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May 23, 2025 34 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (05/23) - More on he US Senate blocking CA's ban on the sale of new gas-powered cars that was set to begin in 2035. US Congressman Kevin Kiley (R-CA) comes on the show to talk about the US Senate blocking CA's ban on the sale of new gas-powered cars that was set to begin in 2035. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobel Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
We're on every day from one until four or until
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missed Today is Friday, which means two rounds of the
Moistline in the three o'clock hour, and we have a

(00:24):
lot of good stuff to cover later this hour, after
one thirty, we're gonna have California Congressman Kevin Kylie. He's
a Republican and he's the one who wrote the resolution
that the House and the Senate passed and that Trump
is going to sign to block Newsom's gas powered car ban,

(00:47):
the electric car mandate. Kevin Kylie wrote, wrote the legislation
here that blocks it. And I want to tell you, well,
we're gonna do this in parts, because this is a
texts our lives greatly. Otherwise, you know, within ten years
will be forced into buying electric cars that most of

(01:08):
us don't want. And there really is no precedent for this.
It's obviously a horrible idea. It's just driven by Newsom's
religious beliefs. Is ideology. It makes no sense in the
real world whatsoever. The electric cars are very expensive, and

(01:29):
now that now that Congress is going to take away
a lot of the subsidies, they're going to be very,
very expensive. Nobody is going to be able to afford
it other than the wealthy. So it's a technology that
most people can't afford. Secondly, the electric cars generally, if

(01:50):
you go out on the road, there's few places to charge,
and many of the charging stations are broken or slow
or crowded. Somebody wrote to me just this week that
you go to Costco and there are fights at the
charging stations because you get behind somebody. They may be

(02:13):
sitting there for an hour, and if you're fifth in line.
This is this is no this is no good. It
just doesn't work. If if they had an electric car
that worked like a gas power car, in other words,
you started up, you can go four hundred miles, takes
five minutes to recharge. You don't have to worry about
the temperature, you don't have to worry about the elevation,

(02:35):
whether you're driving uphill or downhill.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
There's there's there's gas, there's there's.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Charging stations placed as frequently as gas stations. Right, you
just have you match the exact infrastructure we have now,
and you build an electrical grid many many, many more
times than what we have. I mean, I think somebody
wrote we would need like twenty nuclear power place plans
in order to provide the electricity needed. So when you

(03:04):
when you lay all that out and all I laid
out is true, what does that tell you There's there's
some other ideology at work here. It's not about you're
worried about climate change or the quality of the air
because you did not set up the infrastructure to facilitate it. Right,
No charging stations, they're broken, they're slow, there's lines, we

(03:30):
don't have the power plans to supply the electricity. You
just just keep running all this in your mind and
it's like, Okay, so I did they doing this? John
Fleischmann has a piece. He's got the flash report on substack.
You go to the flash report dot substack dot com.
And he's got a piece. Today when after Kevin Kylie

(03:58):
wrote up this resolution, it passed two forty six to
one sixty four in the House. They got thirty five
Democrats to vote for this. So it won by eighty votes,
and then it went to the Senate and it passed
fifty one to forty four. Trump's could assign it. And

(04:19):
so you may be saying, well, if it passed the House,
it passed the Senate, and he actually had a fair
number of Democrats in the House. What's what's Newsom doing suing?
Because that was the big story. Newsom is suing to
fight this, you know, to fight Trump. What's he hanging on? Well,

(04:40):
Fleischman writes, the Clean Air Act of nineteen seventy gave
California a special exemption. We could set more stringent auto
emission standards than the federal government. But every time California
had an idea, they had to apply to the Environmental
Protection Agency for a waiver. No other state was given

(05:00):
this exception, but California, because if its unique topography has
history of air pollution problems. Now, over the years, California
has received over seventy five waivers, and there are eleven
states that adopted California's rules. So when California sets a
rule that affects forty percent of the US car market,

(05:23):
it means that automakers have to build a different car
because California says so, and because the other states, the
other eleven states just copy. Well, in California, by twenty
thirty five, eighty percent of new car sales must be electric.
And for the reasons I just stated, that's clearly would

(05:46):
be a disaster. Oh, another factor I didn't even didn't
even mention people who live in apartment buildings. For the
most part, there's no charging stations in apartment buildings.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
You know you could plug if you own a house.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I guess you can plug into an outdoor outlet on
your lawn or your garage, but you have to plug
it in. It's for a lot of cars, you got
to plug it in all night, six eight hours to recharge.
The Constitution gives Congress the power to regulate interstate commerce.

(06:24):
So since California's rules impact a dozen states, it creates
in effect a national standard. And that's the legal fight here.
Why should California's priorities force people in Ohio or Texas
to buy electric vehicles? Why are we being forced to
buy electric vehicles?

Speaker 1 (06:42):
Now?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
When we come back Newsom and his little mini knee.
Have you seen this guy Rob Bonta. He's like a
miniature version of Newsom. They both have the same slick
hair and slick suits and whatever Newsom says, BoNT to head,
Bob's along, I agree.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
I agree.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Bota wants to be governor someday, and so his his hero,
the man he wishes to imitate his Anwisom. So they're
always together, very close. And I was watching the press
conference today and these two guys with their slick hair
and their slick suits are also very slick in the

(07:25):
way they argue something. And if you're not smart or
you're not paying attention, you might say, oh gosh, they
have a point there. But they're lying. They're misleading you.
That's the beauty of what they do. That's how they
got where they are. They're really good at lying and
misleading the average person who's either a not that bright

(07:45):
or b not paying that much attention. And we're going
to play you a press conference because another great report
from Ashley Zavalla from KCRA channel three and Sacramento that's
the NBC station there, and again appears to be the
only report covering what goes on in Sacramento government. So
we're gonna play you her report and you'll see how

(08:06):
everything I just said plays out.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
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Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, So last segment, we set up the battle lines. Here.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
It is Gavin Newsom and his mini me Attorney General,
a little short, greasy haired guy. Well, what's his name,
Rob Bonta. That's right, Yeah, Newsom is the tall, greasy
haired guy.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And they do have similar hairs.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's right, slick suits, greasy hair, and very intense, very
self righteous. I mean Newsom was really preening. And we'll
get to that in a second. I want you to
hear Ashley Zavala's report on Newsom and Mini Me Bonta.
They have a lawsuit against Trump. The Senate is blocking

(08:54):
California's ban on gas on gas powered cars, and she's
with KCRA Channel three in Sacramento.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Here firm and our resolve. At this moment.

Speaker 5 (09:06):
On the roof of a state building overlooking the Sacramento skyline,
California leaders announced their latest lawsuit they say is in
the name of clean air.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
I'll be seeing the Trump administration in court.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
Attorney General Rob Bonta and Governor Gavin Newsom held the
news conference right after the US Senate voted to stop
California's ban on the sale of new gas powered cars
by twenty thirty five.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
Ladyshieded to change the rules that have been established in
the United States Senate protocols that have been well established
for centuries, in order to attack California in order to
pollute more.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
State leaders argue the Clean Airraft has allowed California for
decades to set its own vehicle emission standards, and Congress
is illegally trampling on that.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
Our lawsuit will be about ensuring California can enforce its
state laws.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
But California voters never voted for the state's ban on
the sale of new gas powered cars.

Speaker 7 (09:58):
Neither did California's legislature.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
The move was done by Governor Gavin Newsom's administration in
twenty twenty, when he signed an executive order and allowed
the unelected California Air Resources Board to set the rule.

Speaker 7 (10:10):
He has said it's their right.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
But I asked if that process played a role in
the federal government's action, could there have been maybe more
buy in and maybe not be in the situation have.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
A process to do well.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
We had buy in from people.

Speaker 8 (10:23):
All across the United States. We had buy in from
large states. Big states would buy in from the public.
You saw the buying opportunities. We maintain a flexible framework.
We were engaged in good faith conversation on that flexibility.
We're not ideological about this, but you need to send
signals so you can create the conditions where companies like

(10:44):
Tesla are born.

Speaker 9 (10:46):
I actually like EV's I drive an EV myself, but
Californian should be able to shoot drive the car of
their choice.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
That choice shouldn't be made for them.

Speaker 5 (10:54):
Republican California Congressman Kevin Kylie wrote the resolution that's now
on the President's desk.

Speaker 7 (10:59):
You know, see over Holming. Majority of California drivers have
gas powered cars.

Speaker 9 (11:03):
This van, which is completely unworkable, which takes away basic
rights of Californians, is the last thing that our state needs.
And so thankfully, who've had to buy partisan effort here
to restore some common sense.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
Again, this issue is in the hands of Donald Trump,
and the Attorney General has said once he signs the legislation,
then California will file its lawsuit. Where exactly that lawsuit
will be filed is to be seen.

Speaker 7 (11:25):
He says, stay tuned.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
They want to take away your take away your right
to buy a gas powered car. None of us voted
on this, nor did the legislature. Now they're saying the
Trump administration's effort to.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Block this law is illegal.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
It's legal to force us to buy an electric car
when the electric cars are unaffordable, when there is not
much of a charging network, it takes too long, there broken,
it's crowded, you don't have an electrical grid to support this.
And by a dictate from the governor. By the way,

(12:09):
he did this during the lockdown, so it's not like
anybody could form an organization to protest during the lockdown.
He slips us this and the legislature. You will never
find a bigger bunch of cowards than the legislators. Why
did you go on the record and vote for this,

(12:30):
but in Gavin Newsom turn this into a public resolution.
Do you think this would fly if most of the
state can't afford an electric car and doesn't want one,
what do you think the vote would be against electric cars?
Seventy five to twenty five. I bet you'd be seventy
five to twenty five against. And if the representatives in
Sacramento voted the will of the people, it would be

(12:53):
seventy five twenty five against. And then he's got the
nerve to say, well, it led to the creation of
companies like Tesla. Elon Musk move Tesla headquarters out of
California because of Newson's oppressive government, and Newsom didn't care.
Basically said, don't let the door hitch in the ass

(13:14):
on the way out. He is so fake, he is
so phony. But that's not even the whole story here.
I just want to point out he's talking about polluters.
Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant. If he says that,
he's lying, carbon dioxide is what we exhale. We do

(13:39):
not exhale pollution. Most prominent guest that comes out of
the tailpipe is carbon dioxide. There may be a lot
of other pollutants, but that's not one of them.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Is the argument for doing this.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
It's a greenhouse gas, but a greenhouse gas like carbon dioxide,
is not a pollutant because that's what keeps trees growing,
that's what keeps grass growing, plants flowers. It needs carbon
dioxide as fuel, otherwise we wouldn't have any trees or

(14:21):
grass or plants. So there's no way. You can talk
about a substance that is vital to plant grass and
tree life, you can't describe it as a pollutant. But
he knows that most people don't know the distinction. He
knows that seventy five percent of high school graduates are

(14:42):
not proficient in reading or math. So he knows he's
dealing with a dumb down population that spends most of
its time looking at social media, scrolling TikTok. Most people
have no idea whether they breathe in oxygen or carbon dioxide.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
They have no idea.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
The public's dumb, and a dumb public is a dictator's
best friend. Because you could put on a slick suit.
People like slick suits. You can put a lot of
grease in your hair. You could read off a script,
act authoritative, and a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Go, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Those oil companies they're polluters.
We got to stop the polluters from polluting.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
It's like, no, gas and oil is the lifeblood of
modern civilization. Modern civilization does not exist without gas and oil.
We need much more of it, not less. Newsom has
never been quartered by anyone to explain why haven't you
created an infrastructure to supply the electricity. Why are there

(15:49):
so few charging stations? Why are a lot of them broken?
Why are a lot of them slow? Why are their
long lines and bad tempers? Because it's not about not
about an electric car innovation. It's about controlling our lives
and making our lives smaller and making us obedient to

(16:13):
the big machine in Sacramento. And I don't know why
people don't see it. It's what they've done in China,
it's what they've done in Russia, it's what they do
in Cuba. It's not an unheard of situation. But there's
a little piece of the US democracy here in California,
which really is a dictatorship because he didn't let us

(16:34):
vote on electric cars and banning gas powered cars. He
didn't let us vote, and neither of the legislature vote.
We're gonna have Kevin Kylie coming up in moments. We
got and I got another Ashley Zabala clip to play
on this.

Speaker 3 (16:48):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
Sometime in the next few minutes, we're gonna have Kevin
Kylie on. He's the Republican Congressman Northern California. He wrote
the resolution that led to the Senate and the House
banning Gavin Newsom's gas powered car ban, banned the band.
You follow it, Well, let's say he reversed the gas

(17:15):
powered car ban here in California. That's what his resolution did.
And if Newsom and Bonta are suing to reverse the
reversal of the band saying that what the Senate did,
Kylie's resolution was illegal, that you can't keep California from

(17:39):
doing this. They got a special waiver from the government. Well,
what happens that the government pulls the waiver. We'll see
what Kevin Kylie's opinion on this is. I've talked about
Ashley Zavala. She's the TV reporter for kcra A Channel three,
the NBC affiliate in Sacramento. We played a clip of
her report a few minutes ago, questioning Gavin Newsom. Here's

(18:02):
another question Ashley Zavala went after Newsome with and listen
to this closely because this is another part of his
slick misdirection play.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
Still, the overwhelming majority of California drivers are using gas
powered cars. I asked the governor if he's worried about.

Speaker 7 (18:19):
This at all?

Speaker 8 (18:20):
Of course, I imagine the majority of Americans were in
horse and buggies at a certain point.

Speaker 4 (18:25):
It's called innovation.

Speaker 8 (18:26):
You were still probably using a rotary phone before everyone
started using what appears most ubiquitous now the iPhone and
new platforms.

Speaker 4 (18:36):
Called innovation, it's called progress.

Speaker 8 (18:40):
And so we see the markets shifting globally in this space.
We've seen it shift dramatically in California. But we're here
for the long haul in California will continue to lead
in this space.

Speaker 4 (18:52):
And you know, I just don't think our future is
more pollution.

Speaker 8 (18:57):
I'd rather invest in the future and try to recreate
the past.

Speaker 9 (19:00):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
I don't remember in the government like mandating iPhones.

Speaker 8 (19:04):
With this, we're not mandating. We're trying to reduce. We're
not mandating anything. We're saying, stop polluting through the tailpipe.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Listen to this. We are not mandating it. We're not
mandating electric cars. We're just stopping you from buying gas cars. Well,
those are the only two choices right now, aren't they.
And in the old days when we had rotary phones,
nobody blocked us from owning rotary phones. We decided to

(19:36):
switch to dial phones and then eventually, you know, the
push button touchtone phones, and then eventually the iPhones.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
We chose that.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
I have more to say on that in a little bit,
but I'm want to get to Kevin Kylie on now
that he's available. He's a Republican from Northern California in Congress,
formerly a legislator in Sacramento, and he wrote the Congressional
Review Act resolution which passed the hal House by about
eighty votes and pass the Senate by seven votes. Let's

(20:06):
go to Kevin Kylie. Kevin, how are you.

Speaker 9 (20:09):
I'm doing great? How are you?

Speaker 2 (20:11):
I'm doing wonderful, great work, by the way, coming up
with this resolution and the House and Senate passing it.
So Nuism and Bonte claims they're going to sue as
soon as Trump signs it. What do they have a
legal argument to sue?

Speaker 4 (20:28):
No?

Speaker 9 (20:29):
I mean they just sue about everything, right. It's like
when all you have as a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
They're suing the and UNCE do all suit every day.
In this case, it's you know, especially a killer because
what they're suing about is they don't want anyone to
be able to vote on this. You know, Newson issued
the gas car band as an executive order, as a
unilateral decree. It has never been voted on by the

(20:51):
people of California by the state legislature, so we had
to fight just to get any kind of a vote
on this, and once there was a vote, of course,
we won overwhel new some loss overwhelmingly. Thirty five Democrats,
as you said, in the House, joined us because the
policy is completely crazy, it's unworkable, and thankfully now it
is it's not actually going to happen.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
They're making an argument that Congress can't reverse this government waiver.
If Trump had done it on his own, they would
have said, well, Trump can't do it on his own,
he has to have Congress.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
Trump can't do it.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
If Trump can't do it and Congress can do it,
can't do it. Who can reverse a government regulation or
a waiver. Somebody must be able to.

Speaker 9 (21:35):
Yes, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. Is they don't
want anyone to be able to have a say on this.
The reason they were afraid of about is that they
knew they would lose, and that's exactly what happened. So
you know they're going to go and file their lawsuit.
But I think, you know, Californians can rest assured that
you're going to be able to drive the car of
your choice. You're not going to have Gavin Newsom taking
your car for you anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
You know what's so nuts about this, and I keep
going back to this point, is that we don't have
many charging stations. Many of the stations don't work, or
they're very slow where they're crowded. We don't have an
electrical grid to support this. The cars themselves are very expensive,
and they have all kinds of limitations based on temperature
and the kind of terrain you're driving on. I mean, simply,

(22:18):
the technology is not ready. And if if he actually
got away with his gas powered ban, it would be disastrous.

Speaker 9 (22:27):
Well, that's right. And remember if he not only has
tried to ban gas powered cars, he wants to mandate
electric trucks and trains and buses and lawnmowers and leaf blowers.
And it's like they want to ban a new thing
every single day, even though in many of these bases,
as you note, the technology doesn't even exist. For like

(22:49):
electric trains, this isn't even a thing that is possible
right now, and yet they wanted to mandate it. And
by the way, this ban on gas powered cars, which
would ultimately have gone into effects in twenty thirty five,
it started to take effeck next year, so that a
certain percentage would and it would increase gradually until it's
twenty thirty five. So we really got this thing reversed

(23:10):
just in the nick of time.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, so you don't think he's really got a legal
thread here to hold on to to try to reverse
the rule.

Speaker 9 (23:18):
Now, I mean we reverse this under what's known as
the Congressional Review Act, which is a statute to process.
It was specifically designed for what we used it for,
to say that when an agency makes a new rule
that has sweeping impact, that Congress should be able to
weigh in and decide whether that rule should actually go forward.
And so you have to get it to pass the

(23:38):
House and pass the Senate, and get it signed by
the president. That's exactly what we did here. And they're
trying to argue that somehow this doesn't meet the definition
of a rule, but the reality is this is a
policy that is going to affect forty million people in California,
as well as people in eleven other states that have
pegged their policy is under what's known as the Clean

(23:59):
Air Act to Californians. So if you're banning something that
the vast majority of people, you know, in states comprising
tens of millions of people use and on everyday basis
for actually a significant amount of time in their lives,
and that is not a rule subject to the Congressional
Review Act, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I just don't.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Understand if a bureaucrat comes up with a bad rule,
that there is nobody else in government on any level
that can reverse a bad decision and the public is
just supposed to suffer. I mean that seems nuts.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
Yeah, exactly. Well, that's and I think it's very telling
that they know their policies do not have the support
of the people, do not have the support of the
people's representatives. So they're trying to insist upon a regime
where the decisions of bureaucrats within the executive branch are
the end of the story.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
Why do they keep pushing this, Well, I mean they've
just sort of, you know, made it their view that
this is, you know, the world that they are going
to force into being, that you know, consumers should not
have any say in the matter.

Speaker 9 (25:03):
I think it's just the overall impulse behind this kind
of far less radical progressivism that isn't even you know,
characteristic of the Democratic Party as a whole, but of
the particular faction that Gavin Newsom and others represent, And
they're unwilling to consider things like logic, like you know,
the desires of the people and that they represent, or

(25:25):
any of the considerations that are relevant usually to for
any reasonable person to policymaking. But rather they just are
plowing ahead with, you know, the way that they think
the world ought to be. And I think that you know,
it's there. It's gotten a significant amount of pushback within
California and across the country, and the Vogue yesterday is
very much reflective of that.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Well, great work on this, excellent and everybody in California
appreciates this a lot as a victory.

Speaker 9 (25:53):
For common sense. And so I think we have many.

Speaker 1 (25:55):
More, yeah, pretty rare up to this point.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I imagine, I imagine being in the majority in Washington
right now is way better than being in the minority
in Sacramento.

Speaker 9 (26:04):
It's certainly very different. And we're you know, in particular,
now we have new tools at our disposal and so
we've been trying to push back against a lot of
the instandity in California, not just with this gas car ban,
but with the sanctuary state, with high speed rail, with
Newsom's medical for legal immigrants, and you know, crime and homelessness,

(26:28):
and a whole host of other areas where actually I
think we are starting to see some improvement in California.
And you know, we passed Top thirty six with crime,
we got the grants pass decision from the Supreme Court.
When it comes to homelessness, Newsom has actually rolled back
some of the policy of free medical for ilegal immigrants.
And so we've been able to apply pressure in a
way that's actually starting to improve things. And I think

(26:49):
we got a little bit of hope now in California.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
All Right, Kevin, we'll talk again soon again. Great work
on gettings written in past. It's Kevin Kyleie, Republican Congressman
from northern California. He wrote the resolution that the Senate
and the House passed and Trump's going to sign, and
that ends the electric car mandate. It ends Newsome's ban
on gas powered cars.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A
six forty.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Coming up after two o'clock to talk about some fireworks
at the La City Council meeting yesterday. Boy did Tracy
Park go off on the rest of the council. We
have her full mini rant coming up to play. We're
going to talk to Michael because they are there. They're
slashing the police and fire believe it or not, and

(27:41):
they're even going after Karen bass Is inside safe her
fake homeless initiative which didn't work. Talk about that coming up.
When Kevin came on, we were in the middle of
a playing or talking about Ashley Zavalla's question to Gavin
new Why don't we play this again?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
If you're just joining us?

Speaker 2 (28:02):
This is actually is Avola from a Channel three and
Sacramento asking Newsom about whether California drivers really are going
to want to shut down, are really going to want
to give up their gas powered cars?

Speaker 5 (28:18):
Still the overwhelming majority of California drivers are using gas
powered cars. I asked the governor if he's worried about
this at all?

Speaker 8 (28:25):
Of course, and I imagine the majority of Americans were
in horse and buggies at a certain point.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
It's called innovation.

Speaker 8 (28:31):
You were still probably using a rotary phone before everyone
started using what appears most ubiquitous now the iPhone and
new platforms called innovation, it's called progress. And so we
see the markets shifting globally in this space. We've seen
it shift dramatically in California. But we're here for the

(28:53):
long haul in California will continue to lead in this space.
And you know, I just don't think our future is
more pollution. I'd rather invest in the future than try
to recreate the past.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 7 (29:06):
I don't remember in the government like mandating hyphones.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
With this, we're not mandating. We're trying to reduce. We're
not mandating anything.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
We're saying stop polluting through the tailpipe.

Speaker 2 (29:19):
If you're taking away the right to buy a gas
powered car, then you're mandating an electric car because that's
the only other choice. You see how slick he is.
You see the misdirection there, the way he changes the subject.
He starts talking about polluters again. Carbon dioxide out of
a tailpipe. That is not pollution anymore than you are
polluting when you exhale. It's what grass and trees and

(29:43):
plants take in. They take in the carbon dioxide, but
it's double talk. It's look over here while I point
over there. It's about confusing you. That's what he does.
And Ashley's a valid in fall for it that his
whole analogy breaks down because when horse and buggies came,

(30:04):
people did not give up their horse and buggies until
cars were working well and affordable. The first people who
had cars, that was a tiny, tiny percentage. Horse and
buggies stuck around for a while because the cars were
expensive and they didn't work that well. You could count

(30:26):
on a horse much better. When the cars became affordable
and reliable, then the horse and buggies faded away. But
it wasn't until then. Electric cars are not affordable and reliable.
There's no infrastructure to support it. Same thing with iPhones. iPhones,

(30:48):
when they become affordable and reliable, people went for them
and they were better than rotary phones.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
But we didn't.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
We didn't give up our rotary phones, or we didn't
give up our touch stone phones until the iPhone was affordable,
until it worked properly. What you have here is a technology.
Electric cars is not ready for mass use. It's good
if you're really rich and you could afford a third car,

(31:18):
and you're not relying on it for long distance travel.
And you've got the time to plug it in and wait.
But for most people, I don't have hours to plug
it in. I can't stand in line, so the technology
is not ready. He's forcing us to buy something that

(31:41):
doesn't work for most of us, that we can't afford.
People can't spend seventy five thousand dollars on a car.
And considering how many people are not rich in California,
I mean, it's just he is such an arrogant, pompous jackass,
isn't he.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
He's and rich since he was born.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
He hasn't the slightest idea what it's like to have
a middle class or a lower class life economically, has
no idea. Remember during COVID he went to the French
laundry for an expensive meal and expensive line. Remember his
kids went to an expensive private school when your kids
were shut out of school. I've never seen anybody with

(32:24):
a bigger disconnect from regular normal folk than Gavenuwsom. It
is just preposterous how out of touch he is. He's
really like a spoiled little baby, and he's got this
dictatorial streak in him. He and his staff and the
idiots in the legislature. Honest to god, if there was

(32:48):
like some way to.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
You know what they don't need. Lobotomies is what they need.
They really do.

Speaker 8 (32:56):
Are you going to perform them?

Speaker 2 (32:58):
I would personally perform on all the way it seems
like Newsom already had is.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
I mean, this is a dangerous.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Group of people, and they're dangerous to the people they
claim to represent the most, you know, the poor, the
working class, the middle class. I have no idea how
this crowd survives in California. I don't know if there's
some some toxins.

Speaker 1 (33:19):
In the water. Who the hell would keep voting for this?
People that are not listening to your show.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
John, Apparently not Apparently they're not listening in great enough numbers.
I mean, how can anybody, how can you? Where am
I wrong? Just somebody tell me where I'm wrong on this?
They'd let your car industry is not ready. It's simply
not ready. Unless you're really wealthy and you got a
lot of free time.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
This is not a debatable point. There aren't two sides
to this. And you notice he didn't mention global warming
once in that speech. He didn't mention climate change. He
switched the whole topic. He turned it to pollution. Carbon
DIAXID is not pollution. I don't pollute because I exhale.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Well, maybe you do. I do you do.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
Well? There should be some restrictions on you, and there are,
all right. Debora Mark has the news. Michael Monks is
coming up. CAFI AM six sporting more stimulating talk radio. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI AM six
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