December 16, 2025 • 33 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (12/16) - Royal Oakes comes on the show to talk about the charges filed against Nick Reiner after his parents Rob and Michele were murdered. More on the Somali/Minnesota taxpayer funds fraud scam. California is on the verge of financial collapse.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't I am six forty you're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We carried the press
conference earlier in the show. Nathan Hockman, the La County
DA announced that Nick Reiner is going to be charged
with two counts a first degree murder for stabbing his parents,
(00:21):
Rob and Michelle to death. And we are now going
to talk with Royal Oaks ABC News legal analysts about
the details of these charges and Royal first thing that
jumped out is that he didn't rule out the death penalty.
He said the charge can bring life in prison without
parole or the death penalty to be decided later. And
(00:46):
somebody just texted me there is no death penalty in California. Well,
there still is one on the books.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Right exactly. It's all about Governor Gavin Newsom thinking that
the death penalty is a bad idea. He's basically dismantled
Zan Flenton and death row and so on. But technically,
as you say, it's on the books, the governor has
the ability, through his powers his orders to block things.
But that doesn't stop a DA like Nathan Hockman, who
(01:12):
believes in the death penalty from saying, at least it's
the possibility because one of the special circumstances in is
multiple murders could get you the death penalty. And of
course here there are two alleged murders by Nick Reiner.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So describe. People often get confused about the degrees of murder,
the main difference between first degree second degree murder, and
why what Nick Reiner did would be classified his first degree.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, So first degree murders where you intend to kill
and you premeditated, it doesn't that have to be for
a long time. Very briefly, that's murder one. Murder two
is where you did not intend to kill, but you
were so reckless you knew somebody probably would die. He
didn't really care, but you didn't intend it. That's murder two.
So that'd be either twenty five to life or fifteen
(02:00):
to life. Down here, John's where it gets interesting. Manslaughter,
either voluntary or involuntary, would only put him in prison
for a small number of years, as few as three
years if a manslaughter conviction occurs. Now, how could that be, Well,
we have something called voluntary intoxication in the law, which
says if you take drugs or alcohol or something that
(02:21):
totally impairs you. So you killed somebody and you kind
of intended to do it, but you didn't really have
the legal capacity to form a specific intent because you
were so whacked out. That would get you down to manslaughters.
So bottom line, John, if this goes forward as a trial,
and of course there could be a plea deal at
any point, we don't know the strength of the evidence,
but if he goes forward as a trial, his metal
(02:42):
state is going to be a huge issue. And we
know from reports that probably a big chunk of Hollywood
was a conor Lebran's holiday party Saturday night who observed
the confrontation between Nick and Rob. They would all be
called as witnesses to testify as to whether he's seeing
like he was a sound mind, was he insane? Was
(03:02):
he raving? So this could get real interesting in terms
of delving into his psyche.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, every report I've read about his behavior at the
party is he was acting really weird. Let's call it that.
You know, he was running up to famous people and
others saying are you famous? Are you famous? Like really
obnoxious and strange. And Bill Hayter the comedians telling a
story that Nick ran up to him while he was
(03:28):
talking to somebody, and hater said, excuse me, this is
a private conversation, and he just glared. Nick Reiner glared
at him, just stared for a long time, and then
he stormed off. Now that would indicate either he was
having a mental episode or he was on some bizarre
drug or both.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Absolutely. I mean, and that stuff you're saying, I had
not heard that for that is huge because that goes
right to the heart of the mental statistician. Now, there's
no such thing as temporary insane anymore. You're either knew
right from wrong at the time you did it, or
you didn't know right from wrong. But this kind of
information could absolutely support Alan Jackson, you know, the former
DA who prosecuted Phil Specter back in the day. And
(04:12):
he's represented Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey and Karen Reid,
the lady who got off for allegedly killing her boyfriend
in Massachusetts this year. Alan Jackson is obviously going to
really focus on the fact that he was acting irrationally.
He just wasn't himself. Who knows what kind of drugs ralcohol,
he said. And since age fifteen, he's now thirty two,
he's been on the street part of the time. He said,
(04:34):
mental health issues, drug issues. So this is all of
this weirdness is Taylor made to help his defense.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Fifteen years or more of serious drug addiction that could
damage your brain. I mean, it's a terrible side absolutely,
where the mental illness leads to the drugs to try
to quiet the demons, or the drugs can lead to
the mental illness, and you know, you can be like
complete nuts after a while. That's what's out on the
streets every day. We're always dodging.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yep. And I think the words that Nathan Hochman used
during his press conference that you carried, some of them
were really interesting. For example, he referred to this guy
as this murderer a lot of times. Das say, well,
these are just elevations. You know, we're presumed innocent. None
of that presumed innisis stuff. He called him this murderer.
And then Nathan Hochman made it very clear, well, yes
(05:22):
he's not in court today because he has to be
medically cleared before he moves from jail to court. But
everybody has to be medically cleared, you know, as he's psychotic,
as he's suicidal, is he having a seizures some other issues.
So Hawkman is trying to send a message right off
the bat to nip it in the butt. We didn't
miss court today because he's a nutcase. Therefore we would never,
(05:43):
of course execute him or find him guilty of murdered one. No,
we're just doing it because it's routine. But I mean, John,
this is here we go again. I mean Brentwood not
only was the site of the OJ murders, I mean
Marilyn Monroe suicide was in Brentwood. You have another big
double murder with men and the O. J. Simpson and
the star power here. I mean the ment Does family
(06:05):
wasn't famous before, but certainly Rob Reiner was, and so
this could be a huge case. It's going to be fascinating,
John to see whether the judge who handles the preliminary
hearing in a few weeks and then maybe a trial
says yes to cameras, because this could be a huge
test if the O. J. Simpson camera hangover, where a
lot of judges in the last several decades is said
forget about it. Yeah, didn't work well for OJ. So
(06:27):
we're not doing it here now.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And now you know OJ's team was famous for coming
up with alternate theories and charges of racism and planted evidence.
What alternatives does Alan Jackson have here other than other
than you know, he's he's mentally ill or whacked out
on drugs. I mean, it's got to be something down
(06:49):
that path. I don't think there's any real question that
he did it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So we don't know. I mean, for all we know,
you know, he's got an ironclad alibi. We do now
know from the last few minutes that he was apprehended
by police. Somebody spotted him at a metro station in
Exposition Park near usc six hours after the bodies were found,
So we know that's how it happened, But we have
no idea what the true facts are. We know that
it's alleged a knife was used. Now let's assume for
(07:16):
the moment that the DA does have a strong case
that he did it. We don't know, but let's assume
for hypothetical purposes in that sense. In that way, you're right.
I think the whole ballgame is going to be dueling experts.
The defense will have an expert saying he was literally
out of his mind when he did this. He was
flying high on some kind of drugs. You know, he
(07:37):
thought he was killing a broadosaurus, you know, like somebody
on LSD, that is a possible defense, or even if
that seems far offence, just the idea that you were
zeroing in on. He was so troubled for the last
fifteen to seventeen years on the streets, off and on.
I mean, when his dad is Rob Reiner, I mean,
this is not a normal psyche and so that has
to be the essence of it that gets it away
(07:59):
from murder one or into manslaughter territory really very few
years behind.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So he's got a fifteen plus year battle with his
dad over the drugs he's taken, and then supposedly we're
fighting about rehab that night. See I don't know what's true, right,
you can't trust in all the reports. But let's just
say for this conversation, Rob Reiner's trying to get Nick
(08:24):
to go back into rehab for the nineteenth time, and
Nick's not having anything of it. And the drugs that
he's on diminishes his capacity in a way that he
can kill Rob and kill his mother and still not
face a full murder charge.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh absolutely, California, you should be called diminished capacity. Now,
California law focuses on voluntary intoxication, So even if you
voluntarily take drugs, take alcohol, then do something terrible that
can really use your charge from murder absolutely to manslaughter.
The theory being for a murder charge you have to
(09:01):
prove a specific intent to kill or an awareness that
what you're doing might well kill somebody but you don't
really care. So that's murder one and two. You kick
it down to voluntary manslaughter when you have either a
heat of passion or this situation where basically it's the
drugs that caused you to do this. You mentally didn't
have the ability to form a good, normal, cogent specific intent.
(09:25):
I'm going to kill my parents, and so yeah, I
mean the fights that he has had over the years,
they'll all come into play.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's funny, you know. I Mean, I just remember since
I was a kid that people used to say, like,
being drunk is no excuse legally, that if you do
stupid stuff or you kill somebody, and you try to say, well, judge,
I was drunk, It's I get out of here. It's
not an excuse. And I just assumed that applied to
drugs as well. But that's not the case here in California.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Huh right. What it means is it can't get you off.
It can't result in they're not guilty, but it can
kick it down from murder to manslaughter, which would make
a huge difference obviously in terms of the timing. But
I mean, this is just amazing. People have reported on
the Hollywood connection, as if we needed it anymore. The
murder house where Rob and Michelle lived it used to
(10:14):
be owned by Henry Fonda, is that right? It used
to be owned by Norman Lear. And if you're an
old movie buff, the Casa Blanca, the guy that played
Victor Loslow, Paul Henry, he lived there as well, So
you couldn't have any more solid Hollywood connections with us.
The result is this is obviously going to stay on
people's radar screen.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
There aren't too many people who could buy a house
that big and that expensive, and if you're living on
the West side of La that narrows it down to
Hollywood people and a few others.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He paid five million bucks to Norman Lear about twenty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, all right, well, thank you very much for coming on,
and I imagine we'll be talking a lot about this
case over the next year. All right, there you go,
Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal Analysts.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You're listening to John Cobelt Demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel and
then you'll get notifications whenever we put a new video
up there because we're running more long form videos and segments.
You can subscribe by going to YouTube dot com slash
at John Cobelt's show. YouTube dot com slash at John
Cobelt's Show, and you do that and the rest of
(11:27):
our social media you follow at John Cobelt Radio at
John Cobelt Radio. Now, the Department of Health and Human
Services is doing its own investigation to all that fraud
in Minnesota involving the Somali immigrants who built taxpayers out
of a billion dollars in phony claims, and according to
(11:54):
The New York Post, they have ab ten letters and
they're gonna they're gonna investigate whether these tax dollars that
were sent to Minnesota social service programs were used to
fuel illegal mass migration. Alex Adams is an assistant Secretary
of Health and Human Services, one of their departments, and
(12:15):
they sent a letter to Governor Tim Waltz and the
Minneapolis Mayor, Jacob Fry at a nonprofit, a nonprofit that
got hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal grants, this
one to provide head start programs. You know, that's education
for very young children. And Adams says that we're concerned
(12:37):
it might have been used to fuel illegal mass migration
and they're trying to track the money. Good luck with that.
You might as well just book a one way flight
to Somalia because you're going to spend the rest of
your life there trying to track the money. Listen to this.
In twenty nineteen, illegal aliens lived in Minnesota for twenty nineteen.
(13:07):
Four years later it was one hundred and thirty thousand.
Went from forty to one hundred thirty thousand in four years,
ninety thousand illegal aliens in Minnesota. It became two percent
of the state's population and I think a lot higher
percentage of the Social service money. And Adams says, there's
(13:34):
public statements from hundreds of Minnesota Department of Human Services
workers state employees saying that clear warnings of fraud were disregarded,
the whistleblowers were faced retaliation, and the misuse of federal
funds may have persisted for years. They sent that to
(13:57):
Tim Walls and they said, under your leadership, can you
imagine this? And Waltz knew it was going on, so
did everybody else in the new administration. They were not
going to deny the Somali immigrants this money, even though
nobody was entitled to it, and they didn't want to
risk not getting their vote in the next election cycle.
(14:19):
This is really really absurd. Treasury departments investigating, the House
Oversight Committee is investigating, and it's at least a billion
dollars and maybe more. Now they've convicted dozens of these
fraudsters to account for about two hundred and fifty million dollars,
(14:41):
but that's only a quarter of the known fraud and
like I said, they think it could be many billions more.
Listen to all these Listen to all these programs. Hate
that word parents in community action? Does that me community services?
(15:02):
Block grant, Social services block grant, title for e foster care,
Refugee cast Assistant, refugee cash assistance, refugee medical assistance, the
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, the Childcare and Development Fund.
(15:22):
Each one of these was a sesspool for people stealing money,
some of it stolen by legal Somali migrants, some of
it funneled to illegal Somali migrants. The parents in Community
(15:45):
Action and this childcare development fund, those that was the
conduit to the head start programs. And they are looking
for names, addresses, social security numbers, data birth and on
and on and on, and they're gonna they're gonna do
a massive investigation. That I mean, Tim Wattz ought to
(16:06):
be ought to be deported out of the state and
out of the country. Any politician that facilitated billions of
dollars of taxpayer waste for legal aliens because he was
trying to get the legal migrants votes, that's not criminal.
How's that not criminal?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
H it?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean, obviously laws were broken here by the fraudsters,
But how about the other end when the people allowing
the fraud to happen looked the other way and enabled
facilitated what was going on, especially the political leaders who
were who were doing it for for for their own votes.
(16:47):
That's not a crime. There's got to be there's got
to be a felony somewhere in there. You would think,
all right, uh, we got Mark Garragas coming up after
three o'clock. He has a client, a Pacific Palisades owner
that they have filed a separate lawsuit against the City
of Los Angeles and the d w P N LA
County and Karen Bass for all the failures in the fire.
(17:10):
So Garrigos is in on the action too, and we
will talk to him coming up when we return. There
are there's new unemployment numbers out. You may have heard.
There's all kinds of numbers out which show that the
California job market is absolutely the worst in the country.
(17:32):
Our tax situation, of course is the highest in the country,
but they're way shorter revenue there. There's there's there's a
collapse coming in the California state government, a financial collapse.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you things when you
look at this, there's all points to government policies. All
(17:54):
of this is Gavin Newsom. We have the worst unemployment
rate in the country, tell you about it. We come back.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and
we've got the Moistline on Friday at three twenty and
three point fifty, you call the Moistline and unleash all
your anger and fury and frustration eight seven seven Moist
eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or usually
talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. I am just calculating
(18:30):
up here, as I like to do at least every
every few days. Just how many states have gas? That's amazing?
How many states have cheap gas?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The national average for gas prices is now two dollars
and ninety cents to ninety is the average. The lowest
price is Oklahoma at two dollars and thirty cents two
thirty and I paid what did I pay? I paid
(19:04):
four thirty nine or maybe four forty nine this week.
California is at average of four thirty five a gallon
four point thirty five, Oklahoma two thirty and the average
is two ninety. That's just uh. I say this every
(19:28):
day now. Other states, even a high tax state like
New York, it's only three oh nine. Yeah, if you
look at it at similar states politically, New Jersey two
ninety one, Illinois three oh three. They look at Florida,
it's at two eighty eight. So whether it's a a
(19:52):
state with California like politics or a state with California
like size or close to it. Uh, let's go, Where's Texas.
Texas is two fifty one, two fifty one and we're
paying four to thirty fives. And this is really taking
a toll on the economy. And Katie Grimes at the
California Globe published a long story today counting all the
(20:16):
different ways that the state is failing. Now, we have
by by far, the worst gas prices in the continental
United States. I just can't I can't get over the
people in Oklahoma are pulling up and that's the average.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I had to check those Denver pumps because Denver there
were at least ten gas stations in Denver that we're
selling last week between a dollar sixty nine and dollars
seventy seven in the Denver metro area. All right, which is,
you know, helped crush this economy in California and these
(20:55):
these are gaving you some decisions. There's nobody else to
blame here. California is unemployment rate five point six percent,
highest unemployment rate among all states five point six, Florida
three point nine. Now I know there's a lot of
(21:16):
people in California. Maybe you know twenty million people in
California who would have a stroke if you suggested that
maybe it would be better to have Ron DeSantis running
things than Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh loo, could you stand?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That's horrid?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well, I got I got an unemployment rate in Florida
thirty nine and a California unemployment rate of five six.
If you're looking for a job or you're looking to
make some money, where would you rather live?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I just can't believe you'd say that. Road said, Well,
I'm looking at the gas prices and California is at
four thirty five a gallon and Florida is at two
eighty eight. I don't know. Maybe Florida is run better,
more efficiently, more intelligently. Because you live in Florida, you
(22:10):
got a lot more money in your pocket, and you're
probably doing a lot better on the job. There are
more jobs, which means higher wages. Other places that people
flee California to Texas, their unemployment rate is four to one.
By the way, the national average is four to four,
(22:31):
So we are thirty percent higher than the national average
at unemployment. But Texas is below the national average at
a four to one. Florida is at a three to nine.
A lot of people moved out to Tennessee. That's a
three six. Georgia, UH is a three four. And there's
a lot of hard working behind the scenes Hollywood people
(22:52):
that have moved to Georgia because there's so much production there.
So do you want to go to state with an
unemployment rate at three to four Tennessee three six, Florida nine,
Texas War one. Even New York State is at a
four to two, below the national average, and then California
a whopper five point six. And then the gas prices,
(23:17):
same set of states that I just gave you. Florida
is at two eighty eight, Georgia is at two seventy four.
What else I got here? Jersey's at two ninety one. Massachusetts,
I mean their nickname is Taxachusetts and they're only at
two ninety nine. New York is three h three. I mean,
(23:37):
it's it's just Tennessee is a two fifty five. You know,
people are leaving California for Tennessee. These are really mild
climates North Carolina, really mild climates and governments that leave
you alone. I don't know why people. I mean, I
(23:58):
got something I've been stewing over. You know, first of
the year, they're going to be banning plastic bags again,
this time all plastic bags and grocery stores because the
last plastic bag ban from ten years ago didn't work. Like,
who needs this? Every time I use a paperbag in
a grocery store, it tears and everything drops to the ground,
(24:19):
either falls out the bottom or the handles come off
every freaking time. Here's more from Katie Grimes's column, and
you know ought to look it up. It's californiaglobe dot
com californiaglobe dot com. She's quoting the Legislative Analyst Office.
(24:39):
This is at of Sacramento. It's a non parties in
office there. The legislature is looking at an eighteen billion
dollar budget deficit in the coming year, eighteen billion, even
(25:02):
though revenue is improving. But whatever revenue increase they're enjoying
because you know, a lot of people have been cashing
in their tech stocks, and the stock the tech stock
market absolutely erupted into outer space in the past year
or two, so people are cashing in some of the winnings.
(25:26):
They're paying the they're paying the tax capital gains tax,
and so we have billions of extra dollars tax dollars
and still an eighteen billion dollar deficit. Is then that
means bad, bad, bad management by the part of GAVENUSOM
What else would it be like? I am open to
(25:46):
other theories. I'm open to blaming other people. But if
your if your gas is going for the four thirty
five and uh Florida is going for what did I
say two eighty eight? Tell me where do you want
to live? Where do you want to be pumping gas?
Everybody hates the cost of living in California. Everybody it's
(26:07):
the worst highest cost of living in the country. I'm
only asking questions here. You know, if you want to
get a new job, where would you rather be where
the unemployment is five to six or three six. Joe
Cockin is quoted in Katie Grime's story, who is one
(26:31):
of my favorite writers, And he analyzes all this, analyzes
all the demographics, and he says, affluent young professionals are
migrating out of California. In twenty twenty two, California lost
more than two hundred thousand net migrants twenty five and
(26:51):
older all right twenty five and older net loss two
hundred thousand. Moving from Califournia to other states, most of
them had either four year or associate degrees. Now they
(27:11):
moved to places like Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas.
In fact, those numbers surged in those states surged. H
I told you what the what the unemployment rates were
(27:32):
in some of those places, like North Carolina's unemployment race
three to seven. Just as an example, California's unemployment rate
five six, the highest among the fifty states. Unemployed workers
up six straight months, according to the Sacramento Bak six
(27:54):
months in a row. And by the way, you know
might come back. I'll tell you what it is. County
by county in this area. We have some of the
worst counties. Central Valley is the absolute worst. You're not
gonna believe those those unemployment numbers. We'll tell you about it.
Coming up.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock and
we've got Mark Geragos coming up after three o'clock and
Brigitta's News. Mark has got a new client a Pacific
Palisades homeowner who's filing a fire lawsuit against the city
of the county, the DWP and Karen Bass and Mark
Gargos in on the action. He's got a client that's suing,
(28:40):
so we'll get his his analysis of that disaster. I
was telling you about this dreadful California economy. It is
the worst in the nation, and largely because of Gavin
Newsom's policy, because we've got I told you gas prices
(29:03):
here or four thirty five a gallon, and in the
rest of the state, rather the rest of the country,
it's averaging two ninety. It's as low as two thirty
in Oklahoma. Also, we have the highest unemployment rate. It's
at six point four percent, and I'm sorry, it's at
(29:27):
five point six percent, and that's thirty percent higher than
the rest of the country's average five point six percent.
But if you go county by county, Los Angeles is
five point nine, San Bordino is five seven, Riverside is
six point one. Imperial County, which is down by the
(29:52):
Mexican border, unemployment rate is twenty one and a half percent.
You don't see Newsom down there very often, do you.
So La is at five nine venturists five to one.
All these numbers are higher than every other state in
the country. All these individual southern California counties, you go
(30:16):
slightly north, go towards the Central Valley. Kerrent County is
at an is that right? Eight point one? Prince very
small on my screen, to Laurie County, which is two
counties over from LA nine point eight percent. Yikes, Fresno
County is seven and a half percent. There are fifty
(30:41):
eight counties in the state, and there's only three counties
below the national average and unemployment, and they're in the
Bay Area. San Francisco at a four to two, San
Mateo at a four to zero. And what's the third one, Oh,
NAPA is at a four to one. That's it counties
(31:06):
in California that are below the national average and unemployment
three San Francisco, San Mateo, Napa, all the wealthy tech people.
Orange County is that the national That is that four
point four, which is the national average. Everything else, everything
(31:31):
else is bad news, and everything else is bad news
for gas prices. But in this alternate reality world we
live in, he runs around bragging and beating his chest,
babbling about affordability and running for president. And what's even
more surreal is there was a story in Axios that
(31:54):
Kyla Harris wants to run for president again, which would
be wildly entertaining. If these two failures, these two empty
headed buffoons, they're going to be fighting for the same constituency.
I don't know what that constituency is, people who like
(32:16):
high gas prices and high unemployment. Like, how does that poll?
I'd love to see a generic pole. Would you want
to would you want a president who's led their state
to the highest unemployment rate, in the highest gas rate,
the highest gas price? What percentage supports those ideas? And
(32:43):
then they're gonna split that constituency in half if they
both run. You imagine two left wing failures from California
leading candidates for president. You'll see they're the top two
in the polls. We come back Mark Garragus and he's
representing a Pacific Palisades homeowner who's suing everybody you should
(33:06):
be suing if you lost your house in the Palisades fire.
So we'll talk to Mark Garrett is coming up next,
Virginia Diegostina live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI Am six
forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
Can't I am six forty you're listening to the John
Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. We carried the press
conference earlier in the show. Nathan Hockman, the La County
DA announced that Nick Reiner is going to be charged
with two counts a first degree murder for stabbing his parents,
(00:21):
Rob and Michelle to death. And we are now going
to talk with Royal Oaks ABC News legal analysts about
the details of these charges and Royal first thing that
jumped out is that he didn't rule out the death penalty.
He said the charge can bring life in prison without
parole or the death penalty to be decided later. And
(00:46):
somebody just texted me there is no death penalty in California. Well,
there still is one on the books.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Right exactly. It's all about Governor Gavin Newsom thinking that
the death penalty is a bad idea. He's basically dismantled
Zan Flenton and death row and so on. But technically,
as you say, it's on the books, the governor has
the ability, through his powers his orders to block things.
But that doesn't stop a DA like Nathan Hockman, who
(01:12):
believes in the death penalty from saying, at least it's
the possibility because one of the special circumstances in is
multiple murders could get you the death penalty. And of
course here there are two alleged murders by Nick Reiner.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
So describe. People often get confused about the degrees of murder,
the main difference between first degree second degree murder, and
why what Nick Reiner did would be classified his first degree.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Yeah, So first degree murders where you intend to kill
and you premeditated, it doesn't that have to be for
a long time. Very briefly, that's murder one. Murder two
is where you did not intend to kill, but you
were so reckless you knew somebody probably would die. He
didn't really care, but you didn't intend it. That's murder two.
So that'd be either twenty five to life or fifteen
(02:00):
to life. Down here, John's where it gets interesting. Manslaughter,
either voluntary or involuntary, would only put him in prison
for a small number of years, as few as three
years if a manslaughter conviction occurs. Now, how could that be, Well,
we have something called voluntary intoxication in the law, which
says if you take drugs or alcohol or something that
(02:21):
totally impairs you. So you killed somebody and you kind
of intended to do it, but you didn't really have
the legal capacity to form a specific intent because you
were so whacked out. That would get you down to manslaughters.
So bottom line, John, if this goes forward as a trial,
and of course there could be a plea deal at
any point, we don't know the strength of the evidence,
but if he goes forward as a trial, his metal
(02:42):
state is going to be a huge issue. And we
know from reports that probably a big chunk of Hollywood
was a conor Lebran's holiday party Saturday night who observed
the confrontation between Nick and Rob. They would all be
called as witnesses to testify as to whether he's seeing
like he was a sound mind, was he insane? Was
(03:02):
he raving? So this could get real interesting in terms
of delving into his psyche.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Well, every report I've read about his behavior at the
party is he was acting really weird. Let's call it that.
You know, he was running up to famous people and
others saying are you famous? Are you famous? Like really
obnoxious and strange. And Bill Hayter the comedians telling a
story that Nick ran up to him while he was
(03:28):
talking to somebody, and hater said, excuse me, this is
a private conversation, and he just glared. Nick Reiner glared
at him, just stared for a long time, and then
he stormed off. Now that would indicate either he was
having a mental episode or he was on some bizarre
drug or both.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Absolutely. I mean, and that stuff you're saying, I had
not heard that for that is huge because that goes
right to the heart of the mental statistician. Now, there's
no such thing as temporary insane anymore. You're either knew
right from wrong at the time you did it, or
you didn't know right from wrong. But this kind of
information could absolutely support Alan Jackson, you know, the former
DA who prosecuted Phil Specter back in the day. And
(04:12):
he's represented Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey and Karen Reid,
the lady who got off for allegedly killing her boyfriend
in Massachusetts this year. Alan Jackson is obviously going to
really focus on the fact that he was acting irrationally.
He just wasn't himself. Who knows what kind of drugs ralcohol,
he said. And since age fifteen, he's now thirty two,
he's been on the street part of the time. He said,
(04:34):
mental health issues, drug issues. So this is all of
this weirdness is Taylor made to help his defense.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Fifteen years or more of serious drug addiction that could
damage your brain. I mean, it's a terrible side absolutely,
where the mental illness leads to the drugs to try
to quiet the demons, or the drugs can lead to
the mental illness, and you know, you can be like
complete nuts after a while. That's what's out on the
streets every day. We're always dodging.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Yep. And I think the words that Nathan Hochman used
during his press conference that you carried, some of them
were really interesting. For example, he referred to this guy
as this murderer a lot of times. Das say, well,
these are just elevations. You know, we're presumed innocent. None
of that presumed innisis stuff. He called him this murderer.
And then Nathan Hochman made it very clear, well, yes
(05:22):
he's not in court today because he has to be
medically cleared before he moves from jail to court. But
everybody has to be medically cleared, you know, as he's psychotic,
as he's suicidal, is he having a seizures some other issues.
So Hawkman is trying to send a message right off
the bat to nip it in the butt. We didn't
miss court today because he's a nutcase. Therefore we would never,
(05:43):
of course execute him or find him guilty of murdered one. No,
we're just doing it because it's routine. But I mean, John,
this is here we go again. I mean Brentwood not
only was the site of the OJ murders, I mean
Marilyn Monroe suicide was in Brentwood. You have another big
double murder with men and the O. J. Simpson and
the star power here. I mean the ment Does family
(06:05):
wasn't famous before, but certainly Rob Reiner was, and so
this could be a huge case. It's going to be fascinating,
John to see whether the judge who handles the preliminary
hearing in a few weeks and then maybe a trial
says yes to cameras, because this could be a huge
test if the O. J. Simpson camera hangover, where a
lot of judges in the last several decades is said
forget about it. Yeah, didn't work well for OJ. So
(06:27):
we're not doing it here now.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And now you know OJ's team was famous for coming
up with alternate theories and charges of racism and planted evidence.
What alternatives does Alan Jackson have here other than other
than you know, he's he's mentally ill or whacked out
on drugs. I mean, it's got to be something down
(06:49):
that path. I don't think there's any real question that
he did it.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
So we don't know. I mean, for all we know,
you know, he's got an ironclad alibi. We do now
know from the last few minutes that he was apprehended
by police. Somebody spotted him at a metro station in
Exposition Park near usc six hours after the bodies were found,
So we know that's how it happened, But we have
no idea what the true facts are. We know that
it's alleged a knife was used. Now let's assume for
(07:16):
the moment that the DA does have a strong case
that he did it. We don't know, but let's assume
for hypothetical purposes in that sense. In that way, you're right.
I think the whole ballgame is going to be dueling experts.
The defense will have an expert saying he was literally
out of his mind when he did this. He was
flying high on some kind of drugs. You know, he
(07:37):
thought he was killing a broadosaurus, you know, like somebody
on LSD, that is a possible defense, or even if
that seems far offence, just the idea that you were
zeroing in on. He was so troubled for the last
fifteen to seventeen years on the streets, off and on.
I mean, when his dad is Rob Reiner, I mean,
this is not a normal psyche and so that has
to be the essence of it that gets it away
(07:59):
from murder one or into manslaughter territory really very few
years behind.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
So he's got a fifteen plus year battle with his
dad over the drugs he's taken, and then supposedly we're
fighting about rehab that night. See I don't know what's true, right,
you can't trust in all the reports. But let's just
say for this conversation, Rob Reiner's trying to get Nick
(08:24):
to go back into rehab for the nineteenth time, and
Nick's not having anything of it. And the drugs that
he's on diminishes his capacity in a way that he
can kill Rob and kill his mother and still not
face a full murder charge.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Oh absolutely, California, you should be called diminished capacity. Now,
California law focuses on voluntary intoxication, So even if you
voluntarily take drugs, take alcohol, then do something terrible that
can really use your charge from murder absolutely to manslaughter.
The theory being for a murder charge you have to
(09:01):
prove a specific intent to kill or an awareness that
what you're doing might well kill somebody but you don't
really care. So that's murder one and two. You kick
it down to voluntary manslaughter when you have either a
heat of passion or this situation where basically it's the
drugs that caused you to do this. You mentally didn't
have the ability to form a good, normal, cogent specific intent.
(09:25):
I'm going to kill my parents, and so yeah, I
mean the fights that he has had over the years,
they'll all come into play.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That's funny, you know. I Mean, I just remember since
I was a kid that people used to say, like,
being drunk is no excuse legally, that if you do
stupid stuff or you kill somebody, and you try to say, well, judge,
I was drunk, It's I get out of here. It's
not an excuse. And I just assumed that applied to
drugs as well. But that's not the case here in California.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Huh right. What it means is it can't get you off.
It can't result in they're not guilty, but it can
kick it down from murder to manslaughter, which would make
a huge difference obviously in terms of the timing. But
I mean, this is just amazing. People have reported on
the Hollywood connection, as if we needed it anymore. The
murder house where Rob and Michelle lived it used to
(10:14):
be owned by Henry Fonda, is that right? It used
to be owned by Norman Lear. And if you're an
old movie buff, the Casa Blanca, the guy that played
Victor Loslow, Paul Henry, he lived there as well, So
you couldn't have any more solid Hollywood connections with us.
The result is this is obviously going to stay on
people's radar screen.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
There aren't too many people who could buy a house
that big and that expensive, and if you're living on
the West side of La that narrows it down to
Hollywood people and a few others.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
He paid five million bucks to Norman Lear about twenty
years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, all right, well, thank you very much for coming on,
and I imagine we'll be talking a lot about this
case over the next year. All right, there you go,
Royal Oaks, ABC News Legal Analysts.
Speaker 3 (10:57):
You're listening to John Cobelt Demand from KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
If you want to subscribe to our YouTube channel and
then you'll get notifications whenever we put a new video
up there because we're running more long form videos and segments.
You can subscribe by going to YouTube dot com slash
at John Cobelt's show. YouTube dot com slash at John
Cobelt's Show, and you do that and the rest of
(11:27):
our social media you follow at John Cobelt Radio at
John Cobelt Radio. Now, the Department of Health and Human
Services is doing its own investigation to all that fraud
in Minnesota involving the Somali immigrants who built taxpayers out
of a billion dollars in phony claims, and according to
(11:54):
The New York Post, they have ab ten letters and
they're gonna they're gonna investigate whether these tax dollars that
were sent to Minnesota social service programs were used to
fuel illegal mass migration. Alex Adams is an assistant Secretary
of Health and Human Services, one of their departments, and
(12:15):
they sent a letter to Governor Tim Waltz and the
Minneapolis Mayor, Jacob Fry at a nonprofit, a nonprofit that
got hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal grants, this
one to provide head start programs. You know, that's education
for very young children. And Adams says that we're concerned
(12:37):
it might have been used to fuel illegal mass migration
and they're trying to track the money. Good luck with that.
You might as well just book a one way flight
to Somalia because you're going to spend the rest of
your life there trying to track the money. Listen to this.
In twenty nineteen, illegal aliens lived in Minnesota for twenty nineteen.
(13:07):
Four years later it was one hundred and thirty thousand.
Went from forty to one hundred thirty thousand in four years,
ninety thousand illegal aliens in Minnesota. It became two percent
of the state's population and I think a lot higher
percentage of the Social service money. And Adams says, there's
(13:34):
public statements from hundreds of Minnesota Department of Human Services
workers state employees saying that clear warnings of fraud were disregarded,
the whistleblowers were faced retaliation, and the misuse of federal
funds may have persisted for years. They sent that to
(13:57):
Tim Walls and they said, under your leadership, can you
imagine this? And Waltz knew it was going on, so
did everybody else in the new administration. They were not
going to deny the Somali immigrants this money, even though
nobody was entitled to it, and they didn't want to
risk not getting their vote in the next election cycle.
(14:19):
This is really really absurd. Treasury departments investigating, the House
Oversight Committee is investigating, and it's at least a billion
dollars and maybe more. Now they've convicted dozens of these
fraudsters to account for about two hundred and fifty million dollars,
(14:41):
but that's only a quarter of the known fraud and
like I said, they think it could be many billions more.
Listen to all these Listen to all these programs. Hate
that word parents in community action? Does that me community services?
(15:02):
Block grant, Social services block grant, title for e foster care,
Refugee cast Assistant, refugee cash assistance, refugee medical assistance, the
Low Income Home Energy Assistance Program, the Childcare and Development Fund.
(15:22):
Each one of these was a sesspool for people stealing money,
some of it stolen by legal Somali migrants, some of
it funneled to illegal Somali migrants. The parents in Community
(15:45):
Action and this childcare development fund, those that was the
conduit to the head start programs. And they are looking
for names, addresses, social security numbers, data birth and on
and on and on, and they're gonna they're gonna do
a massive investigation. That I mean, Tim Wattz ought to
(16:06):
be ought to be deported out of the state and
out of the country. Any politician that facilitated billions of
dollars of taxpayer waste for legal aliens because he was
trying to get the legal migrants votes, that's not criminal.
How's that not criminal?
Speaker 2 (16:24):
H it?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
I mean, obviously laws were broken here by the fraudsters,
But how about the other end when the people allowing
the fraud to happen looked the other way and enabled
facilitated what was going on, especially the political leaders who
were who were doing it for for for their own votes.
(16:47):
That's not a crime. There's got to be there's got
to be a felony somewhere in there. You would think,
all right, uh, we got Mark Garragas coming up after
three o'clock. He has a client, a Pacific Palisades owner
that they have filed a separate lawsuit against the City
of Los Angeles and the d w P N LA
County and Karen Bass for all the failures in the fire.
(17:10):
So Garrigos is in on the action too, and we
will talk to him coming up when we return. There
are there's new unemployment numbers out. You may have heard.
There's all kinds of numbers out which show that the
California job market is absolutely the worst in the country.
(17:32):
Our tax situation, of course is the highest in the country,
but they're way shorter revenue there. There's there's there's a
collapse coming in the California state government, a financial collapse.
And I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you things when you
look at this, there's all points to government policies. All
(17:54):
of this is Gavin Newsom. We have the worst unemployment
rate in the country, tell you about it. We come back.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am
six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and
we've got the Moistline on Friday at three twenty and
three point fifty, you call the Moistline and unleash all
your anger and fury and frustration eight seven seven Moist
eighty six eight seven seven Moist eighty six, or usually
talkback feature on the iHeartRadio app. I am just calculating
(18:30):
up here, as I like to do at least every
every few days. Just how many states have gas? That's amazing?
How many states have cheap gas?
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
The national average for gas prices is now two dollars
and ninety cents to ninety is the average. The lowest
price is Oklahoma at two dollars and thirty cents two
thirty and I paid what did I pay? I paid
(19:04):
four thirty nine or maybe four forty nine this week.
California is at average of four thirty five a gallon
four point thirty five, Oklahoma two thirty and the average
is two ninety. That's just uh. I say this every
(19:28):
day now. Other states, even a high tax state like
New York, it's only three oh nine. Yeah, if you
look at it at similar states politically, New Jersey two
ninety one, Illinois three oh three. They look at Florida,
it's at two eighty eight. So whether it's a a
(19:52):
state with California like politics or a state with California
like size or close to it. Uh, let's go, Where's Texas.
Texas is two fifty one, two fifty one and we're
paying four to thirty fives. And this is really taking
a toll on the economy. And Katie Grimes at the
California Globe published a long story today counting all the
(20:16):
different ways that the state is failing. Now, we have
by by far, the worst gas prices in the continental
United States. I just can't I can't get over the
people in Oklahoma are pulling up and that's the average.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I had to check those Denver pumps because Denver there
were at least ten gas stations in Denver that we're
selling last week between a dollar sixty nine and dollars
seventy seven in the Denver metro area. All right, which is,
you know, helped crush this economy in California and these
(20:55):
these are gaving you some decisions. There's nobody else to
blame here. California is unemployment rate five point six percent,
highest unemployment rate among all states five point six, Florida
three point nine. Now I know there's a lot of
(21:16):
people in California. Maybe you know twenty million people in
California who would have a stroke if you suggested that
maybe it would be better to have Ron DeSantis running
things than Gavin Newsom.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Oh loo, could you stand?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
That's horrid?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Well, I got I got an unemployment rate in Florida
thirty nine and a California unemployment rate of five six.
If you're looking for a job or you're looking to
make some money, where would you rather live?
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (21:48):
I just can't believe you'd say that. Road said, Well,
I'm looking at the gas prices and California is at
four thirty five a gallon and Florida is at two
eighty eight. I don't know. Maybe Florida is run better,
more efficiently, more intelligently. Because you live in Florida, you
(22:10):
got a lot more money in your pocket, and you're
probably doing a lot better on the job. There are
more jobs, which means higher wages. Other places that people
flee California to Texas, their unemployment rate is four to one.
By the way, the national average is four to four,
(22:31):
So we are thirty percent higher than the national average
at unemployment. But Texas is below the national average at
a four to one. Florida is at a three to nine.
A lot of people moved out to Tennessee. That's a
three six. Georgia, UH is a three four. And there's
a lot of hard working behind the scenes Hollywood people
(22:52):
that have moved to Georgia because there's so much production there.
So do you want to go to state with an
unemployment rate at three to four Tennessee three six, Florida nine,
Texas War one. Even New York State is at a
four to two, below the national average, and then California
a whopper five point six. And then the gas prices,
(23:17):
same set of states that I just gave you. Florida
is at two eighty eight, Georgia is at two seventy four.
What else I got here? Jersey's at two ninety one. Massachusetts,
I mean their nickname is Taxachusetts and they're only at
two ninety nine. New York is three h three. I mean,
(23:37):
it's it's just Tennessee is a two fifty five. You know,
people are leaving California for Tennessee. These are really mild
climates North Carolina, really mild climates and governments that leave
you alone. I don't know why people. I mean, I
(23:58):
got something I've been stewing over. You know, first of
the year, they're going to be banning plastic bags again,
this time all plastic bags and grocery stores because the
last plastic bag ban from ten years ago didn't work. Like,
who needs this? Every time I use a paperbag in
a grocery store, it tears and everything drops to the ground,
(24:19):
either falls out the bottom or the handles come off
every freaking time. Here's more from Katie Grimes's column, and
you know ought to look it up. It's californiaglobe dot
com californiaglobe dot com. She's quoting the Legislative Analyst Office.
(24:39):
This is at of Sacramento. It's a non parties in
office there. The legislature is looking at an eighteen billion
dollar budget deficit in the coming year, eighteen billion, even
(25:02):
though revenue is improving. But whatever revenue increase they're enjoying
because you know, a lot of people have been cashing
in their tech stocks, and the stock the tech stock
market absolutely erupted into outer space in the past year
or two, so people are cashing in some of the winnings.
(25:26):
They're paying the they're paying the tax capital gains tax,
and so we have billions of extra dollars tax dollars
and still an eighteen billion dollar deficit. Is then that
means bad, bad, bad management by the part of GAVENUSOM
What else would it be like? I am open to
(25:46):
other theories. I'm open to blaming other people. But if
your if your gas is going for the four thirty
five and uh Florida is going for what did I
say two eighty eight? Tell me where do you want
to live? Where do you want to be pumping gas?
Everybody hates the cost of living in California. Everybody it's
(26:07):
the worst highest cost of living in the country. I'm
only asking questions here. You know, if you want to
get a new job, where would you rather be where
the unemployment is five to six or three six. Joe
Cockin is quoted in Katie Grime's story, who is one
(26:31):
of my favorite writers, And he analyzes all this, analyzes
all the demographics, and he says, affluent young professionals are
migrating out of California. In twenty twenty two, California lost
more than two hundred thousand net migrants twenty five and
(26:51):
older all right twenty five and older net loss two
hundred thousand. Moving from Califournia to other states, most of
them had either four year or associate degrees. Now they
(27:11):
moved to places like Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Florida, and the Carolinas.
In fact, those numbers surged in those states surged. H
I told you what the what the unemployment rates were
(27:32):
in some of those places, like North Carolina's unemployment race
three to seven. Just as an example, California's unemployment rate
five six, the highest among the fifty states. Unemployed workers
up six straight months, according to the Sacramento Bak six
(27:54):
months in a row. And by the way, you know
might come back. I'll tell you what it is. County
by county in this area. We have some of the
worst counties. Central Valley is the absolute worst. You're not
gonna believe those those unemployment numbers. We'll tell you about it.
Coming up.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock and
we've got Mark Geragos coming up after three o'clock and
Brigitta's News. Mark has got a new client a Pacific
Palisades homeowner who's filing a fire lawsuit against the city
of the county, the DWP and Karen Bass and Mark
Gargos in on the action. He's got a client that's suing,
(28:40):
so we'll get his his analysis of that disaster. I
was telling you about this dreadful California economy. It is
the worst in the nation, and largely because of Gavin
Newsom's policy, because we've got I told you gas prices
(29:03):
here or four thirty five a gallon, and in the
rest of the state, rather the rest of the country,
it's averaging two ninety. It's as low as two thirty
in Oklahoma. Also, we have the highest unemployment rate. It's
at six point four percent, and I'm sorry, it's at
(29:27):
five point six percent, and that's thirty percent higher than
the rest of the country's average five point six percent.
But if you go county by county, Los Angeles is
five point nine, San Bordino is five seven, Riverside is
six point one. Imperial County, which is down by the
(29:52):
Mexican border, unemployment rate is twenty one and a half percent.
You don't see Newsom down there very often, do you.
So La is at five nine venturists five to one.
All these numbers are higher than every other state in
the country. All these individual southern California counties, you go
(30:16):
slightly north, go towards the Central Valley. Kerrent County is
at an is that right? Eight point one? Prince very
small on my screen, to Laurie County, which is two
counties over from LA nine point eight percent. Yikes, Fresno
County is seven and a half percent. There are fifty
(30:41):
eight counties in the state, and there's only three counties
below the national average and unemployment, and they're in the
Bay Area. San Francisco at a four to two, San
Mateo at a four to zero. And what's the third one, Oh,
NAPA is at a four to one. That's it counties
(31:06):
in California that are below the national average and unemployment
three San Francisco, San Mateo, Napa, all the wealthy tech people.
Orange County is that the national That is that four
point four, which is the national average. Everything else, everything
(31:31):
else is bad news, and everything else is bad news
for gas prices. But in this alternate reality world we
live in, he runs around bragging and beating his chest,
babbling about affordability and running for president. And what's even
more surreal is there was a story in Axios that
(31:54):
Kyla Harris wants to run for president again, which would
be wildly entertaining. If these two failures, these two empty
headed buffoons, they're going to be fighting for the same constituency.
I don't know what that constituency is, people who like
(32:16):
high gas prices and high unemployment. Like, how does that poll?
I'd love to see a generic pole. Would you want
to would you want a president who's led their state
to the highest unemployment rate, in the highest gas rate,
the highest gas price? What percentage supports those ideas? And
(32:43):
then they're gonna split that constituency in half if they
both run. You imagine two left wing failures from California
leading candidates for president. You'll see they're the top two
in the polls. We come back Mark Garragus and he's
representing a Pacific Palisades homeowner who's suing everybody you should
(33:06):
be suing if you lost your house in the Palisades fire.
So we'll talk to Mark Garrett is coming up next,
Virginia Diegostina live in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You
can always hear the show live on KFI Am six
forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.
The John Kobylt Show News
Host
John Kobylt
Popular Podcasts
Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!