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November 6, 2025 27 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (11/06) - Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with air travel issues due to the government shutdown. Gov. Newsom went to Brazil for some climate change talk. More on all of the air travel madness due to the government shutdown. John lists all of the issues we are facing because of local and national political failures that we covered on the show today. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
I am six forty.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Every day.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
We do this from one until four o'clock and every
day after four o'clock. If you missed it, it's the podcast,
so download it John co Belt's show on demand. We've
already covered a lot of good stuff. I'll give you
a rundown later in the hour if you miss thing.
But I want to get right to Alex Stone, ABC
News because this idiocy continues with the federal government.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
They're cutting flights.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Eventually it's going to be over four thousand flights a day,
you know, a week from now. And it's because you know,
they shut down the government and they never thought about, hey,
maybe we should fund air traffic controllers. Let's talk to Alex.
See how bad it's gotten, and it's how bad it's
going to get. Alex. Hey there, John, Yeah, this has
the potential to be a major headache for anybody who's traveling.

(00:53):
So that the airlines were given about an hour's heads
up yesterday before the FAA came out and announced that
they're going to begin canceling ten percent of flights. They're
going to begin at four percent and then ramp up
to ten percent. And this is to reduce strain on
this system, as so many air traffic controllers and TSA,
but this is about air traffic controllers are calling out

(01:13):
sick because of the shutdown. They've gotten another paycheck that
has a zero dollar pay stub on it, and a
lot of air traffic controllers are saying, I don't have childcare,
I don't have elderly care. If they've got a parent
at home, it could be gas, it could be food,
or they could just be driving for Uber that we
know a lot of them are doing now and Instacart,
and they're making money doing that and they're not going

(01:35):
to come into work. And now forty airports, including the
biggest Lax among them, but also those around New York, Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, Denver, Seattle,
they're being told you got to cut flights. This is
about safety now, not enough air traffic controllers. The TSA
administrators saying they got.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
To do it.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
We have decided that a ten percent reduction and scheduled
capacity would be appropriate. So they say this comes down
to safety, that we are now at a critical point
point where staffing is so light in control towers and
air traffic control centers that to keep the sky safe,
they've got to reduce the number of planes that are
in the air, and Sean Duffy, the Transportation Secretary, is
saying that they've got no other option at this point.

(02:13):
In the end, our sole role is to make sure
that we keep this airspace as safe as possible.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
This is about where's the pressure and how do we
alleviate the pressure.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
And so John they announced a ten percent of flights.
It will begin tonight, but really tomorrow with four percent
of flights already. American Airlines saying it's gonna be two
hundred and twenty flights southwest to one hundred and twenty
somewhere around there. But this is gonna be thousands of
flights and hundreds of thousands or more of flyers having
their flights canceled. The CEO of Frontier Airlines kind of
surprisingly whent on social media and said, if you are

(02:45):
flying out, you should be booking on multiple airlines right
now to get back. And I would say probably refundable tickets.
You don't eat that money. But he's saying otherwise you're
gonna get stranded and you're gonna have no way to
get back because there aren't gonna be enough seats to
get up everybody back who it may if this moves forward,
have their flights canceled the next couple of days. So

(03:06):
this is really serious. Henry Heartfeldt and aviation industry consultant.
He's been consulting airlines for a long time and says
he's never seen anything like that.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
This is going to be an unimaginable, unprecedented, unwelcome, unpleasant
level of chaos.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
So the airlines they've got to make cuts to comply
with this, and they can get creative. So let's just
use you nine it as an example where they have
a large hub at lax that let's say they've got
three seven thirty sevens or seven fifty sevens going to Denver,
and they can swap that out and tell the FAA,
all right, instead, this is about the number of planes

(03:40):
in the air and now the number of passengers in
the air. So they can say, all right, we instead
of three flights at three planes, we've got one plane
in the air. If they swap it out with a
bowing triple seven, and then they can get everybody from
those three seven thirty sevens onto the one Triple seven
and get everybody out if they can make that one flight,
because of course the timing on that flight's not gonna
be the same as on the original flight, So there

(04:01):
are workarounds. But Southwest can't do that. They've only got
seven thirty sevens. Alaska can't do that. Spirit can't do that.
So depends on the airline. But with europe summer travel
season into the fall now going down, they've got United,
An American and Delta more wide body planes readily available
to use those domestically to kind of do a workaround.

(04:22):
But theoretically the impact is going to be bad tonight
and really ramping up tomorrow going into the weekend. And
if you go on the app for most of the
airlines right now, they are warning customers that their flights
maybe or already have been canceled, that a lot of
people are not going to be going.

Speaker 2 (04:39):
Where they want to go.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
And there's nobody in Washington with a brain cell that
is writing legislation to fund the air traffic controllers.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Nothing that we know of. No, there was something to
do that.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, there was some talk earlier today among Republicans saying
that they had a potential deal on that they wanted
to work on to end the shutdown, and that just
a poof.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Why can't they just do the air traffic controllers?

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Yeah, I mean they did the FBI agents. They figured
that out yet to air traffic controllers now, because the
money is still coming in from the taxpayers every day,
we're all paying taxes. The money's piling up somewhere. They're
just not authorized to spend it. Well, and you could
argue not to be cynical about it, but both sides
want the American public to feel a little bit of
pain so that then it is very real at that point,

(05:23):
and it gets the other side to cave and to say, Okay,
well now it's bad, and that the other side will
will cave when it's really now impacting the American public.
Screw of them, screw all of them, the hell with
all of them?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
All right, Alex, Well not you got it? Thanks? John?
All right, Alex Stone, ABC News.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I mean that's just that that, you know, people just
should not put up with this stuff.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
What can we do? What can we do right the second?
What can we do? What can we do before tomorrow? John?

Speaker 1 (05:55):
You ought to flood your jackass congress persons phone and
your senator's phone, and just be relentless. Everybody ought to
put in like ten twenty thirty forty fifty calls in
a row to the same number, blow out the circuits,
send in the emails.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Hey, you know what, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
I saw millions of people with that phony baloney no
King's protest.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Why don't normal?

Speaker 1 (06:20):
Then most of those people are paid and they're with
activist groups. Normal people have to get with the game.
Normal people have to make a stink about these things.
And you have to vote differently.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I was going to say, what if we don't even
vote the next election?

Speaker 4 (06:33):
Nobody goes to the polls, nobody vote, not a single vote.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
Trouble is the wives and husbands of these idiots will
show up and vote and they only need one or
two and that'll be enough.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Yeah. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
We shouldn't be so powerless, but we're powerless because nobody
exercises the power they have.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
The citizens have the power.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
I know it sounds corny, but everybody, you look what
they're doing from top to how many stories of like
done today? You know what, before we go, maybe the
last segment, I'm going to go through all the stories
of all the atrocities being committed by local, county, state,
and federal governments.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
None of it has to happen.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's just because we have vindictive idiots, fools, mean jackasses
working in government, whether they're politicians or bureaucrats or down
the line employees. All this stuff should never happen. It's intolerable.
No way there should be an air traffic controllers strike.
I heard today driving in that some of them are quitting.

(07:32):
They're just resigning. It's like, we're not going to go
through this anymore, or you know yet you can go
to go and make money at uber. I mean, I
remember running into a guy who made six figures on Uber.
He had to work long hours, but at least he
was getting paid. Who the hell needs this? Well, mean,
you know how long it takes it train air traffic controllers.
It takes like two to three years. And now you're

(07:54):
driving other people out, and how are you going to
recruit new air traffic controllers. They're so stone cold stupid
they have tree stumps for brains.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
I don't understand this. And it's all of them.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
It's the Republicans and the Democrats and it's the people
in the Trump administration. I mean, enough is enough. They're
all sitting in Washington. They're all smug and secure because
none of them can get fired anytime soon. I don't
care about their problems. I don't care about their politics.
We have to have an orderly airline system in this country,

(08:28):
and we have to have a safe one. And torturing
the air traffic controllers is stupid and ridiculous and unsafe,
and nobody should be putting up with this. This is
government at it's worse, and it's all their responsibility, in
both parties and the Trump administration, all of them. They
could write some legislation and they can fund the air
traffic controllers. They could do it this hour, So do it.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
So the narcissistic psychopath is in Brazil today. I don't
have to tell you who that is. There's some one
of those phony climate change conferences. The climate change era
is over, the funding is drying up. Countries all over
the world are admitting failure. The voters have spoken repeatedly,

(09:19):
and Newsom is left by himself with some idiot Europeans
and god knows who else is showing up in Brazil. Yeah,
they're all going to fight climate change. What the man
has done to destroy the oil industry in California, we've
talked about a number of times, and it's only going
to get worse. And you ought to pay attention to

(09:40):
the next few minutes. This is from Edward Ring and
he is one of my favorite writers who covers this,
and he wrote for californiaglobe dot com and he says
that ninety four percent of all energy consumed for California

(10:04):
transportation still is petroleum. It's still oil and gas ninety
four percent. There's been very little change in that figure.
And now the oil industry is rapidly shutting down. We've
told you what's coming. The state legislature has got after

(10:26):
the production, the distribution, and the refining of oil in California.
He writes, cities and counties have followed suit. In nineteen
eighty six, California produced four hundred and two million barrels
of oil. Now forty years later, it's one hundred and
nineteen million barrels. It's dropped by over seventy percent from

(10:51):
four hundred million to one hundred nineteen million. That's the
oil that we produce. Now we import four hundred million
barrels a year. We import from other countries, terrorist countries,
communist countries, countries that are far away, countries that have
terrible environmental standards from producing oil. Countries that are so

(11:13):
far away it costs millions of dollars to ship the
oil across the oceans to here.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
There's no reason for this.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
We have an enormous amounts of gas and oil underneath
our land and just off our coast. Drilling permits used
to be two thousand a year as recently as five
years ago. Now it's barely one hundred. Newsom has cut
ninety five percent of the drilling permits. And even if

(11:48):
you start handing out new permits, the companies that operate
drilling rigs, and their engineers and their geologists, they all
have left the state and they've taken their.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Equipment with them.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
There's literally hardly any equipment or employees to drill for oil.
Thousands of oil rig workers have left for Texas or elsewhere.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
Or they're finding other work.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
If they decided to permanently restore California's oil industry, it
would take years. The pipelines that transport crude oil up
and down the state are not designed to physically operate.
If the flow of oil falls below twenty five percent
of their capacity, the pipelines are going to shut down

(12:31):
on their own. Oil producers in Kern County may have
to ship their oil via tanker truck. They're expecting production
in Los Angeles, Ventura in Santa Barbara Counties also to crash.

(12:52):
You have those two refineries that are closing. Some people say, well,
we'll just import more. Will the intake at the seaports
is too little. They don't have the room for the tankers.
You'd have to invest a lot of money to increase
the capacity. He expects gas lines not too different, just

(13:14):
in future major gas shortages, and he's right that's going
to happen. Meantime, Newsom is in Brazil fighting climate change, drinking,
eating and partying with all the pomp foons from around
the world with their phony blooney climate crisis, and the
oil industry lays in ruins.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
You'll see you're listening to John Cobels on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
They've got more on this airline shut down across the
country beginning tomorrow. The La Times has a new story
that they just posted a few minutes ago. So five
major airports in California, lax Ontario, San Diego, Oakland, and
San Francisco are being targeted for cuts. That's five of

(14:07):
the forty airports across the country. Eighteen hundred flights tomorrow
are going to be canceled, and by.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The middle of next week it's going to be four
thousand a day.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
And the FAA administrator said, I'm not aware in my
thirty five year history that we've had a situation where
we've taken these kinds of measures.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
We're a new territory.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
The only time I could think of where you'd had
mass grounding of planes would be like nine to eleven,
you know, when they obviously grounded everything. There's thirteen thousand
air traffic controllers that have worked a month now over
a month without pay, thirteen thousand, and it didn't occur

(14:54):
to the stoops, the stooges in Washington, and both parties
pass a bill to pay the air traffic controllers. These
people in Washington, the Senators, the congressman, Trump administration, they
must be mentally ill. What is the upside of shutting

(15:15):
this down. Do you think the average person cares that
much about your internal political disputes seriously? Or do you
just read all the online kooks who comment on this
twenty four hours a day. What do you think normal
people want here? The Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy. He says,

(15:37):
we're finding our air traffic controllers are taking side jobs.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
They can't pay.

Speaker 1 (15:44):
For the food, the gas, the bills, but they're trying
to make this safe.

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Now, this is really bizarre.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
You have critics of this airline shutdown. Here is Mark Hanson,
a professor at UC Berkeley. He says, it's not clear
the FAA has the authority to even do this.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
What if the FAA can't do this, who's supposed to
do it?

Speaker 1 (16:12):
He says, It's like there's too much traffic in Los
Angeles and the mayor of Los Angeles demanded traffic be
cut by ten percent.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
No, it's not. What you have is a.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Controlled, regulated industry that the FAA has authority over. Karen
Bass does not have authority over the personal driving decisions.
I'm sure she'd like it, but she doesn't have it,
And so I don't get the analogy. From this UC professor,
it makes no sense.

Speaker 3 (16:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Another director of Aviation Safety at USC, Thomas Anthony, said
it's a totally reasonable decision, not unprecedented. The FAA Act
of nineteen fifty eight, they have the authority and responsibility
to look out for the traveling public and do whatever
is needed to ensure safety. Some of the Democrats saying

(17:16):
this has nothing to do with safety. They're just trying
to put the screws to the Democrats. I'm just sick
of that crap. You don't you don't even have to
fund the entire government here, you could fund the air
traffic controllers. I don't think there's a parson advantage to
be had for either side by refusing to pay air
traffic controllers. I think it's just big like stubbornness, just

(17:41):
blind stupidity. I can't believe you vote for these people.
The FAA has a number of major airports this afternoon
experiencing staffing triggers. The traffic controllers are simply not showing

(18:04):
up for work because they can't afford to show up
for work, so they're going off to do other things
to make money temporarily. Alex Stone mentioned that they're working
for instacart an uber. So even the planes that take off,
you're gonna have more delays and more disruptions.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
So this is this is this is absurd.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
This is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever
seen in the federal government because this is arbitrary. It's
not necessary. They don't have to do this. They could
fund the air traffic controllers.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
I mean I can't.

Speaker 1 (18:44):
I'm sorry, I'm repeating myself, but I don't understand this
at all. There's only one thing they have to do
is they write a bill and they pass it, and
it's like the air traffic controllers get money because they
have the money. The US is not broke, there's income
tax revenue coming in every day.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
They're not.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
And the air traffic controllers want to work. They didn't
go on strike. This is not a job action. This
is the choosing of like five hundred and thirty five
of the dimmest bulbs that the human race can produce
here in America forger thirty five congressman, one hundred senators,
and they can't fund the air traffic control system because

(19:24):
everybody's pissed at each other over their stupid politics and
the trumpet where's the executive orders here? Trump's good at
executive orders? Where Where's anybody else on either side saying
this is stupid let's fix it. Any Republicans, any Democrats, Trump,
anybody in the administration, anybody crickets.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Nobody's answering me. You're the only one answering.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I know, well, because I'm really pissed off at this situation.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
I I got a lot of travel this week. This
is all about me?

Speaker 4 (20:02):
No, I know it's all about you, but it's going
to be a lot about it's going to be all
about everybody Else's.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Thanksgiving wedding Saturday. My entire family is going to be
in the air today and tomorrow. Did you book a
backup flight, like Alex said? No? No, And you know why,
because there's only one airline that has all the direct
flights to the city we're going to. In fact, me

(20:29):
and my wife and my sons, we're all traveling from
like four different places and it's the same airline. Because
the way they have this set up, there's no competition. Now,
I could take connecting flights, and I may have to,
but as far as direct flights, I can't believe that
these airlines have monopolies. You go, like, go on Travelocity
and type in a route and you get, you know,

(20:51):
eight flights by the same company.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I go, well, where was the competition? What kind of
system is this?

Speaker 1 (21:07):
There's got to be some kind of pressure the public
can put on these blockads. This is like the worst
execution of government responsibility that you're going to see. And
when we come back, I'm just going to go through.
I had my pile of stuff we already covered today.
I'm just going to go through real quickly all the
atrocities that we are dealing with right now, federal, state, local,

(21:33):
and it's all because of government incompetence. They don't care.
They're stupid on all levels here, and it's stuff that
is just unimaginable. And if we had a normal society
and you shouldn't be putting up with any of this,
We'll tell I'll tell you the whole list, and you'll see,
and then you go to the podcast and you could

(21:55):
listen to the whole thing.

Speaker 3 (21:57):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Okay, let's go through the failures of every level of
government today, huge failures that affects thousands to millions of people,
depending on the issue, at every level of government. This
is just in one show today. Okay, that we covered.
Now what do we.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Talk about a lot?

Speaker 1 (22:20):
The complete failure of the federal government, the Democrats, the Republicans,
and the Trump administration simply to fund the air traffic
controllers and now they're cutting flights four thousand a day
by the middle of the next week, eighteen hundred tomorrow,

(22:40):
all kinds of cascading effects from that. Why they could
pass a bill and fund the air traffic controllers, they
refuse to. That's on everybody. Now let's go to Los
Angeles here. What was in what was this new story today?
Federal prosecutors are subpoeniaing to get those LA firefighter text messages.

(23:07):
You know the story there. The LA Fire Department failed
when they had a hot spot the day after the
New Year's fire to put it out. They had hot
tree stumps, they had hot rocks, they had smoke, smoldering,
smoldering ruins, and the firefighters, three of them, told the

(23:32):
battalion chief, Mario Garcia, let's put this out, and Garcia
inexplicably incompetently said no, let's go home. Roll up the hoses.
We're out of here. The winds start blowing. January seventh,
Palisades fire completely preventable. The air traffic controller fiasco completely preventable.

(24:00):
Let's go on to the fire survivors. All the people
affected by the fire and Palisades in Altadena, many of
them had their insurance policies canceled, They were without insurance,
or their insurance was severely compromised. They were thrown into
the state fair plan. And why is this was the
incompetent team of cal Lara, Ricardo Lara, the insurance Commissioner,

(24:23):
and our narcissistic psychopath Governor Gavin Newsom. Lara and Newsom
teamed up to reform the regulations in the insurance industry
two months before the fire hit. It was supposed to
ensure that most people would get fire coverage in fire
prone areas. Instead, the insurance companies lobbied, got massive loopholes

(24:44):
and had the right to cancel thousands of policies in
the Palisades and in Altadena. And then Ricardo Lara cried,
I was bullied. Okay, Michael Munks had a report on
that from CAFI News. What else do you need to know.
We have the District Attorney Todd Spitzer on You'll love
this one. This is the Orange County government. There are

(25:05):
twelve mentally ill violent offenders. They've been charged with crimes.
One is a murder defendant, and there's no place to
put them. They're mentally ill, but they don't have twelve
beds for twelve violent, mentally ill defendants. So they're going
to get released into the County of Orange with no supervision.

(25:32):
Two of them could be released tomorrow. Why Because there's
a public guardian named David Sanchez who is supposed to
do the work of finding mental health bedspace for them
and commit them to mental institutions. He has not done so,
So they're going to start getting released. Why nobody knows
David Sanchez. They're in Orange County. Just told you about

(25:57):
how GAVENUWSOM destroyed the oil industry.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
Edward Ring wrote a.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Piece in California Globe expect huge gas lines coming to California.
We are only producing one quarter of the oil here
in this state, that compared to forty years ago, and
now the oil pipelines are going to be drying up.
The oil industry has packed up and left for other states,

(26:23):
The refineries are closing, gas prices are going to hit
the roof. All of that avoidable, preventable found out the
Inn Altadena. The standing homes there are still contaminated with
lead and asbestos because the remediation techniques pushed by the
insurance companies and our public health officials in La County failed,

(26:49):
So people can't go home or they could get brain
damage from the lead or mesothelioma and cancers from the asbestos.
That's just in one day here on the program covered
all that. It's all true, all this preventable, all this
incredibly impossibly stupid. But keep voting the way you're voting,

(27:10):
because it's all working out really well. Louke Penrose is
going to be in tomorrow. I don't know what's going
to happen tomorrow. Over the weekend, we've got Michael Krozer
in the news. Our podcast will be on the iHeartRadio
app in just a few minutes after four o'clock and
you could hear us cover all the stories I just mentioned.

(27:31):
Tim Conway is on next and Krozers live in the
KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to
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