July 14, 2025 • 37 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (07/14) - US Attorney Bill Essayli comes on the show to talk about the appeal filed regarding a federal judge saying ICE has violated the 4th Amendment while conducting raids in the LA area. John discusses a lot of the misleading headlines about the ICE raids. CSU Channel Islands is calling for the release of a professor who was detained by federal agents after allegedly throwing a tear gas can at federal agents during a raid at a marijuana farm in Ventura County. John is pissed at local news stations for their coverage of the ICE raids.
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You may have heard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On Friday, a federal district judge Miami UUSI Mensaw Frimpong
ruled that the Trump administration cannot have its ICE agents
detaining people on immigration issues without reasonable suspicion that goes
beyond their race, ethnicity, or occupation. In other words, the
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administration ICE was accused of profiling people, for example, seeing
a bunch of Hispanic workers at a home depot and
ICE then starting to interrogate and possibly detain. According to
this judge, that violates the Fourth Amendment. Since then, the
administration has filed an appeal, and we have the Los
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Angeles US Attorney Bill Asalion to talk about the appeal.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Bill. How are you good, John?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So the appeal has just been filed this morning, or
it's about to be filed.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Where are we in the process?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, we follow or notice of appeal yesterday and just
minutes ago we filed an emergency motion for a stay
with the Ninth Circuit asking the Ninth Circuit to intervene
and put a hold on this order until we can
have it fully briefed.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The order that the judge issued says that the agents
can't use race, ethnicity, speaking with an accent, being at
a bus stop or a day labor site or a
car wash, you know, the typical sites you might encounter
illegal alien men looking for work or loitering around. So
are you saying ICE is not doing that or that
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if they do, it's protected, it's legal.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, there's a lot going on here, but let's just
be very clear. This is law fair by a bunch
of activist groups, including the ASLU, and their intentions are
to stop immigration enforcement in the LA area. That's the
purpose of this litigation. The basis of our appeal is
there's multiple reasons we believe this order street put on hold.
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First of all, the way this thing was brought about
is completely improper. John, They tried to bring a lawsuit
a few weeks ago and they drew not a favorable
judge who denied their lawsuit. So what they've been doing
is filing smaller cases. They filed a couple habeas cases
where it's individuals saying they've been individually been harmed. Once
they found a judge they liked, they took that case
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and they mended it into a class action case, which
is what this case is now. And they filed it
on the eve of fourth of July, where we had
very little time to actually respond in substance. But what
I can tell you is we do not detain people
without reasonable suspicion. So the whole premise of this lawsuit
is just false. What they did is they cherry picked
a few examples. They said, look, they violated these particular
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people rights. We didn't really have a full opportunity to
present evidence on that. Based on those few cases, she
issued this ruling. And so we're appealing it because one,
we don't do this. We already follow the law. We
use reasonable suspicion when we detain anybody. And secondly, what
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they're trying to set up here John is basically like
a federal court monitor. So this is more just in
a court order. She's going to be monitoring all of
the immigration enforcement activities. She could hold individual agents and contempt.
She wants us to basically submit regular reports to the
ACLU on all our detentions and the basis for detention.
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She's going to order us to do specific trainings and policies.
This is basically the digicial branch getting involved in how
the executive branch goes about doing its work.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
How does a judge think they can take over the
Department of Homeland Security and institute immigration policy? That is
that is the presidential power period. I mean, that's been
ruled over and over again by the Supreme Court that
it's up to the executive branch of the government to
decide how this operates.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, and that's what we're arguing in our appeal. We're
taking it up. This is why we have appellate courts.
We disagree with the arguments in the district court. And
one of the cases we cite is the recent US
Supreme Court case where they said, you know, you can't
do these nationwide injunctions on these cases, and in our case,
this is a district wide injunction. The relief has to
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be tied to the claims of the party. So here
the individuals who claim they were picked up by ice,
they're not at risk of being picked up again. There's
no foreseeable harm for them, so there's no reason to
have a prospective order ruled. But you know, they did
it anyway. So that's one of the cases that we're
citing to the Ninth Circuit is the recent Supreme Court
case which said that courts aren't supposed to be doing
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these kind of orders anymore, these wide sweeping injunctions regulating
our conduct. That's the Supreme Court is said they don't
want to see those.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So the issue is firing filing these cases on behalf
of illegal immigrants who've been picked up or are these
people they turned out not to be here illegally.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
They're either turned out not to be here illegally, or
they had some sort of status and you know, sometimes
for whatever reason, that happens. But as soon as they
figure out what their status is and then they get released,
I mean, look, mistakes happen. The standard is reasonable suspicion, John,
It's a very very low threshold. It's lower than probable cause.
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But if they have reasonable suspicion you're in the country
and lawfully, and you don't have proof on you that
you are, that you're here lawfully, then they can detain
you to ascertain whether you're here legally or not.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Is ICE picking people up off the street? What constitutes
reasonable suspicion?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, So most of what we do, we do do
a lot of targeted enforcements, So we're out looking for
specific bad people that we know are in the country
here and lawfully. But there is also we are doing
general immigr enforcement as well that is happening. They do
operate on tips, on training, on experience, on work sites
where they know there's a high likelihood that people are
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operating there who are not here legally. I mean, it's
not a stretch John that if you're a day laborer
at the home depot, you're probably not here lawfully. But
they don't just go off that. They do go and
they conducted an investigation, and a lot of it is
how people behave around Border patrol. You and I, John
probably would not start running when we saw a Border
Patrol agent throwing that out there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Right, So you could start by saying, Hey, there's twelve
guys at the home depot and they're standing around and
it looks like they're day laborers. It looks like they're
here illegally based on why they're at home depot, right,
they're not walking in and out and buying supplies, and
then you show up and if they start to scatter,
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that creates some more reasonable suspicion and that's all protected
under the law under the constitution.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Correct. Yeah, the courts have said reasonable suspicion is based
on the totality of the circumstances. It's a very nuanced
and fact specific inquiry. And when an agent detains someone,
they do prepare a report and they articulate what their
reasonable suspicion is. We didn't even have an opportunity to
present all that evidence of the judge because we again,
they filed this on the eve of fourth of July,
and we had very like I think we had one
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or two days to respond to, like this fifty page
complaint that they've obviously spent weeks preparing against the government.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
All right, BILLI Stanley, thank you for coming on and
explaining all this.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No, anytime, Yes, we'll go up on appeal. We'll see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, where do you think the appeal case will be
heard and a decision will come down.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, we're asking for an emergency stay, so the court
can act at any time. They could act as soon
as today if they wanted to. But we will continue
doing immigration enforcement operations that comply with the law and
the court order. So I don't want people to think
that we've stopped working.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We're not, all right, And it only applies to the
central District here in the Los Angeles area anyway, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, about half of California.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
All right, Yeah, just a small little sliver. Okay, all right, Bill,
we'll talk again soon. Thank you, all right, thank you,
uh Los Angeles US Attorney Bill Asale.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
We'll have more coming up on all this.
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Speaker 2 (09:45):
We just had Bill asaleon and Bill is the US
Attorney for the Central District of California and campus encompassing
the entire Los Angeles area and well beyond and uh.
The Trump administration is appealing an l judge's ruling. The
judge is ma Ami OWUSI Mensa Frimpong. She it's a
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she and a Biden appointee, and she has decided, as
Bill explained, that she will dictate immigration policy in the
Los Angeles area, not the federal government. And Bill went
through all the reasons I won't I won't repeat it.
We will be following up on this story later.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The appeal is UH could be acted on at any
moment if this the ninth Quarter of Appeals makes a
quick decision. In the meantime, I want to give a
good amount of time to this story in the National
Review because this explains so much. I'm not going to
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be repetitious about this either. Where you know, you just
constantly complain about how left wing the media is, how
how intensely misleading it is, how they outright lie. I
think if you listen to this show, you've accepted this
is a fact of life. However, it's impossible not to
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have all the lies and distortions and the misleading statements
seep into your head. And as you know, there are
many people in this country that actually take the media
at its word and actually believe in it. They have
faith and trust. Now maybe it's only down to thirty percent,
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but it's still thirty percent. The National Review, one of
their writers put together a story on all the different
ways that newspapers and television stations are misrepresenting the ICE story,
the immigration enforcement story. I'm going to go through these.
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I'm going to go through every one of them. They
printed in the National Review, so you understand what we're
dealing with. We're dealing with an entire institution in America,
the media that willfully intentionally lies and distorts and exaggerates
and downplays anything to do. Will specifically hear Trump's immigration
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success and what ICE is doing just out and out
falsehoods or downplaying something to the point of extreme distortion.
Here's the first example. They used Cincinnati Inquirer, major newspaper
there headline Cincinnati children's chaplain detained by Ice. Now, what's
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the picture in your head when you hear that a
children's chaplain is detained by Ice? Probably a nice, gentle,
elderly man who is roughed up and dragged away by
his heels by some over z bullying set of ICE
agents because maybe there was a paperwork error somewhere in
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his past. No, this chaplain is an Egyptian. His asylum
status was revoked in December by the Biden administration. Biden administration,
the chaplain was flagged on the FBI's terror watch list
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during a background check. The chaplain is claiming that his
fingerprints that led to his being flagged are not his.
Somebody stole his fingerprints. Maybe somebody cut off his fingers.
I don't know how that would happen. You see the
headline Cincinnati Children's chaplain detained by Ice, and it takes
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a number of paragraphs, because it takes a number of
paragraphs before you learn that chaplain has filed multiple lawsuits
against the federal government, most of which have been dismissed.
One remains pending. That should be in the headline, Egyptian
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chaplain on the terror watch list, arrested by Ice. That's
what it should say, not children's chaplain. That's just the beginning.
I mean that the Cincinnati Inquirer just outright lied by
not pointing out that this was a terror watch list
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immigrant that the Biden administration wanted kicked out of the country.
Here's another one. The media uses the term Indiana man
to described an illegal forty three year old Mexican national,
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and that's one of the tricks they use. They don't
write that, Hey, this guy is a Mexican illegal, or
even a Mexican undocumented, or or whatever country he's from.
Suddenly all these people get described by the state that
they're currently living in. If he's arrested in Indiana, he's
an Indiana man. He's not an illegal alien from Mexico
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or Brazil or Sri Lanka or Ecuador.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, it's from Indiana.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
In other words, innocent American citizen beat up by ice
Do you remember what they called the guy who raped
and murdered Lake and Riley, a poor girl from the
University of Georgia. He was described as an Athens Man,
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as in Athens, Georgia, because he lived and raped and
murdered in the city of Athens, and so the news
media wrote Athens Man. Ice cream man was used to
refer to a seventy one year old Lebanese national who
was deported to be route from Michigan for war crimes.
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War crimes, and the media described him as an ice
cream man. In fact his crimes, he was accused of
torturing and killing two Irish soldiers way back in the
nineteen eighties, came to this country and started selling ice cream,
I guess out of the back of the truck. How
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about the Russian national who was caught smuggling Petri dishes
into the United States. He was described as a Harvard researcher.
They found messages, Well, actually it was a she. They
found messages on her phone indicating she planned to smuggle
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the materials and was trying to evade detection. I guess
this was some sort of contagious disease she had smuggled
into the country. How About an Indian citizen from India
whose father in law is a former high ranking Hamas official.
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That person was described as a Georgetown scholar. How about
doctor recipient who came to the US when he was
four years old deported. Well, again, you got to go
through dozens of paragraphs before mentioning that the deported child
had been ordered removed during the Biden administration, presumably with
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his family, that the parole document he received was issued
in error. Here's another one, veteran who's been in the
US since he was four faces deportation before, and you
have to go through many paragraphs before you find out
this veteran and fire on a house party, on a
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crowd at a house party in Colorado Springs, hitting a
pregnant nineteen year old in the leg. You see what
it sees what I'm saying if you call them an
Indiana man, an Athens man, a veteran who's been here
since the age of four, and on and on and on,
and then way deep in the story you point out, oh, well,
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he shot up a house party, hit a pregnant girl.
Oh he raped and murdered a girl at college. I mean,
the all time classic was that that that monster from
L Salvador, Abrego Garcia who Trump deported to the prison
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in L Salvador, and he was described as a Maryland Man.
Here's a headline, US renews opposition to bringing Maryland man
wrongly deported to El Salvador. President Buclea rejects returning Maryland
man Trump officials mistakenly deported. Outrage grows over Maryland man's
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mistaken deportation to El Salvador prison. He's never a Maryland
man who was an illegal alien gangster from El Salvador
who is involved in human smuggling and beat the crap
out of his wife repeatedly. Got more coming up.
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that's what you listen to and catch up on. You
catch up on what you missed. If you're just joining
us now, you already missed. Bill asaleon the US Attorney
here in Los Angeles. He and his office has filed
an appeal with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to
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challenge a ruling by a district court judge saying that
the Trump administration here was engaging in profiling and that
they did not have reasonable suspicion to be rounding up
some of the illegal immigrants. The easiest example is at
a home depot, as Sali says, we're not doing that.
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There are a number of factors that go into who
we arrest or detain, and they're fighting that ruling at
the US District at the Court of Appeals in the
Ninth Circuit. This judge Miami Awusi Mensa Frimpong, and she,
in addition to that, wrote another directive micromanaging, telling Ice
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and Department of Homeland Security and Trump how you're supposed
to round up illegal aliens. Well, she doesn't set the policy.
Federal government does. The executive branch does. These are the
kind of judges that we're dealing with, a Biden appointee
from a couple of years ago. We're waiting to see
if that appeals decision is going to come down this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It could now.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Second segment spent a lot of time on all the
lies and misleading headlines about the ice raids and the
arrests and the detainment and the deportations. For example, they
described one guy in Cincinnati as being a children's chaplain,
and it turned out he was an Egyptian citizen whose
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asylum status was revoked by the Biden administration because he
was on the FBI terror watch list.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We had a fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Example right here in the LA area this weekend. Kt
LA Channel five they pulled one of these misdirection plays.
If you go online, you look on x they tweeted
out California State University channel islands is calling for the
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immediate release of one of their professors who is detained
during a protest on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
They put this tweet out on Sunday yesterday at eleven am.
By then they knew the truth but they didn't put
it in the tweet. The truth was he was detained
and arrested for throwing a tear gas canister at federal
law enforcement at ICE agents a tear gas canister, and
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somehow Channel five or whoever wrote this social media post
didn't know that, or I suspect intentionally downplayed it to
make it look like you had educators being pulled off
the street by the Nazis in the Department of Homeland Security.
By the way, have you seen the mugshot of this guy?
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I'm assuming this is a mugshot. What a kook.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You had a big smile.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
A big smile, bad teeth though. One thing when you
show off your teeth like that, they are yellow. A
couple of them are brown. The guy has a brown smile.
He's got wild hair, oversized glasses, bugged out eyes, and
a scraggly growth of beard. He looks insane. I thought
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this when I first glanced at this, I thought it
was a story about a homeless guy. I did, like
a crazy drug addict, guy that committed some kind of
terrible crime. And then I look and see it's one
of these idiot protesters. And then I see he's a
cal State Channel Islands professor. Well, we got an actual
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televised story from Channel five KTLA reporter Carlos Soceto. I
think by this time they caught up as to why
he was detained, So play it.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
The professor is being hell behind me in isolation of this.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
According to his attorney.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
As you mentioned, he was arrested last week protesting.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh ray that was occurring at a farm in Camera Rio.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
But US officials are now accused being that professor of
throwing a tear gas canister at law enforcement.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Many of my students are undocumented, and many of their
families are undocumented. It's my responsibility to protect them, and
so I've been patrolling the city streets following armed mask
thugs trying to kidnap my neighbors.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Wait, it's not that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
This guy says he's got illegal alien students in his class,
and we're paying for this. Cal State Channel Alans obviously
is a taxpayer paid college, right, so we're supplying the
tax money. He's got a legal alien students. We're paying
this guy's salary, and now he's his own. His own
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vigilante is a vigilante un running around to try to
interfere with federal officials. He's taken it upon himself to
throw a tear gas canister. This guy's employed by US,
he's working for US, and he's throwing tear gas ca
miss at federal immigration agents.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Back that up and play this thing again.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It's my responsibility to protect them, and so I've been
patrolling the city streets following armed masked thugs trying to
kidnap my neighbors.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
That's video of Professor at Jonathan Caravello speaking out against
the Trump administration's immigration enforcement crackdown during public comment at
last week's council meeting Incomerio. The CSU channel Islet's professor
was detained during the immigration raid at Glasshouse Farms on Thursday. Caravello,
a US citizen, was there protesting when he was arrested
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by authorities. Many of his supporters, including the campus, call
his arrests unlawful, claiming that Caravello was peacefully protesting when
the situation escalated. They're demanding his immediate release.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Now, we spoke with one of his colleagues and his attorneys.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Did they mention the tear gas canister?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yet they did at the beginning At the beginning Okay,
not not emphasizing it much though. Now it's quoting the
other people at the college saying this is an unfair risk.
You imagine they're law enforcement officers, They're like cops, They're
like sheriff's deputies. You can't throw a tear gas cannion.
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What do you think is going to happen? If you
do that. That's a federal crime. You can go to
federal prison for it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Now the people at the at cal State.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Channel Islands, they're protesting that this nutbag was taken in play.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Some more colleagues and his attorney after she was finally
able to meet with him, she says he's being treated
like a high risk violent criminal, being kept in isolation.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The professor was protecting his students.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
He did share with.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Me that he was not trying to interfere with any
of the investigation that was happening.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
He was simply there to help support and so he.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Feels that his arrest was unjustified.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
He is just such a gentle person and an amazing colleague, and.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
He's a passionate speaker.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
But I could not imagine him him being in any trouble.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Carvello is a well known community activist who says many
of his students are undocumented, so he was exercising his
First Amendment right to protest the ongoing raids. However, US
Attorney Bill Asali put out a statement saying Carvello was
not kidnapped by federal agents. He was arrested for throwing
a tear gas canister at law enforcement and is facing
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serious federal charges.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Now things got ugly when protesters.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Closed a second.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
This is exactly what I was talking about in the
previous segment. Why did Channel five and this reporter Carlos
Soceido downplay that the US Attorney is filing a case
that he threw that, this Jonathan Caravello through a tear
gas canister at ice agents a federal crime, very dangerous
to do that, and it was buried under an avalanche
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of character witnesses testifying to how wonderful and gentle and
communities civic minded and organized, and he's protecting his students.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's like that is not his job. He's a professor.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
His job is not to interfere with federal investigations. These
people have lost their minds. They have lost their freaking minds.
They think they're now vigilantes against the federal government and
that they're justified in what they do so they can
injure or kill ICE agents and it's cool. And then
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according to Channel four, there's a vigil being held for
this whack job, a vigil Sunday in front of the
Tention Center in downtown LA. They were demanding the release
of Jonathan Caravvello. Well, if he gets convicted, he's going
to be a federal felon and he's going to be
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locked up in a federal prison.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
What a bunch of nies.
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Speaker 2 (30:08):
Uh, we just played a Channel five story. Channel five
had had posted on on x a couple of lines
about a cal State Channel Islands professor a real freak
nut job, and the line said that cal State Channel
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Islands calling for the immediate release of one of their
professors who was detained during a protest on Thursday, and
then didn't have a single word as to why he
was detained. It wasn't to take away his First Amendment
rights of free speech and the right to protest. It
was because he threw a tear gas canister at ice agents.
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So we went to the audio of Carlos saida because
that was the thing I just read. Was was a
post and Carlos say it briefly mentions the tear gas
charge at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But then the bulk of the story was.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Is testimony from cal State University adults and students saying
how wonderful this guy is and how much he cares.
And it's complete with a clip of him testifying before
some government body as to why he does this, and
he thinks it's his job now to.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
A normal person.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Sometimes I feel like I sound like an idiot because
I'm explaining something obvious that any normal person would understand.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But look at all these lunatics.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
A tear gas canister thrown at somebody could hurt them
very badly.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And clearly.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
If you look at this photo, this guy looks just
absolutely insane, just unhinged. Anthony Caravello, I've also seen Caravovevello
depending on the media account.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The media accounts are so bad.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I don't know if they're written by AI or they're
written by some sixteen year old interns.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I don't know. But there's so many.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Have you noticed this stepper, so many misspellings, so much
just gibberish in the copy.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I have noticed a lot of crap. Yeah, there's a
lot of crap.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
They have very young, very inexperienced, and untalented people who
are type it, and sometimes the information is wrong or
they're emphasizing the wrong part of the story. Carlos Orsato,
and I don't know, did he write this story? Somebody
wrote it for him? Why is ninety percent of the
story about what a wonderful character this professor is and
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then at the very end, at the very end, he
reads Bill A. Saley's official statement on why they're pressing
charges against this lunatic. Now, I don't understand why the
Channel fied news department was the first news department in
Los Angeles. When I got here, it was considered one
of the gold standards of local news, just filled with
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many famous reporters and anchors. And now they do this
piece of garbage story where it's mostly mostly a tongue
bath for a lunatic professor and very little time spent
on the dangerous felony that they say he committed.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
That's a complete version of the news process, a complete
bastardization of what you're supposed to do as a news reporter.
And again, I don't know if it's Carlos Sosto, somebody
wrote for him, there was an editor who got involved,
or a producer or what the hell.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Is going on?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
But it's not just him and Channel five, it's all
the channels. It's Channel seven. A few weeks ago, remember
we talked about the father and son who was deported
from Torrance, and they did this whole sob story. They
even interviewed them in it was the country they were
deported to, somewhere in sentral America. And then it turned out, oh,
they've been deported twice before, twice before by the Biden
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administration in the last few years. This was their third deportation.
But they didn't they didn't mention it in the Channel
seventh story at all. It's such intentionally false information by design.
(34:27):
So I'm wondering, what day, because I know Channel five
used to do one of the best jobs I'd ever
seen in news. What day did somebody at Channel five
get up and say, Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Here are the new rules.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We're going all woke here now, we're going all resistance
against anything connected to Trump. We're going we're going against
We're going to do cheerleading for illegal aliens. We're gonna
do cheerleading for the violent protesters, the criminals. They should
be doing an expose on how Churlie got thirty four
million dollars of our tax money to help incite and
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encourage the riot. That's what they should be doing a
Channel five. What's gone wrong there? What kind of insanity
has gone wrong? So I'm supposed to get up in
the morning and watch the Channel five Morning News or
watch their new newscast or I think they got news
running like seventeen hours a day. It seems I'm supposed
to watch them and think, oh, I'm getting a straight
story here, I'm getting the full truth. What's with the
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incessant SOB stories either about the immigrants or the character
studies of the protesters.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
These are violent protesters. I heard.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Somebody what was I listening listening to today? Somebody in
the Trump administration or an ice absolutely beside himself. Oh,
it was a former Border patrol official, obviously beside himself
at the violence of these protesters because they're throwing rocks,
(35:57):
and they're throwing bottles, and they're throwing tear gas canisters.
And he said, you know, somebody's gonna die here, somebody's
gonna die. You've got this is so violent and barbaric
and wrong. And all these people ought to be arrested
and put into federal prison for a long time, and
instead they're being glorified by by all these writers and reporters.
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I mean, I mean, I'm the journalism is being completely
destroyed by the woke generation. There is no possible way
I can turn on Channel five tomorrow, especially if I'm
watching an immigration story and believe a single word they say.
And one of the things is I don't know what
they're they're omitting. I don't know what's missing from the
story like.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
This guy.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, I'll just go by the post one more time.
Cal State University Channel Islands calling for the immediate release
of one of their professors who is detained during a
protest on Thursday. No mention of the tear gas can
he threw at the Ice agents, which is why he's
being detained in a federal detention center and he's going
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to be charged with federal crimes. Channel five does not
put that on their X post. All right, we come back,
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Speaker 1 (00:17):
You may have heard.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
On Friday, a federal district judge Miami UUSI Mensaw Frimpong
ruled that the Trump administration cannot have its ICE agents
detaining people on immigration issues without reasonable suspicion that goes
beyond their race, ethnicity, or occupation. In other words, the
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administration ICE was accused of profiling people, for example, seeing
a bunch of Hispanic workers at a home depot and
ICE then starting to interrogate and possibly detain. According to
this judge, that violates the Fourth Amendment. Since then, the
administration has filed an appeal, and we have the Los
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Angeles US Attorney Bill Asalion to talk about the appeal.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Bill. How are you good, John?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:06):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
So the appeal has just been filed this morning, or
it's about to be filed.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Where are we in the process?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, we follow or notice of appeal yesterday and just
minutes ago we filed an emergency motion for a stay
with the Ninth Circuit asking the Ninth Circuit to intervene
and put a hold on this order until we can
have it fully briefed.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Now.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
The order that the judge issued says that the agents
can't use race, ethnicity, speaking with an accent, being at
a bus stop or a day labor site or a
car wash, you know, the typical sites you might encounter
illegal alien men looking for work or loitering around. So
are you saying ICE is not doing that or that
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if they do, it's protected, it's legal.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, there's a lot going on here, but let's just
be very clear. This is law fair by a bunch
of activist groups, including the ASLU, and their intentions are
to stop immigration enforcement in the LA area. That's the
purpose of this litigation. The basis of our appeal is
there's multiple reasons we believe this order street put on hold.
(02:15):
First of all, the way this thing was brought about
is completely improper. John, They tried to bring a lawsuit
a few weeks ago and they drew not a favorable
judge who denied their lawsuit. So what they've been doing
is filing smaller cases. They filed a couple habeas cases
where it's individuals saying they've been individually been harmed. Once
they found a judge they liked, they took that case
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and they mended it into a class action case, which
is what this case is now. And they filed it
on the eve of fourth of July, where we had
very little time to actually respond in substance. But what
I can tell you is we do not detain people
without reasonable suspicion. So the whole premise of this lawsuit
is just false. What they did is they cherry picked
a few examples. They said, look, they violated these particular
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people rights. We didn't really have a full opportunity to
present evidence on that. Based on those few cases, she
issued this ruling. And so we're appealing it because one,
we don't do this. We already follow the law. We
use reasonable suspicion when we detain anybody. And secondly, what
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they're trying to set up here John is basically like
a federal court monitor. So this is more just in
a court order. She's going to be monitoring all of
the immigration enforcement activities. She could hold individual agents and contempt.
She wants us to basically submit regular reports to the
ACLU on all our detentions and the basis for detention.
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She's going to order us to do specific trainings and policies.
This is basically the digicial branch getting involved in how
the executive branch goes about doing its work.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
How does a judge think they can take over the
Department of Homeland Security and institute immigration policy? That is
that is the presidential power period. I mean, that's been
ruled over and over again by the Supreme Court that
it's up to the executive branch of the government to
decide how this operates.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, and that's what we're arguing in our appeal. We're
taking it up. This is why we have appellate courts.
We disagree with the arguments in the district court. And
one of the cases we cite is the recent US
Supreme Court case where they said, you know, you can't
do these nationwide injunctions on these cases, and in our case,
this is a district wide injunction. The relief has to
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be tied to the claims of the party. So here
the individuals who claim they were picked up by ice,
they're not at risk of being picked up again. There's
no foreseeable harm for them, so there's no reason to
have a prospective order ruled. But you know, they did
it anyway. So that's one of the cases that we're
citing to the Ninth Circuit is the recent Supreme Court
case which said that courts aren't supposed to be doing
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these kind of orders anymore, these wide sweeping injunctions regulating
our conduct. That's the Supreme Court is said they don't
want to see those.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
So the issue is firing filing these cases on behalf
of illegal immigrants who've been picked up or are these
people they turned out not to be here illegally.
Speaker 3 (05:11):
They're either turned out not to be here illegally, or
they had some sort of status and you know, sometimes
for whatever reason, that happens. But as soon as they
figure out what their status is and then they get released,
I mean, look, mistakes happen. The standard is reasonable suspicion, John,
It's a very very low threshold. It's lower than probable cause.
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But if they have reasonable suspicion you're in the country
and lawfully, and you don't have proof on you that
you are, that you're here lawfully, then they can detain
you to ascertain whether you're here legally or not.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Is ICE picking people up off the street? What constitutes
reasonable suspicion?
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay, So most of what we do, we do do
a lot of targeted enforcements, So we're out looking for
specific bad people that we know are in the country
here and lawfully. But there is also we are doing
general immigr enforcement as well that is happening. They do
operate on tips, on training, on experience, on work sites
where they know there's a high likelihood that people are
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operating there who are not here legally. I mean, it's
not a stretch John that if you're a day laborer
at the home depot, you're probably not here lawfully. But
they don't just go off that. They do go and
they conducted an investigation, and a lot of it is
how people behave around Border patrol. You and I, John
probably would not start running when we saw a Border
Patrol agent throwing that out there.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Right, So you could start by saying, Hey, there's twelve
guys at the home depot and they're standing around and
it looks like they're day laborers. It looks like they're
here illegally based on why they're at home depot, right,
they're not walking in and out and buying supplies, and
then you show up and if they start to scatter,
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that creates some more reasonable suspicion and that's all protected
under the law under the constitution.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Correct. Yeah, the courts have said reasonable suspicion is based
on the totality of the circumstances. It's a very nuanced
and fact specific inquiry. And when an agent detains someone,
they do prepare a report and they articulate what their
reasonable suspicion is. We didn't even have an opportunity to
present all that evidence of the judge because we again,
they filed this on the eve of fourth of July,
and we had very like I think we had one
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or two days to respond to, like this fifty page
complaint that they've obviously spent weeks preparing against the government.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
All right, BILLI Stanley, thank you for coming on and
explaining all this.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
No, anytime, Yes, we'll go up on appeal. We'll see
what happens.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Yeah, where do you think the appeal case will be
heard and a decision will come down.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
Well, we're asking for an emergency stay, so the court
can act at any time. They could act as soon
as today if they wanted to. But we will continue
doing immigration enforcement operations that comply with the law and
the court order. So I don't want people to think
that we've stopped working.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We're not, all right, And it only applies to the
central District here in the Los Angeles area anyway, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, about half of California.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
All right, Yeah, just a small little sliver. Okay, all right, Bill,
we'll talk again soon. Thank you, all right, thank you,
uh Los Angeles US Attorney Bill Asale.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
We'll have more coming up on all this.
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No reading test, no writing test. No, you know what.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
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He lost three different times. Finally when he found it,
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Speaker 1 (09:18):
I'm a ten. You're an eight, he said, he was
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Speaker 2 (09:33):
He's a private citizen now now, he'd sue, okay, at ten,
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Speaker 1 (09:40):
Thank you, John. And you read well too, oh, thank you? Okay,
all right.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
We just had Bill asaleon and Bill is the US
Attorney for the Central District of California and campus encompassing
the entire Los Angeles area and well beyond and uh.
The Trump administration is appealing an l judge's ruling. The
judge is ma Ami OWUSI Mensa Frimpong. She it's a
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she and a Biden appointee, and she has decided, as
Bill explained, that she will dictate immigration policy in the
Los Angeles area, not the federal government. And Bill went
through all the reasons I won't I won't repeat it.
We will be following up on this story later.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The appeal is UH could be acted on at any
moment if this the ninth Quarter of Appeals makes a
quick decision. In the meantime, I want to give a
good amount of time to this story in the National
Review because this explains so much. I'm not going to
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be repetitious about this either. Where you know, you just
constantly complain about how left wing the media is, how
how intensely misleading it is, how they outright lie. I
think if you listen to this show, you've accepted this
is a fact of life. However, it's impossible not to
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have all the lies and distortions and the misleading statements
seep into your head. And as you know, there are
many people in this country that actually take the media
at its word and actually believe in it. They have
faith and trust. Now maybe it's only down to thirty percent,
(11:31):
but it's still thirty percent. The National Review, one of
their writers put together a story on all the different
ways that newspapers and television stations are misrepresenting the ICE story,
the immigration enforcement story. I'm going to go through these.
(11:55):
I'm going to go through every one of them. They
printed in the National Review, so you understand what we're
dealing with. We're dealing with an entire institution in America,
the media that willfully intentionally lies and distorts and exaggerates
and downplays anything to do. Will specifically hear Trump's immigration
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success and what ICE is doing just out and out
falsehoods or downplaying something to the point of extreme distortion.
Here's the first example. They used Cincinnati Inquirer, major newspaper
there headline Cincinnati children's chaplain detained by Ice. Now, what's
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the picture in your head when you hear that a
children's chaplain is detained by Ice? Probably a nice, gentle,
elderly man who is roughed up and dragged away by
his heels by some over z bullying set of ICE
agents because maybe there was a paperwork error somewhere in
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his past. No, this chaplain is an Egyptian. His asylum
status was revoked in December by the Biden administration. Biden administration,
the chaplain was flagged on the FBI's terror watch list
(13:25):
during a background check. The chaplain is claiming that his
fingerprints that led to his being flagged are not his.
Somebody stole his fingerprints. Maybe somebody cut off his fingers.
I don't know how that would happen. You see the
headline Cincinnati Children's chaplain detained by Ice, and it takes
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a number of paragraphs, because it takes a number of
paragraphs before you learn that chaplain has filed multiple lawsuits
against the federal government, most of which have been dismissed.
One remains pending. That should be in the headline, Egyptian
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chaplain on the terror watch list, arrested by Ice. That's
what it should say, not children's chaplain. That's just the beginning.
I mean that the Cincinnati Inquirer just outright lied by
not pointing out that this was a terror watch list
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immigrant that the Biden administration wanted kicked out of the country.
Here's another one. The media uses the term Indiana man
to described an illegal forty three year old Mexican national,
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and that's one of the tricks they use. They don't
write that, Hey, this guy is a Mexican illegal, or
even a Mexican undocumented, or or whatever country he's from.
Suddenly all these people get described by the state that
they're currently living in. If he's arrested in Indiana, he's
an Indiana man. He's not an illegal alien from Mexico
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or Brazil or Sri Lanka or Ecuador.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
No, it's from Indiana.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
In other words, innocent American citizen beat up by ice
Do you remember what they called the guy who raped
and murdered Lake and Riley, a poor girl from the
University of Georgia. He was described as an Athens Man,
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as in Athens, Georgia, because he lived and raped and
murdered in the city of Athens, and so the news
media wrote Athens Man. Ice cream man was used to
refer to a seventy one year old Lebanese national who
was deported to be route from Michigan for war crimes.
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War crimes, and the media described him as an ice
cream man. In fact his crimes, he was accused of
torturing and killing two Irish soldiers way back in the
nineteen eighties, came to this country and started selling ice cream,
I guess out of the back of the truck. How
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about the Russian national who was caught smuggling Petri dishes
into the United States. He was described as a Harvard researcher.
They found messages, Well, actually it was a she. They
found messages on her phone indicating she planned to smuggle
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the materials and was trying to evade detection. I guess
this was some sort of contagious disease she had smuggled
into the country. How About an Indian citizen from India
whose father in law is a former high ranking Hamas official.
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That person was described as a Georgetown scholar. How about
doctor recipient who came to the US when he was
four years old deported. Well, again, you got to go
through dozens of paragraphs before mentioning that the deported child
had been ordered removed during the Biden administration, presumably with
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his family, that the parole document he received was issued
in error. Here's another one, veteran who's been in the
US since he was four faces deportation before, and you
have to go through many paragraphs before you find out
this veteran and fire on a house party, on a
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crowd at a house party in Colorado Springs, hitting a
pregnant nineteen year old in the leg. You see what
it sees what I'm saying if you call them an
Indiana man, an Athens man, a veteran who's been here
since the age of four, and on and on and on,
and then way deep in the story you point out, oh, well,
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he shot up a house party, hit a pregnant girl.
Oh he raped and murdered a girl at college. I mean,
the all time classic was that that that monster from
L Salvador, Abrego Garcia who Trump deported to the prison
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in L Salvador, and he was described as a Maryland Man.
Here's a headline, US renews opposition to bringing Maryland man
wrongly deported to El Salvador. President Buclea rejects returning Maryland
man Trump officials mistakenly deported. Outrage grows over Maryland man's
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mistaken deportation to El Salvador prison. He's never a Maryland
man who was an illegal alien gangster from El Salvador
who is involved in human smuggling and beat the crap
out of his wife repeatedly. Got more coming up.
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that's what you listen to and catch up on. You
catch up on what you missed. If you're just joining
us now, you already missed. Bill asaleon the US Attorney
here in Los Angeles. He and his office has filed
an appeal with the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals to
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challenge a ruling by a district court judge saying that
the Trump administration here was engaging in profiling and that
they did not have reasonable suspicion to be rounding up
some of the illegal immigrants. The easiest example is at
a home depot, as Sali says, we're not doing that.
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There are a number of factors that go into who
we arrest or detain, and they're fighting that ruling at
the US District at the Court of Appeals in the
Ninth Circuit. This judge Miami Awusi Mensa Frimpong, and she,
in addition to that, wrote another directive micromanaging, telling Ice
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and Department of Homeland Security and Trump how you're supposed
to round up illegal aliens. Well, she doesn't set the policy.
Federal government does. The executive branch does. These are the
kind of judges that we're dealing with, a Biden appointee
from a couple of years ago. We're waiting to see
if that appeals decision is going to come down this afternoon.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
It could now.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Second segment spent a lot of time on all the
lies and misleading headlines about the ice raids and the
arrests and the detainment and the deportations. For example, they
described one guy in Cincinnati as being a children's chaplain,
and it turned out he was an Egyptian citizen whose
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asylum status was revoked by the Biden administration because he
was on the FBI terror watch list.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
We had a fresh.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Example right here in the LA area this weekend. Kt
LA Channel five they pulled one of these misdirection plays.
If you go online, you look on x they tweeted
out California State University channel islands is calling for the
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immediate release of one of their professors who is detained
during a protest on Thursday.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
Now.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
They put this tweet out on Sunday yesterday at eleven am.
By then they knew the truth but they didn't put
it in the tweet. The truth was he was detained
and arrested for throwing a tear gas canister at federal
law enforcement at ICE agents a tear gas canister, and
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somehow Channel five or whoever wrote this social media post
didn't know that, or I suspect intentionally downplayed it to
make it look like you had educators being pulled off
the street by the Nazis in the Department of Homeland Security.
By the way, have you seen the mugshot of this guy?
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I'm assuming this is a mugshot. What a kook.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
You had a big smile.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
A big smile, bad teeth though. One thing when you
show off your teeth like that, they are yellow. A
couple of them are brown. The guy has a brown smile.
He's got wild hair, oversized glasses, bugged out eyes, and
a scraggly growth of beard. He looks insane. I thought
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this when I first glanced at this, I thought it
was a story about a homeless guy. I did, like
a crazy drug addict, guy that committed some kind of
terrible crime. And then I look and see it's one
of these idiot protesters. And then I see he's a
cal State Channel Islands professor. Well, we got an actual
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televised story from Channel five KTLA reporter Carlos Soceto. I
think by this time they caught up as to why
he was detained, So play it.
Speaker 6 (23:46):
The professor is being hell behind me in isolation of this.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
According to his attorney.
Speaker 6 (23:51):
As you mentioned, he was arrested last week protesting.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Oh ray that was occurring at a farm in Camera Rio.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
But US officials are now accused being that professor of
throwing a tear gas canister at law enforcement.
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Many of my students are undocumented, and many of their
families are undocumented. It's my responsibility to protect them, and
so I've been patrolling the city streets following armed mask
thugs trying to kidnap my neighbors.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Wait, it's not that.
Speaker 2 (24:20):
This guy says he's got illegal alien students in his class,
and we're paying for this. Cal State Channel Alans obviously
is a taxpayer paid college, right, so we're supplying the
tax money. He's got a legal alien students. We're paying
this guy's salary, and now he's his own. His own
(24:44):
vigilante is a vigilante un running around to try to
interfere with federal officials. He's taken it upon himself to
throw a tear gas canister. This guy's employed by US,
he's working for US, and he's throwing tear gas ca
miss at federal immigration agents.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Back that up and play this thing again.
Speaker 7 (25:09):
It's my responsibility to protect them, and so I've been
patrolling the city streets following armed masked thugs trying to
kidnap my neighbors.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
That's video of Professor at Jonathan Caravello speaking out against
the Trump administration's immigration enforcement crackdown during public comment at
last week's council meeting Incomerio. The CSU channel Islet's professor
was detained during the immigration raid at Glasshouse Farms on Thursday. Caravello,
a US citizen, was there protesting when he was arrested
(25:38):
by authorities. Many of his supporters, including the campus, call
his arrests unlawful, claiming that Caravello was peacefully protesting when
the situation escalated. They're demanding his immediate release.
Speaker 8 (25:50):
Now, we spoke with one of his colleagues and his attorneys.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Did they mention the tear gas canister?
Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yet they did at the beginning At the beginning Okay,
not not emphasizing it much though. Now it's quoting the
other people at the college saying this is an unfair risk.
You imagine they're law enforcement officers, They're like cops, They're
like sheriff's deputies. You can't throw a tear gas cannion.
(26:19):
What do you think is going to happen? If you
do that. That's a federal crime. You can go to
federal prison for it.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
What the hell?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Now?
Speaker 1 (26:26):
Now the people at the at cal State.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Channel Islands, they're protesting that this nutbag was taken in play.
Speaker 8 (26:35):
Some more colleagues and his attorney after she was finally
able to meet with him, she says he's being treated
like a high risk violent criminal, being kept in isolation.
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The professor was protecting his students.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
He did share with.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Me that he was not trying to interfere with any
of the investigation that was happening.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
He was simply there to help support and so he.
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Feels that his arrest was unjustified.
Speaker 9 (27:06):
He is just such a gentle person and an amazing colleague, and.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
He's a passionate speaker.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
But I could not imagine him him being in any trouble.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Carvello is a well known community activist who says many
of his students are undocumented, so he was exercising his
First Amendment right to protest the ongoing raids. However, US
Attorney Bill Asali put out a statement saying Carvello was
not kidnapped by federal agents. He was arrested for throwing
a tear gas canister at law enforcement and is facing
(27:42):
serious federal charges.
Speaker 8 (27:43):
Now things got ugly when protesters.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
Closed a second.
Speaker 2 (27:47):
This is exactly what I was talking about in the
previous segment. Why did Channel five and this reporter Carlos
Soceido downplay that the US Attorney is filing a case
that he threw that, this Jonathan Caravello through a tear
gas canister at ice agents a federal crime, very dangerous
to do that, and it was buried under an avalanche
(28:12):
of character witnesses testifying to how wonderful and gentle and
communities civic minded and organized, and he's protecting his students.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
It's like that is not his job. He's a professor.
Speaker 2 (28:25):
His job is not to interfere with federal investigations. These
people have lost their minds. They have lost their freaking minds.
They think they're now vigilantes against the federal government and
that they're justified in what they do so they can
injure or kill ICE agents and it's cool. And then
(28:50):
according to Channel four, there's a vigil being held for
this whack job, a vigil Sunday in front of the
Tention Center in downtown LA. They were demanding the release
of Jonathan Caravvello. Well, if he gets convicted, he's going
to be a federal felon and he's going to be
(29:10):
locked up in a federal prison.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
What a bunch of nies.
Speaker 4 (29:15):
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Speaker 2 (30:08):
Uh, we just played a Channel five story. Channel five
had had posted on on x a couple of lines
about a cal State Channel Islands professor a real freak
nut job, and the line said that cal State Channel
(30:32):
Islands calling for the immediate release of one of their
professors who was detained during a protest on Thursday, and
then didn't have a single word as to why he
was detained. It wasn't to take away his First Amendment
rights of free speech and the right to protest. It
was because he threw a tear gas canister at ice agents.
(30:52):
So we went to the audio of Carlos saida because
that was the thing I just read. Was was a
post and Carlos say it briefly mentions the tear gas
charge at the beginning.
Speaker 1 (31:04):
But then the bulk of the story was.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
Is testimony from cal State University adults and students saying
how wonderful this guy is and how much he cares.
And it's complete with a clip of him testifying before
some government body as to why he does this, and
he thinks it's his job now to.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
A normal person.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Sometimes I feel like I sound like an idiot because
I'm explaining something obvious that any normal person would understand.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
But look at all these lunatics.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
A tear gas canister thrown at somebody could hurt them
very badly.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
And clearly.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
If you look at this photo, this guy looks just
absolutely insane, just unhinged. Anthony Caravello, I've also seen Caravovevello
depending on the media account.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
The media accounts are so bad.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
I don't know if they're written by AI or they're
written by some sixteen year old interns.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I don't know. But there's so many.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Have you noticed this stepper, so many misspellings, so much
just gibberish in the copy.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I have noticed a lot of crap. Yeah, there's a
lot of crap.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
They have very young, very inexperienced, and untalented people who
are type it, and sometimes the information is wrong or
they're emphasizing the wrong part of the story. Carlos Orsato,
and I don't know, did he write this story? Somebody
wrote it for him? Why is ninety percent of the
story about what a wonderful character this professor is and
(32:42):
then at the very end, at the very end, he
reads Bill A. Saley's official statement on why they're pressing
charges against this lunatic. Now, I don't understand why the
Channel fied news department was the first news department in
Los Angeles. When I got here, it was considered one
of the gold standards of local news, just filled with
(33:04):
many famous reporters and anchors. And now they do this
piece of garbage story where it's mostly mostly a tongue
bath for a lunatic professor and very little time spent
on the dangerous felony that they say he committed.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
That's a complete version of the news process, a complete
bastardization of what you're supposed to do as a news reporter.
And again, I don't know if it's Carlos Sosto, somebody
wrote for him, there was an editor who got involved,
or a producer or what the hell.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Is going on?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
But it's not just him and Channel five, it's all
the channels. It's Channel seven. A few weeks ago, remember
we talked about the father and son who was deported
from Torrance, and they did this whole sob story. They
even interviewed them in it was the country they were
deported to, somewhere in sentral America. And then it turned out, oh,
they've been deported twice before, twice before by the Biden
(34:07):
administration in the last few years. This was their third deportation.
But they didn't they didn't mention it in the Channel
seventh story at all. It's such intentionally false information by design.
(34:27):
So I'm wondering, what day, because I know Channel five
used to do one of the best jobs I'd ever
seen in news. What day did somebody at Channel five
get up and say, Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Here are the new rules.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
We're going all woke here now, we're going all resistance
against anything connected to Trump. We're going we're going against
We're going to do cheerleading for illegal aliens. We're gonna
do cheerleading for the violent protesters, the criminals. They should
be doing an expose on how Churlie got thirty four
million dollars of our tax money to help incite and
(35:01):
encourage the riot. That's what they should be doing a
Channel five. What's gone wrong there? What kind of insanity
has gone wrong? So I'm supposed to get up in
the morning and watch the Channel five Morning News or
watch their new newscast or I think they got news
running like seventeen hours a day. It seems I'm supposed
to watch them and think, oh, I'm getting a straight
story here, I'm getting the full truth. What's with the
(35:25):
incessant SOB stories either about the immigrants or the character
studies of the protesters.
Speaker 1 (35:32):
These are violent protesters. I heard.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Somebody what was I listening listening to today? Somebody in
the Trump administration or an ice absolutely beside himself. Oh,
it was a former Border patrol official, obviously beside himself
at the violence of these protesters because they're throwing rocks,
(35:57):
and they're throwing bottles, and they're throwing tear gas canisters.
And he said, you know, somebody's gonna die here, somebody's
gonna die. You've got this is so violent and barbaric
and wrong. And all these people ought to be arrested
and put into federal prison for a long time, and
instead they're being glorified by by all these writers and reporters.
(36:22):
I mean, I mean, I'm the journalism is being completely
destroyed by the woke generation. There is no possible way
I can turn on Channel five tomorrow, especially if I'm
watching an immigration story and believe a single word they say.
And one of the things is I don't know what
they're they're omitting. I don't know what's missing from the
story like.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
This guy.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
Well, I'll just go by the post one more time.
Cal State University Channel Islands calling for the immediate release
of one of their professors who is detained during a
protest on Thursday. No mention of the tear gas can
he threw at the Ice agents, which is why he's
being detained in a federal detention center and he's going
(37:08):
to be charged with federal crimes. Channel five does not
put that on their X post. All right, we come back,
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