July 2, 2025 • 29 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 3 (07/02) - Mark Thompson fills in for John. Lou Shapiro comes on the show to talk about the verdict in the Diddy trial and Diddy having to stay behind bars as he awaits sentencing. Mark and Debra enjoyed the Mariska Hargitay documentary. A listener says that Gov. Newsom is hustling Mark Thompson. Clayton Kershaw is going for 3,000 strikeouts tonight, he is 3 away.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I Am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
John coblt Away this week Mark Thompson sitting in on
KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
We just had every manner of major legal decision. And
what a great guy to talk to about these cases
and these legal decisions. Lou Shapiro joins just formerly a
deputy public defender in La County, and he's a certified
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criminal law specialist. And you are You're the real thing,
my friend, and Lou Shapiro, it is such a pleasure
to have you join us on KFI.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Thank you, Hey, absolutely glad to be with you on
such an importing matter.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, and this case has taken a couple of twists
and turns. Let's start with the first one, and that
has to do with kind of the charging. We were
talking a lot low about the fact that it would
appear that Sean Combs might have been overcharged with the
Rico case. They couldn't even they couldn't bring it in
obviously with a multipla. But now I'm reading more and
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more about the fact that the federally overreached maybe a
bit on this.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. From the beginning of
the case when they found a rico charge, what comes
to mind is the cartel, the mob, and a lot
of people were scratching their heads like this doesn't seem
to smell like that. But you know, keep an open
mind and say, Okay, maybe when we go to trial
and we hear it out, maybe that evidence will come out.
But it never did. It didn't even get close to it.
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And that's why that you're at the end said, this
is not a racketeering case. It's not a mandatory minimum
fifteen years to life type case. We're not going there for.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The prosecution, and so the lesser charges carrie with them
still multiple years potentially behind bars, right.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Right, but keeping it realistic. He was acquitted of all
the egregious charges. He was acquitted of anything they had
to do with force acts or violence or forcing people
to do things that he didn't want them to do
that he wanted them to do. So the only thing
that was left standing was this prostitution charge. Account that
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bringing someone over state lines to give a prostitution. That's
not the typical seven week jury trial in a federal
court not.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, And so at the end of all of this,
that all goes poof. One thing I wanted to ask
you is about his detention during that seven weeks and
even as they had to panel a jury and all
the rest, he was in behind bars for a long time.
Why is it that Sean Combs was not given bail?
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Do you think during all this was it his celebrity
that worked against him.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I think it's the judge trying to send a message
to him into the public that while he may not
have been convicted of the most serious charges, his conduct
was deplorable. I think everybody agrees on that no one
should be treated the way a lot of these people
were treated it. So there were victims in the case.
Maybe they weren't victims by definition of the sex trafsky
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charges and the racketeering charges, but they were victims. People
were hurt, people felt coerced to do things that it
wanted to release. And that is the message the judges
sending by keeping Bidde in jail.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Okay, but that's the bail de died now I'm asking
about before this case actually was adjudicated, they also kept
him behind bars. Did you feel like that may may
have been also kind of sending a message.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So in as similar as venies, and I'll say that
at the time of deciding whether its mused to be
detained or not, a judgment is allowed to consider the
charges to be true for that purpose, and if they were.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
True, then he would be looking at like in prison,
and in that sense, he would have all the reason
to flee the country. He had the resources to do so,
so the judge wasn't going to be taking a chance
on him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I see, Okay, well, that's fascinating. I didn't know that.
That's the part of the law that you know. I
had no sense of Thank you, Lu Shapiro. We're talking
to him about the did he trial, and of course
by now most of you know that Sean Combs has
quitted on the most serious charges, So now it's likely
that we get a sentencing, and again just a handicap
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at Lou, you feel as though there may be some
discounting of all of these multiple years that we hear about.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Definitely, the prosecution is saying we're going to still be
asking for the maximum time. But I think at the
end of the day, a federal judge they have to
take into account what others similarly situated defendants get in
these types of cases, And it's not the tenth to
twenty years. I would be surprised if there's a double
digit number on comes in this case. I think he's
looking realistically somewhere between five and eight years on the sentend.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay, but five and eight years is still last a
long time. He's fifty five years old. He'll do all
that time.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Well, he'll get credit for the time he's done already.
And you don't do the entire time. You do about
eighty five percent. And there are other ways to earn
a good time credit under the first step back by
Trump in the previous administration.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But lu Shapiro the idea somehow that he might just
go to a halfway house and chill out for the
time that we're talking about serve out a sentence there.
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, it wouldn't happen right away. Now, Look, it depends
on at the rumber sentencing in some time a way,
So both sides will be submitting their brief, the probation
Department will be providing their recommendation, and the judge will
have to decide and based on what the judge decides,
that's what the sentence will be. That his lawyers are
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going to be asking for time served, that he's served
enough time. Given this as just a prostitution commissionside case,
she'll be asking for.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Him go ahead. I'm sorry, prostitute.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The prosecution is going to be asking for the maximum
I presume, right, Yeah, they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Ask for the maximums. Up to the judge to decide.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Where it shu Land, I was going to ask you
about the conditions that he's he's serving under, in other words,
the conditions of that place where he is.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What is that like?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's awful they people are treated, I want to say,
like animals. I think the idea is that that's the
only way to control the prison population. So that's how
deputies are trained to do so. But it's not very
well kept. There's all sorts of gag issues that are
occurring within the prisons. You have to know certain people
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to get what you want. It's a higher key in there.
It's something that that that no one should ever know from.
I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But as this guy is wealthy and powerful on some level,
would he have that experience or would he have a
different experience.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, presumably the location that he's in doesn't want any
issues to happen to him, so he probably would be
for the most part segregated from a lot of the
general population inside. But that's also no fun just to
be isolated and not being able to socialize, communicate and
do things with a group of people.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So you wouldn't recommend this for Fourth of July weekend.
It doesn't sound like Lou Shapiro.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, and not my first optionsly, you know, there's definitely
a good amount of fireworks in there.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know a Debora Lou Shapiro is the guy I
need to ask about the speeding ticket I got that's
now costing me nine thousand dollars this year.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Good luck with that, Yeah, Lou.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Once I paid the speeding ticket, I didn't think anything
of it. I haven't had a ticket in fifteen years,
so I just paid it. Apparently it's cost my insurance
to go up to nine thousand dollars this year, and
there's no way to vacate it after the fact. I
don't think even for a big, powerful lawyer like Lou Shapiro.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well, I think I may have the perfect traffic ticket
lawyer to connect you with. Right after that, Uh, don't
lose hope.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Wait a minute, all right, Uh Eric, keep Lou on hold.
Oh my god, Deborah, this could be your.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Most shocked I thought you were screwed.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Christmas comes early on the John Coblt Show. Lou, appreciate you,
Thank you so much for helping us through this entire thing.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Hang on, Hang on the line, Lu Shapiro with the
x's and o's of the law. It is the John
Coblt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Speaking of a law and order going international. I watched
that Mariska Hartigaye documentary. She is, of course being the
lead on law and order. I think there are a
lot of law and orders. I don't know which one
is she SVU or I don't know what which one
it is, but she's you know, she's really now part
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of the culture of law and order right of the show.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And it's good.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Now she was the daughter of Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield
was This is the great thing about the film. There's
so many layers of so many people who were extraordinary people,
and her mother, Jane Mansfield, was one of them. Jane
Mansfield was a screen star and apparently, you know, world
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famous and had the look of sort of a Marilyn
Monroe look, right, sex forward, sexy sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
She herself, I think, I want to say, suffer to
the tough childhood as I recalled in the film. But
the thing that was amazing about her. One of the
things was that she was a genius. I mean, she
was to scale genius. I think she had an IQ
of one sixty six. And she had a gift for music.
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She was a violinist, she was a pianist. I mean, again,
this is in a hard scrabble childhood that didn't expose
her to like a lot of high end you know,
art schools and music schools. She had a really rough
time and yet she grew up with this terrific as
I say, ability and intellect and she was crushing it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But here is.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
The sad part, slash interesting part when she comes to Hollywood.
They don't want to know about how smart she is
or how gifted she is. They want to play the
sex card. She's hot looking, right, and they want to
play the heat. So she is again like a Marilyn
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Monroe type and she ends up in all of those
ways realizing I have to play along with the beat
that they've laid down for me, which is to play
the you know, the femme fatale kind of hot woman,
a pin up star. I mean, she really was literally
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a pin up star at the time, and it was
wild Deborah to see this back and forth, you know,
like the tug o' war in her own mind and
in the culture of Hollywood that really suppressed her magic.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You know.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Well, and then when she was trying to not be
that woman right when she wanted to be taken seriously,
then she wasn't getting offered the parts, and so then
she had to go back to being the woman that
she didn't really want to portray. And the other thing,
I just you know, here's this beautiful, smart woman who
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chose some men that were not very nice to her,
and that's what made me sad too.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, her choice in men was bad. She ended up
with tough guys, mobster, but the guy who really loved her,
it seemed and embraced these children of that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And I don't want to spoil them. Yes, exactly, So
I'm not going to spoil them.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I know we have to kind of.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But the guy who was I think the enduring male
love of her life, and that is to say enduring
on his side, like he really took on the romantic headwinds.
If you want to think of the relationship headwinds, it
was this guy who was the was he mister Universe
or whatever he is. Yeah, yeah, it's really good and
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I would recommend it. It's on HBO Max or whatever
they're calling it now.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
But yeah, there is so many layers to this, and
it really is.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
It's fascinating. There's something in this for everyone. So if
you think, oh, yeah, I'm not a big you know
Marissa haggertay fan or you know Jane Mansfield, I mean
there's just there's there's there's just so many layers in it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm not a I mean, I'm not a hater.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I mean Mariska Hardigay, I know her. I think she
does great work. She's a really great actress. But I'm
not some like fanboy from risk Hardigay or for Jane Mansfield.
But I know the story of Jane Mansfield and how
she died tragically in this car accident, and there are
a lot of details about that that I didn't know
that are in the movie.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And you know her dad didn't her dad died in
a car accident.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yes, that's right, that's right, which I thought that was.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Just there's a bunch of eerie coincidence in this film.
But one of the great things about it, and then
we'll move on, But one of the great things about
it is the.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
First person perspective you have.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That is to say, she's making the discoveries along with
the audience. They follow her on this journey of discovery
Mariska Hardigay. So she's making discoveries about her own family,
and she's having interactions about her own background and connections
that we're realizing at the same time she is. It's
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really compelling. So both Deborah and I give it the
five star rating.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Did you also, just since we're talking about these documentaries,
did you see the Barbara Walters documentary?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
No, I haven't, By the way, I just wanted to.
It's called my mom Jane j a y any No,
I haven't where is that one.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I believe that's I'd have to look up. Oh, Hulu.
I believe it's Hulu, okay.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
And it just it's all about Barbara Walter's life and
how she climbed to the top and the sacrifices she made.
And I mean, I just remember just being in high
school and my dream.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Was to be Barbara Walters.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
I just admired her so much as a female wanting
to be a journalist, and so I especially loved it.
I mean, a lot of it I knew, but it
if you are a journalism fan, and if you're a
Barbara Walters fan, you're definitely gonna like it.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh great, I'm going to So it's on Hulu. Barbara
Walters Documentary. It says here Netflix.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Oh it's a Netflix.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
No, but no, it says Hulu.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
No, okay, Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Geez Barbara Walters. It's called Tell Me Everything, Yes, and
it's available on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
All right. I haven't seen that yet, oh anywhere.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
There's some interesting things about her that I didn't know either,
So it's it's worth your while.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
She definitely broke the glass ceiling. I mean, she h
for sure. It was so hard for women in this
business dominated by all businesses were pretty much dominated by men,
but broadcasting she always Walter Crome fully.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
By some men, and then her rivalry with Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh cool, all I'll check it out. All right. Those
are your movie recommendations. It's the co Belt Show. Thompson
sitting in on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I got an email after a conversation we had yesterday.
I guess it was maybe it was Monday. Monday, the
legislation was signed into law. It was a piece of
legislation signed by the governor and it rolls back the
environmental regulations to essentially it suggested kind of jumpstart housing
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and all of this hornet's nest of environmental regulations of
one sort or another that have always been more or
less the cornerstone of issues when it comes to building
that kind of slowed the building process in California. They're
getting cut through because of this new legislation, and it's
being hailed as just that as getting more housing available
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sooner because now the environmental thicket has been thinned.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, so it's against that backdrop.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But we were kind of doing the story and I
got a really good email from this guy, Richard Ferris,
who is a in the construction world. He says, Mark,
I enjoy you filling in on KFI. By the way,
that's a great way to start any email. Thank you.
I'm afraid that Newsome hustled you with the appearance of
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throwing the environmentalists under the bus for the benefit of
affordable housing. What the governor really did was throw people
who give him a little money under the bus for
the benefit of people who give him a lot of
money with little or no improvement to affordability. If you
look at the proposal, Richard says, you will see that
it is conditioned on developers paying quote prevailing wages to
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all craftsmen on the projects. Prevailing wages are not the
prevailing wages paid in a non union homebuilding environment. Rather,
they are union wages, which are about twice normal wages.
Since labor is about half of normal construction cost, that
means a twenty five percent increase construction cost. It is
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doubtful that the reduced environmental regulations can offset such a cost.
The building trades have become experts at slipping this kind
of thing into bills which force union wages on non
signatory entities, thereby reducing management resistance to unionization since they're
already forced to pay union wages and benefits like always.
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He says, follow the money. Thank you for this email, Richard,
And I think Richard is right. I double back read
through the legislation and sure enough, I mean it really
is designed on some level to make sure the unions
are taken care of and that union labor is integrated
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into all of this construction work that's talked about. So
it can be played as environmental rollback and regulatory rollback,
But what is also happening is that there is an imphysition,
if you will, of this blueprint to get more union
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labor into the housing construction market. And so that is
the other side, at minimum of this major housing reform
that was championed on Monday as the thing that would
bring transformative housing legislation to the state capitol. And while
it may transform on one level, it may not FastTrack
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a build out the way they're talking about it. California
bars must Now by the way, my email is the
Mark Thompson Show at gmail dot com. That's what Richard
was reached me at that. That's from my YouTube show,
The Mark Thompson Show. So that's or my podcast which
is also on IR Radio. Anyway, the Mark Thompson Show
at gmail dot com. Thank you again, Richard for that.
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California bars and nightclubs already requiring these signs that are posted.
You've probably see them, let letting the customers know that
drug testing kits are available. Now there is going to
have to be a stack of lids handy. One more
method for protecting patrons from drinks that have been drugged.
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This is a new Assembly bill went into effect yesterday.
It requires any establishment in the state of California where
alcohol is sold for on site consumption to have lids
at the ready upon customer request. So many people are
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drugging each other in these bars that they need this legislation.
It's crazy what is going on in these bars. The
bar and nightclub owners in La spoken to for the
story that ran in the La Times seem to understand it.
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They say it's an insignificant cause for the safety of
their customers. There weren't lids here before, and now there are,
said one bar owner. Not much has changed. Doesn't cost anything.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
All right.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
According to the bill, there's no requirement to provide the
lid unless requested by the customer, and they can charge
a reasonable and it's in quotes price for a lid
if they choose. Y'all be careful out there. I guess
it's a much tougher world at the bar scene than
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it used to be.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Really.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
The guys are that horny that they have to drug
women and because they can't find anybody else that's going
to go home with them.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Willingly, well you do bottom line it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think that apparently that's happening in large enough numbers
that I'd say, ladies, take your drinks with you to
the ladies so we can only nanny state you so
far right. It's John Cobolt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in
or KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Clayton Kershaw on his way to three thousand strikeouts. Is
that I think that tonight it could happen. Yeah, he's
three strikeouts away. How great is that? What a night?
What else is happening out there tonight? Yamamoto babblehead night?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Come on, now, come.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
On, it's the first ten thousand to give him to everybody.
I believe it's the first forty thousand.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's pretty terrific. Man. There are a lot of Major
League clubs that they just go first ten thousand, you know,
or well.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
I mean the Dodgers attracted a few more fans than
some other teams, that is.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
True, but that's one of the reasons. I mean, I
think they build that franchise. Look, Otani was with the Angels, right,
and he was there for how many seasons? Eric, I
mean I believe six or seven. I mean there was
no building around that brand. I mean, he was the
brilliant ballplayer that he is now back then. Yeah, the
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Dodgers built this aura around him and the rest of
the team that matters. I mean, the Angels weren't a
great team when they had him, I don't think, but
the Dodgers market so well.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
And yeah, and I mean winning the World Series in
his first season kind of helps too.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Sure, As I say, it was a much better team.
But you're you're right. I mean, they won it all,
but this would be exciting kershaw tonight, well have fun
that shit. Yeah, that's gonna be a that's gonna be
a good one. Single people, Tinder is now requiring that
you scan your face. They need facial recognition scans for
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all California users. They're trying to build trust among users
and apparently there's scams and frauds that are plaguing a
lot of these dating apps. Did you see the tender
swin documentary. I don't know if anybody's familiar with that.
It was a few years ago, but a guy who
sort of repped that he was a big money I
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want to say, he was like a comes out of
the Middle East somewhere I forget where, but he had
you know, he's always messaging in a video from his
Lamborghini or there was all this sort of really over
the top stuff related to who he was and what
he had, and it turned out, of course that he
had nothing and he was stringing along all of these women.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The I think it won an Emmy.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
The the doc was called the Tinder Swindler.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Any remember the MTV show Catfished. Oh my God, yes,
that was a little bit before Tender, but same concept. No,
that absolutely is totally misrepresenting. That's a great movie. The
it was.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
The documentary Catfished or Catfish that birthed the show, right,
or did the show?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I think that was the way it went. And then
they did the show on MTV.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, and the show on MTV was essentially every episode
they were revealing another catfish scam. But online you really
do find yourself vulnerable to whatever story somebody's telling you,
and if it's told in a credible enough way they
tell it on video, you kind of look to see,
you know, what stuff's around the person, and you establish
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their credibility on your own, you can end up getting screwed.
And that's sort of what they're doing here on Tender.
So now facial recognition scan for all users in California
will be required. But I'm looking at Tender's other thing.
They have a group dating feature they're trying to get.
(25:44):
I'm laughing because it just seems like, I don't know,
the whole thing seems like a hookup app to begin with,
and now you've got some kind of, you know, freaky
diddy kind of hookup thing going on Apparently they are
launching and they did launch already a double dating feature,
apparently so you could build joint profiles with friends to
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match with other double date type situations. Double Date, as
the feature is called, is the refined version of this
product that they tried to get launched called Tender Social
that was discontinued in twenty seventeen. To activate double Date,
users select up to three friends to create a pair with.
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Then they can browse and like other paired users. When
both pairs like each other, a group chat opens. All
four people are in the group chat to coordinate plans.
This feature also allows users to message individuals with a
matched pair privately if they want to transition to a
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one on one conversation. I like you, but I'm not
crazy about that other person who you brought into our
group chat. Users can maintain multiple pairings with different friends
while keeping their individual dating profile separate. They tried this
in Europe and Latin America and apparently it's very popular,
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particularly with young users. It's meant to help relieve dating
stress for younger users, says Tender's head of product marketing,
and Tender continues to till new soil. You know, where
Tender's based. Don't you anybody know where Tender's based? Isn't
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it San Francisco, West Hollywood?
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
No way? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I was surprised by that also, I figured, yeah, somewhere
in Silicon Valley, San Francisco. Nearly ninety percent of the
people who tried double Date were under twenty nine, So
they're trying to expand Tender to a younger generation. And
it appears that this group makes it safer for women
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that women. They say, based on their information and their data,
they're three times more likely to show interest impaired profiles
compared to individuals just using it one on one.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So, uh, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I remember when Okaycupid was just starting and match dot com,
and now you have so many you have invite only
things that Aryah and all these other When I'm asking
people how did you meet, they always serve up some
new online app that I've never heard of. All of
you who are as single, it's a great thing to
(28:43):
be able to connect with people virtually all of these
different apps, But man, it's also just a thicket of trouble.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
It's just a lot to go through, you know, Plus
when you put your profile up there. If you don't
get any bites early on, it's a blow to your ego.
Take it from me, I know, thank God that part
of my life is over.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But on the other hand, when you are.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
On those apps and you connect with somebody who you like,
it's a pretty great uh, it's a great day. So
with that, I wish you a happy Fourth of July.
I thank everybody on this show. We're full this station
and this building of great patriots, and it's great to
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be around you all on this Fourth of July week.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
John returns next week.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
We're KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
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You can always hear the show live on KFI AM
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John coblt Away this week Mark Thompson sitting in on
KFI AM six forty live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app.
We just had every manner of major legal decision. And
what a great guy to talk to about these cases
and these legal decisions. Lou Shapiro joins just formerly a
deputy public defender in La County, and he's a certified
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criminal law specialist. And you are You're the real thing,
my friend, and Lou Shapiro, it is such a pleasure
to have you join us on KFI.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Thank you, Hey, absolutely glad to be with you on
such an importing matter.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, and this case has taken a couple of twists
and turns. Let's start with the first one, and that
has to do with kind of the charging. We were
talking a lot low about the fact that it would
appear that Sean Combs might have been overcharged with the
Rico case. They couldn't even they couldn't bring it in
obviously with a multipla. But now I'm reading more and
(01:02):
more about the fact that the federally overreached maybe a
bit on this.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
Yeah, there's no doubt about it. From the beginning of
the case when they found a rico charge, what comes
to mind is the cartel, the mob, and a lot
of people were scratching their heads like this doesn't seem
to smell like that. But you know, keep an open
mind and say, Okay, maybe when we go to trial
and we hear it out, maybe that evidence will come out.
But it never did. It didn't even get close to it.
(01:30):
And that's why that you're at the end said, this
is not a racketeering case. It's not a mandatory minimum
fifteen years to life type case. We're not going there for.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
The prosecution, and so the lesser charges carrie with them
still multiple years potentially behind bars, right.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Right, but keeping it realistic. He was acquitted of all
the egregious charges. He was acquitted of anything they had
to do with force acts or violence or forcing people
to do things that he didn't want them to do
that he wanted them to do. So the only thing
that was left standing was this prostitution charge. Account that
(02:10):
bringing someone over state lines to give a prostitution. That's
not the typical seven week jury trial in a federal
court not.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Yeah, And so at the end of all of this,
that all goes poof. One thing I wanted to ask
you is about his detention during that seven weeks and
even as they had to panel a jury and all
the rest, he was in behind bars for a long time.
Why is it that Sean Combs was not given bail?
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Do you think during all this was it his celebrity
that worked against him.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
I think it's the judge trying to send a message
to him into the public that while he may not
have been convicted of the most serious charges, his conduct
was deplorable. I think everybody agrees on that no one
should be treated the way a lot of these people
were treated it. So there were victims in the case.
Maybe they weren't victims by definition of the sex trafsky
(03:06):
charges and the racketeering charges, but they were victims. People
were hurt, people felt coerced to do things that it
wanted to release. And that is the message the judges
sending by keeping Bidde in jail.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Okay, but that's the bail de died now I'm asking
about before this case actually was adjudicated, they also kept
him behind bars. Did you feel like that may may
have been also kind of sending a message.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
So in as similar as venies, and I'll say that
at the time of deciding whether its mused to be
detained or not, a judgment is allowed to consider the
charges to be true for that purpose, and if they were.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
True, then he would be looking at like in prison,
and in that sense, he would have all the reason
to flee the country. He had the resources to do so,
so the judge wasn't going to be taking a chance
on him.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
I see, Okay, well, that's fascinating. I didn't know that.
That's the part of the law that you know. I
had no sense of Thank you, Lu Shapiro. We're talking
to him about the did he trial, and of course
by now most of you know that Sean Combs has
quitted on the most serious charges, So now it's likely
that we get a sentencing, and again just a handicap
(04:18):
at Lou, you feel as though there may be some
discounting of all of these multiple years that we hear about.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Definitely, the prosecution is saying we're going to still be
asking for the maximum time. But I think at the
end of the day, a federal judge they have to
take into account what others similarly situated defendants get in
these types of cases, And it's not the tenth to
twenty years. I would be surprised if there's a double
digit number on comes in this case. I think he's
looking realistically somewhere between five and eight years on the sentend.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
Okay, but five and eight years is still last a
long time. He's fifty five years old. He'll do all
that time.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
Well, he'll get credit for the time he's done already.
And you don't do the entire time. You do about
eighty five percent. And there are other ways to earn
a good time credit under the first step back by
Trump in the previous administration.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
But lu Shapiro the idea somehow that he might just
go to a halfway house and chill out for the
time that we're talking about serve out a sentence there.
That's not going to happen.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
No, it wouldn't happen right away. Now, Look, it depends
on at the rumber sentencing in some time a way,
So both sides will be submitting their brief, the probation
Department will be providing their recommendation, and the judge will
have to decide and based on what the judge decides,
that's what the sentence will be. That his lawyers are
(05:45):
going to be asking for time served, that he's served
enough time. Given this as just a prostitution commissionside case,
she'll be asking for.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Him go ahead. I'm sorry, prostitute.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
The prosecution is going to be asking for the maximum
I presume, right, Yeah, they're gonna.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Ask for the maximums. Up to the judge to decide.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Where it shu Land, I was going to ask you
about the conditions that he's he's serving under, in other words,
the conditions of that place where he is.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
What is that like?
Speaker 4 (06:16):
It's awful they people are treated, I want to say,
like animals. I think the idea is that that's the
only way to control the prison population. So that's how
deputies are trained to do so. But it's not very
well kept. There's all sorts of gag issues that are
occurring within the prisons. You have to know certain people
(06:39):
to get what you want. It's a higher key in there.
It's something that that that no one should ever know from.
I wouldn't recommend it to anybody.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
But as this guy is wealthy and powerful on some level,
would he have that experience or would he have a
different experience.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Well, presumably the location that he's in doesn't want any
issues to happen to him, so he probably would be
for the most part segregated from a lot of the
general population inside. But that's also no fun just to
be isolated and not being able to socialize, communicate and
do things with a group of people.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
So you wouldn't recommend this for Fourth of July weekend.
It doesn't sound like Lou Shapiro.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Yeah, and not my first optionsly, you know, there's definitely
a good amount of fireworks in there.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Yeah, there you go, there you go.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
You know a Debora Lou Shapiro is the guy I
need to ask about the speeding ticket I got that's
now costing me nine thousand dollars this year.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Good luck with that, Yeah, Lou.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
Once I paid the speeding ticket, I didn't think anything
of it. I haven't had a ticket in fifteen years,
so I just paid it. Apparently it's cost my insurance
to go up to nine thousand dollars this year, and
there's no way to vacate it after the fact. I
don't think even for a big, powerful lawyer like Lou Shapiro.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Well, I think I may have the perfect traffic ticket
lawyer to connect you with. Right after that, Uh, don't
lose hope.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Wait a minute, all right, Uh Eric, keep Lou on hold.
Oh my god, Deborah, this could be your.
Speaker 6 (08:11):
Most shocked I thought you were screwed.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Christmas comes early on the John Coblt Show. Lou, appreciate you,
Thank you so much for helping us through this entire thing.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Appreciate you being here.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Hang on, Hang on the line, Lu Shapiro with the
x's and o's of the law. It is the John
Coblt Show. Mark Thompson sitting in on KFI AM six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Speaking of a law and order going international. I watched
that Mariska Hartigaye documentary. She is, of course being the
lead on law and order. I think there are a
lot of law and orders. I don't know which one
is she SVU or I don't know what which one
it is, but she's you know, she's really now part
(09:01):
of the culture of law and order right of the show.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And it's good.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
It's so good.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
Now she was the daughter of Jane Mansfield. Jane Mansfield
was This is the great thing about the film. There's
so many layers of so many people who were extraordinary people,
and her mother, Jane Mansfield, was one of them. Jane
Mansfield was a screen star and apparently, you know, world
(09:34):
famous and had the look of sort of a Marilyn
Monroe look, right, sex forward, sexy sort of thing.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
Yeah, and.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
She herself, I think, I want to say, suffer to
the tough childhood as I recalled in the film. But
the thing that was amazing about her. One of the
things was that she was a genius. I mean, she
was to scale genius. I think she had an IQ
of one sixty six. And she had a gift for music.
(10:08):
She was a violinist, she was a pianist. I mean, again,
this is in a hard scrabble childhood that didn't expose
her to like a lot of high end you know,
art schools and music schools. She had a really rough
time and yet she grew up with this terrific as
I say, ability and intellect and she was crushing it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
But here is.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
The sad part, slash interesting part when she comes to Hollywood.
They don't want to know about how smart she is
or how gifted she is. They want to play the
sex card. She's hot looking, right, and they want to
play the heat. So she is again like a Marilyn
(10:52):
Monroe type and she ends up in all of those
ways realizing I have to play along with the beat
that they've laid down for me, which is to play
the you know, the femme fatale kind of hot woman,
a pin up star. I mean, she really was literally
(11:12):
a pin up star at the time, and it was
wild Deborah to see this back and forth, you know,
like the tug o' war in her own mind and
in the culture of Hollywood that really suppressed her magic.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
You know.
Speaker 8 (11:29):
Well, and then when she was trying to not be
that woman right when she wanted to be taken seriously,
then she wasn't getting offered the parts, and so then
she had to go back to being the woman that
she didn't really want to portray. And the other thing,
I just you know, here's this beautiful, smart woman who
(11:49):
chose some men that were not very nice to her,
and that's what made me sad too.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Well, her choice in men was bad. She ended up
with tough guys, mobster, but the guy who really loved her,
it seemed and embraced these children of that.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
And I don't want to spoil them. Yes, exactly, So
I'm not going to spoil them.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I know we have to kind of.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But the guy who was I think the enduring male
love of her life, and that is to say enduring
on his side, like he really took on the romantic headwinds.
If you want to think of the relationship headwinds, it
was this guy who was the was he mister Universe
or whatever he is. Yeah, yeah, it's really good and
(12:39):
I would recommend it. It's on HBO Max or whatever
they're calling it now.
Speaker 6 (12:44):
But yeah, there is so many layers to this, and
it really is.
Speaker 8 (12:49):
It's fascinating. There's something in this for everyone. So if
you think, oh, yeah, I'm not a big you know
Marissa haggertay fan or you know Jane Mansfield, I mean
there's just there's there's there's just so many layers in it.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
I'm not a I mean, I'm not a hater.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I mean Mariska Hardigay, I know her. I think she
does great work. She's a really great actress. But I'm
not some like fanboy from risk Hardigay or for Jane Mansfield.
But I know the story of Jane Mansfield and how
she died tragically in this car accident, and there are
a lot of details about that that I didn't know
that are in the movie.
Speaker 6 (13:22):
And you know her dad didn't her dad died in
a car accident.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yes, that's right, that's right, which I thought that was.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Just there's a bunch of eerie coincidence in this film.
But one of the great things about it, and then
we'll move on, But one of the great things about
it is the.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
First person perspective you have.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
That is to say, she's making the discoveries along with
the audience. They follow her on this journey of discovery
Mariska Hardigay. So she's making discoveries about her own family,
and she's having interactions about her own background and connections
that we're realizing at the same time she is. It's
(14:05):
really compelling. So both Deborah and I give it the
five star rating.
Speaker 8 (14:11):
Did you also, just since we're talking about these documentaries,
did you see the Barbara Walters documentary?
Speaker 3 (14:17):
No, I haven't, By the way, I just wanted to.
It's called my mom Jane j a y any No,
I haven't where is that one.
Speaker 6 (14:23):
I believe that's I'd have to look up. Oh, Hulu.
I believe it's Hulu, okay.
Speaker 8 (14:28):
And it just it's all about Barbara Walter's life and
how she climbed to the top and the sacrifices she made.
And I mean, I just remember just being in high
school and my dream.
Speaker 6 (14:39):
Was to be Barbara Walters.
Speaker 8 (14:41):
I just admired her so much as a female wanting
to be a journalist, and so I especially loved it.
I mean, a lot of it I knew, but it
if you are a journalism fan, and if you're a
Barbara Walters fan, you're definitely gonna like it.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Oh great, I'm going to So it's on Hulu. Barbara
Walters Documentary. It says here Netflix.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
Oh it's a Netflix.
Speaker 1 (15:06):
No, but no, it says Hulu.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
No, okay, Yeah, it's very.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Geez Barbara Walters. It's called Tell Me Everything, Yes, and
it's available on Hulu.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
All right. I haven't seen that yet, oh anywhere.
Speaker 8 (15:19):
There's some interesting things about her that I didn't know either,
So it's it's worth your while.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
She definitely broke the glass ceiling. I mean, she h
for sure. It was so hard for women in this
business dominated by all businesses were pretty much dominated by men,
but broadcasting she always Walter Crome fully.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
By some men, and then her rivalry with Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 6 (15:40):
It's fascinating.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
Oh cool, all I'll check it out. All right. Those
are your movie recommendations. It's the co Belt Show. Thompson
sitting in on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (15:50):
You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I got an email after a conversation we had yesterday.
I guess it was maybe it was Monday. Monday, the
legislation was signed into law. It was a piece of
legislation signed by the governor and it rolls back the
environmental regulations to essentially it suggested kind of jumpstart housing
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and all of this hornet's nest of environmental regulations of
one sort or another that have always been more or
less the cornerstone of issues when it comes to building
that kind of slowed the building process in California. They're
getting cut through because of this new legislation, and it's
being hailed as just that as getting more housing available
(16:47):
sooner because now the environmental thicket has been thinned.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Okay, so it's against that backdrop.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
But we were kind of doing the story and I
got a really good email from this guy, Richard Ferris,
who is a in the construction world. He says, Mark,
I enjoy you filling in on KFI. By the way,
that's a great way to start any email. Thank you.
I'm afraid that Newsome hustled you with the appearance of
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throwing the environmentalists under the bus for the benefit of
affordable housing. What the governor really did was throw people
who give him a little money under the bus for
the benefit of people who give him a lot of
money with little or no improvement to affordability. If you
look at the proposal, Richard says, you will see that
it is conditioned on developers paying quote prevailing wages to
(17:38):
all craftsmen on the projects. Prevailing wages are not the
prevailing wages paid in a non union homebuilding environment. Rather,
they are union wages, which are about twice normal wages.
Since labor is about half of normal construction cost, that
means a twenty five percent increase construction cost. It is
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doubtful that the reduced environmental regulations can offset such a cost.
The building trades have become experts at slipping this kind
of thing into bills which force union wages on non
signatory entities, thereby reducing management resistance to unionization since they're
already forced to pay union wages and benefits like always.
(18:25):
He says, follow the money. Thank you for this email, Richard,
And I think Richard is right. I double back read
through the legislation and sure enough, I mean it really
is designed on some level to make sure the unions
are taken care of and that union labor is integrated
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into all of this construction work that's talked about. So
it can be played as environmental rollback and regulatory rollback,
But what is also happening is that there is an imphysition,
if you will, of this blueprint to get more union
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labor into the housing construction market. And so that is
the other side, at minimum of this major housing reform
that was championed on Monday as the thing that would
bring transformative housing legislation to the state capitol. And while
it may transform on one level, it may not FastTrack
(19:32):
a build out the way they're talking about it. California
bars must Now by the way, my email is the
Mark Thompson Show at gmail dot com. That's what Richard
was reached me at that. That's from my YouTube show,
The Mark Thompson Show. So that's or my podcast which
is also on IR Radio. Anyway, the Mark Thompson Show
at gmail dot com. Thank you again, Richard for that.
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California bars and nightclubs already requiring these signs that are posted.
You've probably see them, let letting the customers know that
drug testing kits are available. Now there is going to
have to be a stack of lids handy. One more
method for protecting patrons from drinks that have been drugged.
(20:13):
This is a new Assembly bill went into effect yesterday.
It requires any establishment in the state of California where
alcohol is sold for on site consumption to have lids
at the ready upon customer request. So many people are
(20:34):
drugging each other in these bars that they need this legislation.
It's crazy what is going on in these bars. The
bar and nightclub owners in La spoken to for the
story that ran in the La Times seem to understand it.
(20:55):
They say it's an insignificant cause for the safety of
their customers. There weren't lids here before, and now there are,
said one bar owner. Not much has changed. Doesn't cost anything.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
All right.
Speaker 3 (21:12):
According to the bill, there's no requirement to provide the
lid unless requested by the customer, and they can charge
a reasonable and it's in quotes price for a lid
if they choose. Y'all be careful out there. I guess
it's a much tougher world at the bar scene than
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it used to be.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Really.
Speaker 8 (21:34):
The guys are that horny that they have to drug
women and because they can't find anybody else that's going
to go home with them.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Willingly, well you do bottom line it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
I think that apparently that's happening in large enough numbers
that I'd say, ladies, take your drinks with you to
the ladies so we can only nanny state you so
far right. It's John Cobolt Show, Mark Thompson sitting in
or KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (22:04):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Clayton Kershaw on his way to three thousand strikeouts. Is
that I think that tonight it could happen. Yeah, he's
three strikeouts away. How great is that? What a night?
What else is happening out there tonight? Yamamoto babblehead night?
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Come on, now, come.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
On, it's the first ten thousand to give him to everybody.
I believe it's the first forty thousand.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
That's pretty terrific. Man. There are a lot of Major
League clubs that they just go first ten thousand, you know,
or well.
Speaker 9 (22:41):
I mean the Dodgers attracted a few more fans than
some other teams, that is.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
True, but that's one of the reasons. I mean, I
think they build that franchise. Look, Otani was with the Angels, right,
and he was there for how many seasons? Eric, I
mean I believe six or seven. I mean there was
no building around that brand. I mean, he was the
brilliant ballplayer that he is now back then. Yeah, the
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Dodgers built this aura around him and the rest of
the team that matters. I mean, the Angels weren't a
great team when they had him, I don't think, but
the Dodgers market so well.
Speaker 9 (23:17):
And yeah, and I mean winning the World Series in
his first season kind of helps too.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Sure, As I say, it was a much better team.
But you're you're right. I mean, they won it all,
but this would be exciting kershaw tonight, well have fun
that shit. Yeah, that's gonna be a that's gonna be
a good one. Single people, Tinder is now requiring that
you scan your face. They need facial recognition scans for
(23:45):
all California users. They're trying to build trust among users
and apparently there's scams and frauds that are plaguing a
lot of these dating apps. Did you see the tender
swin documentary. I don't know if anybody's familiar with that.
It was a few years ago, but a guy who
sort of repped that he was a big money I
(24:08):
want to say, he was like a comes out of
the Middle East somewhere I forget where, but he had
you know, he's always messaging in a video from his
Lamborghini or there was all this sort of really over
the top stuff related to who he was and what
he had, and it turned out, of course that he
had nothing and he was stringing along all of these women.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
The I think it won an Emmy.
Speaker 3 (24:33):
The the doc was called the Tinder Swindler.
Speaker 9 (24:38):
Any remember the MTV show Catfished. Oh my God, yes,
that was a little bit before Tender, but same concept. No,
that absolutely is totally misrepresenting. That's a great movie. The
it was.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
The documentary Catfished or Catfish that birthed the show, right,
or did the show?
Speaker 1 (24:56):
I think that was the way it went. And then
they did the show on MTV.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Yeah, and the show on MTV was essentially every episode
they were revealing another catfish scam. But online you really
do find yourself vulnerable to whatever story somebody's telling you,
and if it's told in a credible enough way they
tell it on video, you kind of look to see,
you know, what stuff's around the person, and you establish
(25:23):
their credibility on your own, you can end up getting screwed.
And that's sort of what they're doing here on Tender.
So now facial recognition scan for all users in California
will be required. But I'm looking at Tender's other thing.
They have a group dating feature they're trying to get.
(25:44):
I'm laughing because it just seems like, I don't know,
the whole thing seems like a hookup app to begin with,
and now you've got some kind of, you know, freaky
diddy kind of hookup thing going on Apparently they are
launching and they did launch already a double dating feature,
apparently so you could build joint profiles with friends to
(26:08):
match with other double date type situations. Double Date, as
the feature is called, is the refined version of this
product that they tried to get launched called Tender Social
that was discontinued in twenty seventeen. To activate double Date,
users select up to three friends to create a pair with.
(26:31):
Then they can browse and like other paired users. When
both pairs like each other, a group chat opens. All
four people are in the group chat to coordinate plans.
This feature also allows users to message individuals with a
matched pair privately if they want to transition to a
(26:53):
one on one conversation. I like you, but I'm not
crazy about that other person who you brought into our
group chat. Users can maintain multiple pairings with different friends
while keeping their individual dating profile separate. They tried this
in Europe and Latin America and apparently it's very popular,
(27:17):
particularly with young users. It's meant to help relieve dating
stress for younger users, says Tender's head of product marketing,
and Tender continues to till new soil. You know, where
Tender's based. Don't you anybody know where Tender's based? Isn't
(27:38):
it San Francisco, West Hollywood?
Speaker 8 (27:40):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (27:40):
No way? Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I was surprised by that also, I figured, yeah, somewhere
in Silicon Valley, San Francisco. Nearly ninety percent of the
people who tried double Date were under twenty nine, So
they're trying to expand Tender to a younger generation. And
it appears that this group makes it safer for women
(28:02):
that women. They say, based on their information and their data,
they're three times more likely to show interest impaired profiles
compared to individuals just using it one on one.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
So, uh, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (28:20):
I remember when Okaycupid was just starting and match dot com,
and now you have so many you have invite only
things that Aryah and all these other When I'm asking
people how did you meet, they always serve up some
new online app that I've never heard of. All of
you who are as single, it's a great thing to
(28:43):
be able to connect with people virtually all of these
different apps, But man, it's also just a thicket of trouble.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
It's just a lot to go through, you know, Plus
when you put your profile up there. If you don't
get any bites early on, it's a blow to your ego.
Take it from me, I know, thank God that part
of my life is over.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
But on the other hand, when you are.
Speaker 3 (29:12):
On those apps and you connect with somebody who you like,
it's a pretty great uh, it's a great day. So
with that, I wish you a happy Fourth of July.
I thank everybody on this show. We're full this station
and this building of great patriots, and it's great to
(29:32):
be around you all on this Fourth of July week.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
John returns next week.
Speaker 3 (29:36):
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