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every single minute of the day. We have much to do.
We're gonna get later in the show. One of the
best news reports I've ever heard woke up to this
morning Fox News. Our friend Bill Mclusion he was able
to go on a ride along with Ice in Boston.
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Boston's a sanctuary city and this is the first week
of Trump's promise to rid the United States of criminal
illegal aliens. And wow, you got to hear this ride
along report because they were in Boston was five degrees
and Boston's one of those stupid sanctuary cities like La Is.
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Let me tell you you listen to the kind of
characters that Ice rounded up in Boston today, and we've
got plenty of those here in Los Angeles. And this
is the crowd that Karen Bass and Gavin Newsom are
protecting and after you hear this report, you tell me
if there should even be a concept as a sanctuary city,
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let alone that's what we're living in. Oh yeah, yeah,
all right, that's coming up later in the show. But first,
the used fire broke out a little over twenty four
hours ago and just exploded, and tens of thousands of
people ended up under evacuation orders or warnings, and we
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are going to go down to Nancy lou from News
Nation to tell us what the current status of this
fire is and how everybody's doing.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Hey, how are you, Hey, John, Yeah, I'm doing great.
And the situation here on the ground at the Hues fire,
it looks to be really good compared to last night
when we're out here. They put so many assets on
this fighting this so aggressively yesterday, putting down just thousands
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of gallons of retardant and coming at it through the air.
They have really limited it to the forested areas north
of Castaic, so there are hotspots right now. But we're
hearing that evacuation orders are being lifted and eased up
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to just warnings for a lot of the people who
are impacted. So the situation looks good. However, the Santa
Ana winds are still with us, and you know, we've
got red flag warning through tomorrow, so the threat is
not over yet. But just the surge in fire resources
in our region that has really helped and zapping fires quickly.
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Because John, you know you heard about the Laguna fire
over in Ventura. We had the Subpelvita fire which was
threatening bel Aire and brent Wood overnight. They were able
to zap that pretty quickly. So that surge in resources
in the past couple of weeks, you know, that has
helped in these firefights because we've just got cruise going
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very aggressively, John, Right, and this.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Is not just La County, La City, but we've got
cruise in from all over the world, and we've got
the National Guard and military. I mean, we've got just
a tremendous army that's stopping these fires.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, and it's so amazing to watch them in action.
I just watched a crew from Utah stomping out a
hotspot right in front of me and they were so
adept at it. And you know, and watching the air
assault yesterday. I mean, our helicopter pilots, they are so
adept at just zapping hotspots set with precision and watching
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those DC tens drop the fire retardant and just I
mean thousands of gallons of retardant at once to protect communities.
So it's just been impressive to watch over the past
twenty four hours.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Do you know why if there's a fire in Ventura
County they're calling it the Laguna fire? That's there been
a that is that that is just the worst name.
Because I saw that, I thought, oh, no, lagoon's on fire,
because I covered the Laguna Fire years and years ago
and that was devastating. Why would they Why would they
use Laguna when you're in Ventora.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
You know, I was thinking the same thing, John, And
I have no idea of here at the huge fire.
And I know that this fire started on Lake Hughes Road,
which is why it's the huge fire, But that Laguna
situation inventory, I don't know I have.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Yeah, I can't imagine how many people in the real Laguna,
you know, woke up and goes, oh my god, now what?
Oh yeah, yeah, I don't understand what goes on in
government heads. All right, sorry, so and and and so.
Nobody hurt. I've not seen the rapport anyone hurt or
anyone lost Angeles from the huge fire.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Yeah, the huge fire just an amazing effort by fire crews.
Hats off to all of them. They limited it to
really the forested area, and you know Pastaic is buffered
by Pastaic Lake, so yeah, they were able to prevent
it from jumping. And of course yesterday you know the
big concern about it jumping. I five, it never happened.
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So yeah, the fire crews were able to really zapp it.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, when you actually send the crews out, that's the
one thing that didn't happen in the palis Ades quickly
enough that these crews are are just tremendous. I keep
saying they're just superheroes. All right, Well, Nancy Newstation, thank
you for coming on with us.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Thanks for having me John.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
All right, Nancy, Nancy Luke. Now, uh, the supulvit of
fire last night, which makes sense, it was in the
supult of basin bell Air headed towards Brentwood. Did you
get an alert? Well, I uh, I was really deeply
asleep last night.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Of course, we must be nice.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I had the phone next to me, and I guess
it kept going off with a little bit of a
bit of sound, you know, from the from the watch
Duty app. Didn't hear any of it. I didn't know
until this morning. I woke up about seven o'clock or
six thirty, and I saw these notifications. Right, I'd all
stacked up on my screen. It's like, oh, something happened. Hey, wait,
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that's your wife. Never sleep. She got she got sick,
and see she loaded up on all kinds of medications,
so she was some time too. Yeah. I actually I
actually had to leave her alone. I went to the
bedroom next door, well not the mark neighbors had. I mean,
he went down the street, just knocked on doors, carrying
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a blanket and a pillow.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
No.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I went went into my son's room and I slept
there and I was just I was just out. She
was out. I wasn't keeping her up, she wasn't keeping
me up. So I knocked out. That last night would
have been the night that if the fire went towards
our home. Yeah, we probably would have been burnt to
a crisp because we didn't move. And I just saw
all these notifications, and they did evacuate a neighborhood about
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two miles directly to my north up Up like the
top of the hill Hirea, the well, the Brentwood area,
you know, on the other side of the four or five.
They thought maybe it was going to jump, and from
the four h five if you go a mile in
at about two miles north of me, then that that
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neighborhood that would have been uncomfortably close.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
They were able to crack down on that fire pretty
quickly because the winds weren't so bad. From what I hear,
only forty acres burned.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Yeah, no, that thing started and ended before I woke up.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So yeah, I got the notifications, but they weren't the
same notifications because I'm not I'm.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
Not in your area.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
But I did see that there was a fire when
I woke up. I said, oh oh no, yeah, it
was already you know, forward progress was still.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
And now I'm reading that the red flag warnings are
extended till tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, ten am tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
It's this ever gonna end. It's been fourteen out of
the last seventeen days we've had red flag warnings. I
hate this year so far. I do not ever remember
this extended a red flag warning period, high wind warning period. Now,
so this is.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Today, we have eighties so tomorrow it's going to be cooler,
and then it's going to be in the fifties over
the weekend in raining.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
It's just nuts. Yeah, I know, but it's exhausted. It's
just so exhausting. By the way, what the Laguna fire,
according to Calfire's website, started at Laguna Road and Lewis
Road and Camerio. So Laguna Road is how about came
of real fire? It's is gonna go out on a
limb hear and say maybe they should designate the towns
in which the fire started at. And by the way, that.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Fire forward progress has been stopped.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
All right, all good news. Shocking that you can burn
ten thousand acres in Los Angeles County and not burn
a single house or any kind of structure. When we
come back, we're going to start getting into this bill
and Illusion Report because it is really important. It's going
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to have a dramatic effect on the whole country, and
they're going to keep doing this. Illusion got to go
on a ride along with Ice in Boston, one of
those idiotic sanctuary cities. They have a super woke mayor,
and look what they found. These are violent criminal aliens
who are living openly in the Boston area, and this
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week ICE went in and busted a lot of them.
We'll talk about it. We're gonna play Bill's report coming up.
Speaker 5 (09:52):
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Speaker 1 (09:58):
All right, this is a remarkable Our friend Bill Mlusian,
who's come on our show many times from Fox News
and has spent quite a few years now covering the border,
I mean, being stationed directly at the border for several years,
and continues now covering now the aftermath of the Trump
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election and his executive orders and his promise that ICE
is going to round up all the criminal illegal aliens,
which you're about to hear, really is extraordinary. They had
a raid in Boston. Boston is one of those dumbass
sanctuary cities. They've got an idiot woke mare, and they
were harboring a lot of violent criminals in Boston. The
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the the ICE investigators, the officers had leads on where
these people were, been tracking him for a couple of weeks,
and then very early in the morning, when it's five
degrees they go and and and raid these these wherever
they're hiding in their apartments. U and Bill was there
along the way, so follow on is a great report.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Good morning everyone.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
It's a frigid five degrees in the pre dawn hours
just outside of Boston where this team of elite ICE
officers is briefing on their targets for the day.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
We're gonna be targeting some extremely violent offenders today.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Within moments, the officers are on the move with eyes on.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Their first target.
Speaker 5 (11:26):
Looks like we have movement photographa for coming on.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
They quickly take him into custody. He's an MS thirteen
gang member wanted NL Salvador for aggravated murder and he
has an Interpal red notice out for his arrest.
Speaker 6 (11:40):
We are targeting very violently.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Threats to our community.
Speaker 7 (11:46):
I'm not going back to Hayden.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
One of those threats is this illegal alien from Haiti.
I says he's a gang member with seventeen criminal convictions
in recent years.
Speaker 7 (11:57):
I mean, no Biden, Obama, but everything that he's fit
for me.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Sold ICE Boston quickly takes down its next targets, including
this illegal alien from Brazil who has an Interpol red
notice for armed robbery. This salvadoran illegal alien charged locally
with rape and released by a sanctuary jurisdiction Coen Say
and this Dominican illegal alien charged with assault with the
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deadly weapon and heroin trafficking. Officers also arrested this Guatemalan
MS thirteen gang member facing gun charges. I says he
was released from local custody just the day before their
detainer request was ignored because of sanctuary policies and in
a sign of shifting priorities with the new Trump administration.
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This man, who was in the same apartment as the target,
was also arrested after ICE determined he's also in the
US illegally. This is what ICE calls collateral. So you
guys got your main target just now, but you got
somebody else.
Speaker 6 (12:58):
What just happened, Sorry, main target was released by a
sanctuary JERI six years, not honorary a detainer. That person
was released back into the communities, And when we want
to go find him, he's with somebody else who was
previously removed from the United States.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
So he's going to go today too, And that is
exactly what borders our Tom Homan has borned what happen.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
When we find the bad guy, he's probably with others,
others that are in the United States.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
So legally, they may not be a criminal priority, but
we're not walking away from them. Ice Boston says they
will continue to go into sanctuary jurisdictions and do their job.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Today it is a good day.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Today we took several significant public safety threats out.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Of our communities.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
Unfortunately a lot were released by sanctuary pologies.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
But we're here to tell the Commonwealth and the rest
of the country that we're going to find them, whether
they're released or not.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And guys, shortly after we finished filming, Ice Boston told
us they arrested two more targets and other parts of
town away from our cameras. One of those targets is
a previously deported high door an illegal alien who was
arrested for raping a woman while putting a gun in
her mouth. The other target they got is a Haitian
man who first flew into the United States in twenty
twenty three as part of President Biden's controversial migrant Flights
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mass parole program. Well, they just picked him up yesterday
because he's been arrested locally for sexual assaults.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I've been trying to take notes on all the suspects
that they rounded up here. It is it is so
stunning and infuriating. The first guy MS thirteen from l
Salvador victed of aggravated murder, Well, what aggravated murder? Not
just an ordinary murder, aggravated murder, and Boston was protecting him.
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The city is run by Mayor Michelle Wu, super woke,
super progressive. Now I'm asking you because I'm trying to
just and why people vote for the for the leaders
they vote for. Do you think that we should be
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giving sanctuary to a guy who committed aggravated murder, an
illegal alien from El Salvador, who's a member of the
one and the most one of the most violent gangs
ever created MS thirteen. Do you do you think that
that should be our policy that if the Feds locate him,
that our police, our sheriff's department, our jail officials should
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not help in having this guy arrested and deported. Is
that what you want? You want that I'm just a
stunt because if they found you know, this many in
one morning in Boston, can you imagine what's here in
Los Angeles? Then he had the Haitian, a gang member
who's got seventeen convictions, seventeen of them, and We're going
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to isolate what he was shouting. In case you didn't
pick it up.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
Play that feel me go Biden forever, bro They Obama
everything that he picked for me bothen.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
So it was f Trump, Go Biden forever, Yo, Biden forever,
Jo Biden forever, and then thank Obama for everything he did.
Seventeen convictions, seventeen of them. F Trump, Jo Biden, Thank Obama.
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That's the guy you want in the neighborhood. And how
about the one who was accused of raping a woman
by putting a gun in her mouth? How about the
one that Joe Biden flew in here? The last one
that Malusian mentioned, they were flying in I legal aliens
who wanted sanctuary, wanted asylum, They picking them up in
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their home country. He came here to this country and
immediately committed a sexual assault. So you tell me why
you don't want these people arrested, jailed, deported. I don't
understand why, because the law they have in Boston is
the exact same law we have here in Los Angeles.
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God knows what we're going to find when they turn
their sights on Los Angeles, and it's this Karen Bass
Karen Bass is the same as Michelle Wou Karen Bass
when she's not dealing with fire. Somebody ought to say
you pushed a law, because they just rewrote the law.
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They strengthened the law, reasserted the law a couple of
weeks ago. Sanctuary. We've got more on Bill Mlusian's report
when we come back.
Speaker 5 (17:51):
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Speaker 1 (17:57):
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seven seven moist eighty six on the moistline tomorrow. Uh,
we've been playing for you. Uh. Just a stunning report,
built an illusion. This is the real world. I can't
believe we've gone through so many years where we were
being lied to, gas lighted, snowed. You you pick your term,
not only by politicians but by most of the media.
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And then when Trump finally issues the executive order to
go after criminal illegal aliens. Look what they find, literally
in a matter of minutes. I mean he took over,
He took over on on Monday, and here it is
on Thursday, and there's already a report filed with Bill
Mlusian going on a ride along with Ice officers in Boston,
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which is one of those idiotic sanctuary cities. And I mean,
I'll just go through the people that they got. They
got an MS thirteen member from l Salvador aggravated murder,
a Haitian gang member with seventeen convictions, a Brazilian armed robbery,
another guy accused of rape locally, another guy who came
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off a plane. Biden flew this guy in and he
committed a sexual assault. Another one raping a woman by
putting a gun in her mouth. This is what was
allowed in the country. I think one of these guys
actually made it through several times. It's astonishing that we
had a policy by the president, by Joe Biden and
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Kamala Harris that encouraged these people to come and rape
and murder are citizens. How much do you have to
hate people to bring in rapists and murderers pay for
their flights I know this sounds like hyperbolic, Like I know,
I'm telling you the truth. We paid for a guy
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to fly here on our tax dollar. He lands and
he sexually assaults a woman. My brain is breaking. I
can't even comprehend that somebody would do that. Why would
somebody create a program they knew that a lot of
criminals would jump on.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Here's a little back and forth between Bill Mlusian and
the Fox News host this morning. First one is Dana Perino.
How soon will they actually be leaving the country? Does
that take a long time? It depends what country they're from.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
If they're from cooperable countries like l Salvador, Guatemala, countries
like that, it can be quick. It can be within
days or weeks. If it's countries that are harder to deport,
countries that don't cooperate with the US as much, it
can go into a process of months. But the Trump
administration is changing policies with something called expedited removal.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
The bottom line is people.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
At home don't need to understand all the policies. The
Trump administration is just going to work as fast as
they can to get all the people you just saw
on camera there out of the country as fast as possible.
They're also going to use their State Department, now led
by Marco Rubio, to put pressure on countries that don't
cooperate with the US as much. When it comes to
those deportations.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
Well, we should cut off any money that we're sending them.
We send money probably to every country in the world,
we do business with, every country in the world. Everything
should be cut off completely until they accept all these criminals,
let them rape and murder their own citizens if they
don't have a prison bed for these bastards. Honestly, I can't.
I mean, I mean, obviously Biden was in a coma,
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but Kamala Harris wasn't. I see these I see just
how much support she has in California. It makes me sick.
She was in charge of the border, charge of a
policy that flew murderers and rapists in to murder and
rape the women here in America. That's the truth, That's
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what was going on. But there are people who want
her as governor. Here's another follow up. Bill Hammer, another
Fox host, was talking to Illusion about the sexually violent aliens.
It seems a lot of these crimes are associated with
sex crimes. I'm just looking at the list a bit
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earlier today. I don't know if that generally is the
case or not. And second, if Boston's a sanctuary city,
how are they allowed to do this? Because we told
there would be resistance.
Speaker 4 (22:40):
Boston doesn't have to cooperate with ICE, but there's nothing
they can do to stop ICE from coming into their
city and enforcing the law. And that's exactly what happened yesterday.
And that's the point ICE makes to us is, Look,
they don't have to cooperate with our detainer requests. They
don't have to tell our officers when they're releasing somebody
from jail.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
But we're going to do our job.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
We have our intel guys out in the field, we
have people with eyes all over the place, and we're
going to snatch those guys so they can make ICE's
job more difficult, longer, and more dangerous. But it's not
going to stop ICE from doing the job.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
The bottom line, as I says, it's safer for everybody
involved if locals would just hand these guys over in
jail once they're arrested.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
But they don't.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
They let him out onto the streets. They don't tell
Ice about it. So ICE has to spend a lot
of resources gathering intel, finding these guys, and then going
out into the community to do arrest, which could be dangerous.
You saw that combative Haitian man, and then you saw
in the case of that one MS thirteen member, his
friend got snabbed. They weren't even looking for him.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
They were looking for.
Speaker 4 (23:37):
The MS thirteen guy. They picked him up because a
sanctuary jurisdiction released the MS thirteen guy. Ice found him
and then found the guy who was in the apartment
with They found out he was an illegal alien as well,
so now he's going to be deported too.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And this supplies here to Los Angeles. We have the
same sanctuary policy. Where is Jim McDonald, the police chief,
and Robert Luna, the La County Sheriff, standing up and saying,
you know, we're going to help ICE so they don't
have to spend as much time and manpower and money
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going after rapists and murderers. Will help out to protect
our citizens who pay our salaries, who fund our programs.
Why won't Luna and McDonald do that? Why doesn't Karen
bass Well, I guess expecting her to protect life and
liberty is kind of silly. She's fresh off abandoning Pacific
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Palisades because Ghana seemed to be a nicer place to stay.
But seriously, why wouldn't she say, I don't want rapists
and murderers in the city, in County of Los Angeles.
We're going to help so that our voters, our people
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aren't raped and murdered. Why wouldn't you volun and teer
to help out. I mean, I don't understand, and nobody
asks them, Nobody asks us to say, well, why wouldn't
you Why wouldn't you do this? Isn't this the decent thing?
Isn't that why you're in business to protect the safety
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and lives, the health and lives of people who live
in Los Angeles. I'm just I'm just overwhelmed. In just
a three minute story, so much evil was scooped up,
and you realize how complicit our government, the people we pay.
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We pay for Joe Biden's corpse, we pay for Camel
Harris's empty head, We pay them. They make hundreds of
thousands of dollars and then whatever Biden's family could steal
for them, and he brings us. He flies in people
who commit sexual assaults and murders. Some of these. There
was one guy who's at the border three times and
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they just kept sending him back and he kept coming
over and hoh, he'd come over. They do the catch
and release nonsense. They did want asylum, the guys who
are committed. Asylum was supposed to be for people who
were suffering from systemic violence and oppression in their home countries.
We have the guys who were committing the violence and oppression.
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They were the ones who were getting waved in. It's
like we spend a billion dollars on homeless people and
they start the fires and we shortchanged the firefighters who
put them out. Everything is wrong. It's not just backwards
and upside down. It's just morally wrong. It's terribly dangerous.
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Why do we have Karen Bass, Kevin Newsom, this whole
crowd here. They are dangerous to us. This is proof. Hey, y,
all right, more coming up.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
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Speaker 1 (26:58):
If you want to see me get interviewed by my wife,
of course you want to see that. Deborah Cobelt Live
is her video podcast, and we recorded the video yesterday
talking about the fires and Trump returning. So that's Deborah
Covelt live on the iHeartRadio app as well and YouTube.
YouTube is actually where you can watch watch the video. Uh,
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we we have an animal story here, just make it
a good one. Yeah. Coming up after Deborah's news, the
La Times has an update on that Palisades reservoir story.
Doesn't get better. But first, it's an elephant story.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
I like elephants.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
Five elderly elephants had sued in Colorado court. They wanted
to leave the zoo.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
They sued.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
The suit was in yes, the elephant Missy, Kimba, Lucky, Lulu,
and Jambo. They wanted to be free from the Cheyenne
Mountain Zoo. They wanted to go to an elephant sanctuary.
Speaker 3 (28:05):
I don't blame them.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
It's a legal process. You've heard this term habeas corpus.
It allows individuals in custody to challenge their detention or
incarceration in court. Well, we have a result. Went all
the way to the Colorado Supreme Court and they ruled
six to nothing, saying that from a legal standpoint, the
elephants cannot win the case because an elephant is not
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a person.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
Okay, So can't somebody that runs the sanctuary, Why can't they?
Why can't they challenge this? And they are the ones
this sue on behalf of the elephants. I mean, it
is silly that the elephants are suing.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
It's funny. You're actually for the elephants sewing to be
released from the zoo. Absolutely, are you surprised, John, if.
Speaker 3 (28:54):
There's room for them at a sanctuary?
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Well, that's why I brought it up. I mean, I
knew what I was going to get, but just what
he actually says it out loud, It's it's really funny.
It says, because an elephant is not a person, the
elephants do not have standing to bring a habeas corpus
claim under Colorado law. I guess you'd have to rewrite
the law and say that elephants do have that right
to sue.
Speaker 3 (29:16):
Or you have somebody sue on behalf of the elephant,
which should have happened in the first place.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
The Non Human Rights Project, that's an action, that's an
animal advocacy group. They'd submitted affidavits from seven animal biologists.
They said that elephants share numerous cognitive capacities with humans,
self awareness, empathy, the ability to learn and communicate. I
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had some interaction with elephants when we went on our safari.
Have you done a safarian?
Speaker 2 (29:46):
I have?
Speaker 1 (29:48):
I really want to go because you can communicate with
elephants like a human can. And I remember stopping and
there was a whole parade of elephants walking just a
few feet away from us in a line. And one
of the elephants looked at me and he nodded his
head the way if you pass somebody in the street
and you nod your heads like hi, how you doing.
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That's what the elephant did. He was walking with his
elephant kids behind him and his wife, and he looks
at me and he nodded the way you were not
in a friendly manner, and he went in the hallway, righty,
how you doing? And our eyes met for a moment.
We had a connection. I know it was a male elephant,
do you know, Well, I'm not that kind of guy.
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So the executive director for the Non Human Rights Project,
you know what his name is, Christopher Barry. Christopher Barry
is nuts. He described the Supreme Court's judgment as alarming,
saying it diminished the Court's power to protect the right
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to liberty when it's violated. So this crowd wants to
consider animals as people. This has happened a number of times.
They keep trying to sue for the elephants and they
keep losing.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
Well, I think that that is a shame because if
they are suing on behalf of the elephants, I don't
understand why they would lose. I think it's silly.
Speaker 7 (31:22):
You can't say that.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Yeah, but it's the elephants actually suing. They want the freedom, So.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Forget that and just have the humans say we want
the elephants to have freedom, and this is why.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
Well, I don't know. They've tried everything, and the elephants,
now I will say that list of criteria, their cognitive ability, Yeah,
I think they've got they got more going on than
Biden did.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Okay, so then it's really unfair. They don't want to
be someplace. If they don't want people staring at them
at a zoo and they want to be free and
left alone, then they should be left alone.
Speaker 1 (31:56):
Biden should be in captivity. These elephants. We could run
the country better self awareness, empathy, and that's pretty suffitious.
So there's a lot of people who don't have self
awareness and empathy.
Speaker 3 (32:07):
Oh absolutely, you know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Kind of halfway there. Deborah Mark is live in the
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