May 21, 2025 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (05/21) - San Luis Obispo County DA Dan Dow comes on the show to talk about why he is urging Gov. Newsom to reverse the early release of a convicted child murderer. Armenians connected to the Russian mob were arrested in the San Fernando Valley. More on how fireworks possibly caused the Palisades Fire after new video has been released. More on Atladena residents not getting proper evacuation warnings during the fires.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
Today's show will be posted shortly after four o'clock. A
few weeks ago, we talked about a murderer, and this
is particularly terrible. Herbert Brown's his name, Herbert David Brown,
the third. You know, murderers always have their full name
publicized so you don't get confused with other Herbert Brown's.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, he's serving a life sentence.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He murdered his twenty two month old baby daughter, Lily Summer,
and somewhere along the way Herbert decided he was a
woman and wanted to be known as Ali Brown. And
the Parole Board has decided that a guy who kills
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his baby daughter ought to get parole. And that's what
happened on April twenty second. That's what the Parole Board says. Now,
the governor has thirty days to reverse the decision, which
means if he's going to reverse it, it has to
happen by Thursday. Thursday, May twenty second, So he's got
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two days left today and tomorrow to reverse the parole
Newsom does. Let's talk with the District Attorney in San
Louis Obispo County, Dan Dao, who told us about this
case a few weeks back.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Dan, welcome, How are you John?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm well, but I'm I'm a little anxious because we
don't have much time left for the governor to act.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Do you how do I mean, how does this work?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Do you get to make a presentation to the governor
to oppose him approving of the parole or do you
just sitting and waiting for thirty days?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, our proposal and presentation to him was a very
detailed letter. It was a five page letter plus a
lot of attachments that we could not release publicly, including
transcripts of the prole boards hearing statements from the inmate himself.
And we were able to show, I believe in our
letter to the governor that the parole board made their
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decision without adequately fully looking at his history while he's
been in prison, without adequately considering the gravity of the
crime that he committed. And so the California Constitution gives
the governor thirty days after a granted parole has been given.
It's literally an Article five of the Constitution. If the
conviction and the sentence was for a murderer. There are
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other processes for people that aren't in for murder, but
in every murder, once that decision has been made, the
governor can reverse it within thirty days, And so I
would tell you that procedurally. Right now, I'm a little
more skeptical than I was even at the beginning, but
I know there's still hope. A lot of people around
the state have reached out to him, and I'm hoping
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that your listeners today will call the governor's office. And
we've got his phone number. We're willing to give it
out the governor's office. The capital is nine one six
four four five two eight four one. That's nine one
six four four five two eight four to one, and
we're just asking for justice for baby Lily. I can't
imagine that a baby murder is being granted early parole. Frankly,
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he should never be released, but they're giving him more.
They're giving him three years off of his sentence that
he was sentenced to fifteen years to life. That means
he should have served every day of fifteen years before
even being considered not he should not be allowed.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Dig murders his two year old daughter and to get
out in twelve years.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And he cracked her skull. I mean, it's horrific. Let's
I hate to even talk about him.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know, but I think you have to because most
of the public still doesn't know what this case is about.
Why don't you give us a rundown of how he
killed her?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So Herbert David Brown the third lived in passer Robles
here in beautiful San Louis Bispo County, and he had
he was required to have visitation into the baby's mother
were not married at the time, they were not together,
but he was required to have some visitation as what
I'm remembering now from the mother dn summer. And he
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was a drug addict. He was known to be a
meth user, and he, instead of taking care of his child,
put his own addiction ahead of the child. And while
he was into the influence, was very irritated by the
fact that this twenty two month old was sick, wasn't
eating well, and so rather than provide loving care, he
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got angry and he inflicted abuse against her. Where we
don't have all the facts because we weren't there, but
we had to piece it together from what we did
learn and what we were able to discover in the investigation.
But the baby's skull was cracked. She had, you know,
symptoms prior to that that we later learned that she
had been sick and was not eating, and so Herbert
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Brown didn't know how to deal with it. He inflicted
horrific injuries all over her body, including a cracked skull.
She died in the hospital just shortly after the emergency
personnel we're able to finally arrive at the scene of his.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Home, and then Herbert Brown becomes Ali Brown becomes a woman.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's right, and that all happened in prison, long after
he was convicted. Our office has never given any formal
notification of it, but all the paperwork that the Department
of Correction sends to us now on him refers to
the name Ali Brown. I've never seen anything with a
formal name change. And it's my understanding that in prison,
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if an inmate declares that they are the other gender,
that it's a fairly simple process for them to get
affirmed and get support and get all of the medical
treatment necessary. In fact, since twenty seventeen in California, it's
basically been law and regulation that we will pay for
gender reassignment for prisoners in state prison.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right, But we don't know if he went through all
the way with the.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We don't and I really have no information of that.
But the fact that the parole board is referring to
him as a her, and they're referring to him as
you know, the baby as being his daughter or her daughter,
and that is a you know, a real I believe
it's an insult. My belief is that it's an insult
to the baby's true mother, Don Summer, who is absolutely
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in agony over this. She's been in agony since the
crime happened, and she's appealing as well for justice for
baby Lily. And I'm hoping that people today will just
make the governor's phone ring off the hook. And what
people do when they call that numbers press one for
English and then press six to speak to a staff member.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What is the parole board's argument for letting him out
after twelve years? I mean this, I don't think I've
heard of a case like this where you kill your
own little daughter and you're out after twelve years. I mean,
this is really breaking new ground. Maybe this is going
on every day now. I just don't know about it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, I think it's going on a lot more than
what we would like to think. And Prop fifty seven
as actually what made it happen. It was supposed to
be only for non violent offenders getting early release, but Prop.
Fifty seven granted to the Department of Corrections the law
legal authority to write new regulations awarding early credits extra
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service time credits to anyone, including those in for violent
offenses and murder. It actually conflicts with and there's a
lawsuit right now that the DA's Association has had on
file for several years. It's in the Sacramento Areas at
the Court of Appeal. We won in the trial court,
but the effect of that has been stayed until the
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decision gets released by the Court of Appeal. We're hoping
that the Court of Appeal will say it was unconstitutional
to change the law this way and to allow credits
for people serving time for murder. But nonetheless, many people
are being released early because of this extra credit that
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they're getting that the Department of Corrections can award to them,
and that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
They go by, just how the math works.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
If you rack up enough of these fake credits, then okay,
we're letting you out. I mean, is there any look
into I mean, he's a psychopath, obviously, he's a violent psychopath.
And that doesn't get cured in prison. That never gets cured.
It's the same guy coming out that went in twelve
years ago.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, that's certainly our concern. And beyond that, you know,
I know from our review of the records that we
do not believe that he's been rehabilitated. We don't believe
that he's taken accountability for what he did, and we
don't believe he's addressed his addiction. And he doesn't have
a plan for when he gets out of prison and
what he's going to do. And first of all, you know,
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of the one of the goals of our criminal and
victim justice system is accountability and punishment. And he hasn't
served enough of a punishment for the death of his
twenty two month innocent child. How old is See he
is early forties.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Early forties.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He kills his daughter, and he's going to be out
in his early forties.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Does Newsom have to publicly decide one day or one
way or another.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Or can he just let it happen without putting his
name on it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
He does not have to do. If he does nothing,
then the Parole Board's order goes into effect, you know,
without any other without anything else happening, which is why
it's so important that he get the pressure. You know,
we had a receipt and acknowledgment receipt of our package
that we sent on on April twenty fifth to the
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Governor's office. They acknowledge receipt. I have since inquired of
the governor's staff that works on these packets to ask
for an update. They have not replied, and I think
they're probably not allowed to reply. Once they receive something,
it's up to the governor and his staff to decide
what they're going to do. And I just confirmed you.
Herbert David Brown, who now goes by Ali Brown, was
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born in July of nineteen eighty three, so he's not
even yet forty two years old and has not served
a full well, he's just served twelve years in state
prison for the murder of his child.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Governor Newsom's number nine one six four four five two
eight four one that's nine one, six, four, four, five
two eight four to one. You press one for English
and then what's the next number?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You press six to speak to a staff member. Okay,
I should they should refer to him as Ali Hazel Brown.
That's the way the Governor's office is tracking the case.
And the inmate's serial number is a Y for Alpha
Yankee two two two seven, so they can refer to
inmate Ali Hazel Brown inmate number a Y two two
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two seven.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, I hope every single person listening will make the
phone call and support little baby Lily Summer twenty two
months old and killed brutally by her father known as
Herbert Brown at the time. Now Allie Hazel Brown, and
Newsom has two days to reverse this decision. He could
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do nothing and then Ali Brown gets free. Anyway, That's
just this is so overwhelmingly unbelievable. Well, Dan, I hope
Newsom does the right thing.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I hope so as well. He has in a few
other cases where we've petitioned like this, I don't think
we've ever had it be on this close to the
end of the deadline. So it's our hope that he
that he does the right thing. And I appreciate you
getting the word out to your listeners.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
All right, Dan, we'll talk again soon. Thank you, thank you,
all right again.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The numbers nine one, six, four, four, five two eight
four to one, and you call Governor Newsom's office press
one for English and then press six to talk to
a staff member. And the inmate's name is Allie Hazel
Brown and busted the skull of his twenty two month
old baby dollar daughter, Lily Summer. And he would only
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serve twelve years in prison because of the lunatic psychotics.
On the pearl Board war coming up.
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
This story, I was really baffled by it. First, you
may have heard thirteen people have been arrested part of
an Armenian crime syndicate headquartered in the San Fernando Valley
in La County, and they were connected to the Russian mafia.
All right, so you have thirteen Armenians connected to the
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Russian mafia. The syndicate is known as a Tourra tect
that's Russian for authority, and they've been in a violent
feud to maintain control of the San Fernando Valley for
the last three years. This was a federal investigation. The
main feud was between a guy from Porta Ranch named
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Arra Artuni and his rival, Robert Emerian from Hollywood. And
what jumped out at me though, is our Tunis organization
stole eighty three million dollars from Amazon, according to the Feds.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And when I heard about this, I thought, well, how the.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Hell do you steal eighty three million dollars worth of goods? Well,
what this crime syndicate did is they enrolled with Amazon
as uh carriers delivery guys. They got hired and they
contracted for trucking routes and their trucks would fill up
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with the goods and then they would steal the goods.
They would just drive off and steal the shipment. I
guess they did this over and over again. Boy, Amazon's
investigative mechanism must be awfully slow, because they didn't catch
on until eighty three million dollars. Of how many drivers
you think they had on the take, I don't know. Well,
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they only have thirteen who got arrested, but yeah, it
seems like should be a lot more than thirteen drivers.
And so they all got trucking round. I mean, Amazon
doesn't do much in the way of background checks, do
they no vetting? There?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I guess as long as you have a driver's license.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And all these trucks were driven off, and all this
stuff was never delivered, and it must all be in
the San Fernando Valley. There must be thousands and thousands
of people who've been banging on Amazon saying where's my stuff?
I never got it, which I assume is what led
the Feds to bust up this ring eighty three million dollars.
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How does that go on for more than a few days,
when one truck worth of goods disappears, and then another
and another. Jee wouldn't somebody jeez Bezos is too busy
with Lauren Sanchez. You see, there's a photo of him
in one of the tablet spanking Laurn Sanchez. I saw that, yeah, yeah,
and so that's why the there a belt with a hand.
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She was laid out, you know, half naked on a
on a beach chair, maybe on their on their So
he's busy and he's standing there smiling and smacking her.
But in meantime, these guys are running off with eighty
three million dollars of Amazon.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Good when you got billions.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I guess you can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, yes, you know, when you you have that midlife crisis.
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two rounds of the Moistline on Friday. All right, There's
there's information coming out today about both major fires palisades
in Altadena, and there's actually a thread between the two
involving fire chiefs. And I'll get to Altadena in just
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a minute. But they had a big story in the
Alley Times today how they still can't figure out why
evacuation warnings did not go out to people in West
Altadena and there were deaths in West Altadena because nobody
knew the fire was about to burn their homes and
burn them alive. And some people in West Altadena didn't
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get any notification until five in the morning, which was
eleven hours after the fire started, and nobody wants to
take responsibility, and the Ally Times suggests it's human error.
We'll get to that in a minute. The San Francisco
Chronicle got video. You see, San Diego has wildlife cameras
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up in the Anamonic Mountains all through the mountains, in
the in the in those well the areas where the
wildlife lives. That's primarily what they're used for. They're also
very helpful when fires break out. In fact, u see
San Diego camera captured video which was released a few
weeks ago showing that secondary fires blew up twelve hours
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after the first fire because the idiots Genis Quinonez, she
didn't turn the electricity off to the power lines twelve
hours into the fire, so eventually power poles collapsed, wires
came down on vegetation which were bone dry, and here
we go, you got more waves of fire started engulfing
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the palisades. So that that was captured by the cameras.
And you know, when they when they get to a
trial or they get to the settlement, that video is
going to be very powerful because just about everybody in
the government was asleep and then and then you have
the fire chief at the time, Crowley, and this is unforgivable.
And I'll just give you a quick rundown, and then
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we're going to play you this story from Channel seven.
San Francisco Chronicle got the videos from UC San Diego,
and it looks as if the fire, the big fire
on January seventh, started in the same place as in
New Year's Day morning fire. They have video of the
New Year's Morning fire. Supposedly young people started it with fireworks.
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It was in almost exactly the same place. It looks
to a lot of fire investigators who stared at the
video that these were old embers from the January first
fire that rekindled on January seventh, Which makes you wonder
why the LA Fire Department didn't have a crew standing over.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That hot spot.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Because the fire was put out in the first the
warnings for extreme fire danger and high winds came out
the next day on the second, So why wasn't a
crew keeping that area watered down treated in some way.
Let's play this story from Channel SEVENKBC.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
We're about to show you videos first obtained by the
San Francisco Chronicles. Some fire investigators believe it's clear video
evidence that a New Year's fire likely rekindled into the
most destructive fires in California history.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I think calling it a rekindle is a valid thing.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Retired fire investigator Terry Taylor has studied these two videos
obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle side by side. This
nighttime video is from right around midnight New Year's Day.
You see a flash on the ground and that a
fire up's near the top of a hill. This small
brush fire, dubbed the Lockman fire, sparked after neighbors say
they heard fireworks. We were in the neighborhood in the
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morning of New Year's and we heard some fireworks going
off around us.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And here's what that say.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You see San Diego camera captured around ten thirty am
on Tuesday, January seventh, These first flames exploded into the
Palisades fire. Let's show you them side by side again.
Some experts like Taylor, thing these videos support the theory
that the Palisades Fire started from a still smothering hot
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pocket left behind from that New Year's Day fire.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's certainly a good supposition.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
The theory is nothing new. Just days after the La fires,
sitting on your Side. Investigates showed you these side by
side satellite images showing the burn scar from January first
and the beginning of what would be the behemoth Palisades
Fire six days later. Just listen to what this Palisades
homeowner told us.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's there a connection. One percent. There's a connection.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Standing in the exact same X mark, looking in the
same direction, you'll see the same cloud of smoke in
the exact same spot. Both fires remain under investigation, so
the question of did L. E.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
F D miss a hotspot remains.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Acting Fire Chief Rodney Villa Nueva told us today he
doesn't want a Monday morning quarterback because he wasn't chief
when either fire sparred. Hey, Chief, can we ask you
a few questions about this new reporting potentially linking the
lockman of Palisades fire.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Would you say I was?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I wasn't. And this afternoon I spoke to the acting
chief again over the phone. He says he has never
received a briefing that ever connects these two fires. Now,
the ATF is also investigating, and the agency told us
today no final conclusions have been made.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Rodney Fielanueva has never gotten a brief in connecting the
two fires. That that that theory has been banned around
and is being investigated by a lot of different agencies
right now. He really doesn't know anything about it, and
only he's got to say that he wasn't he wasn't
the fire chief. Then, seriously, what the hell, where's Christian Crowley?
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Where's Karen Bass? If you have a major fire? Oh
my god, on my So there's a big fire on
the first that morning, on the second, National Weather Service
sends out the fire warnings and the high wind warnings,
and there should have been fire crew watching that location,
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because over the next five days the warnings got more frightening,
more intense. Meantime, Karen Bass jumps on her plane to
Africa in spite of the warnings, In spite of this,
this fire area obviously still hot and then maybe it
explodes into flame on the seventh. What there was nobody around?
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Everybody in the fire industry knows a hot spot could
flare up within a week.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
This was six days. How could nobody be there?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Why didn't Kristen Crowley assign a crew permanently to that
area and as soon as it would start to because
that would be the number one area most likely to
flare up.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And they knew. You've ever seen the.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Weather maps on the news, they can tell you the
day before, two days before, three days before, where you're
going to get dangerous winds, almost exactly how strong the
winds are going to be, almost exactly what time the
winds are going to be. And you see those the
windflow right those lines with the arrows that are drawn
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across the maps. And as it was coming into the Palisades,
they were telling everybody for days that, yeah, this is
going to be sixty miles an hour, eighty miles an hour,
it would be passing right over the fire. Does anybody
in the fire depart and watched, Oh, I don't know.
ABC seven by the way, that was Kevin Osbecker did
the report from Channel seven. And then and then this, uh,
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this ridey Vianueva's I haven't heard anything about that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Maybe you haven't heard anything about it.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It hasn't come up. You've been the assistant fire chief
for months and it hasn't come up. They really think
this is going.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
To go away.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
How do you trust all these investigations now, which leads
me to Alta Dina and I'm going to get to
that next because you kind of have the same situation there.
These these evacuation warnings never went out, and nobody wants
to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
All these brave fire chiefs, like the.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
County fire chief in La Anthony Moron, suddenly his his
tongue gets tied. He can't speak either. Well, these brave
guys can't just like stand up and tell the truth.
You know stuff, of course, you know stuff. You've been
doing this decades. You know what's going on. They don't
seem to know why evacuation orders didn't go out to
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a neighborhood where people died. It's like five in the morning,
it's eleven hours into the fire. There's no evacuation warnings.
Like in the Palisades, twelve hours into the fire, Jenny's
Canonias did not turn off the electricity and so that
started more fires. What's wrong with these people? Why are
they here? Why are they earning hundreds and thousands of
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our dollars? Total failure protecting us, total failure, responding, total failure,
just doing the basics that an eight year old would
figure out. All right, we'll talk about the Altadena thing
when we come back.
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Speaker 1 (25:43):
Six forty after four o'clock, we'll post our podcast that
we had a lot of good stuff today. We had
Daniel gusson to talk about corruption at the La Zoo
of all places, and where those two poor elephants ended
up sentenced to go to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Carl Demio was
on to talk talk about how he got the Newsom
administration to admit that they're being investigated by the federal
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government for maybe misappropriating federal tax money for illegal alien healthcare.
And we also had a district attorney from San Luis
Obispo County, Daniel Dowon, pleading with all of you to
please contact Governor Newsom immediately because Newsom is about to
let out a prisoner who killed his two year old
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daughter and he's only served twelve months. So it's all
on the podcast, All right on the iHeartRadio John Cobolt
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Speaker 2 (26:34):
All right on the Altadena fire. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
The western Altadena there was no evacuation orders until three
thirty in the morning. The fire started about six at
night three point thirty a m. The next day, nine
hours several hours after smoking flames threatened West Altadena. Some
neighborhoods in Southwest Altadena weren't ordered to evacuate until Amost
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six a m. Twelve hours later. People in East Altadna
got their evacuation alerts the night before at six forty pm.
So it's twelve hours and nobody can explain what went wrong.
For three hours from midnight to three am, as the
Eton fire started to run west, no electronic evacuation alerts
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went out. Nobody, according to the La Times, has explained
what went wrong. They believe it's human error. They asked
the sheriff, Robert Luna, and he said the evacuation was
a collaborative effort, and he has said in the past that, well,
we're included in the decision making, but they're the lead.
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It says it's the county firefighters. They're the ones supposed
to decide where the evacuation messages go, even though it's
a unified command. I depend on the experts. I depend
on the experts. Nobody should depend on experts. Haven't they
been completely discredited yet? Is there's still people prattling on
about experts. Really, there's an Office of Emergency Management that
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was supposed to send out these alerts, and that team
says they sent an evacuation order to West out Diadena
soon after it was ordered to do so. So they're
blaming the county fire Department or the sheriff's officials, but
nobody wants to talk. The county fire chief said he
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doesn't know what went wrong. This is such a complex issue.
I think collectively, we all have to do better. Everybody
is saying that they don't remember a moment when they
realized they've made a mistake and messed up the evacuation
alerts for West Oultadena.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh well, just a bunch of people died.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
There's nobody keeping track of evacuation alert I know it's
chaotic out there, and the winds are blowing eighty one
hundred miles an hour, and the winds had switched direction,
But I don't know. It seems like there should be
some master control where they're very meticulous about who's evacuated,
winds are blowing, who's in danger next? How do you
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go twelve hours twelve and everybody knows it was a
screw up. Nobody is saying, oh, there's nothing we can't
know about. No, it's a massive screw up, but nobody
wants stick responsibility. They just go, I don't know. It's
like Rodney Vanueva, the La City interim fire chief. They're
asking him, Hey, how about these this this New Year's
Day fire? Or is this connected to the big fire eye?
(29:38):
You know, I wasn't I wasn't here. Then nobody has
the decency to say.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
My fault.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I screwed up, my department screwed up. Here are the
names of the people who work for me who screwed
up and why we screwed up, and we're sorry, and
we're all going to resign and get out before we
hurt anybody else.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
All right, Conway's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
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Today's show will be posted shortly after four o'clock. A
few weeks ago, we talked about a murderer, and this
is particularly terrible. Herbert Brown's his name, Herbert David Brown,
the third. You know, murderers always have their full name
publicized so you don't get confused with other Herbert Brown's.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, he's serving a life sentence.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
He murdered his twenty two month old baby daughter, Lily Summer,
and somewhere along the way Herbert decided he was a
woman and wanted to be known as Ali Brown. And
the Parole Board has decided that a guy who kills
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his baby daughter ought to get parole. And that's what
happened on April twenty second. That's what the Parole Board says. Now,
the governor has thirty days to reverse the decision, which
means if he's going to reverse it, it has to
happen by Thursday. Thursday, May twenty second, So he's got
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two days left today and tomorrow to reverse the parole
Newsom does. Let's talk with the District Attorney in San
Louis Obispo County, Dan Dao, who told us about this
case a few weeks back.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Dan, welcome, How are you John?
Speaker 3 (01:31):
I'm well, but I'm I'm a little anxious because we
don't have much time left for the governor to act.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Do you how do I mean, how does this work?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Do you get to make a presentation to the governor
to oppose him approving of the parole or do you
just sitting and waiting for thirty days?
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, our proposal and presentation to him was a very
detailed letter. It was a five page letter plus a
lot of attachments that we could not release publicly, including
transcripts of the prole boards hearing statements from the inmate himself.
And we were able to show, I believe in our
letter to the governor that the parole board made their
(02:09):
decision without adequately fully looking at his history while he's
been in prison, without adequately considering the gravity of the
crime that he committed. And so the California Constitution gives
the governor thirty days after a granted parole has been given.
It's literally an Article five of the Constitution. If the
conviction and the sentence was for a murderer. There are
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other processes for people that aren't in for murder, but
in every murder, once that decision has been made, the
governor can reverse it within thirty days, And so I
would tell you that procedurally. Right now, I'm a little
more skeptical than I was even at the beginning, but
I know there's still hope. A lot of people around
the state have reached out to him, and I'm hoping
(02:52):
that your listeners today will call the governor's office. And
we've got his phone number. We're willing to give it
out the governor's office. The capital is nine one six
four four five two eight four one. That's nine one
six four four five two eight four to one, and
we're just asking for justice for baby Lily. I can't
imagine that a baby murder is being granted early parole. Frankly,
(03:15):
he should never be released, but they're giving him more.
They're giving him three years off of his sentence that
he was sentenced to fifteen years to life. That means
he should have served every day of fifteen years before
even being considered not he should not be allowed.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Dig murders his two year old daughter and to get
out in twelve years.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
And he cracked her skull. I mean, it's horrific. Let's
I hate to even talk about him.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I know, but I think you have to because most
of the public still doesn't know what this case is about.
Why don't you give us a rundown of how he
killed her?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
So Herbert David Brown the third lived in passer Robles
here in beautiful San Louis Bispo County, and he had
he was required to have visitation into the baby's mother
were not married at the time, they were not together,
but he was required to have some visitation as what
I'm remembering now from the mother dn summer. And he
(04:10):
was a drug addict. He was known to be a
meth user, and he, instead of taking care of his child,
put his own addiction ahead of the child. And while
he was into the influence, was very irritated by the
fact that this twenty two month old was sick, wasn't
eating well, and so rather than provide loving care, he
(04:34):
got angry and he inflicted abuse against her. Where we
don't have all the facts because we weren't there, but
we had to piece it together from what we did
learn and what we were able to discover in the investigation.
But the baby's skull was cracked. She had, you know,
symptoms prior to that that we later learned that she
had been sick and was not eating, and so Herbert
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Brown didn't know how to deal with it. He inflicted
horrific injuries all over her body, including a cracked skull.
She died in the hospital just shortly after the emergency
personnel we're able to finally arrive at the scene of his.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
Home, and then Herbert Brown becomes Ali Brown becomes a woman.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
That's right, and that all happened in prison, long after
he was convicted. Our office has never given any formal
notification of it, but all the paperwork that the Department
of Correction sends to us now on him refers to
the name Ali Brown. I've never seen anything with a
formal name change. And it's my understanding that in prison,
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if an inmate declares that they are the other gender,
that it's a fairly simple process for them to get
affirmed and get support and get all of the medical
treatment necessary. In fact, since twenty seventeen in California, it's
basically been law and regulation that we will pay for
gender reassignment for prisoners in state prison.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Right, But we don't know if he went through all
the way with the.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We don't and I really have no information of that.
But the fact that the parole board is referring to
him as a her, and they're referring to him as
you know, the baby as being his daughter or her daughter,
and that is a you know, a real I believe
it's an insult. My belief is that it's an insult
to the baby's true mother, Don Summer, who is absolutely
(06:23):
in agony over this. She's been in agony since the
crime happened, and she's appealing as well for justice for
baby Lily. And I'm hoping that people today will just
make the governor's phone ring off the hook. And what
people do when they call that numbers press one for
English and then press six to speak to a staff member.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
What is the parole board's argument for letting him out
after twelve years? I mean this, I don't think I've
heard of a case like this where you kill your
own little daughter and you're out after twelve years. I mean,
this is really breaking new ground. Maybe this is going
on every day now. I just don't know about it.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Well, I think it's going on a lot more than
what we would like to think. And Prop fifty seven
as actually what made it happen. It was supposed to
be only for non violent offenders getting early release, but Prop.
Fifty seven granted to the Department of Corrections the law
legal authority to write new regulations awarding early credits extra
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service time credits to anyone, including those in for violent
offenses and murder. It actually conflicts with and there's a
lawsuit right now that the DA's Association has had on
file for several years. It's in the Sacramento Areas at
the Court of Appeal. We won in the trial court,
but the effect of that has been stayed until the
(07:41):
decision gets released by the Court of Appeal. We're hoping
that the Court of Appeal will say it was unconstitutional
to change the law this way and to allow credits
for people serving time for murder. But nonetheless, many people
are being released early because of this extra credit that
(08:01):
they're getting that the Department of Corrections can award to them,
and that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
They go by, just how the math works.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
If you rack up enough of these fake credits, then okay,
we're letting you out. I mean, is there any look
into I mean, he's a psychopath, obviously, he's a violent psychopath.
And that doesn't get cured in prison. That never gets cured.
It's the same guy coming out that went in twelve
years ago.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Well, that's certainly our concern. And beyond that, you know,
I know from our review of the records that we
do not believe that he's been rehabilitated. We don't believe
that he's taken accountability for what he did, and we
don't believe he's addressed his addiction. And he doesn't have
a plan for when he gets out of prison and
what he's going to do. And first of all, you know,
(08:43):
of the one of the goals of our criminal and
victim justice system is accountability and punishment. And he hasn't
served enough of a punishment for the death of his
twenty two month innocent child. How old is See he
is early forties.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Early forties.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
He kills his daughter, and he's going to be out
in his early forties.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Does Newsom have to publicly decide one day or one
way or another.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Or can he just let it happen without putting his
name on it.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
He does not have to do. If he does nothing,
then the Parole Board's order goes into effect, you know,
without any other without anything else happening, which is why
it's so important that he get the pressure. You know,
we had a receipt and acknowledgment receipt of our package
that we sent on on April twenty fifth to the
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Governor's office. They acknowledge receipt. I have since inquired of
the governor's staff that works on these packets to ask
for an update. They have not replied, and I think
they're probably not allowed to reply. Once they receive something,
it's up to the governor and his staff to decide
what they're going to do. And I just confirmed you.
Herbert David Brown, who now goes by Ali Brown, was
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born in July of nineteen eighty three, so he's not
even yet forty two years old and has not served
a full well, he's just served twelve years in state
prison for the murder of his child.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
Governor Newsom's number nine one six four four five two
eight four one that's nine one, six, four, four, five
two eight four to one. You press one for English
and then what's the next number?
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You press six to speak to a staff member. Okay,
I should they should refer to him as Ali Hazel Brown.
That's the way the Governor's office is tracking the case.
And the inmate's serial number is a Y for Alpha
Yankee two two two seven, so they can refer to
inmate Ali Hazel Brown inmate number a Y two two
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two seven.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, I hope every single person listening will make the
phone call and support little baby Lily Summer twenty two
months old and killed brutally by her father known as
Herbert Brown at the time. Now Allie Hazel Brown, and
Newsom has two days to reverse this decision. He could
(11:08):
do nothing and then Ali Brown gets free. Anyway, That's
just this is so overwhelmingly unbelievable. Well, Dan, I hope
Newsom does the right thing.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I hope so as well. He has in a few
other cases where we've petitioned like this, I don't think
we've ever had it be on this close to the
end of the deadline. So it's our hope that he
that he does the right thing. And I appreciate you
getting the word out to your listeners.
Speaker 2 (11:35):
All right, Dan, we'll talk again soon. Thank you, thank you,
all right again.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
The numbers nine one, six, four, four, five two eight
four to one, and you call Governor Newsom's office press
one for English and then press six to talk to
a staff member. And the inmate's name is Allie Hazel
Brown and busted the skull of his twenty two month
old baby dollar daughter, Lily Summer. And he would only
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serve twelve years in prison because of the lunatic psychotics.
On the pearl Board war coming up.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
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Speaker 1 (12:18):
This story, I was really baffled by it. First, you
may have heard thirteen people have been arrested part of
an Armenian crime syndicate headquartered in the San Fernando Valley
in La County, and they were connected to the Russian mafia.
All right, so you have thirteen Armenians connected to the
(12:38):
Russian mafia. The syndicate is known as a Tourra tect
that's Russian for authority, and they've been in a violent
feud to maintain control of the San Fernando Valley for
the last three years. This was a federal investigation. The
main feud was between a guy from Porta Ranch named
(13:01):
Arra Artuni and his rival, Robert Emerian from Hollywood. And
what jumped out at me though, is our Tunis organization
stole eighty three million dollars from Amazon, according to the Feds.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
And when I heard about this, I thought, well, how the.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Hell do you steal eighty three million dollars worth of goods? Well,
what this crime syndicate did is they enrolled with Amazon
as uh carriers delivery guys. They got hired and they
contracted for trucking routes and their trucks would fill up
(13:40):
with the goods and then they would steal the goods.
They would just drive off and steal the shipment. I
guess they did this over and over again. Boy, Amazon's
investigative mechanism must be awfully slow, because they didn't catch
on until eighty three million dollars. Of how many drivers
you think they had on the take, I don't know. Well,
(14:02):
they only have thirteen who got arrested, but yeah, it
seems like should be a lot more than thirteen drivers.
And so they all got trucking round. I mean, Amazon
doesn't do much in the way of background checks, do
they no vetting? There?
Speaker 2 (14:20):
I guess as long as you have a driver's license.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
And all these trucks were driven off, and all this
stuff was never delivered, and it must all be in
the San Fernando Valley. There must be thousands and thousands
of people who've been banging on Amazon saying where's my stuff?
I never got it, which I assume is what led
the Feds to bust up this ring eighty three million dollars.
(14:44):
How does that go on for more than a few days,
when one truck worth of goods disappears, and then another
and another. Jee wouldn't somebody jeez Bezos is too busy
with Lauren Sanchez. You see, there's a photo of him
in one of the tablet spanking Laurn Sanchez. I saw that, yeah, yeah,
and so that's why the there a belt with a hand.
(15:07):
She was laid out, you know, half naked on a
on a beach chair, maybe on their on their So
he's busy and he's standing there smiling and smacking her.
But in meantime, these guys are running off with eighty
three million dollars of Amazon.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Good when you got billions.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
I guess you can do that.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
Yeah, yes, you know, when you you have that midlife crisis.
H Corvette.
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Don't have to go fumbling for the numbers. We'll do
two rounds of the Moistline on Friday. All right, There's
there's information coming out today about both major fires palisades
in Altadena, and there's actually a thread between the two
involving fire chiefs. And I'll get to Altadena in just
(16:14):
a minute. But they had a big story in the
Alley Times today how they still can't figure out why
evacuation warnings did not go out to people in West
Altadena and there were deaths in West Altadena because nobody
knew the fire was about to burn their homes and
burn them alive. And some people in West Altadena didn't
(16:36):
get any notification until five in the morning, which was
eleven hours after the fire started, and nobody wants to
take responsibility, and the Ally Times suggests it's human error.
We'll get to that in a minute. The San Francisco
Chronicle got video. You see, San Diego has wildlife cameras
(16:59):
up in the Anamonic Mountains all through the mountains, in
the in the in those well the areas where the
wildlife lives. That's primarily what they're used for. They're also
very helpful when fires break out. In fact, u see
San Diego camera captured video which was released a few
weeks ago showing that secondary fires blew up twelve hours
(17:22):
after the first fire because the idiots Genis Quinonez, she
didn't turn the electricity off to the power lines twelve
hours into the fire, so eventually power poles collapsed, wires
came down on vegetation which were bone dry, and here
we go, you got more waves of fire started engulfing
(17:43):
the palisades. So that that was captured by the cameras.
And you know, when they when they get to a
trial or they get to the settlement, that video is
going to be very powerful because just about everybody in
the government was asleep and then and then you have
the fire chief at the time, Crowley, and this is unforgivable.
And I'll just give you a quick rundown, and then
(18:04):
we're going to play you this story from Channel seven.
San Francisco Chronicle got the videos from UC San Diego,
and it looks as if the fire, the big fire
on January seventh, started in the same place as in
New Year's Day morning fire. They have video of the
New Year's Morning fire. Supposedly young people started it with fireworks.
(18:27):
It was in almost exactly the same place. It looks
to a lot of fire investigators who stared at the
video that these were old embers from the January first
fire that rekindled on January seventh, Which makes you wonder
why the LA Fire Department didn't have a crew standing over.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
That hot spot.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Because the fire was put out in the first the
warnings for extreme fire danger and high winds came out
the next day on the second, So why wasn't a
crew keeping that area watered down treated in some way.
Let's play this story from Channel SEVENKBC.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
We're about to show you videos first obtained by the
San Francisco Chronicles. Some fire investigators believe it's clear video
evidence that a New Year's fire likely rekindled into the
most destructive fires in California history.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I think calling it a rekindle is a valid thing.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Retired fire investigator Terry Taylor has studied these two videos
obtained by the San Francisco Chronicle side by side. This
nighttime video is from right around midnight New Year's Day.
You see a flash on the ground and that a
fire up's near the top of a hill. This small
brush fire, dubbed the Lockman fire, sparked after neighbors say
they heard fireworks. We were in the neighborhood in the
(19:54):
morning of New Year's and we heard some fireworks going
off around us.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
And here's what that say.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
You see San Diego camera captured around ten thirty am
on Tuesday, January seventh, These first flames exploded into the
Palisades fire. Let's show you them side by side again.
Some experts like Taylor, thing these videos support the theory
that the Palisades Fire started from a still smothering hot
(20:20):
pocket left behind from that New Year's Day fire.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's certainly a good supposition.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
The theory is nothing new. Just days after the La fires,
sitting on your Side. Investigates showed you these side by
side satellite images showing the burn scar from January first
and the beginning of what would be the behemoth Palisades
Fire six days later. Just listen to what this Palisades
homeowner told us.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
It's there a connection. One percent. There's a connection.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Standing in the exact same X mark, looking in the
same direction, you'll see the same cloud of smoke in
the exact same spot. Both fires remain under investigation, so
the question of did L. E.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
F D miss a hotspot remains.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
Acting Fire Chief Rodney Villa Nueva told us today he
doesn't want a Monday morning quarterback because he wasn't chief
when either fire sparred. Hey, Chief, can we ask you
a few questions about this new reporting potentially linking the
lockman of Palisades fire.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Would you say I was?
Speaker 5 (21:23):
I wasn't. And this afternoon I spoke to the acting
chief again over the phone. He says he has never
received a briefing that ever connects these two fires. Now,
the ATF is also investigating, and the agency told us
today no final conclusions have been made.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Rodney Fielanueva has never gotten a brief in connecting the
two fires. That that that theory has been banned around
and is being investigated by a lot of different agencies
right now. He really doesn't know anything about it, and
only he's got to say that he wasn't he wasn't
the fire chief. Then, seriously, what the hell, where's Christian Crowley?
(22:05):
Where's Karen Bass? If you have a major fire? Oh
my god, on my So there's a big fire on
the first that morning, on the second, National Weather Service
sends out the fire warnings and the high wind warnings,
and there should have been fire crew watching that location,
(22:29):
because over the next five days the warnings got more frightening,
more intense. Meantime, Karen Bass jumps on her plane to
Africa in spite of the warnings, In spite of this,
this fire area obviously still hot and then maybe it
explodes into flame on the seventh. What there was nobody around?
(22:57):
Everybody in the fire industry knows a hot spot could
flare up within a week.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
This was six days. How could nobody be there?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Why didn't Kristen Crowley assign a crew permanently to that
area and as soon as it would start to because
that would be the number one area most likely to
flare up.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
And they knew. You've ever seen the.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Weather maps on the news, they can tell you the
day before, two days before, three days before, where you're
going to get dangerous winds, almost exactly how strong the
winds are going to be, almost exactly what time the
winds are going to be. And you see those the
windflow right those lines with the arrows that are drawn
(23:46):
across the maps. And as it was coming into the Palisades,
they were telling everybody for days that, yeah, this is
going to be sixty miles an hour, eighty miles an hour,
it would be passing right over the fire. Does anybody
in the fire depart and watched, Oh, I don't know.
ABC seven by the way, that was Kevin Osbecker did
the report from Channel seven. And then and then this, uh,
(24:08):
this ridey Vianueva's I haven't heard anything about that.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Maybe you haven't heard anything about it.
Speaker 1 (24:14):
It hasn't come up. You've been the assistant fire chief
for months and it hasn't come up. They really think
this is going.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
To go away.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
How do you trust all these investigations now, which leads
me to Alta Dina and I'm going to get to
that next because you kind of have the same situation there.
These these evacuation warnings never went out, and nobody wants
to talk about it.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
All these brave fire chiefs, like the.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
County fire chief in La Anthony Moron, suddenly his his
tongue gets tied. He can't speak either. Well, these brave
guys can't just like stand up and tell the truth.
You know stuff, of course, you know stuff. You've been
doing this decades. You know what's going on. They don't
seem to know why evacuation orders didn't go out to
(25:05):
a neighborhood where people died. It's like five in the morning,
it's eleven hours into the fire. There's no evacuation warnings.
Like in the Palisades, twelve hours into the fire, Jenny's
Canonias did not turn off the electricity and so that
started more fires. What's wrong with these people? Why are
they here? Why are they earning hundreds and thousands of
(25:26):
our dollars? Total failure protecting us, total failure, responding, total failure,
just doing the basics that an eight year old would
figure out. All right, we'll talk about the Altadena thing
when we come back.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
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Speaker 1 (25:43):
Six forty after four o'clock, we'll post our podcast that
we had a lot of good stuff today. We had
Daniel gusson to talk about corruption at the La Zoo
of all places, and where those two poor elephants ended
up sentenced to go to Tulsa, Oklahoma. Carl Demio was
on to talk talk about how he got the Newsom
administration to admit that they're being investigated by the federal
(26:05):
government for maybe misappropriating federal tax money for illegal alien healthcare.
And we also had a district attorney from San Luis
Obispo County, Daniel Dowon, pleading with all of you to
please contact Governor Newsom immediately because Newsom is about to
let out a prisoner who killed his two year old
(26:27):
daughter and he's only served twelve months. So it's all
on the podcast, All right on the iHeartRadio John Cobolt
Show on demand.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
All right on the Altadena fire. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
The western Altadena there was no evacuation orders until three
thirty in the morning. The fire started about six at
night three point thirty a m. The next day, nine
hours several hours after smoking flames threatened West Altadena. Some
neighborhoods in Southwest Altadena weren't ordered to evacuate until Amost
(27:02):
six a m. Twelve hours later. People in East Altadna
got their evacuation alerts the night before at six forty pm.
So it's twelve hours and nobody can explain what went wrong.
For three hours from midnight to three am, as the
Eton fire started to run west, no electronic evacuation alerts
(27:27):
went out. Nobody, according to the La Times, has explained
what went wrong. They believe it's human error. They asked
the sheriff, Robert Luna, and he said the evacuation was
a collaborative effort, and he has said in the past that, well,
we're included in the decision making, but they're the lead.
(27:49):
It says it's the county firefighters. They're the ones supposed
to decide where the evacuation messages go, even though it's
a unified command. I depend on the experts. I depend
on the experts. Nobody should depend on experts. Haven't they
been completely discredited yet? Is there's still people prattling on
about experts. Really, there's an Office of Emergency Management that
(28:15):
was supposed to send out these alerts, and that team
says they sent an evacuation order to West out Diadena
soon after it was ordered to do so. So they're
blaming the county fire Department or the sheriff's officials, but
nobody wants to talk. The county fire chief said he
(28:36):
doesn't know what went wrong. This is such a complex issue.
I think collectively, we all have to do better. Everybody
is saying that they don't remember a moment when they
realized they've made a mistake and messed up the evacuation
alerts for West Oultadena.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Oh well, just a bunch of people died.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
There's nobody keeping track of evacuation alert I know it's
chaotic out there, and the winds are blowing eighty one
hundred miles an hour, and the winds had switched direction,
But I don't know. It seems like there should be
some master control where they're very meticulous about who's evacuated,
winds are blowing, who's in danger next? How do you
(29:15):
go twelve hours twelve and everybody knows it was a
screw up. Nobody is saying, oh, there's nothing we can't
know about. No, it's a massive screw up, but nobody
wants stick responsibility. They just go, I don't know. It's
like Rodney Vanueva, the La City interim fire chief. They're
asking him, Hey, how about these this this New Year's
Day fire? Or is this connected to the big fire eye?
(29:38):
You know, I wasn't I wasn't here. Then nobody has
the decency to say.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
My fault.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
I screwed up, my department screwed up. Here are the
names of the people who work for me who screwed
up and why we screwed up, and we're sorry, and
we're all going to resign and get out before we
hurt anybody else.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
All right, Conway's coming up next.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
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