September 12, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (09/12) - Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination being in custody. Utah Gov. Spencer Cox says social media is a cancer and John agrees with that sentiment. More on what Utah Gov. Spencer Cox had to say at this morning's press conference. Gov. Newsom is a two-faced liar.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John
Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. Welcome, thank you for coming.
We do the show every day here from one until
four o'clock, and then after four o'clock it's John Cobelt's
show on demand, the podcast on the iHeartRadio app, and
you could hear whatever you missed. Tyler Robinson is the
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suspected killer of Charlie Kirk, arrested last night. It was
officially announced this morning. Donald Trump broke the news again.
He was on a Fox show early this morning. Trump
had broken the news when Kirk had died on Tuesday.
So Trump is his own news network. We are going
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to give you all the details through Alex Stone from
ABC News, who's been covering this. Alex, how are you
doing well? Yeah? This really came after the FBI went
wide with the photos and videos last night. That the
photos came out earlier in the day, and then last
night they held a news conference where they put out
the video of the shooter running across the rooftop of
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the building and then jumping down off of the building.
And according to the FBI and the Utah Department of
Public Safety, he was that video along with the photos
that they had put out earlier, where then Robinson's dad
saw them in Washington, Utah, near Saint George and recognized
that was his son and that his son had, according
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to police, committed this crime. And you know, earlier in
the day the FBI had said, you know what, we've
got photo and video. We don't want to put them
out until we try some of our own techniques on them,
and then if we need to, if we're desperate for it,
we'll put it out. Well, when they put it out,
that means within about an hour and a half, two hours,
they they knew who the shooter was because his father
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saw it on the news or saw it on social
media and then called into to let them know. Now
what he did was he actually called their youth pastor
who is a member of the US Marshall's Fugitive Task Force,
and that pastor said we'll keep him there and then
he was arrested after that. But today that the governor
of Utah saying.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I want to think the family members of Tyler Robinson
who did the right thing in this case and were
able to bring him into law enforcement as well.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And again so I was going to the pastor, and
then the pastor being a part of the US Marshals
task force, and then they got the arrest together. But
they've talked to Robinson's roommate who showed the messages on
the platform discord that Robinson had apparently told his roommate
that he needed a rifle retrieved from a drop point
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in a bush in the woods, that's where police had
already found it. And the messages talked about engraving the
bullets with messages on them and that the scope and
the unique and the rifle were unique. One of the bullets,
according to police, Remember we told you yesterday that they
had different writings on them. One of them was hey, fascist,
catch was what it said on it. Another un said
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if you this, you are gay. And the FBI director
today Cash Ptel, saying.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
In less than thirty six hours, thirty three to be precise,
thanks to the full weight of the federal government and
leading out with the partners here in the state of
Utah and Governor Cox, the suspect was apprehended in historic
time period.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, John the Governor's saying, they can see from surveillance
video that the Robinson arrived on campus much earlier than
they thought. He got there at six twenty nine in
the morning and wore a plain maroon shirt and then
changed into dark clothing, and then after the shooting went
back into his original clothing with the American flag on it,
And so he changed in the middle of it to
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apparently blend in or not be seen getting into all
dark clothing and then jumped off the side of that
building and ran into the woods. And today his neighbors
in the Saint George area, they're saying that totally out
of they didn't think it would be him at all,
that they're shocked. This woman Christian is a neighbor and
she lives three doors down from the Robinson. She was
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a custodian at his elementary school and says he's extremely smart,
always did really well in school. I'm just heartsick for it.
That's not who he was, that's not who he was
raised to be. I think social media and friends that
have gotten it wrong. Yeah, she thinks it's mental health,
and it goes back to social media. She says, as
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a kid with off the charts act scores, that was
always quiet and polite and seemed like he had his
life together, but friends and family have said that he
had become more political in recent years, and at a
dinner a few days ago right before this, had mentioned
that Charlie Kirk was going to be at Utah Valley
University and he didn't like him and didn't like his viewpoints.
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But he's booked at the Utah County Jail now being
held for murder, but the official charges will be filed
the DASS probably on Tuesday, is what they're looking at
right now. And there might be federal charges too. Yeah,
we understand they're working on that. The federal charges are
probably coming. They could be a few days away from
as well, but it'll probably be both federal and state charges.
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Do they think there's an accomplice because he had put
online in that message to his roommate, you know that
he's got to pick up this this rifle. Was he
trying to ask the roommate to pick it up or
to get a third party? At this point, there's no
indication that we know of that anybody else is involved
in this. That it appears that he was asking somebody,
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asking his roommate to come and get this rifle, and
the roommate didn't do it so you know, maybe that
they were buddies and yeah, the request came in and
you're like, what are you talking about? And you don't
do it. Now, that's not to say they're not gonna
find something with the roommate or somebody else. Think of
the San Bernardino terror attack, and they went after everybody
who supplied the weapons in that and the network that
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had been support in some way for helping out. So
it wouldn't be surprising if they figured out if anybody
was and they will if anybody was helping them where
the weapon came from. But they're not that far along yet.
I can't imagine what it's like for dad to be
watching television and see your son running away from and
to know that's him immediately pops up on the screen
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and you say, that's Leddy Tyler. He just assassinated somebody. Yeah,
especially with this kid's background, I'm sure there's stories were
not aware of yet about his life, but wow, Yeah,
I mean we know from photos that he knew his
way around weapons, which is pretty apparent based on the
shot that he took in with one bullet, and that, yeah,
he liked to go hunting and had grown up in
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the Saint George area, and you know, again was a
kind of a quiet kid and was not going to
Utah Valley University, but I was going to a trade
school and you know, just kind of living his life.
Alex Stone, thank you for coming yet. Thanks John all right,
Alex Stone. ABC News at the at the scene covering
the Charlie Kirk assassination and to last night the apprehension
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of Tyler Robinson, the suspected killer, and this morning the
news conference. You know what, I want to play some clips.
I don't know if you heard or saw the news
conference this morning, but one guy has jumped out at
me and I didn't know who he was, the Utah Governor,
Spencer Cox. That's an impressive guy, and I'm going to
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play you some clips of him. I my reaction because
at first I heard him this morning. I did see
him yesterday one of the news conferences, but I heard
him that realized was the governor. And It's like, why
can't we have a governor like this? Why do we
have this wacky weirdo. This is like a grown man,
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a mature man, a real governor, very very concise, very accurate,
no nonsense and progressive. Ideo say just hey, y ay,
and I want to play you the clips. You could
make your own, have your own impression of him. But
he's somebody texted me right away as he was speaking.
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He goes, oh, I want this guy for president when
we come back. One of the things that Spencer Cox
says in his clips is he talks about social media
as a cancer, and last night I had said something
similar to my wife. I said, social media is brain cancer.
It destroys people's brains. And I guess maybe that's why
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I immediately connected with this with this governor, because we
need every adult left I don't know, maybe there's about
six of them to realize that that that social media
is brain cancer. So no more posting. We can't post.
You don't want you can post? You can you can
post all your outfits and your travels and things. Okay,
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that's what it started out to be, right, Yes, Facebook game,
It's like, oh, it's my post photos of the kids
for the relatives, and pictures of your vacation. Uh. And
then it's just turned into this this monster and pictures
of our dogs, pictures of our dogs. Sure this limited
you and I well, I'll get into this because once
I start you know what happens on and go mein uh,
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and you'll tell me the news is late, and then
Eric gives me the look right right, we got we
had three hours. We can cover everything.
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at John Coblt Radio. So this morning was the press
conference where they announced that they arrested Tyler Robinson. He's
he's twenty two years old, and he was considered, as
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Alex Stone explained in the last segment, it was considered
a really smart kid who was had gone to trade
school after high school and didn't cause any trouble, you know,
high test scores, and most people didn't see this coming,
although family says he got very political in recent months.
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Now he's a Mormon kid, and I haven't yet heard
anything about his family life that would lead you to
believe he was capable of being an assassin. I suspect
his brain got corrupted by the Internet and social media,
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and I think the Utah Governor spent youer Cox feels
the same way. Listen to what he said this morning
during the press conference when they announced Robinson's arrest. Cut
number four.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Having won so gruesomely displayed on camera in all of
our hands and in all of our pockets. We are
not wired as human beings biologically, historically, we have not
evolved in a way that we are capable of processing
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those types of violent imagery. And by the way, we've
seen another one with a gruesome stabbing very recently that
went viral. This is not good for us. It is
not good to consume. Social media is a cancer on
our society right now, and I would encourage again, I
would encourage people to log off, turnoff, touch grass, hug
a family member, go out and do good in your community.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's a cancer because it gives you images that you
don't want to see. One of my sons said, he
just opened Instagram. He wasn't looking for this. I don't
think he even knew it had happened. And he opened
up his phone and he's looking at an image of
Charlie Kirk being blown away, and a few seconds later
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there was another image of it, only closer and you
know what he did. He put his phone away and
he took a walk and left his phone behind. He goes,
I don't want to carry this thing around anymore, because
you know, you think you're open it up to look
at a baseball score or a football game or something,
and you see somebody's get stabbed to death on a train,
or you get to see Charlie Kirk blown away. And
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the bigger cancer is all the nonsense that's fed into
the brains of young people. All this, all this, all
the radical politics, and people are immersed in this, young
men especially are immersed in this for hours and hours
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and hours every day. You could raise your kid in
a good environment, a religious environment. You could do all
the right things. Teach him good manners, and teach him
work ethic, teach him be a good friend, a good brother,
a good a good effort. But if he spends all
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his time in his room, like a lot of kids do,
six seven hours a day on social media, well you
know you're not going to be looking at cartoons. Especially
A male mind goes to dark places, It goes to poorn,
it goes to violence, it goes to incendiary ideas that
get you really excited, and if you don't understand why
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the world works, it gets you into conspiracy theories. You're
looking for explanations, You're looking for somebody to say, Oh,
it's it's these people who did it. It's that person,
And I'm telling you it's I remember fifteen years ago
when social media first took hold, Twitter became a big deal,
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Facebook had really started to get popular, and I thought
it was horrific, and I used to talk about it on
the air, and somebody here at the station goes, you
shouldn't talk about it that way. It makes you sound old.
This is the way of the world's going to be
in here. I didn't listen. I just stuck to my
instinct here, No, this is going to be bad. I
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had nothing against the technology. You know, I'm not complaining
here about a car replacing the horse and buggy. I'm
saying the people who use the technology. There's just too
many bad people out there, and too many stupid people,
and too many young people whose minds can be manipulated
and melded to believe almost anything. And fifteen years later,
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that's what's happened, and now we have a whole generation.
I know two people who teach in college. One word
to describe a lot of the students zombies. They stare
at screens throughout the entire lecture. They don't pay attention
to the professor, they don't pay attention to each other,
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they don't pay attention to themselves. They're just scrolling mindlessly, endlessly,
like zombies. Post after post after post, text after text
after text. It not everybody. I think most of the
students who attended Charlie Kirk's event don't fall into that
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category necessarily. But there's a big percentage whose brains are
non functional, and it may be it may be that
way for life, because though your brains are still growing
and forming and changing during your teenage years, and we've
had iPhone came about twenty thirteen, and anybody who's researched
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this can tell you that all the mental illness pathologies
started to skyrocket starting in twenty thirteen with teenagers. And
those people are now some of them are thirty years old,
and much of that generation has spent six or seven
hours a day of their entire adolescence. They don't date.
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They even the bad stuff people used to do. They
don't drink. They're not doing drugs, they're not having sex.
It's like, yeah, this would this would be a paradise
for a puritan. But what they are doing as they're
feeding their mind with garbage, and that's why it's producing
more and more of these bizarro killers, these bizarre political creatures.
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That's now it is a cancer.
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the iHeart app. This morning, it was officially announced to
Tyler Robinson, the twenty two year old is the man
that police say killed Charlie Kirk. Not a student at
that school, although he's twenty two. He went to a
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trade school. And he had been talking about Kirk at dinner.
He wasn't living with his family anymore. He had a roommate,
but he was over the house for dinner frequently, I guess,
and was talking about how Kirk was coming to town,
going to appear at the university, and how much how
much he disliked Kirk because Kirk hated too much. Here
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is the Utah Governor, Spencer Cox, and I want you
to listen closer to him and imagine if we had
a guy like this as governor here in California, What
a different world. This would be quite cut one.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
This is certainly about the tragic death assassination political assassination
of Charlie Kirk, but it is also much bigger than
an attack on an individual. It is an attack on
all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It is an.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Attack on our ideals. This cuts to the very foundation
of who we are, of who we have been, and
who we could be in better times.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And he had that other clip. I just wanted to
contrast it because we played this yesterday. Governor dus was
on a podcast a couple of weeks ago, and you know,
he's come out this week since Kirk was killed, and
said all the right things. It was violent, it's disgusting,
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and this shouldn't be going on. But a couple of
weeks ago he went on a podcast and he had
a different message. Okay, that's all right, let's go on
with Spencer Cox. And and this is an important distinction
that he makes here.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think we need more moral clarity right now. I
hear all the time that words are violence. Words are
not violence. Violence is violence. And there is one person
responsible for what happened here, and that person is now
in custody, and we'll be charged soon and we'll be
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held accountable.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That is great. Words are not violence. Violence is violence.
You know what the progressives tried to up this to
in the last few years. Silence is violence. If you
didn't come out and denounce someone or something that the
ruling crowd deemed appropriate, then you were part of the problem.
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You had to come out and say you will be
forcing to. You have to say something you're forced to.
You can't say I don't want to talk about that,
I don't care, I don't And that was pervasive. I've
seen quotes by college students where they were bullied into
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having to express themselves about some controversial issue. And if
you didn't concede to the bullying group, then you were
part of the problem. I saw that silence and violence
idea all over social media five years ago, bullying everybody.
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And of course if you actually gave an opinion that
was counter to what the mob believed in, then they
would come and try to destroy you, cancel you, get
you fired, get your reputation speared, but silence is not violence.
Words are not violence. Silence is violence. The progressives also
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designed a system where if you disagree with them, or
you even bring up the issue, you're committing hate speech,
which is what they were claiming with Charlie Kirk. Just
debating an issue was hate speech. They've been all about
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shutting down your right to speed, shutting down your right
to think, shutting down your right to keep to yourself.
If that's what you want to do, Here is cut
number three.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Spencer Cox, to my young friends out there, you are
inheriting a country where politics feels like rage. It feels
like rage is the only option. But through those words,
we have a reminder that we can choose a different path.
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Your generation has an opportunity to build a culture that
is very different than what we are suffering through right now,
not by pretending differences don't matter, but by embracing our
differences and having those hard conversations.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, progressive culture has to be challenged. They need to
be on defense for a while, permanently. We have to
get the world back the way it was. This is intolerable.
People have been screamed at, intimidated, shamed, canceled, shut down,
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for over ten years now, and of course it's cuming,
and you know what, they were starting to lose steam.
Trump winning a second time really knocked the stuffing out
of him, and now some of these people are getting
angry and desperate. I assume Tyler Robinson was one of
those because he no longer wanted to talk. He was
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just getting fed on the internet every day about how
horrible everybody is who don't agree with the mob. I
guess Charlie Kirk was on the top of the list,
and he happened to be in town. So Tyler Robinson
was going to do his part for the mob, his
part for the progressive cult, and he was going to
take out one of the leaders. And there's there's hundreds
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of Tyler Robinson's out there, maybe more than hundreds. Uh.
This this, this could be a way of life for
a while, And wouldn't surprise me if there was a retaliation,
because there's plenty of people on the other side who
also have this mindset. And if there was a way
to shut off the Internet and shut off social media
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and do a reset for a while, but that's impossible.
We've got to live with this. And I was thinking
about how how helpless it is, how helpless it is
because this this social media machine is never going to stop.
It has a generation of addicts. There's a generation that
that is absorbing. And again, they're not watching. They're not
looking at family photos anymore like at the beginning they're
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they're not looking at vacation pictures. They're not looking at
messages saying, hey, I haven't seen you in a while.
What's going on? It's not what's that's a long long past. Now,
it's just a sore. It's a toxic sore. And it
has its own language and it has its own codes.
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I want to talk about the language and the codes next,
because the engravings on the bullets. Some of this stuff
is incomprehensible to a normal person, but it meant a
lot to Tyler Robinson and many others. More coming up.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
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Speaker 1 (24:34):
We've been playing clips of a real governor, Utah Governor
Spencer Cox, who was one of the speakers at press
conference this morning announcing the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin,
Tyler Robinson, and one of the things I was struck
by is what an adult he was, how reasonable he was,
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and how he was saying obvious things that have seemed
to allude not only most people in politics, but most adults.
And though he described how social media is a cancer,
and he was talking about how young people are getting
politics only as as rage. Well, I want to read
you the two faces. We call this the two faces
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of Gavin Newsom. Let you reads you what Newsom issued
in a statement after Kirk was murdered, Charlie Kirk's murder
is sick and reprehensible. Our thoughts are with his families,
children and loved ones. His senseless murder is a reminder
of how important it is for all of us across
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the political spectrum to foster genuine discourse on issues that
deeply affect us without resorting to political violence. Best way
to honor Charlie's memory continue his work engage with each
other across ideology through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas
are tested through words and good faith debate, never through violence.
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Honest disagreement makes us stronger. Violence only drives us further
apart and corrodes the values at the heart of the station.
Gavin Newsom after Charlie Kirk was murdered. Now we'll give
you Cavin Newsom from about three weeks ago on a podcast.
This is about the redistricting fight.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Nothing conservative about this, by definition, nothing conservative about that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
This is radical.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election, destroying,
vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I know some people's sensibilities. I respect and appreciate that,
but right now, with all due respect, we're walking down
a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire. We're
going to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
We're gonna punch these sons of bleaps in the mouth.
He says. Best way to honor Charles Charlie's memory never
through violence.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I'm going to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Violence only drives us further apart. I want to punch.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
These sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, now I've enough time right here, but I at
least get started on this. Uh. The the the the casings,
the from from the rifle. There there's four of them
they found, and each one of them had an engravement
on it. Each one was engraved. I should say, how.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I mean that's that that's a whole process. Where do
you go to get bullets engraved with that kind of
tidy print? I just don't know that world. And you
may have heard that. One of them said, uh, hold
on a second here, because once again I'm in disorder?
(27:57):
Are you ever in order in there? I am? I
am usually out of order, and I might be fatally
out of order here.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
What are you looking for?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Do you need my help? Uh? Okay, it's the the
Ingread what was engraved on all the bullets, and one
of them said, hey, fascists, catch, and hey fascist catch
is pretty clear. Catch this bullet. And alongside of it
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was an up arrow, a right arrow symbol, and another
three hours arrows pointing downwards. Now, the symbols could be
a reference to the Iron Front, which is paramilitary group
set up to oppose the Nazi Party during the Weimar
Republic period in Germany when Hitler ruled. Social media users
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have pointed to a video game called hell Divers two,
which was a shooter game, and a code to calling
an airstrike in the game requires players to hit up right,
followed by hitting down three times. Another bullet was engraved
with the words of a prominent Italian anti fascist song
from Mussolini's era called Bella Chow, which is dedicated to
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the Italian resistance who fought against Nazism. The song had
been seen in a Netflix series recently, and then the
final unfired casting casing was inscribed with if you read this,
you are gay. Lmaoh mean's laughing my ass off. Now,
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the one I have not mentioned yet is one that
said ov oh. That was part of it, and ovo
intends to represent a wild eyed face of surprise. It
was followed by the by the phrase notices bulge, ov oh,
(29:58):
notices bulge. Now notice is bulge? Is about the mail appendage.
Daily Mail printed a graphic I guess a meme where
this it's owo actually, and it's printed over a chart
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and there's four quadrants and one of them is called
One of the quadrants is economic, one is left, one
is right, one is economic, and in one square it
says trans people bad. I have no idea what this means,
but that's where this use of OWO is seen online.
In this particular meme. You remember there was a report
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in the Wall Street Journal that there was some kind
of transgender messaging on it. And I assume this is
the connection. So this might be his weird online response
to whatever he perceived kirk views were on trans people.
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I mean, they speak in a language that's incomprehensible. They
speak in a language of weird internet slang and memes
and emojis. And you know, again, he shot, he shot
Charlie Kirk right at the moment Kirk had finished a
thought about transgender violence, violence by transgenders against others, and
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that's when it was like a punctuation mark at the
end of the statement. And so this OWO apparently is
used at least here in this meme about trans people
being bad. I honestly, it's impossible to decode this stuff.
Like this one I'm talking about is the mental plaison
that has seeped into the brains of people where they
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have their own language now and their own rituals, their
own cultures, their own everything incomprehensible to the normal outside world.
And if you spend seven hours a day on this
or longer every day of your life while your brain
is forming, well you can see what comes out of it.
All right, when we come back, we got other stuff
to talk about too. Debra Mark is live in the
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(00:22):
suspected killer of Charlie Kirk, arrested last night. It was
officially announced this morning. Donald Trump broke the news again.
He was on a Fox show early this morning. Trump
had broken the news when Kirk had died on Tuesday.
So Trump is his own news network. We are going
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to give you all the details through Alex Stone from
ABC News, who's been covering this. Alex, how are you
doing well? Yeah? This really came after the FBI went
wide with the photos and videos last night. That the
photos came out earlier in the day, and then last
night they held a news conference where they put out
the video of the shooter running across the rooftop of
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the building and then jumping down off of the building.
And according to the FBI and the Utah Department of
Public Safety, he was that video along with the photos
that they had put out earlier, where then Robinson's dad
saw them in Washington, Utah, near Saint George and recognized
that was his son and that his son had, according
(01:24):
to police, committed this crime. And you know, earlier in
the day the FBI had said, you know what, we've
got photo and video. We don't want to put them
out until we try some of our own techniques on them,
and then if we need to, if we're desperate for it,
we'll put it out. Well, when they put it out,
that means within about an hour and a half, two hours,
they they knew who the shooter was because his father
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saw it on the news or saw it on social
media and then called into to let them know. Now
what he did was he actually called their youth pastor
who is a member of the US Marshall's Fugitive Task Force,
and that pastor said we'll keep him there and then
he was arrested after that. But today that the governor
of Utah saying.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
I want to think the family members of Tyler Robinson
who did the right thing in this case and were
able to bring him into law enforcement as well.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And again so I was going to the pastor, and
then the pastor being a part of the US Marshals
task force, and then they got the arrest together. But
they've talked to Robinson's roommate who showed the messages on
the platform discord that Robinson had apparently told his roommate
that he needed a rifle retrieved from a drop point
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in a bush in the woods, that's where police had
already found it. And the messages talked about engraving the
bullets with messages on them and that the scope and
the unique and the rifle were unique. One of the bullets,
according to police, Remember we told you yesterday that they
had different writings on them. One of them was hey, fascist,
catch was what it said on it. Another un said
(02:59):
if you this, you are gay. And the FBI director
today Cash Ptel, saying.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
In less than thirty six hours, thirty three to be precise,
thanks to the full weight of the federal government and
leading out with the partners here in the state of
Utah and Governor Cox, the suspect was apprehended in historic
time period.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Now, John the Governor's saying, they can see from surveillance
video that the Robinson arrived on campus much earlier than
they thought. He got there at six twenty nine in
the morning and wore a plain maroon shirt and then
changed into dark clothing, and then after the shooting went
back into his original clothing with the American flag on it,
And so he changed in the middle of it to
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apparently blend in or not be seen getting into all
dark clothing and then jumped off the side of that
building and ran into the woods. And today his neighbors
in the Saint George area, they're saying that totally out
of they didn't think it would be him at all,
that they're shocked. This woman Christian is a neighbor and
she lives three doors down from the Robinson. She was
(04:00):
a custodian at his elementary school and says he's extremely smart,
always did really well in school. I'm just heartsick for it.
That's not who he was, that's not who he was
raised to be. I think social media and friends that
have gotten it wrong. Yeah, she thinks it's mental health,
and it goes back to social media. She says, as
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a kid with off the charts act scores, that was
always quiet and polite and seemed like he had his
life together, but friends and family have said that he
had become more political in recent years, and at a
dinner a few days ago right before this, had mentioned
that Charlie Kirk was going to be at Utah Valley
University and he didn't like him and didn't like his viewpoints.
(04:44):
But he's booked at the Utah County Jail now being
held for murder, but the official charges will be filed
the DASS probably on Tuesday, is what they're looking at
right now. And there might be federal charges too. Yeah,
we understand they're working on that. The federal charges are
probably coming. They could be a few days away from
as well, but it'll probably be both federal and state charges.
(05:05):
Do they think there's an accomplice because he had put
online in that message to his roommate, you know that
he's got to pick up this this rifle. Was he
trying to ask the roommate to pick it up or
to get a third party? At this point, there's no
indication that we know of that anybody else is involved
in this. That it appears that he was asking somebody,
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asking his roommate to come and get this rifle, and
the roommate didn't do it so you know, maybe that
they were buddies and yeah, the request came in and
you're like, what are you talking about? And you don't
do it. Now, that's not to say they're not gonna
find something with the roommate or somebody else. Think of
the San Bernardino terror attack, and they went after everybody
who supplied the weapons in that and the network that
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had been support in some way for helping out. So
it wouldn't be surprising if they figured out if anybody
was and they will if anybody was helping them where
the weapon came from. But they're not that far along yet.
I can't imagine what it's like for dad to be
watching television and see your son running away from and
to know that's him immediately pops up on the screen
(06:11):
and you say, that's Leddy Tyler. He just assassinated somebody. Yeah,
especially with this kid's background, I'm sure there's stories were
not aware of yet about his life, but wow, Yeah,
I mean we know from photos that he knew his
way around weapons, which is pretty apparent based on the
shot that he took in with one bullet, and that, yeah,
he liked to go hunting and had grown up in
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the Saint George area, and you know, again was a
kind of a quiet kid and was not going to
Utah Valley University, but I was going to a trade
school and you know, just kind of living his life.
Alex Stone, thank you for coming yet. Thanks John all right,
Alex Stone. ABC News at the at the scene covering
the Charlie Kirk assassination and to last night the apprehension
(06:57):
of Tyler Robinson, the suspected killer, and this morning the
news conference. You know what, I want to play some clips.
I don't know if you heard or saw the news
conference this morning, but one guy has jumped out at
me and I didn't know who he was, the Utah Governor,
Spencer Cox. That's an impressive guy, and I'm going to
(07:19):
play you some clips of him. I my reaction because
at first I heard him this morning. I did see
him yesterday one of the news conferences, but I heard
him that realized was the governor. And It's like, why
can't we have a governor like this? Why do we
have this wacky weirdo. This is like a grown man,
(07:39):
a mature man, a real governor, very very concise, very accurate,
no nonsense and progressive. Ideo say just hey, y ay,
and I want to play you the clips. You could
make your own, have your own impression of him. But
he's somebody texted me right away as he was speaking.
(08:01):
He goes, oh, I want this guy for president when
we come back. One of the things that Spencer Cox
says in his clips is he talks about social media
as a cancer, and last night I had said something
similar to my wife. I said, social media is brain cancer.
It destroys people's brains. And I guess maybe that's why
(08:23):
I immediately connected with this with this governor, because we
need every adult left I don't know, maybe there's about
six of them to realize that that that social media
is brain cancer. So no more posting. We can't post.
You don't want you can post? You can you can
post all your outfits and your travels and things. Okay,
(08:46):
that's what it started out to be, right, Yes, Facebook game,
It's like, oh, it's my post photos of the kids
for the relatives, and pictures of your vacation. Uh. And
then it's just turned into this this monster and pictures
of our dogs, pictures of our dogs. Sure this limited
you and I well, I'll get into this because once
I start you know what happens on and go mein uh,
(09:09):
and you'll tell me the news is late, and then
Eric gives me the look right right, we got we
had three hours. We can cover everything.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
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Speaker 1 (09:23):
We got the moistline coming up twice in the three
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at John Coblt Radio. So this morning was the press
conference where they announced that they arrested Tyler Robinson. He's
he's twenty two years old, and he was considered, as
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Alex Stone explained in the last segment, it was considered
a really smart kid who was had gone to trade
school after high school and didn't cause any trouble, you know,
high test scores, and most people didn't see this coming,
although family says he got very political in recent months.
(10:09):
Now he's a Mormon kid, and I haven't yet heard
anything about his family life that would lead you to
believe he was capable of being an assassin. I suspect
his brain got corrupted by the Internet and social media,
(10:31):
and I think the Utah Governor spent youer Cox feels
the same way. Listen to what he said this morning
during the press conference when they announced Robinson's arrest. Cut
number four.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Having won so gruesomely displayed on camera in all of
our hands and in all of our pockets. We are
not wired as human beings biologically, historically, we have not
evolved in a way that we are capable of processing
(11:05):
those types of violent imagery. And by the way, we've
seen another one with a gruesome stabbing very recently that
went viral. This is not good for us. It is
not good to consume. Social media is a cancer on
our society right now, and I would encourage again, I
would encourage people to log off, turnoff, touch grass, hug
a family member, go out and do good in your community.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
It's a cancer because it gives you images that you
don't want to see. One of my sons said, he
just opened Instagram. He wasn't looking for this. I don't
think he even knew it had happened. And he opened
up his phone and he's looking at an image of
Charlie Kirk being blown away, and a few seconds later
(11:47):
there was another image of it, only closer and you
know what he did. He put his phone away and
he took a walk and left his phone behind. He goes,
I don't want to carry this thing around anymore, because
you know, you think you're open it up to look
at a baseball score or a football game or something,
and you see somebody's get stabbed to death on a train,
or you get to see Charlie Kirk blown away. And
(12:11):
the bigger cancer is all the nonsense that's fed into
the brains of young people. All this, all this, all
the radical politics, and people are immersed in this, young
men especially are immersed in this for hours and hours
(12:33):
and hours every day. You could raise your kid in
a good environment, a religious environment. You could do all
the right things. Teach him good manners, and teach him
work ethic, teach him be a good friend, a good brother,
a good a good effort. But if he spends all
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his time in his room, like a lot of kids do,
six seven hours a day on social media, well you
know you're not going to be looking at cartoons. Especially
A male mind goes to dark places, It goes to poorn,
it goes to violence, it goes to incendiary ideas that
get you really excited, and if you don't understand why
(13:17):
the world works, it gets you into conspiracy theories. You're
looking for explanations, You're looking for somebody to say, Oh,
it's it's these people who did it. It's that person,
And I'm telling you it's I remember fifteen years ago
when social media first took hold, Twitter became a big deal,
(13:37):
Facebook had really started to get popular, and I thought
it was horrific, and I used to talk about it on
the air, and somebody here at the station goes, you
shouldn't talk about it that way. It makes you sound old.
This is the way of the world's going to be
in here. I didn't listen. I just stuck to my
instinct here, No, this is going to be bad. I
(13:58):
had nothing against the technology. You know, I'm not complaining
here about a car replacing the horse and buggy. I'm
saying the people who use the technology. There's just too
many bad people out there, and too many stupid people,
and too many young people whose minds can be manipulated
and melded to believe almost anything. And fifteen years later,
(14:22):
that's what's happened, and now we have a whole generation.
I know two people who teach in college. One word
to describe a lot of the students zombies. They stare
at screens throughout the entire lecture. They don't pay attention
to the professor, they don't pay attention to each other,
(14:43):
they don't pay attention to themselves. They're just scrolling mindlessly, endlessly,
like zombies. Post after post after post, text after text
after text. It not everybody. I think most of the
students who attended Charlie Kirk's event don't fall into that
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category necessarily. But there's a big percentage whose brains are
non functional, and it may be it may be that
way for life, because though your brains are still growing
and forming and changing during your teenage years, and we've
had iPhone came about twenty thirteen, and anybody who's researched
(15:26):
this can tell you that all the mental illness pathologies
started to skyrocket starting in twenty thirteen with teenagers. And
those people are now some of them are thirty years old,
and much of that generation has spent six or seven
hours a day of their entire adolescence. They don't date.
(15:49):
They even the bad stuff people used to do. They
don't drink. They're not doing drugs, they're not having sex.
It's like, yeah, this would this would be a paradise
for a puritan. But what they are doing as they're
feeding their mind with garbage, and that's why it's producing
more and more of these bizarro killers, these bizarre political creatures.
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That's now it is a cancer.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
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A six forty roun every day between one and four
o'clock after four o'clock John Cobelt's show on demand on
the iHeart app. This morning, it was officially announced to
Tyler Robinson, the twenty two year old is the man
that police say killed Charlie Kirk. Not a student at
that school, although he's twenty two. He went to a
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trade school. And he had been talking about Kirk at dinner.
He wasn't living with his family anymore. He had a roommate,
but he was over the house for dinner frequently, I guess,
and was talking about how Kirk was coming to town,
going to appear at the university, and how much how
much he disliked Kirk because Kirk hated too much. Here
(17:08):
is the Utah Governor, Spencer Cox, and I want you
to listen closer to him and imagine if we had
a guy like this as governor here in California, What
a different world. This would be quite cut one.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
This is certainly about the tragic death assassination political assassination
of Charlie Kirk, but it is also much bigger than
an attack on an individual. It is an attack on
all of us. It is an attack on the American experiment.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
It is an.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Attack on our ideals. This cuts to the very foundation
of who we are, of who we have been, and
who we could be in better times.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
And he had that other clip. I just wanted to
contrast it because we played this yesterday. Governor dus was
on a podcast a couple of weeks ago, and you know,
he's come out this week since Kirk was killed, and
said all the right things. It was violent, it's disgusting,
(18:21):
and this shouldn't be going on. But a couple of
weeks ago he went on a podcast and he had
a different message. Okay, that's all right, let's go on
with Spencer Cox. And and this is an important distinction
that he makes here.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
I think we need more moral clarity right now. I
hear all the time that words are violence. Words are
not violence. Violence is violence. And there is one person
responsible for what happened here, and that person is now
in custody, and we'll be charged soon and we'll be
(19:05):
held accountable.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
That is great. Words are not violence. Violence is violence.
You know what the progressives tried to up this to
in the last few years. Silence is violence. If you
didn't come out and denounce someone or something that the
ruling crowd deemed appropriate, then you were part of the problem.
(19:29):
You had to come out and say you will be
forcing to. You have to say something you're forced to.
You can't say I don't want to talk about that,
I don't care, I don't And that was pervasive. I've
seen quotes by college students where they were bullied into
(19:50):
having to express themselves about some controversial issue. And if
you didn't concede to the bullying group, then you were
part of the problem. I saw that silence and violence
idea all over social media five years ago, bullying everybody.
(20:12):
And of course if you actually gave an opinion that
was counter to what the mob believed in, then they
would come and try to destroy you, cancel you, get
you fired, get your reputation speared, but silence is not violence.
Words are not violence. Silence is violence. The progressives also
(20:34):
designed a system where if you disagree with them, or
you even bring up the issue, you're committing hate speech,
which is what they were claiming with Charlie Kirk. Just
debating an issue was hate speech. They've been all about
(20:54):
shutting down your right to speed, shutting down your right
to think, shutting down your right to keep to yourself.
If that's what you want to do, Here is cut
number three.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Spencer Cox, to my young friends out there, you are
inheriting a country where politics feels like rage. It feels
like rage is the only option. But through those words,
we have a reminder that we can choose a different path.
(21:36):
Your generation has an opportunity to build a culture that
is very different than what we are suffering through right now,
not by pretending differences don't matter, but by embracing our
differences and having those hard conversations.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, progressive culture has to be challenged. They need to
be on defense for a while, permanently. We have to
get the world back the way it was. This is intolerable.
People have been screamed at, intimidated, shamed, canceled, shut down,
(22:15):
for over ten years now, and of course it's cuming,
and you know what, they were starting to lose steam.
Trump winning a second time really knocked the stuffing out
of him, and now some of these people are getting
angry and desperate. I assume Tyler Robinson was one of
those because he no longer wanted to talk. He was
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just getting fed on the internet every day about how
horrible everybody is who don't agree with the mob. I
guess Charlie Kirk was on the top of the list,
and he happened to be in town. So Tyler Robinson
was going to do his part for the mob, his
part for the progressive cult, and he was going to
take out one of the leaders. And there's there's hundreds
(23:04):
of Tyler Robinson's out there, maybe more than hundreds. Uh.
This this, this could be a way of life for
a while, And wouldn't surprise me if there was a retaliation,
because there's plenty of people on the other side who
also have this mindset. And if there was a way
to shut off the Internet and shut off social media
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and do a reset for a while, but that's impossible.
We've got to live with this. And I was thinking
about how how helpless it is, how helpless it is
because this this social media machine is never going to stop.
It has a generation of addicts. There's a generation that
that is absorbing. And again, they're not watching. They're not
looking at family photos anymore like at the beginning they're
(23:51):
they're not looking at vacation pictures. They're not looking at
messages saying, hey, I haven't seen you in a while.
What's going on? It's not what's that's a long long past. Now,
it's just a sore. It's a toxic sore. And it
has its own language and it has its own codes.
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I want to talk about the language and the codes next,
because the engravings on the bullets. Some of this stuff
is incomprehensible to a normal person, but it meant a
lot to Tyler Robinson and many others. More coming up.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
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six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
We've been playing clips of a real governor, Utah Governor
Spencer Cox, who was one of the speakers at press
conference this morning announcing the arrest of Charlie Kirk's assassin,
Tyler Robinson, and one of the things I was struck
by is what an adult he was, how reasonable he was,
(24:54):
and how he was saying obvious things that have seemed
to allude not only most people in politics, but most adults.
And though he described how social media is a cancer,
and he was talking about how young people are getting
politics only as as rage. Well, I want to read
you the two faces. We call this the two faces
(25:16):
of Gavin Newsom. Let you reads you what Newsom issued
in a statement after Kirk was murdered, Charlie Kirk's murder
is sick and reprehensible. Our thoughts are with his families,
children and loved ones. His senseless murder is a reminder
of how important it is for all of us across
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the political spectrum to foster genuine discourse on issues that
deeply affect us without resorting to political violence. Best way
to honor Charlie's memory continue his work engage with each
other across ideology through spirited discourse. In a democracy, ideas
are tested through words and good faith debate, never through violence.
(25:58):
Honest disagreement makes us stronger. Violence only drives us further
apart and corrodes the values at the heart of the station.
Gavin Newsom after Charlie Kirk was murdered. Now we'll give
you Cavin Newsom from about three weeks ago on a podcast.
This is about the redistricting fight.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Nothing conservative about this, by definition, nothing conservative about that.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
This is radical.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
Rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election, destroying,
vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
So I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
I know some people's sensibilities. I respect and appreciate that,
but right now, with all due respect, we're walking down
a damn different path. We're fighting fire with fire. We're
going to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
We're gonna punch these sons of bleaps in the mouth.
He says. Best way to honor Charles Charlie's memory never
through violence.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
I'm going to punch these sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Violence only drives us further apart. I want to punch.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
These sons in the mouth.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Okay, now I've enough time right here, but I at
least get started on this. Uh. The the the the casings,
the from from the rifle. There there's four of them
they found, and each one of them had an engravement
on it. Each one was engraved. I should say, how.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
I mean that's that that's a whole process. Where do
you go to get bullets engraved with that kind of
tidy print? I just don't know that world. And you
may have heard that. One of them said, uh, hold
on a second here, because once again I'm in disorder?
(27:57):
Are you ever in order in there? I am? I
am usually out of order, and I might be fatally
out of order here.
Speaker 4 (28:08):
What are you looking for?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Do you need my help? Uh? Okay, it's the the
Ingread what was engraved on all the bullets, and one
of them said, hey, fascists, catch, and hey fascist catch
is pretty clear. Catch this bullet. And alongside of it
(28:29):
was an up arrow, a right arrow symbol, and another
three hours arrows pointing downwards. Now, the symbols could be
a reference to the Iron Front, which is paramilitary group
set up to oppose the Nazi Party during the Weimar
Republic period in Germany when Hitler ruled. Social media users
(28:49):
have pointed to a video game called hell Divers two,
which was a shooter game, and a code to calling
an airstrike in the game requires players to hit up right,
followed by hitting down three times. Another bullet was engraved
with the words of a prominent Italian anti fascist song
from Mussolini's era called Bella Chow, which is dedicated to
(29:12):
the Italian resistance who fought against Nazism. The song had
been seen in a Netflix series recently, and then the
final unfired casting casing was inscribed with if you read this,
you are gay. Lmaoh mean's laughing my ass off. Now,
(29:34):
the one I have not mentioned yet is one that
said ov oh. That was part of it, and ovo
intends to represent a wild eyed face of surprise. It
was followed by the by the phrase notices bulge, ov oh,
(29:58):
notices bulge. Now notice is bulge? Is about the mail appendage.
Daily Mail printed a graphic I guess a meme where
this it's owo actually, and it's printed over a chart
(30:20):
and there's four quadrants and one of them is called
One of the quadrants is economic, one is left, one
is right, one is economic, and in one square it
says trans people bad. I have no idea what this means,
but that's where this use of OWO is seen online.
In this particular meme. You remember there was a report
(30:42):
in the Wall Street Journal that there was some kind
of transgender messaging on it. And I assume this is
the connection. So this might be his weird online response
to whatever he perceived kirk views were on trans people.
(31:05):
I mean, they speak in a language that's incomprehensible. They
speak in a language of weird internet slang and memes
and emojis. And you know, again, he shot, he shot
Charlie Kirk right at the moment Kirk had finished a
thought about transgender violence, violence by transgenders against others, and
(31:29):
that's when it was like a punctuation mark at the
end of the statement. And so this OWO apparently is
used at least here in this meme about trans people
being bad. I honestly, it's impossible to decode this stuff.
Like this one I'm talking about is the mental plaison
that has seeped into the brains of people where they
(31:50):
have their own language now and their own rituals, their
own cultures, their own everything incomprehensible to the normal outside world.
And if you spend seven hours a day on this
or longer every day of your life while your brain
is forming, well you can see what comes out of it.
All right, when we come back, we got other stuff
to talk about too. Debra Mark is live in the
(32:12):
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