December 30, 2025 • 37 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (12/30) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Denise Gitsham comes on the show to talk about the proposed "Billionaire Tax" that could be on the ballot in California. More on the proposed "Billionaire Tax" that could be on the ballot in California. It's a new world and there is no going back. How does an asylum seeker qualify for asylum?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Covelt this week. Good
to be with you.
Speaker 3 (00:10):
Billionaires back in the crosshairs in California have proposed billionaire tax,
one time five percent tax on billionaires as billionaires weighing
leaving California over over the next to over the next year.
And why wouldn't they do? His Nation's Denise get Him,
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gets Him is with us. She's been covering the story.
So who where is this coming from? The governor hasn't
weighed in on it, so it's not coming from the governor.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
There are progressives.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Angling to be the most anti billionaire person in the legislature.
Is this coming from the Assembly? Is it coming from
a grassroots organization? Tax proponents?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Where's this coming from?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's coming from the unions, which is really the power
source for all democratic politics in California. Interestingly, new Some
this is the one time in my whole life has
committed a lifelong conservative that I've ever sided with Newsom
because probably because he's opposed to it, probably because it
impacts him most likely, So he's come out publicly. He's
actually raising the money against this effort, if you can
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believe it. Hopefully he throws as much of his you know, time, money,
and effort and celebrity, you know, resources into stopping this
billionaire's tax as he did with Prop fifty. So you
know who knows all I know is Tom Steyer Rocanna.
A lot of other really prominent billionaire Democrats are saying
therefore it And here's my question. This is the question
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I think everyone needs to ask themselves. If all these
wealthy billionaire you know, politicians who are posturing Tom Saire
is going to be running for governor, Rokanna is going
to be running for president, if they wanted to give
all this money away, they are totally able to do
so right now. They don't have to tell anyone else
to do with their money. But they are totally free
to wipe California's deficit out, the one that the AVENUWSOM
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caused by simply giving their money. Now, they don't need
to wait and change the law enforce everyone else to
fund their priorities. They can simply do it themselves. And
yet they choose to impose this kind of pain and
ultimately not just on the billionaires. This is going to
impact California's tax space so negatively that even Gavi Newsom
has spoken out about that. So it's a huge mistake
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and it's going to cause further dependence on people with
a lot of money that aren't going to be there
for much longer.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Let's talk about the billionaires who are weighing their options.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Where do you go? I mean obviously out of state,
but where can you go? How does that work? I
hear people that are setting up residencies in Florida and
Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How does that all work?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, they're not just setting them up. Most billionaires have
a bunch of houses. That's actually Governor Newsom actually talked
about this. You know, you said most this is stupid
because most billionaires really have multiple residencies. Whether they move
to another state or another country, it's no problem for them.
They've got plenty of people who can make that happen
in the tap of a finger. And what's interesting is
they ask are putting this on a ballot initiative to
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pass in November, and it'll be retroactive to January. Another
interesting point is.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That wait a minute, it goes backwards in time. That's incredible.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It goes backwards. It goes backwards. And it's not about
how much wealth you have in the sense of how
much income you have. It's it's calculated based on how
many assets you have. So if you have no realized wealth,
but you have a billion dollars in assets that might
be tied up in a million other things, you'd have
to basically liquidate a lot of those assets to even
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pay this amount of money that they're going to be
asked to pay. So nobody is that stupid to stick
around and be subject to this kind of abuse. And
we all know that it starts with billionaires, but then
it's going to be, well, anyone with a million dollars
is going to be the next target, right because they
have too much money. It's so much more than we do. Oh,
and then it's going to be the people making half
a million dollars. We know this is a slippery slope.
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This is what politicians do and everyone should be concerned
about it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well there, without question, here in California, progresses are trying
to out progress of each other, and they've decided that
millionaires and billionaires are the real enemy. That's the reason
that your lot in life stocks is because other people
are doing really well. So what we want to do
is take away people showing take money from people showing
a profit, and add it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
To a government running a debt. But let's get for
this for a moment. Why labor unions.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You would think that labor unions flourish when millionaires and
billionaires invest in projects, invest in factories, invest in ventures.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right, the.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Millionaires employed laborers, so why would a labor be mad
at them?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
They're talking about directing this money the schools and other healthcare.
It was actually initiated by somebody in the healthcare community,
the nonprofit healthcare community, ironically, and all of the unions.
One thing I know about working in Sacramento just a little.
I'm mostly in Washington, DC for the political I work
that I do, but a lot of some of what
I've done is in Sacramento. And what I've seen is
that there is a coalition of unions and teachers. And
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it has to do with the teachers unions, it has
to do with the SEIU, It has to do with
all sorts of really interesting interwoven connections where they support
each other and use each other as covers for what
they may want to promote, but may seem unseemly. And
so in this case, it's actually the SEIU and I
forgot the other labor unions, but those are the ones
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that are pushing to say, hey, let's follow this money
into schools, which you know is hard to argue against
if you're bleeding hard, you really, even if you're not,
you want to see your kids thrive, right right the thing,
let's follow these into schools, let's want of these into
low income you know, healthcare, and that's that's really what
they're using as a front. But you know, unfortunately they're
not dealing with the systemic issues with the California you
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know government in Sacramento, which does not have any systemic
sort of reform to turn what used to be a
surplus into a deficit back into a surplus. So we're
just throwing money at a problem without any real requirement
or accountability to fix it.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's going to be interesting to see as the governor
is working or stated to be working against it, We'll
see how successful he is. Because that millionaires and billionaires
not paying their fair share narrative that's hit hard.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
They hit that one hard.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Dangerous one.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's a very dangerous one.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I agree, dangerous one. It's a dangerous one because it
causes Marxism to really rise up. That sense of redistribution
of wealth, which is the anathema of the capitalism that
is lifted a trillion people out of poverty. The opposite
is Marxism, and Marxism is evil because it's greed at
the heart of it. It says I want what you
have and I don't want to have to work for it.
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So this is a dangerous mentality. I'm not surprised to
see Democrats, who are very ambitious and are on the
progressive trained buying into it. But I pray to God
that Calfnians are not co opted into it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Denise, get some news Nation. Thank you so much, good
to have you with us.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Happy New Year, Thank you, Happy Year to you.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
Lou Penrose in for John Coblt on kf I AM
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six forty.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Lou Penrose Info John Coblt all this week on The
John Cobelt Show, talking about the billionaire tax proposal.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We just talked with Denise get some of news nation, and.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So the components of how it got here are interesting
to me. So the labor unions and healthcare providers they
wanted on the ballot Democrats and Progress's wanted on a ballot.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's a real rallying cry.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
There's a war going on in California among the Democrats.
The Democrats are having their own Tea Party. Do you
remember the Tea Party? The Tea Party was a Republican
family fight back in the day. It was during the
Obama administration, and it was over overspending, and there were
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Republicans that did not want to consider continued to deficit
spend and did not want to agree to Obama budgets
that continued to spend more money than we took in
and increase the debt. That's what TA stood for in
the Tea Party movement. It wasn't the Boston Tea Party.
The t and Tea Party stood for taxed enough already.
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We don't want more taxes to spend more money. We
want to reign in government spending. We want to shut
down the government if we have to, but force President
Obama to not sign budgets that spend more than we
have and increase the debt, and Republicans that were interested
in bipartisan budget signings were getting primaried by other Republicans.
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In other words, Republicans were saying, if you signed this,
if you vote for this, I'm running against you as
a rhino.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm going to say you're a rhino. I'm an actual Republican.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'll stand up to Obama. And that was the Republican
Tea Party movement, and it was tough. It was tough
for Republicans. Those you know interleague fights are now Democrats
are having their own tea party, and the tea Party
is over who is more progressive.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And this billionaire's tax falls right in line.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Getting even with the millionaires and billionaires is what the
progressives are all about. So if you're a Democrat and
you're just a normal Democrat, if that's even a thing,
you're gonna get primaried by a crazy Democrat that says
you don't hate the millionaires and billionaires enough, and you
don't want to punish them enough, and you don't hate
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Trump enough, and you're not fighting him enough.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Therefore, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
To run to the left of you and be a
more progressive Democrat and that fight's going on, and this
billionaire tax falls right in line.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It gives them a tool to.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Hammer the other Democrat over the head with are you
in favor of the million of the billionaire tax?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And if you're a Democrat and you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Say, well no, because that'll cause the billionaires to leave,
then the really the Democrat socialist that will be primarying
you will say that you love millionaires and billionaires and
you're not fit, and you'll lose, and the more progressive
Democrat will win.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And that fight is happening.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And I've watched this for a while and I've heard
lots of words being tossed about. And we just heard
from our guest from NewsNation, and she's right when she
says a billionaire's tax is terrible, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's Marxism. I hear all these terms, and I don't
think they're effective.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I'm a I'm a former political speech writer. I believe
in words that work, and Marxism doesn't work. Calling Zron
Mondami a socialist didn't work. Like it's not as much
of a pejorative as people think that don't want them
to win, Like it's not that damning anymore. Nobody knows
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what socialism is. Nobody knows what Marxism is, nobody knows
who Karl Marx is, not the average vote, just like
nobody knows what fascism is.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
People don't use that word correctly.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Everybody that calls Trump a fascist is an idiot because
he's the opposite of what fascism actually is, which is
an economic philosophy of centralized government. Trump is decentralizing the government,
literally eliminating federal agencies, the opposite of fascism. But nevertheless,
fascism sounds like a mean thing to call him, so
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they call him that. A Nazi is a national socialist
in nineteen thirty four, but it sounds mean, so they
call him that. So people don't know what these words mean,
and they use him, and they did nothing to cost
President Trump the election. And just like calling Zoran Mondami
in New York calling him a socialist or a Marxist does.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Nothing to cost him his victory.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So I think we need to have a better elevated
discussion of what we want, and that is we want
opportunity to make our own money, well a lot of it.
There is ways to create government conditions in which you
can make more money.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Forget about the millionaire and the billionaire. You just want
more money.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Stop getting even with the millionaire and the billionaire, because
all that is promised is they steal from the millionaire
and billionaire and give you government handouts. And government handouts suck.
You want to live, you a whole life waiting around
for a government handout. What if the millionaire goes broke?
Now you don't have a government handout. No, we need
to even the discussion. They're talking about making the millionaires
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and billionaires pay their fair share because they haven't and
it's not there, and somehow you get screwed and your
lot in life sucks because.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The millionaire in the billionaire is not paying his fair share.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right, that's a ridiculous argument, but they're making it
and making it well. I propose we make an alternative
argument that there is opportunity to make yourself way wealthier.
There's opportunity for you to have far more there's opportunity
for you to have far better days and far better nights,
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and far better weekends and far better girlfriends. And Democrats
are standing in the way of you getting those things
with their government. Van Jones is on CNN, and I
remember this. He's one of the few Democrat talking heads
on CNN that actually is a thinker. And at the
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end of the day, I appreciate thinkers in politics. Like
you know, I don't have to agree with you as
long as you're thoughtful. Bernie Sanders, I don't agree with
him at all, but he's thoughtful. There's no question he's thoughtful.
You listen to what he has to say and you
can follow it. I don't think he's right. I don't
think it will work the way he wants it to work.
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I don't think the outcome will happen the way he wishes.
But it's logical and he's thoughtful about it, and he's
actually given it thought right.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
There's a number of people in.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
American politics, on the right and on the left that
are deep thinkers, and I appreciate them, and Van Jones
is one of them.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And he made this case.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
He said, look, you guys in New York were out
there calling Zorn a communist, a socialist, the Marxist. It
meant nothing to anybody that is working hard in New York.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And not seeing the results of their hard work.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And that is a legitimate thing to say like, there
are young people and voters under thirty, which used to
be meaningless in American politics, became quite meaningful in that
election because they were the largest percentage of the vote
and the larger percentage of support of a self identified
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Democrat socialist. Imagine that winning an election with the word
socialist in your last.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Name or in your political party. And Van Jones made
the case, and I thought it was thoughtful.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Young people are not what they're being characterized as lazy
kids who just want free stuff. That is not who
they are. These are some hard working folks. Many of
them have gone to college them now they have two degrees.
They're working one, two or three gig jobs and they
cannot get anywhere, and nobody's listening to their pain. And
so I think what you're seeing is when you say, well,
socialism doesn't work anywhere, these kids say, well, capitalism is
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not working for me.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
So people say socialism doesn't work, why elect the socialists?
And the reply is capitalism is not working for me.
So that isn't a statement. That's a question in American
culture begging an answer. So really, what they're saying is
why isn't capitalism working for me? Because clearly capitalism is
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working because you have the millionaires and the billionaires that
you seem to hate.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So capitalism is working. But why isn't it working for you?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And I think that question deserves an answer from those
of us on the other side, right, those of us
that are not democrats socialists, we deserve we owe them
an answer. They deserve an answer, and the answer is
simply this. There is conditions that can be created by government.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Government can't create jobs.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Government can't create housing, Government cannot create transportation, Government cannot
create good health. I would argue, government can't create a
market based insurance system.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Government cannot create these things.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Government can, however, create the conditions in which jobs can
be created, in which housing can become affordable, in which
the marketplace can control insurance premium costs.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Government can create conditions, and we need.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
To find the people that make the government create the
conditions so that you you can go out and make
more money, that you can go out and get ahead,
that you can go out and put your God given
gifts and your talent and your time and work as
hard or as little as you want. You have to
be honest with people, too, right if you want to
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be rich, do it rich people do. If you want
to be broke, do what broke people do. But it's
up to you. What government has to do is get
out of your way, and that has to be a
message that's offered. Otherwise Van Jones is right. Voters are
going to say, well, you say all these things. Socialism
is bad. Capitalism isn't working for me either. That needs
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to be addressed. Louke Penrose ifa John cobelt on kf
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Speaker 5 (17:41):
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Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah, lou just a quick point of order talking about
people being thoughtful. In order to be thoughtful, at least
in this state, you got to find some people with
common sense. And quite frankly, I'm born and raised here.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
I think kissed that everybody with any common sense already
hit the road got the hell out of this place,
which is very sad, very sad, but it is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I appreciate the call, I respectfully disagree.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I don't think California is as liberal as they say,
and I reached that conclusion when I.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
See statewide initiatives.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, when we elect lawmakers, we seem to elect
democrats constantly, Democrat control of the state Assembly, Democrat control
of the Senate, Democrat control of the governor's mansion. Even
when the governor sucks and we successfully get a recall
effort on the ballot, the governor beats the recall, So
I get it. Anybody looking on would say, Wow, what
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a bunch of liberal freaks out there in California. But
then you have statewide initiatives, you have prop is positions,
right referendums on issues, and you look at the results statewide,
and Californians are quite conservative on single issues. Californians are
quite conservative when it comes to rent control.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Statewide. They voted it down right.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
They wanted they proposed to bring back affirmative action. Californians
voted it down.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right crime. They wanted to ease and go soft on criminals.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Californians push back, voted it down so on single issues,
core issues about our society, about fairness to landlords versus tenants.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
A majority and some of these were sixty to forty.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Like Californians overwhelmingly use common sense when asked a single issue.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
The problem is the.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Democrat lawmakers tend to obfuscate. They changed the names of things.
They really do a good job of word salad. And
most of us work right. We follow this because we're
in the news business, and we talk about it on
talk radio because they're usually top stories and they're issues
that are combative. But at the end of the day,
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most of us have jobs and lives and cars and
broken refrigerators, right, and if we have children, we have
that going on.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We can't spend.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
All day analyzing and unraveling a Democrat proposal that ultimately
is unfair and will increase our taxes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We'd have time for that.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So we do the best we can, and the best
we can right now hasn't been good enough. And that's
why the quality of life of California is going down. Look,
you know it's easy to leave. I'm not leaving. My
three sons were born here, my wife was born and
raised here.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I chose to live in southern California. I knew it
from my early.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Years that as soon as I get out of this
crazy house and graduate college, I'm packing my bags and
going to California.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And a lot of people were like that back in
the day. I moved here.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Super Bowl Sunday nineteen ninety, my roommate had an apartment.
His roommate was moving out. It was on Washington and Lincoln,
walking distance to Venice Beach nineteen ninety. Spent Super Bowl
Sunday nineteen ninety in Venice Beach watching.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Beautiful girls couldn't believe it. Sunshine, and it was fantastic.
And I'm happy to have made that choice. I don't
just because we have made some bad choices with policy.
The state's the same. The apartment building on Washington and
Lincoln is still there. The girls are still beautiful. The
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girls in California are so beautiful they write songs about it.
So nothing is wrong with California that cannot be remedied
with what's right about California.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So I don't think it's the people. I think we
have bad lawmakers.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I think they're acting like politicians, but I will not
let it go there. I think the opinion shapers, from
the alternative point of view, which in my case would
be a more pro business point of view, opinion shapers
have not done a good enough job of selling it.
Former House Speaker Nuke Ingridge used to say that half
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of American politics is salesmanship. You have a good idea, great,
you've got to go out and sell it. You got
to get people to buy into it. You've got to
convince them so that they nod their head at the rally. Yeah,
he's right, right, So we haven't sold it. We haven't
sold markets, we haven't sold capitalism. We haven't sold opportunity,
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we haven't sold lower taxes, we haven't sold more freedom.
And in that vacuum, at least in the case of
New York City with young voters, but I thought it
was very instrumental. Van Jones says, Look, you got a
lot of young people that just can't seem to get ahead.
And they're not stupid people, and they're not lazy people.
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It just doesn't seem to be working for them. And
somebody comes along and says I can make it work,
and everyone says, oh, he's a crazy Marxist, is a
crazy socialist. And it didn't impact the vote because most
of the young people said, well, I mean, what's going
on now ain't working anyway.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
So I think what you're seeing is when you say, well,
socialism doesn't work anywhere, these kids say, well, capitalism's not
working for me.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Somebody's got to do something to help me.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
As long as the establishment doesn't have an answer, please
for these young people and then these working class people,
they're going to be going other places.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And we are the establishment.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We're established, right, those of us that are in society,
that have jobs, that have places to live, that have families,
we are established. He's not talking about the established politicians
or the established you know, millionaires and biginnis.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You're talking about us society. We have not offered an answer.
We have not offered a solution.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And I think the same could be said in California
and Comma, I think if Zorn Mondami ran for governor
of California, he would have won on the exact same platform,
which means the next person to run for governor of California,
he's going to sound an awful like him, an awful
lot like him in the absence of pushback. And it
doesn't have to be mean spirited pushback. It can be
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happy pushback. Those of you that are fiscal conservatives in
your own life, and I would argue that women are
fiscal conservatives. The core voting block of the California Democrat
Party is women under forty.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And what's amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
About that is the Democrat Party in California is progressive,
not fiscally conservative. Yet women instinctively are fiscally concservative. You
watch them with their Macy star points, you watch them
with coupons, you watch them take advantage of sales.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know what that is. That is active fiscal conservativism.
You laugh, but it is right.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean they they're mindful when they shop to take
full advantage and make their money go far and not
be wasteful. Yet they vote for a political party that
is wasteful constantly, could care less about cost over runs.
So there's a disconnect there, and that that disconnect is
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on us, the alternative party, the minority party. It's hard
to consider the Republican Party in California the minority party.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I mean, well, I think, what are we doing? How
many state senators?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I think we could fit all the state senators in
the California Legislature in my Toyota minivan. So certainly you
can fit all of the Republican members of the Congressional
delegation in my Toyota Toyota minivan. And after the next
election cycle, thanks to the prop fifty. I won't even
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need a van. We'll get more of this when we
come back. Lou Penrose Info John Cobelt on KFI AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt all this week, which
is tomorrow, We're off Thursday and Friday. I believe I
don't know a lot of a lot of guest hosts
Andy follows the program at four, so he's guessing for
Tim Conway Junior.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's fun and around the America Round we go.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Lou, can you give us a specific example of how
an asylum seeker would qualify for asylum?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Do they have to have a bounty out on their
head or a picture in their post office?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
They can have a bounty on their head.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That does not they would probably qualify for an asylum hearing. Sorry,
so let me make this perfectly clear to everybody, because
I've done I've worked for fifteen years for Members of Congress,
which means I've done fifteen years of immigration casework. Asylum
cases are rare. Almost nobody gets in this country because
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of asylum because there just isn't that kind of political
persecution going on around the world. And by the way,
sometimes it's okay, like sometimes these people broke laws and
they're being persecuted justly. So all these people that are
claiming asylum, the tens of thousands, tens of thousands per
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year in the Biden administration that were all making believe
they were seeking asylum, it was a complete fool on you.
There's no evidence that they are eligible for asylum none.
And even if they were eligible for asylum, it doesn't
mean they get it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
We get to decide who comes in the country. Some
people broke the law in their own country.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Now it wasn't the law in our country, but it's
the law in their country, and they have to obey
the law in their country. So if they're being persecuted
because they broke the law in their country, then that's
not our business. And just because you ran into the
United States through Texas doesn't mean you get to stay
and rip off the state of Minnesota by creating fraudulent
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childcare centers.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
All right, Asylum law is real simple.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You have to demonstrate that you're being persecuted in your
own country, that means facing imprisonment or death on five
protected grounds, race, religion, nationality, membership, and an anti government group,
which is tricky, it's a hard concept. But what's called
a PSG in immigration law, but race, religion, nationality, PSG
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or political opinion. None of these Somali refugees in Minneapolis
that are faking that they're being daycare centers are being
persecuted or face imprisonment or death based on their race.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They're all the same color, they're all the same religion.
They're all from Somalia, so they're all the same nationality.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Last I checked, they were not pro democracy freedom fighters,
so they're not members of an anti government group.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And I don't know if they.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Vote or not in Somalia, but you're allowed to vote
or not in Somalia. The political party one is a
real tricky one because some countries don't have political parties, right.
You can't just start up another political party in Russia.
Does that mean every Russian can come to the United
States and claim asylum. No, we won't grant them asylum.
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You know why, they've broken the law.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Even if if, even if you want to make believe
that all these eli.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Legitimately, we're claiming asylum.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
The only way you can claim asylum is to do
so at the US embassy over there in your home country,
or the next closest US embassy if we.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Don't have diplomatic relations with the country.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
So you can't claim asylum in Tehran because there's no
US embassy there.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You know, you gotta go Damascus. But then you claim asylum.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
There and you wait there until the FBI background checks you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And we're in no rush.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
We don't need you. There are other countries you can
go to. Why do they all want to come to Minneapolis?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
That's the only place. The only other place is at
a port of entry.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You go to the guy I pass poor control, the
US guy with the badge and the gun, and you say,
I need asylum. There chasing me man and if they
catch me, I'm dead. So I need asylum. That happens
at a porter of entry. You cannot illegally come into
the United States. And then only after being caught by
border patrol, after having thrown rocks at the border patrol
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agents in the middle of the night, coming through a
hole in the fence between the United States and Mexico.
Then they catch you, then you claim asylum. No good,
no bueno's that's disqualifying anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You've already committed a crime.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It is a crime to run through a hole in
the fence and throw rocks and border patrol agents. So
whatever your asylum claim was, it's just been negated, and
you can't claim asylum that way. And it's idiotic that
we're even having this national discussion that these people are
asylum seekers.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And what really kills me is that Joe Biden used
to be a US senator.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Kamala Harris used to be a US senator. It was
Senator Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It was Senator Kamala Harris, which means that Senators Biden
and Harris had immigration case workers on their staff, just
like me, Loop Penrose. I know immigration case workers on
Padilla's staff. Every member of Congress and every senator have
case workers. You know what they handle casework? What's what's
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casework to a federal official, immigration passport, veteran stuff, VA stuff,
irs stuff, problems your grandmothers having with their Social Security check. Right,
That's what staff do for members of Congress and members
of the Senate in the in the district offices, here
in California and in all fifty states, they do different things.
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On the hill they basically explain proposals and bills to
the boss, but back home they work on problems that
the constituents have. So you have a problem with social security,
go talk to the congressman. The loop penrose on the
staff will know who to call and sort it out.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Disability check.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Your disability got increase from sixty percent to eighty percent,
but the check didn't reflect it. You call your congressman
and the loop penro on the staff will call the
right person at the VA and get it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Same goes with immigration. So my point is Harris and Biden.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Knew very well that these people didn't qualify for asylum,
yet Biden gave them all something called temporary protective status.
Why the hell you would do that, I don't know.
And of all countries like third world nations that are
known for piracy, and guess what, we allowed a bunch
of pirates to Minneapolis and Columbus, Ohio and we got piracy.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Imagine that. So you asked the question like how do
you get asilum? Well, let's see. You remember Mikhyle Brushnikov.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
He was a Soviet in the Olympics, and he defected
in Canada.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Like that defection. Once you defect from the Soviet.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Union in the eighties, you can't go back because you
will be facing persecution, imprisonment, or death.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
So he.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Was eligible.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Notice that mccalm Vershnikov did not swim across the Rio Grande.
He didn't cut a hole in the fence between the
United States and Mexico and run in in the middle
of the night while throwing rocks at border patrol agents.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Do you see that? Share that works so easy? It's
so easy to so many of us.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Hey love the show.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hey, regarding Tim Walls, you watch before the midterms. He's
going to get some prestigious award for his fiscal management
of the state of Minnesota. You watch.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I don't think that's true. I think this story
is not ending anytime soon. We saw it grow from
one reporter when twenty three year old kid with a
cell phone and a microphone knocking on doors that were.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Listed on the State of Minnesota website.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Literally all the information was on the homepage of the website,
and he was getting doors slammed in his face. He
was getting screamed at by Somali maniacs. And he proved
the point that there are no kids here and these
people are receiving millions of dollars, and all of a sudden,
that blew the littlef Then he went to home healthcare centers.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All over Minneapolis and guess what they called security.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
They don't want to talk to him, And there was
like nineteen home like these are fake senior care establishments.
No nurses, no oxygen tanks, no nothing, no applications, no records,
just some Somali ladies and some big guy telling you
to get lost.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And that's spread.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Now you have another Nick Shirley like guy, a young
kid with a cell phone and a microphone.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
He said, huh.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Let's see, Minneapolis is the largest home of Somali refugees
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Columbus, Ohio is the second largest. I wonder, just wonder
if the same thing is going on here? And what
do you know?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
He found all all kinds of preschool learning centers with
misspellings in the signs and the same old ball wax,
just a bunch of Somali people hanging out back there,
acting like they don't know anything, refusing to answer the door,
and millions of dollars being siphoned from the taxpayers of Ohio.
And now the FBI is there and President Trump is
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rolling in with the ice bands. So I don't think
this story is going away anytime soon. I don't know
how Governor Waltz spins his way out of it. He
can say he didn't know, which is incompetent, in which
case he's part of the problem, not part of the solution,
and should be gone, or he can say he did know,
in which case he's part of the problem, not part
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of the solution, and he should be gone. Either way,
his political career is toast. There's no question about it.
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Lou Penrose sitting in for John Covelt this week. Good
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Speaker 3 (00:10):
Billionaires back in the crosshairs in California have proposed billionaire tax,
one time five percent tax on billionaires as billionaires weighing
leaving California over over the next to over the next year.
And why wouldn't they do? His Nation's Denise get Him,
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gets Him is with us. She's been covering the story.
So who where is this coming from? The governor hasn't
weighed in on it, so it's not coming from the governor.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
There are progressives.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Angling to be the most anti billionaire person in the legislature.
Is this coming from the Assembly? Is it coming from
a grassroots organization? Tax proponents?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Where's this coming from?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
It's coming from the unions, which is really the power
source for all democratic politics in California. Interestingly, new Some
this is the one time in my whole life has
committed a lifelong conservative that I've ever sided with Newsom
because probably because he's opposed to it, probably because it
impacts him most likely, So he's come out publicly. He's
actually raising the money against this effort, if you can
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believe it. Hopefully he throws as much of his you know, time, money,
and effort and celebrity, you know, resources into stopping this
billionaire's tax as he did with Prop fifty. So you
know who knows all I know is Tom Steyer Rocanna.
A lot of other really prominent billionaire Democrats are saying
therefore it And here's my question. This is the question
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I think everyone needs to ask themselves. If all these
wealthy billionaire you know, politicians who are posturing Tom Saire
is going to be running for governor, Rokanna is going
to be running for president, if they wanted to give
all this money away, they are totally able to do
so right now. They don't have to tell anyone else
to do with their money. But they are totally free
to wipe California's deficit out, the one that the AVENUWSOM
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caused by simply giving their money. Now, they don't need
to wait and change the law enforce everyone else to
fund their priorities. They can simply do it themselves. And
yet they choose to impose this kind of pain and
ultimately not just on the billionaires. This is going to
impact California's tax space so negatively that even Gavi Newsom
has spoken out about that. So it's a huge mistake
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and it's going to cause further dependence on people with
a lot of money that aren't going to be there
for much longer.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
Let's talk about the billionaires who are weighing their options.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Where do you go? I mean obviously out of state,
but where can you go? How does that work? I
hear people that are setting up residencies in Florida and
Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
How does that all work?
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Well, they're not just setting them up. Most billionaires have
a bunch of houses. That's actually Governor Newsom actually talked
about this. You know, you said most this is stupid
because most billionaires really have multiple residencies. Whether they move
to another state or another country, it's no problem for them.
They've got plenty of people who can make that happen
in the tap of a finger. And what's interesting is
they ask are putting this on a ballot initiative to
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pass in November, and it'll be retroactive to January. Another
interesting point is.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
That wait a minute, it goes backwards in time. That's incredible.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
It goes backwards. It goes backwards. And it's not about
how much wealth you have in the sense of how
much income you have. It's it's calculated based on how
many assets you have. So if you have no realized wealth,
but you have a billion dollars in assets that might
be tied up in a million other things, you'd have
to basically liquidate a lot of those assets to even
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pay this amount of money that they're going to be
asked to pay. So nobody is that stupid to stick
around and be subject to this kind of abuse. And
we all know that it starts with billionaires, but then
it's going to be, well, anyone with a million dollars
is going to be the next target, right because they
have too much money. It's so much more than we do. Oh,
and then it's going to be the people making half
a million dollars. We know this is a slippery slope.
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This is what politicians do and everyone should be concerned
about it.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Well there, without question, here in California, progresses are trying
to out progress of each other, and they've decided that
millionaires and billionaires are the real enemy. That's the reason
that your lot in life stocks is because other people
are doing really well. So what we want to do
is take away people showing take money from people showing
a profit, and add it.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
To a government running a debt. But let's get for
this for a moment. Why labor unions.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You would think that labor unions flourish when millionaires and
billionaires invest in projects, invest in factories, invest in ventures.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Right, the.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Millionaires employed laborers, so why would a labor be mad
at them?
Speaker 4 (04:36):
They're talking about directing this money the schools and other healthcare.
It was actually initiated by somebody in the healthcare community,
the nonprofit healthcare community, ironically, and all of the unions.
One thing I know about working in Sacramento just a little.
I'm mostly in Washington, DC for the political I work
that I do, but a lot of some of what
I've done is in Sacramento. And what I've seen is
that there is a coalition of unions and teachers. And
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it has to do with the teachers unions, it has
to do with the SEIU, It has to do with
all sorts of really interesting interwoven connections where they support
each other and use each other as covers for what
they may want to promote, but may seem unseemly. And
so in this case, it's actually the SEIU and I
forgot the other labor unions, but those are the ones
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that are pushing to say, hey, let's follow this money
into schools, which you know is hard to argue against
if you're bleeding hard, you really, even if you're not,
you want to see your kids thrive, right right the thing,
let's follow these into schools, let's want of these into
low income you know, healthcare, and that's that's really what
they're using as a front. But you know, unfortunately they're
not dealing with the systemic issues with the California you
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know government in Sacramento, which does not have any systemic
sort of reform to turn what used to be a
surplus into a deficit back into a surplus. So we're
just throwing money at a problem without any real requirement
or accountability to fix it.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
It's going to be interesting to see as the governor
is working or stated to be working against it, We'll
see how successful he is. Because that millionaires and billionaires
not paying their fair share narrative that's hit hard.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
They hit that one hard.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Dangerous one.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
It's a very dangerous one.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I agree, dangerous one. It's a dangerous one because it
causes Marxism to really rise up. That sense of redistribution
of wealth, which is the anathema of the capitalism that
is lifted a trillion people out of poverty. The opposite
is Marxism, and Marxism is evil because it's greed at
the heart of it. It says I want what you
have and I don't want to have to work for it.
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So this is a dangerous mentality. I'm not surprised to
see Democrats, who are very ambitious and are on the
progressive trained buying into it. But I pray to God
that Calfnians are not co opted into it.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
Denise, get some news Nation. Thank you so much, good
to have you with us.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
Happy New Year, Thank you, Happy Year to you.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
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Speaker 3 (07:04):
Lou Penrose Info John Coblt all this week on The
John Cobelt Show, talking about the billionaire tax proposal.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
We just talked with Denise get some of news nation, and.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So the components of how it got here are interesting
to me. So the labor unions and healthcare providers they
wanted on the ballot Democrats and Progress's wanted on a ballot.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's a real rallying cry.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
There's a war going on in California among the Democrats.
The Democrats are having their own Tea Party. Do you
remember the Tea Party? The Tea Party was a Republican
family fight back in the day. It was during the
Obama administration, and it was over overspending, and there were
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Republicans that did not want to consider continued to deficit
spend and did not want to agree to Obama budgets
that continued to spend more money than we took in
and increase the debt. That's what TA stood for in
the Tea Party movement. It wasn't the Boston Tea Party.
The t and Tea Party stood for taxed enough already.
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We don't want more taxes to spend more money. We
want to reign in government spending. We want to shut
down the government if we have to, but force President
Obama to not sign budgets that spend more than we
have and increase the debt, and Republicans that were interested
in bipartisan budget signings were getting primaried by other Republicans.
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In other words, Republicans were saying, if you signed this,
if you vote for this, I'm running against you as
a rhino.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I'm going to say you're a rhino. I'm an actual Republican.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I'll stand up to Obama. And that was the Republican
Tea Party movement, and it was tough. It was tough
for Republicans. Those you know interleague fights are now Democrats
are having their own tea party, and the tea Party
is over who is more progressive.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
And this billionaire's tax falls right in line.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Getting even with the millionaires and billionaires is what the
progressives are all about. So if you're a Democrat and
you're just a normal Democrat, if that's even a thing,
you're gonna get primaried by a crazy Democrat that says
you don't hate the millionaires and billionaires enough, and you
don't want to punish them enough, and you don't hate
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Trump enough, and you're not fighting him enough.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Therefore, I'm going.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
To run to the left of you and be a
more progressive Democrat and that fight's going on, and this
billionaire tax falls right in line.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It gives them a tool to.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Hammer the other Democrat over the head with are you
in favor of the million of the billionaire tax?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
And if you're a Democrat and you.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Say, well no, because that'll cause the billionaires to leave,
then the really the Democrat socialist that will be primarying
you will say that you love millionaires and billionaires and
you're not fit, and you'll lose, and the more progressive
Democrat will win.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
And that fight is happening.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And I've watched this for a while and I've heard
lots of words being tossed about. And we just heard
from our guest from NewsNation, and she's right when she
says a billionaire's tax is terrible, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
It's Marxism. I hear all these terms, and I don't
think they're effective.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
I'm a I'm a former political speech writer. I believe
in words that work, and Marxism doesn't work. Calling Zron
Mondami a socialist didn't work. Like it's not as much
of a pejorative as people think that don't want them
to win, Like it's not that damning anymore. Nobody knows
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what socialism is. Nobody knows what Marxism is, nobody knows
who Karl Marx is, not the average vote, just like
nobody knows what fascism is.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
People don't use that word correctly.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Everybody that calls Trump a fascist is an idiot because
he's the opposite of what fascism actually is, which is
an economic philosophy of centralized government. Trump is decentralizing the government,
literally eliminating federal agencies, the opposite of fascism. But nevertheless,
fascism sounds like a mean thing to call him, so
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they call him that. A Nazi is a national socialist
in nineteen thirty four, but it sounds mean, so they
call him that. So people don't know what these words mean,
and they use him, and they did nothing to cost
President Trump the election. And just like calling Zoran Mondami
in New York calling him a socialist or a Marxist does.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Nothing to cost him his victory.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
So I think we need to have a better elevated
discussion of what we want, and that is we want
opportunity to make our own money, well a lot of it.
There is ways to create government conditions in which you
can make more money.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Forget about the millionaire and the billionaire. You just want
more money.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Stop getting even with the millionaire and the billionaire, because
all that is promised is they steal from the millionaire
and billionaire and give you government handouts. And government handouts suck.
You want to live, you a whole life waiting around
for a government handout. What if the millionaire goes broke?
Now you don't have a government handout. No, we need
to even the discussion. They're talking about making the millionaires
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and billionaires pay their fair share because they haven't and
it's not there, and somehow you get screwed and your
lot in life sucks because.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
The millionaire in the billionaire is not paying his fair share.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
All right, that's a ridiculous argument, but they're making it
and making it well. I propose we make an alternative
argument that there is opportunity to make yourself way wealthier.
There's opportunity for you to have far more there's opportunity
for you to have far better days and far better nights,
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and far better weekends and far better girlfriends. And Democrats
are standing in the way of you getting those things
with their government. Van Jones is on CNN, and I
remember this. He's one of the few Democrat talking heads
on CNN that actually is a thinker. And at the
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end of the day, I appreciate thinkers in politics. Like
you know, I don't have to agree with you as
long as you're thoughtful. Bernie Sanders, I don't agree with
him at all, but he's thoughtful. There's no question he's thoughtful.
You listen to what he has to say and you
can follow it. I don't think he's right. I don't
think it will work the way he wants it to work.
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I don't think the outcome will happen the way he wishes.
But it's logical and he's thoughtful about it, and he's
actually given it thought right.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
There's a number of people in.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
American politics, on the right and on the left that
are deep thinkers, and I appreciate them, and Van Jones
is one of them.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And he made this case.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
He said, look, you guys in New York were out
there calling Zorn a communist, a socialist, the Marxist. It
meant nothing to anybody that is working hard in New York.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
And not seeing the results of their hard work.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
And that is a legitimate thing to say like, there
are young people and voters under thirty, which used to
be meaningless in American politics, became quite meaningful in that
election because they were the largest percentage of the vote
and the larger percentage of support of a self identified
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Democrat socialist. Imagine that winning an election with the word
socialist in your last.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Name or in your political party. And Van Jones made
the case, and I thought it was thoughtful.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
Young people are not what they're being characterized as lazy
kids who just want free stuff. That is not who
they are. These are some hard working folks. Many of
them have gone to college them now they have two degrees.
They're working one, two or three gig jobs and they
cannot get anywhere, and nobody's listening to their pain. And
so I think what you're seeing is when you say, well,
socialism doesn't work anywhere, these kids say, well, capitalism is
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not working for me.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
So people say socialism doesn't work, why elect the socialists?
And the reply is capitalism is not working for me.
So that isn't a statement. That's a question in American
culture begging an answer. So really, what they're saying is
why isn't capitalism working for me? Because clearly capitalism is
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working because you have the millionaires and the billionaires that
you seem to hate.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
So capitalism is working. But why isn't it working for you?
Speaker 3 (15:54):
And I think that question deserves an answer from those
of us on the other side, right, those of us
that are not democrats socialists, we deserve we owe them
an answer. They deserve an answer, and the answer is
simply this. There is conditions that can be created by government.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Government can't create jobs.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Government can't create housing, Government cannot create transportation, Government cannot
create good health. I would argue, government can't create a
market based insurance system.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Government cannot create these things.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Government can, however, create the conditions in which jobs can
be created, in which housing can become affordable, in which
the marketplace can control insurance premium costs.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Government can create conditions, and we need.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
To find the people that make the government create the
conditions so that you you can go out and make
more money, that you can go out and get ahead,
that you can go out and put your God given
gifts and your talent and your time and work as
hard or as little as you want. You have to
be honest with people, too, right if you want to
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be rich, do it rich people do. If you want
to be broke, do what broke people do. But it's
up to you. What government has to do is get
out of your way, and that has to be a
message that's offered. Otherwise Van Jones is right. Voters are
going to say, well, you say all these things. Socialism
is bad. Capitalism isn't working for me either. That needs
(17:34):
to be addressed. Louke Penrose ifa John cobelt on kf
I AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 7 (17:47):
Yeah, lou just a quick point of order talking about
people being thoughtful. In order to be thoughtful, at least
in this state, you got to find some people with
common sense. And quite frankly, I'm born and raised here.
Speaker 8 (18:03):
I think kissed that everybody with any common sense already
hit the road got the hell out of this place,
which is very sad, very sad, but it is what
it is.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
I appreciate the call, I respectfully disagree.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
I don't think California is as liberal as they say,
and I reached that conclusion when I.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
See statewide initiatives.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
You know, when we elect lawmakers, we seem to elect
democrats constantly, Democrat control of the state Assembly, Democrat control
of the Senate, Democrat control of the governor's mansion. Even
when the governor sucks and we successfully get a recall
effort on the ballot, the governor beats the recall, So
I get it. Anybody looking on would say, Wow, what
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a bunch of liberal freaks out there in California. But
then you have statewide initiatives, you have prop is positions,
right referendums on issues, and you look at the results statewide,
and Californians are quite conservative on single issues. Californians are
quite conservative when it comes to rent control.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Statewide. They voted it down right.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
They wanted they proposed to bring back affirmative action. Californians
voted it down.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Right crime. They wanted to ease and go soft on criminals.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Californians push back, voted it down so on single issues,
core issues about our society, about fairness to landlords versus tenants.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
A majority and some of these were sixty to forty.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
Like Californians overwhelmingly use common sense when asked a single issue.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
The problem is the.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Democrat lawmakers tend to obfuscate. They changed the names of things.
They really do a good job of word salad. And
most of us work right. We follow this because we're
in the news business, and we talk about it on
talk radio because they're usually top stories and they're issues
that are combative. But at the end of the day,
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most of us have jobs and lives and cars and
broken refrigerators, right, and if we have children, we have
that going on.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
We can't spend.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
All day analyzing and unraveling a Democrat proposal that ultimately
is unfair and will increase our taxes.
Speaker 2 (20:34):
We'd have time for that.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
So we do the best we can, and the best
we can right now hasn't been good enough. And that's
why the quality of life of California is going down. Look,
you know it's easy to leave. I'm not leaving. My
three sons were born here, my wife was born and
raised here.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
I chose to live in southern California. I knew it
from my early.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
Years that as soon as I get out of this
crazy house and graduate college, I'm packing my bags and
going to California.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
And a lot of people were like that back in
the day. I moved here.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
Super Bowl Sunday nineteen ninety, my roommate had an apartment.
His roommate was moving out. It was on Washington and Lincoln,
walking distance to Venice Beach nineteen ninety. Spent Super Bowl
Sunday nineteen ninety in Venice Beach watching.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
The Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Beautiful girls couldn't believe it. Sunshine, and it was fantastic.
And I'm happy to have made that choice. I don't
just because we have made some bad choices with policy.
The state's the same. The apartment building on Washington and
Lincoln is still there. The girls are still beautiful. The
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girls in California are so beautiful they write songs about it.
So nothing is wrong with California that cannot be remedied
with what's right about California.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
So I don't think it's the people. I think we
have bad lawmakers.
Speaker 3 (22:01):
I think they're acting like politicians, but I will not
let it go there. I think the opinion shapers, from
the alternative point of view, which in my case would
be a more pro business point of view, opinion shapers
have not done a good enough job of selling it.
Former House Speaker Nuke Ingridge used to say that half
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of American politics is salesmanship. You have a good idea, great,
you've got to go out and sell it. You got
to get people to buy into it. You've got to
convince them so that they nod their head at the rally. Yeah,
he's right, right, So we haven't sold it. We haven't
sold markets, we haven't sold capitalism. We haven't sold opportunity,
(22:47):
we haven't sold lower taxes, we haven't sold more freedom.
And in that vacuum, at least in the case of
New York City with young voters, but I thought it
was very instrumental. Van Jones says, Look, you got a
lot of young people that just can't seem to get ahead.
And they're not stupid people, and they're not lazy people.
(23:09):
It just doesn't seem to be working for them. And
somebody comes along and says I can make it work,
and everyone says, oh, he's a crazy Marxist, is a
crazy socialist. And it didn't impact the vote because most
of the young people said, well, I mean, what's going
on now ain't working anyway.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
So I think what you're seeing is when you say, well,
socialism doesn't work anywhere, these kids say, well, capitalism's not
working for me.
Speaker 2 (23:33):
Somebody's got to do something to help me.
Speaker 6 (23:35):
As long as the establishment doesn't have an answer, please
for these young people and then these working class people,
they're going to be going other places.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
And we are the establishment.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
We're established, right, those of us that are in society,
that have jobs, that have places to live, that have families,
we are established. He's not talking about the established politicians
or the established you know, millionaires and biginnis.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You're talking about us society. We have not offered an answer.
We have not offered a solution.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And I think the same could be said in California
and Comma, I think if Zorn Mondami ran for governor
of California, he would have won on the exact same platform,
which means the next person to run for governor of California,
he's going to sound an awful like him, an awful
lot like him in the absence of pushback. And it
doesn't have to be mean spirited pushback. It can be
(24:29):
happy pushback. Those of you that are fiscal conservatives in
your own life, and I would argue that women are
fiscal conservatives. The core voting block of the California Democrat
Party is women under forty.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And what's amazing.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
About that is the Democrat Party in California is progressive,
not fiscally conservative. Yet women instinctively are fiscally concservative. You
watch them with their Macy star points, you watch them
with coupons, you watch them take advantage of sales.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
You know what that is. That is active fiscal conservativism.
You laugh, but it is right.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
I mean they they're mindful when they shop to take
full advantage and make their money go far and not
be wasteful. Yet they vote for a political party that
is wasteful constantly, could care less about cost over runs.
So there's a disconnect there, and that that disconnect is
(25:35):
on us, the alternative party, the minority party. It's hard
to consider the Republican Party in California the minority party.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
I mean, well, I think, what are we doing? How
many state senators?
Speaker 3 (25:49):
I think we could fit all the state senators in
the California Legislature in my Toyota minivan. So certainly you
can fit all of the Republican members of the Congressional
delegation in my Toyota Toyota minivan. And after the next
election cycle, thanks to the prop fifty. I won't even
(26:09):
need a van. We'll get more of this when we
come back. Lou Penrose Info John Cobelt on KFI AM
six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 5 (26:20):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt all this week, which
is tomorrow, We're off Thursday and Friday. I believe I
don't know a lot of a lot of guest hosts
Andy follows the program at four, so he's guessing for
Tim Conway Junior.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's fun and around the America Round we go.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
Lou, can you give us a specific example of how
an asylum seeker would qualify for asylum?
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Do they have to have a bounty out on their
head or a picture in their post office?
Speaker 2 (26:56):
They can have a bounty on their head.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
That does not they would probably qualify for an asylum hearing. Sorry,
so let me make this perfectly clear to everybody, because
I've done I've worked for fifteen years for Members of Congress,
which means I've done fifteen years of immigration casework. Asylum
cases are rare. Almost nobody gets in this country because
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of asylum because there just isn't that kind of political
persecution going on around the world. And by the way,
sometimes it's okay, like sometimes these people broke laws and
they're being persecuted justly. So all these people that are
claiming asylum, the tens of thousands, tens of thousands per
(27:39):
year in the Biden administration that were all making believe
they were seeking asylum, it was a complete fool on you.
There's no evidence that they are eligible for asylum none.
And even if they were eligible for asylum, it doesn't
mean they get it.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
We get to decide who comes in the country. Some
people broke the law in their own country.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
Now it wasn't the law in our country, but it's
the law in their country, and they have to obey
the law in their country. So if they're being persecuted
because they broke the law in their country, then that's
not our business. And just because you ran into the
United States through Texas doesn't mean you get to stay
and rip off the state of Minnesota by creating fraudulent
(28:28):
childcare centers.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
All right, Asylum law is real simple.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
You have to demonstrate that you're being persecuted in your
own country, that means facing imprisonment or death on five
protected grounds, race, religion, nationality, membership, and an anti government group,
which is tricky, it's a hard concept. But what's called
a PSG in immigration law, but race, religion, nationality, PSG
(28:56):
or political opinion. None of these Somali refugees in Minneapolis
that are faking that they're being daycare centers are being
persecuted or face imprisonment or death based on their race.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
They're all the same color, they're all the same religion.
They're all from Somalia, so they're all the same nationality.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
Last I checked, they were not pro democracy freedom fighters,
so they're not members of an anti government group.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
And I don't know if they.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Vote or not in Somalia, but you're allowed to vote
or not in Somalia. The political party one is a
real tricky one because some countries don't have political parties, right.
You can't just start up another political party in Russia.
Does that mean every Russian can come to the United
States and claim asylum. No, we won't grant them asylum.
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You know why, they've broken the law.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
That's the other thing.
Speaker 3 (29:55):
Even if if, even if you want to make believe
that all these eli.
Speaker 2 (30:00):
Legitimately, we're claiming asylum.
Speaker 3 (30:05):
The only way you can claim asylum is to do
so at the US embassy over there in your home country,
or the next closest US embassy if we.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Don't have diplomatic relations with the country.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
So you can't claim asylum in Tehran because there's no
US embassy there.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
You know, you gotta go Damascus. But then you claim asylum.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
There and you wait there until the FBI background checks you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
And we're in no rush.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
We don't need you. There are other countries you can
go to. Why do they all want to come to Minneapolis?
Speaker 2 (30:42):
That's the only place. The only other place is at
a port of entry.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
You go to the guy I pass poor control, the
US guy with the badge and the gun, and you say,
I need asylum. There chasing me man and if they
catch me, I'm dead. So I need asylum. That happens
at a porter of entry. You cannot illegally come into
the United States. And then only after being caught by
border patrol, after having thrown rocks at the border patrol
(31:08):
agents in the middle of the night, coming through a
hole in the fence between the United States and Mexico.
Then they catch you, then you claim asylum. No good,
no bueno's that's disqualifying anyway.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
You've already committed a crime.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It is a crime to run through a hole in
the fence and throw rocks and border patrol agents. So
whatever your asylum claim was, it's just been negated, and
you can't claim asylum that way. And it's idiotic that
we're even having this national discussion that these people are
asylum seekers.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
And what really kills me is that Joe Biden used
to be a US senator.
Speaker 2 (31:48):
Kamala Harris used to be a US senator. It was
Senator Joe Biden.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
It was Senator Kamala Harris, which means that Senators Biden
and Harris had immigration case workers on their staff, just
like me, Loop Penrose. I know immigration case workers on
Padilla's staff. Every member of Congress and every senator have
case workers. You know what they handle casework? What's what's
(32:13):
casework to a federal official, immigration passport, veteran stuff, VA stuff,
irs stuff, problems your grandmothers having with their Social Security check. Right,
That's what staff do for members of Congress and members
of the Senate in the in the district offices, here
in California and in all fifty states, they do different things.
(32:34):
On the hill they basically explain proposals and bills to
the boss, but back home they work on problems that
the constituents have. So you have a problem with social security,
go talk to the congressman. The loop penrose on the
staff will know who to call and sort it out.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Disability check.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
Your disability got increase from sixty percent to eighty percent,
but the check didn't reflect it. You call your congressman
and the loop penro on the staff will call the
right person at the VA and get it all figured out.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Same goes with immigration. So my point is Harris and Biden.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Knew very well that these people didn't qualify for asylum,
yet Biden gave them all something called temporary protective status.
Why the hell you would do that, I don't know.
And of all countries like third world nations that are
known for piracy, and guess what, we allowed a bunch
of pirates to Minneapolis and Columbus, Ohio and we got piracy.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Imagine that. So you asked the question like how do
you get asilum? Well, let's see. You remember Mikhyle Brushnikov.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
He was a Soviet in the Olympics, and he defected
in Canada.
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Like that defection. Once you defect from the Soviet.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Union in the eighties, you can't go back because you
will be facing persecution, imprisonment, or death.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
So he.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Was eligible.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Notice that mccalm Vershnikov did not swim across the Rio Grande.
He didn't cut a hole in the fence between the
United States and Mexico and run in in the middle
of the night while throwing rocks at border patrol agents.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Do you see that? Share that works so easy? It's
so easy to so many of us.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Hey love the show.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
Hey, regarding Tim Walls, you watch before the midterms. He's
going to get some prestigious award for his fiscal management
of the state of Minnesota. You watch.
Speaker 3 (34:43):
Yeah, I don't think that's true. I think this story
is not ending anytime soon. We saw it grow from
one reporter when twenty three year old kid with a
cell phone and a microphone knocking on doors that were.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
Listed on the State of Minnesota website.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Literally all the information was on the homepage of the website,
and he was getting doors slammed in his face. He
was getting screamed at by Somali maniacs. And he proved
the point that there are no kids here and these
people are receiving millions of dollars, and all of a sudden,
that blew the littlef Then he went to home healthcare centers.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
All over Minneapolis and guess what they called security.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
They don't want to talk to him, And there was
like nineteen home like these are fake senior care establishments.
No nurses, no oxygen tanks, no nothing, no applications, no records,
just some Somali ladies and some big guy telling you
to get lost.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
And that's spread.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Now you have another Nick Shirley like guy, a young
kid with a cell phone and a microphone.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
He said, huh.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Let's see, Minneapolis is the largest home of Somali refugees
in the United States.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Columbus, Ohio is the second largest. I wonder, just wonder
if the same thing is going on here? And what
do you know?
Speaker 3 (35:59):
He found all all kinds of preschool learning centers with
misspellings in the signs and the same old ball wax,
just a bunch of Somali people hanging out back there,
acting like they don't know anything, refusing to answer the door,
and millions of dollars being siphoned from the taxpayers of Ohio.
And now the FBI is there and President Trump is
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rolling in with the ice bands. So I don't think
this story is going away anytime soon. I don't know
how Governor Waltz spins his way out of it. He
can say he didn't know, which is incompetent, in which
case he's part of the problem, not part of the solution,
and should be gone, or he can say he did know,
in which case he's part of the problem, not part
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of the solution, and he should be gone. Either way,
his political career is toast. There's no question about it.
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