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December 22, 2025 35 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (12/22) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. The Dept. of Homeland Security is tripling the reward to self-deport through the holidays. Illegal immigrants should take this deal that DHS is offering to self-deport. More ICE agents are coming in the new year. Healthcare is very expensive.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't find AM six forty you're listening to the John
Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John coblt Show.
It's Christmas time even at the Department of Homeland Security,
and the Department of Homeland Security is tripling the incentive
for illegals to voluntarily self deport.

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Well, it's home for the holidays season. So you know,
not only are we returning those kiddos back to their
families that by loss, we also are saying that if
you voluntarily want to go home now to your country,
if you're in this United States of America illegally, we
will give you three thousand dollars through the holidays.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Three thousand dollars. Currently the deal is if you're in
the country illegally and illegals know who they are, only
Democrats are unsure the illegals know who they are. If
you're in the country i legally and if you've committed
a slight infraction dui or murder, it doesn't matter. If

(01:01):
you self deport you get a thousand dollars bonus and
a plane ticket home, and then once you're home will
have an FBI background checkdown on you if you want
to come back, but you at least have an option.
So if you honestly have given it no crime while
illegally in my country, then maybe, just maybe you'll get

(01:21):
a visitor's visa someday. But if we have to chase
you down and wrestle you on the ground in the
parking lot of the home depot, then you're gone and
there's no re entry. That's it. When that van door closes,
that's the last time you hear any noises inside the
United States for the rest of your life. So that's

(01:43):
the deal, and I have held that that is a
very good deal. Few countries on planet Earth would offer
illegals one thousand dollars to self deport to their home.
Like it's easy for them to go home, hard for
us to catch them and find where they belong. They
know their home address, they've been mailing remittance to it

(02:05):
for years. So to really kind of put a holiday
twist on this plan that the Department of Homeland Security
is offering, they're saying, look, it's Christmas time, home for
the holidays, and we'll make sure that we get you
home and time for Christmas.

Speaker 3 (02:23):
Are saying that if you voluntarily want to go home
now to your country, if you're in this United States
of America illegally, we will give you three thousand dollars
through the holidays to send you home. We'll buy you
a ticket, give you three thousand dollars to go home.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
How a bount And that, by the way, that says
US dollars. So three thousand dollars USD goes far in
many Latin American countries. I know it goes far in India.
It's got to go pretty far in Turkey. Those are
the top nations, at least in southern California where we
are apprehending illegals. Columbia leads the list. Did you know that,

(02:59):
I'll butt you thought it was Mexico. It's not. In
the Eelalien Derby, Colombia is in the lead. We've deported
more people to Colombia than any other nation. China is second,
China in second place. Then you get Mexico, followed by Brazil,
Brazil in the cleanup position. Then you have Ecuador and
Turkey tying for fifth. Then it's Guinea, India, Guatemala, and

(03:27):
Peru rounding out the top ten. So those are the
most popular. Like, that's the top ten countries at this point.
I think Somalia is going to be really coming up
the back stretch, no question about it, based on what
I'm seeing happening in Minnesota. So Somalia will make an
entry into that list, I think the next time that
list is produced. But that's the people that we apprehend.

(03:51):
We have no idea the people that self deport, and
we have already self deported. Are you ready for this?
One point nine million people went home on their own
in exchange for the plane ticket and the and the grand.
Like you thought KFI was doing a grand in your hand,

(04:14):
the United States government's doing a grand in your hand
for illegals. And it works. And while you may say, hey,
why is a taxpayer? Am I giving illegals a thousand
dollars gift to get the hell out way cheaper? Right?
The ice raids take a lot of planning, a lot
of overtime involved. There's always one or two or three vehicles.

(04:34):
They're big vehicles. Gases expensive in California, so it's way cheaper.
And Trump is a businessman at the end of the day.
But this is a real switcher route A three thousand
dollars incentive. And I'm here to tell you that that's
the best deal in town. If you're an illegal, you
need to consider this because things are going to get

(04:57):
worse for illegals once January FIRS comes and the tenants
in the One Big Beautiful Bill kick in, which include
ten thousand more ICE agents, the raids are going to
be stepped up. It is the most popular component of
President Trump's presidency at this time. The most popular thing

(05:19):
he's doing is immigration enforcement. He's getting all kinds of
mixed reviews on his handling of the economy, mixed reviews
on his handling of international affairs, mixed reviews on his
mean tweets, but thumbs up across the board on his
handling of interior enforcement. And here's the rub. Now it's

(05:41):
three thousand dollars. So you really need to consider this.
I have held for a long time. If you're an illegal,
you need to have your sister in laws to all
the truck, pack your crap, and take that check and
that plane ticket and go home and then chill in
San Salvador for like six weeks or so, and then

(06:02):
go over to the embassy and submit an application. But
get to give us some time. And one thousand dollars
goes really far in Honduras. Now it's three thousand dollars.
Like three thousand dollars goes far for an American in Peru.
Just imagine how far it goes for somebody that is

(06:23):
you know whose home is in Peru. Here's the rub, though,
there's always a catch. The catch is if you don't
take the three grand and the plane ticket and vamous
and we catch you, then you can't come back.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
Raise your hand.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
We'll help you get home.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
We'll facilitate it, and you might get the chance to
come back to this country the right way someday. If
you wait until we introdict you and detain you and
arrest you and have to deport you ourselves, you'll never
get the chance to come back. So go on the
CBP home app and get the information and we'll make
sure you get home in time for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (06:55):
That's right, home and time for Christmas, which is that's expeditious. Boy.
I'll tell you what Christmas is Thursday. You want to
make it home in time for Christmas with three thousand
dollars you know, in your in your pants. So that's
the new deal. That's the big news today. That's the
new offer. Not one thousand dollars, three thousand dollars to

(07:17):
make our lives easier if you could just go home
like we've been asking. So is this going to work?
It's going to be an interesting question. It is working
better than anyone thought. There has been six hundred and
five to date. This was reported on at the end
of the close the business Friday, six hundred and five

(07:38):
thousand illegals deported like over a half a million, but
two million self deported. And that's with the Biden budget
staffing of immigration and customs enforcement. When we come back,
I'll tell you what the new twenty twenty six budget

(08:01):
is for customs and border protection and ice and enforcement.
And it'll blow your mind. This These numbers will I
think triple before the end of the first quarter. So
it's uh, it's it's gonna get real, real fast. So
if you're an illegal, grab the three grand and scram.
That's my advice to you. Merry Christmas.

Speaker 4 (08:22):
Lou Penrose, you're listening to John Coblt on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
Louke Penrose Info. John Coblt on the John Cobalt Show
talking about the change in the Department of Homeland Security
deal for the illegals up to three thousand dollars now
through the end of the year. So it's a limited
time offer through the end of the year illegal aliens

(08:50):
who self deport using the CBP home app. So write
this down really important. Go to the Some Border Protection
home app and you sign up and say I'm out,
I'm done. Three thousand dollars is good. You'll get a
three thousand dollars exit bonus. Illegal alien should take advantage

(09:15):
of this gift and self deport. If we have to
interdict and arrest them, they will not be able to return.
If you ever want to come back, you can if
you self deport. It's a generous deal. I think it's
a good deal at a foul now I know the problem.
The problem is we have been fed this lie, particularly

(09:37):
in Los Angeles. I hear all the time the Mayor
of Los Angeles talk about our immigrant community and how
they're all Angelinos, and I keep saying they're not Illegals,
are not Angelinos, and there's no such thing as an
immigrant community. They are just Americans that live in Los
Angeles and illegals, and that's it. They don't blend. And

(10:04):
you are constantly being told how there is this community
of good illegals, right, always the good illegals. Let's not
a deal, let's not hassle the good illegals. The President
said he was going to go after you know, the worst,
the worst ones. And what is he doing. He's going

(10:24):
after the good illegals, right. That's essentially what they're saying
by by saying, why isn't the president going after the
murderers and the criminals leave the good illegals alone. They
don't use the term good illegals and bad illegals, but
that's the bifurcation. That's effectively what the mayor of Los
Angeles is saying or suggesting that there is this place
where these nice, hard working, morally superior like, there's such

(10:49):
good people except for the fact that they're illegal, and
I should feel bad that they are being deported too,
and you should feel bad. And I'm telling you there
is no such animal as a good illegal. It just isn't.
And you're being misled. They never emerge nobody like, they

(11:12):
never find somebody whose only crime was they crossed the border,
but have been working which is illegal and really hard
and somehow got picked up. Like, it's never the case.
It's always that they illegally re entered the country and
were caught and did not appear in front of the

(11:33):
immigration judge. And of course no illegal would appear in
front of an immigration judge after being caught illegally re
entering the country after being deported, because that's a felony,
and what's going to be the defense, So they just
don't show and failure to report is instantly deportable. That's
a crime. That's a felony, right, DUI can't do that.

(11:56):
You can't do that if you're legally a visitor of
the United States. If you're in the United States on
a student visa and you get a DUI, you get deported.
If you're hearing a working work like at H one
B and you commit espousal battery or domestic violent you'll
get deported. Can't do that, and that's if you're legally

(12:19):
a resident of the United States. People that are illegally
in the United States and commit crimes, they really have
a good deal going, or had a good deal going
because they could commit crimes. They're already here illegally, So
what's the difference if they don't show up for their
court hearing on driving without a license or driving under

(12:39):
the influences, they're not going to show up. So that
that's what we're encountering. People that have committed people have problems.
They committed crimes. Now they may have been years ago,
but so what right that woman that everybody was talking
about that was screaming and I don't remember where it
was was at all, and she was yelling and screaming,

(13:03):
and it turned out that she had been caught re
entering the country illegally in two thousand and one. It's
like over five years ago. So what they're in the
country illegally? I mean, the goal is to get everybody
that's in the country illegally out of the country, and
President Trump is doing it. So this self deportation is

(13:23):
a good way to go. Really, anybody that self deports
has a decent chance of being able to re enter
as long as their FBI background check comes up. Okay,
here in Palm Springs, now they're getting in on this act.
In Palm Springs, the chief of Police, Andrew Mills, put

(13:45):
out a social media post he's flanked by the mayor
of Palm Springs, Palm Swings Mayor Naomi Soto, and they
want everybody to know that in Palm Springs they will not,
absolutely will not help the ICE agents. There's been an
increase presence of immigration and customs enforcement in Palm Springs,
I guess, and so right away law enforcement and woke

(14:09):
Democrat mayors have to go on social media to assure
us that we will absolutely not help ICE do its job. Okay,
we've seen this before. It's absurd, like we don't need
the help of local police, but it's happening. But to
look pious, the woke Democrat mayor and chief of police

(14:31):
went on social media to say, want you to know,
we're not helping. But they're they're number one concern. Not
that they're that there are illegals in Palm Springs. That's
not their concern. Their concern is once the illegal gets supported,
the truck is still alongside of the road, like the
truck is still there or the car is still there,

(14:52):
and what about the illegals belongings. That's what the chief
of police is concerned about. In Palm Springs.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
We've actually talked with ICE agents and let them know
that we are not assisting them in any way, shape
or form.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
That's right, not assisting them in any way, shape or form.
Got to start with that off the bat. We just
want you to know, and we've actually spoke with us.
We told them, hey, you're an American, I'm an American.
You're in law enforcement. I'm in law enforcement. We will
coordinate to protect the people, which is our sworn duty,
all day, every day, except for this one area of illegality,

(15:25):
this one area of illegality, no way, no way, shape
or form. Am I helping you out, fellow brother Blue.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
We've actually talked with ICE agents and let them know
that we are not assisting them in any way, shape
or form in their activity. However, we are very concerned
that the vehicles left behind from their detentions and arrests
are unsecured in open to theft.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Oh, open to theft. That's the real problem. That's the
real problem. Is that after we deport the illegal, after
having to chase down the illegal who will not self deport,
and then we got to wrestle them on the street
and get them in the back of the ICE ban.
While liberal white women are screaming profanities at the ice
agents and we finally wrap it up and you know,

(16:12):
leave the scene. What the chief of police in Bomb
Springs is most concerned about is that the illegal stuff
is open and vulnerable to theft.

Speaker 5 (16:22):
However, we are very concerned that the vehicles left behind
from their detentions and arrest are unsecured and open to theft.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Unsecured you mean like the border was you weren't. How
Come the chief of police was not concerned about the
United States border for the four years under the Biden administration.
That's unsecured, and the United States and California was susceptible
to theft, theft in the form of welfare, theft in
the form of public school education, theft in the form

(16:52):
of housing. It's incredible. It's absolutely incredible. It's almost laughable.
So here is Tom Homan in announcing these numbers. He
says that we are the one big, beautiful bill, which
effectively the budget starts after the first of the year,

(17:15):
will increase immigration and customs enforcement by ten thousand agents.
So things are going to get a lot faster, a
lot quicker. But first, he says, we got record numbers
here in less.

Speaker 6 (17:29):
Than a year since President Trump's been in the Oval office.
Well in the year, about six hundred and fifty thousand deportation,
which blows any record of the water. But we got
nearly Truman that left on their own because they knew
Ice was out there looking for him, they decided to
leave on their own.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
So record number of removals, record number of removals. And
Trump's only been president for three hundred and thirty six days.
It's not yet been a year, and you're closing in
on I mean, my goodness, two million, six hundred thousand
in total. And the difference is the illegals that are deported.

(18:09):
We know the actual number the illegals that are here.
We never really know the actual number because it's the
nature of illegals to not have documents, so we really
don't know how many illegals are here. We have estimates,
but there are only estimates, and I don't even like
the metric they use for estimates. But as far as

(18:31):
the deported illegals, those numbers are concrete. Six hundred and
five thousand forcibly deported, one point nine million self deported.
And that's with again the Biden budget for immigration and
Customs enforcement. When we come back I'll tell you what
the new budget's going to be. That's all happening. Louke

(18:53):
Penrose on KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
You're listening to John Kobel's on demand from KFI A
six forty.

Speaker 2 (19:03):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobalt on The John Cobalt Show.
The US government is tripling the incentive for ellegal aliens
to voluntarily leave now through the end of the year.
They're calling it the Home for the Holidays promotion. Through
the end of the year. Ethigal aliens who self deport
using the app, the CBP Home app, can receive a

(19:26):
three thousand dollars exit bonus. Currently it's one thousand dollars.
Inegalaliens should take full advantage of this gift and self
deport because if they don't and we find them, we
will arrest them. That according to the Department of Homeland Security.
Tom Homan was giving some remarks over the weekend. I
think this was that turning point USA, and he said,
this record number of deportations going on and record number

(19:48):
of self deportations, and that's this year. Next year it's
going to really ramp up.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
Once rebeat the Sanschwarz cities, once we bring all ten
thousand new agents on the you ain't swying nothing yet.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
The crowd goes crazy. So this is probably the most
significant success of the Trump administration, and it's the most
popular aspect of the Trump campaign and fulfillment of the
campaign promise. So this is something that he's going to
continue to put the foot on the gas pedal as

(20:27):
an initiative. And three thousand dollars that's a decent that's
a decent exit bonus. You should certainly consider it. But
act now. There's only nine days left until the end
of the year.

Speaker 6 (20:44):
Merry Christmas unless you're an illegal alien. Right I could
dissert your voice.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
No, just the opposite, Merry Christmas to the illegal alien.
They can get home for Christmas and have three thousand dollars.
Are you trying to make me feel bad? You're never
gonna let me feel bad, Like, don't let them make
you feel bad. Don't feel bad. These are not Angelinos.

(21:10):
They're foreigners masquerading as residents of Los Angeles, and they
can't take it in. So we've got to figure out
more creative ways while we increase the budget for Customs
and Border Protection and immigration and customs enforcement. And then
you have other law enforcement agencies making ICE out to
be the bad guys when they're on our side. Don't

(21:34):
let these liberal politicians in Los Angeles pollute your thinking.
ICE works for us. They're doing our work, which is
interior enforcement, and you are not gonna let make me
feel bad that we're helping people find their way home.
We are already seeing rents come down or at least

(21:56):
stabilize as a result of the vacancies. Like how often
are you preached to about the housing affordability crisis in
southern California, in Los Angeles, in San Diego, in Orange County?
And it's absurd housing affordability. Stop talking about building new

(22:16):
housing structure, Stop talking about zoning for more residential housing.
Once all the illegals are gone, then take a look.
You might not need a bunch of apartments. Where do
you think these people live, Like, after they leave the
home depot parking lot, where do you think they go?
They go to your apartments. So when they're gone, there's

(22:41):
going to be an awful lot of apartments available. And
when there's availability, you know what, you see, rents come
down to attract actual Americans to rent the apartment. That's
just the first order of business. I mean, when you
get into the class size reduction in your children's classrooms.
Los Angeles Unified School District is the largest school district

(23:03):
in the nation. We don't know how many of the
children are children of other nations. We're trying to get
everybody home for the holidays. Afterward, then let's look and
see what the class sizes are. Then let's talk to
the teachers and find out if class sizes are good.
Teachers are every election year, teachers are always screaming about

(23:26):
more money for education. Class size reduction. Got to have
some more classrooms, got to have big more teachers, got
to have bigger more classrooms. Two many people, all right, well,
why don't we eliminate the children of foreigners and help
them find their way home? And then take a look.
Maybe you might find that the class sizes are great
when you're only educating Americans. And this is the direction

(23:53):
we're going. And ironically, it is the Democrat politicians in
Los Angeles lists that are going to benefit the most
from the policies that they claim to hate the most.
Right Mayor Karen vass so angry every time she sees
an Ice van so angry all the time that illegals

(24:15):
get deported, when in reality, she, as the leader of
the city, will benefit by having lower housing costs, more availability, right,
more room, fewer casework load on social workers, I mean

(24:37):
across the board. And so since illegals primarily congregate in
large cities, and large cities are run by Democrat mayors,
it is the Democrat mayors that are screaming and shouting
all the time about this that are going to benefit
the most over time. And as I said, we're not
We're three hundred and thirty six days into the presidency,

(24:57):
hasn't even been a year. And as you heard there,
the budget for immigration and customs enforcement is about to
completely ramp up. All right, when we come back, we
got to talk a little bit about the irs. The
irs now are they're complaining. They put out a memo saying, hey,
all these new rules, no tax on tips, no tax
on overtime, no tax or you can deduct the interest

(25:21):
on your auto loan. This is all complicated stuff. Although
it's still math. It's just a lot more people that
have things that they need to report on their tax return,
and the IRS says that there's going to be some
challenging times going into the new year, so we'll talk
about that. That's all coming up next. Lou Penrose info
John Coblt on The John Cobalt Show on kf I

(25:43):
AM six forty Live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Blue Penrose in for John Cobalt on the John Cobalt Show.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
Blue.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
Everybody's getting a freaking chef nowadays. Tax money is paying
for every illegal drug addict, crooked politician. When do I
get a check? The guy paying the bill? When do
I get a check? Not the bill, I hear you.
But the good news is this is a one time deal,

(26:17):
and I get it. Incentivizing illegals to go home on
their own sounds right. It sounds wasteful of our tax dollars,
but it is a smart move. I mean, it's it's
much cheaper, and at the end of the day, it's
a one time deal. Just like this increased budget for

(26:39):
border patrol, it's a one time deal. Eventually we're not
gonna need anywhere near the amount of border patrol agents
that we are paying for, and that will be a
good thing. Like the border has been secured and now
it's staying secured. The only thing that can change that
is a Democrat. They're the only ones that will require

(27:02):
you and me to have to do this all over again.
So it's really important that we don't let this all
happen again. Remember President Trump and his administration is not
the welcome wagon. They are the cleanup crew, and that's
what we're doing here. But I appreciate the call. If
you're listening live, you can call us on the iHeartRadio
app using the top back mic when we come back

(27:23):
after the break. The no tax on tips is becoming
a reality, and that means that the Internal Revenue Service
are gonna have to work all this out. And it's
unclear exactly how this will all work, what the details
of it. According to the IRS dot gov website, it's

(27:46):
still pretty open ended, which is a good thing for
the tax payer, a little bit more challenging to the
tax collector. But between no tax on tips, no tax
on overtime, being able to deduct the interest payment on
your auto loan, these are all steps in the right direction.
These are all very popular things, and I think the
President is in the right lane here, and that is,

(28:08):
do what we can to lower the tax burden on
the American people. Anywhere we can see an opportunity to
lower the tax burden and let the bureaucracy figure it out,
like let the agency figure it out, and I think
that's the right attitude. Let them come up with standards
and then we'll approve the standards or send them back

(28:30):
to the drawing board. But in the short term, let
the tax earner, or rather the wage earner, let them
lower their tax burden as much as possible. This is
the right lane for this president. Everybody's talking about what's
going to change, what will be the campaign messaging for
the midterm elections, the midterm elections of three hundred and

(28:52):
sixteen days away. And it's pretty clear to me the
things that work for Republicans who if they want to
hold on to the House of Representative Representatives is these
are the issues they need to stand on, and that
is lower the tax burden, reduce the size of government,
get the federal government as much as you can out

(29:13):
of people's lives forever, Like the complete elimination of certain
agencies is a popular thing. Only Democrats go crazy. Frankly,
this is a good litmus test anytime a Democrat goes
crazy on a proposal, it was the right proposal if
you want to get re elected as a Republican. And

(29:36):
the more maniacal they sound, the better you'll do in
the election if you're a Republican. So yeah, continue to
lower taxes, come up with thoughtful ideas on how to
lower taxes. That's number one. Number two, Continue to support
what's happening with respect to immigration control and interior enforcement.

(29:58):
Don't get scared. It's okay that illegals are being sent home.
Don't fall for this ridiculous plea for you to be compassionate.
It's ridiculous. Be compassionate for the American children who now
have more time with their first grade teacher. Be compassionate

(30:19):
for the American who lives in Los Angeles who will
see for rent signs instead of rent increase notices like
manage yourself. But the other thing, and I am worried
about this. I've seen this before, and I've seen Republicans
fall victim to this before. I worked for three members

(30:41):
of Congress and is a senior staff role and Republicans
get sideways on this whole healthcare debate. So we're about
to have another healthcare discussion, maybe another government shutdown because
the Affordable Care Act is not affordable without government subsidies.
POSTA have been by now, but it wasn't because it's

(31:03):
a stupid idea and it doesn't work. And now since
Republicans are in control in the House of Representatives, everybody
wants the Republicans to solve a Democrat bad idea. And
as a Republican, I'm here to tell you do not
get involved in this. You can't win. You cannot make
health care costs cheaper than a Democrat promised socialized system.

(31:29):
You can't, So stay out of it. When they ask you,
what are you going to do about these premiums going
up under Obamacare and all these Americans are going to
see their premiums increase, your answer should be talk to Obama.
Get the former president on TV, talk to him. I
find it very difficult to feel bad for somebody that

(31:51):
supported the Affordable Care Act and is now watching their
premiums go up. Then work harder and buy yourself your
own insurance. I don't want to hear about it. Right
we were told that this was going to be the
best thing ever. And government is so good, and government
can run healthcare better than the private marketplace. And Republicans
are just greedy and they're in the pockets of the

(32:13):
insurance companies and that's why they don't want to give
you cheaper health care. But by golly, this Affordable Care Act,
this is what you need. And it was rammed through
completely partisan. Everybody knew it wasn't gonna work. It was
a complete joke. And now it's like the chickens have
come home with the roost. Here's what the Republicans should do. Say, hey,

(32:33):
you Democrats, go talk to your friend Barack Obama, and
then you guys come up with some kind of patch
for the Affordable Care Act, and as long as it
doesn't increase the deficit by a dime, we'll consider it.
If not, stop asking us, you go to all the
people that you sold Obamacare to. And by the way, Speaker,

(32:54):
then Speaker Pelosi, she's still in Congress. Senator Dick Derripin,
he's still in Congress. They're all retiring. Now, that's interesting.
And the architect of the Affordable Care Act, then Senator
Barack Obama, they're all around, so ask them, but don't
lay the blame at our feet. I don't want to
hear it. So keep don't even engage in the debate

(33:17):
because you can't win because as capitalists we can't compete
with socialists, and we don't have to because socialism will
fail every time it's tribe. But we know that government
can't do anything to decrease the premiums of Obamacare other
than to subsidize it with other taxpayers dollars, which is

(33:40):
what's happening now to make believe it's cheaper by using
other people's money. That's what a government subsidy is. So
we can't All we can do is create conditions in
which the marketplace becomes so competitive that premium prices come

(34:00):
down on their own. But those priviian prices even down
in the best conditions of a competitive marketplace, and that's
what health insurance is. It's just a marketplace. Even in
the best conditions, it won't be cheaper than what's going
to be promised to a potential rate payer by a socialist.

(34:20):
So we'll never win that game, So stay away from
it altogether. That's my advice. So we'll see where this goes,
and again that'll be the story after the holidays, after Christmas,
after Santa Claus comes down the chimney, after everybody pops Champagne.
The first order of business is going to be averting
yet another government shutdown over the exact same issue. So

(34:43):
we'll we'll have to sort that out. And as I said,
when we come back, we'll talk with Ben Siegel. Ben
Siegel from ABC News. He's the deputy political director over
at the White House. There's already a letter circulating amongst
Senators and this is bipartisan Republican, Democrat and Independent that
the IRS is going to need some help having to
figuring out how to deal with no tax on tips,

(35:04):
no tax on overtime, and all the other no tax
promises that were promised by President Obama and signed into
law in the One Big, Beautiful Bill. So that's going
to be very interesting stuff and it's all coming up next.
Lou Penrose on KFI AM six forty Live Everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.

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