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The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (12/17) - Katy Grimes from CaliforniaGlobe.com joins the show to talk about California's economic problems.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:44):
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(01:05):
anyway you can hear all that in the two o'clock hour. Now,
we got Katie Grimes on Katie californiaglobe dot com, and
she writes so much about all the dysfunction and just
all the criminality and theft going on in Sacramento government.
And she's got a new piece out a couple of
things this week on the eighteen billion dollar deficit and

(01:27):
how California has a number of financially high risk state
agencies according to the Legislative State Auditor. Let's get to
let's get to Katie. How are you, Katie?

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Hi? John doing well? I'm doing better than our state is.
How's that?

Speaker 3 (01:46):
Yeah, it's really a mess.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
And if you go to californiaglobe dot com and read
some of these articles, and we are we got a
tide of red ink coming to sweep us away. An
eighteen billion dollar budget deficit that's up five billion dollars.
And this is from the Legislative Analyst Office, which is nonpartisan.

(02:10):
And a lot of this has to do with illegal
alien healthcare, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Yeah, jes Gavin Newsom even had to finally admit that
the medical system which he opened up to every illegal
alien in the state is insolvent and had to go
back to the legislature to do something about it. As
for the eighteen billion dollar budget deficit, I would venture

(02:35):
to say that's going to be adjusted up. Also, there's
no way it's only eighteen billions, but it's still eighteen
billion and it sounds horrible. I think the thing though
this week, or it was actually released on Friday, the
California State Auditor issue to report, and in it they
named eight California state agencies as high risk and that

(03:00):
within those agencies, in order to be designated, such waste, fraud, abuse,
and mismanagement must be present. So this is how our
state agencies are being run. And we're not just talking
some obscure, little funny agency in the corner somewhere. This
is the California Department of Social Services, which is stunning

(03:22):
because that's where all of the overpayment fraud takes place
on the Snap Benefits what we used to call food stamps,
and that's just one gross nightmare of a program to
begin with. It's going to get worse because the federal
government is cutting off a lot of our Snap benefits.
So either the state's going to have to make it up,

(03:44):
which means higher taxes for us, or they're going to
have to finally address the fraud in the program and
cut people off.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Is that why the federal government is cutting off some
of the money is because of suspected fraud.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yes, it is exactly why. And I warned State about this.
They've warned them about cleaning up this mess, you know.
I mean, like just like our voter rolls, there's dead
people on Snap benefits.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
So yeah, well people, I guess, huh yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
No kidding. Yeah, they're eating a lot of Freeto's and
drinking a lot of cokes.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
So are these people who are not qualified? Who are are?

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well? I guess you just fill out the forums and
you get you get the free money or you get
the free EBT cards.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
That's pretty much how it works anecdotally. But I have
had this story told to me so many times I
can't tell you. At grocery stores, employees there will tell
you exactly who shows up in a tesla and hands
over their EBT card to pay for the groceries. That
happens all the time. People show up in porschas and yeah,
you name it, and they laugh at the rest of

(04:50):
us because we're paying for it.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Do you know if these people are wealthy people or
are they poor people?

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Comar Yeah, And I've been told some are quite wealthy
and this is just their few to everybody.

Speaker 1 (05:07):
They're wealthy and they're scamming the food stamp system.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I know, you've got to be a real special
piece of work to do that. Huh. I think the
other agency that just kind of stunned me that was
named as high risk is the California Department of Finance.
And this might make people's eyes glaze over, Oh wow,
the Department of Finance, except that this department solely serves

(05:31):
the governor. They only answer to him, and they are
high risk.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
And what's the Finance Department do all day? Like, what's
their role?

Speaker 2 (05:42):
This is what makes it so delicious. They are the
governor's chief fiscal policy advisor.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
They only work for him, and they're out of money too.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Well, they're just high risk. There's waste, fraud, abuse, and
or mismanagement going on in the California Department of Finance,
the State Controller's Office. This thought it make you feel safe.
The State Controller's Office is listed as a high risk agency.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
This is like a casino with no management and no
guards and no police.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
You got it.

Speaker 1 (06:17):
Everybody everybody's just accessing the system and running out with
large amounts of money. If there was an investigation like
they're having in Minnesota regarding the Somalis who stole money
from the welfare agencies. I can't imagine what they'd find.
Is anybody looking into this, Well.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
I do believe so. And we've written about the fraud
and abuse inside of our welfare agencies and said it's
you know, it's probably ten times worse than Minnesota's. We're
a much larger state and we have many, many more
illegal aliens living here who are receiving benefits from the
state government. So yeah, it's all there.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Can you hang on When I come back, I want
to talk about all the terrible uh, all the terrible
numbers that describe just how bad the California economy is,
just the number of people leaving, the unemployment rate. I mean,
it is bad stuff, and it's not getting much attention
outside of you. Seriously, you're the only only place I

(07:23):
find out about this stuff.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
We'll talk more.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
It's a lot of fun over here.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well if you.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Don't do it seriously, if you weren't doing this, it
would be it would be zero information out there. So
we're gonna talk more at Katie Grimes californiaglobe dot com. Really,
you should read that site.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
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iHeartRadio app. We continue with Katie Grimes at californiaglobe dot com,

(08:12):
which is the only place to learn a lot about
all the all the incompetence and corruption going on in
Sacramento under Gavin Newsom and the Democratic legislature. And she's
reporting this week not only about the eighteen billion dollar
budget deficit, but how the California Auditor has declared a

(08:35):
number of state agencies being at high risk because of
all the fraud and waste and abuse.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
And the financial situation they're in.

Speaker 1 (08:44):
And let's get Katie back on Katie in this story,
which if you're looking for it at the headline is
eighteen billion dollar deficit, high risk state agencies record outmigration.
I want to talk about the out migration we've had
Joel Katkin on a number of times, and he is
a researcher and a demographer, and he wrote that affluent

(09:08):
young professionals are migrating out of the state.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
Yes, big numbers talk talk about that.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Yeah. Well, I mean, he's the one that had figured
out that it's over four million people have left California
since since the year two thousand. That's a chunk of people.
But are young people who are getting getting educated, college educated,
and they look around and go, huh, I think I
can actually afford to buy a house and pay off

(09:36):
my student loans in South Carolina and get a high
tech job. I mean, they're going everywhere but here. I mean,
I've got a kid who doesn't live in California. It
is stunning going on. I had three of those yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Out, Yeah, I mean, I mean you can't.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
They can't afford to live here while they're starting out,
while they're in there in their twenties.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's possible.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
No, no, it's it's outrageous. And and he does the
best work by far on, you know, maintaining the stats
on this, and it doesn't look good at all for
our future. You've got to have the youth coming into
the workforce in your state. In order, and instead Gavin
Newsom's backfilled it with illegal aliens.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
That's why the total population hasn't gone down that much.
Four million have left, but how many millions of illegal
aliens replaced them?

Speaker 3 (10:30):
Almost four million?

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Yeah, exactly, And it's deliberate. This is I've heard it
spoken aloud before. That is the plan. And unfortunately those
of us who are still here. And I'm here because
I do believe this state can be saved if we
can get rid of people like Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
But why do you think that's there for it? Why
do you think that's their plan?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
The amount of tax revenue when when when hundreds of
thousands of young, educated professionals leave, and then the financial
burden if they're replaced by illegal aliens. Why would you
do that? What is the upside for all the Democrats here?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Well, I think there's two things going on. Number One,
our best and brightest are not serving in our California legislature.
There certainly are some outstanding people, but they're on the
right side of the island. There's too few of them.
So there's people who really don't get it, and they
really don't care. They're there for themselves and whatever single

(11:29):
issue is important to them. Then there's the others that
think destabilizing California is a great idea because that's where
we're headed. They're all for it.

Speaker 1 (11:38):
And what's the upside of the destabilizing a forty million
person state.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
They think it's power and control. There's so burn it down,
but we own it. It's evil, It's pure evil.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Quoting Kotkin is saying that two hundred thousand migrants twenty
five or older in age, the bulk of whom had
either four year or associate degrees, and they've moved to Nevada, Arizona, Texas, Florida,
and the Carolinas. The numbers are surging for that demographic
in those states.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah, even they want jobs and more affordable places to live.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
And then we've got the unemployment rate five point six percent,
that is thirty percent higher than the national average. Number
one in the country, five point six percent.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Right, we're always number one for the bad stuff. Number
one for unemployment, number one for outmigration, Number one for
the most poverty in the country, number one for the
most homeless, Number one bot you, I'll say, number fifty
for the worst schools, the lowest reading rates, the lowest
math scores. We're never we're never number one for anything
good anymore.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
And you know, you publish the unemployment rates for all
the states, and I look at comparable states, even states
that are considered you know, very liberal, like New York
have a significantly lower unemployment.

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Rate like this.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
It's that interesting.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Yeah, it's not just the political climate, but the state
is run so badly and there's so many lunatic policies
that even other left wing states don't have.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Yeah, exactly, we're core number one in that too. Yeah,
every policy that's being passed these days is to the
detriment of the future of our state.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
And then you look at other large states like Texas
at a four point one unemployment rate, Florida three point nine.
So you take comparable states in the class of California
either when it comes to to politics or size, and
they're doing far better. We're worth thirty to forty percent
higher and unemployment, right, And.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Texas and Florida also had a pretty significant mass you know,
immigrant migration into their states, so that's probably accounts for some.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Of that, and it's hardly reported on outside I know,
And what do you think that is?

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well? I made a crass remark earlier today when talking
to someone else that I wrote this so that even
the slow kids in the mainstream media could figure it
out and maybe write about it too. There's just no interest.
Nobody will sit down and look at these numbers. And
I admit, I'm a writer, I am not a numbers person.
But the state did it for me. The auditor did
it for me, the legislative analysts did it for me,

(14:35):
and the Bureau of Labor Statistics did it for me.

Speaker 3 (14:37):
These, yes, these are all the state's numbers. This is
nothing that you have concocted.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Not at all. I didn't have to get out my calculator.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
I look at the gas you know, every couple of days,
I read the gas prices state by state around the country. Yeah,
and so we're at right now four thirty five something
like that.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Alcohoma's at two thirty. The nastal average is too.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
There's like, well, I don't know thirty five states that
are under three bucks. That alone, because people see that
obnoxious gas price every day right every half mile there,
that alone should cause a political upheaval.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
And it doesn't.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, exactly. And we've been writing about the oil and
gas crisis in the state. How it's not only a
national security risk because we can't manufacture enough of our
own jet fuel for our military installations, but we're looking
at eight to twelve dollars a gallon in the very
near future. And silence, just silence coming from this administration

(15:39):
and frankly for most of the mainstream media.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, and that's why I'm puzzled by the lack of
reaction from regular citizens. I mean, there's a lot of
politicians that have lost their jobs. You remember in France
a few years ago, the Yellow vest riots, they started
fires everywhere because of a gas price increase.

Speaker 2 (16:00):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
You don't need the media, and you don't need the government.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
You need you need just people using their eyes and
seeing why the hell is it you know, four point
fifty here. Of course they don't know it's two fifty
in Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
Yeah, that's part of the problem.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Well, I just published today the Top fifty Disasters. Governor
Gavin Newsom has ushered into California the twenty twenty five editions,
So we've got a lot of that listed.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Yes, I saw that.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but
I will delve into that tomorrow on the show. Thank
you for coming up.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Okay, you bet. John's good to be with you, all right.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
Katie Grimes californiaglobe dot com really one of a kind. Unfortunately,
when it comes to media coverage of the disaster and Sacramento,
you know, eventually everything will collapse and everyone's going to
wake up.

Speaker 4 (16:48):
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Speaker 3 (17:14):
And then you could see those. Now I see the
segments showll be notified when we post new ones. We're
just on with Katie Grimes from californiaglobe dot com. I
cannot recommend that website enough if you want to find
out what a disaster the state government is and Gavin
Newsom is. Because it's costing you a lot of money,

(17:36):
it is really ruining your quality of life, and there
is a blackout on news coverage of Sacramento for most
of the main media sources, certainly all the television stations
and nearly all the radio stations and the internet at
news sites, the old mainstream media sites like La Times.

(18:01):
La Times actually covers the state issues very little. And
I'm not talking.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
About state politics. I'm talking about these nasty, damaging policies
that have been put in place over the years. This
is not inside baseball stuff. This is and we talked
about the gas prices, and I'm just going to keep
telling you well how awful the gas price situation is,
because this is.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
A one of a kind situation in the whole nation.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
And the average price in this country now for a
gallon of gas is two dollars ninety cents.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
That's average. That includes California.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
And I mentioned to Katie that is off the top
of my head, I guess maybe there's probably thirty five
states under three dollars a gallon. It's actually thirty eight states.
Thirty eight states are selling gas under three bucks. And again,
compare it to similar states, states similar in size or
similar political philosophy. Let's look at left wing states, states

(19:00):
like Massachusetts right so famous for its taxes, its nickname
is Taxachusetts. Their gas prices are two ninety nine two
ninety nine in Massachusetts. New Jersey I can testify I
grew up there, high tech state two ninety one for
gas in New Jersey. Let's see New York. I lived

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there as well, threeh eight above the national average, but
not the four thirty four that we're paying in California.
And then you look at well, Illinois, Illinois is pretty
left wing the government. They're at three zho two. That's
a dollar thirty less. Let me see what else here?
And then I'm looking for the big states. Well, Texas

(19:44):
two fifty two, two fifty two.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
What's wrong with.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
The governor of Texas that he's got gas in two
fifty two? Why? Why is he a bad guy? Why
is it so bad to be in Texas? Florida another one,
DeSantis two ninety three, Why is that bad? And then
the champion is Oklahoma at two thirty three two thirty
three A gallon Arkansas is two forty seven, Iowa's two

(20:11):
forty seven, Colorado's two forty nine. And notice that's all
different parts of the country. You've got the South in Arkansas.
You've got Iowa in the Midwest, you've got Colorado in
the Rocky Mountains. So it's not even a regional thing.
It's California. And then this story also, well this one's
from Bloomberg. You've probably heard that we lost the Phillips

(20:34):
sixty six refinery in October. It got shut down in Wilmington.
The Valero Energy Company is shutting its Benetia refinery in April.
So we're down to seven refineries. In two year two thousand,
we had forty three refineries. Now we've got seven, all

(20:57):
because of California regulation in Texas, that's why they shut down.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
And Newsome is counting on increased imports.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Now remember he did this and his claim was, oh,
I gotta fight climate change. Now we're using the same
amount of gas in California. There's been no reduction in
how much gas and oil we use. So now instead
of producing it here and we're fining it here, we're
buying it from all kinds of unpleasant countries. Yeah, places

(21:26):
like Iraq and Saudi Arabia, and then it has to
be shipped on a tanker here. Now they have no
environmental laws in these countries and oil tankers in the ocean.
There's even more emissions coming, you know, from the ships.
And the thing is Bloomberg says, it's a wave of
refinery closures as the state shifts away from fossil fuels.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Except we're not. We're not shifting away.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And now the electrical the electric vehicle mandate was thrown
out by the Trump administration, and just in time, because
we were going to be forced to buy expensive electric
vehicles and there's no electrical grid to support them. All
you'd end up with is blackouts. So Valero is shutting down.
Newsom is now panicking and he wants to turn the

(22:15):
Valero site into a storage hub for all the oil
coming from overseas.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
You got this. He forced the closure of.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
This place with his excessive regulations and taxes. And now
that Valera is leaving, it's like, well, can we use
it to store the oil that we have to buy
from all the foreign countries. And the mayor doesn't want it.
It's twenty seven thousand people. Venetia, with twenty seven thousand people,
needed the refinery for the jobs and the taxes. And

(22:46):
since Valero is closing, he wants to redevelop the site.
Attract a new industry, or at least fill it with
retail and housing, something that's going to create tax revenue,
something that's going to provide jobs for the people who
are out of work now because Newsom did. The mayor
here Steve Young says, we're going to put up whatever
resistance we can making the site of fuel storage job

(23:09):
is a terrible situation. There are no jobs, there are
no taxes with it because it's just tanks filled with
oil and you have continuous emissions from tankers. So Benisha
is now a disaster. It had a thriving industry. Everybody
had jobs, they had a great tax base, and the
whole city's financial situation has been blown up and the

(23:30):
lives of the people working there have been blown up
as well by Newsom's policies. And he was frantically trying
to get some oil company somewhere in the world to
buy it, and nobody would and the reason they don't
want to lose money. In fact, you know what, Volero
is taking a billion dollar loss just to close this place.

(23:51):
Can you imagine a billion dollar loss? Newsome bet on
electric vehicles, except nobody likes them, and it's so bad
when we come back. I'm going to tell you how
much the Ford Motor Company has lost on electric vehicles.
It's a staggering vehicle. They tried to be the leaders

(24:13):
in evs for the past five years and nobody would
buy the cars. And when I tell you how much
money they blew, how much of loss they've got to
write off, Now you're going to be staggered. It's their
own fault. They should have told this whole green movement
to go screw themselves, and should should have told the

(24:37):
Biden administration, for example, to stuff it, because all they
did is they blew nineteen billion dollars and nobody wanted
the cars. I'll tell you about the Ford Motor Company
we come back. It's going to go down in history
as one of the biggest botches by a government and
buy an industry.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
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Speaker 1 (24:59):
Six forty Moistline for Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty
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talkback feature on the iHeart app and the podcast will
be shortly after four o'clock. And we covered the non
indictment as it turned out of Nick Reiner. It's been

(25:22):
postponed to January seventh, and we had Royal Oaks on
from ABC News and we discussed all the different variations
of pleas that Reiner may make, and the type of
defenses centered around his state of mind is actually too
vega term whether he was insane or not, whether his

(25:46):
brain function was compromised either but mental illness or drugs,
and what the various sentences would be if these defenses
actually worked. So it was interesting stuff with Royal Oaks
he should listen to. And two o'clock hour we discussed
some fascinating stuff.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Karen Bass told some truth.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
She was on a podcast and thought the podcast was
over and they kept rolling the video and then she started.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
She started being candid all.

Speaker 1 (26:18):
Of a sudden for the first time that I can remember,
and of course she wants wanted it cut out when
it was posted on YouTube, but La Times somehow got
a hold of it, and we discussed that at length
coming up, and also the incredible lies she continues to
tell and the proofs that there lies regarding the fires.
At two o'clock hour, Royal Looks and the one o'clock

(26:40):
hour on Nick Reiner, and just to finish up here.

Speaker 3 (26:43):
I was telling you about.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
The disastrous effect that Newsom has had on the oil
and gas industry. We're going to be down to seven refineries.
Another one is closing very soon in Bonetia, and that
town is going to be thousands of people out of work.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
Huge hit to the tax base.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
Ford Motor Company finally surrendered on electric vehicles on Monday.
They announced they were writing down a nineteen and a
half billion dollar loss, most of it from the EV business,
which has been a huge failure. They are now going
to redirect their money from Bloomberg from the National Review

(27:29):
calls the EV money pit to models that are more
likely to turn a profit. That means models that people
want to buy and drive. Maybe more hybrids. Maybe they
should have placed a bigger bet on hybrids and not
on the pure EV.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
What a disaster. Jim Farley is the CEO of Ford.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Instead of plowing billions into the future knowing these large
evs will never make money, we are pivoting. They are
getting rid of It's f one fifty electric pickup truck
known as the Lightning where that was unveiled with a
lot of a lot of hoopla. Total bust they scrapped
all the manufacturing an EV battery factoring in Kentucky no more.

(28:13):
They're going to turn it into a battery storage business.
The campaign against gas powered cars started in the late
two thousands, and Obama tried hard, promising a goal of
a million EV's on the road by twenty fifteen. He
missed by over six hundred thousand. People have never wanted these. Biden,

(28:34):
of course, tried to force EV's massive tax credit, backed
up Newsom's electric vehicle mandate where we're all supposed to
be buying evs entirely by twenty thirty five. In fact,
this coming year, I think it was going to kick in.
I think they were expecting over a third of the
sales to be evs. Not that people wanted them, but

(28:56):
they were going to rig the market so that you
almost had to buy one or be really really expensive
not to.

Speaker 3 (29:02):
And finally Trump got.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Elected, and I don't care what you think about Trump,
that saved a disaster, because if we were all forced
to buy electric cars, it would be a very short
time before everybody would realize there's no electric grid to
supply electricity to the electric vehicles. We have a pretty

(29:25):
crappy electric grid, especially in the summertime, and no way,
no way impossible it was going to handle electric vehicles.
They's simply not enough electricity being generated, not even close.
It would have been such a disaster. We would have
been living in blackout land every day. Not to mention

(29:46):
there's relatively few EV chargers around. So it was a terrible, stupid,
stupid policy on the part of Newsom. And you may
hate it, but you should be happy that Trump got
rid of that mandatory E program because it would have
been such a disaster. Here, all right, we're done. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You

(30:08):
can always hear the show live on KFI AM six
forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday,
and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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