September 11, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (09/11) - Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the latest regarding the investigation into who committed the assassination of conservative media personality & activist Charlie Kirk. Pro-transgenderism and anti-fascist remarks were found on ammunition near where authorities think the shooter who killed Charlie Kirk was. Charlie Kirk's pastor Rob McCoy comes on the show to talk about his relationship with Charlie Kirk.
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We are waiting, and I guess we've been waiting for
about an hour and twenty minutes because originally they were
gonna have a press conference at eleven forty five Pacific
time in Utah about Charlie Kirk's assassin because there is
now photographs of the assassin walking through areas of the
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university Utah Valley University, presumably before he was shooting at Kirk.
They have found an abandoned gun in the forest and
other evidence, and we're going to talk to Alex Stone
now to see what he knows and what's coming soon.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hey, they're John.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, we thought we were going to get that update
from the FBI and the Utah Department of Public Safety,
but they say that there are rapid developments in the case.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They have reiterated that nobody is in custody.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It appears that Cash Pattel, the FBI director, is making
his way to the university to be at the next briefing,
so could be a delay waiting for him to get there.
But investigators have very clear surveillance images now of a
man who they believe was the shooter, a younger man,
longsleeved dark shirt with an American flag of some kind
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of logo on there, wearing a hat and sunglasses as well,
and that they are hoping and they believe that somebody
in the public will be able to say I know
that guy and let them know who it is. They're
trying a number of different ways to DNA and fingerprints
and a palm print and a forearm print to figure
out who it is. But we are told at this
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moment they don't know, at least publicly. They are not
releasing that they know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Today.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
BA Mason, the head of the Utah Department of Public Safety,
saying this, we do have.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Good video footage of this individual. We are not going
to release that at this time. We were working through
some technologies and some ways to identify this individual and.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So they were able to track him on video. They
saw him arrive at the university, arrived on campus at
eleven fifty two am yesterday, climbed up some stairs, went
onto the roof of a building that was not all
that close. It was not the buildings right around where
Charlie Kirk was speaking.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That this was quite a distance.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It would indicate that this person knew what they were
doing with that bold action rifle and with the one
shot being able to make it fatal. But then there
was the single deadly shot at twelve twenty pm. He
jumped down off of the building, ran into some woods.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And after the shooting we were able to track his
movements as he moved to the other side of the building,
jumped off of the building and fled off of the
campus and into a neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And John the gun that was found, as you mentioned,
in the woods, but it was covered in a towel.
We now know from a number of sources there was
a spent cartridge still in the chamber and unspent cartridges
that we are told this afternoon had wording on them
that some law enforcement has been telling us that it
appeared to have the transgender and anti fascist writing on
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those spent cartridges or unspent cartridges, and that they're trying
to kind of understand the words and what they mean.
But the gun is now with the FBI. They're doing
DNA analysis on it. They have a shoe imprint that
they're working off of as well, and then the palm
print and the forearm prints that they're trying to link
to whoever the shooter was.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Suspect blended in well with a college institution, and we're
not releasing many details right now, and then we will soon,
but right now we're not, but that that individual appears
to be of college age.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So they're using the technology that he mentioned on the
video to idea the killer whatever technology that is of
facial recognition or other things. But they say tips have
been coming in. They've got a one hundred thousand dollars
reward up. They announced that about an hour or two
ago for the arrest of the shooter, and by later
on tonight maybe we'll find out that they know who
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it is has of right now though they're indicating that
they don't know and that nobody's under arrest. Wonder why
cashptel is flying in it seems like he would fly
in if they were going to announce who it is
or announce that they have the guy. Maybe we understand
the moment that he's kind of coming in to show
the seriousness of how much it's being taken for the
director to be there and say, look, we're giving all resources.
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But that may change as the day goes on if
in fact they do. Now remember he announced yesterday that
they had detained two different people of interest, He called
them subjects, and then had to announce a short time
later that both had been released and were not related
to this, and.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That was all very confusing.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yesterday actually put out names, and now we understand from
law enforcement those two people are being harassed by people
claiming that they had something to do with it, and well,
what were they doing because one of them was an
older guy. Yeah, he was then being held for obstruction
of justice after they determined that he was not involved
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in this. So something got the eye of law enforcement.
And the father of the second guy detained was saying today,
just quoting from him, it's ridiculous, it's absolutely uncalled for,
an insane He said his son was there as a
supporter of Charlie Kirk and then somehow got wound up
where they pointed at him and arrested him, and then
it was announced and his name was put out by
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law enforcement, and cash Betel said that they had a
suspect in custody. So you know, that's one of those
things where then maybe wait a little bit longer before
I say we got somebody. That's what's tough about covering
these stories in real time as soon as they happened.
Because by about a quarter to four yesterday, there were
three different stories out there, one from cash Betel, one
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from the governor, and one from law enforcement officials who
had a press conference, and they were all somewhat different
over how many suspects and whether they were being held
as suspects of the shooting or some other charges, or
whether they were released or not.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It was really hard to find.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
It leads you to why law enforcement sometimes we'll say
we're not telling you that right now, where they get
all their ducks in the line and figure it out.
Where yesterday we were kind of seeing it a little
bit raw. This is a different way to run it.
And it was announced as the leadership that was gonna
speak at the news conference was walking into the and
they didn't know what he had said on social media
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announcing the arrest, and they didn't even seem to know
about it, but seemed like maybe they didn't believe at
that moment that that was somebody who was actually going
to be a suspect, because they kind of hemmed and
hot around it and said nobody was in custody, and
then the governor said, well, there's a person of interest,
but we don't know, and then shortly thereafter Patel had
to announce that they had released him. So some of
something they want to get in line, and they were
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using a different term suspect, person of interest, somebody in custody,
subject subject. Yeah, So yeah, all of that's been confusing,
and it shows kind of the new FBI right now
that this is much more raw information coming out and
not quite as as you know, where they wait to
figure everything out and then let everybody know. So we'll
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see if they have something to announce tonight. We don't
know if they're even going to hold the news conference.
The one that was planned has been indefinitely postponed. We
expect in the next couple of hours and they will
hold something and at least give an update of some kind,
but we don't know yet. Oh so the one that
was supposed to run originally eleven forty five, it's at
this point. Yeah, definitely postponed. Okay, yeah, all right, not
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to say in ten minutes they may not say now
we're gonna do it. We don't know what they're gonna do, right,
all right, Alex, but you'll be there. Yeah, it happens, Okay,
Alex stones Down. ABC News Coming up after Deverra's one
thirty News, We're going to talk to Rob McCoy, who
is the spiritual.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I guess the inspiration for.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Charlie Kirk because for a long time Charlie Kirk, as
he built his organization Turning Point USA, it was more
of a secular organization, trying to get college students and
others interested in political issues and debating political issues. And
then a few years ago Kirk met with Rob McCoy,
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who has a church locally here and in newbury Park,
and he got Charlie to mix religion with politics. McCoy's
church is God Speak Calvary Chapel in newbury Park, and
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McCoy is with Kirk's family in Arizona. As I understand it,
So we are going to and they also founded an
as sister organization, Turning Point USA Faith. So Pastor Rob
McCoy very close with Charlie Kirk and the kirk Or family,
and we are going to talk to him in about
fifteen minutes. And one of the things I want to
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follow up on that Alex Stone mentioned was this ammunition.
They found some unspent cartridges in the woods along with
the rifle. It was inside the rifle and carr engraved
on it. On the bullets were expressions of transgender and
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anti fascist ideology.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, we'll talk about this because it was I had
a weird little instinct yesterday and I actually set it
on the air, and we're going to play you back
a clip from yesterday's show and play you the exact
moment right up to the right up to the second
where the bullet strikes. Because Kirk and one of the
attendees were involved in a specific conversation that is related
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to what was engraved on the bullet and engraved to
what we were talking about here yesterday. We'll tell you
all about it next.
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o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand. In about fifteen minutes,
we're going to have Pastor Rob McCoy on from Godspeak,
Cavalry Chapel in Newbury Park. Pastor McCoy was Charlie Kirk's
spiritual advisor. They met some years ago and Pastor McCoy
ended up convincing Charlie Kirk to start incorporating some of
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his religious beliefs into his presentations as he toured colleges
around the country and it went over really well. We're
going to talk to Pastor McCoy because he has been
with the family ever since the shooting. I believe they're
in Arizona now. He's coming on after Deborah's News about
one thirty five or so, so you want to listen
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to that, all right, So yesterday when the shooting happened,
there was a specific moment where it happened, and I'm
it has got three short parts to it, and play
the first part this is I'm gonna play cut five first.
This is what Charlie Kirk and one of the attendees
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we're discussing you know, the attendees are allowed to come
up to a microphone in front of Kirk who's sitting
on stage, and they can ask him anything or bring
up any issue and Kirk will respond. And so there's
nothing out of the ordinary. And you're going to hear
the shot at the end. No, we're not going to
hear the shot. Okay, you're just going to hear the exchange.
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And we just don't want to play the shot or
any any of the other screaming and trauma because the
words here are important. What were they talking about when
the shot rang out?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass
shooters over the last eighty years?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Too many time? Okay, now mine is a long right,
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Give you his credit. Do you know how many maschers
there have been in America over the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Accounting or not counting gang violence?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Great, and then the shot rang out and that was
unfortunately it for Charlie Kirk. But it was a transgender question.
How many transgender shooters? And you could see the point
that Sky was trying to make. I assume he was
going to get to that it's a tiny percentage of
all the shootings that go on. So yesterday, after I
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heard the clip, I wondered about something, and we actually
posted this little piece on Instagram. It was, you know,
our daily promo for the podcast, and I saw some
people said, geez, you sound like Alex Jones.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well this is me yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't know if it was a coincidence that Kirk
was killed while he was having the exchange on transgenderism
with the audience member, or if.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's what caused the shooter to pull the trigger.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
There's no way to know that, no doubt this was
a politically motivated killing, a hatred of what Kirk represents,
a message to Trump because Kirk was so high up
in the Trump hierarchy as an outside advisor and so
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responsible for getting young people to come out and vote
for Trump. And you know, Trump already was targeted twice
just last year. There's a lot of insanity going on.
It was just a flicker of a thought I had
in my head because it was such a well timed
shot right at the end of Kirk's statement regarding the
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transgender killers. And then part three, this popped up in
the Wall Street Journal. You heard Alex Stone allude to it.
Don't have much more than what they reported. Investigators found
ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and anti fascist ideology
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inside the rifle that they believe was used in the
shooting of Charlie Kirk. This is according to an internal
law enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So you had these.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Unspent cartridges inside the rifle, and if you look at
the engraving, at least one of the cartridges, the message
was about transgenderism. Because what I wondered yesterday was if
this was a transgender activist and he knew Kirk would
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always talk about it at each one of his appearances.
Was he waiting for the moment that it came up
and then the shooter was going to give his response
to Kirk's opinions? Or I wondered, was the questioner part
of it? That was the cue be ready? Because that
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exchange took about what did it take? Twenty two seconds?
So the questioner brings it up, and now the shooter knows, okay,
I got maybe fifteen twenty seconds to pull this off.
There was something about the timing of it that just bugby,
and I understand some people thought I'd gone off on
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off the conspiracy cliff. But what can I tell you?
Thoughts occurred to me and sometimes I share them here,
and I still I think even more now there's something
to it, engraved with transgender and anti fascist ideology. And
then I flashed back to Luigi MANNGIONI remember he his
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bullets were engraved with a message for that healthcare executive
that he murdered on the streets of New York City.
It was a play on the title of a book
about how unfair insurance companies treat their customers. And I
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think it was like denied delay and a third word
that starts with D and that's what was written on
the bullet or the cartridge. And now, so is this
some wacky new trend. Well, we may find out later
today when we come back. We're going to talk to
Charlie Kirk's spiritual advisor from Ventura County, the Godspeak Calvary
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Chapel in Newbury Park. He convinced Charlie Kirk to start
in infusing his political appearances with some religion and it
became quite a powerful combination. And McCoy is with the
Kirk family in Arizona. Right now, we'll talk to Pastor
Rob McCoy coming up next.
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and we have a special guest to come on now.
Pastor Rob McCoy was Charlie Kirk's spiritual advisor and he
is at the God Speak Cavalry Chapel in Newbury Park.
That's where he has his church. At the moment, he's
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in Arizona with Charlie Kirk's family, the wife and the
children and everyone else. It's a very difficult time and
we really appreciate Pastor Rob McCoy coming on with us. Pastor, welcome,
How are you, thanks, John.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, all things considered doing pretty good?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, Well, I mean talk about your relationship with Charlie
Kirk and what.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He was like.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I know his faith was obviously paramount in his life,
sent to everything that he believed in, everything he talked about.
Why'd you describe your relationship with him?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Sure, gentlemen, and you're hitting the nail on the head
that his faith was central to all he was about.
I met Charlie back in what April twenty nineteen. We
were at a conference and I was coming off from
speaking and he looked at me. And the only reason
why I knew him is because my son was a
big fan and I wasn't a social media follower. And
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he said, I didn't know a guy like you existed.
And I said, what's that? And he said a pastor
in politics. Because at the time I was pastoring, but
I was also on the city council on Thousand Oaks.
And I said I didn't know a guy like you existed.
And he said what's that? And I said a young
conservative And we both laughed and became friends. And I said,
you know, why don't you come and speak at our church?
He says, I don't speak in churches. I said, why
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is that, Charlie. He said, because churches don't want me.
I'm too political. And I said, Charlie, politics is the highest.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Form of community.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It combines morale, associability. If God didn't want us to
be in politics, he would have never invented marriage. You
need to be in a church. And so i've since then,
I've seen him speak in person, probably over five hundred times.
I'd never seen him nervous until that morning, that Sunday morning,
he was scared to death and it was one of
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the best sermons I've ever heard. And since then he's
probably spoken to in over a thousand churches across the country,
and together we started what's called Turning Point Faith and
that has over four thousand partner churches. And the idea is,
you know that the misunderstanding that you know here we're
coming up to our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary or
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birthday of a nation. And it wasn't until maybe fifty
years ago that they took the first sixteen words of
the First Amendment and they flipped it and they didn't
say freedom of religion. They made freedom from religion. And
then secular progressivism comes in and we got the mess
we're in today. Charlie, Charlie was a phenom. He took
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this on at seventeen, created the largest conservative youth movement
in the world, let alone America. I was four days ago.
I was with him in Korea. In that country under
this new president, Lee is is raiding churches and Charlie
stood with him and one pastor was arrested and he
was getting ready on today's show to defend him prior
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to being murdered. And here we all are in mourning,
but we're not in despair. Charlie. Charlie inspired the entire
generation young people, and that coward who murdered him, he
just hit the hornet's nest. These young kids are they're
going to arise. They just created a mob. But it's
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a mob of Western civilization, preserving and advancing. And I
miss him, but I know where he is. I have
no despair, it's we have hope.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So and you're with the family now.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, So my wife and I heard the news. We
jumped on a plane headed to Salt Lake. We were
with the family last night. And then as we were departing,
they're coming back with the Vice President getting ready to land.
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Shortly we had landed ahead of them, and I'm taking
a call with you. Guys.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
He credited you with combining is Christianity with his political beliefs,
as you were talking about a couple of minutes ago.
That's when he started creating like a combination message, because
Turning Point was primarily a secular message until you two
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got together, and then he started creating a mixture of
the two religion and politics.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Andie Charlie was a phenom. He was an autodidac self taught.
He didn't go to college, but he could run circles
around professors and debate. He was a voracious reader. I
just reminded him of America's history. You know, it used
to be the pulpits in America. You go there for
your basically voter guide, and you know the first sixteen
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words of the First Amendment, Congress shall make no law
respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise
there of. No government's going to get in the way
of man worshiping God. And if you think you're supposed
to check your convictions at the door as a citizen
before you can participate in any type of election, that's
not what the founders intended. They believed in a separation
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of church and state. They wanted the state out of
the church, But you can't remove the church out of
the state. Meaning I am who I am, and I
worship who I worship, and those convictions are going to
dict how I operate as a citizen. And Charlie saw
that connection, and through Hillsdale College and a number of
other things, it reignited because he had been raised in
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a generation of churches that you know, pastors say, look,
I don't don't. I don't do politics. Politics is dirty.
I just preach the gospel. And I told Charlie, I go,
that's gnosticism. You somehow, you know, it's moral pietism, that
you're too pure to participate in the blood sport of politics,
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even though we're to contend for you know, our neighbor.
And for one of these young ones to stumble, would
be better for you to have a millstone tied around
your neck and cast and devasotion's he's contending for youth
across the country with pulpits. Wouldn't they just say, I
preached the gospel and they say politics is dirty, and
I go, Charlie. My response to pastors like that is,
so's the church. What's your point? And if they say, look,
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we're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
Only if Jesus is running for office, will you ever
not be voting for the lesser of two evils? We're
supposed to contend for that. And within two days he
had devoured every early sermon from you know, the Eastern
seaboard during the War of Independence, including Jonathan Mayhew, and
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he had read them all, and he just was running
circles around me historically, and I was blown away, and
it just it transformed him. So from there on out,
even with all of his campus events, he would boldly
share about the Lord because he saw that they were interconnected.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And was he ever afraid?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I mean, he got any of death threats over the years,
a lot of harsh criticism, especially with the way the
internet and social media is, it's quite vile. Did that
bother him, restrain him at all? Scare him at all?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I was asked for a comment on that, and I
don't recall my exact words, but I did say that
Charlie built the largest conservative youth movement in the world
with nothing more than the power of the spoken word,
with truth and logic, and he was threatened every day,
and he never used violence. He never asked for violence.
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He used words. But he was threatened every day by
those who couldn't contend with logic and reason. They threatened
to kill him every day, and he got up every
day not afraid of death because he trusted in his
Savior and he knew that his heart was secure in
the Lord, and he didn't fear death, And so he
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get up every day and contend for truth and a
cowardice murderer. And that's what evil does. Evil takes life.
Charlie defended life, and evil mutilates children. Charlie contended for
the he's you know in jumaine hormone blockers that you
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won't even give the serial rapists in prison, but you
can give him to our fifteen year olds in California,
and they call that healthcare, and they mutilate them. And
he would hear the stories of Chloe Cole at fifteen
with a double mast ectomy, and he'd look and he'd say,
where are the adults in the room. And for that,
these cowards who couldn't contend or even give the answer
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to those questions, who are making major money on the
mutilation of our kids, decided to put a bullet in him. Well,
that's what evil does. Evil takes life. Charlie's not dead.
It's like what Billy Graham said, one day you're going
to hear the story of my death or the reporting
of my death. Don't believe it. I'll be more alive
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than ever. Charlie's living. He just began to truly live
that day that shooter didn't kill him.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Rob McCoy, Charlie Kirk's pastor. He's with the family right
now in Arizona. Thank you for coming on and sharing
all that.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Thanks am, I appreciate it. John bless you.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
All right, Thank you very much. We'll continue.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
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Speaker 3 (27:09):
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have had a lot of things to say about the
Charlie Kirk shooting and everything else.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So that's what is today, Thursday. Today is Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
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Speaker 2 (27:33):
Everything's a blur.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Coming up after two o'clock, we are going to get
into a few other issues because even though there's been
this overwhelming story of Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, our oppressive
government is still screwing you over and we can't take
our eye off that. And we are going to spend
some time with Angela McGregor after debors two o'clock news.
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She writes for the West Side Current, and you remember
that idiot counselman I had, Mike Bonnett, who just turned
the West Side over to hundreds and hundreds of crazed
homeless people. Somewhere along the way, they started spending money,
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or said they were going to spend money on a
housing project on Washington Boulevard. They were going to convert
a former ramata in about a mile from the Venice
Pier into permanent homeless housing. Well, it's been several years
now and nothing's happened. No construction, the construction should have
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been completed, nothing's been done. They were given a zero
interest loan to one of these nonprofits called.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Path and.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Nothing and in fact, almost twenty million dollars in grants, loans,
and donations have gone to the project nothing. We'll talk
to Angela McGregor. I am telling you I don't know
who's got the authority to do this, but somebody ought
to declare an emergency and immediately frees all payments to
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all homeless nonprofits in La County upon an extremely thorough
investigation by a team of outside auditors, and maybe the
FBI ought to be involved.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I know Bill A.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Saley was talking about doing a federal investigation he is
the US Attorney. This is ridiculous. We'll talk about that
coming up. Also, we're gonna talk in the three o'clock hour.
I told you the other day that Gavin Newsom in
a state of panic because gas prices really might soar
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over eight dollars a gallon not too far down the road,
because two oil refineries in the state are closing, will
be down to six. Newsom was trying to get an
outside buyer to buy the Valero refinery in Benetia. He
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We are waiting, and I guess we've been waiting for
about an hour and twenty minutes because originally they were
gonna have a press conference at eleven forty five Pacific
time in Utah about Charlie Kirk's assassin because there is
now photographs of the assassin walking through areas of the
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university Utah Valley University, presumably before he was shooting at Kirk.
They have found an abandoned gun in the forest and
other evidence, and we're going to talk to Alex Stone
now to see what he knows and what's coming soon.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Hey, they're John.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Yeah, we thought we were going to get that update
from the FBI and the Utah Department of Public Safety,
but they say that there are rapid developments in the case.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
They have reiterated that nobody is in custody.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
It appears that Cash Pattel, the FBI director, is making
his way to the university to be at the next briefing,
so could be a delay waiting for him to get there.
But investigators have very clear surveillance images now of a
man who they believe was the shooter, a younger man,
longsleeved dark shirt with an American flag of some kind
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of logo on there, wearing a hat and sunglasses as well,
and that they are hoping and they believe that somebody
in the public will be able to say I know
that guy and let them know who it is. They're
trying a number of different ways to DNA and fingerprints
and a palm print and a forearm print to figure
out who it is. But we are told at this
(02:00):
moment they don't know, at least publicly. They are not
releasing that they know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Today.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
BA Mason, the head of the Utah Department of Public Safety,
saying this, we do have.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
Good video footage of this individual. We are not going
to release that at this time. We were working through
some technologies and some ways to identify this individual and.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
So they were able to track him on video. They
saw him arrive at the university, arrived on campus at
eleven fifty two am yesterday, climbed up some stairs, went
onto the roof of a building that was not all
that close. It was not the buildings right around where
Charlie Kirk was speaking.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
That this was quite a distance.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
It would indicate that this person knew what they were
doing with that bold action rifle and with the one
shot being able to make it fatal. But then there
was the single deadly shot at twelve twenty pm. He
jumped down off of the building, ran into some woods.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
And after the shooting we were able to track his
movements as he moved to the other side of the building,
jumped off of the building and fled off of the
campus and into a neighborhood.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And John the gun that was found, as you mentioned,
in the woods, but it was covered in a towel.
We now know from a number of sources there was
a spent cartridge still in the chamber and unspent cartridges
that we are told this afternoon had wording on them
that some law enforcement has been telling us that it
appeared to have the transgender and anti fascist writing on
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those spent cartridges or unspent cartridges, and that they're trying
to kind of understand the words and what they mean.
But the gun is now with the FBI. They're doing
DNA analysis on it. They have a shoe imprint that
they're working off of as well, and then the palm
print and the forearm prints that they're trying to link
to whoever the shooter was.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Suspect blended in well with a college institution, and we're
not releasing many details right now, and then we will soon,
but right now we're not, but that that individual appears
to be of college age.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
So they're using the technology that he mentioned on the
video to idea the killer whatever technology that is of
facial recognition or other things. But they say tips have
been coming in. They've got a one hundred thousand dollars
reward up. They announced that about an hour or two
ago for the arrest of the shooter, and by later
on tonight maybe we'll find out that they know who
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it is has of right now though they're indicating that
they don't know and that nobody's under arrest. Wonder why
cashptel is flying in it seems like he would fly
in if they were going to announce who it is
or announce that they have the guy. Maybe we understand
the moment that he's kind of coming in to show
the seriousness of how much it's being taken for the
director to be there and say, look, we're giving all resources.
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But that may change as the day goes on if
in fact they do. Now remember he announced yesterday that
they had detained two different people of interest, He called
them subjects, and then had to announce a short time
later that both had been released and were not related
to this, and.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
That was all very confusing.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yesterday actually put out names, and now we understand from
law enforcement those two people are being harassed by people
claiming that they had something to do with it, and well,
what were they doing because one of them was an
older guy. Yeah, he was then being held for obstruction
of justice after they determined that he was not involved
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in this. So something got the eye of law enforcement.
And the father of the second guy detained was saying today,
just quoting from him, it's ridiculous, it's absolutely uncalled for,
an insane He said his son was there as a
supporter of Charlie Kirk and then somehow got wound up
where they pointed at him and arrested him, and then
it was announced and his name was put out by
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law enforcement, and cash Betel said that they had a
suspect in custody. So you know, that's one of those
things where then maybe wait a little bit longer before
I say we got somebody. That's what's tough about covering
these stories in real time as soon as they happened.
Because by about a quarter to four yesterday, there were
three different stories out there, one from cash Betel, one
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from the governor, and one from law enforcement officials who
had a press conference, and they were all somewhat different
over how many suspects and whether they were being held
as suspects of the shooting or some other charges, or
whether they were released or not.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
It was really hard to find.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
It leads you to why law enforcement sometimes we'll say
we're not telling you that right now, where they get
all their ducks in the line and figure it out.
Where yesterday we were kind of seeing it a little
bit raw. This is a different way to run it.
And it was announced as the leadership that was gonna
speak at the news conference was walking into the and
they didn't know what he had said on social media
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announcing the arrest, and they didn't even seem to know
about it, but seemed like maybe they didn't believe at
that moment that that was somebody who was actually going
to be a suspect, because they kind of hemmed and
hot around it and said nobody was in custody, and
then the governor said, well, there's a person of interest,
but we don't know, and then shortly thereafter Patel had
to announce that they had released him. So some of
something they want to get in line, and they were
(06:56):
using a different term suspect, person of interest, somebody in custody,
subject subject. Yeah, So yeah, all of that's been confusing,
and it shows kind of the new FBI right now
that this is much more raw information coming out and
not quite as as you know, where they wait to
figure everything out and then let everybody know. So we'll
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see if they have something to announce tonight. We don't
know if they're even going to hold the news conference.
The one that was planned has been indefinitely postponed. We
expect in the next couple of hours and they will
hold something and at least give an update of some kind,
but we don't know yet. Oh so the one that
was supposed to run originally eleven forty five, it's at
this point. Yeah, definitely postponed. Okay, yeah, all right, not
(07:40):
to say in ten minutes they may not say now
we're gonna do it. We don't know what they're gonna do, right,
all right, Alex, but you'll be there. Yeah, it happens, Okay,
Alex stones Down. ABC News Coming up after Deverra's one
thirty News, We're going to talk to Rob McCoy, who
is the spiritual.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
I guess the inspiration for.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Charlie Kirk because for a long time Charlie Kirk, as
he built his organization Turning Point USA, it was more
of a secular organization, trying to get college students and
others interested in political issues and debating political issues. And
then a few years ago Kirk met with Rob McCoy,
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who has a church locally here and in newbury Park,
and he got Charlie to mix religion with politics. McCoy's
church is God Speak Calvary Chapel in newbury Park, and
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McCoy is with Kirk's family in Arizona. As I understand it,
So we are going to and they also founded an
as sister organization, Turning Point USA Faith. So Pastor Rob
McCoy very close with Charlie Kirk and the kirk Or family,
and we are going to talk to him in about
fifteen minutes. And one of the things I want to
(09:08):
follow up on that Alex Stone mentioned was this ammunition.
They found some unspent cartridges in the woods along with
the rifle. It was inside the rifle and carr engraved
on it. On the bullets were expressions of transgender and
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anti fascist ideology.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Well, we'll talk about this because it was I had
a weird little instinct yesterday and I actually set it
on the air, and we're going to play you back
a clip from yesterday's show and play you the exact
moment right up to the right up to the second
where the bullet strikes. Because Kirk and one of the
attendees were involved in a specific conversation that is related
(09:58):
to what was engraved on the bullet and engraved to
what we were talking about here yesterday. We'll tell you
all about it next.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
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Speaker 3 (10:12):
We're out every day one until four and after four
o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand. In about fifteen minutes,
we're going to have Pastor Rob McCoy on from Godspeak,
Cavalry Chapel in Newbury Park. Pastor McCoy was Charlie Kirk's
spiritual advisor. They met some years ago and Pastor McCoy
ended up convincing Charlie Kirk to start incorporating some of
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his religious beliefs into his presentations as he toured colleges
around the country and it went over really well. We're
going to talk to Pastor McCoy because he has been
with the family ever since the shooting. I believe they're
in Arizona now. He's coming on after Deborah's News about
one thirty five or so, so you want to listen
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to that, all right, So yesterday when the shooting happened,
there was a specific moment where it happened, and I'm
it has got three short parts to it, and play
the first part this is I'm gonna play cut five first.
This is what Charlie Kirk and one of the attendees
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we're discussing you know, the attendees are allowed to come
up to a microphone in front of Kirk who's sitting
on stage, and they can ask him anything or bring
up any issue and Kirk will respond. And so there's
nothing out of the ordinary. And you're going to hear
the shot at the end. No, we're not going to
hear the shot. Okay, you're just going to hear the exchange.
(11:41):
And we just don't want to play the shot or
any any of the other screaming and trauma because the
words here are important. What were they talking about when
the shot rang out?
Speaker 1 (11:52):
So?
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass
shooters over the last eighty years?
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Too many time? Okay, now mine is a long right,
I'm gonna.
Speaker 3 (12:06):
Give you his credit. Do you know how many maschers
there have been in America over the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Accounting or not counting gang violence?
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Great, and then the shot rang out and that was
unfortunately it for Charlie Kirk. But it was a transgender question.
How many transgender shooters? And you could see the point
that Sky was trying to make. I assume he was
going to get to that it's a tiny percentage of
all the shootings that go on. So yesterday, after I
(12:35):
heard the clip, I wondered about something, and we actually
posted this little piece on Instagram. It was, you know,
our daily promo for the podcast, and I saw some
people said, geez, you sound like Alex Jones.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well this is me yesterday.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't know if it was a coincidence that Kirk
was killed while he was having the exchange on transgenderism
with the audience member, or if.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
That's what caused the shooter to pull the trigger.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
There's no way to know that, no doubt this was
a politically motivated killing, a hatred of what Kirk represents,
a message to Trump because Kirk was so high up
in the Trump hierarchy as an outside advisor and so
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responsible for getting young people to come out and vote
for Trump. And you know, Trump already was targeted twice
just last year. There's a lot of insanity going on.
It was just a flicker of a thought I had
in my head because it was such a well timed
shot right at the end of Kirk's statement regarding the
(13:56):
transgender killers. And then part three, this popped up in
the Wall Street Journal. You heard Alex Stone allude to it.
Don't have much more than what they reported. Investigators found
ammunition engraved with expressions of transgender and anti fascist ideology
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inside the rifle that they believe was used in the
shooting of Charlie Kirk. This is according to an internal
law enforcement bulletin and a person familiar with the investigation.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
So you had these.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Unspent cartridges inside the rifle, and if you look at
the engraving, at least one of the cartridges, the message
was about transgenderism. Because what I wondered yesterday was if
this was a transgender activist and he knew Kirk would
(14:52):
always talk about it at each one of his appearances.
Was he waiting for the moment that it came up
and then the shooter was going to give his response
to Kirk's opinions? Or I wondered, was the questioner part
of it? That was the cue be ready? Because that
(15:14):
exchange took about what did it take? Twenty two seconds?
So the questioner brings it up, and now the shooter knows, okay,
I got maybe fifteen twenty seconds to pull this off.
There was something about the timing of it that just bugby,
and I understand some people thought I'd gone off on
(15:37):
off the conspiracy cliff. But what can I tell you?
Thoughts occurred to me and sometimes I share them here,
and I still I think even more now there's something
to it, engraved with transgender and anti fascist ideology. And
then I flashed back to Luigi MANNGIONI remember he his
(15:57):
bullets were engraved with a message for that healthcare executive
that he murdered on the streets of New York City.
It was a play on the title of a book
about how unfair insurance companies treat their customers. And I
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think it was like denied delay and a third word
that starts with D and that's what was written on
the bullet or the cartridge. And now, so is this
some wacky new trend. Well, we may find out later
today when we come back. We're going to talk to
Charlie Kirk's spiritual advisor from Ventura County, the Godspeak Calvary
(16:40):
Chapel in Newbury Park. He convinced Charlie Kirk to start
in infusing his political appearances with some religion and it
became quite a powerful combination. And McCoy is with the
Kirk family in Arizona. Right now, we'll talk to Pastor
Rob McCoy coming up next.
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Forty Welcome on every day from one until four o'clock
and we have a special guest to come on now.
Pastor Rob McCoy was Charlie Kirk's spiritual advisor and he
is at the God Speak Cavalry Chapel in Newbury Park.
That's where he has his church. At the moment, he's
(17:28):
in Arizona with Charlie Kirk's family, the wife and the
children and everyone else. It's a very difficult time and
we really appreciate Pastor Rob McCoy coming on with us. Pastor, welcome,
How are you, thanks, John.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
Well, all things considered doing pretty good?
Speaker 3 (17:46):
Yeah, Well, I mean talk about your relationship with Charlie
Kirk and what.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
He was like.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
I know his faith was obviously paramount in his life,
sent to everything that he believed in, everything he talked about.
Why'd you describe your relationship with him?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Sure, gentlemen, and you're hitting the nail on the head
that his faith was central to all he was about.
I met Charlie back in what April twenty nineteen. We
were at a conference and I was coming off from
speaking and he looked at me. And the only reason
why I knew him is because my son was a
big fan and I wasn't a social media follower. And
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he said, I didn't know a guy like you existed.
And I said, what's that? And he said a pastor
in politics. Because at the time I was pastoring, but
I was also on the city council on Thousand Oaks.
And I said I didn't know a guy like you existed.
And he said what's that? And I said a young
conservative And we both laughed and became friends. And I said,
you know, why don't you come and speak at our church?
He says, I don't speak in churches. I said, why
(18:52):
is that, Charlie. He said, because churches don't want me.
I'm too political. And I said, Charlie, politics is the highest.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Form of community.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
It combines morale, associability. If God didn't want us to
be in politics, he would have never invented marriage. You
need to be in a church. And so i've since then,
I've seen him speak in person, probably over five hundred times.
I'd never seen him nervous until that morning, that Sunday morning,
he was scared to death and it was one of
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the best sermons I've ever heard. And since then he's
probably spoken to in over a thousand churches across the country,
and together we started what's called Turning Point Faith and
that has over four thousand partner churches. And the idea is,
you know that the misunderstanding that you know here we're
coming up to our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary or
(19:41):
birthday of a nation. And it wasn't until maybe fifty
years ago that they took the first sixteen words of
the First Amendment and they flipped it and they didn't
say freedom of religion. They made freedom from religion. And
then secular progressivism comes in and we got the mess
we're in today. Charlie, Charlie was a phenom. He took
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this on at seventeen, created the largest conservative youth movement
in the world, let alone America. I was four days ago.
I was with him in Korea. In that country under
this new president, Lee is is raiding churches and Charlie
stood with him and one pastor was arrested and he
was getting ready on today's show to defend him prior
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to being murdered. And here we all are in mourning,
but we're not in despair. Charlie. Charlie inspired the entire
generation young people, and that coward who murdered him, he
just hit the hornet's nest. These young kids are they're
going to arise. They just created a mob. But it's
(20:49):
a mob of Western civilization, preserving and advancing. And I
miss him, but I know where he is. I have
no despair, it's we have hope.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So and you're with the family now.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Yeah, So my wife and I heard the news. We
jumped on a plane headed to Salt Lake. We were
with the family last night. And then as we were departing,
they're coming back with the Vice President getting ready to land.
(21:28):
Shortly we had landed ahead of them, and I'm taking
a call with you. Guys.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
He credited you with combining is Christianity with his political beliefs,
as you were talking about a couple of minutes ago.
That's when he started creating like a combination message, because
Turning Point was primarily a secular message until you two
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got together, and then he started creating a mixture of
the two religion and politics.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Andie Charlie was a phenom. He was an autodidac self taught.
He didn't go to college, but he could run circles
around professors and debate. He was a voracious reader. I
just reminded him of America's history. You know, it used
to be the pulpits in America. You go there for
your basically voter guide, and you know the first sixteen
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words of the First Amendment, Congress shall make no law
respecting the establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise
there of. No government's going to get in the way
of man worshiping God. And if you think you're supposed
to check your convictions at the door as a citizen
before you can participate in any type of election, that's
not what the founders intended. They believed in a separation
(22:49):
of church and state. They wanted the state out of
the church, But you can't remove the church out of
the state. Meaning I am who I am, and I
worship who I worship, and those convictions are going to
dict how I operate as a citizen. And Charlie saw
that connection, and through Hillsdale College and a number of
other things, it reignited because he had been raised in
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a generation of churches that you know, pastors say, look,
I don't don't. I don't do politics. Politics is dirty.
I just preach the gospel. And I told Charlie, I go,
that's gnosticism. You somehow, you know, it's moral pietism, that
you're too pure to participate in the blood sport of politics,
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even though we're to contend for you know, our neighbor.
And for one of these young ones to stumble, would
be better for you to have a millstone tied around
your neck and cast and devasotion's he's contending for youth
across the country with pulpits. Wouldn't they just say, I
preached the gospel and they say politics is dirty, and
I go, Charlie. My response to pastors like that is,
so's the church. What's your point? And if they say, look,
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we're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils.
Only if Jesus is running for office, will you ever
not be voting for the lesser of two evils? We're
supposed to contend for that. And within two days he
had devoured every early sermon from you know, the Eastern
seaboard during the War of Independence, including Jonathan Mayhew, and
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he had read them all, and he just was running
circles around me historically, and I was blown away, and
it just it transformed him. So from there on out,
even with all of his campus events, he would boldly
share about the Lord because he saw that they were interconnected.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And was he ever afraid?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
I mean, he got any of death threats over the years,
a lot of harsh criticism, especially with the way the
internet and social media is, it's quite vile. Did that
bother him, restrain him at all? Scare him at all?
Speaker 5 (24:54):
You know?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
I was asked for a comment on that, and I
don't recall my exact words, but I did say that
Charlie built the largest conservative youth movement in the world
with nothing more than the power of the spoken word,
with truth and logic, and he was threatened every day,
and he never used violence. He never asked for violence.
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He used words. But he was threatened every day by
those who couldn't contend with logic and reason. They threatened
to kill him every day, and he got up every
day not afraid of death because he trusted in his
Savior and he knew that his heart was secure in
the Lord, and he didn't fear death, And so he
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get up every day and contend for truth and a
cowardice murderer. And that's what evil does. Evil takes life.
Charlie defended life, and evil mutilates children. Charlie contended for
the he's you know in jumaine hormone blockers that you
(26:03):
won't even give the serial rapists in prison, but you
can give him to our fifteen year olds in California,
and they call that healthcare, and they mutilate them. And
he would hear the stories of Chloe Cole at fifteen
with a double mast ectomy, and he'd look and he'd say,
where are the adults in the room. And for that,
these cowards who couldn't contend or even give the answer
(26:23):
to those questions, who are making major money on the
mutilation of our kids, decided to put a bullet in him. Well,
that's what evil does. Evil takes life. Charlie's not dead.
It's like what Billy Graham said, one day you're going
to hear the story of my death or the reporting
of my death. Don't believe it. I'll be more alive
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than ever. Charlie's living. He just began to truly live
that day that shooter didn't kill him.
Speaker 3 (26:50):
Rob McCoy, Charlie Kirk's pastor. He's with the family right
now in Arizona. Thank you for coming on and sharing
all that.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Thanks am, I appreciate it. John bless you.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
All right, Thank you very much. We'll continue.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
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have had a lot of things to say about the
Charlie Kirk shooting and everything else.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
So that's what is today, Thursday. Today is Thursday.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Oh so tomorrow, yes, tomorrow is the moistline eight seven
seven moist daty six.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Everything's a blur.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Now.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
Coming up after two o'clock, we are going to get
into a few other issues because even though there's been
this overwhelming story of Charlie Kirk getting assassinated, our oppressive
government is still screwing you over and we can't take
our eye off that. And we are going to spend
some time with Angela McGregor after debors two o'clock news.
(27:58):
She writes for the West Side Current, and you remember
that idiot counselman I had, Mike Bonnett, who just turned
the West Side over to hundreds and hundreds of crazed
homeless people. Somewhere along the way, they started spending money,
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or said they were going to spend money on a
housing project on Washington Boulevard. They were going to convert
a former ramata in about a mile from the Venice
Pier into permanent homeless housing. Well, it's been several years
now and nothing's happened. No construction, the construction should have
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been completed, nothing's been done. They were given a zero
interest loan to one of these nonprofits called.
Speaker 2 (28:54):
Path and.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
Nothing and in fact, almost twenty million dollars in grants, loans,
and donations have gone to the project nothing. We'll talk
to Angela McGregor. I am telling you I don't know
who's got the authority to do this, but somebody ought
to declare an emergency and immediately frees all payments to
(29:23):
all homeless nonprofits in La County upon an extremely thorough
investigation by a team of outside auditors, and maybe the
FBI ought to be involved.
Speaker 2 (29:39):
I know Bill A.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Saley was talking about doing a federal investigation he is
the US Attorney. This is ridiculous. We'll talk about that
coming up. Also, we're gonna talk in the three o'clock hour.
I told you the other day that Gavin Newsom in
a state of panic because gas prices really might soar
(30:01):
over eight dollars a gallon not too far down the road,
because two oil refineries in the state are closing, will
be down to six. Newsom was trying to get an
outside buyer to buy the Valero refinery in Benetia. He
can't find an outside buyer. Now they're offering They're offering
Valero hundreds of millions of dollars to keep it open anyway.
(30:23):
Now state taxpayers are going to have to keep the
thing running. He also is signing a bill to suddenly
expand curde oil.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Production in the state.
Speaker 3 (30:36):
We'll talk about all this in the three o'clock hour
with Michael MChE from usc All.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Right, when we come back, what is with this twenty
million dollar.
Speaker 3 (30:46):
Homeless project in Venice. Nothing's been constructed, It's been five years.
Where's the money? Angela McGregor, Westside Current, she'll be on
with it. Stebber Mark Live in the KFI twenty four
Hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt
Show podcast. You can always hear the show live on
KFI AM six forty from one to four pm every
Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on demand on
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