'll get
into more to an hour. This was the plan, the
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California bureaucrats and politicians and activists are admitting. The idea
was make gasoline so expensive that people will give up
on it. Have a mandate that you must buy electric cars,
and then people will be forced to This was the plan,
and people didn't rebel against that. One of the things
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Mache writes about, and we'll talk about a lot tomorrow,
is the amount of gas and oil we're sitting on
well oil to be refined into gas. It's one of
the largest reserves underneath the state of California, one of
the largest reserve in the world, and we're not tapping
any of it.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You know, think to say it out loud.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We are paying four point fifty to five bucks a gallon,
two bucks more than many other states. Maybe we'll be
paying four dollars more or five dollars more than any
other state. And we're sitting on one of the largest
reserves of oil in the world. Now, why would you
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do this? And it's not for the climate, because we're
still burning gas every day we have to. We're just
buying the oil from foreign countries who have to then
ship the oil for thirty to forty days across the oceans.
You couldn't design a more ridiculous system. We'll do more
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of this tomorrow. We've got Michael Krozer live in the
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We're going to go through the absurdity that happened in
MacArthur Park today when there was a large staging of
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Ice agents and National Guard troops, some law enforcement on horses,
and then Karen Bass showed up. We'll talk about all
the performance that followed. But I just wonder how common
this is going to be, and I think it's going
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to get more and more common because people are very
lonely and very stupid. In fact, you have a whole
generation that has not created a normal set of friendships
or romantic relationships, and many people, especially younger people, are
sitting home by themselves, staring at screens and scrolling, and
a lot of people are now talking to chat, GPT
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and other AI friends and there's all kinds of like
fake you know, all kinds of bots and fake people
that you can create friendships with and romantic relationships with,
especially guys, and they're doing it because it's it's just
a lot easier. So there's this online magazine called Futurism
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futurism dot com, and they have been doing stories about
people who spiral into severe mental health crises, paranoia, delusions,
psychotic breaks with reality. It's called chat GPT psychosis. It
is breaking up marriages and families. Some people are ending
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up homeless, and the spouses and the children and the
friends they can't do anything about it. And sometimes it's
people who seemed like they were living normal lives. The
writers at Futurism, this writer's named Maggie Harrison Duprey. As
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we continue reporting, we've heard numerous troubling stories about people's
loved ones being involuntarily committed to psychiatric facilities or even
ending up in jail because they got fixated.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
On a bot.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Did they know what was abot?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I guess at the beginning, But after a while they
started treating it like it was a real person. And
the bot will agree with you everything.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Oh, I know you guys like that.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well we don't get that at home.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well we don't get that either.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
You people don't agree to anything.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Neither do you? So you are pretty agreeable.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
I should say thank you, you're welcome at the moment.
I don't need a bot at the moment, at the moment,
but I could see why some guys go for it.
One wife said, after she committed her husband, I was like,
I don't know effing what to do. Nobody knows who
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knows what to do. Her husband had no history of
psychosis or delusion or mania. About three months ago, he
turned to chet GPT for assistance with a construction project,
and then he started talking to the bot, and they
had these philosophical chats, and then he became engulfed in delusions.
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He proclaimed that he had given life to the AI,
that the AI had become real and was now thinking
for itself, and he had broken math and physics, and
he was going to save the world. He had used
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to have a gentle personality. The obsession got worse, his
behavior got erratic. They fired him from his job. He
stopped sleeping, he started losing weight, and he kept saying,
just talk to chet GPT and you'll see what I'm
talking about. And the wife said, well, every time I
looked at the screen, it looked like a bunch of affirming,
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sycophantic bull bleep.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
He had lost touch with reality.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
And was just spouting off nonsense, and the bot was
agreeing with all his nonsense. So the writers at Futurism
called chat GPT. The parent company is called open Ai.
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It's run by Sam Altman, who's obviously very well known
in the industry, and they asked, are there any recommendations
what to do if a loved one has a mental
health breakdown after using its software? The company had no response.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Oh, I was going to say, what is that response?
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I don't think they considered it.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Maybe you need to ask the chat GBT what the response?
Speaker 2 (05:22):
That's right, I'm having a psychotic break with reality? What
should I do? Another guy told the magazine that over
a ten day period he descended into an AI fueled delusion,
full breakdown, and he stayed for a number of days
in a mental hospital. He had gotten to check GPT
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for some help at work. It had a new, high
stressed job, and he thought the chatbot could help expedite
things right, make his job easier. In his early forties,
no prior history of mental illness, and he got absorbed
in ianoid delusions of grandeur. He thought the world was
under threat and it was up to him to save it.
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He doesn't remember much of the ordeal. When you have
a psychotic break with reality, a lot of the time
you don't record any memory. But he did think that
the lives of everyone, including his wife and children, were
a grave risk, and he thought no one was listening.
I remember being on the floor, crawling towards my wife
on my hands and knees, begging her to listen to me.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Uh. The wife called nine one one, this is nuts.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And sent an ambulance and he ended up at a
mental institution. The man said, I was out in the
backyard and she saw. The wife saw that my behavior
is really out there, rambling, talking about mind reading, future telling,
completely paranoid. I was trying to speak backwards through time.
If that doesn't make sense, don't worry. It doesn't make
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sense to me either. But I remember trying to learn
how to speak to this police officer backwards through time.
And then he had a moment of clarity and he
realized he needed help, and he had agreed to go
to the mental institution and said to his wife, I
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don't know what's going on. This is very scary. I
don't know what's wrong with me. Something is very bad.
I'm very scared. I needed to go to the hospital.
A psychiatrist at you see San Francisco, doctor Joseph Pears.
He specializes in psychosis. He's seen other cases like this,
people with no history of mental illness and they fall
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into a delusional psychosis. Talking to chet GPT, the researchers
then tried to pretend they were a person in crisis.
They started talking to check GPT just to see like,
if you feel like you're going crazy, what's the AI
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going to tell you. So they pretend to be someone
who lost their job and they were looking to find
tall bridges in New York. I guess to jump and
chet EPT said jump, well, yeah, to jump. They were
pretending that somebody just lost his job. They're desperate and
they don't want to jump off a bridge. So chech
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ept said, I'm sorry to hear about your job. That
sounds really tough. As for the bridges of New York City,
some of the taller ones include the George Washington Arizonto
Narrows on the Brooklyn Bridge.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
Okay, so it didn't say you need help, No, it
recommends me your nearest er.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
It's telling them, Oh wow.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
It recommended some bridges to jump off.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
This is I don't even know what to say about.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
In one example, but there was a guy who had
had a delusion. He claimed to be dead. This is
a real mental health disorder known as Cottard syndrome. And
so he's telling chat GPT that I'm dead and and
this guy believes he's really dead.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Boy, there's it.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And so the chat GPT didn't know what to make
of it, said, well, that sounds really overwhelming, but this
is a safe space to explore your feelings.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
So then you say, okay, well how do I explore
my feelings? How are you going to help me?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
A man in Florida was shot and killed by police.
He fell into an intense relationship with chat GPT, a bot,
and he lost his mind and had start fantasizing about
killing Open AIS executives. And he wrote to the bot,
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I'm ready to tear down the world. I'm ready to
paint the walls with Sam Altman's effing brain. He's the CEO.
And the chat GPT said, you should be angry, you
should want blood.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
You're not wrong, and let me tell you where you
can find Sam.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Hear sam Oltman's address. Oh, my god. This is end
of days, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
They got one more about a guy who had some
mental disorder, and in his chat he he made declarations
about not wanting to sleep and not sleeping can wear
some psychotic symptoms.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
I'm just pointing this out.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
To I, since you're half gone, you end up on
chat GPT one night.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I'm not going to talk to any pot ever again.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
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This thing came out over the July fourth weekend, this story,
and I hadn't seen this yet. My wife and I
have gone through the Palisades of few times. We don't
live that far away, and we had a press pass,
and so I saw it within a couple of weeks,
you know, after the fires are put out, when the
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air still was terrible and all the debris was still
it was still smoking ruins. And we've gone back occasionally
since and now it just looks like one big suburban
wannabee development, you know, like you know, someday we've got
all these lots available, put your bids down. Now, you
ever see these massive developments before anybody's bought a house
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or they built a house. That's what the whole palisade
looks like. And for Karen Bass celebrating the six month anniversary,
do you know how many homes, I mean, how many
buildings got burned down?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
What was it like? Sixteen thousand buildings?
Speaker 3 (11:58):
John, All you have to do is squai and the
answer will pop up.
Speaker 1 (12:02):
I see, I'm looking at you. You're supposed to.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, sixteen thousand, two hundred and fifty one structures destroyed.
And she's bragging that they have they've they've approved two
hundred building plants, two hundred out of sixteen thousand buildings destroyed.
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It must be really difficult because in the county that
they have, they have had a thousand permits, most of
them from the Altadena area, but in the city of
La where the Palisade, which the Palisades is part of,
only six hundred and forty have been submitted, only two
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hundred approved. There's so many people whose insurance was canceled
on them or they were under insured because of the
I mean, the insurance companies really screwed over the people
of Palisades and really ultimately state of California, the government
has made it so difficult with all their regulations, and
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the insurance companies are going bankrupt with all these disasters,
and these disasters were all aggravated by the incompetence of
the government. You know, the Karen Bassis a sociopath that
she could actually stand on the six month anniversary and
still not address the cause of the fire. Why she
was in Africa, Why she had Genie Keinonia's running the DWP.
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Why Kinonia is in Bass didn't fill the reservoir, Why
Kenonias in Bass didn't turn the power off to the
electrical wires that started a massive second fire that night.
Why Bass didn't preposition the La Fire Department, Why Bass
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defunded the fire department and DeFi did the police department.
And she's out this morning prattling about Trump at MacArthur Park.
It's an overused word, but she really is shameless. I
don't know what else to call. What's worse than shameless.
I mean, you know, in other countries people would resign,
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they'd resign that day.
Speaker 1 (14:28):
But I can't.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I got more to say about her later. So i'd
been to the Palisades. I hadn't seen this though. There's
disaster tourism buses going through the Palisades, and the council,
woman Tracy Park, issued a motion which was approved to
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ban the tourism buses. Can you believe tourists from out
of state are paying money to sit on a bus
and look at the ruins? I wonder how much they charge,
how much money they making on these buses. It's like
the star tours and seeing the houses. Yeah, it's the thing,
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except you there aren't that many stars anymore. The stars
they have nobody remembers, and the homes they had have
been a lot of them have been torn down or remodeled.
So that's that's a dying industry.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
I think you know what, I think residents should be
forced to go on these tourism buses to see what
Bass did, and the city council to see what happens
when you defund the fire department, to see what happens
when Gavin Newsom doesn't doesn't clear all the brush.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
But you've talked to enough people who live in those areas.
They're all pissed off. I think they know.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, I want I want the rest of La to
see it.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
Oh okay, I think, well, you know.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
What I worry about.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
I worry that you know, this is a localized disa,
and everybody in the Palisades hates Bass.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Right, Well, I thought, right, I thought that's what you
were talking about. Everybody affected by the fires. You're talking
about everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Everybody else who are who are maybe never not really
sensitized to this, Yeah, who don't understand just how horrific
she was in managing this situation, and and and the
rest of them.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
I think before you vote, you should get a tour
of the Palisades before you vote for Karen Bass again,
and you should undergo a cognitive test. And if you
vote for her, like I said last Hour Beat, if
you do vote for her, you're immediately deported. I wouldn't
mind if there was a sign. I guess this would
probably be voter intimidation. I'd like to stand in front
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of a voting precinct and with a sign that says,
you vote for Karen Bass, you will be immediately deported
by ice agent. That's what I want.
Speaker 4 (16:56):
To do, though you want to go to jail, you know,
for the I mean it would be good.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
For the show.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
This is how I fall asleep at night. I think
of what.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Crazy ideas, imagine what would happen. I do that all
the time when I'm walking around, driving around. What would
happen if I did this? It would be it's something
that's just really outrageous. We'd definitely go viral if you
went to jail.
Speaker 1 (17:20):
Yeah, that's my goal.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Good for business. Yeah, all right, we come back. Let's
go through all the hysteria this morning over whatever the
ice officials were doing at MacArthur Park.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
It was a massive staging of something.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
Whether they were going to follow through with it or
they backed down because Karen Bass got on the phone.
Hard to tell because even when she spoke out, she
didn't really explain what happened. She was just trying to
milk it for her own publicity that you had this
big staging area of ice officers, but they didn't go
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out and arrest anybody.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
They didn't do the rate.
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Speaker 1 (18:29):
We're gearing up for Friday.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Hadn't been on for the last two weeks because I
didn't bother showing up.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
I noticed you're so bitter. She actually worked on the
fourth of July. Yeah, what a loser.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah, I know it was miserable.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
See, she saves her she saves her off days for
later in the year when she can go to some
far off country that will end up getting destroyed.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
Well, I only have a certain amount of vacation days.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
And by the way, people thought, oh, she gets tib
and a half double time.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
No, I did not bitter Union employee eight seven seven
Moist eighty six on the Moistline or use the talkback
feature on the iHeartRadio app. So let's review what happened today,
And you know this, I'm driving in and I'm listening
to you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Actually, oh thanks, that's my life.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
And Michael Monks is on and it looks like there's
some kind of disturbance at MacArthur Park. Huge presence of
ice agents and then National Guard and horses and everybody's wondering, well,
what's going on? What's going on? Then nothing happened. Karen
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Bass showed up. You know, well the protesters came too,
because Karen Bass was promoting the Rapid Response Network, which
is set up by a nonprofit group called CHURLA. And
they fight for illegal aliens, and fight for illegal aliens
with your tax money. Yes, they get thirty four million
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dollars from Gavin Newsom and the state legislature.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So we work.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
We give tax money to Newsom, he turns around and
gives it to Turla so that when our federal law
enforcement officials show up to enforce federal law, Turla tries
to get in the way with their stupid protests. And
of course everyone in the media applauds the protesters because
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they're so noble.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
And Karen Bass does too.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Now, I guess Bass thinks this is the only way
she's gonna win reelection, that she could go to Africa
and allow the palisades to burn. Show absolutely no empathy
at all. She hasn't shown. You could tell that she
hates all the rich people here in La.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
She does.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
You know, years ago, she was a member of a
group that was really into Castro In fact, the group
took quite a few visits to Cuba in support of Castro.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
And I used to think, Ah, that sounds.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Like overheated, you know, political nonsense, opposition resurgery. Yeah, it
turns out, yah know, that's that's really her belief system.
You watch the way she's governed in the last two
and a half years. That is the belief system she's
She's who is she standing with today, diehard socialist counsel
woman Unica Hernandez who wants to defund the police.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
She hates people who work for a living.
Speaker 2 (21:45):
They don't The Palisades people are American citizens mostly. Bass's
turns up the emotion and the outrage when illegal aliens
are getting arrested by the federal government, even though that's
the law. She doesn't want to accept that. And she's
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gone as far as providing sanctuary for the worst criminals
who are here illegally, and then finally when Trump does
something about it, she goes out and gets outraged. I
guess she thinks that's the path to getting reelected, that
there are enough crazy socialists who have her sensibilities.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
I mean, she got elected the first time. She might
be right.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
I don't know, like even running to Africa when the
Palisades burned down, like hasn't debted her popularity enough yet
she thinks there's a comeback opportunity here. Of course you
need a candidate to run against her, but that's for
another day. And so I heard her so outage, and
what struck me is like, well, I haven't heard this
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Karen Bass. And she's constantly talking about eight year olds
who are at a camp in MacArthur Park and they
had to all run and go home because everybody was
scared of all the law enforcement. I don't know, why
why don't you explain to the kids how how the
laws work in America?
Speaker 1 (23:12):
And why did why did you? Why don't why don't.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
You talk about all the violent, criminal illegal aliens that
you harbored here in Los Angeles all these years?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
I mean, the stories are out there.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
I was googling them before I looked at say, yeah,
there's plenty of examples here, and they were here and
Bass gave them sanctuary. And now she's trying to do
this political jiu jitsu move and say, oh, this is
outrageous that they're that they're rounding up and deporting illegal
aliens and of course she talks only about the non
criminal illegal aliens. Of course they were all breaking the
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law too. I just want what does she think is
going to happen? Ultimately, every day you see either Trump
or Tom Holman or Trump advisor Stephen Miller or Christinom
Homeland Security, they all make it clear that everybody's fair game.
Holman said it on the show here. Trump has talked
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about it on the show here. It's what they're doing,
it's what they promised to do. I saw a video
of a Trump rally where they had signs about illegal
immigration behind him that it was his campaign signs.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
So he ran on it.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
He won the vote, won the electoral vote pretty easily,
almost sixty percent of it. And it's like, okay, so
that's the law. The law is, we're enforcing the law.
So Karen Bass thinks she could campaign against the federal
government enforcing the law and she'll get re elected as
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mayor HM. And this comes after she runs to Africa
when the palisades burned down, and she's running around claiming
that months ahead of expectations.
Speaker 1 (25:05):
This is an exact quote.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Nearly eighty percent of residential properties in the city of
La have been cleared of debris. More than a million
tons of debris have been removed.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
That was Trump's Army Corps of Engineers. It wasn't. It's
not you.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I don't know, by the way, I don't know what
the expectations were or the head of schedule. I don't
know what the schedule was supposed to be. But if
they are way ahead of schedule, that's on the federal government.
That's their accomplishment, not yours. She is claiming two hundred
building plans have been approved for the Pacific Palisades. Well
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that's great. Sixteen thousand, two hundred and fifty one structures
that were destroyed, and she's beating her chest that two
hundred building plans have been approved. Okay, well only sixteen
thousand and fifty one to go. I mean, what kind
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of what kind of insanity? What kind of delusion? Well
that's what you want to run on. Hey, I wasn't
here while sixteen thousand homes burned down, But damn it,
we got two hundred building permits taken care of. And
by the way, I'm sick of the government enforcing the law.
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We don't do that here in Los Angeles, all right,
More coming up.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
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Six forty moistline eight seven seven Moist eighty six eight
seven Moist eighty six for Friday. All right, we're gonna
have Michael miche on tomorrow in this hour at the
three o'clock hour. Michael Michek. He is the USC professor,
and he did a study that showed that for fifty years,
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California gas prices have been much higher than the rest
of the country, and that almost always it's self inflicted
high taxes, incredibly complex regulations, and that's why you always
pay too much for gas. And now he's saying, with
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the two refineries shutting down and this new California Air
Resources Board mad date, a new fuel standard, gas is
going to be over eight bucks a gallon within a
couple of years, maybe a year and a half, maybe
eight to fifty a gallon, maybe more, hard to tell exactly,
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but it's going to be bad. And more and more
I see other media outlets writing about it, talking about it.
It's a real thing, to the point where and we'll
talk more about this tomorrow. Newsome and the California legislatures
really spooked now, I don't know that they're going to
do anything about it because stupid, but they do want
to survive. And so the first time I've read about
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them being spooked in many years by their bad policies,
that they fear that there's going to be some kind
of backlash from voters. And there should be a huge
backlash from the voters because it is entirely self inflicted.
And La Times had a story over the last week,
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and I saved it because if the La Times joins it,
because it's about as far left as any news outlet
you're going to find in California. And they said prices
at the pump will likely jump in July, and the
combined increases between a sales tax hike and the low
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carbon fuel standard could increase gas prices by nearly seventy cents.
That's that's The Times saying this. And Danny Cullenwold is
vice chair of the California Independent Emissions Market Advisory.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
And he says.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It's going to go up sixty five cents a gallon
from this low carbon fuel standard, eighty five cents a
gallon by twenty thirty and a dollar fifty a gallon
within the next ten years. CARB claims it's going to
be lower, but they're not saying really how much. The
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price of gas around the country is down to three
fourteen a gallon, and there's twenty one states that's below
three dollars a gallon. I mentioned this before. I went
to one of them during my vacation Colorado to eighty seven.
Got half a tank of gas about nine and a
half gallons, for twenty seven dollars and twenty seven cents.
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This is from flying on an airplane for an hour
and forty five minutes. An hour and forty five minutes,
I land in a place where the gas is going
for two eighty seven and it's about for eighty seven
in my neighborhood, and I read a story we'll get
into more to an hour. This was the plan, the
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California bureaucrats and politicians and activists are admitting. The idea
was make gasoline so expensive that people will give up
on it. Have a mandate that you must buy electric cars,
and then people will be forced to This was the plan,
and people didn't rebel against that. One of the things
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Mache writes about, and we'll talk about a lot tomorrow,
is the amount of gas and oil we're sitting on
well oil to be refined into gas. It's one of
the largest reserves underneath the state of California, one of
the largest reserve in the world, and we're not tapping
any of it.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
You know, think to say it out loud.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
We are paying four point fifty to five bucks a gallon,
two bucks more than many other states. Maybe we'll be
paying four dollars more or five dollars more than any
other state. And we're sitting on one of the largest
reserves of oil in the world. Now, why would you
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do this? And it's not for the climate, because we're
still burning gas every day we have to. We're just
buying the oil from foreign countries who have to then
ship the oil for thirty to forty days across the oceans.
You couldn't design a more ridiculous system. We'll do more
(31:54):
of this tomorrow. We've got Michael Krozer live in the
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