August 20, 2025 • 35 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (08/20) - Former LA Fire Chief Kristin Crowley has filed a formal legal complaint against the city of LA alleging defamation, retaliation & negligence. Legislative officials were dodging questions about who drew the redistricting maps in CA.
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of big news today, like more big news than we
probably have time for, but let's get to it. The
former fire chief of the City of Los Angeles, Kristin Crowley,
you may remember her. She is filing a precursor to
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a lawsuit against the city and to sum up a
part of the lawsuit, Garon Bass is a stinking liar.
That's the message from Kristin Crowley, and she is accusing
Mayor Bass of defamation. It comes down to Bass stupidly
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going to Africa when she was getting fire and wind
warnings that everybody else in the city recognized, and she
did even cares the truth. And so she went on
the plane to Africa for some cocktail party, and meantime,
Palisades burns down, and as soon as she came back
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she realized it was like, Oh, I've really destroyed my career,
haven't I. Oh this is bad. I remember she was
in shock when she came off the plane from Africa.
A reporter chased her for about a minute and a
half and she didn't respond. It was total silence, really damning.
I mean, she couldn't even offer a fake bit of
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empathy for the people who were actively losing their homes,
and then it finally sunk in that, yeah, she should
have been here. There should have been fire crews prepositioned
all along the Santa Monica Mountains, especially on the south side,
Pacific Palisades and Brentwood and bel Air and Hollywood Hills
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and then you know, everything from west east.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But she didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
She didn't hold any meetings. She didn't care. I mean,
there's two ways to put it. You know, it didn't
matter that she was the mayor of Los Angeles, doesn't
matter that there were I mean, there's some of the
warnings were in purple. I thought red was the worst
warning the Weather Service could give out for weather and fire.
There's actually another level, and that's purple. And she didn't care,
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blew it all off, realized she had to blame somebody else,
and so she dumped all over Kristin Crowley, the fire chief,
and so she repeatedly lied about Kristin Crowley. According to
Crowley's precursor to a lawsuit, it's called a formal torte
complaint and under the law you have to to file
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that first, and then when the city dismisses it, then
you go with the full blown lawsuit, and here's what
Crowley said. Bass initially praised the department's preparedness and responded positively,
but as criticism mounted over her absence, Bass reversed course.
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She sought to shift blame to Crowley, falsely stating that
Bass was not aware of the nationally anticipated weather event,
falsely stating that Crowley sent a thousand firefighters home who
could have fought the blaze, and misrepresented the department's budget.
This is the crux of when everything went haywire between
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Bass and Crowley, because Bass had cut the fire department
budget and Crowley went on Fox eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And it all out.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And the quote was, we are screaming to be properly funded.
I was on January tenth, three days after the fire,
and Bass called her to the Mayor's office and listened
to Bass's response, and it's true. She cut almost eighteen
million dollars and eliminated, according to Crowley, positions that are
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critical to maintaining fire engines, trucks, and ambulances. Well after
Crowley said on Fox eleven, we are screaming to be
properly funded, Bass called Crowley in and said, I don't
know why you had to do that. Normally we're on
the same page. I don't know why you have to
say stuff to the media, because when you talk to
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the media, you're talking to the public. And because you
did cut the funding, and you cut the funding in
way that really crimped the fire department's response and the
public should know this, and the media is the conduit.
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But that's his first reaction is, well, why did you
have to tell everybody? You didn't have to tell everybody
that I cut the fire to budget, did you?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Why'd you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, I'm sure they were drawing up some fake
public relations statements to fog up the fact that our
fire department was funded at a fifty percent level of
what it should be. Fifty percent you're supposed to have.
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I believe the recommendation from the national organization is two
firefighters for every I don't want to get the proportion wrong.
You're supposed to have two firefighters per x. We had
one firefight fighter per x. We exactly half of what
we needed, not to mention fire trucks that were busted
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not repaired. We didn't have repair people. Obviously, we didn't
have water and Bass never held that meet. Bess ever
held a meeting at all, worried about the fire danger,
because otherwise you would have filled up the reservoir months
in advance. It's like, hey, fire seasons coming. Do we
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have everything we need? Do we have enough fire trucks,
enough firefighters, enough water? The reservoir is filmed. That's Karen
Bass is one of her basic jobs and she's a
failure and she should not be mayor. She should have resigned.
She should have been somehow forced out. This is a
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disgrace that she exists in the mayor's office, and Crowley
called her out right away.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're screaming to be fun.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
In her claim, Crowley says she repeatedly warned of the
fire Department's worsening resource and staffing crisis before the fire,
and said that the aging infrastructure, of the surging emergency calls,
and the shrinking staff left the city at risk. She
did do that, She's right and best ignored her. Now
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how anybody could tolerate Karen Bass still in office? And
then she fires Kristen Crowley and blames everything on her.
What a snake, What a dishon is snake? She's We're
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gonna have Michael Monks on next hour. To talk about
more details on the lawsuit and go through some of
the false claims that Crowley says Bass made. But she
kind of knew it in real time, didn't she. I
think we all knew that. When Crowley got fired, Bass
was looking to escapegoat somebody to change the subject because
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she couldn't. She couldn't talk around being in Africa.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
She couldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She actually actually said on television I sawry to see
this that she wasn't aware of the fire. That's another
big lie. She claimed nobody told her. She claimed nobody
told her about the fire or the fire danger. Just
astonishing that she still exists in the mayor's office. Absolutely astonishing,
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and what it says about much of the public, who
collectively has their head up their rear ends probably scrolling
on their phones. God, but this woman is a disaster.
And eventually you can't have a disaster of a mayor forever.
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When we had we had Garcetti for over nine years
and then Bass. You have this go on long enough
when you're not looking. The fire department is only half
funded and nobody's in place when the big burn happens.
We'll talk more about this coming up. We also have
a lot to cover with Newsom's nonsense. To readdistrict.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
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Speaker 2 (10:34):
Ray Lopez, our producer. Happy birthday to that. Although he
hates that acknowledgement. Uh, I just realized Ray and I've
been working together for about half his life.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
How scary is that? This is this is what he's
devoted his career to, this thing.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Wow, that's that's his judgment, you know, that's that's what
he's decided to do. Anyway, Happy birthday, Ray. Now the
fire chief. Former fire chief Kristin Crowley has she and
her lawyers have released.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
The official they called a formal torte claim.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's a precursor to the lawsuit against the City of
Los Angeles because Karen Bass fired her, and she's accusing
cass of a Bass of defamation, retaliation and negligence, claiming dishonesty, scapegoating,
unlawful retaliation that destroyed her career, not because she did
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anything wrong, but she told the truth. And we're going
to play you the circumstances here. You mentioned them in
the last segment. So Karen Bass in Africa in Ghana,
at a cocktail party because the president of Ghana had
been inaugurated. Not here, even though she had several days
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of warning that the worst possible firestorm may happen. She
comes off the plane twenty four hours late, and there's
a British reporter who tails her from the plane. I
guess to the terminal, listen, do you.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Owe citizens and apology for being absent while their homes
were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department budget
by millions of dollars?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Madam? There?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing
to say to the citizens today? Elon Mosk says that
you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor?
Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today?
You're dealing with this disaster? No apology for them? Do
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you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this
was unfolding? Back home?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
She's still walking, Adam Mayor.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Let me ask you just again, have you anything to
say to the citizens today as you returned?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
One second, Madam Mayor, just a.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Few words for the citizens today as you return to
do you a catastrophe?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Still walking?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You believe that not even fake empathy quite remarkable. But
you know, you know what gets your talking, what gets
you're talking is when ICE agents enforce the law.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Why would you do that? That is unbelievably disrespectful. It's
a provocative act. They're talking about disorder in Los Angeles
and they are the source of the disorder in Los
Angeles right now. This is just completely unacceptable. This is
a administration, this is a customs and border patrol that
has gone amok. This absolutely has to sup There was
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no danger here, There was no need to detain anyone here,
and there was certainly no need to have a provocative
ass right here where the governor is having a threat company.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
There you go, uh, some illegal aliens getting detained. You
can't shut her up. She's so passionate, so emotional, so angry.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Thousands of homes and businesses burned down, people die, nothing,
absolutely nothing out of her, not even a few steps
to the microphone and saying this is terrible, this is
heart wrenching.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Never apologized for being in Africa, never apolog apologizing for
neglecting and abandoning the city, never apologized for cutting millions
of dollars from the fire budget, for basically letting the
fire department go to rot. Never apologized, never explained. Still
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don't understand why we don't have a fully funded fire department.
Still don't understand why we have so many, so few firefighters,
so many busted engines, so few mechanics, nothing.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Meantime, Crowley was the one on the scene, and she
had repeatedly told bass about, you know, the bad firestorm
potentially coming and how they didn't have enough resources, they
didn't have enough firefighters, and finally she just lost it
on Fox eleven.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Full transparency. This isn't a new problem for us.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Since the three years that I've been in the seat,
I have sounded the alarm to say we need more.
This is no longer sustainable. So with that, we are
now in a position to be properly funded. We are
screaming to be properly funded to make sure that our
firefighters can do their jobs so that we can serve
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the community that we took an oath.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
Did the City of Los Angeles fail you and your
department and our city.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
It's my job to stand up as a chief and
exactly say, justifiably what the fire department needs to operate
to meet the demands of the community.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Did they fail you?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
That is our job, and I tell you that's why
I'm here. So let's get us what we need so
firefighters can do their jobs.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Did they fail you.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, Kristin Crowley, Karen Bass failed all the people of
Pacific Palisades and the city. And that was Gigi Graciat
from Fox eleven. So after Crowley says that, Bass called
Crowley in and according to Crowley's complaint, Bass said, I
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don't know why you had to do that. Normally we're
on the same page. I don't know why you have
to say stuff to the media, because it's true she
cut the budget. It was eighteen million dollars short. It
was badly funded to begin with. Bass didn't care about
the fire department. She cares about her weird social justice
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missions in life. I'm sure she'd love to go on
all day and night about the wonders of Fidel Castro
and Cuba. And she certainly was out of her mind
angry over illegal aliens getting detained.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But as far as the.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Fire in the Palisades, nothing, And to this day she
says she says nothing, hoping it goes away because most
of the media doesn't cover this anymore, and they never
pursued her very much to begin with. All Right, when
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we come back, Newsom trying to rip away choices from
independent and Republican voters when it comes to voting for
Congress people, just trying to eliminate the choices so that
only Democrats win in almost all the districts. You've probably
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heard about this. We'll talk about it when we come back.
And oh, we have some babbling, idiotic politicians trying to
dodge direct questioning up in Sacramento. From Ashley Zavalla from KCRTV.
That's good stuff.
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After four o'clock, John Cobolt's show on demand on the podcast. So,
in Texas, the Republican legislature is in the process of
redrawing the district lines or passing legislation that would lead
to that, and of course Gavin Newsom is on his
horse claiming that, well, if they do that, then we
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are going to take retaliation here in California and try
to eliminate as many Republican Congress Congressional districts as possible
by redrawing the lines.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Now, he can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Because the constitutionist says that the mines have to be
drawn by an independent commission. So his idea is to
put on this November's ballot a referendum to redraw the districts,
to overturn the constitution, or at least those amendments, and
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give the Democratic legislature to the power to redraw the
districts as they see fit, as Newsom sees fit, instead
of an independent panel, instead of outsiders.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Newsom wants control.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And he thinks if he whips up enough anti Trump
hysteria that he'll win, even though two thirds of the
state doesn't want this system touched. Two thirds of the
state as of last week, wants congressional districts to be
drawn by an outside panel, and the Republicans are now
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filing a lawsuit against Newsom's redistricting plan because when you
produce new legislation, you're supposed to give the public thirty
days to review it. We're getting three, so that's a
violation too. But in case you know, the judges are
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quite biased to the progressive governors that appointed him, like
Brown and newsom. So if the Supreme Court fails at
its job, then we're going to have to vote. Now,
the question is who specifically wrote these redistricting lines. Who's
drawn them? Nowson approves of them, but he didn't draw
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them himself. It's pretty complicated. You have to draw a
zig zaggy border to try to reach to pull in
as many Democratic votes as possible while eliminating Republican votes
in any given district.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Their goal is.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
To get forty eight of the fifty two districts to
vote Democratic. In other words, no matter what the Republicans
put up as competition, no matter if there's any dependent candidates,
independent and Republican voters will almost never have a choice
in forty eight out of fifty two districts. It's going
to be drawn so the Democrats always win, which of
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course is disgusting, but that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Nobody seems to want to admit who is drawing the maps.
I'm going to play you this clip and you are
going to hear Sabrina Cervantes. She's the California State She's
the California State Senate Elections Committee Chairwoman Ashley Zavawa from
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Channel three and Sacramento KCRA is grilling servantes about who
drew the maps and listen to servantes do the big dodge.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
So the Rules Committee was responsible of putting the maps
onto our public website, the Committee on Elections, and so
that has now been posted since Friday and then adjusted
on Monday per ab six.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
So four okay, So.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
Did this committee meet then to draw the lines? And
we were just trying to ascertain who exactly is responsible
for drawing these maps at this point.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
So the criteria has remained the same from the CRC.
Seventy six percent of the districts remained the same, and
that is what Californians will see. There are many folks
stakeholders who have had an input on the map drawing process,
but ultimately this is up to the decision of California voters.
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Whereas the CRC, which we respect. We want to make
sure that there's a nationwide Citizen's Redistricting Commission. But the
reality is we are in an emergency and this is
our emergency.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There's no emergency. Not one person outside of Gavin knew
some ask for this in state California. I have no
interest in what they do in Texas, not our business.
You're going to have tens of thousands of people who
are independent or Republican and they will have no chance
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to have a Republican candidate in their district get elected
after this. What in God's name does that have to
do with Texas? That's their business. The Texas people don't
like it, they can have their own revolt. But why
why are thousands, tens of thousands of people getting punished
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and they're going to have their choice denied? I thought
Democrats were pro choice. Apparently not when it comes to
picking Congress people, they're not. I know, we got a
lot of stuff here. Let's play a little more of this,
and this.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Is our emergency response.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
We're giving Californians over two and a half months to
review these maps thoroughly and make a decision on whether
or not we move forward.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Right stop.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
There's not going to be any reasoned, scholarly analytical process
going on here. It's just going to be people screaming
about Trump, trying to whip up the anti Trump passions.
That's going to be the extent of the campaign. Because
most people don't pay attention to any of this. Listen
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to We're gonna play cup one here the assembly Woman
Alexandra Mercedo trying to get a straight answer out of
the Assembly Majority leader Cecilia Agilar Curry. Mesito is a Republican.
Agila Curry is a Democrat. Same question, who drew the
redistricting map. Nobody wants to say.
Speaker 12 (25:47):
Who drew these maps? And I'm not saying general groups.
I'd like specific names who specifically drew these maps.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
So these are the legislator's maps, the legislatures maps.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
We did three important things.
Speaker 13 (26:00):
We took the knowledge of public input from the independent Commission.
We keep them more cities whole than the commissions map,
and we are letting our voters see the maps and
make the ultimate decision.
Speaker 12 (26:11):
Madam Majority of Lee, I understand, I've heard all that.
Who drew the maps? It's a very simple question. Names,
preferably Assembly Okay, I'm in the Assembly and I did
not draw these maps.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
You're the leadership.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
No, and I'm aware of that. But the same way
that in this bill it says that the Assembly Elections Committee,
not Chair Pellerin, not Assembly Member Salatja, not Assembly Member Bennett.
I am a part of that group, so by association,
I've been lumped in mister Bennett. So I'm asking who
drew these maps. The legislature drew the maps, who specifically
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in the legislative.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Legislature drew the maps.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
This is transparency that we don't get to know who
drew them.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The legislature drew the maps again over seventy six percent.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's not what I'm asking to her.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
The maps are coming from her from the respond to that,
I am asking district commission, which is.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
By okay, let's have one person speak at a time, please.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And my question has not been answered.
Speaker 12 (27:11):
The information you've given, I've already.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
Heard, I've got here. The question has been answered. You
just don't like the answer.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You said the legislature. I am the legislature. I am
part of the legislature.
Speaker 12 (27:20):
Is that correct, Madam Chair, Because I'm not a Democratic, remember.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
That, you can just try to answer good faith, yeah,
good good. But when we say the leg all kinds
of things happen in the legislature. We're not all involved
in every one, but they're all controlled by the legislative leadership.
The legislative leadership wrote these maps combination. We have a
leader right here, so she's part of the leadership.
Speaker 13 (27:45):
The leadership team leadership teams, the team leadership team personally.
Speaker 12 (27:50):
So then there she's in leadership. And she just said
she didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Write the maps.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
She had, she had some she she was part of
the leadership.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Okay, can we bring the debate back to the he's
a team. Okay, you know who the team is.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I think we've answered the.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
Question has been answered. Do you have another question? And
I'm sorry, did you have a comment you want?
Speaker 14 (28:09):
I just wanted to say, you can all verify this.
This week's edition of Capital Weekly podcast had Paul Mitchell
is their guests from Political Data. He spoke about the
fact that he foregone an Italian vacation with his family
in order to work on redrawing these maps.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Fantastic.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Why can we not have Paul Mitchell here then to testify?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh, some some mystery do you have?
Speaker 10 (28:33):
You have other questions about it? Let's go ahead and
move forward with those questions.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Okay, so some mystery guy named Paul Mitchell while these
these uh, these people were lying by saying it's the leadership,
it's not the leadership.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
These people are stupid, These assembly people.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
They can't draw complex maps to account for all the
variables so that they can rig the election.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Got another one on to play when we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
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Speaker 2 (29:06):
So they're fighting in Sacramento because the Democrats found some
strange data guru, I guess his name was finally given up,
named Paul Mitchell, and he's the guy drawing these congressional
districts so that Republicans can't get elected for Congress in
California anymore. This plan works, it'll be forty eight out
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of the fifty two districts. And we're the media, well
the media, one woman Ashley Zavala from CACRTV is trying
to find out who it is, and so are a
number of California Assembly people, and the Democrats are lying
and covering up. And then finally somebody said, it's a
guy named Paul Mitchell who's with some data company apparently
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went on vacation in Italy to drop the lines to
screw tens of thousands of people out of a choice
for who they want as Congress as a congressman. Now
here's Ashley's vollay going after another California Assembly Elections chair.
This is named Gail Pellerin again, same question who drew
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the redistricting maps? And listen to pellerin do his stance.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Who exactly is responsible for the maps? Who do we
tell California voters drew these?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Well?
Speaker 10 (30:21):
So the maps have been posted on our website since
eight o'clock yesterday. The lines are very clear where people
who can go on and observe and see what we're
doing their adjustments. Many counties and many districts are not
getting touched at all.
Speaker 11 (30:34):
So and I'm sure, I'm sorry. My question is who
is responsible for the maps? Specifically, who do we let
California voters know are responsible for the maps that they
are being presented with?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean I think it was a collaboration.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
But yeah, I mean with several people involved who specifically.
I don't have the full list right here with me,
but we could certainly get that too. But these maps
are transparent, they're there for going.
Speaker 11 (30:56):
But who the names of the people the organization? I mean,
Governor Gavin knew some promise that no special interests or
this would be this would be transparent, this would not
be done in a back room. So we're trying to
ascertain in the very short amount of time that you
have to deliberate this, who exactly are the maps responsible
for happening.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
Very quickly, and the folks that were drawing the maps
went back to the Independent Registricting Commission's testimony and what
they heard during their time when they were deliberating this,
and they themselves ran out of time to do the
work that they needed to do. And so we're basing
these on the Voting Rights Act, and we're looking at
really bringing the voters into this process. And that's why
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we're going to an election on November fourth, because at
the end of shape, the voter's voice is what matters.
Speaker 11 (31:39):
And we're asking because I mean, we're asking because voters
back in two thousand and eight and twenty ten took
the power away from politicians to draw maps because they
did not like that it was an incumbent protection plan.
So we just need to know, I mean, that's why
we're asking.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
These are definitely unusual times. We are no longer governing
in a democracy. We're governing in an authoritarian government. We
are seeing things that we care so deeply about in California.
We have education, food for children, our immigrant community, our
LGBT community, they are getting decimated by this administration. This
is an all out assault on California's democracy and the
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rights and values. So we have to move quickly. But
we are bringing the voters on to this process. We're
letting them know the maps have been posted on the website.
We have this election on November fourth, and at the
end of the day, the voters will decide what is
important to them and whether they want to adjust these
maps to give California the voice it needs in Congress.
Speaker 11 (32:33):
Charon, and you said whether or not stay lawnmmners were
state lawmakers involved in drawing the maps to any state
lawmakers at all, not to my knowledge, So then who
adjusted them last night at eight pm?
Speaker 10 (32:45):
As my understanding that they were by eight am, they
were out. There is a collaboration, but we can get
to the people that actually did that work.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
So then why does the legislation say the detailed maps
are prepared by the Assembly and state Senate elections committees.
Speaker 10 (32:59):
So the reality is that it was a collaboration and
we can get through those specifics. But I think what's
most important is the maps are out there for people
to see, to evaluate to make a judgment on the
launch line.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
When you consume something.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
When you consume something, don't you want to know who
makes it? When you are presented with something, don't you
want to know where it's coming from? Don't voters deserve
to know.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
A restaurant, I don't need to meet the chef. I
just enjoy the food.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't need to meet the chef if you're paying
attention closely, and I know it's hard. Through the three
clips we played, they would give different answers to the
same question. First it was, well, it was the legislators.
Then well it wasn't the legislators, and they contradicted themselves
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because they were just just scrambling around trying to find
a way to get Ashley Zavalla to shut up, to
stop asking. They didn't want to admit it. Legislators didn't
do this. They're not smart enough to do this. It's
this uh data guru named Paul Mitchell, and they run
through computers and they come up with what's the way
to maximize Democrat votes so that nearly one hundred percent
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of the districts ended with a Democrat candidate winning. That's
what it was. They probably used AI, some advanced analysis technology. Well,
you know, it was the legislature. Well no, no, it
wasn't the legislature. And then they say, well, we're unprecedented
times democracy is being threatened. So if democracy is being threatened,
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you're taking away the choice from tens of thousands, hundreds
of thousands of voters by reinforcing one party rule in
California that only Democrats can win congressional steats over ninety
percent of the time. That's what they're doing. And they
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figure if they talk fast and they contradict themselves and
just blather and babble, well.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You're not gonna notice.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
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of big news today, like more big news than we
probably have time for, but let's get to it. The
former fire chief of the City of Los Angeles, Kristin Crowley,
you may remember her. She is filing a precursor to
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a lawsuit against the city and to sum up a
part of the lawsuit, Garon Bass is a stinking liar.
That's the message from Kristin Crowley, and she is accusing
Mayor Bass of defamation. It comes down to Bass stupidly
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going to Africa when she was getting fire and wind
warnings that everybody else in the city recognized, and she
did even cares the truth. And so she went on
the plane to Africa for some cocktail party, and meantime,
Palisades burns down, and as soon as she came back
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she realized it was like, Oh, I've really destroyed my career,
haven't I. Oh this is bad. I remember she was
in shock when she came off the plane from Africa.
A reporter chased her for about a minute and a
half and she didn't respond. It was total silence, really damning.
I mean, she couldn't even offer a fake bit of
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empathy for the people who were actively losing their homes,
and then it finally sunk in that, yeah, she should
have been here. There should have been fire crews prepositioned
all along the Santa Monica Mountains, especially on the south side,
Pacific Palisades and Brentwood and bel Air and Hollywood Hills
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and then you know, everything from west east.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
But she didn't.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
She didn't hold any meetings. She didn't care. I mean,
there's two ways to put it. You know, it didn't
matter that she was the mayor of Los Angeles, doesn't
matter that there were I mean, there's some of the
warnings were in purple. I thought red was the worst
warning the Weather Service could give out for weather and fire.
There's actually another level, and that's purple. And she didn't care,
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blew it all off, realized she had to blame somebody else,
and so she dumped all over Kristin Crowley, the fire chief,
and so she repeatedly lied about Kristin Crowley. According to
Crowley's precursor to a lawsuit, it's called a formal torte
complaint and under the law you have to to file
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that first, and then when the city dismisses it, then
you go with the full blown lawsuit, and here's what
Crowley said. Bass initially praised the department's preparedness and responded positively,
but as criticism mounted over her absence, Bass reversed course.
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She sought to shift blame to Crowley, falsely stating that
Bass was not aware of the nationally anticipated weather event,
falsely stating that Crowley sent a thousand firefighters home who
could have fought the blaze, and misrepresented the department's budget.
This is the crux of when everything went haywire between
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Bass and Crowley, because Bass had cut the fire department
budget and Crowley went on Fox eleven.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
And it all out.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And the quote was, we are screaming to be properly funded.
I was on January tenth, three days after the fire,
and Bass called her to the Mayor's office and listened
to Bass's response, and it's true. She cut almost eighteen
million dollars and eliminated, according to Crowley, positions that are
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critical to maintaining fire engines, trucks, and ambulances. Well after
Crowley said on Fox eleven, we are screaming to be
properly funded, Bass called Crowley in and said, I don't
know why you had to do that. Normally we're on
the same page. I don't know why you have to
say stuff to the media, because when you talk to
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the media, you're talking to the public. And because you
did cut the funding, and you cut the funding in
way that really crimped the fire department's response and the
public should know this, and the media is the conduit.
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But that's his first reaction is, well, why did you
have to tell everybody? You didn't have to tell everybody
that I cut the fire to budget, did you?
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Why'd you do that?
Speaker 2 (06:22):
You know, I'm sure they were drawing up some fake
public relations statements to fog up the fact that our
fire department was funded at a fifty percent level of
what it should be. Fifty percent you're supposed to have.
(06:45):
I believe the recommendation from the national organization is two
firefighters for every I don't want to get the proportion wrong.
You're supposed to have two firefighters per x. We had
one firefight fighter per x. We exactly half of what
we needed, not to mention fire trucks that were busted
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not repaired. We didn't have repair people. Obviously, we didn't
have water and Bass never held that meet. Bess ever
held a meeting at all, worried about the fire danger,
because otherwise you would have filled up the reservoir months
in advance. It's like, hey, fire seasons coming. Do we
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have everything we need? Do we have enough fire trucks,
enough firefighters, enough water? The reservoir is filmed. That's Karen
Bass is one of her basic jobs and she's a
failure and she should not be mayor. She should have resigned.
She should have been somehow forced out. This is a
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disgrace that she exists in the mayor's office, and Crowley
called her out right away.
Speaker 1 (07:58):
We're screaming to be fun.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
In her claim, Crowley says she repeatedly warned of the
fire Department's worsening resource and staffing crisis before the fire,
and said that the aging infrastructure, of the surging emergency calls,
and the shrinking staff left the city at risk. She
did do that, She's right and best ignored her. Now
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how anybody could tolerate Karen Bass still in office? And
then she fires Kristen Crowley and blames everything on her.
What a snake, What a dishon is snake? She's We're
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gonna have Michael Monks on next hour. To talk about
more details on the lawsuit and go through some of
the false claims that Crowley says Bass made. But she
kind of knew it in real time, didn't she. I
think we all knew that. When Crowley got fired, Bass
was looking to escapegoat somebody to change the subject because
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she couldn't. She couldn't talk around being in Africa.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
She couldn't.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
She actually actually said on television I sawry to see
this that she wasn't aware of the fire. That's another
big lie. She claimed nobody told her. She claimed nobody
told her about the fire or the fire danger. Just
astonishing that she still exists in the mayor's office. Absolutely astonishing,
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and what it says about much of the public, who
collectively has their head up their rear ends probably scrolling
on their phones. God, but this woman is a disaster.
And eventually you can't have a disaster of a mayor forever.
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When we had we had Garcetti for over nine years
and then Bass. You have this go on long enough
when you're not looking. The fire department is only half
funded and nobody's in place when the big burn happens.
We'll talk more about this coming up. We also have
a lot to cover with Newsom's nonsense. To readdistrict.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
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Speaker 2 (10:34):
Ray Lopez, our producer. Happy birthday to that. Although he
hates that acknowledgement. Uh, I just realized Ray and I've
been working together for about half his life.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
How scary is that? This is this is what he's
devoted his career to, this thing.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Wow, that's that's his judgment, you know, that's that's what
he's decided to do. Anyway, Happy birthday, Ray. Now the
fire chief. Former fire chief Kristin Crowley has she and
her lawyers have released.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
The official they called a formal torte claim.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
It's a precursor to the lawsuit against the City of
Los Angeles because Karen Bass fired her, and she's accusing
cass of a Bass of defamation, retaliation and negligence, claiming dishonesty, scapegoating,
unlawful retaliation that destroyed her career, not because she did
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anything wrong, but she told the truth. And we're going
to play you the circumstances here. You mentioned them in
the last segment. So Karen Bass in Africa in Ghana,
at a cocktail party because the president of Ghana had
been inaugurated. Not here, even though she had several days
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of warning that the worst possible firestorm may happen. She
comes off the plane twenty four hours late, and there's
a British reporter who tails her from the plane. I
guess to the terminal, listen, do you.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Owe citizens and apology for being absent while their homes
were burning? Do you regret cutting the fire department budget
by millions of dollars?
Speaker 5 (12:19):
Madam? There?
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Have you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing
to say to the citizens today? Elon Mosk says that
you're utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor?
Have you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today?
You're dealing with this disaster? No apology for them? Do
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you think you should have been visiting Ghana while this
was unfolding? Back home?
Speaker 1 (13:23):
She's still walking, Adam Mayor.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Let me ask you just again, have you anything to
say to the citizens today as you returned?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
One second, Madam Mayor, just a.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Few words for the citizens today as you return to
do you a catastrophe?
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Still walking?
Speaker 2 (13:51):
You believe that not even fake empathy quite remarkable. But
you know, you know what gets your talking, what gets
you're talking is when ICE agents enforce the law.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
Why would you do that? That is unbelievably disrespectful. It's
a provocative act. They're talking about disorder in Los Angeles
and they are the source of the disorder in Los
Angeles right now. This is just completely unacceptable. This is
a administration, this is a customs and border patrol that
has gone amok. This absolutely has to sup There was
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no danger here, There was no need to detain anyone here,
and there was certainly no need to have a provocative
ass right here where the governor is having a threat company.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
There you go, uh, some illegal aliens getting detained. You
can't shut her up. She's so passionate, so emotional, so angry.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Thousands of homes and businesses burned down, people die, nothing,
absolutely nothing out of her, not even a few steps
to the microphone and saying this is terrible, this is
heart wrenching.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Never apologized for being in Africa, never apolog apologizing for
neglecting and abandoning the city, never apologized for cutting millions
of dollars from the fire budget, for basically letting the
fire department go to rot. Never apologized, never explained. Still
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don't understand why we don't have a fully funded fire department.
Still don't understand why we have so many, so few firefighters,
so many busted engines, so few mechanics, nothing.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
Now.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Meantime, Crowley was the one on the scene, and she
had repeatedly told bass about, you know, the bad firestorm
potentially coming and how they didn't have enough resources, they
didn't have enough firefighters, and finally she just lost it
on Fox eleven.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
Full transparency. This isn't a new problem for us.
Speaker 7 (16:10):
Since the three years that I've been in the seat,
I have sounded the alarm to say we need more.
This is no longer sustainable. So with that, we are
now in a position to be properly funded. We are
screaming to be properly funded to make sure that our
firefighters can do their jobs so that we can serve
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the community that we took an oath.
Speaker 8 (16:33):
Did the City of Los Angeles fail you and your
department and our city.
Speaker 7 (16:37):
It's my job to stand up as a chief and
exactly say, justifiably what the fire department needs to operate
to meet the demands of the community.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Did they fail you?
Speaker 7 (16:48):
That is our job, and I tell you that's why
I'm here. So let's get us what we need so
firefighters can do their jobs.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
Did they fail you.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yes, Kristin Crowley, Karen Bass failed all the people of
Pacific Palisades and the city. And that was Gigi Graciat
from Fox eleven. So after Crowley says that, Bass called
Crowley in and according to Crowley's complaint, Bass said, I
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don't know why you had to do that. Normally we're
on the same page. I don't know why you have
to say stuff to the media, because it's true she
cut the budget. It was eighteen million dollars short. It
was badly funded to begin with. Bass didn't care about
the fire department. She cares about her weird social justice
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missions in life. I'm sure she'd love to go on
all day and night about the wonders of Fidel Castro
and Cuba. And she certainly was out of her mind
angry over illegal aliens getting detained.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
But as far as the.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Fire in the Palisades, nothing, And to this day she
says she says nothing, hoping it goes away because most
of the media doesn't cover this anymore, and they never
pursued her very much to begin with. All Right, when
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we come back, Newsom trying to rip away choices from
independent and Republican voters when it comes to voting for
Congress people, just trying to eliminate the choices so that
only Democrats win in almost all the districts. You've probably
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heard about this. We'll talk about it when we come back.
And oh, we have some babbling, idiotic politicians trying to
dodge direct questioning up in Sacramento. From Ashley Zavalla from KCRTV.
That's good stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Next, you're listening to John co Wells on demand from
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Speaker 1 (19:04):
We're on every day from one until four o'clock.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
After four o'clock, John Cobolt's show on demand on the podcast. So,
in Texas, the Republican legislature is in the process of
redrawing the district lines or passing legislation that would lead
to that, and of course Gavin Newsom is on his
horse claiming that, well, if they do that, then we
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are going to take retaliation here in California and try
to eliminate as many Republican Congress Congressional districts as possible
by redrawing the lines.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Now, he can't do that.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Because the constitutionist says that the mines have to be
drawn by an independent commission. So his idea is to
put on this November's ballot a referendum to redraw the districts,
to overturn the constitution, or at least those amendments, and
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give the Democratic legislature to the power to redraw the
districts as they see fit, as Newsom sees fit, instead
of an independent panel, instead of outsiders.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Newsom wants control.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
And he thinks if he whips up enough anti Trump
hysteria that he'll win, even though two thirds of the
state doesn't want this system touched. Two thirds of the
state as of last week, wants congressional districts to be
drawn by an outside panel, and the Republicans are now
(20:47):
filing a lawsuit against Newsom's redistricting plan because when you
produce new legislation, you're supposed to give the public thirty
days to review it. We're getting three, so that's a
violation too. But in case you know, the judges are
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quite biased to the progressive governors that appointed him, like
Brown and newsom. So if the Supreme Court fails at
its job, then we're going to have to vote. Now,
the question is who specifically wrote these redistricting lines. Who's
drawn them? Nowson approves of them, but he didn't draw
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them himself. It's pretty complicated. You have to draw a
zig zaggy border to try to reach to pull in
as many Democratic votes as possible while eliminating Republican votes
in any given district.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Their goal is.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
To get forty eight of the fifty two districts to
vote Democratic. In other words, no matter what the Republicans
put up as competition, no matter if there's any dependent candidates,
independent and Republican voters will almost never have a choice
in forty eight out of fifty two districts. It's going
to be drawn so the Democrats always win, which of
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course is disgusting, but that's what he's doing.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Now.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Nobody seems to want to admit who is drawing the maps.
I'm going to play you this clip and you are
going to hear Sabrina Cervantes. She's the California State She's
the California State Senate Elections Committee Chairwoman Ashley Zavawa from
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Channel three and Sacramento KCRA is grilling servantes about who
drew the maps and listen to servantes do the big dodge.
Speaker 9 (22:50):
So the Rules Committee was responsible of putting the maps
onto our public website, the Committee on Elections, and so
that has now been posted since Friday and then adjusted
on Monday per ab six.
Speaker 10 (23:08):
So four okay, So.
Speaker 11 (23:10):
Did this committee meet then to draw the lines? And
we were just trying to ascertain who exactly is responsible
for drawing these maps at this point.
Speaker 9 (23:18):
So the criteria has remained the same from the CRC.
Seventy six percent of the districts remained the same, and
that is what Californians will see. There are many folks
stakeholders who have had an input on the map drawing process,
but ultimately this is up to the decision of California voters.
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Whereas the CRC, which we respect. We want to make
sure that there's a nationwide Citizen's Redistricting Commission. But the
reality is we are in an emergency and this is
our emergency.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
There's no emergency. Not one person outside of Gavin knew
some ask for this in state California. I have no
interest in what they do in Texas, not our business.
You're going to have tens of thousands of people who
are independent or Republican and they will have no chance
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to have a Republican candidate in their district get elected
after this. What in God's name does that have to
do with Texas? That's their business. The Texas people don't
like it, they can have their own revolt. But why
why are thousands, tens of thousands of people getting punished
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and they're going to have their choice denied? I thought
Democrats were pro choice. Apparently not when it comes to
picking Congress people, they're not. I know, we got a
lot of stuff here. Let's play a little more of this,
and this.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
Is our emergency response.
Speaker 9 (24:56):
We're giving Californians over two and a half months to
review these maps thoroughly and make a decision on whether
or not we move forward.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Right stop.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
There's not going to be any reasoned, scholarly analytical process
going on here. It's just going to be people screaming
about Trump, trying to whip up the anti Trump passions.
That's going to be the extent of the campaign. Because
most people don't pay attention to any of this. Listen
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to We're gonna play cup one here the assembly Woman
Alexandra Mercedo trying to get a straight answer out of
the Assembly Majority leader Cecilia Agilar Curry. Mesito is a Republican.
Agila Curry is a Democrat. Same question, who drew the
redistricting map. Nobody wants to say.
Speaker 12 (25:47):
Who drew these maps? And I'm not saying general groups.
I'd like specific names who specifically drew these maps.
Speaker 13 (25:55):
So these are the legislator's maps, the legislatures maps.
Speaker 6 (25:58):
We did three important things.
Speaker 13 (26:00):
We took the knowledge of public input from the independent Commission.
We keep them more cities whole than the commissions map,
and we are letting our voters see the maps and
make the ultimate decision.
Speaker 12 (26:11):
Madam Majority of Lee, I understand, I've heard all that.
Who drew the maps? It's a very simple question. Names,
preferably Assembly Okay, I'm in the Assembly and I did
not draw these maps.
Speaker 6 (26:23):
You're the leadership.
Speaker 12 (26:25):
No, and I'm aware of that. But the same way
that in this bill it says that the Assembly Elections Committee,
not Chair Pellerin, not Assembly Member Salatja, not Assembly Member Bennett.
I am a part of that group, so by association,
I've been lumped in mister Bennett. So I'm asking who
drew these maps. The legislature drew the maps, who specifically
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in the legislative.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Legislature drew the maps.
Speaker 12 (26:50):
This is transparency that we don't get to know who
drew them.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
The legislature drew the maps again over seventy six percent.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
That's not what I'm asking to her.
Speaker 12 (27:00):
The maps are coming from her from the respond to that,
I am asking district commission, which is.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
By okay, let's have one person speak at a time, please.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
And my question has not been answered.
Speaker 12 (27:11):
The information you've given, I've already.
Speaker 10 (27:13):
Heard, I've got here. The question has been answered. You
just don't like the answer.
Speaker 1 (27:17):
You said the legislature. I am the legislature. I am
part of the legislature.
Speaker 12 (27:20):
Is that correct, Madam Chair, Because I'm not a Democratic, remember.
Speaker 8 (27:25):
That, you can just try to answer good faith, yeah,
good good. But when we say the leg all kinds
of things happen in the legislature. We're not all involved
in every one, but they're all controlled by the legislative leadership.
The legislative leadership wrote these maps combination. We have a
leader right here, so she's part of the leadership.
Speaker 13 (27:45):
The leadership team leadership teams, the team leadership team personally.
Speaker 12 (27:50):
So then there she's in leadership. And she just said
she didn't.
Speaker 6 (27:52):
Write the maps.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
She had, she had some she she was part of
the leadership.
Speaker 10 (27:57):
Okay, can we bring the debate back to the he's
a team. Okay, you know who the team is.
Speaker 6 (28:02):
I think we've answered the.
Speaker 10 (28:04):
Question has been answered. Do you have another question? And
I'm sorry, did you have a comment you want?
Speaker 14 (28:09):
I just wanted to say, you can all verify this.
This week's edition of Capital Weekly podcast had Paul Mitchell
is their guests from Political Data. He spoke about the
fact that he foregone an Italian vacation with his family
in order to work on redrawing these maps.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Fantastic.
Speaker 12 (28:25):
Why can we not have Paul Mitchell here then to testify?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Oh, some some mystery do you have?
Speaker 10 (28:33):
You have other questions about it? Let's go ahead and
move forward with those questions.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Okay, so some mystery guy named Paul Mitchell while these
these uh, these people were lying by saying it's the leadership,
it's not the leadership.
Speaker 1 (28:47):
These people are stupid, These assembly people.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
They can't draw complex maps to account for all the
variables so that they can rig the election.
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Got another one on to play when we come back.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
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Speaker 2 (29:06):
So they're fighting in Sacramento because the Democrats found some
strange data guru, I guess his name was finally given up,
named Paul Mitchell, and he's the guy drawing these congressional
districts so that Republicans can't get elected for Congress in
California anymore. This plan works, it'll be forty eight out
(29:27):
of the fifty two districts. And we're the media, well
the media, one woman Ashley Zavala from CACRTV is trying
to find out who it is, and so are a
number of California Assembly people, and the Democrats are lying
and covering up. And then finally somebody said, it's a
guy named Paul Mitchell who's with some data company apparently
(29:51):
went on vacation in Italy to drop the lines to
screw tens of thousands of people out of a choice
for who they want as Congress as a congressman. Now
here's Ashley's vollay going after another California Assembly Elections chair.
This is named Gail Pellerin again, same question who drew
(30:12):
the redistricting maps? And listen to pellerin do his stance.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
Who exactly is responsible for the maps? Who do we
tell California voters drew these?
Speaker 9 (30:21):
Well?
Speaker 10 (30:21):
So the maps have been posted on our website since
eight o'clock yesterday. The lines are very clear where people
who can go on and observe and see what we're
doing their adjustments. Many counties and many districts are not
getting touched at all.
Speaker 11 (30:34):
So and I'm sure, I'm sorry. My question is who
is responsible for the maps? Specifically, who do we let
California voters know are responsible for the maps that they
are being presented with?
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Yeah, I mean I think it was a collaboration.
Speaker 10 (30:46):
But yeah, I mean with several people involved who specifically.
I don't have the full list right here with me,
but we could certainly get that too. But these maps
are transparent, they're there for going.
Speaker 11 (30:56):
But who the names of the people the organization? I mean,
Governor Gavin knew some promise that no special interests or
this would be this would be transparent, this would not
be done in a back room. So we're trying to
ascertain in the very short amount of time that you
have to deliberate this, who exactly are the maps responsible
for happening.
Speaker 10 (31:14):
Very quickly, and the folks that were drawing the maps
went back to the Independent Registricting Commission's testimony and what
they heard during their time when they were deliberating this,
and they themselves ran out of time to do the
work that they needed to do. And so we're basing
these on the Voting Rights Act, and we're looking at
really bringing the voters into this process. And that's why
(31:34):
we're going to an election on November fourth, because at
the end of shape, the voter's voice is what matters.
Speaker 11 (31:39):
And we're asking because I mean, we're asking because voters
back in two thousand and eight and twenty ten took
the power away from politicians to draw maps because they
did not like that it was an incumbent protection plan.
So we just need to know, I mean, that's why
we're asking.
Speaker 10 (31:52):
These are definitely unusual times. We are no longer governing
in a democracy. We're governing in an authoritarian government. We
are seeing things that we care so deeply about in California.
We have education, food for children, our immigrant community, our
LGBT community, they are getting decimated by this administration. This
is an all out assault on California's democracy and the
(32:14):
rights and values. So we have to move quickly. But
we are bringing the voters on to this process. We're
letting them know the maps have been posted on the website.
We have this election on November fourth, and at the
end of the day, the voters will decide what is
important to them and whether they want to adjust these
maps to give California the voice it needs in Congress.
Speaker 11 (32:33):
Charon, and you said whether or not stay lawnmmners were
state lawmakers involved in drawing the maps to any state
lawmakers at all, not to my knowledge, So then who
adjusted them last night at eight pm?
Speaker 10 (32:45):
As my understanding that they were by eight am, they
were out. There is a collaboration, but we can get
to the people that actually did that work.
Speaker 11 (32:54):
So then why does the legislation say the detailed maps
are prepared by the Assembly and state Senate elections committees.
Speaker 10 (32:59):
So the reality is that it was a collaboration and
we can get through those specifics. But I think what's
most important is the maps are out there for people
to see, to evaluate to make a judgment on the
launch line.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
I'm not sure about that.
Speaker 6 (33:14):
When you consume something.
Speaker 11 (33:15):
When you consume something, don't you want to know who
makes it? When you are presented with something, don't you
want to know where it's coming from? Don't voters deserve
to know.
Speaker 10 (33:22):
A restaurant, I don't need to meet the chef. I
just enjoy the food.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
I don't need to meet the chef if you're paying
attention closely, and I know it's hard. Through the three
clips we played, they would give different answers to the
same question. First it was, well, it was the legislators.
Then well it wasn't the legislators, and they contradicted themselves
(33:46):
because they were just just scrambling around trying to find
a way to get Ashley Zavalla to shut up, to
stop asking. They didn't want to admit it. Legislators didn't
do this. They're not smart enough to do this. It's
this uh data guru named Paul Mitchell, and they run
through computers and they come up with what's the way
to maximize Democrat votes so that nearly one hundred percent
(34:11):
of the districts ended with a Democrat candidate winning. That's
what it was. They probably used AI, some advanced analysis technology. Well,
you know, it was the legislature. Well no, no, it
wasn't the legislature. And then they say, well, we're unprecedented
times democracy is being threatened. So if democracy is being threatened,
(34:35):
you're taking away the choice from tens of thousands, hundreds
of thousands of voters by reinforcing one party rule in
California that only Democrats can win congressional steats over ninety
percent of the time. That's what they're doing. And they
(34:56):
figure if they talk fast and they contradict themselves and
just blather and babble, well.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
You're not gonna notice.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
All Right, we got Briginia Diegristina live in the KFI
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Speaker 1 (35:08):
Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast.
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