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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:06):
Welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and media personality, was shot
dead today while on stage at Utah Valley University, an
event that his organization, Turning Point USA was sponsoring. He
was giving a presentation, he was taking question and answers
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from the audience, and somebody from far off sniper fired
a bullet and got him in the neck, and he
died at the hospital a short time later. One of
Donald Trump's closest outside advisors politically has organized a million
young people, by the millions to get involved in conservative
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causes and supported Donald Trump. We'll talk more about that,
but first we're going to go to Josh mar Golan
from ABC News with the latest.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Josh, Hey, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Yeah, Hey, it's it's another another episode of political violence today.
We all saw it on video. You know, it seems
to be one gun shot from an elevated position, and
you know it proved to be fatal.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Yeah, that's one of the most gruesome videos I've ever
seen in my life. That's curently traumatizing to look at.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
Yeah, people were actually wondering whether it was AI or
somehow computer generator or something. But law enforcement believes that
it's it's legit, and it's it's terribly legit, and we
know that there is no suspect in custody, though law
enforcement does appear to know or believe they know who
they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, I would imagine there must be plenty of cameras
at the university to track this doesn't appear that.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
The shot at this point, doesn't appear the shot came
out of the crowd. Yeah, it's obviously to be cameras everywhere.
We live in a society where everything's on camera, and
that that just looking at the feeds the campus in
that section of the campus seems to be pretty modern,
so you know, with modern construction comes modern security. So
but it does look like the shot came to look
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like to law enforcements. Just what do I know? But
law enforcement believes the shot came from far off, maybe
several hundred yards off in the distance, at an elevated position.
Speaker 2 (02:24):
And we've seen that before.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
You know, that's exactly the type of thing that happened
with President Trump with the assassination attempt on him in
Pennsylvania last year, and.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Very difficult to prevent, even.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Sean, you know, yes, yes, and no, you know it's
difficult to prevent if you don't properly secure the area.
I don't want to cast dispersions, and obviously there's going
to be an investigation, but if you and I know
that elevated positions can prove dangerous in a crowd situation,
then you block off the elevated position, right. I mean,
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we've seen elevated positions being dangerous since the Kennedy assassination.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Yeah, I I you know, it seems like such a peaceful,
tranquil setting or in Utah at that university. Maybe it
just didn't occur to anybody that maybe.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
But we do we do know going in it was
a very controversial event, and we have reports from the
crowd that it was not It was not simply a
crowd that was in love with that it was And
I don't want to cast this versions and I don't
want to suggest that somebody did something wrong, but we
do know that going in that the crowd was split.
There there was it was controversial that he was coming
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to begin with, and we do know that there were
people in the crowd that were opposed to him, certainly
not the majority, but they were vocal and they were there, right,
and we know that it was a big crowd, So
so this was a controversial. We know that he had
security with him obviously. You know, as you say about
the location of the of the shooter, that it's entirely
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possible that that his own security detail that he had
with him would not have been able to security the
elevated position off in the distance. But obviously the university's
police department or public safety agency would be aware of it,
certainly the local police department. So this was it does
seem like it's a beautiful tranquil environment, but this was
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not going to be a tranquil event necessarily.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
No.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
I mean, he does like to engage with the other
side politically. He's known for having civil conversations, but some
of his views are come across as quite incendiary.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Absolutely, And we're living in a time right now of
of heightened anger and hostility, and the politics is both
a part of it and a result of it. You know,
it's chicken and egg kind of thing. But people are
angry out there. People are angry. Look in your community,
you see that there are people that are angry about
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what's going.
Speaker 5 (04:58):
On in of right now with the law enforce, deployments
of National guards, post law, all the all of this,
all right, Hang, hang on a second.
Speaker 1 (05:12):
You started to break up badly, so, uh, let me
see what we can do about that. We're talking with
Josh Margolin with the ABC News about conservative media personality
and activist organizer Charlie Kirk shot and killed in front
of a large crowd on stage at Utah Valley University.
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He was hosting an event there and sitting under acadopy,
speaking to hundreds of people through a microphone and answering
a question from the audience, and suddenly a loud pop
is heard and a bullet ripped through his neck and
Cornel Alla Times got him in the carotid artery, according
to their sources, and within I guess in a short
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time he is declared dead at the hospital. I'm looking
at some video on CNN. It looked like they were
showing an overhead shot of the rooftop where perhaps the
assassin had had fired from the assassin's still on the loose.
According to a Fox News source, Trump announced Charlie Kirk's
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death Charlie Kirk was very much a very high profile
activist and advisor to Donald Trump. And we have any
luck reconnecting with Okay, we're gonna wait for him to
call back to give you an idea the According to
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Matthew Body, a professor of rhetoric at the University of
North Georgia, he's written a forthcoming book about Christian nationalism
that features Charlie Kirk and his influence, and he said,
Charlie Kirk, as I would say, the most influential person
who doesn't work in the White House. And let's get
to Josh margoin back on. Yeah, yeah, Josh, So you
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start breaking up badly there.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
We guess we're talking about the political environment. I mean,
there's there's all the stuff that's going on and people
have these views, but we're living in this era of
political violence. You know, there was the attack on Governor
Shapiro's home in Pennsylvania. The first night had passover earlier
this year, we obviously have the two Trump attempted assassinations
last year. In fact, one of the guys in the
second the second attempt with Trump, the one where the
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gunman didn't get a shot off. He's going on trial
in Florida this week. It's it's just this terrible period
right now. We had the shooting of the Israeli embassy
employees at the museum in the spring, and.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
It seems to be these lone wolves who most of
the time are responsible for these shootings.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
It certainly does, and that's what law enforcement says. And
the lone wolves are the hardest to defend against because
somebody who's planning something, there's no way to get inside
somebody's head, right so they end up going back. And
did the people leave trails for their family or friends
to let them know what they were doing? In some
cases yes, and obviously those are missignals. But in some
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cases there's no way to know what somebody is intending
right now. I could have something in my mind. Just
because I'm thinking about what I'm having for dinner doesn't
mean that I'm not somebody who instead is thinking about
who I might want to hurt. That's the reality of it.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Yeah, I mean, and there's so much incendiary stuff and
nonsense online now with social media. I mean, there's a
lot of people who spend their days getting all wound
up and crazy against whatever the other side is in
their lives, and you know, it's made a lot of
people crazy. It's amplified all the natural insanity that human
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beings have, and it's amplified a million times over now.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Right, and coming out of the pandemic, it's amplified even
beyond that. We were told by experts in sort of
like law enforcement, psychology and the reality of health emergencies
that should expect coming out of the pandemic, that there
would be a lot of ills, a lot of problems,
and we one by one started seeing all of them
play out and increase in domestic violence, people stuck at
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home with each other, people who had issues, and increase
in substance abuse, and increase in in alcoholism, and increase
in loneliness, and increase, you know, the fear that people
we all were living through during the pandemic, not knowing
if we're going to stay healthy, or people in our family,
all of these things. Then social media really is just
the amplifier and in some way the igniter that sets
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people off.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
All right, Josh, thanks for coming on with us. Hey,
I have a great day, Josh mar Golan, ABC News.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
We come back.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
We're going to play you a clip of Jason Chafitz,
a former congressman. Now he's a Fox News commentator and host,
and he was there at Utah Valley University when Charlie
Kirk was murdered, and he had a lot of emotional
things to say on Fox a short time ago. We're
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going to play that tape back for you.
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Speaker 1 (10:39):
Run every day from one until four o'clock. After four
o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand. Charlie Kirk the conservative
activist and media personality with millions of followers, turning Point
usas as organization. He's among the closest outside advisors to
Donald Trump, and he has organized millions of young people.
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Got him interested in Republican conservative Trump causes. He's assassinated today,
just shot dead while speaking to a crowd sitting on
stage at Utah Valley University of all places, and a
bullet got him in the neck and he died shortly
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thereafter at the hospital. Trump announced his death on Truth
Social He's very well known in political and media circles.
Coming up in a few minutes, we're gonna play you
some clips of his podcast when Agavin Newsom was a guest,
and a lot of people if you weren't familiar with
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Charlie Kirk, became familiar with him after hearing the back
and forth. The clips were played everywhere of he and Newsom.
We're gonna play you now, Jason Chase. It's a former congressman.
Uh and he he uh was very close with Charlie Kirk.
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And I believe he's from Utah and his wife and
friends were at the event when Kirk was killed, and
I believe he Chafits was as well. I don't know
if this was broadcast like before they announced that Kirk
was dead. It seems that way, but we're gonna We're
gonna play it was quite emotional.
Speaker 7 (12:31):
Jason Chafit's on the phone, Jason.
Speaker 8 (12:33):
We were reading some of your social media posts. You
were there, you witnessed this, what happened.
Speaker 9 (12:39):
Well, there's you know, it's a good crowd. A lot
of people were channing his name. I was there, My
daughter was their son in law is there, my wife
was there. I mean, Charlie Kirk coming to town. It's
we were excited and people were there and there were
lots of them, and you know, he he came out,
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he was throwing hats, riling up the crowd. He took
his first question, which was that's catch my breath trying
to run into.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
The house here, you know.
Speaker 9 (13:16):
I took a first question, which.
Speaker 8 (13:17):
Was a religious question.
Speaker 9 (13:19):
And then he got to the second question, which was
about thirty minutes into his presentation two thirty local time,
and and the question was about transgender shooters mass killings
versus people that weren't transgender, and when that happened, when
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that question came out, and he's and you know he's
going to have the interaction one shot. I was watching Charlie.
I can't say that I saw blood. I can't say
that I saw him get hit, but I did see
him fall immediately backwards into his left and I can
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open pray that somehow he survived that.
Speaker 10 (14:02):
My God, we're all praying. He's married to his wife,
Erica for four years now. Jason, obviously you're visibly and
very emotional, obviously having just witnessed this, married to Erica
for four years, two children, a son and a daughter.
All we can do is pray right now until we
get an update on what exactly happened here in his
condition but we know Charlie. We've seen and heard from
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many times over the years. He's been a very present
conservative through the Trump movement, leading students. And to your point, Jason,
you said he came to town, We came to listen. He
has an enormous following and so many supporters that obviously
would be praying for him right now.
Speaker 9 (14:43):
Jason, Well, I traded text messages with him. I traded
text message with him with ahead of time, and I said, Hey, Charlie,
I hope they get a chance to see you. Our
family like to see you again, and.
Speaker 8 (14:59):
We still to see him again.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
So he he said, he's going to go for a
few hours and you know, maybe we could see him afterwards.
But gosh, it's just he's there doing the right thing,
you know, and it's so great to see all these
twenty year olds enthusiastic about politics in the world and
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to have an open dialogue.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay, that's Jason Chafit's former Utah congressman, now a commentator
and hosts for Fox News, and he and his wife
and friends were at the event where Charlie Kirk was
shot to death at Utah Valley University. To give you
an idea of his influence. He has a daily radio
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show on the Salem Radio Network, a podcast that gets
hundreds of thousands of downloads every day. He's got five
million followers on X, seven million followers on TikTok, almost
four million subscribers on YouTube, another million and a half
on the social media outlet Rumble, and Megan Kelly said
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it's not an understatement to say that this man is
responsible for helping the Republicans win back the White House
and the US Senate by targeting. That's the end of
her quote. What he did is he targeted young people
and got them excited and energized about.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Conservative causes.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Some of his opinions were controversial, and some people thought
they were in sendi area, and you could see how
he could whip up, you know, some fanatics to want
to take him out if that turns out to be
the case. And there were petitions and protests at the campus,
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which is very common when conservative speakers are scheduled to
have an event. That certainly was a real problem some
years ago with Berkeley. Every time they tried to book
somebody who's from the right, there was all kinds of protests.
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You know, he was accused of turning of turning turning
Point USA into an arm of Christian nationalism. And there
is no suspect in custody yet. The one guy that
they detained and handcuffed that people thought it was an
older man. It turned out not to be the shooter.
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I don't know who he was or why they picked
on him, but the police definitely had somebody that they
had on his knees on the ground. When we come back,
we'll play you some clips of Charlie Kirk hosting Gavin Newsom.
You may remember this from a few months ago. The
big news story that came out of that is Kirk
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got Newsom to admit that maybe having transgenders boys in
women's sports men and women's sports boys and girl sports
was a bad idea. We'll play you some of those
clips when we come back.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
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Speaker 1 (18:15):
We're on every day from one until four. You just
heard a news clip there about Gavin Newsom coming out
and saying how violent, disgusting this assassination of Charlie Kirk is.
And to put this all into context, Kirk had much
to say about the transgender movement and boys playing in
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girls sports men playing in women's sports in college, and
was discussing that with an audience member at the exact
moment the shot rang out. An audience member said, do
you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters
over the last ten years? Kirk says too many. That
audience member said, well, it's five, and then asked Kirk
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if he knows how many mass shooters they've been in
America over the last ten years, and Kirk said, counting
or not counting gang violence, and a couple of seconds later,
that's when the shot hit him in the neck and
killed him. Newsom had made a lot of headlines. I
want to make one correction. It was Charlie Kirk on
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Gavin Newsom's podcast when Newsom was hosting right wing figures
as guests. I had it reversed before and they had
a couple of exchanges on transgenders in sports, and Kirk
got Newsom to reassess the idea of allowing this sort
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of thing.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
So we play that that extra cut you have, What do.
Speaker 7 (19:49):
You do, seriously, Charlie Kirk, give us some of the
better ideas, Governor, like, for example, I mean, like, if
you want to, like, you have an opportunity to, like,
you know, run to the middle and see this man's office.
You're talking to me about people you right now should
come out and be like, you know what, the young
man who's about to win the state championship in the
long jump in female sports, right, that's that that shouldn't happen.
You as the governor should step out and.
Speaker 8 (20:10):
Say no, no, And I appreciate and.
Speaker 7 (20:12):
Like, would you do something like that? Would you say
no men in female sports?
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely
agree with you on that. It is an issue affair.
So it's deeply did.
Speaker 7 (20:20):
You speak out against this young man, baby Hernandez, who
right now is going to win the state championship in
the long time?
Speaker 8 (20:25):
So see you wrestling with it? No, I'm not wrestling.
I'm not realationing with the fairness issue. I totally agree
with you.
Speaker 4 (20:30):
By the way, as someone with four kids, you got
to have two daughters, right, two daughters. Had a daughter
and a wife that went god forbid to Stanford and
played on the junior national soccer team, and a guy
who got into college only because it was left handed
and could throw baseball a little bit or the hit
the ball for.
Speaker 8 (20:46):
A little bit.
Speaker 4 (20:47):
So I revere sports, and so the issue of fairness
is completely legit. And I saw that the last couple
of years. Boy did I saw how you guys were
able to weaponize that.
Speaker 11 (20:58):
Issue at another weaponize don't that's that's webinars maybe Pejordi,
You're right, but you were able to shine a light
on highlight it in a way that frankly, there are
not that many we're talking about I think N two
A what five hundred and ten thousand?
Speaker 8 (21:10):
No, No, but I just didn't realize.
Speaker 7 (21:12):
It's eight hundred ninety medals in trophies that we know
of in the last five years.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
That's a lot.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
No.
Speaker 4 (21:16):
So I'm gonna let me step back say completely fair
on the issue of fairness, I completely agree. So that's
easy to call out the unfairness of that. There's also
a humility and a grace. You know that that these
poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety
and depression, and the way that people talk down to
vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard
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time with as well. So both things I can hold
in my hand. How can we address this issue with
the kind of decency that I think you know is
inherent in you but not always expressed on the issue.
Speaker 8 (21:48):
No, I get it. At the same time, deal with
the un you're asked.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
You asked a good faith question, like how do we
Democrats get out of the wilderness? Yeah, this one is
an eighty twenty issue in your time's poll, right, that's all.
Speaker 8 (21:57):
I agree with you. We're getting crushed on and like crush.
Speaker 7 (21:59):
And you an opportunity in the state to be like, Look,
I have a heart for Aby Hernandez, I have a
heart for the San Jose volleyball player.
Speaker 8 (22:05):
Yeah, let's give them compassion.
Speaker 7 (22:07):
But what's not fair is just for like a woman's
entire woman's sports.
Speaker 8 (22:10):
I agree, you know by the way I agree with you.
I agree with you. And it's interesting. I stress tested
this child. I was wondering.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I said, you know, in California, and I've been a
leader in the LGBTQ places as face as you know,
back in two thousand and four was marrying sane sex couples.
And I know we have different opinion on marriage equality,
and so I've been at this for years and years.
I take a bad seat to no one. But I
was actually on the issue of sports, which in the
last few years has just exploded. Trying to understand and
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understand the ten athletes in the NC two A five
hundred and ten thousand athletes but ten outletes, and.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
You get the idea of the of course, do some
has not changed the policy in California at all. But
Kirk did corner him on that one. You could tell
that he's very smart and fearless. I'm going to play
cut five. This is more on transgenders, and this is
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about the way the Democrats view all their issues.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
But it goes to a broader arch narrative which is
important now. And I want to hear this, which is
this that that that you that the Democrats, you guys,
will tend to view an incident through an oppressor repressed Blens. Yeah,
it's your training, it comes from college, it comes from
and we as conservatives tend to view things through right
or wrong, or just or unjust. And the country is
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going far more in our direction and away from your direction,
because the problem with oppressor oppressed is eventually you run
out of oppressors and you start creating them out of
thin air, and you start trying to say, well, these
people must to be blamed for all of our problems,
or that's where you get a lot of the let's
just say a lot of For example, there's Wall Street
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Journal editorial like when will the white men shut up
or stop complaining?
Speaker 8 (23:50):
That does no good for anybody? Right, So what.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
I'm what I'm getting at, though, is it's a worldview.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Difficulty, right, And so that is why the issue is
so much more powerful.
Speaker 7 (23:59):
Of course it is because, but it's also pattern recognition.
It's pattern recognition of a Democrat party that post twenty twenty,
decided to go all and we call it woke, you
might call it you know, justice or whatever it is,
but it's so outside of what we would consider traditional
Americans norms and customs.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Charlie Kirk on Gavin Newsom's podcast, and again you could
see he had Newsom a bit cornered. Kirk made his
fame by having this ability to inspire millions of young
people to join conservative causes Trump Trump's campaign. And in
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this clip I'm going to play cut four, Newsom and
Kirk are talking about Newsom's niece being at a usc
event that Kirk had hosted and about Newsom's son wanting
to meet Kirk.
Speaker 8 (24:56):
We were just down at USC.
Speaker 7 (24:57):
I was at USC yesterday, drew a big crowd.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
By the way. I knew you were at USC early
because my niece, who's.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
Gradually she was going with the Maga hot on. She
was by the way.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
I do have to watch, but she was down there
and she was like, she said, you never know, these
kids are.
Speaker 8 (25:11):
Going to the right.
Speaker 4 (25:12):
I'm aware, she said, this crowd's crazy, he said, she said,
and she had and the only reason she said she
would have said it perhaps otherwise, but she knew you
were coming.
Speaker 8 (25:19):
On the worst part though, Charlie, there'll be a true story.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Literally last night, trying to put my son to bed,
he's like, no, Dad, I just what time.
Speaker 8 (25:27):
What time is Charlie going to be here?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
What time?
Speaker 8 (25:29):
And I'm like, dude, you're in school tomorrow. He's thirteen.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
He's like, no, no, this morning wakes up and sticks
up and he's like, I'm coming.
Speaker 8 (25:36):
I'm like. He literally would not leave the house. Did
you let him take off school?
Speaker 9 (25:40):
No?
Speaker 8 (25:40):
He did, of course not. He's not here for a
good reason. But the point is you canceled school for
two years once.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
All right, So that's uh Some Uh New Some's podcast
with Charlie Kirk as a guest, and so that gets
you familiar with Kirk's place in the media ecosystem and
the way he expresses his views.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
I don't know if it was.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
A coincidence that Kirk was killed while he was having
the exchange on transgenderism with the audience member, or if
that's what caused the shooter to pull the trigger. There's
no way to know that, no doubt this was a
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politically motivated killing, a hatred of what Kirk represents, a
message to Trump because Kirk was so high up in
the Trump hierarchy as an outside advisor and so responsible
for getting young people to come out and vote for Trump.
And you know, Trump already was targeted twice just last year.
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There's a lot of insanity going on. We'll continue coming
up more.
Speaker 6 (26:58):
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Speaker 1 (27:03):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock, and
we continue covering the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the conservative
activist and media personality millions and millions of followers. He's
organized millions of especially young people to get involved in
conservative causes. Huge supporter of Donald Trump and part of
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Trump's inner circle when it comes to outside advisors. And
he was shot while while sitting on stage. He was
hosting an event with his organization Turning Point USA, and
he takes does question and answer with anybody in the audience.
There were hundreds of people there at Utah Valley University.
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And he likes to mix it up with left wing people.
And we just played clips with Gavin Newsom. It's interesting
because you know his demeanor you could see is very
friendly and affable, but his views can make some people crazy.
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He is a Christian nationalist. He has deep evangelical faith
and he according to the La Times and take that
for what it's worth, whatever their or bias is. He
has described the current political climate as a state of
spiritual warfare between a righteous right wing and so called
godless liberals. Kirk has declared that God is on the
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side of American conservatives and there's no separation of church
and state. He gave a speech to Trump supporters in
Georgia last year and said the Democrat Party supports everything
that God hates and that there's a spiritual battle happening
all around us, and he's known for his memes his
college campus speaking tours. His goal is to own the libs.
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His debates with liberal college students have racked up ten
of millions of views, and he's got a popular radio show.
He's got a podcast that's downloaded by the hundreds of
thousands every day and does all these events. He's was married,
father of two small children, and he was shot in
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the neck and died at the hospital shortly thereafter. La
Time says he was hitting the carotid artery and lost
an enormous amount of blood. But in certain circles he
really was a rock star. And so that's why you
in case you're not familiar with him, I never assume
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everybody's familiar with every corner of the internet world, of
the political world. You may be wondering about the coverage.
He was a really, really big deal to a lot
of people. Thirty one years old, he'd been organizing Turning
Point USA since he was in college, and like Mike Johnson,
the House Speaker wrote, he said the killing of Charlie
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Kirk was utterly devastating, called him a close friend and
confident on every political leader must loudly and clearly decry
this violence. Trump announced Kirk's death to the world on
truth Social We are going to have a press conference
supposedly in minutes. If not, Alex Stone from ABC News
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will come on, and Deborah Mark has the news now
live the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been
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