October 30, 2025 • 31 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (10/30) - CA State Assemblyman Carl DeMaio comes on the show to talk about Democrats who are going to be in line for congressional seats & benefit from Prop 50 passing. Dissecting Gov. Newsom's interview with ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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on the iHeartRadio app. A Prop fifty, which gets rid
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of the Independent Commission to draw congressional districts in the state.
Prop fifty is witting in the polls. If that holds.
Among the beneficiaries will be some of the legislators who
voted for this, who pushed it through because some of
them are turned out and part of Prop fifty has
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created cushy landing spots for them.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
They're going to become congressman.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
They're going to have safe seats already waiting for them.
And to crawl demile the assemblement from San Diego. The
Republican is coming on here about this, Carl, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We're working hard, you know, we're collecting signatures on the
California Voter ID initiative, and we're trying to do a
Hail Mary pass here.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
John.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We still believe that it is possible to defeat Prop fifty,
but the professional political consultants in the Republican Party have
once again betrayed us and failed us with a crappy
campaign with bad ads, with less than effective campaigning approaches.
And so it's up to us neighbors telling neighbors, friends
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telling friends, spreading the word. Viral marketing can move the needle,
particularly in a low turnout election like a special election.
And there are millions of Republicans in the state that
have not yet voted, and so I'm encouraging them to
return their ballots, walk them into the polls. Do not
wait till election day. I need to go out to
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the polls today through Monday night. Get that vote in
before election day so that you can secure your vote,
make sure it's counted. But we're working really hard in
these final days.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, the Republican Party doesn't seem interested in fighting this battle.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What they've done is they've drifted off of money that
was made available to them, and I am furious about it,
and I'm sick and tired of us. Basically, rewarding failure.
And my message to the big donors is this, you
would not tolerate being defrauded in your business world. Why
in the hell are you allowing these political consultants in
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California Republican Party to defraud you time and time again,
and so stop giving them money and demand accountability. I
think that grassroots will be the future of California's comeback,
and that's why that's what we're focusing on, and we're
proud at Reform California. We don't hire consultants, we don't
hire fundraisers. Every single penny that we raise goes right
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into the fight. And we have an army of seventeen
thousand volunteers right now in the streets campaigning against Prop
fifty while they're collecting signatures on the California Voter ID initiative.
And after Tuesday, we're going to have a get together
and we're going to decide whether we are going to
pursue the companion measure to California Voter ID, which would
ban any legislator who voted for Prop fifty from serving
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an office, because that is a penalty currently applied to
the Redistricting Commission. So my view is, if it was
already applied to the Redistricting Commission, why should we not
apply it to the politicians. If they're going to get
involved with redistricting, then they should have the same sort
of time out cooling off period that the redistricting Commission
would be required to have.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So what we have here now, some of the people,
some of the representatives in the legislature who pushed this
redistricting Prop fifty idea, they had landing spots waiting for them.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
If this goes through.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They have seats carved out, and so as they get
turned out in the next election cycle, they'll have a
place to run and it's a safe seat they're going
to win almost automatically.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Correct. And remember, it wasn't just that it happened. They
explicitly get a quid pro quoll deal behind closed doors.
They traded their votes. If the worst kept secret in
Sacramento that people like Robert Reeves and Mike Laguier and
Jazzminte fain, they traded their support for this initiative in
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exchange for a custom drawnze seat for Congress for them.
And this is why we got rid of jerry mandering
in the first place. This is what voters correctly were
formed in twenty ten when they created their districting Commission
and had citizens take the power. But now if this
pass is the politicians have gable to manipulate the lines,
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which means that we will not be able to hold
them accountable for their fail on issues that do impact us,
like the high cost of living, homelessness, crime, job losses,
bad schools. Politicians will laugh at us, whether you're a
Democrat or an Independent or a Republican. I have to
laugh at the at the Democrats voting for Prop. Fifty.
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What you're literally doing is eliminating your voice as much
as you're eliminating the Republican voices, because these Democrats will say,
once I get past the primary, you're stuck with me.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You know you've got to vote for me because it's
a Democrat seat now and I'm going to win.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
People's brains have shorted out over their obsession with Donald Trump. Absolutely,
they they're no longer they no longer are thinking. They're
just to overcome with rage and emotion because of Trump.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And this is where the politicians are able to manipulate
people to do something that's actually not in their interest.
They play the shiny object game. They use to see,
they use emotion, they lie, and that's what we've seen.
A Prop fifty has been propelled by lives and hatred
and emotion and manipulation. And you know what's going to
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happen is going to be a grave damaging blow to
our democracy. The same people who say, well, I don't
like Trump because he's a threat to democracy, take a
look at what you're doing with Prop fifty. If you
vote yes, you're silencing millions of voters. You're shaying that
they don't deserve they don't deserve a seat at the table,
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they don't deserve a voice. And worse, you're giving a
pass to politicians who hurt you. I mean, anyone who
lives in the palisades. You should be voting no on
Prop fifty because these politicians, they don't need to rebuild
your homes now. They literally can, you know, continue to
drag things out knowing that no one can actually challenge
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them for their seat because they can continue to just
manipulate the lines of these districts.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right, So you've got to propose ballot initiative. It
would keep them from holding these offices for five to
ten years.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Correct by that one way. I'm not being vindictive. I'm
not being petty. This is already in the state constitution
and it applies to the redistricting commissioners. And so my
view is, okay, fine, if the politicians want to get
in the game of redistricting, what's good for the goose
is good for the gander. Politicians should not get a
double standard. They shouldn't get special exemptions. So if it
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was applied to the redistricting commission, it should be applied
to these legislators who just put together these maps and
put them on the ballot. They're engaging in redistricting, so
they should have the same sort of cooling off period
that the redistricting commissioners have to abide by.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
All Right, Carl good talking with you, Carl Demail, thank
you the Assemblyman. We will come back. We got a
lot to play you from a newsom's interview with Jonathan
Carl from ABC News.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
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Speaker 2 (07:56):
All right, let's get down of this this newsome appearance
with ABC News reporter Jonathan Carl. I guess they ran
short clips on their newscasts on TV, and then they
had a twenty six minute edited excerpt online which Eric
and I spent some time watching this morning, and just
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before I play the first one. If I was going
to interview Gavin Newsom, if you ever get a chance
to interview Gavin Newsom, here's some things maybe you could
ask about. We've got the most homeless in the country.
We have the highest gas tax, the highest sales tax,
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the highest income tax. Our inflation is twenty percent higher
than the rest of the country, the highest welfare rates,
the highest number of illegal aliens, the most people on Medicaid,
the highest poverty rate. We have the highest home cost,
the highest rent cost, the highest cost of living, highest
electricity prices, worst business climate, one of the worst school performances.
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We have lost seventeen billion dollars on high speed rail,
thirty billion dollars on unemployment fraud, twenty four billion dollars
on homeless money that disappeared. I ripped off eighteen off
the top of my head, just scribbled it down during
a commercial break. None of that was covered in the
Jonathan Carl interview. Everything was about Trump. Trump has nothing
to do with all these issues that are causing us
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so much pain has made living here such a struggle.
All of them are caused by local and state government
Fast and Newsome. For people in LA. Most of this
is Newsome and Jerry Brown. None of this has to
do anything to do with Trump. Got him, especially my
head against the wall. Trump Trump, Tump, tump tump, and
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then people's minds go haywire, and now they're given away.
They're giving away the rights to the redistricting process. You're
giving away your own rights. You're such a dumb ass
to have an independent redistricting paddle.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And listen.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, Jonathan Carl might as well have tried to
open Gavin Newsom's end and stuck his head inside, or
maybe he should have crawled inside entirely because none of
this stuff was covered because he's there, because Newsom's presenting
himself as the alternative. He's he's the Democratic leader. So
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let me play you the first cut here new some
get this one. This is rich. Newsom is now claiming
that he was trying to wake up the Biden administration
about the border. Play cut number five.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Say that failures hulay the ground with of course, I
mean the border.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
Yes and no, Well, the border was a mistake. Look,
I was very critical. As you know, I had the
biggest border stay of Western hemisphere, California, put a bit
in almost a billion four into migrant facilities in three
major counties in California, put a lid on things. As
I was working with the bid administration, said you need
to wake up to what's going on. It was a
point of real friction, not just with me, but all
democratic governors, not just border state governors. But as you
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saw folks in Colorado, in Illinois and New York and elsewhere,
we're expressing that frustration. I think we took the wrong
lessons from the midterm where we overperformed, and that was
a tactical mistake, but it's also wrong period.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
On policy, he laid out the welcome met for legal aliens.
He gave them cradle to grave healthcare. He gave away
free healthcare for every illegal alien, whether you were a
little baby or one hundred and five years old, every
illegal alien gets taxpayer paid healthcare in California. And he
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said he was warning Biden at this open border thing
was out of control.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, why do you think they can over the border.
You make it to.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
California, you get free healthcare for the rest of your life,
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And your whole family.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Jonathan Carl from ABC News didn't know it, didn't think
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's atrocious.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He's actually acting like he was the hero hero trying
to warn Joe Biden about the border.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Newsom did everything he could to make this a magnet
for illegal alience.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Let's play you this clip asking Newsom about the recall
of the San Francisco DA Remember that guy, what was
his name? I forgot his name? Chessa Boudin, Chessa Boudin.
And now Newsom said, uh supported the recall.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
San Francisco had become a symbol of the failure of
liberal democratic policy.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Because it was exploited and colored in. It's part of
the California derangement syndrome.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Is there anything to that?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I know?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Wait, wait, stopped right there. It's the California derangement syndrome.
See how what he's doing. He's copying the Trump derangement
syndrome that a lot of his people have, which he
knows exists. And that's why he's pushing Prop fifty by
using that tactic.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
In the ads. California to arrangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
In other words, San Francisco wasn't this disgusting hell hole.
I guess people in San Franciscisco were imagining it. I
listened to the mayor of San Francisco today. He did
an interview on CNBC, Daniel Lourie. He's a businessman, and
he was describing how the tax base had cratered because
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people didn't feel safe. That the downtown tax base was
normally sixty percent of revenue and it dropped to forty
percent because all the businesses closed because nobody would shop
there anymore, nobody would work there anymore. The mayor, the
mayor of San Francisco, was on CNBC explaining all this
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what he's doing to end all the homelessness in the
street and push out the crime and get businesses and
tourists and residents back. Meantime, Newsom is claiming that if
you have that criticism of San Francisco, you have California
arrangement syndrome. Well, I guess Daniel Lurie, the San Francisco mayor,
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has that too. Of course, I saw this with my
own eyes because my son went up to the school
in San Francisco for a couple of years. So I
saw things I'd never seen before in any city all
my life.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Play somewhere of.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
This anything to that. I know it's been exploited. I know,
you talk about California's arrangement system, Fox News constant, you know,
the every time there's a smashing gratus.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
But but I mean, the voters in this city recalled
a day because which I supported, because because the feeling
was that we had policies, there were policies in the
city that were that were soft time crime.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
That's right, that's correct, and we supported that recall. We've
got a great DA now, so.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
I'm asking what lessons you can lessons.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
Learn is you've got to own your responsibilities in real time.
And that's exactly what folks here reconciled and had to
reconcile after those recalls. Wasn't just the DA, it was
the school board as well, where they went off the
deep end and they started changing the names of Dianne
Feinstein elementary or middle school, wanted to get rid of
Washington and I mean it was absurd, takes the nonsense.
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I mean, it was actually like way off the debit.
But they got recalled and there was accountability stop.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So that's he's incredibly slick. He said nothing about chessabod
is San Francisco, DA. He said nothing about the recall
of school board members. He just called that kind of
behavior where Bodein was criticized for the soft done crime
laws California arrangement syndrome. So on one side of his mouth,
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that kind of criticism is California derangement syndrome. Out of
the other side of his mouth, he supported the recall
of Chess of Bodine because of that criticism. Same thing
with the school board. He never criticized anything that the
school board did when they were changing the name of schools. Well,
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he's so pathful, and Jonathan Carl's going up, up, up,
But all right, we'll do more on this we come back.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
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Speaker 2 (16:39):
On every day from one and to four the after
four o'clock John Cobelt's show on Demand. Now, we played
you some Gavin Newsom clips he was on with with
Jonathan Carl and ABC News reporter. There's short segments on TV,
there's a long segment online. But I'm telling you these
network reporters are just awful. They're a bombinas. I read
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you like eighteen major California failures here in this state
the Gavin Newsom is connected to and there's no questions
about that in the interview, but.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's all about Trump.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
He does ask about the recall the San Francisco DA
a few years ago Chessa Boudin, because some of these
questions are why the Democrats are looked on so poorly
by much of the public. And I'll play you this
clip again. Newsom comes right out and said he supported
the recall of Chesaboudine.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
If you could play cut six again.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
San Francisco had become a symbol of the failure of
liberal democratic policy.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Because it was exploited and colored in. It's part of
the Californian derangement syndrome.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
But is there anything to that. I know it's been exploited.
I know you talk about California's arrangement system Fox News constant,
you know the very time there's a smashing gratus.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
But I mean the orders in this city recalled a DA. Yeah,
because I supported because.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
The feeling was that we had policies, there were policies
in the city that were that were soft on crime.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
That's right, that's correct, and we supported that recall. We've
got a great DA.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now stop stop stop, we supported that recall. Right, oh
that's right, that's correct. Yeah, yeah, we supported the recall.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He's lying.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I went to GROC artificial intelligence, which can scan a
million news stories very quickly and answer your question. My
question was, did Gavin Newsom support the recall of CHESSA Bodeine.
The answer no, Gavin Newsom did not support the recall
of Chess of Bodine. As California's governor and a fellow Democrat,
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Newsom remained neutral on the twenty twenty recall effort against
San Francisco's progressive district attorney, even though he had appointed
Boudin in twenty nineteen and shared similar reform oriented views
on criminal justice. There is nothing that CHESSA Boudin did
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that Gavin Newsom didn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But because Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Carl had his head up Newsom's rear end, he didn't
have the presence of mind to say, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You appointed Boudin, you gave him a start.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
And.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What is it he did that you disagreed with?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You supported the recall of chessa Boudin total lie, and
Carl doesn't Jonathan. Carl doesn't know any better to call
it out, just accepts it. I knew instinctively. He never
called for Boudin's recall. He agrees with Boudin. He gave
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birth to Boudin. They agree, What is it they disagree on?
Newsom signed a lot of the bills that turned San
Francisco Justice into California Justice.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Man. He is a latent, pathological liar.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And hey, ABC News, right, big reporter, wrote a big
political book the past year. Knows nothing, knows nothing what's
going on in this state. Uh okay, here's a question.
This is a Trump thing and it's on. Oh God,
they're falling for Trump's third term. It's a joke, guys.
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Trump knows he's not going to run for a third term.
He can't. It's a joke. It's the troll play cut
number nine.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
These guys says sort of a maniacal sense of purpose
and desire for power.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
They want.
Speaker 9 (20:49):
This is a revolution. Ian Brenner said in his bog
the other day. Ian's not prone to hyperbole. It's a
revolution that's going on in this country, and I think
you have to start using those words.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
He's attacking every single institution of independent thinking, and he's
succeeding because we're still playing by the old set of rules.
And so my party needs to focus first and foremost
on recognizing that, and then we'll reconcile be more culturally normal,
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more reform oriented, talk about service and patriotism, and will continue.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
To build on the legacy. I would argue of our
former president who I think was one of the most
successful presidents in the last century.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And that is Joe Biden.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
And I will defend that to my grave, in terms
of the Chips and Science Act, the infrastructure built, the
work he did on the IRA, the fact that he
had a worker centered industrial policy, and the fact that
those are the right policies for this country.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
They're all getting on done right, I mean a lot.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Of them, and well many aspects are being celebrated by
the Trump administration, as is.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
One of the most successful presidents of the last century.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He'll go to his grave.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Clearly, insane, clearly, and he insisted that Joe Biden showed
no signs of decline. It was just I guess, why
why did he drop out? Why was he losing so
badly in the polls when he dropped out.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
He insisted the night of the debate that Biden uh
did fine. Now he's one of the greatest presidents.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Wow, what was it? The uh? The thing is?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
In another answer, he said he was criticizing Biden and
and and the.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Biden White House heavily for for leaving the border wide open.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, that was one of the main reasons. And then
there was the nine percent inflation. That was the other
main reason. How was that great? That have nine percent inflation?
And let h you know, ten million illegal aliens in
boh I thought the border was to open as well.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And I was behind the chessboarding recal. You're a liar.
You're a liar. You're a liar. Joe Biden is one
of them. Go ahead campaign on that. That's great.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
When when you do the debate with the other candidates,
in fact, you and Kamala Harris can can compete. Who's
gonna who thinks Joe Biden was who has more praise
for Joe Biden? Who's going to be the greatest Joe
Biden champion? Speaking to Kamala, I'll go playing more news
some stuff next hour. But before I forget this. Kamala
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was getting interviewed on Australian television and unlike kiss Ass,
head up the ass reporters like Jonathan carl Uh the
Australian reporter Sarah Ferguson for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, when
Kamala Harris on her book tour dodged a question about Biden. Uh,
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Sarah Ferguson very abruptly redirected, Kamla, you're gonna hear this,
this is this is actually funny. Uh. And then we
have a clip of Kamala's staff wanting to give up
on the interview.
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Speaker 1 (24:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is this is funny. Kamala Harris book tour. She's
now in Australia. And unlike these feeble bootlooking fools in
the American media who their only talent is to give
people like Kamala and Gavin News tongue baths. Here's a
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real reporter, Sarah Ferguson from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. She
asks a basic question. Coabo tries to filibuster, and let's
just say, Sarah Ferguson redirects her cut fourteen.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Fortunately Joe Biden then to put it on him. Wasn't
his refusal to recognize his own trailties the reason that
you faced a nearly impossible task.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I ran against Donald Trump for president, and Donald Trump
ran on a platform that was, in large part, I believe,
misrepresenting his intentions to the American people. I do believe
that there are a fair number of people that voted
for Donald Trump who believed him when he told them
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that his first priority on day one is going to
be to bring down prices, and he didn't. And you
combine that misrepresentation of an tangen with also what was
that play in terms of massive amounts of misinteristine for me.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Now forgive me, I wanted a calendar in terms.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Of yes, the clerk, I want to interrupt you because
that is a world class pivot. But it is not
the question that I asked you, which is about Joe
Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that
did to you. The question is about Joe Biden. Are
you still reluctant to criticize the former.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
President in what regard?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Please?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Well, just in terms of that question, So you went.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Exactly would you like to ask be more specific if
you don't mind.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his
own frailties in that position that put you in the
position that made it almost impossible to win that race.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
He was not frail as president of the United States, but.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
He had frailties.
Speaker 11 (26:50):
We all saw the debate.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to
be president of the United States, and I have never
doubted that he had the capacity to be president of
the United States.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
If you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Whether he had the ability to endure what a race
or president of the United States would require in that
political environment in twenty twenty four. As I've said in
the book, I had concerns.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question? No, we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
Thord answered that question, I do not believe that.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how there could not be a problem long term with
someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying he's
acuity wasn't present.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That in the book, and I also mentioned the context
in which that debate occurred. And you'll probably remember how
I talked about that in terms of what his travel
schedule had been, that what he had been enduring, in
terms of the timing of that debate. I can talk
about it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away
from she starts showing, so I do answer the question people.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Had, do you believe that? Do you believe that? I
love I love this? Reporter Sarah Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Now Ferguson kept at it, and what you'll hear hear
is Kamala Harris. Eventually her handler is telling Ferguson, well,
that's going to be the last question.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
I want to come back to the book and the
purpose of the book. So the last question, Yeah, well
that's almost a first, not an absolute first, but to
have a member of staff of the former vice president
of the United States actually speak up during the interview
to say that we were going too long. I didn't
expect that, But coming back to the interview itself, it
seems to me, and it's very heart there is a
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reluctance on the part of Kamala Harris to actually spell
out and talk about the issues that Joe Biden had
as president. Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to
recognize his own frailties in that position that put you
in the position that made it almost impossible to win
that race.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Not frail as president of the United States.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
But he had frailties.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
We all saw the debate.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question. Now we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
Thoughts answered that question. I do not believe.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how there could not be a problem long term with
someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying his acuity,
it's in the book, but it seems to me she
doesn't want to say it on camera.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
I asked her that she denied it, but.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I think there is still a reluctance there to criticize
Joe Biden, which makes her current pivot a really difficult one.
Because she's Joe Biden's vice president. It seems she's still
not prepared to completely condemn him. But she's got to
be a character in her own right without Joe Biden attached,
in order to have a chance to run again. So
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that before I came in, that was the heart of
the interview, and it turned out to be the heart
of the interview.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, that was the whole interview there.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
She called out that staffer. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, And here in America, reporters get intimidated by those staffers.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
I'd never be intimidated. I said, no, no, no, no, You're not.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
The one that's gonna tell me when I'm gonna be
done and ask the last question.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'm sorry if Kama wants to go, let her on
camera say I don't want to answer these questions anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But enough with these staffords. What are you afraid of?
This is so good. That was a world class pivot.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
She is great and there's what I'm saying. Compare that
to this this slop that Jonathan carl is serving with
Gavin Newsom. Oh yeah yeah, We'll got more of him
to play too. Later on next hour, when we returned
though yesterday, Alex Stone came on to tell us how
the air traffic controllers are growing going hungry because of
the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Uh, well, a lot of people are going to be
going hungry.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
There's forty two million people who get food benefits, food stamps,
snap benefits, they're called. We are going to talk to
Alex about what's happening next because the money's running out
for that program. Deborah Mark live in the KFI twenty
four our newsroom.
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on the iHeartRadio app. A Prop fifty, which gets rid
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of the Independent Commission to draw congressional districts in the state.
Prop fifty is witting in the polls. If that holds.
Among the beneficiaries will be some of the legislators who
voted for this, who pushed it through because some of
them are turned out and part of Prop fifty has
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created cushy landing spots for them.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
They're going to become congressman.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
They're going to have safe seats already waiting for them.
And to crawl demile the assemblement from San Diego. The
Republican is coming on here about this, Carl, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
We're working hard, you know, we're collecting signatures on the
California Voter ID initiative, and we're trying to do a
Hail Mary pass here.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
John.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
We still believe that it is possible to defeat Prop fifty,
but the professional political consultants in the Republican Party have
once again betrayed us and failed us with a crappy
campaign with bad ads, with less than effective campaigning approaches.
And so it's up to us neighbors telling neighbors, friends
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telling friends, spreading the word. Viral marketing can move the needle,
particularly in a low turnout election like a special election.
And there are millions of Republicans in the state that
have not yet voted, and so I'm encouraging them to
return their ballots, walk them into the polls. Do not
wait till election day. I need to go out to
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the polls today through Monday night. Get that vote in
before election day so that you can secure your vote,
make sure it's counted. But we're working really hard in
these final days.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, the Republican Party doesn't seem interested in fighting this battle.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
No.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
What they've done is they've drifted off of money that
was made available to them, and I am furious about it,
and I'm sick and tired of us. Basically, rewarding failure.
And my message to the big donors is this, you
would not tolerate being defrauded in your business world. Why
in the hell are you allowing these political consultants in
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California Republican Party to defraud you time and time again,
and so stop giving them money and demand accountability. I
think that grassroots will be the future of California's comeback,
and that's why that's what we're focusing on, and we're
proud at Reform California. We don't hire consultants, we don't
hire fundraisers. Every single penny that we raise goes right
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into the fight. And we have an army of seventeen
thousand volunteers right now in the streets campaigning against Prop
fifty while they're collecting signatures on the California Voter ID initiative.
And after Tuesday, we're going to have a get together
and we're going to decide whether we are going to
pursue the companion measure to California Voter ID, which would
ban any legislator who voted for Prop fifty from serving
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an office, because that is a penalty currently applied to
the Redistricting Commission. So my view is, if it was
already applied to the Redistricting Commission, why should we not
apply it to the politicians. If they're going to get
involved with redistricting, then they should have the same sort
of time out cooling off period that the redistricting Commission
would be required to have.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
So what we have here now, some of the people,
some of the representatives in the legislature who pushed this
redistricting Prop fifty idea, they had landing spots waiting for them.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
If this goes through.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
They have seats carved out, and so as they get
turned out in the next election cycle, they'll have a
place to run and it's a safe seat they're going
to win almost automatically.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Correct. And remember, it wasn't just that it happened. They
explicitly get a quid pro quoll deal behind closed doors.
They traded their votes. If the worst kept secret in
Sacramento that people like Robert Reeves and Mike Laguier and
Jazzminte fain, they traded their support for this initiative in
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exchange for a custom drawnze seat for Congress for them.
And this is why we got rid of jerry mandering
in the first place. This is what voters correctly were
formed in twenty ten when they created their districting Commission
and had citizens take the power. But now if this
pass is the politicians have gable to manipulate the lines,
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which means that we will not be able to hold
them accountable for their fail on issues that do impact us,
like the high cost of living, homelessness, crime, job losses,
bad schools. Politicians will laugh at us, whether you're a
Democrat or an Independent or a Republican. I have to
laugh at the at the Democrats voting for Prop. Fifty.
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What you're literally doing is eliminating your voice as much
as you're eliminating the Republican voices, because these Democrats will say,
once I get past the primary, you're stuck with me.
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
You know you've got to vote for me because it's
a Democrat seat now and I'm going to win.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
People's brains have shorted out over their obsession with Donald Trump. Absolutely,
they they're no longer they no longer are thinking. They're
just to overcome with rage and emotion because of Trump.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And this is where the politicians are able to manipulate
people to do something that's actually not in their interest.
They play the shiny object game. They use to see,
they use emotion, they lie, and that's what we've seen.
A Prop fifty has been propelled by lives and hatred
and emotion and manipulation. And you know what's going to
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happen is going to be a grave damaging blow to
our democracy. The same people who say, well, I don't
like Trump because he's a threat to democracy, take a
look at what you're doing with Prop fifty. If you
vote yes, you're silencing millions of voters. You're shaying that
they don't deserve they don't deserve a seat at the table,
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they don't deserve a voice. And worse, you're giving a
pass to politicians who hurt you. I mean, anyone who
lives in the palisades. You should be voting no on
Prop fifty because these politicians, they don't need to rebuild
your homes now. They literally can, you know, continue to
drag things out knowing that no one can actually challenge
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them for their seat because they can continue to just
manipulate the lines of these districts.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
All right, So you've got to propose ballot initiative. It
would keep them from holding these offices for five to
ten years.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Correct by that one way. I'm not being vindictive. I'm
not being petty. This is already in the state constitution
and it applies to the redistricting commissioners. And so my
view is, okay, fine, if the politicians want to get
in the game of redistricting, what's good for the goose
is good for the gander. Politicians should not get a
double standard. They shouldn't get special exemptions. So if it
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was applied to the redistricting commission, it should be applied
to these legislators who just put together these maps and
put them on the ballot. They're engaging in redistricting, so
they should have the same sort of cooling off period
that the redistricting commissioners have to abide by.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
All Right, Carl good talking with you, Carl Demail, thank
you the Assemblyman. We will come back. We got a
lot to play you from a newsom's interview with Jonathan
Carl from ABC News.
Speaker 7 (07:50):
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Speaker 2 (07:56):
All right, let's get down of this this newsome appearance
with ABC News reporter Jonathan Carl. I guess they ran
short clips on their newscasts on TV, and then they
had a twenty six minute edited excerpt online which Eric
and I spent some time watching this morning, and just
(08:19):
before I play the first one. If I was going
to interview Gavin Newsom, if you ever get a chance
to interview Gavin Newsom, here's some things maybe you could
ask about. We've got the most homeless in the country.
We have the highest gas tax, the highest sales tax,
(08:40):
the highest income tax. Our inflation is twenty percent higher
than the rest of the country, the highest welfare rates,
the highest number of illegal aliens, the most people on Medicaid,
the highest poverty rate. We have the highest home cost,
the highest rent cost, the highest cost of living, highest
electricity prices, worst business climate, one of the worst school performances.
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We have lost seventeen billion dollars on high speed rail,
thirty billion dollars on unemployment fraud, twenty four billion dollars
on homeless money that disappeared. I ripped off eighteen off
the top of my head, just scribbled it down during
a commercial break. None of that was covered in the
Jonathan Carl interview. Everything was about Trump. Trump has nothing
to do with all these issues that are causing us
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so much pain has made living here such a struggle.
All of them are caused by local and state government
Fast and Newsome. For people in LA. Most of this
is Newsome and Jerry Brown. None of this has to
do anything to do with Trump. Got him, especially my
head against the wall. Trump Trump, Tump, tump tump, and
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then people's minds go haywire, and now they're given away.
They're giving away the rights to the redistricting process. You're
giving away your own rights. You're such a dumb ass
to have an independent redistricting paddle.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And listen.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, Jonathan Carl might as well have tried to
open Gavin Newsom's end and stuck his head inside, or
maybe he should have crawled inside entirely because none of
this stuff was covered because he's there, because Newsom's presenting
himself as the alternative. He's he's the Democratic leader. So
(10:31):
let me play you the first cut here new some
get this one. This is rich. Newsom is now claiming
that he was trying to wake up the Biden administration
about the border. Play cut number five.
Speaker 8 (10:48):
Say that failures hulay the ground with of course, I
mean the border.
Speaker 9 (10:53):
Yes and no, Well, the border was a mistake. Look,
I was very critical. As you know, I had the
biggest border stay of Western hemisphere, California, put a bit
in almost a billion four into migrant facilities in three
major counties in California, put a lid on things. As
I was working with the bid administration, said you need
to wake up to what's going on. It was a
point of real friction, not just with me, but all
democratic governors, not just border state governors. But as you
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saw folks in Colorado, in Illinois and New York and elsewhere,
we're expressing that frustration. I think we took the wrong
lessons from the midterm where we overperformed, and that was
a tactical mistake, but it's also wrong period.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
On policy, he laid out the welcome met for legal aliens.
He gave them cradle to grave healthcare. He gave away
free healthcare for every illegal alien, whether you were a
little baby or one hundred and five years old, every
illegal alien gets taxpayer paid healthcare in California. And he
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said he was warning Biden at this open border thing
was out of control.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Well, why do you think they can over the border.
You make it to.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
California, you get free healthcare for the rest of your life,
for yourself.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
And your whole family.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Jonathan Carl from ABC News didn't know it, didn't think
about it.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
That's atrocious.
Speaker 2 (12:16):
He's actually acting like he was the hero hero trying
to warn Joe Biden about the border.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Newsom did everything he could to make this a magnet
for illegal alience.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Let's play you this clip asking Newsom about the recall
of the San Francisco DA Remember that guy, what was
his name? I forgot his name? Chessa Boudin, Chessa Boudin.
And now Newsom said, uh supported the recall.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Listen to this.
Speaker 8 (12:51):
San Francisco had become a symbol of the failure of
liberal democratic policy.
Speaker 9 (12:56):
Because it was exploited and colored in. It's part of
the California derangement syndrome.
Speaker 8 (13:00):
Is there anything to that?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
I know?
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Wait, wait, stopped right there. It's the California derangement syndrome.
See how what he's doing. He's copying the Trump derangement
syndrome that a lot of his people have, which he
knows exists. And that's why he's pushing Prop fifty by
using that tactic.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
In the ads. California to arrangement syndrome.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
In other words, San Francisco wasn't this disgusting hell hole.
I guess people in San Franciscisco were imagining it. I
listened to the mayor of San Francisco today. He did
an interview on CNBC, Daniel Lourie. He's a businessman, and
he was describing how the tax base had cratered because
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people didn't feel safe. That the downtown tax base was
normally sixty percent of revenue and it dropped to forty
percent because all the businesses closed because nobody would shop
there anymore, nobody would work there anymore. The mayor, the
mayor of San Francisco, was on CNBC explaining all this
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what he's doing to end all the homelessness in the
street and push out the crime and get businesses and
tourists and residents back. Meantime, Newsom is claiming that if
you have that criticism of San Francisco, you have California
arrangement syndrome. Well, I guess Daniel Lurie, the San Francisco mayor,
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has that too. Of course, I saw this with my
own eyes because my son went up to the school
in San Francisco for a couple of years. So I
saw things I'd never seen before in any city all
my life.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Play somewhere of.
Speaker 8 (14:40):
This anything to that. I know it's been exploited. I know,
you talk about California's arrangement system, Fox News constant, you know,
the every time there's a smashing gratus.
Speaker 10 (14:50):
But but I mean, the voters in this city recalled
a day because which I supported, because because the feeling
was that we had policies, there were policies in the
city that were that were soft time crime.
Speaker 9 (15:00):
That's right, that's correct, and we supported that recall. We've
got a great DA now, so.
Speaker 8 (15:08):
I'm asking what lessons you can lessons.
Speaker 9 (15:10):
Learn is you've got to own your responsibilities in real time.
And that's exactly what folks here reconciled and had to
reconcile after those recalls. Wasn't just the DA, it was
the school board as well, where they went off the
deep end and they started changing the names of Dianne
Feinstein elementary or middle school, wanted to get rid of
Washington and I mean it was absurd, takes the nonsense.
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I mean, it was actually like way off the debit.
But they got recalled and there was accountability stop.
Speaker 2 (15:40):
So that's he's incredibly slick. He said nothing about chessabod
is San Francisco, DA. He said nothing about the recall
of school board members. He just called that kind of
behavior where Bodein was criticized for the soft done crime
laws California arrangement syndrome. So on one side of his mouth,
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that kind of criticism is California derangement syndrome. Out of
the other side of his mouth, he supported the recall
of Chess of Bodine because of that criticism. Same thing
with the school board. He never criticized anything that the
school board did when they were changing the name of schools. Well,
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he's so pathful, and Jonathan Carl's going up, up, up,
But all right, we'll do more on this we come back.
Speaker 7 (16:33):
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Speaker 2 (16:39):
On every day from one and to four the after
four o'clock John Cobelt's show on Demand. Now, we played
you some Gavin Newsom clips he was on with with
Jonathan Carl and ABC News reporter. There's short segments on TV,
there's a long segment online. But I'm telling you these
network reporters are just awful. They're a bombinas. I read
(17:01):
you like eighteen major California failures here in this state
the Gavin Newsom is connected to and there's no questions
about that in the interview, but.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
It's all about Trump.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
He does ask about the recall the San Francisco DA
a few years ago Chessa Boudin, because some of these
questions are why the Democrats are looked on so poorly
by much of the public. And I'll play you this
clip again. Newsom comes right out and said he supported
the recall of Chesaboudine.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
If you could play cut six again.
Speaker 8 (17:39):
San Francisco had become a symbol of the failure of
liberal democratic policy.
Speaker 9 (17:44):
Because it was exploited and colored in. It's part of
the Californian derangement syndrome.
Speaker 8 (17:48):
But is there anything to that. I know it's been exploited.
I know you talk about California's arrangement system Fox News constant,
you know the very time there's a smashing gratus.
Speaker 10 (17:58):
But I mean the orders in this city recalled a DA. Yeah,
because I supported because.
Speaker 8 (18:04):
The feeling was that we had policies, there were policies
in the city that were that were soft on crime.
Speaker 9 (18:08):
That's right, that's correct, and we supported that recall. We've
got a great DA.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Now stop stop stop, we supported that recall. Right, oh
that's right, that's correct. Yeah, yeah, we supported the recall.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
He's lying.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
I went to GROC artificial intelligence, which can scan a
million news stories very quickly and answer your question. My
question was, did Gavin Newsom support the recall of CHESSA Bodeine.
The answer no, Gavin Newsom did not support the recall
of Chess of Bodine. As California's governor and a fellow Democrat,
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Newsom remained neutral on the twenty twenty recall effort against
San Francisco's progressive district attorney, even though he had appointed
Boudin in twenty nineteen and shared similar reform oriented views
on criminal justice. There is nothing that CHESSA Boudin did
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that Gavin Newsom didn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
But because Jonathan.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Carl had his head up Newsom's rear end, he didn't
have the presence of mind to say, wait a second.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
You appointed Boudin, you gave him a start.
Speaker 6 (19:22):
And.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
What is it he did that you disagreed with?
Speaker 2 (19:30):
You supported the recall of chessa Boudin total lie, and
Carl doesn't Jonathan. Carl doesn't know any better to call
it out, just accepts it. I knew instinctively. He never
called for Boudin's recall. He agrees with Boudin. He gave
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birth to Boudin. They agree, What is it they disagree on?
Newsom signed a lot of the bills that turned San
Francisco Justice into California Justice.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Man. He is a latent, pathological liar.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
And hey, ABC News, right, big reporter, wrote a big
political book the past year. Knows nothing, knows nothing what's
going on in this state. Uh okay, here's a question.
This is a Trump thing and it's on. Oh God,
they're falling for Trump's third term. It's a joke, guys.
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Trump knows he's not going to run for a third term.
He can't. It's a joke. It's the troll play cut
number nine.
Speaker 9 (20:44):
These guys says sort of a maniacal sense of purpose
and desire for power.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
They want.
Speaker 9 (20:49):
This is a revolution. Ian Brenner said in his bog
the other day. Ian's not prone to hyperbole. It's a
revolution that's going on in this country, and I think
you have to start using those words.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
He's attacking every single institution of independent thinking, and he's
succeeding because we're still playing by the old set of rules.
And so my party needs to focus first and foremost
on recognizing that, and then we'll reconcile be more culturally normal,
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more reform oriented, talk about service and patriotism, and will continue.
Speaker 9 (21:24):
To build on the legacy. I would argue of our
former president who I think was one of the most
successful presidents in the last century.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
And that is Joe Biden.
Speaker 9 (21:34):
And I will defend that to my grave, in terms
of the Chips and Science Act, the infrastructure built, the
work he did on the IRA, the fact that he
had a worker centered industrial policy, and the fact that
those are the right policies for this country.
Speaker 8 (21:47):
They're all getting on done right, I mean a lot.
Speaker 9 (21:49):
Of them, and well many aspects are being celebrated by
the Trump administration, as is.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
One of the most successful presidents of the last century.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
He'll go to his grave.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Clearly, insane, clearly, and he insisted that Joe Biden showed
no signs of decline. It was just I guess, why
why did he drop out? Why was he losing so
badly in the polls when he dropped out.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
What was it?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
He insisted the night of the debate that Biden uh
did fine. Now he's one of the greatest presidents.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Wow, what was it? The uh? The thing is?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
In another answer, he said he was criticizing Biden and
and and the.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
Biden White House heavily for for leaving the border wide open.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Well, that was one of the main reasons. And then
there was the nine percent inflation. That was the other
main reason. How was that great? That have nine percent inflation?
And let h you know, ten million illegal aliens in
boh I thought the border was to open as well.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
And I was behind the chessboarding recal. You're a liar.
You're a liar. You're a liar. Joe Biden is one
of them. Go ahead campaign on that. That's great.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
When when you do the debate with the other candidates,
in fact, you and Kamala Harris can can compete. Who's
gonna who thinks Joe Biden was who has more praise
for Joe Biden? Who's going to be the greatest Joe
Biden champion? Speaking to Kamala, I'll go playing more news
some stuff next hour. But before I forget this. Kamala
(23:35):
was getting interviewed on Australian television and unlike kiss Ass,
head up the ass reporters like Jonathan carl Uh the
Australian reporter Sarah Ferguson for the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, when
Kamala Harris on her book tour dodged a question about Biden. Uh,
(23:57):
Sarah Ferguson very abruptly redirected, Kamla, you're gonna hear this,
this is this is actually funny. Uh. And then we
have a clip of Kamala's staff wanting to give up
on the interview.
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Speaker 1 (24:37):
All right.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
This is this is funny. Kamala Harris book tour. She's
now in Australia. And unlike these feeble bootlooking fools in
the American media who their only talent is to give
people like Kamala and Gavin News tongue baths. Here's a
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real reporter, Sarah Ferguson from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. She
asks a basic question. Coabo tries to filibuster, and let's
just say, Sarah Ferguson redirects her cut fourteen.
Speaker 6 (25:16):
Fortunately Joe Biden then to put it on him. Wasn't
his refusal to recognize his own trailties the reason that
you faced a nearly impossible task.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I ran against Donald Trump for president, and Donald Trump
ran on a platform that was, in large part, I believe,
misrepresenting his intentions to the American people. I do believe
that there are a fair number of people that voted
for Donald Trump who believed him when he told them
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that his first priority on day one is going to
be to bring down prices, and he didn't. And you
combine that misrepresentation of an tangen with also what was
that play in terms of massive amounts of misinteristine for me.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Now forgive me, I wanted a calendar in terms.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
Of yes, the clerk, I want to interrupt you because
that is a world class pivot. But it is not
the question that I asked you, which is about Joe
Biden's failure to recognize his own frailties and what that
did to you. The question is about Joe Biden. Are
you still reluctant to criticize the former.
Speaker 11 (26:28):
President in what regard?
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Please?
Speaker 6 (26:30):
Well, just in terms of that question, So you went.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Exactly would you like to ask be more specific if
you don't mind.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to recognize his
own frailties in that position that put you in the
position that made it almost impossible to win that race.
Speaker 11 (26:46):
He was not frail as president of the United States, but.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
He had frailties.
Speaker 11 (26:50):
We all saw the debate.
Speaker 4 (26:53):
I do believe that Joe Biden had the capacity to
be president of the United States, and I have never
doubted that he had the capacity to be president of
the United States.
Speaker 11 (27:03):
If you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Whether he had the ability to endure what a race
or president of the United States would require in that
political environment in twenty twenty four. As I've said in
the book, I had concerns.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question? No, we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his.
Speaker 11 (27:28):
Thord answered that question, I do not believe that.
Speaker 6 (27:32):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how there could not be a problem long term with
someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying he's
acuity wasn't present.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
That in the book, and I also mentioned the context
in which that debate occurred. And you'll probably remember how
I talked about that in terms of what his travel
schedule had been, that what he had been enduring, in
terms of the timing of that debate. I can talk
about it extensively in the book. I'm not shying away
from she starts showing, so I do answer the question people.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Had, do you believe that? Do you believe that? I
love I love this? Reporter Sarah Ferguson.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Now Ferguson kept at it, and what you'll hear hear
is Kamala Harris. Eventually her handler is telling Ferguson, well,
that's going to be the last question.
Speaker 6 (28:26):
I want to come back to the book and the
purpose of the book. So the last question, Yeah, well
that's almost a first, not an absolute first, but to
have a member of staff of the former vice president
of the United States actually speak up during the interview
to say that we were going too long. I didn't
expect that, But coming back to the interview itself, it
seems to me, and it's very heart there is a
(28:48):
reluctance on the part of Kamala Harris to actually spell
out and talk about the issues that Joe Biden had
as president. Was it Joe Biden's decision, his failure to
recognize his own frailties in that position that put you
in the position that made it almost impossible to win
that race.
Speaker 11 (29:07):
Not frail as president of the United States.
Speaker 6 (29:09):
But he had frailties.
Speaker 11 (29:10):
We all saw the debate.
Speaker 6 (29:12):
I'm just wondering, is there a reason why you won't
go to that prolonged frailty question. Now we saw the debate,
we saw the difficulty he had marshaling his.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
Thoughts answered that question. I do not believe.
Speaker 6 (29:24):
I think it's just hard watching the debate to see
how there could not be a problem long term with
someone who can't marshal their thoughts. I'm not saying his acuity,
it's in the book, but it seems to me she
doesn't want to say it on camera.
Speaker 11 (29:39):
I asked her that she denied it, but.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
I think there is still a reluctance there to criticize
Joe Biden, which makes her current pivot a really difficult one.
Because she's Joe Biden's vice president. It seems she's still
not prepared to completely condemn him. But she's got to
be a character in her own right without Joe Biden attached,
in order to have a chance to run again. So
(30:01):
that before I came in, that was the heart of
the interview, and it turned out to be the heart
of the interview.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Yeah, that was the whole interview there.
Speaker 11 (30:09):
I love this.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
She called out that staffer. I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Yeah, And here in America, reporters get intimidated by those staffers.
Speaker 11 (30:16):
I'd never be intimidated. I said, no, no, no, no, You're not.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
The one that's gonna tell me when I'm gonna be
done and ask the last question.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I'm sorry if Kama wants to go, let her on
camera say I don't want to answer these questions anymore.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
But enough with these staffords. What are you afraid of?
This is so good. That was a world class pivot.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
She is great and there's what I'm saying. Compare that
to this this slop that Jonathan carl is serving with
Gavin Newsom. Oh yeah yeah, We'll got more of him
to play too. Later on next hour, when we returned
though yesterday, Alex Stone came on to tell us how
the air traffic controllers are growing going hungry because of
the shutdown.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Uh, well, a lot of people are going to be
going hungry.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
There's forty two million people who get food benefits, food stamps,
snap benefits, they're called. We are going to talk to
Alex about what's happening next because the money's running out
for that program. Deborah Mark live in the KFI twenty
four our newsroom.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
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