August 28, 2025 • 35 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (08/28) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. Joe Khalil from NewsNation comes on the show to talk about the CDC director being fired and fighting back. Draining the swamp is hard. Update on the DC federal employee who threw a sandwich at federal agents in DC.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
It's the John Cobelt Show. Lou Penrose in for John
Cobelt this week. Good to have you along with us.
A departure will an attempt to dismiss the director of
the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. CDC Director Susan
Manarez was fired by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And she's refusing to go, she says.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
According to her lawyers, she refuses to rubber stamp unscientific,
reckless directives from her superior. The White House has responded
that she was not aligned with the president's agenda and
she's the head of the CDC. Joe Khalil is with
News Nation. He's there, DC correspondent. Is she still there?
I mean, you cannot refuse to go, So, Joe, what's
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she going to do? Just lock herself in her office?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah? Hey, Lou, No, I mean she has gone.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
The situation was that she was fired and it was
apparently announced by Health and Human Services. Her attorneys said
she can only be fired by the president because she
was a presidential appointing nominee, and then she had to
be sentate confirmed and so that was sort of the
discrepancy her legal team made. But since that that pushback
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from her legal team, the president has announced it. The
White House came down with that announcement, so she is
she is officially gone, and she's already actually been replaced
by an acting director. Now, all right, so.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
There's somebody running the CDC. That's good to know.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
This notion though, that she is she refused to rubber
stamp what she thought were reckless directives.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, everybody has a boss, and you you have to.
I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Certainly you can share your thoughts and opinions, but at
the end of the day, your job is to do
what the boss wants you to do. And her boss
is the director of the the cabinet member for Health
and Human Services who works for the President. So this
is not an ordinary that you would have to do
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what the agenda is of the White House.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, And that's what happens is sometimes you butt heads
with the person who runs the agency, and if you
have serious, you know, moral objections, then usually we see
one of two things. You see somebody resign uh in
protest in their own principle, and sometimes they you know,
they're forced out, and so that sort of is what happened.
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They came to a head today. She has what she
she says are serious objections to Secretary Kennedy r F
K Junior's vaccine policies. And what her attorneys have said
we haven't heard from her directly, but we've heard from
her through her attorneys, is she felt like there were
some vaccines that the medical community, she says, has accepted
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as safe and effective. Part of it was a COVID vaccine,
there were some others that, she says, the Secretary has
been trying and working to get rid of the approval
for those and if you revoke the approval for those vaccines,
what happens is, you know, they're no longer on the
schedule that CDC recommended for kids. That might mean that
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your health insurance all of a sudden might not cover
those vaccines, because oftentimes they just take whatever the CDC recommends.
And she and what several others in the CDC have
said now is they feel like they those policies would
be putting kids or vulnerable populations at risk, and so
for that reason, they were seriously butting heads. So she
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quit and the others who I'm talking about. There were
three other high ranking CDC officials also decided to quit,
sort of in protest and in solidarity with her with
the former director.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now, well, anybody that's followed the career of Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, way before politics, way before Trump, back in
the day when he was a Democrat and Democrats liked him.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
He has been.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Talking about the amount of vaccinations that have been added
in the eighties, the tremendous increase of vaccinations that have
been added to the schedule in the eighties. I mean,
that's anybody that would apply for the job that would
stand to be nominated as the director of CDC. It
is impossible that she could not have been aware of
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where Robert F. Kennedy Junior was on that issue. And
you're applying for a job that puts you directly under him.
How can you be nominated, be confirmed by the Senate,
go to work, and then complain that Kennedy is very
concerned about the amount of vaccines that have been added
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to the schedule.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I'd really love
to hear from doctor Mana and see if she had
any Inkling beforehand, because it was pretty obvious. I mean,
he had been very clear and actually she'd only been
in the job for a month before you know, this
came to a head. But even before she became the
CDC director, I mean, he had already fired the entire
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vaccination board that that is supposed to sort of go through,
you know, the safety protocol for vaccines, and he replaced
them with people who view the vaccine issue closer to
how he views it. So there were definitely signs. And
I mean, again, it's been no secret that you know,
he is he has raised suspicion about certain vaccines. So
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I think it's a fair question that you bring up
to ask that, you know, maybe she very likely knew
some of these things in his stances before she was
even nominated to be CDC director. Maybe she thought her
input could change some hearts and minds within the within
the department, within the agency. I don't know. It's it's again,
I think the pretty fair question you post.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, it strikes me as bad vetting to be perfectly
honest with you, because she didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
She could have said that we have professional disagreements.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
There's professional disagreements, respectfully, respect professional disagreements about the science
here at the CDC. So it's best that I allow
the agenda of this administration move forward and step out
of its way. That would have been a statement that
would allowed her.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
To exist, you know, in the in the professional world.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now she looks like somebody that was trying to stop
what Kennedy was trying to do, somebody that was trying
to stop what Trump was trying to do. When she
talks about reckless directives and she refused to be a
rubber stamp for unscientific directives, that's belligerent.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm I don't want to
you know again, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
To put you on the spot, but I mean it's
it's right, But it's it does sound I get it,
you're the correspondent. It just it's it seems it's almost
it almost sounds like if you didn't know anybody, you
would have thought that she was a holdover from a
previous administration.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And I mean several of the CDC officials were actually
that resigned today. Some of them were from previous administrations too,
actually that you know, we're doing the work and just
had what they describe as serious moral objections to changing
the vaccine schedule and potentially revoking the approval of some
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vaccines that they said, you know, we're we're just we're
going to resign. It seems like they had some confidence
in her that perhaps she could steer the department in
a different direction. I can tell you there are some Republicans,
and the first one that comes to mind is Senator
Bill Cassidy. He is the Republican chairman of the Senate
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Health Committee who actually does have concerns about this whole
thing too, and he said just yesterday night that this
deserves oversight in his views. So what that means is,
you know, they could probably probe this. You know, he
was a big advocate for uh doctor Manares to be
elevated to the role of director. I think, you know,
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there may be some questions there, and we may learn
more about how this came about, what the internal discussions were,
Did she have the secretary's ear, did she not? These
are things that we don't know, you know, these are
things that we'd like to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I think we'll know more in the next couple of days,
especially when we learn more about who the acting director
is and who will be nominated to be the replacement.
Jokalu with News Nation, DC correspondent. Always good to catch
up with you. Thanks so much for coming in and
h and filling us in on this one. So this
is the way it works in Washington, d C. It
is very, very difficult to get rid of staff. And
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that sounds crazy. You can win the White House and
you think you're in charge, but you're really not in charge.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You're not you.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You are presiding over a disc functional executive branch and
it takes hard work to drain that swamp. And here
you have a CDC director who doesn't like the Director
of Health and Human Services and says, Adam.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'm not leaving, and she actually has to be forced out.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And then she gets forced out and she, you know,
leaves a nasty note saying I'm not gonna take reckless
directives and rubber stamp unscientific directives.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
This is how hard it is.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It really is like pulling a tooth to get some
of the swamp creatures out of a job in DC.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'll tell you all about it coming up next.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
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on KFI AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
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So the CDC director fired by the Trump administra. She says,
you can't fire me, only the president can fire me.
And then the President said, all right, you're fired, and
then she left, but not without saying all kinds of
mean things about Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who is her boss.
(10:14):
I'm not surprised at this. Of course, this makes an
hysterical story. Right immediately the media runs with it that well,
here it is, here's good Bording America ABC.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
The CDC right now is in chaos. The White House
says they've fired the new director, Susan Monterez, after a
tense confrontation with HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, in
which he insisted that she commit to his changes to
vaccine policy and.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Tried to pressure her.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
See this is why you don't do that, right, because
that's the way it winds up on TV chaos at
the CDC. She refuses to commit to Robert F. Kennedy's vision.
Let me explain to you how this works. The President
of the United States is the head of the exactecutive
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branch of government. Everything that goes on in the executive
branch of government is and ought to be an extension
of the vision.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Of the administration that he oversees.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It should properly be the way he wants it in
every form. Every cabinet reports to the president. The Secretary
of Defense, the Secretary of Interior, the Secretary of Health
and Human Services, the Secretary of whatever. They are handpicked
by the president, nominated and then confirmed by the United
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States Senate.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So their job is to do what the president wants.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So everybody that works at those agencies, and there are
thousands and thousands of government employees.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
When they talk about the swamp, that's the swamp.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Not Kennedy, not the director of the CDC, although she
acts pretty swampy, but the hundreds and hundreds of people
that work under them that are lifers, people that have
lifetime career jobs at the federal government. And they all
have attitude problems. They're all see students with attitude problems.
They all know that you're president for four years. You
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can huff and puff, but we're not changing the way
we do things and will resist any changes and fight
back because we know that you just don't want bad
headlines and you want to get reelected or you want
to keep the House, So you're not going to make
a big deal about this and will survive and you won't,
and we're just going to get pay increases and cost
of living increases and go home to our homes in Alexandria,
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Virginia and vote Democrat.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's the swamp.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That is what the President of the United States ultimately
presides over.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Each and every day.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Every president gets elected and they think they're in charge,
and they're not.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They're really not. There are presiding over.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
A swamp of lifers who are see students and who
are petulant, belligerent government bureaucrats. So real change requires real change.
Real change requires real change. And if you really want
to change Washington, you have to go hard at these people.
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You say, do exactly what I said. You may very
well call rubber stamping. You do exactly what I said,
or get your crap and get out of here and
take your staff with you and all your sympathizers in
the break room, all of you get out. I'd rather
have none of you working here than the constantly argue
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with you. And that's the way the president is running
this cabinet.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I knew he was going.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
To have problems at the Department of Health and Human Services,
and that's why I was very glad that Kennedy was there.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And this is a case in point. Look at this woman.
She's not in charge.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It is not up to her, who in Washington has
spent more time studying vaccines and the impact that they're
having on our children and our families and our.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Health and our culture than Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You can disagree, but guess what, he's the director of
the Health and Human Services and you're not. So it's
his way, which is exactly the way the president wants it,
and that is the way the administration needs to be run.
That's certainly the way the executive branch should be run.
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So she's got to go, and I guess she didn't
want She wouldn't go quietly. And a bunch of other
people quit too.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
To resign.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
But this morning, Susan Monaz isn't going without a fight.
She's refusing to leave.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You're refusing to leave, lady, get lost.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean I don't know what you think is gonna
happen all one quick to hr and you will not
be issued a paycheck.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So I don't know what you think you do it.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
She's refusing to leave. Her lawyers say the notification she
received is quote legally deficient and that only the president
himself can fire her. And she's not the only one
protesting Overnight.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
At least four other.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Top CDC officials quitting on mass, including the CDC's chief
medical officer and the director of the Immunization Center.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
See, most presidents would not want that on Good Morning
America because then everyone's to say, hey, a lot of
top officials, let the CDC. The CDC is in chaos.
What if there's a pandemic or something big goes on.
We're not prepared. What's going on. They don't know what
they're doing over there. This president like that. Normally, most
administrations and most politicians would worry about that story. President
Trump could care less. You could repeat that story all
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week on Good Morning America.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Who cares? She is the problem? She is the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Anybody that gets fired and says I'm not going to leave,
you don't want that bach.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Working for you.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know that all my listeners that are in business,
you know the exact type of person I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You're fired. I'm not leaving, oh boy. But I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
This is the swamp and I'm not surprised it's happening
at Health and Human Services.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
There's going to be more of this. I'm glad that
the President should firm.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I'm glad he's empowering Kennedy to get rid of the
people that are not advancing the vision that this administration has.
I knew that it was going to be I knew
the VACS thing was going to be a problem, but
I'm glad that they stood firm. The other two areas
where I think there's going to be problems is Medicare
and the defense budget.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Those are two other.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Areas where there are huge swamp creatures, huge swamp preachers.
The amount of fraud in Medicare is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
If you watch the hit crime drama on HBO called
The Sopranos, where Tony Soprano had doctors submitting fake Medicare
claims because they owed him money gam debt. That's not
that far off. That's not suspension of disbelief. I used
to work in Palm Springs for congress Woman Mary Bono
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in Calexico. On the very first street in Calexico, as
soon as you cross the border from Mexicali into Calexico,
very first road you get over the border, boom, right
across the street there is this huge mail boxes et cetera,
or some kind of one of those places where there's
nothing but po boxes.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean it's a city block wide, and you know who.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Know what's in those mailboxes, those peo boxes, medicare checks,
and twice a month, first and the fifteenth, a whole
bunch of people line up for Mexicali, walk across the border,
go into that peo box, into all their peo boxes,
get mail, do a little shopping in the States, and
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then walk back across the border. You could go down
there and see it for yourself. I have because people
told me I don't believe this. So that's just one
example of the kind of fraud that's going on. And
don't even get me started on the Department of Defense,
where the Navy and the Army are building the exact
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same thing, but one is a different color.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So there has to be two.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So that kind of thing goes on, and it's really
hard to train the swamp. But if we want real change,
it requires real change. That's the way you have to
handle Washington, DC. Loup Penrose in for John Cobelt on
the John Cobelt Show on KFI AM six forty Live
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Speaker 1 (18:43):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobelt this week.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
John back on Tuesday talking about the CDC director being
fired by the Trump administration and refusing to resign.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And this is very typical of the swamp.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
They believe that they have a right to be there,
and it's a very DC mentality.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Other members of the CDC resigned in solidarity. What are
you talking?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Look, if you don't agree with where the administration is
taking the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, then you're inconsistent,
uh with the job.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
You're not a good fit. Go do something else. But
they all have to get in the way.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I love the whole Oh you can't fire her,
Well she's fired, Well then we're gonna quit too.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
To resign.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But this morning, Susan Monoraz isn't going without a fight.
She's refusing to leave. Her lawyers say the notification she
received is quote legally deficient and that only the President
himself can fire her.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What this is so amazing to me.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I'm gonna call my lawyer. You can't fire me, Kennedy.
Only the president can fire me. All right, you want
to bother the president. The President nominated me, I was confirmed.
I sit in the cabinet. You know we're good.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Pack your crap and go.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
And she's not the only one protesting. Overnight, at least
four other top CDC officials quitting on mass, including the
CDC's chief medical officer and the director of the Immunization Center.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh my gosh, ABC, I'm so scared. I don't know
what I'm gonna do. I don't know how I'm going
to survive as an American without the chief medical officer
who is so unstable that they have to quit because
the head of the CDC got fired and they think
that that's the best use of their skill is to
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show solidarity for the girl in the break room. Turns
out these other people that quit also should have been fired.
These are not people we want around here, is they
ask Caroline Levitt, I love you know, this is, in
fact the most transparent presidency.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They said, hey, you fired the head of the CDC.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Now a bunch of other really important people quit. What
are we gonna do about that?
Speaker 7 (20:54):
I understand there were a few other individuals who resigned
after the firing of Miss Monarez. One of those individuals
wrote in his departure statement that he identifies pregnant women
as pregnant people. So that's not someone who we want
in this administration anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So that's great, that's fantastic. Center of Disease Control chief
Medical Officer. There are no pregnant women, just pregnant people.
Men too can become pregnant. So pardon me if I
don't shed a tear that he's no longer the chief
Medical officer.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Unbelievable, these people in DC. Man, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So when Congressman Chris Cox, you may recall the name,
those of you in Orange County do. He was the
member of Congress representing Newport Beach for a long time,
like swept in after the Reagan administration.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think he was first.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Elected in ninety or eighty eight, right, around then with
Dana Roorbacher from Huntington Beach and the whole young Republican
crew and served in Congress until the Bush administration nominated him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
To be chair of the U S Securities.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And Exchange Commission, and so he vacated a seat and
you know, was nominated and confirmed as the head of
the Securities and Exchange Commission. And after a couple of
months in DC, I remember he was back home in
Newport Beach and I was working in Congress at the
time for the congressman that ran for that seat, Congressman
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John Campbell, and I saw him, and you know, the
question I have in these circumstances, like what were you
most surprised by it?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Like what was your biggest surprise? You know, your way
around Washington.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
He worked in the Reagan administration, you served in Congress,
you actually were in house leadership.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So was there anything surprising about being in the cabinet?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And he said, Lou, the most surprising thing, and I
could probably speak for any cabinet secretary, is you can't
fire anybody. You literally cannot fire anybody like for anything,
for incompetence, for failure to show up.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
You know, you got.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Staff members that are drunk, and you can't fire them,
you know, because in DC, right, alcoholism is a disease.
It's not a character flaw, and so you got to
send them out for treatment.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
People don't show up for work, you gotta, you know,
interview them, send them over to HR. What's going on?
Or you're having depression? What's going on? Why aren't you
showing up for work? Why aren't you getting your work done?
It's impossible to fire a federal employee.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So all federal employees know that, and they reach a
pay grade, they reach a scale, and they know they're
going to get cost of living adjustments every year, so
they just get into a comfort zone and they lay back.
And that was my first order of business. I wanted to,
you know, trim the department. I thought we were way
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over staffed and we were top heavy. So I sent
my deputies out to go find me people that were
underperforming and let's release them.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And Cox was right then. And it's been that way
since the Bush administration. Well it's been that way prior
to the Bush administration, but that's when I first learned
about it. And Trump is trying to change that. And
it's you hear it in the attitude. And this is
the top level, This is the director of the CDC.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
How dare you fire me? You can't fire me. Only
the president can fire me.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Why would you want to work for a cabinet member
who doesn't want you there? Like?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
How's that going to go?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Especially on something so important and frankly, such a priority
to the Director of Health and Human Services, Robert F.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Kennedy Junior, as the.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Issue of not vaccines, the question of the amount of
new vaccinations that were added to newborns in the eighties.
I know a little bit about this because I had
my children. My oldest is sixteen, so sixteen years ago.
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But I remember Kennedy talking about it. He said, there
have been for years and years and years and decades,
pretty much the same amount of vaccinations every time a
baby's born, and then all of a sudden in the
middle of the eighties, it doubled out of nowhere for
things we'd never heard of and have not been properly tested,
certainly not the testing that we did for all the
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earlier vaccinations. And Kennedy also drew a straight line between
all those vaccinations and other childhood problems like autism. So
it sparked his curiosity like any good scientist, and some
for whatever reason, that really makes the bureaucrats at the
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CDC very upset. And now you have this one that's
saying I'm not going to rubber stamp his unscientific, reckless directives.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Lady, get lost.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
These goopball people in Washington don't understand that woman. So
the CDC, everybody is expendable, Everybody can be replaced. Get
the hell out of DC.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Back your crap and get the hackle out of DC.
I'm with you. Louke Penrose in for.
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Speaker 1 (26:30):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt Show.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Speaking of government employees, remember the government employee that threw
the subway sandwich at the comp.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
He doesn't like. He works for the federal government. Didn't like.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Either the National Guard or was it the Border Patrol,
Immigration and Customs Enforcement. He didn't like it, so he
threw the subway sandwich at him. And was charged. It
turns out they're not going to indict him for a felony.
I'm not sure what they're gonna do with.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Sources say a grand jury's decided there won't be a
felony indictment against Sean Charles Don after he was busted
for throwing a sandwich at a federal agent in Washington, thirty.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Seven years old.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Thirty seven years old, Remember when I told you Democrats
don't have a political problem.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Democrats have a maturity problem.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Like, regardless of what their politics are, they are so
immature throwing a sandwich at an officer.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
After he was busted for throwing a sandwich at a
federal agent in Washington. A video of the incident went viral,
showing Dun shouting why are you here?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't want you in my city.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
Soon after, he was fired from his job at the
Criminal Division of the DOJ d OJ.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
What did I tell you?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Washington d C is staffed by lifers who are petulance
c students. Deep DOJ stands for Department of Justice. He
worked for the Department of Justice and still could not
contain himself and his immaturity and threw a sandwich at
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a federal agent Seawan Dunn.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Accused of attacking a federal officer with a foot long
subway sandwich similar to this one right here.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And is all caught on camera. Now, this was pretty
good camera work. I have tomit. This is the Fox
affiliate in DC. You see these fascists right here.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You take a look at Pottymount, So federal employee you're
paying his salary, works for the DOJ, walking around DC
at night, mad at law enforcement. Does not like the
increased presence of law enforcement screaming bad words at our
federal employees.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Take a look at this cell phone video from late
Sunday night. Thirty seven year old Sean Dunn shown in
the pink shirt and shorts.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
What's he wearing on a Sunday night? Shown in the
pink shirt and shorts hmmm.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Allegedly yelling and federal officers on Fourteenth Street in DC.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
He's screaming shame at the Immigration and Customs enforcement officers
and the National Guard in the pink shirt and shorts.
Speaker 10 (29:19):
Moments later, video appearing to show him crossing the street
screaming just inches from a US Customs and Border Protection
officer's face, and then appearing to hit the officer in
the chest with a foot long subway sandwich.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Ooof that's a mistake. That would be a sault. You know,
you can get shot for that. The officer, the agent
doesn't know what's being thrown at them, Like this guy's
a maniac.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He doesn't know he works for.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The Department of Justice, and he just knows that he
has a pink shirt on and a projectile is coming
in the direction of an officer and there are nuts
out there and belligerent people like that. Could have been anything,
could have been a rock, could have been a grenade.
Don't be doing that.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Officers immediately chasing Dune in the street and eventually catch
and arrest him.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So he got fired from the DOJ. No longer on
the federal payroll. So that's good, thirty seven years old.
I'm not sure what he's gonna do next. I'm sure
he'll get a job with a Democrat senator or something
working on a campaign. But it is just unbelievable. The
level of immaturity is unbelievable. And I have said it
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before and I'll say it again. This is really the
Democrat problem. It is not a political problem. They don't
have a political problem so much as they have a
maturity problem. Their core constituency is immature. I don't know
if they are just great big babies, if Trump derangement
syndrome has wrecked their mind, maybe they too are on
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some kind.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Of mood altering drug. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You're not gonna see me throwing a subway sandwich at
a cop. In fact, I'm not throwing anything out a
guy with a gun. You know what's interesting? So the
Fox News affiliate there in DC, they went and asked people.
Of course, you know, the next day you got to
go and stand in front of the subway where the
subway sandwich was purchased.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And you know, it asked people. This is called man
on the.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Street interviews MS and they only interviewed women. And I
thought this was interesting because what do we always hear
is the core constituency of Democrats, right, Democrats are always
women and minorities.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Women and minorities.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well that's who they And I don't know that the
reporter did this on purpose or it just turned out
that way, but he interviewed three women about this story
right there in front of the subway on Fourteenth Street
in DC.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
What do you make of all?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
This guy threw a sandwich out a US Customs and
Border Protection agent.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And there are three little quick interviews.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And I don't know what the nationality of these women are,
but I can presume just a ballpark it based I
used to live in DC, so I know the people
that I think. This woman, she's certainly of color. I'll
based on the accent. I'll go with Puerto Rican. But
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here's the interview of the woman of color.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Her reaction.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
It's disrespectful for the police officers.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And you don't like that. No, I don't like that
at all. So women of color, it's disrespectful. Here's a
black woman. I'm just disgusting because he's a black women disgusted.
Here's the liberal white woman.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So the woman of color, both of them, they are disgusted, outraged.
I think it's terrible. He's an officer, show some respect
that kind of stuff. Here's the white woman.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
He didn't get hurt.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
There's no reason to get a felony because.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So what he's wearing a uniform. He's supposed to be
a hero protector.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
If he got a subway thrown at him, oh well,
like he should just you know, say, don't do that,
or just get an apology.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
The liberal white woman wants the officer to just ask
for apology because he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I thought that was so interesting. I thought, there it is.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
There's the reason the Democrat Party is just sinking like
a stone, popularity rating around twenty seven percent. And on
the issue of law and order and law enforcement, Trump's
numbers are in the high fifties and Democrats are in
the toilet. And that's the reason why right there, that's
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also the reason why President Trump is growing his base
of support among minorities. Right, easy question, what do you
make of this guy throwing a subway sandwich at the officer?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hit it again?
Speaker 9 (34:01):
It's disrespectful for the police officers.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You don't like that. No, I don't like that at all. Right,
women of color, disrespectful black woman. I'm just disgusted because
white woman, he didn't get hurt. He didn't get hurt,
he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's so classic, absolutely classic. Now we don't know what
the sandwich was made of. Eric, I'm going with the
veggie delight. But the vengie delight wouldn't pack enough heft,
because if you watch the video, you'll see the uh,
I mean the sandwich really, it just it hit the
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officer like a wet, you know, towel. I mean it
really kind of like really hit into him and kind
of exploded a little bit. So there had to be
at least some meat in there, or it was a
veggie delight with extra male that could have been the case.
There had to be something in there. I don't know
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what the kind of person that throws a subway sandwich
at an Immigration and Customs enforcement officer, what that person
likes to eat, but something telling me it's just not.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
A turkey and cheese, all right, So we're out of here.
We got to run. We'll ride it completely out of time.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
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Cobelt this week. Good to have you along with us.
A departure will an attempt to dismiss the director of
the Center for Disease Control and Prevention. CDC Director Susan
Manarez was fired by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
And she's refusing to go, she says.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
According to her lawyers, she refuses to rubber stamp unscientific,
reckless directives from her superior. The White House has responded
that she was not aligned with the president's agenda and
she's the head of the CDC. Joe Khalil is with
News Nation. He's there, DC correspondent. Is she still there?
I mean, you cannot refuse to go, So, Joe, what's
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she going to do? Just lock herself in her office?
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Yeah? Hey, Lou, No, I mean she has gone.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Now.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
The situation was that she was fired and it was
apparently announced by Health and Human Services. Her attorneys said
she can only be fired by the president because she
was a presidential appointing nominee, and then she had to
be sentate confirmed and so that was sort of the
discrepancy her legal team made. But since that that pushback
(01:25):
from her legal team, the president has announced it. The
White House came down with that announcement, so she is
she is officially gone, and she's already actually been replaced
by an acting director. Now, all right, so.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
There's somebody running the CDC. That's good to know.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
This notion though, that she is she refused to rubber
stamp what she thought were reckless directives.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I mean, everybody has a boss, and you you have to.
I mean, there's.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Certainly you can share your thoughts and opinions, but at
the end of the day, your job is to do
what the boss wants you to do. And her boss
is the director of the the cabinet member for Health
and Human Services who works for the President. So this
is not an ordinary that you would have to do
(02:17):
what the agenda is of the White House.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Yeah, And that's what happens is sometimes you butt heads
with the person who runs the agency, and if you
have serious, you know, moral objections, then usually we see
one of two things. You see somebody resign uh in
protest in their own principle, and sometimes they you know,
they're forced out, and so that sort of is what happened.
(02:42):
They came to a head today. She has what she
she says are serious objections to Secretary Kennedy r F
K Junior's vaccine policies. And what her attorneys have said
we haven't heard from her directly, but we've heard from
her through her attorneys, is she felt like there were
some vaccines that the medical community, she says, has accepted
(03:05):
as safe and effective. Part of it was a COVID vaccine,
there were some others that, she says, the Secretary has
been trying and working to get rid of the approval
for those and if you revoke the approval for those vaccines,
what happens is, you know, they're no longer on the
schedule that CDC recommended for kids. That might mean that
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your health insurance all of a sudden might not cover
those vaccines, because oftentimes they just take whatever the CDC recommends.
And she and what several others in the CDC have
said now is they feel like they those policies would
be putting kids or vulnerable populations at risk, and so
for that reason, they were seriously butting heads. So she
(03:49):
quit and the others who I'm talking about. There were
three other high ranking CDC officials also decided to quit,
sort of in protest and in solidarity with her with
the former director.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now, well, anybody that's followed the career of Robert F.
Kennedy Junior, way before politics, way before Trump, back in
the day when he was a Democrat and Democrats liked him.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
He has been.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Talking about the amount of vaccinations that have been added
in the eighties, the tremendous increase of vaccinations that have
been added to the schedule in the eighties. I mean,
that's anybody that would apply for the job that would
stand to be nominated as the director of CDC. It
is impossible that she could not have been aware of
(04:34):
where Robert F. Kennedy Junior was on that issue. And
you're applying for a job that puts you directly under him.
How can you be nominated, be confirmed by the Senate,
go to work, and then complain that Kennedy is very
concerned about the amount of vaccines that have been added
(04:54):
to the schedule.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I'd really love
to hear from doctor Mana and see if she had
any Inkling beforehand, because it was pretty obvious. I mean,
he had been very clear and actually she'd only been
in the job for a month before you know, this
came to a head. But even before she became the
CDC director, I mean, he had already fired the entire
(05:18):
vaccination board that that is supposed to sort of go through,
you know, the safety protocol for vaccines, and he replaced
them with people who view the vaccine issue closer to
how he views it. So there were definitely signs. And
I mean, again, it's been no secret that you know,
he is he has raised suspicion about certain vaccines. So
(05:39):
I think it's a fair question that you bring up
to ask that, you know, maybe she very likely knew
some of these things in his stances before she was
even nominated to be CDC director. Maybe she thought her
input could change some hearts and minds within the within
the department, within the agency. I don't know. It's it's again,
I think the pretty fair question you post.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Yeah, it strikes me as bad vetting to be perfectly
honest with you, because she didn't.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
She could have said that we have professional disagreements.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
There's professional disagreements, respectfully, respect professional disagreements about the science
here at the CDC. So it's best that I allow
the agenda of this administration move forward and step out
of its way. That would have been a statement that
would allowed her.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
To exist, you know, in the in the professional world.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Now she looks like somebody that was trying to stop
what Kennedy was trying to do, somebody that was trying
to stop what Trump was trying to do. When she
talks about reckless directives and she refused to be a
rubber stamp for unscientific directives, that's belligerent.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm I don't want to
you know again, I don't want.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
To put you on the spot, but I mean it's
it's right, But it's it does sound I get it,
you're the correspondent. It just it's it seems it's almost
it almost sounds like if you didn't know anybody, you
would have thought that she was a holdover from a
previous administration.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
And I mean several of the CDC officials were actually
that resigned today. Some of them were from previous administrations too,
actually that you know, we're doing the work and just
had what they describe as serious moral objections to changing
the vaccine schedule and potentially revoking the approval of some
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vaccines that they said, you know, we're we're just we're
going to resign. It seems like they had some confidence
in her that perhaps she could steer the department in
a different direction. I can tell you there are some Republicans,
and the first one that comes to mind is Senator
Bill Cassidy. He is the Republican chairman of the Senate
(07:50):
Health Committee who actually does have concerns about this whole
thing too, and he said just yesterday night that this
deserves oversight in his views. So what that means is,
you know, they could probably probe this. You know, he
was a big advocate for uh doctor Manares to be
elevated to the role of director. I think, you know,
(08:11):
there may be some questions there, and we may learn
more about how this came about, what the internal discussions were,
Did she have the secretary's ear, did she not? These
are things that we don't know, you know, these are
things that we'd like to learn.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Well.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
I think we'll know more in the next couple of days,
especially when we learn more about who the acting director
is and who will be nominated to be the replacement.
Jokalu with News Nation, DC correspondent. Always good to catch
up with you. Thanks so much for coming in and
h and filling us in on this one. So this
is the way it works in Washington, d C. It
is very, very difficult to get rid of staff. And
(08:49):
that sounds crazy. You can win the White House and
you think you're in charge, but you're really not in charge.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
You're not you.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
You are presiding over a disc functional executive branch and
it takes hard work to drain that swamp. And here
you have a CDC director who doesn't like the Director
of Health and Human Services and says, Adam.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
I'm not leaving, and she actually has to be forced out.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
And then she gets forced out and she, you know,
leaves a nasty note saying I'm not gonna take reckless
directives and rubber stamp unscientific directives.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
This is how hard it is.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
It really is like pulling a tooth to get some
of the swamp creatures out of a job in DC.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
I'll tell you all about it coming up next.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
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So the CDC director fired by the Trump administra. She says,
you can't fire me, only the president can fire me.
And then the President said, all right, you're fired, and
then she left, but not without saying all kinds of
mean things about Robert F. Kennedy Junior, who is her boss.
(10:14):
I'm not surprised at this. Of course, this makes an
hysterical story. Right immediately the media runs with it that well,
here it is, here's good Bording America ABC.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
The CDC right now is in chaos. The White House
says they've fired the new director, Susan Monterez, after a
tense confrontation with HHS Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Junior, in
which he insisted that she commit to his changes to
vaccine policy and.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Tried to pressure her.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
See this is why you don't do that, right, because
that's the way it winds up on TV chaos at
the CDC. She refuses to commit to Robert F. Kennedy's vision.
Let me explain to you how this works. The President
of the United States is the head of the exactecutive
(11:00):
branch of government. Everything that goes on in the executive
branch of government is and ought to be an extension
of the vision.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Of the administration that he oversees.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It should properly be the way he wants it in
every form. Every cabinet reports to the president. The Secretary
of Defense, the Secretary of Interior, the Secretary of Health
and Human Services, the Secretary of whatever. They are handpicked
by the president, nominated and then confirmed by the United
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States Senate.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
So their job is to do what the president wants.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
So everybody that works at those agencies, and there are
thousands and thousands of government employees.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
When they talk about the swamp, that's the swamp.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
Not Kennedy, not the director of the CDC, although she
acts pretty swampy, but the hundreds and hundreds of people
that work under them that are lifers, people that have
lifetime career jobs at the federal government. And they all
have attitude problems. They're all see students with attitude problems.
They all know that you're president for four years. You
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can huff and puff, but we're not changing the way
we do things and will resist any changes and fight
back because we know that you just don't want bad
headlines and you want to get reelected or you want
to keep the House, So you're not going to make
a big deal about this and will survive and you won't,
and we're just going to get pay increases and cost
of living increases and go home to our homes in Alexandria,
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Virginia and vote Democrat.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
That's the swamp.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
That is what the President of the United States ultimately
presides over.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Each and every day.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Every president gets elected and they think they're in charge,
and they're not.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
They're really not. There are presiding over.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
A swamp of lifers who are see students and who
are petulant, belligerent government bureaucrats. So real change requires real change.
Real change requires real change. And if you really want
to change Washington, you have to go hard at these people.
(13:24):
You say, do exactly what I said. You may very
well call rubber stamping. You do exactly what I said,
or get your crap and get out of here and
take your staff with you and all your sympathizers in
the break room, all of you get out. I'd rather
have none of you working here than the constantly argue
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with you. And that's the way the president is running
this cabinet.
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I knew he was going.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
To have problems at the Department of Health and Human Services,
and that's why I was very glad that Kennedy was there.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
And this is a case in point. Look at this woman.
She's not in charge.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
It is not up to her, who in Washington has
spent more time studying vaccines and the impact that they're
having on our children and our families and our.
Speaker 1 (14:17):
Health and our culture than Robert F. Kennedy Junior.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
You can disagree, but guess what, he's the director of
the Health and Human Services and you're not. So it's
his way, which is exactly the way the president wants it,
and that is the way the administration needs to be run.
That's certainly the way the executive branch should be run.
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So she's got to go, and I guess she didn't
want She wouldn't go quietly. And a bunch of other
people quit too.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
To resign.
Speaker 6 (14:47):
But this morning, Susan Monaz isn't going without a fight.
She's refusing to leave.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
You're refusing to leave, lady, get lost.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean I don't know what you think is gonna
happen all one quick to hr and you will not
be issued a paycheck.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
So I don't know what you think you do it.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
She's refusing to leave. Her lawyers say the notification she
received is quote legally deficient and that only the president
himself can fire her. And she's not the only one
protesting Overnight.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
At least four other.
Speaker 6 (15:16):
Top CDC officials quitting on mass, including the CDC's chief
medical officer and the director of the Immunization Center.
Speaker 4 (15:23):
Right.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
See, most presidents would not want that on Good Morning
America because then everyone's to say, hey, a lot of
top officials, let the CDC. The CDC is in chaos.
What if there's a pandemic or something big goes on.
We're not prepared. What's going on. They don't know what
they're doing over there. This president like that. Normally, most
administrations and most politicians would worry about that story. President
Trump could care less. You could repeat that story all
(15:46):
week on Good Morning America.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Who cares? She is the problem? She is the problem.
Speaker 3 (15:50):
Anybody that gets fired and says I'm not going to leave,
you don't want that bach.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Working for you.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You know that all my listeners that are in business,
you know the exact type of person I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
You're fired. I'm not leaving, oh boy. But I'm not surprised.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
This is the swamp and I'm not surprised it's happening
at Health and Human Services.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
There's going to be more of this. I'm glad that
the President should firm.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
I'm glad he's empowering Kennedy to get rid of the
people that are not advancing the vision that this administration has.
I knew that it was going to be I knew
the VACS thing was going to be a problem, but
I'm glad that they stood firm. The other two areas
where I think there's going to be problems is Medicare
and the defense budget.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Those are two other.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
Areas where there are huge swamp creatures, huge swamp preachers.
The amount of fraud in Medicare is just unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
If you watch the hit crime drama on HBO called
The Sopranos, where Tony Soprano had doctors submitting fake Medicare
claims because they owed him money gam debt. That's not
that far off. That's not suspension of disbelief. I used
to work in Palm Springs for congress Woman Mary Bono
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in Calexico. On the very first street in Calexico, as
soon as you cross the border from Mexicali into Calexico,
very first road you get over the border, boom, right
across the street there is this huge mail boxes et cetera,
or some kind of one of those places where there's
nothing but po boxes.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
I mean it's a city block wide, and you know who.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Know what's in those mailboxes, those peo boxes, medicare checks,
and twice a month, first and the fifteenth, a whole
bunch of people line up for Mexicali, walk across the border,
go into that peo box, into all their peo boxes,
get mail, do a little shopping in the States, and
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then walk back across the border. You could go down
there and see it for yourself. I have because people
told me I don't believe this. So that's just one
example of the kind of fraud that's going on. And
don't even get me started on the Department of Defense,
where the Navy and the Army are building the exact
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same thing, but one is a different color.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
So there has to be two.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
So that kind of thing goes on, and it's really
hard to train the swamp. But if we want real change,
it requires real change. That's the way you have to
handle Washington, DC. Loup Penrose in for John Cobelt on
the John Cobelt Show on KFI AM six forty Live
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Speaker 5 (18:38):
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six forty.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobelt this week.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
John back on Tuesday talking about the CDC director being
fired by the Trump administration and refusing to resign.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
And this is very typical of the swamp.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
They believe that they have a right to be there,
and it's a very DC mentality.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Other members of the CDC resigned in solidarity. What are
you talking?
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Look, if you don't agree with where the administration is
taking the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, then you're inconsistent,
uh with the job.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
You're not a good fit. Go do something else. But
they all have to get in the way.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
And I love the whole Oh you can't fire her,
Well she's fired, Well then we're gonna quit too.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
To resign.
Speaker 6 (19:30):
But this morning, Susan Monoraz isn't going without a fight.
She's refusing to leave. Her lawyers say the notification she
received is quote legally deficient and that only the President
himself can fire her.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
What this is so amazing to me.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
I'm gonna call my lawyer. You can't fire me, Kennedy.
Only the president can fire me. All right, you want
to bother the president. The President nominated me, I was confirmed.
I sit in the cabinet. You know we're good.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Pack your crap and go.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
And she's not the only one protesting. Overnight, at least
four other top CDC officials quitting on mass, including the
CDC's chief medical officer and the director of the Immunization Center.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Oh my gosh, ABC, I'm so scared. I don't know
what I'm gonna do. I don't know how I'm going
to survive as an American without the chief medical officer
who is so unstable that they have to quit because
the head of the CDC got fired and they think
that that's the best use of their skill is to
(20:29):
show solidarity for the girl in the break room. Turns
out these other people that quit also should have been fired.
These are not people we want around here, is they
ask Caroline Levitt, I love you know, this is, in
fact the most transparent presidency.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
They said, hey, you fired the head of the CDC.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Now a bunch of other really important people quit. What
are we gonna do about that?
Speaker 7 (20:54):
I understand there were a few other individuals who resigned
after the firing of Miss Monarez. One of those individuals
wrote in his departure statement that he identifies pregnant women
as pregnant people. So that's not someone who we want
in this administration anyway.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
So that's great, that's fantastic. Center of Disease Control chief
Medical Officer. There are no pregnant women, just pregnant people.
Men too can become pregnant. So pardon me if I
don't shed a tear that he's no longer the chief
Medical officer.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Unbelievable, these people in DC. Man, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So when Congressman Chris Cox, you may recall the name,
those of you in Orange County do. He was the
member of Congress representing Newport Beach for a long time,
like swept in after the Reagan administration.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I think he was first.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Elected in ninety or eighty eight, right, around then with
Dana Roorbacher from Huntington Beach and the whole young Republican
crew and served in Congress until the Bush administration nominated him.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
To be chair of the U S Securities.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
And Exchange Commission, and so he vacated a seat and
you know, was nominated and confirmed as the head of
the Securities and Exchange Commission. And after a couple of
months in DC, I remember he was back home in
Newport Beach and I was working in Congress at the
time for the congressman that ran for that seat, Congressman
(22:27):
John Campbell, and I saw him, and you know, the
question I have in these circumstances, like what were you
most surprised by it?
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Like what was your biggest surprise? You know, your way
around Washington.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
He worked in the Reagan administration, you served in Congress,
you actually were in house leadership.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
So was there anything surprising about being in the cabinet?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And he said, Lou, the most surprising thing, and I
could probably speak for any cabinet secretary, is you can't
fire anybody. You literally cannot fire anybody like for anything,
for incompetence, for failure to show up.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
You know, you got.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
Staff members that are drunk, and you can't fire them,
you know, because in DC, right, alcoholism is a disease.
It's not a character flaw, and so you got to
send them out for treatment.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
People don't show up for work, you gotta, you know,
interview them, send them over to HR. What's going on?
Or you're having depression? What's going on? Why aren't you
showing up for work? Why aren't you getting your work done?
It's impossible to fire a federal employee.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
So all federal employees know that, and they reach a
pay grade, they reach a scale, and they know they're
going to get cost of living adjustments every year, so
they just get into a comfort zone and they lay back.
And that was my first order of business. I wanted to,
you know, trim the department. I thought we were way
(23:53):
over staffed and we were top heavy. So I sent
my deputies out to go find me people that were
underperforming and let's release them.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
And you can't do it.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
And Cox was right then. And it's been that way
since the Bush administration. Well it's been that way prior
to the Bush administration, but that's when I first learned
about it. And Trump is trying to change that. And
it's you hear it in the attitude. And this is
the top level, This is the director of the CDC.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
How dare you fire me? You can't fire me. Only
the president can fire me.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
Why would you want to work for a cabinet member
who doesn't want you there? Like?
Speaker 1 (24:33):
How's that going to go?
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Especially on something so important and frankly, such a priority
to the Director of Health and Human Services, Robert F.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Kennedy Junior, as the.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Issue of not vaccines, the question of the amount of
new vaccinations that were added to newborns in the eighties.
I know a little bit about this because I had
my children. My oldest is sixteen, so sixteen years ago.
(25:07):
But I remember Kennedy talking about it. He said, there
have been for years and years and years and decades,
pretty much the same amount of vaccinations every time a
baby's born, and then all of a sudden in the
middle of the eighties, it doubled out of nowhere for
things we'd never heard of and have not been properly tested,
certainly not the testing that we did for all the
(25:27):
earlier vaccinations. And Kennedy also drew a straight line between
all those vaccinations and other childhood problems like autism. So
it sparked his curiosity like any good scientist, and some
for whatever reason, that really makes the bureaucrats at the
(25:49):
CDC very upset. And now you have this one that's
saying I'm not going to rubber stamp his unscientific, reckless directives.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Lady, get lost.
Speaker 8 (26:00):
These goopball people in Washington don't understand that woman. So
the CDC, everybody is expendable, Everybody can be replaced. Get
the hell out of DC.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
Back your crap and get the hackle out of DC.
I'm with you. Louke Penrose in for.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
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Speaker 3 (26:33):
Speaking of government employees, remember the government employee that threw
the subway sandwich at the comp.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
He doesn't like. He works for the federal government. Didn't like.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Either the National Guard or was it the Border Patrol,
Immigration and Customs Enforcement. He didn't like it, so he
threw the subway sandwich at him. And was charged. It
turns out they're not going to indict him for a felony.
I'm not sure what they're gonna do with.
Speaker 9 (27:00):
Sources say a grand jury's decided there won't be a
felony indictment against Sean Charles Don after he was busted
for throwing a sandwich at a federal agent in Washington, thirty.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Seven years old.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Thirty seven years old, Remember when I told you Democrats
don't have a political problem.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Democrats have a maturity problem.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Like, regardless of what their politics are, they are so
immature throwing a sandwich at an officer.
Speaker 9 (27:31):
After he was busted for throwing a sandwich at a
federal agent in Washington. A video of the incident went viral,
showing Dun shouting why are you here?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
I don't want you in my city.
Speaker 9 (27:42):
Soon after, he was fired from his job at the
Criminal Division of the DOJ d OJ.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
What did I tell you?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
Washington d C is staffed by lifers who are petulance
c students. Deep DOJ stands for Department of Justice. He
worked for the Department of Justice and still could not
contain himself and his immaturity and threw a sandwich at
(28:14):
a federal agent Seawan Dunn.
Speaker 10 (28:15):
Accused of attacking a federal officer with a foot long
subway sandwich similar to this one right here.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
And is all caught on camera. Now, this was pretty
good camera work. I have tomit. This is the Fox
affiliate in DC. You see these fascists right here.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
You take a look at Pottymount, So federal employee you're
paying his salary, works for the DOJ, walking around DC
at night, mad at law enforcement. Does not like the
increased presence of law enforcement screaming bad words at our
federal employees.
Speaker 10 (28:50):
Take a look at this cell phone video from late
Sunday night. Thirty seven year old Sean Dunn shown in
the pink shirt and shorts.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
What was that?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
What's he wearing on a Sunday night? Shown in the
pink shirt and shorts hmmm.
Speaker 10 (29:02):
Allegedly yelling and federal officers on Fourteenth Street in DC.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
He's screaming shame at the Immigration and Customs enforcement officers
and the National Guard in the pink shirt and shorts.
Speaker 10 (29:19):
Moments later, video appearing to show him crossing the street
screaming just inches from a US Customs and Border Protection
officer's face, and then appearing to hit the officer in
the chest with a foot long subway sandwich.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Ooof that's a mistake. That would be a sault. You know,
you can get shot for that. The officer, the agent
doesn't know what's being thrown at them, Like this guy's
a maniac.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
He doesn't know he works for.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
The Department of Justice, and he just knows that he
has a pink shirt on and a projectile is coming
in the direction of an officer and there are nuts
out there and belligerent people like that. Could have been anything,
could have been a rock, could have been a grenade.
Don't be doing that.
Speaker 10 (30:06):
Officers immediately chasing Dune in the street and eventually catch
and arrest him.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
So he got fired from the DOJ. No longer on
the federal payroll. So that's good, thirty seven years old.
I'm not sure what he's gonna do next. I'm sure
he'll get a job with a Democrat senator or something
working on a campaign. But it is just unbelievable. The
level of immaturity is unbelievable. And I have said it
(30:32):
before and I'll say it again. This is really the
Democrat problem. It is not a political problem. They don't
have a political problem so much as they have a
maturity problem. Their core constituency is immature. I don't know
if they are just great big babies, if Trump derangement
syndrome has wrecked their mind, maybe they too are on
(30:57):
some kind.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Of mood altering drug. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
You're not gonna see me throwing a subway sandwich at
a cop. In fact, I'm not throwing anything out a
guy with a gun. You know what's interesting? So the
Fox News affiliate there in DC, they went and asked people.
Of course, you know, the next day you got to
go and stand in front of the subway where the
subway sandwich was purchased.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
And you know, it asked people. This is called man
on the.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
Street interviews MS and they only interviewed women. And I
thought this was interesting because what do we always hear
is the core constituency of Democrats, right, Democrats are always
women and minorities.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
Women and minorities.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Well that's who they And I don't know that the
reporter did this on purpose or it just turned out
that way, but he interviewed three women about this story
right there in front of the subway on Fourteenth Street
in DC.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
What do you make of all?
Speaker 3 (31:55):
This guy threw a sandwich out a US Customs and
Border Protection agent.
Speaker 1 (32:01):
And there are three little quick interviews.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
And I don't know what the nationality of these women are,
but I can presume just a ballpark it based I
used to live in DC, so I know the people
that I think. This woman, she's certainly of color. I'll
based on the accent. I'll go with Puerto Rican. But
(32:24):
here's the interview of the woman of color.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Her reaction.
Speaker 9 (32:28):
It's disrespectful for the police officers.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
And you don't like that. No, I don't like that
at all. So women of color, it's disrespectful. Here's a
black woman. I'm just disgusting because he's a black women disgusted.
Here's the liberal white woman.
Speaker 3 (32:46):
So the woman of color, both of them, they are disgusted, outraged.
I think it's terrible. He's an officer, show some respect
that kind of stuff. Here's the white woman.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
He didn't get hurt.
Speaker 7 (32:57):
There's no reason to get a felony because.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
So what he's wearing a uniform. He's supposed to be
a hero protector.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
If he got a subway thrown at him, oh well,
like he should just you know, say, don't do that,
or just get an apology.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
The liberal white woman wants the officer to just ask
for apology because he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
I thought that was so interesting. I thought, there it is.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
There's the reason the Democrat Party is just sinking like
a stone, popularity rating around twenty seven percent. And on
the issue of law and order and law enforcement, Trump's
numbers are in the high fifties and Democrats are in
the toilet. And that's the reason why right there, that's
(33:44):
also the reason why President Trump is growing his base
of support among minorities. Right, easy question, what do you
make of this guy throwing a subway sandwich at the officer?
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hit it again?
Speaker 9 (34:01):
It's disrespectful for the police officers.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
You don't like that. No, I don't like that at all. Right,
women of color, disrespectful black woman. I'm just disgusted because
white woman, he didn't get hurt. He didn't get hurt,
he didn't get hurt.
Speaker 3 (34:22):
It's so classic, absolutely classic. Now we don't know what
the sandwich was made of. Eric, I'm going with the
veggie delight. But the vengie delight wouldn't pack enough heft,
because if you watch the video, you'll see the uh,
I mean the sandwich really, it just it hit the
(34:44):
officer like a wet, you know, towel. I mean it
really kind of like really hit into him and kind
of exploded a little bit. So there had to be
at least some meat in there, or it was a
veggie delight with extra male that could have been the case.
There had to be something in there. I don't know
(35:04):
what the kind of person that throws a subway sandwich
at an Immigration and Customs enforcement officer, what that person
likes to eat, but something telling me it's just not.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
A turkey and cheese, all right, So we're out of here.
We got to run. We'll ride it completely out of time.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
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