December 19, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (12/19) - ABC News crime and terrorism analyst Brad Garrett joins the show to talk about the suspect in the Brown/MIT shootings being found dead in a storage facility in New Hampshire. More on the Brown/MIT shooter being found dead. More on Nick Reiner and his mental state. More on the Santa Ynez Reservoir being drained again.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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All right, let's get right to this last night's conclusion
to a major story that gripped the Northeast for most
of the week. You know about the Brown University shooting,
and that was two students getting killed and another nine
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were shot as well. And then shortly a couple of
days later, on Monday, a professor at MIT, Nuno Lorero,
a physicist and fusion scientist, He was shot near his
apartment in Boston and later died in the hospital. And
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quickly the authorities thought that these two crimes might be connected.
And last night Claudio Nevez Valente shot himself to death
in a storage unit in New Hampshire. And he was responsible,
according to the cops, for both shootings, the one at
Brown and of the MIT professor uh and and had
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connections both to the university and to the professor. Let's
get Brad Garrett on ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Brad, how are you, I'm good?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
How did authorities connect the two? What were the what
was the clues the evidence that allowed them to eventually
track him down to the storage unit and connect them
to both crimes.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
All right, it's actually unclear at this point what connects
the two crimes other than I mean, I haven't heard anything.
For example, does do the ballistics like the showcase scenes
found in at MIT at the professor's apartment building? Do
they match the showcase scenes from Brown? That's the logical
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guests on my part. I still don't know. But there
is a connection apparently between the shooter and the professor.
They're both Portuguese, and from ninety five to two thousand
they were actually in college together in Portugal. So now,
why twenty five years later you shoot somebody you were
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in school with. Obviously we don't know the answer to
that yet. So that's one aspect. But it's an interesting story, John,
about how the police seemed to be sort of stuck
a few days ago. Where you have a guy who
apparently is in the engineering building. I'm going to assume
he's a student age. He's in the bathroom, and there's
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a guy in the bathroom with him that doesn't look right.
You know, he's older, wi is he here? He's not
dressed approporately, it's cold, and he instinctively just followed him
and followed him back to a Nissan with Florida tags.
Now why he did this, I don't know. He originally
posted it on a and eventually the police found out
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about it, found him, and then they were able to
apparently take the Florida tag. I think they got that
off the license plate reader in Providence. They run it,
it goes to a rental place in Boston. They go there,
there's a billance camera obviously have pictures of him, you know,
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no hat, no mask, no nothing, and he apparently rented
the car in his true name and so you have that.
So then they were kind of like off to the
races as to who he might really be, I believe,
and they're not clear on this, but this is what
I think happened. That there was a rental contract in
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the rented car for a storage facility in New Hampshire,
and that's where they were racing to last night, and
by the time they got there, they found him deceased
in or near his storage locker.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So so the the person that they stepped the apparently
they stapped a photo of the person who went to
the authorities and and said I've seen this guy.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And if there's something to that. Yeah, there's something to that,
E'll think. Yeah, it's still they have not been specific
about how they actually id'd the guy who did you
know was in the bathroom, followed the guy, et cetera.
They obviously know who he is. He's interviewed him and
interviewed him, and in fact, in one of the clips,
I think he's actually in the picture, so so you know,
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halts off to him.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I saw this story and it's out of the post,
so you never know the New York Post. But there
was a homeless guy who who tipped off the police,
and he lived in the basement of that physics building,
and he started tracking the killer and as the killer
or was trying to dodge him on the local streets.
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So is that the same person who was photographed two different.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Different person There is a mention. There is a mention
of a custodian that also didn't think there was something
right about this guy. Uh, I've not seen anything about
his heat the custodian's movements, but I think some version
of what you just said is correct. So it's interesting
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that this guy basically had two people attempting to keep
track of him because he just didn't sit in all right, this.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Leads me, whether it's one or two or three, why
wasn't there security patrolling who noticed this guy, because supposedly
he was casing the place for a little while, and
there were no cameras in the building by that entrance.
So what why why is security so shody at a
place like Brown.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, I don't know. They have I will tell you
twelve hundred cameras throughout Brown. You know, it's like most
college campuses, a lot of buildings, et cetera. That was
one of my first questions when this happened, of what's
the interior cameras?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Tell you?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
If you don't have them in the classroom, do you
at least have them in the hallways. I've seen nothing
in that regard, So it's a good question as to
why they are. You know, I understand you're not gonna
put in the bathroom obviously, and maybe you wouldn't put
them in the classroom, but clearly you could put them
in the hallway because it's, you know, a thruway that
everyone has to walk through at some point. So I
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don't know, it's a good question, and obviously Brown's going
to have to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just if all these random people were so unnerved
to some extent by the presence of this guy. You know,
trained security would have would have flagged him immediately and
started questioning.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But I mean, you have to be reasonable here, John,
about college campuses. I mean, let's think about you know,
UCLA down the street from you. I mean, all these buildings.
You can't have somebody private security and every one of
those buildings. I mean, if you have a threat, if
you have an issue, you're going to put people in there.
But I don't think it's reasonable. Is there some fault
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gone on here? Security lines? Perhaps, but I don't know
that that would be one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The the thing you mentioned at the beginning. He's forty
eight years old, former Brown graduate student, and then you
know he was a classmate back in the nineties with
the MIT professor. I just wonder if he had specific
grievances or if this was just an overriding mental illness
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that built up and he just started started rand really
lashing out at places or people in his past.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
In one of the big and it was a big
concern of mine when I first heard that there was
a link between the two, is does he have a
kill Excuse me? Does he have a kill list, So
that means that he's been to two locations. Is there
a third location? And I don't, you know, we'll see
if there's anything that he left that would suggests that.
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I'm pretty convinced that he went back to that story.
So just because he knew he was done, that they
were on his trail. Uh and uh, you know he
wanted in instead of dealing with them.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All right, Brad, thanks for coming on again, busy week.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You're welcome anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, Brad Garren, ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst
on the on the suspect finally, well, I mean he's dead.
He shot himself, the one who killed the MIT professor
and shot the two students to death at Brown and
injured nine others. His named Claudio Nevez Valente. We've got more.
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We'll down follow the story of the homeless guy who
apparently was living in the basement. That's another thing that
hit me about possible security issues at Brown. How do
you have a homeless guy living in your basement at
the physics building in addition to this creep who is
casing the place to do a mass shooting, I mean,
and a shortage of cameras at that building. There was
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twelve hundred cameras on the campus, but very few with
that building, which was an old one. We'll talk more
about this coming up.
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Here is more on the Brown University shooter. First thing,
because I don't want to forget this. Some of the
some of the witnesses claim that the shooter was making
barking noises just before he opened fire. Guy's name is
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Claudia Claudio. The lent forty eight. This is old for
a mass shooter and serial killer. He was barking when
he walked into the Brown Lecture hall. Forty rounds he
fired hit eleven people, nine wounded, two killed. This is
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a parent of the Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Naranja,
because he said, there's some witnesses who said that he
said nothing. There are some that say he made a
barking noise. Don't ask me. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's no other spoken words beyond that that we're aware.
So he came into the classroom, started barking and then
started firing forty rounds. Now, he came to Brown in
the early two thousands as a PhD student in physics
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and went to class in Portugal with the MIT professor
that he killed. The case was cracked. Now, some of
these details are murky and could change. I can't tell
you when these stories happen. How much bad information comes
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out at the beginning, much of it wrong or distorted
or exaggerated, and much of it published. And so in
the early days of a story, I never I can't
tell what's true. I mean nobody can. But there was
a guy. He has been described as a student. He's
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also been described as a homeless person. It could be both.
The guy was living in the basement of the physics
building where the shooting happened, and his name is John
or he's identified as John, and.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
He went on Reddit.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The police had produced a photograph which showed John standing
near the gunman, and they put it out saying, hey,
who is this guy?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Is this you? Do you know anything? Do you remember anything?
So he went on Reddit and he said that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He started following the guy. He wrote, I'm being dead serious.
The police need to look into a grain Nissan with
fort Florida plates, possibly rental. I know because he used
his keyfob to open the car, approached it, and something
prompted him to back away. All right, this is John
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possible homeless guy talking about the encounter with the killer. Now,
when he the killer Claudia backed away, he relocked the car.
I found that odd. So when he circled the block,
I approached the car and I saw Florida plates. Now,
he said he counted Valente also in the bathroom of
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the engineering building just hours before the attack, and said
that Valenti's clothing was inappropriate, inadequate for the weather. This
guy's homeless. He's got a really good vocabulary. Yeah, he
may be a graduate student too. You know, there are
a lot of geniuses at universities that have a tremendous
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skill in a particular discipline, and our Batty is all
hell and kind of crazy and really smart but not
really employable, and maybe they're homeless or maybe they're going
to solve some complex physics problem. At the same time,
sources told Fox News that John had been living in
the basement of the engineering building. Now again I bring
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up security. You've got one guy Valente who was casing
this place going back to November twenty eighth, So he
had almost three weeks wandering around the grounds. And then
you have another guy living in the basement.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So he starts.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He seves Valente outside the building and decides to follow him.
John says, he yelled out, your car is back there.
Why are you circling the block? This guy John is smart,
and the suspect said, I don't know you from nobody,
and then he said, why are you harassing me?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
This is Valente. So John told all this, told this
story on.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Readdit and then the cops started looking at other video footage,
and twenty four hours later they found him in New
Hampshire in a storage unit and he had shot himself
to death.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Isn't that wild? This other story the set of the post.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That Claudio Deves Valente staked out Brown for several weeks,
a school custodian another guy spotted a suspicious person lurking
around the engineering building way back on November twenty eighth,
and then again on December first, and they looked at
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old video and found Yeah, he was wandering around. And
again it's a forty seven year old man, apparently not
even dressed for the weather. He's wandering around off and
on for three weeks. No, there's a let me tell you,
you know what the tuition is a brown ninety thousand
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dollars a year for a student. Do you know what
their endowment is? Nine billion dollars. So he was wandering around.
There's casing the place. Obviously, going back to the homeless
guy he called. He called the way he chased the
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killer a strange cat and mouse game as he followed
him around the neighborhood. And eventually he tells the police,
and it was it was pretty easy for them to
follow up and solve this thing. All right, we come back.
We've got more on the Reiner murder. Murder of Rob
(17:01):
and Michelle Reiner by their son Nick. He may have
had schizophrenia, which you know, as the week went by,
I was thinking more and more that it was probably
going to end up with that being the cause of
his insanity. We'll talk about that coming up, because there
is new information.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
We are gonna have Steve Hilton come on next hour
at two point thirty. Steve is running for Governor's Republican
former advisor to the British Prime Minister David Cameron years ago,
former Fox News host, and he is an entrepreneur, involved
in many businesses and really really smart and politically aware,
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and life would be much better better if a guy
like Steve Hilton was our governor for the last eight
years instead of that little that he actually acts like
a teenager newsom. I mean, he's he's not an adult.
He's not a responsible adult. Talk to Hilton coming up.
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I dontieve he's coming on after two thirty today. On
the Nick Reiner case who killed Rob and Michelle Reiner,
TMZ is now reporting, and everybody's re reporting the TMZ
story that he had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was
taking prescription medications and possibly other drugs, and that made
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him radic and dangerous. And this is the most impossible situation.
And I've spoken about this a few times this week,
most impossible situation for a parent with the way our
laws are structured. You got a third two year old guy.
And I figured it was something like this because I
noticed in all the stories that came out there was
no mention that he had ever held a job.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
The guy didn't work. He did the.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Movie with his dad, said my auto biographical movie, and
if you remember being Charlie about about the dad being
famous and a son being a drug addict, and he
wrote at least or co wrote the script, but that's
the only credit if you look up on IMDb. He
didn't do anything else. And then he had an internship
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on a sitcom for a while. His dad arranged that job,
but according to the other people on the set, he
hardly did any work. He just kind of hung out
and goofed around and just talked. And I have not
seen a reference that he was employed doing anything. Now
that's a big red flag right there. He's unemployable. He's
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living in his parents guest house. He's in rehab eighteen times.
And I'm thinking, you know, it's not just he's taken drugs.
He's taking drugs because he's trying to calm the demons
screaming in his head. And literally he must have had
demons screaming in his head because according to TMZ, he's
been under the care of a psychiatrist for mental illness.
And here is the really dangerous part. The doctors were
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adjusting his medications because they weren't working, and they were
trying to stabilize his behavior. But frequently there is a
lot of like witchcraft and hocus focus when it comes
to giving out psychiatric medications. You know, there's a protocol,
there's a list of common medications that you give to
somebody with schizophrenia or other related disorders, but there's a
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lot of play there. Which ones do you give, how
many do you give? What's the dosage? You know, you
start out with a conservative dose and you see if
symptoms get better, and then you take it from there,
and then often it doesn't work, and you got to
try another and then another, and when it doesn't work,
sometimes it doesn't work and fix the symptoms. Sometimes it
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doesn't work and it exacerbates the symptoms. And there is
no effective way to put these people in a mental institution.
It's extremely difficult there's one major tool tool called a
fifty one to fifty hold. That's police vernacular, and it's
seventy two hours and somebody has to be in the
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midst of a fit when the police come over. You know,
he's got to be running around with the knife. He's
got to be in the middle of trashing all the furniture.
You got to catch him. You can't just say, you know,
this is what he was doing two hours ago. You
got to call him right away. And if he seems
like he's an immediate threat to himself for other people,
then the cops can take him away. They put him
in a mental health facility. Three days later, he's out
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angrier than ever. And a lot of people are afraid
to call the police and put him away for even
three days because they know you put him away on
a Monday. By Thursday, he's back at your front door.
And then what now He's gunning for revenge. And there's
so many families who go through this, and there's nothing in.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The law of help help you.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
In extreme cases, they go on for a long time.
You can get a conservator, but that is hard.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
The whole Britney Spears case, it took Britney Spears parents
years to finally become the conservator. And then usually the
mental little person has a list of counter charges which
makes it impossible for a judge to figure out, and
often they get free, which she got free of her conservatorship.
(22:15):
But I just read the other day that you know,
she's got off the deep end again because mental illness,
some of it's not fixable, and for some reason, you know,
the psychiatric community just wants to keep writing prescriptions. And
I'm convinced a lot of those guys get kickbacks. I
don't know what kind of lobbying group they have, how
much money they brought bribe legislators. But I find it
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curious that we've got one hundred and twenty legislators and
a governor. And I bet you Rob Reiner donated a
lot of money to these guys and their causes over
the years, and you think they would be so shook
up by what happened, they'd be holding press conferences saying
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we knew Roer, he was a friend of ours. This
is terribly tragic. We got to fix the laws. We
got to give people like Robin Michelle Reiner some kind
of tool to get a thirty two year old violence
schizophrenic patient out of the home and into some kind
of permanent or semi permanent mental health treatment, and you
just can't do it, and they're not employable, and you're alone,
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and every night you wonder, oh is it going to
come in here and kill me today? Which is what
Reiner said at the Christmas party, is that he hated
to admit it, but I'm afraid my son is going
to harm me.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That was like his.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Last words at the Christmas party. Because they had a
memorial service for Reiner, and somebody at the memorial service,
supposedly a celebrity, got up and told that to the crowd.
People hurt it and got really upset because everybody has
felt so helpless and the people, the parents of guys
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like him. It's almost always guys, not exclusively, but often
men seem to get hit by schizophrenia way more than women.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's why you look out on the street. What do
you have out there?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Wet schizophrenics whacked out on drugs, trying to quiet the demon,
and they've got We're of absolutely there's no help. Karen
Bass and Kavin Newsom's policy is to steal billions of
dollars and let these people eventually die in the streets.
And here in Los Angeles, twosand two thousand of these
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people die every year in our streets.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Just in Los Angeles, and nobody wants to do anything.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
How many years do we have one hundred thousand people
a year, a year die from fentinel poisoning?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
One hundred thousand, Right, people.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Are old enough to remember the Vietnam War that tore
the nation depart for ten years. It was over the
deaths of young men. I think it was sixty eight
thousand dead in the Vietnam War. Horrible. But we're losing
one hundred thousand every year defentidem And then Trump closes
the border and the the sentinyl flow has dropped dramatically
down by fifty percent at the border. And then he's
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blown up the boats on the water's outside of Venezuela.
And he's the bad guy. I don't understand. There are
things that our society as a whole never responds to.
They like, never respond to child molestation when they see
it or they're aware of it, you know at a
school or a camp or the boy scouts the church. Right,
(25:28):
the lestation's going on everybody knows. Nobody says anything. And
with the drugs coming over the border or coming off
on boats, the fentanyl, the meth, the cocaine, hundreds of
thousands of dead, nobody wants to do anything about it,
and somebody does. It's like, oh my god, how could
that is weird? That is inexplicable to me. And we
don't have laws that give parents, adult parents of adult children,
(25:53):
any leverage, any power to put these people away so
they get real help and they can't run away, and
to keep themselves alive and to keep their their son alive.
Could what are what are people like Robin Michelle Riner
are supposed to do? When Nick Ryder is going crazy,
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destroying all the furniture, menacing, threatening, screaming, carrying on. They
took him to the Christmas party because they were afraid
what would happen if they left him alone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You know, maybe he'd burn down the house. What are
you supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
You think maybe he'll burn down the house, maybe he'll
commit suicide. All right, we'll bring me to the party.
Makes a big ruckus. You gotta go home. It gets
pissed off, sle's their throats. There's absolutely nothing that that
family could have done. I'm just flabbergasted. And you don't
see anybody in political office, or in the medical or
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pharmaceutical industry anything stand up and say you know what.
The writers are not the only ones going through this.
This is an abomination that we don't have a system
to handle this, and it is why why are people
so afraid to demand this. There's a lot of families
that need this obviously. Again, look in the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Streets in La County. We got seventy thousand people out there.
More coming up.
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John Cobelt Show after two o'clock. We told you yesterday
the Senate in his reservoir was the empty reservoir and
the palisades. They drained one hundred and seventeen million gallons
out of it before the fire, so there was no
water to put the fire out. They did it because
the cover was torn. They're doing it again. They're draining
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the reservoir again because the cover is damaged again, and
it's going to be shut down for at least nine months.
We're going to talk to say Ed Kazshawani. He is
an attorney lives in the Palisades, lost his home and
has been upfront, going to meetings and fighting this the
the the idiots who run this city in County. To
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give you an idea of this story, we're going to
play you this report from ABC seven reporter Carlos Granda
Lake cut number three because the local residents are really upset.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It was the center of controversy almost a year ago.
The Sanity Andez Reservoir in Pacific Palisades was offline when
the fire started. It is a critical reservoir for fire
fighting efforts, and.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
We don't know what's going to happen in the next month,
next week as far as the weather.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Frustration level, like my constituents in the Palisades is absolutely
through the roof over this.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
The reservoir has a capacity of one hundred and seventeen
million gallons of water, but it was closed for repairs
during the Palisades fire. A report, however, found that even
if the reservoir was full at the time of the fires,
the system would have been quickly overwhelmed. Water is now
back in the reservoir, but officials say they found tears
in the cover that need to be fixed. This notice
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of The project filed by the LEDWP says the reservoir
has to be drained and taken out of service to
replace the damage floating cus.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
These permeable covers do not seem to be able to
hold up to wear and tearror, and so the long
term solution here is going to be to put a concrete.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Cover on it. Park says that, however, is years away
for now.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
The DWP's application says there would be an alternative water
supply to the Palisades in place before the reservoir is
taken off line. That would be a six mile high
pressure hose from a tank into Panga. Some residents, however,
we spoke with, say it's all a bit disturbing.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And now the delay is just kind of really sad
and set of circumstances.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's almost fire season.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We don't know Santa and I is going to kick
in in the coming months.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
We need something, we need, we need what.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
The DWP senters a statement which says in part that
it is working closely with city planners, including the Los
Angeles Fire Department, to ensure redundant water supplies are available
throughout their replacement project, proactively replacing the covers an important
entrant step to avoid unexpected tears to the repaired cover
that could force their reservoir out of service.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
For now, the reservoir is online.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The DWP estimates the repair could take nine months.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's Carlos Gronda from ABC News again. Jenny's Connuniya has
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars salary, runs the DWP.
This comes out of her empty brain. We're going to
have Sayai Kashani on the attorney right after Brigida's news.
He had the same questions that I had in my head.
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They're installing a backup water supply it if it didn't
make a difference in fighting the fire having the reservoir drained,
why are they coming up with a backup And they
claim they need this to protect the drinking water. It
wasn't built for drinking water. It was built for firefighting.
And obviously the Palisades went without the drinking water reservoir
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supply for all twenty twenty four before the fire hit
because that thing was drained in early twenty twenty four.
None of this makes sense. Everything they say seems to
be a lie on top of a lie on top
of a lie on top of a bed of absolute idiocy.
We'll talk with Saya Kashani next. Hey, you've been listening
to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear
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All right, let's get right to this last night's conclusion
to a major story that gripped the Northeast for most
of the week. You know about the Brown University shooting,
and that was two students getting killed and another nine
(00:23):
were shot as well. And then shortly a couple of
days later, on Monday, a professor at MIT, Nuno Lorero,
a physicist and fusion scientist, He was shot near his
apartment in Boston and later died in the hospital. And
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quickly the authorities thought that these two crimes might be connected.
And last night Claudio Nevez Valente shot himself to death
in a storage unit in New Hampshire. And he was responsible,
according to the cops, for both shootings, the one at
Brown and of the MIT professor uh and and had
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connections both to the university and to the professor. Let's
get Brad Garrett on ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Brad, how are you, I'm good?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (01:20):
How did authorities connect the two? What were the what
was the clues the evidence that allowed them to eventually
track him down to the storage unit and connect them
to both crimes.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
All right, it's actually unclear at this point what connects
the two crimes other than I mean, I haven't heard anything.
For example, does do the ballistics like the showcase scenes
found in at MIT at the professor's apartment building? Do
they match the showcase scenes from Brown? That's the logical
(01:53):
guests on my part. I still don't know. But there
is a connection apparently between the shooter and the professor.
They're both Portuguese, and from ninety five to two thousand
they were actually in college together in Portugal. So now,
why twenty five years later you shoot somebody you were
(02:17):
in school with. Obviously we don't know the answer to
that yet. So that's one aspect. But it's an interesting story, John,
about how the police seemed to be sort of stuck
a few days ago. Where you have a guy who
apparently is in the engineering building. I'm going to assume
he's a student age. He's in the bathroom, and there's
(02:40):
a guy in the bathroom with him that doesn't look right.
You know, he's older, wi is he here? He's not
dressed approporately, it's cold, and he instinctively just followed him
and followed him back to a Nissan with Florida tags.
Now why he did this, I don't know. He originally
posted it on a and eventually the police found out
(03:02):
about it, found him, and then they were able to
apparently take the Florida tag. I think they got that
off the license plate reader in Providence. They run it,
it goes to a rental place in Boston. They go there,
there's a billance camera obviously have pictures of him, you know,
(03:24):
no hat, no mask, no nothing, and he apparently rented
the car in his true name and so you have that.
So then they were kind of like off to the
races as to who he might really be, I believe,
and they're not clear on this, but this is what
I think happened. That there was a rental contract in
(03:47):
the rented car for a storage facility in New Hampshire,
and that's where they were racing to last night, and
by the time they got there, they found him deceased
in or near his storage locker.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
So so the the person that they stepped the apparently
they stapped a photo of the person who went to
the authorities and and said I've seen this guy.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And if there's something to that. Yeah, there's something to that,
E'll think. Yeah, it's still they have not been specific
about how they actually id'd the guy who did you
know was in the bathroom, followed the guy, et cetera.
They obviously know who he is. He's interviewed him and
interviewed him, and in fact, in one of the clips,
I think he's actually in the picture, so so you know,
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halts off to him.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I saw this story and it's out of the post,
so you never know the New York Post. But there
was a homeless guy who who tipped off the police,
and he lived in the basement of that physics building,
and he started tracking the killer and as the killer
or was trying to dodge him on the local streets.
(05:04):
So is that the same person who was photographed two different.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Different person There is a mention. There is a mention
of a custodian that also didn't think there was something
right about this guy. Uh, I've not seen anything about
his heat the custodian's movements, but I think some version
of what you just said is correct. So it's interesting
(05:31):
that this guy basically had two people attempting to keep
track of him because he just didn't sit in all right, this.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Leads me, whether it's one or two or three, why
wasn't there security patrolling who noticed this guy, because supposedly
he was casing the place for a little while, and
there were no cameras in the building by that entrance.
So what why why is security so shody at a
place like Brown.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Well, I don't know. They have I will tell you
twelve hundred cameras throughout Brown. You know, it's like most
college campuses, a lot of buildings, et cetera. That was
one of my first questions when this happened, of what's
the interior cameras?
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Tell you?
Speaker 3 (06:19):
If you don't have them in the classroom, do you
at least have them in the hallways. I've seen nothing
in that regard, So it's a good question as to
why they are. You know, I understand you're not gonna
put in the bathroom obviously, and maybe you wouldn't put
them in the classroom, but clearly you could put them
in the hallway because it's, you know, a thruway that
everyone has to walk through at some point. So I
(06:41):
don't know, it's a good question, and obviously Brown's going
to have to Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
I just if all these random people were so unnerved
to some extent by the presence of this guy. You know,
trained security would have would have flagged him immediately and
started questioning.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
But I mean, you have to be reasonable here, John,
about college campuses. I mean, let's think about you know,
UCLA down the street from you. I mean, all these buildings.
You can't have somebody private security and every one of
those buildings. I mean, if you have a threat, if
you have an issue, you're going to put people in there.
But I don't think it's reasonable. Is there some fault
(07:20):
gone on here? Security lines? Perhaps, but I don't know
that that would be one of them.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
The the thing you mentioned at the beginning. He's forty
eight years old, former Brown graduate student, and then you
know he was a classmate back in the nineties with
the MIT professor. I just wonder if he had specific
grievances or if this was just an overriding mental illness
(07:48):
that built up and he just started started rand really
lashing out at places or people in his past.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
In one of the big and it was a big
concern of mine when I first heard that there was
a link between the two, is does he have a
kill Excuse me? Does he have a kill list, So
that means that he's been to two locations. Is there
a third location? And I don't, you know, we'll see
if there's anything that he left that would suggests that.
(08:22):
I'm pretty convinced that he went back to that story.
So just because he knew he was done, that they
were on his trail. Uh and uh, you know he
wanted in instead of dealing with them.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All right, Brad, thanks for coming on again, busy week.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
You're welcome anytime.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
All right, Brad Garren, ABC News Crime and Terrorism analyst
on the on the suspect finally, well, I mean he's dead.
He shot himself, the one who killed the MIT professor
and shot the two students to death at Brown and
injured nine others. His named Claudio Nevez Valente. We've got more.
(09:03):
We'll down follow the story of the homeless guy who
apparently was living in the basement. That's another thing that
hit me about possible security issues at Brown. How do
you have a homeless guy living in your basement at
the physics building in addition to this creep who is
casing the place to do a mass shooting, I mean,
and a shortage of cameras at that building. There was
(09:24):
twelve hundred cameras on the campus, but very few with
that building, which was an old one. We'll talk more
about this coming up.
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Here is more on the Brown University shooter. First thing,
because I don't want to forget this. Some of the
some of the witnesses claim that the shooter was making
barking noises just before he opened fire. Guy's name is
(10:22):
Claudia Claudio. The lent forty eight. This is old for
a mass shooter and serial killer. He was barking when
he walked into the Brown Lecture hall. Forty rounds he
fired hit eleven people, nine wounded, two killed. This is
(10:42):
a parent of the Rhode Island Attorney General Peter Naranja,
because he said, there's some witnesses who said that he
said nothing. There are some that say he made a
barking noise. Don't ask me. I don't know why.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And that's it.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
There's no other spoken words beyond that that we're aware.
So he came into the classroom, started barking and then
started firing forty rounds. Now, he came to Brown in
the early two thousands as a PhD student in physics
(11:17):
and went to class in Portugal with the MIT professor
that he killed. The case was cracked. Now, some of
these details are murky and could change. I can't tell
you when these stories happen. How much bad information comes
(11:39):
out at the beginning, much of it wrong or distorted
or exaggerated, and much of it published. And so in
the early days of a story, I never I can't
tell what's true. I mean nobody can. But there was
a guy. He has been described as a student. He's
(12:02):
also been described as a homeless person. It could be both.
The guy was living in the basement of the physics
building where the shooting happened, and his name is John
or he's identified as John, and.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
He went on Reddit.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
The police had produced a photograph which showed John standing
near the gunman, and they put it out saying, hey,
who is this guy?
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Is this you? Do you know anything? Do you remember anything?
So he went on Reddit and he said that.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
He started following the guy. He wrote, I'm being dead serious.
The police need to look into a grain Nissan with
fort Florida plates, possibly rental. I know because he used
his keyfob to open the car, approached it, and something
prompted him to back away. All right, this is John
(13:08):
possible homeless guy talking about the encounter with the killer. Now,
when he the killer Claudia backed away, he relocked the car.
I found that odd. So when he circled the block,
I approached the car and I saw Florida plates. Now,
he said he counted Valente also in the bathroom of
(13:31):
the engineering building just hours before the attack, and said
that Valenti's clothing was inappropriate, inadequate for the weather. This
guy's homeless. He's got a really good vocabulary. Yeah, he
may be a graduate student too. You know, there are
a lot of geniuses at universities that have a tremendous
(13:55):
skill in a particular discipline, and our Batty is all
hell and kind of crazy and really smart but not
really employable, and maybe they're homeless or maybe they're going
to solve some complex physics problem. At the same time,
sources told Fox News that John had been living in
the basement of the engineering building. Now again I bring
(14:19):
up security. You've got one guy Valente who was casing
this place going back to November twenty eighth, So he
had almost three weeks wandering around the grounds. And then
you have another guy living in the basement.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
So he starts.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
He seves Valente outside the building and decides to follow him.
John says, he yelled out, your car is back there.
Why are you circling the block? This guy John is smart,
and the suspect said, I don't know you from nobody,
and then he said, why are you harassing me?
Speaker 1 (15:01):
This is Valente. So John told all this, told this
story on.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Readdit and then the cops started looking at other video footage,
and twenty four hours later they found him in New
Hampshire in a storage unit and he had shot himself
to death.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Isn't that wild? This other story the set of the post.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
That Claudio Deves Valente staked out Brown for several weeks,
a school custodian another guy spotted a suspicious person lurking
around the engineering building way back on November twenty eighth,
and then again on December first, and they looked at
(15:55):
old video and found Yeah, he was wandering around. And
again it's a forty seven year old man, apparently not
even dressed for the weather. He's wandering around off and
on for three weeks. No, there's a let me tell you,
you know what the tuition is a brown ninety thousand
(16:16):
dollars a year for a student. Do you know what
their endowment is? Nine billion dollars. So he was wandering around.
There's casing the place. Obviously, going back to the homeless
guy he called. He called the way he chased the
(16:40):
killer a strange cat and mouse game as he followed
him around the neighborhood. And eventually he tells the police,
and it was it was pretty easy for them to
follow up and solve this thing. All right, we come back.
We've got more on the Reiner murder. Murder of Rob
(17:01):
and Michelle Reiner by their son Nick. He may have
had schizophrenia, which you know, as the week went by,
I was thinking more and more that it was probably
going to end up with that being the cause of
his insanity. We'll talk about that coming up, because there
is new information.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
We are gonna have Steve Hilton come on next hour
at two point thirty. Steve is running for Governor's Republican
former advisor to the British Prime Minister David Cameron years ago,
former Fox News host, and he is an entrepreneur, involved
in many businesses and really really smart and politically aware,
(17:49):
and life would be much better better if a guy
like Steve Hilton was our governor for the last eight
years instead of that little that he actually acts like
a teenager newsom. I mean, he's he's not an adult.
He's not a responsible adult. Talk to Hilton coming up.
(18:11):
I dontieve he's coming on after two thirty today. On
the Nick Reiner case who killed Rob and Michelle Reiner,
TMZ is now reporting, and everybody's re reporting the TMZ
story that he had been diagnosed with schizophrenia. He was
taking prescription medications and possibly other drugs, and that made
(18:33):
him radic and dangerous. And this is the most impossible situation.
And I've spoken about this a few times this week,
most impossible situation for a parent with the way our
laws are structured. You got a third two year old guy.
And I figured it was something like this because I
noticed in all the stories that came out there was
no mention that he had ever held a job.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
The guy didn't work. He did the.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Movie with his dad, said my auto biographical movie, and
if you remember being Charlie about about the dad being
famous and a son being a drug addict, and he
wrote at least or co wrote the script, but that's
the only credit if you look up on IMDb. He
didn't do anything else. And then he had an internship
(19:19):
on a sitcom for a while. His dad arranged that job,
but according to the other people on the set, he
hardly did any work. He just kind of hung out
and goofed around and just talked. And I have not
seen a reference that he was employed doing anything. Now
that's a big red flag right there. He's unemployable. He's
(19:40):
living in his parents guest house. He's in rehab eighteen times.
And I'm thinking, you know, it's not just he's taken drugs.
He's taking drugs because he's trying to calm the demons
screaming in his head. And literally he must have had
demons screaming in his head because according to TMZ, he's
been under the care of a psychiatrist for mental illness.
And here is the really dangerous part. The doctors were
(20:04):
adjusting his medications because they weren't working, and they were
trying to stabilize his behavior. But frequently there is a
lot of like witchcraft and hocus focus when it comes
to giving out psychiatric medications. You know, there's a protocol,
there's a list of common medications that you give to
somebody with schizophrenia or other related disorders, but there's a
(20:28):
lot of play there. Which ones do you give, how
many do you give? What's the dosage? You know, you
start out with a conservative dose and you see if
symptoms get better, and then you take it from there,
and then often it doesn't work, and you got to
try another and then another, and when it doesn't work,
sometimes it doesn't work and fix the symptoms. Sometimes it
(20:50):
doesn't work and it exacerbates the symptoms. And there is
no effective way to put these people in a mental institution.
It's extremely difficult there's one major tool tool called a
fifty one to fifty hold. That's police vernacular, and it's
seventy two hours and somebody has to be in the
(21:11):
midst of a fit when the police come over. You know,
he's got to be running around with the knife. He's
got to be in the middle of trashing all the furniture.
You got to catch him. You can't just say, you know,
this is what he was doing two hours ago. You
got to call him right away. And if he seems
like he's an immediate threat to himself for other people,
then the cops can take him away. They put him
in a mental health facility. Three days later, he's out
(21:34):
angrier than ever. And a lot of people are afraid
to call the police and put him away for even
three days because they know you put him away on
a Monday. By Thursday, he's back at your front door.
And then what now He's gunning for revenge. And there's
so many families who go through this, and there's nothing in.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
The law of help help you.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
In extreme cases, they go on for a long time.
You can get a conservator, but that is hard.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
The whole Britney Spears case, it took Britney Spears parents
years to finally become the conservator. And then usually the
mental little person has a list of counter charges which
makes it impossible for a judge to figure out, and
often they get free, which she got free of her conservatorship.
(22:15):
But I just read the other day that you know,
she's got off the deep end again because mental illness,
some of it's not fixable, and for some reason, you know,
the psychiatric community just wants to keep writing prescriptions. And
I'm convinced a lot of those guys get kickbacks. I
don't know what kind of lobbying group they have, how
much money they brought bribe legislators. But I find it
(22:39):
curious that we've got one hundred and twenty legislators and
a governor. And I bet you Rob Reiner donated a
lot of money to these guys and their causes over
the years, and you think they would be so shook
up by what happened, they'd be holding press conferences saying
(22:59):
we knew Roer, he was a friend of ours. This
is terribly tragic. We got to fix the laws. We
got to give people like Robin Michelle Reiner some kind
of tool to get a thirty two year old violence
schizophrenic patient out of the home and into some kind
of permanent or semi permanent mental health treatment, and you
just can't do it, and they're not employable, and you're alone,
(23:23):
and every night you wonder, oh is it going to
come in here and kill me today? Which is what
Reiner said at the Christmas party, is that he hated
to admit it, but I'm afraid my son is going
to harm me.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
That was like his.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Last words at the Christmas party. Because they had a
memorial service for Reiner, and somebody at the memorial service,
supposedly a celebrity, got up and told that to the crowd.
People hurt it and got really upset because everybody has
felt so helpless and the people, the parents of guys
(23:57):
like him. It's almost always guys, not exclusively, but often
men seem to get hit by schizophrenia way more than women.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
That's why you look out on the street. What do
you have out there?
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Wet schizophrenics whacked out on drugs, trying to quiet the demon,
and they've got We're of absolutely there's no help. Karen
Bass and Kavin Newsom's policy is to steal billions of
dollars and let these people eventually die in the streets.
And here in Los Angeles, twosand two thousand of these
(24:26):
people die every year in our streets.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
Just in Los Angeles, and nobody wants to do anything.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
How many years do we have one hundred thousand people
a year, a year die from fentinel poisoning?
Speaker 1 (24:42):
One hundred thousand, Right, people.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Are old enough to remember the Vietnam War that tore
the nation depart for ten years. It was over the
deaths of young men. I think it was sixty eight
thousand dead in the Vietnam War. Horrible. But we're losing
one hundred thousand every year defentidem And then Trump closes
the border and the the sentinyl flow has dropped dramatically
down by fifty percent at the border. And then he's
(25:05):
blown up the boats on the water's outside of Venezuela.
And he's the bad guy. I don't understand. There are
things that our society as a whole never responds to.
They like, never respond to child molestation when they see
it or they're aware of it, you know at a
school or a camp or the boy scouts the church. Right,
(25:28):
the lestation's going on everybody knows. Nobody says anything. And
with the drugs coming over the border or coming off
on boats, the fentanyl, the meth, the cocaine, hundreds of
thousands of dead, nobody wants to do anything about it,
and somebody does. It's like, oh my god, how could
that is weird? That is inexplicable to me. And we
don't have laws that give parents, adult parents of adult children,
(25:53):
any leverage, any power to put these people away so
they get real help and they can't run away, and
to keep themselves alive and to keep their their son alive.
Could what are what are people like Robin Michelle Riner
are supposed to do? When Nick Ryder is going crazy,
(26:13):
destroying all the furniture, menacing, threatening, screaming, carrying on. They
took him to the Christmas party because they were afraid
what would happen if they left him alone.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
You know, maybe he'd burn down the house. What are
you supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
You think maybe he'll burn down the house, maybe he'll
commit suicide. All right, we'll bring me to the party.
Makes a big ruckus. You gotta go home. It gets
pissed off, sle's their throats. There's absolutely nothing that that
family could have done. I'm just flabbergasted. And you don't
see anybody in political office, or in the medical or
(26:46):
pharmaceutical industry anything stand up and say you know what.
The writers are not the only ones going through this.
This is an abomination that we don't have a system
to handle this, and it is why why are people
so afraid to demand this. There's a lot of families
that need this obviously. Again, look in the.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Streets in La County. We got seventy thousand people out there.
More coming up.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
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John Cobelt Show after two o'clock. We told you yesterday
the Senate in his reservoir was the empty reservoir and
the palisades. They drained one hundred and seventeen million gallons
out of it before the fire, so there was no
water to put the fire out. They did it because
the cover was torn. They're doing it again. They're draining
(27:34):
the reservoir again because the cover is damaged again, and
it's going to be shut down for at least nine months.
We're going to talk to say Ed Kazshawani. He is
an attorney lives in the Palisades, lost his home and
has been upfront, going to meetings and fighting this the
the the idiots who run this city in County. To
(27:57):
give you an idea of this story, we're going to
play you this report from ABC seven reporter Carlos Granda
Lake cut number three because the local residents are really upset.
Speaker 5 (28:10):
It was the center of controversy almost a year ago.
The Sanity Andez Reservoir in Pacific Palisades was offline when
the fire started. It is a critical reservoir for fire
fighting efforts, and.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
We don't know what's going to happen in the next month,
next week as far as the weather.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
Frustration level, like my constituents in the Palisades is absolutely
through the roof over this.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
The reservoir has a capacity of one hundred and seventeen
million gallons of water, but it was closed for repairs
during the Palisades fire. A report, however, found that even
if the reservoir was full at the time of the fires,
the system would have been quickly overwhelmed. Water is now
back in the reservoir, but officials say they found tears
in the cover that need to be fixed. This notice
(28:52):
of The project filed by the LEDWP says the reservoir
has to be drained and taken out of service to
replace the damage floating cus.
Speaker 6 (29:00):
These permeable covers do not seem to be able to
hold up to wear and tearror, and so the long
term solution here is going to be to put a concrete.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
Cover on it. Park says that, however, is years away
for now.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
The DWP's application says there would be an alternative water
supply to the Palisades in place before the reservoir is
taken off line. That would be a six mile high
pressure hose from a tank into Panga. Some residents, however,
we spoke with, say it's all a bit disturbing.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
And now the delay is just kind of really sad
and set of circumstances.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
It's almost fire season.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
We don't know Santa and I is going to kick
in in the coming months.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
We need something, we need, we need what.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
The DWP senters a statement which says in part that
it is working closely with city planners, including the Los
Angeles Fire Department, to ensure redundant water supplies are available
throughout their replacement project, proactively replacing the covers an important
entrant step to avoid unexpected tears to the repaired cover
that could force their reservoir out of service.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
For now, the reservoir is online.
Speaker 5 (30:04):
The DWP estimates the repair could take nine months.
Speaker 2 (30:09):
It's Carlos Gronda from ABC News again. Jenny's Connuniya has
seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars salary, runs the DWP.
This comes out of her empty brain. We're going to
have Sayai Kashani on the attorney right after Brigida's news.
He had the same questions that I had in my head.
(30:30):
They're installing a backup water supply it if it didn't
make a difference in fighting the fire having the reservoir drained,
why are they coming up with a backup And they
claim they need this to protect the drinking water. It
wasn't built for drinking water. It was built for firefighting.
And obviously the Palisades went without the drinking water reservoir
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supply for all twenty twenty four before the fire hit
because that thing was drained in early twenty twenty four.
None of this makes sense. Everything they say seems to
be a lie on top of a lie on top
of a lie on top of a bed of absolute idiocy.
We'll talk with Saya Kashani next. Hey, you've been listening
to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear
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