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November 3, 2025 32 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (11/03) - Steve Hilton, lead Republican candidate for 2026 California Governor, calls the show. Kristen Welker from Meet the Press interviews Gov Newsom.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:00):
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I'll be on nine o'clock tonight. Now let's turn to
Steve Hilton. Steve Hilton is the top candidate in either
party for governor next year. You know we're going to

(01:06):
have we're going to have a primary in June, and
then the top two go on to the main event
in November, and right now he's first. He's even ahead
of missus potato head Katie Porter after she flamed that
on television a few weeks ago. If you're not familiar

(01:27):
with him, he was on Fox News for six years,
hosting a show called The Next Revolution, and he's been
an entrepreneur and he's also worked for the former UK
Prime Minister David Cameron is his head of strategy. He's
published a book called Cali Failure, Reversing the Ruin of
America's worst run state. He's got a compelling message. Let's

(01:48):
get Steve Hilton on. How are you, Steve? I'm very well.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
It's great to be on with you, and I'm very excited.
Alex is saving the big Guns for week two of
his new show, and you'll be on tonight. That's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Thank you very much, Steve. For the people who maybe
don't watch Fox and are all that's familiar with you,
why are you running for governor?

Speaker 1 (02:10):
So we move as people can tell, I'm not originally
from around he I was born in England. My parents
are Hungarian. They were refugees from communism, so that sense
of freedom and the price that people are going to
prepare to pay for freedom. Very deep in me, I
know what it means to have freedom taken away. Communism
wasn't something that is a theoretical thing I read about

(02:33):
in the books. It happened to my family, and so
we grew up as immigrants in England and worked hard.
I got to Oxford University, as you mentioned, started a
number of businesses, ended up working to help David Cameron
get elected, worked in ten Downing Street as leading our
domestic reform program. Then we moved here in twenty twelve

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to America, to California. This is the home of freedom,
where it should be. That's how I think of California,
the greatest on earth. It's the greatest state in the
greatest nation on earth. I'm a proud American now, My wife,
my two sons were all Americans. So proud to be here.
And honestly, the truth is that over all the years
of being here and hosting my show on Fox, most

(03:14):
of my career, I've actually been a doer, not a talker.
And as I was there, you know, it's a wonderful platform.
Of course, an honor to be able to speak to
America from my platform at Fox, but I just wanted
to really I hank it for just getting back to
doing things. And the thing that really breaks my heart
is what these people have done to our state, to California.

(03:36):
And you were just listening just before, just for all
the top of the hour, just the unbelievable list of
ways in which they've made us the worst performing state
in the country. It's actually staggering how comprehensively they've failed.
And seeing all that, I just thought, you know what,
I can't stand by. This state has been so great
for me. I've taught at Stanford University, started a business here,

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and made my life here, raised my family here. I really,
you know, I've got all this experience that's relevant, business experience,
government reform experience, and media platform. I think it's time
I stepped up, and I gradually came to the realization
I don't just want to write policy papers and write
books about how California needs to be turned around. I
actually want to lead the fight myself. And so that's

(04:17):
why I got in the race a couple of months ago,
in the end of April, and I'm really loving the
energy out there. I think people are so sick of it.
They're so sick of what's going on. It's beyond just
Republican Democrat now just regular people who've just been crushed
because at the end of all this, this was it
fifteen years now of one party rule. This state has
become a place totally corrupt, totally corrupt system, and it's

(04:40):
a system that where the rich get richer, but regular
working people gets crewed. And I'm fired up to fix it.
And that's why I'm doing it, because I know what
it's like to struggle. Right, I was a small business owner.
What they're doing to small businesses in our state is
a crime. Just people are just trying to do the
right thing and run a business and serve their community

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and create a few jobs, and they're being crushed at
every turn and just found it trying to make ends
meeting being completely destroyed by the gas prices and the
taxes and the nonsense that everyone has to put up with.
It's time for change, and I'm excited. I think we're
going to do it next year. I really do. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I mean, there's a climate is ripe. I mean for
a massive change. Just off the top of my head.
The other day, I came up with nineteen major issues
that Newsom has made much worse in the state. Each
one of them alone is a crisis. And the energy
is so we pick two dollars more per gallon than Texas,

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for example, the electricity rates are sixty seventy percent higher
than the national average. What are you going to do?
What are you going to do about that?

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well, well, here's the thing. First of all, it's your
the highest gas iron in Hawaii. We have abundant oil
and gas for in California, and we have abundant oil
and gas reserves that cannot only be used to fuel
our cars and trucks, but to fuel our power stations.
And that's how it's connected. So we say, what are

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you going to do about it? I'm going to reverse
the crazy climate policies that have given us the highest
gas prices and the highest electric builds. Let's go through
it with gas prices. It's not just the gas tax.
People are from talk about that. Actually, as a governor,
there's not you know, on my own, I won't be
able to do too much about that. What I can
really deal with is the regulations because that comes through

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the executive branch carb the California Air Resources Board, number one,
the Low Carbon Fuel Standard, number two, the cap and
Trade system, number three, the refinery regulations, and number four
closing down California oil and gas production. So we used
to produce most of the oil that we use here
in California in state. Now we're importing most of it.

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Eighty percent, nearly is import on giants, supertankers coming halfway
around the world from places like Iraq. It's insane. It's
pushing up the price. It's not even helping their climate goals.
It doesn't even help the environment. It's insane. It's just
hurting working people. So that's the point. You're going to
reverse all that, and we get to my pledge, which
is the target three dollar gas, which you know, you

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say that to people around the country, they think, what's
so good about that? That's why everyone else pays, But
of course here it's you know, nirvanna. But that's what
we can do if we reverse the climate policies and
on electric bills, it's the same principle. We end the
insane obsession with windmills and solar farms, unreliable, expensive energy. Instead,

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we kill the windmills, we stop the solar subsidies, and
we use California natural gas to power our electric grid
because it's affordable and reliable, and in the long term
we use that as a bridge to nuclear power that
takes longer to come on stream. Is the amazing fact,
right now, we could pretty much provide all our electric

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needs at a far lower cost just with the current
gas fired power stations that we have installed. We don't
even need to build new ones because the current gas
fired powerstations in California are deliberately being run a ten
to fifteen percent of their capacity. They're just serving as
backup wind and solar because that's what these climate lunatics

(08:27):
are obsessed with. And so we could just get rid
of all that use the existing power stations we've got.
We've got all the natural gas we need here in California. Again,
we are on natural gas is even worse than oil.
We are importing ninety percent of our natural gas. None
of it makes sense. So it's just common sense policies
that prioritize affordable, reliable gas and electric and then we

(08:51):
can get things back on track. And by the way,
it's the same story on all of the different policy areas.
I've done a lot of work on this. I started
at plus the organization Golden Together, three or so years ago.
I've been traveling the state, meeting people, businesses every part
of our state and working on the solutions and the
plans to fix our business climate, the schools, deal with crime,

(09:12):
all of these issues. It's not complicated. We just need
to do what we did before the Democrats took over
and ruined our state.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Hang on, Steve, you can stay a little while here, yes, please, Okay?
Good Steve Hilton. He's the top candidate running for governor.
He's a Republican and he's leading all Republicans and Democrats
as we head towards the primary in June. And more
with Steve coming up when we come back.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
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Speaker 2 (09:45):
Kfire. Let's continue now talking with Steve Hilton. He is
the leading candidate for governor in California as we head
to the primary in June. He's Republican, but he's on
top of all the other Republicans and Democrats. And Steve
for six years had a show on Fox News called
The Next Revolution. He's entrepreneurs, started many businesses and He's

(10:09):
also formerly was the head of strategy for UK Prime
Minister David Cameron. Has written a book called calif Failure,
Reversing the Ruin of America's worst run State, and he's
right about that. Steve, you're back here. How about how
about the homeless thing. We got one hundred and eighty
seven thousand homeless people, I mean here in LA it's

(10:32):
over seventy thousand, and half of them are in the
streets and it has created an awful quality of life.
Everybody is scared, especially in the dark, and regardless of
how they spin the crime numbers, people are afraid because
of all the homeless zombies that walk around. What can
you do about it? I mean, Newsom's wasted tens of

(10:54):
billions of dollars and he doesn't know he doesn't even
know where the money way.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Of course, because okay, this is the point. They don't
care about results and outcomes. This is the kind of
what you get after fifteen years of one party or
longer in terms of the state legislatures, like thirty years,
they get to the point where they assume they're going
to be in power forever. They can do what they want.
They don't care about outcomes and results. They announce things
and then they just move on and the media covers

(11:19):
it and there's never any follow up. So you saw
with homelessness. I don't know how many times he's announced
his plan to end homelessness. What's that like? You know,
we're now in the twenty second year of Gavin Newsom's
plan to end homelessness since when he was mayor of
San Francisco. It's another example of two things. First of all,
the corrupt machine that you've got with these Democrats, because

(11:41):
all those billions of dollars, where's that actually gone? As
the money has been spent. But homelessness gets worse, it
goes to the homeless industrial complex. What do we mean
by that? It's the collection of crony developers who get
paid a fortune for building these apartments. They call it
permanent supportive housing where they put homeless people who have
still drug addicts and still addicted to alcohol, so they

(12:02):
can't function properly and they end up back on the streets.
But the developers get paid seven hundred thousand, eight hundred thousand.
Now in the Bay Area, they're talking a million dollars
for each of these apartments. So that's a racket. And secondly,
the nonprofits, the homelessness nonprofits. I was on the streets
with someone who's a real nonprofit funded by actual charitable
donations and part of the faith community, trying to get

(12:24):
people off drugs on the streets in Los Angeles and Venice. Actually,
he was telling me that you got homeless nonprofits funded
by all this government money. They're running over a million
dollars a year. The people who run these nonprofits. It's disgusting.
So that's one thing. It shows you the corruption. But
the second point it illustrates is the solution is just

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common sense and there's a three point plan. And Number one,
you have to enforce the law. It's illegal to live
and camp on the streets. It's always been illegal. There
is no reason we've had to put up with this
all along. It's the first prior to you've got to
get people off the streets. As governor, if local politicians

(13:04):
won't enforce the law, I will. We have state law
enforcement resources. We are going to get people off the streets.
If they're on the streets, you can't do anything to
help them. Number two, you have to get people off
drugs and alcohol, and you have to make that happen.
You have to make it mandatory. Gather you some just
veto the bill which would have had what they call

(13:25):
sober housing. So the condition of getting the housing is
that you've got to take part in an abstinence program
that gets you off drugs. He just vetoed it can't.
They've got this ideology they call it housing first, that
you could get the housing and then you don't have
to get anything else. No, you have to get How
can you possibly get people have their lives back on
track if they're still addicted to drugs and alcohol going

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back to the streets to buy drugs. To Number two
is you've got to require abstinence and number three you've
got to have mental health treatment because over eighty percent
of the people on the streets also have some with
mental health problem. Unbelievably, Gavin Newsome in his Proposition one
ballot initiative last year that he touted as the solution
to all this, actually cut funding for counties mental health

(14:12):
services to transfer the money into the crony developer's pocket
through affordable housing whatever they call it. And so that's
the third priority. Restore funding for mental health services so
we can get people the treatment they need. That's the
way to do it. Enforce the law, dragging out alcohol
addiction treatment, mental health provision restored, and then we can

(14:33):
solve the problem. We shouldn't have any homelessness. It's just unacceptable,
and as governor, I just won't accept it.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
Why do you think they have these policies? Obviously a
lot of it's just corruption. They're just stealing the money.
But the outcomes so awful. Why do they want this?

Speaker 1 (14:54):
No, it's exactly it defies beliefs. Well, that funny enough,
That's actually what sort of what I was trying to
in this book that I wrote. I'm not really sort
of you know, the book was months ago. I'm now
running for governor. But but what I tried to do
in the book was explain how it's gone wrong. The
book's called Calor Failure, Reversing the Ruin of America's Worst
Foreign State. And what I was trying to explain was, like,

(15:15):
this is not normal, the fact that they've failed on
everything all at the same time, Like this the worst
results on everything in the country. And the real explanation
is it's not just oh, they're Democrats and so they
don't know what they're doing. It's deeper than that. There's
an ideology, a kind of sick ideology actually that's driving this,
because they push these policies that make no sense. And

(15:35):
so for this particular issue of homelessness, it comes under
the category of what I call in the book compassion
isn't So they think it's compassionate, but what they're really
doing is taking the appearance of compassion and wanting to
seem compassionate and turning that into an obsessive ideological fixation

(15:56):
with never telling people what to do. Oh, you can't
move people off the street. That's cruel. They're choosing to
live like that. They have their rights. It's mean to
put to force people to do anything. If you force
people to get into drug treatment, that's against their you know, desires,
and you can't that's cruel. No, it's the opposite.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
It's some kind of it seems like some kind of
the streets. It seems like some kind of sick religion.
Where were there sacrifice the other thing.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I mean, yes, and actually I would have I mean,
it's all like that. Client I mean, on the brievious topic,
we're discussing the gas and electric stuff that doesn't make
any sense. On what planet does it make sense to
import oil from halfway around the world when we have
it here in California. It doesn't. But the reason they're
doing it is because they're ideologues and they're obsessed with
what I call client Again, in my book, I go

(16:45):
through all these different things that each chapters are different.
Isn't an ideological pathological idea, ideology? And and there it's climatism.
They've elevated or sunk, depending how you want to look
at it, the idea of climate change and fighting climate
change into this all consuming nutty religion where it doesn't
matter what happens in the real world as long as

(17:07):
you look as if you're fighting, you're a sort of
climate warrior. And it's just it really is. It's pathological.
It does not make sense. You think, well, why would
any normal person do this? There's no justification. They're not normal.
They're ideologues. And that's why I'm actually very confident in
that netime. You asked the question earlier, how is it
that we keep voting for these people? I think that

(17:27):
really is going to change. Next to you, because we're
going to have They've never really faced a candidate like me,
who really knows their policy, who has had lots of
media experience. I've got business experience. I cannot wait to
take them apart. They have not a leg to stand on,
they have no case to make to be given another
four years of power. They failed on every front, and
I'm so looking forward for taking them apart and leading

(17:50):
the change that we need in this state.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
I want you to come back soon. I want you
to come in studio and we can have any longer conversation.
All right, Steve Hill, top candidate running for governor right now,
number one Republican had of all the Democrats and the
other Republicans. Steve, We'll get together soon. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
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Speaker 2 (18:14):
Every day. We do the show from one until four.
No excuse if you miss some of it. You can
hear it on the app After four o'clock it gets
posted John Cobelt's Show on demand. It's the same as
the radio show, and we've had quite a program so far.
We spent most of the first hour on Karen Bass
appearing on Alex Michaelson's The Story Is show now on

(18:34):
CNN and we dissected her all her audio clips as
she gave a series of bland customer service responses. None
of the fired anger you hear her spewing when allegal
aliens are getting rounded up by Trump. This was flat, colorless, undetailed,

(18:58):
saying the obvious. The buck stops here. And this all
comes after we discovered last week that firefighters up in
the Palisades saw that there was a hot spot after
the New Year's Day fire. They said there was hot rocks,
hot tree stumps, smoldering smoke coming out of the ground,
and they told the battalion chief, Mario Garcia, we ought

(19:22):
to stay here and put this out, and he said no.
Hoses rolled up, Let's go, they protested. They pushed back,
he goes, no, let's go, and then that was it
and nothing was heard about it ever again until I
guess last Thursday, when the Times got these text messages
and the firefighters relayed their real time thoughts from that day. Unbelievable.

(19:49):
I mean, many heads ought to roll over this. This
is unconscionable. This is so wrong, This is so wrong.
This is where the fire restarted, and they were there
and they knew that hotspots get blown up into fires.
When you had the Santa Ana winds blowing blowing, they
knew that. They just went home and that's that's what

(20:14):
the fire. Not only a firefighter personnel, but but the management,
the officials, the chiefs, everybody stood down. She of course
ran off to Africa. Kristin Crowley, I don't know if
she knew about it or not, doesn't matter. They nobody

(20:34):
did their job. That's what's galling. Nobody even tried to
do their job. So that and then two o'clock hour,
well you just heard. We had Steve Hilton Nott, who's
the leading Republican Canadaate, and I thought I had a
very compelling message, so we spent a half hour with him,
and that's on the podcast as well. Gavin Newsom is

(20:55):
really on a media tour to uh because she's running
for president. It still won't publicly admit it. Kristen Welker
is the host of Meet the Press on NBC and
she just assumes Newsome is running for president no matter

(21:15):
what he says. Listen to this clip. I'm going to
play cut eight first, asking why he wants to be president.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
You said you'll make a decision about whether to run
for president after the midterms. Why do governor, Let me
ask you, why do you want to be president?

Speaker 5 (21:32):
I don't. I'm not suggesting I am. I'm saying I
have a.

Speaker 6 (21:35):
Response to someone talked about it, and.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
I hate when I nothing.

Speaker 6 (21:39):
I dislike more than the politician that sits there and
lies to you.

Speaker 5 (21:45):
And we all just sit there rolling our eyes. Go
and give me a break.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Stop, stop to stop right there?

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Wait?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
What whoa?

Speaker 7 (21:52):
Whoa?

Speaker 6 (21:55):
After tomorrow, when he announces that he's running for president,
you need to play that clip.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
He doesn't hate any more than a politician that sits
there and lies to you.

Speaker 7 (22:05):
And he just said then he doesn't. Oh, we can't
make this stuff though.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
He's absolutely shameless. Can you play that last line again, Mario?

Speaker 6 (22:18):
I dislike more than the politician that sits there and
lies to you, and we all just sit there, rolling
our eyes, going, give me a break. So as it
relates to that, there's nothing on the right. I'm focused
on Prop fifty. I'm focusing on fair, free elections and
to the extent fate the future.

Speaker 5 (22:36):
There's an alignment. You have a big enough why, you
have a what and a how.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
You need a moment, and that moment presents itself in
a year, year and a half, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
That's very poetic.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
What the hell does all that mean? There's a what
and a why and how moment, and there's a moment there.
If I can find the moment, I'll run up and
need it. Oh man, she kept going. Christian Welker asked Newshom, Well,

(23:11):
what is your why?

Speaker 4 (23:15):
If you're thinking about it, that why must be forming.

Speaker 7 (23:18):
No, well, if you decide to run, why would you want.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
To do it? Well?

Speaker 6 (23:25):
I haven't decided, and I appreciate the persistence is their.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
Licenss and I respect it.

Speaker 6 (23:33):
I think, whoever runs, And this is just my objective
belief subjective, but I hope it's objective for a lot
of Americans.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Wait, wait, stop there, it's my objective belief. No, it's
my subjective belief, but I hope it's my objective belief.
See when he's this is his Achilles hill, heel or
his glass draw? How everyone a phrase it? He cannot
myntaneously answer questions, but he.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
Keeps talking because, for whatever reason, he thinks the more
he says, the smarter he's going to sound.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
And maybe Eventually he'll run into an answer or or
the question will forget what the question was. Continue with that.

Speaker 6 (24:15):
I think whoever runs, and this is just my objective belief, subjective,
but I hope it's objective for a lot of Americans.

Speaker 5 (24:25):
It reminds me of little of Isaiah. You need to
be a repair of the breach spiritually and physically. But
it's not just about restoration.

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Forces a restoration, it's also forces a transformation. And what
I mean by that is, what are the trend lines
that define the future? You know, I'm here, I'm We're
in the future business. I'm here in California. Future happens
here first, where America is coming, attraction on artificial intelligence, fusion,
quantum robotics, nuclear space. California dominates in every critical category.

(24:56):
I worry about the future work. I worry about the
announcement from Amazon. I worry about earnings going up, profits skyrocking,
and headcount going down, meaning less and less people having
access and opportunities. I think whoever runs has to paint
a vision for the future, a journey that we can
be on together. That's not just about growth, but about inclusion,

(25:18):
issues of debt and entitlement, issues around energy, and I
still believe in climate issues.

Speaker 5 (25:22):
All those issues need.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
To be front center eventually for whoever is a nominee
of our party.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
Oh my god, what's bigger than a word salad? I
mean that was the whole farm he threw in there.

Speaker 7 (25:37):
What about my gas prices?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
I get right? What about the gas prices? What about
the electricity prices? He's talking about all this high tech
stuff for robotics and quantum physics and quantum computing, whatever
the hell he was saying that people can't buy food
and make it through the week. They don't have enough

(25:59):
to fill their with gas. They have ordinary jobs. If
they have those jobs that were leaders in, that's great.
You're getting well into the six figures. I mean a
couple of years ago, the average Facebook engineer was making
three hundred and eight ninety eight thousand dollars and it's
probably a lot more than that now. They were they
were There were people I think at Meta being hired,

(26:22):
you know, for the AI revolution, and they were getting
baseball sized contracts like they were sho hee otani. Yeah,
they were. They were getting tens of millions of dollars
for long term contracts. Those people are going to do
fine with all this AI, robotics, quantum computing explosion that's coming.

(26:43):
None of that is going to help a guy in
a two bedroom house in the suburbs who's got to
pay five bucks a gallon for gas and whose electricity
is double that of a lot of states. All right,
I got another, I got another whopper coming up. Meet

(27:07):
the Press, Kristen, Welcome. We'll play this in the next segment.
Newsom asked if he misled people about Biden. Remember Newsom
was the last guy insisting that Biden was not s Nile.
We'll play this one when we come back. Also after
three o'clock, Joel Pollock, he is gonna come on with

(27:29):
us because there's a new media outlet that's gonna be
opening up in California, the California Post. This is gonna
be a sister publication of the New York Post, and
he's the opinion editor of the California Post. It's not
online yet, it will be very soon. We're going to

(27:50):
talk to Joel about that and also talk about Newsom
as well.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
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Speaker 2 (28:00):
John Cobell Show, and we have Joel Pollack coming on.
Joel Pollack is the new opinion editor of the California Post.
What is the California Post. Well, it's the sister publication
of the New York Post. It is not online yet
but will be soon early twenty twenty six, and it
will be a New York I imagine we last Joel,

(28:21):
a New York Post style daily newspaper online that will
be going after what's happening in California from here to Sacramento.
And this state needs something like a New York Post
attitude desperately from somebody of the media, because everybody else

(28:43):
is just a kiss ass. So we'll get to that.
I got one more clip and this is one of
my favorites here. Kristen Welker on Meet the Press had
Gavin Newsom on and she pressed him on whether he
misled people about Biden's senility. Listen to this clip. It's

(29:05):
about a minute, but pay attention to the end.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
Did you legitimately believe that he was capable of serving
as president until January of twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:15):
I think my focus was frankly situational. It was making
sure Donald Trump didn't get back into office to experience
everything that we're experiencing today, And there was no interaction
I had that suggested otherwise.

Speaker 4 (29:27):
What do you say to Americans listen who feel misled
by you and other.

Speaker 5 (29:33):
Talk despect He decided.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
About the mental acuity of President Biden that they wish
you'd sound of the alarm sooner to give way for
open convention.

Speaker 6 (29:43):
I'm not going to substitute myself for someone else or
for popular opinion.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
I'm going to express my relationship to.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
My truth with the present former president of the United States,
including at the end of his term quite literally in December,
which was a masterclass of foreign policy and domestic policy,
which I will never forget as we walk through not
just the election, but we're walking through the world we're
living in. There was nothing to suggest what you just
said or or others have suggested in terms of my interaction.

Speaker 5 (30:16):
That's all I can be accountable for.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
What did he say about truth? Mario Ca'd find that
line again. I don't know what that means. This is
very Kamala Harris, Like this whole interview, Just what we
needed is a male Kamala Harris from California. Measure what
everybody in the country thinks with these two. Play that again.
Can you never experience I'm not.

Speaker 6 (30:42):
Going to substitute myself for someone else? What that me
or for popular opinion? I'm going to wait for us there.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
I'm not going to substitute myself for someone else or
for popular opinion.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
No idea.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
That is like throwing scrabble words up in the air
and they all fall down and you get a random
sentence out of him. We'll play it again, well, was
the next thing?

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Or for popular opinion?

Speaker 6 (31:08):
I'm going to express my relationship to my truth with
the present former president the United States.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Stop stop, I'm going to express my relationship my truth,
my relationship to my truth or.

Speaker 7 (31:24):
Was it my truth to my relationship?

Speaker 2 (31:26):
You back that up again.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
I'm going to express my relationship to my truth the former.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Presidentity, my relationship to my truth with the former president
of the United States. What could that possibly mean? What
was he speaking in code to somebody?

Speaker 7 (31:50):
What does he like to say? Deflect, deflate, conflate? But
I don't know cross, But it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Is I don't know what the point of what he
was saying is or was I just gives me a headache. Yeah,
it's gonna be very exciting him running for president. I
hope he and Kamal will run.

Speaker 7 (32:16):
I think they're going to be on the ticket together.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
When we come back, Joel Pollock's coming on. Joel Pollack
worked for Breitbart for years and he is now the
opinion editor for the California Post, which is the New
York sister publication, which is coming online very soon, and
boy is it needed in this media waste land here
in California. We'll talk to Joel coming up in minute. Hey,

(32:41):
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