August 29, 2025 • 36 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (08/29) - Lou Penrose fills in for John. The Minneapolis Police Chief is asking the media to not say the shooter's name from the Catholic school shooting. More on the Minneapolis Police Chief is asking the media to not say the shooter's name from the Catholic school shooting. More on Newsom's attempt to get tough on crime.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't f I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
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app Lou Penrose.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
If John Covelt on the John Covelt Show, John Cobelt
will be back with us on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Will be getting ready for a fantastic Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The Chief of Police of Minnesota, Chief O'Hara, has had
a tough week for sure. Impressive clearly with respect to
handling what has been a really difficult story to report.
In every press conference, he's been crisp and concise in
disseminating information and answering questions as best he can.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The one thing that stood out to me.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
He talked about what we learned about the shooter, and
what came out, among other oddities, is the shooter's fixation
with other school shooters, and it was it's clear to
the Chief of police that he wants the kind of
notoriety that he believes these other school shooters have enjoyed. Therefore,
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he doesn't want the school shooter to get what he
sought out to gain, and that is notoriety. Dark ominous notoriety,
but nevertheless notoriety.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So at a press conference, one of the.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Many press conferences that assued the horrible shooting. The other day,
he specifically asked the media to not use the shooter's name.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Here it is the White House official texta me in
this morning towards you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Here it is we know, ultimately the purpose of the
shooter's actions was to obtain notoriety for the shooter themselves.
That being said, I have only said the name of
this shooter once, and I'm asking members of the media
to stop saying the shooter's name. That was the whole
purpose of why he did this heinous act to obtain
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that notoriety for themselves.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And I've been thinking about that a lot, because we've
been talking about it all week.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
His name isn't just a run of the mill name.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
There was a change and a name change as a
minor that was petitioned by his parent.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So that's kind of a part of the story.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It helps give insight into all of our curiosity as
to what motivated this.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Horrible, horrible, horrible act.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And I've not Deborah Marcus here. I don't recalled the
last time.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
A law enforcement official spoke directly to the media about
how it was reporting the story. And I'm just I've
been thinking about the pros and cons of what he's
asking for.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Gosh, I can't think of another example recently either. I
think as members of the media, we have the right
to report the name.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I don't say it often. I've said it a few times.
I don't feel that it's necessary for me to constantly
say the shooter's name. However, I don't want somebody telling
me that I can't. I don't want somebody saying, please
don't do that. I think it's it's up to the
individual news departments. I do understand why people don't want
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to say the name. This guy's dead, so he's not
going to see if he has any notoriety, and right, he's.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Not exactly what I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I thought, Wait a minute, he's not like smiling because
he's getting notreias dead, So he would have never known
if his wishes were granted or if his dream came true.
So we could have not said the name and he
would not have known either way.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
So well, some people also say that they're concerned about copycats.
So when you hear people constantly saying the name of
a shooter, right, that person is in the spotlight, and
so it could possibly motivate others to do this because
they're hoping that it will get their name out. Whether
they're alive or dead, I don't know. But again, I
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guess the bottom line for me as a journalist is
I have said it. I think it's important to say
the name. I don't think it's important to constantly say
the name.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Right, of course, And he even said that, he said,
I said, at once, they we found the identity, and
we released the identity, and thereafter it's the shooter when.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Describing the story.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So I mean, I truly appreciate where the chief of
police is coming from, but I'm reminded that there are
other countries where a suspects name is not released until
after trial. So as a as a as a reporter,
a journalist, someone that's seeking to get information, we're not
allowed to.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Know even the name of a suspect.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And that is where this goes when we start having
law enforcement limit what journalists can and can't know, what
the public can and can't.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Know, because where what's the next step?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Then?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, and I don't want that, right and I don't
like being held hostage by a criminal.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Right This idea that well, if you say, the name
that gives him some lift.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And so the next guy that wants to get Notori.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
By committing a heinous act, you're giving that person, you know,
an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We ought to be able to talk about what happened
and all the angles to what happened, including the name
change and the name and everything else we talk about
without worrying that, Hey, lou, if you talk about this
too much, you're making it exciting for some other nuts
somewhere that might do the same thing. I'm not going
to be limited in public discussion because I might incite
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some other acts. So the copycat thing, I appreciate it.
Trust me, my kids go to Catholic school. I've got
NonStop techts about increased security that's going on in and
around all schools, not just Catholic school, but specifically Catholic
school because of the FBI hate crime elevation.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I understand the considered about copycat crimes. But what
are we supposed to do? I mean, we have to
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
From many of us, It's the way we handle, you know,
dealing with a story like this.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Also, I feel that people that are going to commit
such heinous acts. I think they're going to do it anyway,
whether we say the name or we don't. I think
that there are those people out there that are they
they want to create this chaos, or they there's mental illness,
and by eliminating the name or not, I think they're.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Still going to do it. Right. I don't remember the
person that shut up Sandy Hook.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I don't remember the name of the person in Uvalde,
I little thing Colorado.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I can barely remember the name only.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But he knew all the names, he had it all
written down.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He was obsessed. He was obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I don't think that that's because it was constantly
played in the Minneapolis television station, you know, when all
those school shootings took place.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
But I do hear people tell me all the time,
why do you guys, why do you need to say
the name?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Why do you do that?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Doesn't that give motivation for people to do these things?
And I mean so, I know that that is a
common thought out there, But I think us in the media,
we feel that we should be able to say the name,
give as much information as possible, because that's our job.
But again, I do stand with what I said earlier
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that I don't feel it's necessary for me to constantly
say the name. And lots of stories that I do,
local stories, not as heinous as this. Sometimes I don't
even say the name because it's not important. It's I
wouldn't say minor, but it's nothing major, like the Minneapolis shooting.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, look, he had a name. His name was Robert
than Robin, kind of a more common name than mine,
which is Luigi. And as you recall, Luigi was a
pretty good name for a while, you know, a video
game character. Then all of a sudden, some kid named
Luigi shot the guy from US Health, and I have
to live with that now. So it's a much more
recognizable and rememberable name Luigi.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So I went back to lou Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I understand that for sure, But again I just I
don't think we want to be told. I understand, I
understand why public officials would say that, but how many
people are really going to abide by that in the media.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I appreciate the insight. Deborah Mark from the KFI newsroom.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, when we come back, we do have more information,
including where he worked and what his mother is up
to with respect to lawyering up we'll share with that
we'll share all of that with you. Lou Penrose, your
old buddy Luigi, And for John Cobelt on KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobalt this week. John.
We'll be back with you on Tuesday. The chief of
police has asked the media to stop saying the name
of the shooter.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He said, I only said it once for the purposes
of identifying the name, and I don't think it helps
that you and the media continue to say the name,
since that is exactly what the shooter wanted, notoriety, and
there's new information that comes out all the time that
would be impossible to share or talk about without the
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name because the mother is a factor, and we are
learning more about the mother now he and where he
works or worked as a factor, and we're learning more
about that. So it's they're pros and cons and this
is what we have to wrestle with. I would always
err on the side of more information, not less.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I'm not really a journalist. I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Hang out with journalists in the newsroom here, but I'm
an opinion guy, But I understand. I would rather the
public have access to the information and then we deal
with it than the information in the hands of officials.
But you know, us being denied it for fear that
we might talk about it too much and spark some copycats.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
If you don't want copycats, if you want to stop
to stop making it a news headline for days and days,
report once, stop reporting it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I I'm not sure I believe that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't agree with that, and I'm not even sure
I believe that it causes copy I know every time
there's a wildfire, there's another wildfire because somebody gets excited
that's a an arsonists and go lights of fire to
watch it on TV.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So what are we gonna do, Not talk about the
fact that there's a fire because somebody might get excited,
Like there's nothing I can do about that. Somebody that
is that insane that would want to copy this event
is insane anyway. But you and I talking about what
happened does a lot. Number One in Uvaldi, we learned
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a lot about security and response time. There's all kinds
of new discussions now about having more and more armed
presence on campuses and in church. I know one guy
who is in the he's a a firearms trainer, and
he said, look, we need to armor up in society.
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There's just a lot of maniacs out there, and whether
you make laws stronger or more lenient, they always seem
to get firearms.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So we need to be aware of that and be safer.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I don't love the sound of that, but that's that's
that point of view that we that that this school,
that the schools should have had armed security, that this
church should have had armed security, That there's a lot
of that these are targets, and uh, there's a trend.
So there's that point of view. And then of course
the tales of heroism helped save the pain, and knowing
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the stories of these children, I think is a little
bit therapeutic. So and it's a national discussion. I mean,
people are going to talk about it whether we stop
talking about it or not here on the radio, so
we might as well engage in the discussion. So I
and I refuse to be held hostage as a society
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that talks. You know, one of the good things about
the United States, from Maine to San Diego from Portland
to Palm Beach. We all speak English, were not like Europe,
and so we can have we can have national conversations
at all times.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
In every single airport in the United States, we all
speak the same language.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So when there's an issue going on, a story going
on that moves all of us at the same time,
we can have collective national discussions in the same language.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So let's take advantage of that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I don't think that even giving his name is going
to make any difference one way or another. It's still
going to be referred to this particular shooting when they
talk about the church to town, whatever that is. The
shooter is really I'm just trying to get better than
that shooter.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So it's just my feeling. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We know more about the mother now, and she has
retained an attorney, a criminal defense attorney.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Fox News has learned that the shooter's mother, Mary Grace Westman,
has retained a criminal defense attorney, who tells Fox News
Digital she is very distraught about the situation and has
no culpability. It comes as investigators say they were able
to execute four search warrants Wednesday and retrieved hundreds of
pieces of evidence from the shooter, including a manifesto time
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released on YouTube that included disturbing writings with multiple anti
Catholic and anti religious references. FBI director Cash Battel also
saying the shooter expressed hatred towards Jewish people. In Minneapolis,
police chief says Westman is not cooperating with investigators.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So the fact that we've not had a statement from
the mother tells me that the mother is worried about
being in trouble.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's what that tells me.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And I am not done being perturbed with the mother.
I'm not done being perturbed with that entire family. I
understand there's siblings. I'd not heard from them. He references
siblings in his writings, and.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't know what's going on in that family. I
don't know what's going on in that house. But I'll
tell you right now, I don't like it. Now. I'm
kind of with Gary and Shannon on this.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Shannon really made the point, and that is when there
is criminal activity a murder, and there's a murder mystery,
and there's motive, and if the motive is greed or
possessions or lust or crimes of passion, like all the
movies right that we're trying to find out why somebody
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got killed.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's a very different curiosity for me than.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
The ramblings of a maniac Like I don't I'm not
interested in learning more about the motive. I wasn't interested
in learning about the motive from the get go. I
get it as part of a criminal investigation, you want
to go through the diaries and the right and the
manifestos and the YouTube videos. I understand that from a
law enforcement and a forensic investigation point of view, you
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have to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But for me, who cares why he did it? He's
a nut, He's a crazy people. He's a crazy person.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And I cannot believe he was keeping it together most
of the day, which means that people had to know
he was crazy, like his immediate family, you know, like
his mother. And it's pretty hard to hide crazy and
anti Semitic, anti Catholic views and guns and ammunition. It
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can be done, but it's not easy to do, especially
if you're not like hold out somewhere in a cabin
up in Big Bear. It looks like he was in
someone's home from the video. It looks like a regular
bedroom and it looks like a regular closet, and he
was out purchasing specific attire for the day, and he
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had all kinds of weapons and magazines. And I know
he had a car, which means he had car insurance.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So this is a lot it takes.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And if he was living on his own, he would
have to put a roof over his head and have
you know, three square meals a day. So I want
to know where the money comes from. Where's the cash.
Somebody's bankrolling this unless he's doing it himself. And if
he's doing it himself, he's able to keep together the
maniacal talk that we heard on the video.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And worked for an eight hour shift. So something's wrong,
something is missing.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And then when we have not heard from the mother
at all or any of the siblings, and the mother
now retains a criminal defense attorney and she's quiet, I'm
beginning to suspect that they knew.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They hoped it wouldn't get out of hand, but they knew.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And you do have a responsibility for what's going on
under your roof if criminal activity is going on there. Also,
we now learned that he did have a job. We
don't know how long he worked. But he did have
a job. Guess where he worked at the four to
twenty shop.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
We don't know for sure that west Bend was an
avid weed user, but we do know they worked at
the dispensary.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Manifesto. He said he vaped a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
He believed he did it so much that he would
get cancer from it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
All right, So there you go, worked at the dispensary. Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So now we got a stoned, armed maniac with guns
who hates children, Jewish people, black people, Catholic people, hates
everybody and wants to kill everybody, and he's high with weapons.
Lovely Lou Penrose in for John Cobalt on KFI AM
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six forty.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's the John Coblt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for
John Coblt this week. John, we'll be back with you
on Tuesday. I hope you're gonna have a fantastic holiday
weekend Labor Day. On Monday, everybody's on the roads getting
out of town and headed out to either the desert
or San Diego or points north. People still going to Vegas.
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We are learning more now about the shooter. And this
comes after the chief of police in Minneapolis encourage media
to not repeat the name of the shooter so as
to deny the shooter. What the shooter wanted. After investigation
into his manifesto, which is notoriety and that is interesting
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and we're talking about.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
It, officials say to suspect had a fixation on violent
school shooters and had a deep obsession with wanting to
kill young innocent children. The twenty three year old shooter
was a former student whose mother once worked at the church.
The shooter was born a male, but filed for a
name change at just seventeen years old with parental approval.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So I wanted you to hear that report.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
That is a Fox Radio news reporter who is and
as far as I am aware, there have been no
directives in any major news organization, certainly none here to
obey that directive.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But it does work.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You hear her specifically not referring to the name, and
when referencing the mother, not even referencing her name, because
the story is that the mother worked at.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
The school and he attended the school.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
That helps us understand all that's going on here without
using the mother's name, which would be his last name,
and that the individual was fixated on previous shooters with
a specific, horrible and ghoulish focus on hurting children. But
you hear there is an example of how the reporting
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would go based on the wishes of the chief of police.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
Officials say that shooter left multiple anti religious references in
his manifesto and written on firearms that manifesto expressing a
deep hatred toward almost all groups and people, including African Americans,
President Trump, and Jewish people.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, so that does work. I mean that report is
an update. We know more now.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It doesn't really help, but we're curious about it. And
the name was never used, so it is possible.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Again.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I kind of agree with Debora Mark, that's fine, we
can limit it, but I don't want to be told
to limit it. I want to have that be a
case by case judgment.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
Call heylu regarding this tragedy that happened and the predictable
Democrat getting on a microphone an hour later and blaming
the gun, Miss Amy Klobsar, Have we determined what gun
to blame? Was it the shotgun, the rifle or the
pistol that we can lay this blame on for this
tragic situation with these kids being killed.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
See if he's gonna stew which gun to blame? Thank you, Yeah,
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think that is far more of an egregious act
by lawmakers politicizing the tragic event.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Right, he mentioned Senator Klobachar.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
There are Democrats who really wish to strengthen gun laws
federally that have nothing to do with the weapons used
in this horrible crime. In this specific crime, a rifle
was used, a shotgun was used, and the pistol was used.
So it's ridiculous to blame gun here. Which one do
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you want to limit? Which one do you want to outlaw?
What do you want to outlaw all rifles? Okay, well,
you had a shotgun and a pistol. You want to
outlaw the shotgun people hunt in Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You want to outlaw all handguns? He had a rifle
and a shotgun.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It speaks to the foolishness of blaming the weapon as
the reason.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But people on the Democrat side just insist on doing it.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, I don't even know if it's Democrats, it's democrats
and anti Second Amendment people. And it was moments after
the reports came out that you had elected Democrats on
social media talking about gun laws, and I think that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's absolutely horrible.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Even if you want to have a discussion about gun laws,
have it when no horrible events have happened, right, play fair.
Everybody feels bad when children are shot and killed.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That isn't the right time.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
To start bringing up political agenda and policy ideas with
respect to the Second Amendment. So I find that frankly unbecoming.
And if you're a Democrat with a good idea, and
if you have some idea of a piece of legislation
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that could have limited what happened here in Minneapolis, or
limit what would happen what could happen in any of
the shootings that have taken place in the past. If
you got a good idea, you're like, I don't know,
you guys all miss it. All we have to do
is this, and this wouldn't have happened. Even if you're
that person with that good idea, you lost me by
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trying to interject your good idea right when people are
still bleeding, so very very bad taste.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Uh and uh all for or not?
Speaker 8 (24:03):
I think it is not necessary for us to hear
what happened across the nation at another state before. Every
state should report on their own problems. Period.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I don't have to know what's happening in New York
or Florida or Arizona, no need.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
So no interstate reporting, only things that go on here
in California.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I don't know if that's the solution.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I mean, how will I know if the Cowboys are
trading Michael Parsons to Green Bay?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Like if we only report what.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Happens within the state of California, what if the Dodgers
are on a road trip. I mean, I don't think
you thought that went through. But I appreciate the call,
all right, when we come back. So, Governor Newsom, as
you heard yesterday, has beat up his crime fighting bona
fides by establishing a Sea HP led crime suppression team
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that he's dispatching to Los Angeles, but also San Diego,
the Border Division, the Inland Empire, Sacramento, the Bay Area,
San Francisco, and around San Francisco, San Berdandino, Bakersfield, I
mean pretty much everywhere. So it's a statewide effort to
fight crime. He's facing a lot of criticism because people
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think that he's just mirror mirror, like mirroring every single
thing that President Trump does. And he actually used the
word mirror. He said, we need to hold a mirror
to this administration in its foolishness. But it seems like
he's doing everything Trump is doing.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Trump is getting high marks for his work in law enforcement.
There's a new poll out at CNN that shows that
this is now Trump's strongest issue. Illegal immigration and immigration
enforcement was his strongest issue coming out of January.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That was the thing he was going to do, and
everybody gave him high marks. That's now dipped.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
People are not as excited with his handling of immigration
enforcement as they are his handling of Americans committing crimes,
and that he is off the charts in the polling
and that's what's keeping his overall approval ratings up. So
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Americans are flattening out on some of the other issues,
Inflation and his handling of the war between Russia and
Ukraine and tariffs, all that stuff kind of flattening out,
going down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Everyone's not so excited about it. But there are three
I mean, they're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Cartwheels over his handling of law enforcement, and that's only
happening in DC because that's the only place where he
can have a say over local law on enforcement. So
that's the reason Trump is talking about it. And I'll share
with you the polling them that's coming up next. Lou
Penrose if of John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt Show.
Coming up following the News at three, we'll talk with
California State Senator Tony Strickland. He has reaction to Governor
Gavin Newsom's get tough on crime surge of crime suppression,
and the story of Newsom's decision to get tough on
crime in California has made it coast to coast. People
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are talking about it in Washington, DC, including President Trump.
Speaker 12 (27:40):
If the governors in competent.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I know Gavin very well, he said in confident with
a good land of bullshit, and he doesn't get the
job at President Trump.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Letting the expeditives fly.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Uh. These two are just going back and forth, and
I find it fascinating because they they are both very
interesting political animals, very different political animals, but there's something
about them that is there's a there's a very is
a common underscore that they have. Here's Newsome admitting that
(28:16):
he has been trolling President Trump on social media.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
Yes, we're putting a mirror up to the lunacy that
is Trump's tweets in his grift.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So he's putting a mirror up to it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That means he knows that what he is doing, at
least his presence on social media is designed to mimic
and mock Trump. Now I don't think a lot of
people are getting the joke. Like he's like he's posting
in all caps. He's posting in a almost kind of
a staccato verbiage, the way President Trump does.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He'll make a statement and then just do a one
one word sentence sad and you know you'll lock out
by saying thank you for your attention to this matter.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
And so Newsom's doing that as well, sometimes in all caps,
and it's a bizarre technique. It doesn't really seem to
mock the president. It doesn't get under his skin, which
I think originally was the plan, but it is gaining attention,
and it's causing this kind of back and forth ping
(29:26):
pong ball volley from Sacramento to the West wing and
then back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And I'm interested to see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So this is from This is interesting, and I hope
you can hear what I hear.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Visually it speaks for itself. But we're here on the radio.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
In twenty eighteen, there was a terrible fire in California
called the Campfire. And President Trump, who had been two
years into his presidency, and I think impeachment was already
already going on, but he was certainly not popular in California,
but nevertheless came to California to lend US support, pledging
federal support, aid all that stuff to the campfire.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Twenty eighteen. Now it's November of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So Newsom had just been elected governor, and Jerry Well, he's.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Governor elect, and Jerry Brown's governor.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So the three of them are at like in the
in the mountains where the fire is, at the campfire,
looking over the charred ashes and holding.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
A press conference.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And here you have President Trump two years into his presidency,
and you have Jerry Brown, who's the outgoing governor, and
this guy named Gavin Newsom, who is the governor elect
who Trump met that very day. And if you the
body language is unbelievably interesting, but you can pretty much
pick it up from just the sound here.
Speaker 13 (30:48):
It is no politics being played here. The President signed
an a mercy declaration immediately. And I cannot impress upon
all the folks here how grateful I am for the
conversations we've had private, non public, and I have to.
Speaker 12 (31:01):
Say the government officials have done an incredible job since
Gavin I've just met, and I've heard terrific things, and
I think we've developed a great relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
We have to work together, all right, to stop Gavin
I just met.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I love that the governor elect of California just meets him,
calls him by his first name, as if he's an intern.
I also noticed, now again I don't know the relationship
at this point. Certainly Newsom was campaigning to be governor
of California on an anti Trump agenda because Trump had
been president for two years beat Hillary Clinton. Every Democrat
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hated him. Here he is the newly elected Democrat governor.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Of the large estate.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So politically, probably the biggest adversary going next to then
Speaker Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Who is related to Newsom.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So everybody is aware in twenty eighteen that there is
there should be no political love laws.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But the body language was very telling and the language
use very telling.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Listen to Newsom conveying something that I think is important
to point out, and.
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I cannot impress upon all the folks here how grateful
I am for the conversations we've had private, not just public.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Stop stop stop stop. That's an interesting technique. Politicians use
that often.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I want you to know we've had conversations public and private. Now,
lou Penrod's rule number four, words matter, and those words matter.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What is Newsom trying to communicate there? He's trying to communicate.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Look, you see us here talking to each other at
this press conference. But I want you to know that
we have had secret personal conversations.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That you're not privy to, and I'm not going to
tell you about. But I want you to know that
we are.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You know that we have each other's cell phone number,
that we have a connection, We've had private conversations. That's
the reason for saying that, The reason for saying look,
I'm very happy with the President. I want you to
know that I've had conversations with the President private and public.
That's another way of saying I'm in I got a
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straight line. I'm personally connected with this guy. Now I
get it. As governor, you want relief money, you want
the federal government on your side, So you want the
people of California to know, Look, I'm right and tight
with the President of the United States.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
One.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's one outcome of making that suggestion. But I think
it goes deeper. I think Newsome wants everybody to know
that he and the President of the United States, I
don't Trump, have a connection.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's what I believe.
Speaker 13 (33:42):
How grateful I am for the conversations we've had private,
not just public.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
I have to say the government officials have done an
incredible job. And Gavin I've just met, and I've heard
terrific things, and I think we've developed a great relationship.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
We have to work.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Together, all right.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So there's President Trump being magnanimous as he always is.
He can call you all kinds of names and make
fun of you and make up names that are not flattering,
and tweet out things about you.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But when he sees you in.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Person, and this important stuff to do, like, you know,
a major fire.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And a tragedy.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
He's very magnanimous and said, look, Gavin heard good things
about you.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
We got a lot to do. We got to work together.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Then something else happened and you can't hear it, but
I'm gonna describe.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
What you can hear is the camera's going nuts. So
you got here, you got you got the three.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Jerry Brown, who means nothing to anybody at this point
because the outgoing Governor Newsom who just got elected governor,
he's governor elect. This is November, and President Trump, who
is being impeached back in DC and is in California,
the home of Nancy Pelosi, but he's there on official
business and.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Sincerely wants to be helpful.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So he literally extends his hand out to show the
cameras and the reporters that he's gonna shake cans with.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Gavin, who he just met.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But he pulls him in, gives him you all slap
on the back routine, come on in here, and you
can hear it in the in the camera clicks.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
A great relationship. We have to work together is a
very big problem, and we have to solve this problem,
and I.
Speaker 13 (35:16):
Know that we're gonna work together.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
I have no I have no dat is We're gonna.
Speaker 13 (35:21):
Get it done.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
There it is. Listen is this come here together?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I have NOA And that's hear that, hear that. That
is all the clicks from the cameras. New some shaking
hands with Donald Trump, who at that time Nancy Pelosi
is in the process of impeaching. It was classic, and
(35:44):
I think that relationship still exists. So I'm not sure
what exactly they're up to with each other, but I
suspect this volley to go back and forth for quite
some time.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Now New some tough on crime. We'll talk about it next.
Lou Penrose.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
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will be back with us on Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Will be getting ready for a fantastic Labor Day weekend.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
The Chief of Police of Minnesota, Chief O'Hara, has had
a tough week for sure. Impressive clearly with respect to
handling what has been a really difficult story to report.
In every press conference, he's been crisp and concise in
disseminating information and answering questions as best he can.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
The one thing that stood out to me.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
He talked about what we learned about the shooter, and
what came out, among other oddities, is the shooter's fixation
with other school shooters, and it was it's clear to
the Chief of police that he wants the kind of
notoriety that he believes these other school shooters have enjoyed. Therefore,
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he doesn't want the school shooter to get what he
sought out to gain, and that is notoriety. Dark ominous notoriety,
but nevertheless notoriety.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
So at a press conference, one of the.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Many press conferences that assued the horrible shooting. The other day,
he specifically asked the media to not use the shooter's name.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Here it is the White House official texta me in
this morning towards you.
Speaker 4 (01:27):
Here it is we know, ultimately the purpose of the
shooter's actions was to obtain notoriety for the shooter themselves.
That being said, I have only said the name of
this shooter once, and I'm asking members of the media
to stop saying the shooter's name. That was the whole
purpose of why he did this heinous act to obtain
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that notoriety for themselves.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
And I've been thinking about that a lot, because we've
been talking about it all week.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
His name isn't just a run of the mill name.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
There was a change and a name change as a
minor that was petitioned by his parent.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
So that's kind of a part of the story.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
It helps give insight into all of our curiosity as
to what motivated this.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
Horrible, horrible, horrible act.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
And I've not Deborah Marcus here. I don't recalled the
last time.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
A law enforcement official spoke directly to the media about
how it was reporting the story. And I'm just I've
been thinking about the pros and cons of what he's
asking for.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Well, I mean, I.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
Gosh, I can't think of another example recently either. I
think as members of the media, we have the right
to report the name.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
Now.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I don't say it often. I've said it a few times.
I don't feel that it's necessary for me to constantly
say the shooter's name. However, I don't want somebody telling
me that I can't. I don't want somebody saying, please
don't do that. I think it's it's up to the
individual news departments. I do understand why people don't want
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to say the name. This guy's dead, so he's not
going to see if he has any notoriety, and right, he's.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Not exactly what I thought.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I thought, Wait a minute, he's not like smiling because
he's getting notreias dead, So he would have never known
if his wishes were granted or if his dream came true.
So we could have not said the name and he
would not have known either way.
Speaker 6 (03:33):
So well, some people also say that they're concerned about copycats.
So when you hear people constantly saying the name of
a shooter, right, that person is in the spotlight, and
so it could possibly motivate others to do this because
they're hoping that it will get their name out. Whether
they're alive or dead, I don't know. But again, I
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guess the bottom line for me as a journalist is
I have said it. I think it's important to say
the name. I don't think it's important to constantly say
the name.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
Right, of course, And he even said that, he said,
I said, at once, they we found the identity, and
we released the identity, and thereafter it's the shooter when.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Describing the story.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So I mean, I truly appreciate where the chief of
police is coming from, but I'm reminded that there are
other countries where a suspects name is not released until
after trial. So as a as a as a reporter,
a journalist, someone that's seeking to get information, we're not
allowed to.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Know even the name of a suspect.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
And that is where this goes when we start having
law enforcement limit what journalists can and can't know, what
the public can and can't.
Speaker 6 (04:40):
Know, because where what's the next step?
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Then?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, and I don't want that, right and I don't
like being held hostage by a criminal.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Right This idea that well, if you say, the name
that gives him some lift.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
And so the next guy that wants to get Notori.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
By committing a heinous act, you're giving that person, you know,
an opportunity.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
We ought to be able to talk about what happened
and all the angles to what happened, including the name
change and the name and everything else we talk about
without worrying that, Hey, lou, if you talk about this
too much, you're making it exciting for some other nuts
somewhere that might do the same thing. I'm not going
to be limited in public discussion because I might incite
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some other acts. So the copycat thing, I appreciate it.
Trust me, my kids go to Catholic school. I've got
NonStop techts about increased security that's going on in and
around all schools, not just Catholic school, but specifically Catholic
school because of the FBI hate crime elevation.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
So I understand the considered about copycat crimes. But what
are we supposed to do? I mean, we have to
talk about it.
Speaker 3 (05:51):
From many of us, It's the way we handle, you know,
dealing with a story like this.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Well.
Speaker 6 (05:56):
Also, I feel that people that are going to commit
such heinous acts. I think they're going to do it anyway,
whether we say the name or we don't. I think
that there are those people out there that are they
they want to create this chaos, or they there's mental illness,
and by eliminating the name or not, I think they're.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Still going to do it. Right. I don't remember the
person that shut up Sandy Hook.
Speaker 3 (06:22):
I don't remember the name of the person in Uvalde,
I little thing Colorado.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
I can barely remember the name only.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
But he knew all the names, he had it all
written down.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
He was obsessed. He was obsessed with it.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
So I don't think that that's because it was constantly
played in the Minneapolis television station, you know, when all
those school shootings took place.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
But I do hear people tell me all the time,
why do you guys, why do you need to say
the name?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Why do you do that?
Speaker 6 (06:50):
Doesn't that give motivation for people to do these things?
And I mean so, I know that that is a
common thought out there, But I think us in the media,
we feel that we should be able to say the name,
give as much information as possible, because that's our job.
But again, I do stand with what I said earlier
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that I don't feel it's necessary for me to constantly
say the name. And lots of stories that I do,
local stories, not as heinous as this. Sometimes I don't
even say the name because it's not important. It's I
wouldn't say minor, but it's nothing major, like the Minneapolis shooting.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Well, look, he had a name. His name was Robert
than Robin, kind of a more common name than mine,
which is Luigi. And as you recall, Luigi was a
pretty good name for a while, you know, a video
game character. Then all of a sudden, some kid named
Luigi shot the guy from US Health, and I have
to live with that now. So it's a much more
recognizable and rememberable name Luigi.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So I went back to lou Yeah.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
I understand that for sure, But again I just I
don't think we want to be told. I understand, I
understand why public officials would say that, but how many
people are really going to abide by that in the media.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
I appreciate the insight. Deborah Mark from the KFI newsroom.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
All right, when we come back, we do have more information,
including where he worked and what his mother is up
to with respect to lawyering up we'll share with that
we'll share all of that with you. Lou Penrose, your
old buddy Luigi, And for John Cobelt on KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 7 (08:23):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobalt this week. John.
We'll be back with you on Tuesday. The chief of
police has asked the media to stop saying the name
of the shooter.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
He said, I only said it once for the purposes
of identifying the name, and I don't think it helps
that you and the media continue to say the name,
since that is exactly what the shooter wanted, notoriety, and
there's new information that comes out all the time that
would be impossible to share or talk about without the
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name because the mother is a factor, and we are
learning more about the mother now he and where he
works or worked as a factor, and we're learning more
about that. So it's they're pros and cons and this
is what we have to wrestle with. I would always
err on the side of more information, not less.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I'm not really a journalist. I mean, I.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
Hang out with journalists in the newsroom here, but I'm
an opinion guy, But I understand. I would rather the
public have access to the information and then we deal
with it than the information in the hands of officials.
But you know, us being denied it for fear that
we might talk about it too much and spark some copycats.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
If you don't want copycats, if you want to stop
to stop making it a news headline for days and days,
report once, stop reporting it.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Yeah, I I'm not sure I believe that.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
I don't agree with that, and I'm not even sure
I believe that it causes copy I know every time
there's a wildfire, there's another wildfire because somebody gets excited
that's a an arsonists and go lights of fire to
watch it on TV.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Like I can't do anything about that.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
So what are we gonna do, Not talk about the
fact that there's a fire because somebody might get excited,
Like there's nothing I can do about that. Somebody that
is that insane that would want to copy this event
is insane anyway. But you and I talking about what
happened does a lot. Number One in Uvaldi, we learned
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a lot about security and response time. There's all kinds
of new discussions now about having more and more armed
presence on campuses and in church. I know one guy
who is in the he's a a firearms trainer, and
he said, look, we need to armor up in society.
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There's just a lot of maniacs out there, and whether
you make laws stronger or more lenient, they always seem
to get firearms.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
So we need to be aware of that and be safer.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
I don't love the sound of that, but that's that's
that point of view that we that that this school,
that the schools should have had armed security, that this
church should have had armed security, That there's a lot
of that these are targets, and uh, there's a trend.
So there's that point of view. And then of course
the tales of heroism helped save the pain, and knowing
(11:46):
the stories of these children, I think is a little
bit therapeutic. So and it's a national discussion. I mean,
people are going to talk about it whether we stop
talking about it or not here on the radio, so
we might as well engage in the discussion. So I
and I refuse to be held hostage as a society
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that talks. You know, one of the good things about
the United States, from Maine to San Diego from Portland
to Palm Beach. We all speak English, were not like Europe,
and so we can have we can have national conversations
at all times.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
In every single airport in the United States, we all
speak the same language.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
So when there's an issue going on, a story going
on that moves all of us at the same time,
we can have collective national discussions in the same language.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
So let's take advantage of that opportunity.
Speaker 5 (12:41):
I don't think that even giving his name is going
to make any difference one way or another. It's still
going to be referred to this particular shooting when they
talk about the church to town, whatever that is. The
shooter is really I'm just trying to get better than
that shooter.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
So it's just my feeling. I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
We know more about the mother now, and she has
retained an attorney, a criminal defense attorney.
Speaker 9 (13:06):
Fox News has learned that the shooter's mother, Mary Grace Westman,
has retained a criminal defense attorney, who tells Fox News
Digital she is very distraught about the situation and has
no culpability. It comes as investigators say they were able
to execute four search warrants Wednesday and retrieved hundreds of
pieces of evidence from the shooter, including a manifesto time
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released on YouTube that included disturbing writings with multiple anti
Catholic and anti religious references. FBI director Cash Battel also
saying the shooter expressed hatred towards Jewish people. In Minneapolis,
police chief says Westman is not cooperating with investigators.
Speaker 3 (13:44):
So the fact that we've not had a statement from
the mother tells me that the mother is worried about
being in trouble.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
That's what that tells me.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
And I am not done being perturbed with the mother.
I'm not done being perturbed with that entire family. I
understand there's siblings. I'd not heard from them. He references
siblings in his writings, and.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
I don't know what's going on in that family. I
don't know what's going on in that house. But I'll
tell you right now, I don't like it. Now. I'm
kind of with Gary and Shannon on this.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Shannon really made the point, and that is when there
is criminal activity a murder, and there's a murder mystery,
and there's motive, and if the motive is greed or
possessions or lust or crimes of passion, like all the
movies right that we're trying to find out why somebody
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got killed.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
That's a very different curiosity for me than.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
The ramblings of a maniac Like I don't I'm not
interested in learning more about the motive. I wasn't interested
in learning about the motive from the get go. I
get it as part of a criminal investigation, you want
to go through the diaries and the right and the
manifestos and the YouTube videos. I understand that from a
law enforcement and a forensic investigation point of view, you
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have to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
But for me, who cares why he did it? He's
a nut, He's a crazy people. He's a crazy person.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And I cannot believe he was keeping it together most
of the day, which means that people had to know
he was crazy, like his immediate family, you know, like
his mother. And it's pretty hard to hide crazy and
anti Semitic, anti Catholic views and guns and ammunition. It
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can be done, but it's not easy to do, especially
if you're not like hold out somewhere in a cabin
up in Big Bear. It looks like he was in
someone's home from the video. It looks like a regular
bedroom and it looks like a regular closet, and he
was out purchasing specific attire for the day, and he
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had all kinds of weapons and magazines. And I know
he had a car, which means he had car insurance.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So this is a lot it takes.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
And if he was living on his own, he would
have to put a roof over his head and have
you know, three square meals a day. So I want
to know where the money comes from. Where's the cash.
Somebody's bankrolling this unless he's doing it himself. And if
he's doing it himself, he's able to keep together the
maniacal talk that we heard on the video.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
And worked for an eight hour shift. So something's wrong,
something is missing.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
And then when we have not heard from the mother
at all or any of the siblings, and the mother
now retains a criminal defense attorney and she's quiet, I'm
beginning to suspect that they knew.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
They hoped it wouldn't get out of hand, but they knew.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
And you do have a responsibility for what's going on
under your roof if criminal activity is going on there. Also,
we now learned that he did have a job. We
don't know how long he worked. But he did have
a job. Guess where he worked at the four to
twenty shop.
Speaker 9 (17:27):
We don't know for sure that west Bend was an
avid weed user, but we do know they worked at
the dispensary.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
Manifesto. He said he vaped a lot.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
He believed he did it so much that he would
get cancer from it.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
All right, So there you go, worked at the dispensary. Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So now we got a stoned, armed maniac with guns
who hates children, Jewish people, black people, Catholic people, hates
everybody and wants to kill everybody, and he's high with weapons.
Lovely Lou Penrose in for John Cobalt on KFI AM
(18:05):
six forty.
Speaker 7 (18:06):
You're listening to John cobelts on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
It's the John Coblt Show. Lou Penrose sitting in for
John Coblt this week. John, we'll be back with you
on Tuesday. I hope you're gonna have a fantastic holiday
weekend Labor Day. On Monday, everybody's on the roads getting
out of town and headed out to either the desert
or San Diego or points north. People still going to Vegas.
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We are learning more now about the shooter. And this
comes after the chief of police in Minneapolis encourage media
to not repeat the name of the shooter so as
to deny the shooter. What the shooter wanted. After investigation
into his manifesto, which is notoriety and that is interesting
(18:57):
and we're talking about.
Speaker 10 (18:58):
It, officials say to suspect had a fixation on violent
school shooters and had a deep obsession with wanting to
kill young innocent children. The twenty three year old shooter
was a former student whose mother once worked at the church.
The shooter was born a male, but filed for a
name change at just seventeen years old with parental approval.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
So I wanted you to hear that report.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
That is a Fox Radio news reporter who is and
as far as I am aware, there have been no
directives in any major news organization, certainly none here to
obey that directive.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But it does work.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
You hear her specifically not referring to the name, and
when referencing the mother, not even referencing her name, because
the story is that the mother worked at.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
The school and he attended the school.
Speaker 3 (19:52):
That helps us understand all that's going on here without
using the mother's name, which would be his last name,
and that the individual was fixated on previous shooters with
a specific, horrible and ghoulish focus on hurting children. But
you hear there is an example of how the reporting
(20:16):
would go based on the wishes of the chief of police.
Speaker 10 (20:22):
Officials say that shooter left multiple anti religious references in
his manifesto and written on firearms that manifesto expressing a
deep hatred toward almost all groups and people, including African Americans,
President Trump, and Jewish people.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Yeah, so that does work. I mean that report is
an update. We know more now.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
It doesn't really help, but we're curious about it. And
the name was never used, so it is possible.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Again.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
I kind of agree with Debora Mark, that's fine, we
can limit it, but I don't want to be told
to limit it. I want to have that be a
case by case judgment.
Speaker 11 (21:03):
Call heylu regarding this tragedy that happened and the predictable
Democrat getting on a microphone an hour later and blaming
the gun, Miss Amy Klobsar, Have we determined what gun
to blame? Was it the shotgun, the rifle or the
pistol that we can lay this blame on for this
tragic situation with these kids being killed.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
See if he's gonna stew which gun to blame? Thank you, Yeah,
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
I think that is far more of an egregious act
by lawmakers politicizing the tragic event.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Right, he mentioned Senator Klobachar.
Speaker 3 (21:40):
There are Democrats who really wish to strengthen gun laws
federally that have nothing to do with the weapons used
in this horrible crime. In this specific crime, a rifle
was used, a shotgun was used, and the pistol was used.
So it's ridiculous to blame gun here. Which one do
(22:02):
you want to limit? Which one do you want to outlaw?
What do you want to outlaw all rifles? Okay, well,
you had a shotgun and a pistol. You want to
outlaw the shotgun people hunt in Minnesota?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
You want to outlaw all handguns? He had a rifle
and a shotgun.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
It speaks to the foolishness of blaming the weapon as
the reason.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
But people on the Democrat side just insist on doing it.
Speaker 3 (22:29):
Well, I don't even know if it's Democrats, it's democrats
and anti Second Amendment people. And it was moments after
the reports came out that you had elected Democrats on
social media talking about gun laws, and I think that's horrible.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
That's absolutely horrible.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Even if you want to have a discussion about gun laws,
have it when no horrible events have happened, right, play fair.
Everybody feels bad when children are shot and killed.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
That isn't the right time.
Speaker 3 (23:07):
To start bringing up political agenda and policy ideas with
respect to the Second Amendment. So I find that frankly unbecoming.
And if you're a Democrat with a good idea, and
if you have some idea of a piece of legislation
(23:30):
that could have limited what happened here in Minneapolis, or
limit what would happen what could happen in any of
the shootings that have taken place in the past. If
you got a good idea, you're like, I don't know,
you guys all miss it. All we have to do
is this, and this wouldn't have happened. Even if you're
that person with that good idea, you lost me by
(23:52):
trying to interject your good idea right when people are
still bleeding, so very very bad taste.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Uh and uh all for or not?
Speaker 8 (24:03):
I think it is not necessary for us to hear
what happened across the nation at another state before. Every
state should report on their own problems. Period.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I don't have to know what's happening in New York
or Florida or Arizona, no need.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
So no interstate reporting, only things that go on here
in California.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
I don't know if that's the solution.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
I mean, how will I know if the Cowboys are
trading Michael Parsons to Green Bay?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Like if we only report what.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Happens within the state of California, what if the Dodgers
are on a road trip. I mean, I don't think
you thought that went through. But I appreciate the call,
all right, when we come back. So, Governor Newsom, as
you heard yesterday, has beat up his crime fighting bona
fides by establishing a Sea HP led crime suppression team
(25:03):
that he's dispatching to Los Angeles, but also San Diego,
the Border Division, the Inland Empire, Sacramento, the Bay Area,
San Francisco, and around San Francisco, San Berdandino, Bakersfield, I
mean pretty much everywhere. So it's a statewide effort to
fight crime. He's facing a lot of criticism because people
(25:26):
think that he's just mirror mirror, like mirroring every single
thing that President Trump does. And he actually used the
word mirror. He said, we need to hold a mirror
to this administration in its foolishness. But it seems like
he's doing everything Trump is doing.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Trump is getting high marks for his work in law enforcement.
There's a new poll out at CNN that shows that
this is now Trump's strongest issue. Illegal immigration and immigration
enforcement was his strongest issue coming out of January.
Speaker 1 (26:05):
That was the thing he was going to do, and
everybody gave him high marks. That's now dipped.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
People are not as excited with his handling of immigration
enforcement as they are his handling of Americans committing crimes,
and that he is off the charts in the polling
and that's what's keeping his overall approval ratings up. So
(26:31):
Americans are flattening out on some of the other issues,
Inflation and his handling of the war between Russia and
Ukraine and tariffs, all that stuff kind of flattening out,
going down a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Everyone's not so excited about it. But there are three
I mean, they're doing.
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Cartwheels over his handling of law enforcement, and that's only
happening in DC because that's the only place where he
can have a say over local law on enforcement. So
that's the reason Trump is talking about it. And I'll share
with you the polling them that's coming up next. Lou
Penrose if of John Cobelt on KFI AM six forty
live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on the John Cobelt Show.
Coming up following the News at three, we'll talk with
California State Senator Tony Strickland. He has reaction to Governor
Gavin Newsom's get tough on crime surge of crime suppression,
and the story of Newsom's decision to get tough on
crime in California has made it coast to coast. People
(27:37):
are talking about it in Washington, DC, including President Trump.
Speaker 12 (27:40):
If the governors in competent.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I know Gavin very well, he said in confident with
a good land of bullshit, and he doesn't get the
job at President Trump.
Speaker 13 (27:50):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Letting the expeditives fly.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Uh. These two are just going back and forth, and
I find it fascinating because they they are both very
interesting political animals, very different political animals, but there's something
about them that is there's a there's a very is
a common underscore that they have. Here's Newsome admitting that
(28:16):
he has been trolling President Trump on social media.
Speaker 13 (28:20):
Yes, we're putting a mirror up to the lunacy that
is Trump's tweets in his grift.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
So he's putting a mirror up to it.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
That means he knows that what he is doing, at
least his presence on social media is designed to mimic
and mock Trump. Now I don't think a lot of
people are getting the joke. Like he's like he's posting
in all caps. He's posting in a almost kind of
a staccato verbiage, the way President Trump does.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
He'll make a statement and then just do a one
one word sentence sad and you know you'll lock out
by saying thank you for your attention to this matter.
Speaker 3 (29:03):
And so Newsom's doing that as well, sometimes in all caps,
and it's a bizarre technique. It doesn't really seem to
mock the president. It doesn't get under his skin, which
I think originally was the plan, but it is gaining attention,
and it's causing this kind of back and forth ping
(29:26):
pong ball volley from Sacramento to the West wing and
then back and forth and back and forth.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
And I'm interested to see where this goes.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
So this is from This is interesting, and I hope
you can hear what I hear.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Visually it speaks for itself. But we're here on the radio.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
In twenty eighteen, there was a terrible fire in California
called the Campfire. And President Trump, who had been two
years into his presidency, and I think impeachment was already
already going on, but he was certainly not popular in California,
but nevertheless came to California to lend US support, pledging
federal support, aid all that stuff to the campfire.
Speaker 1 (30:05):
Twenty eighteen. Now it's November of twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3 (30:09):
So Newsom had just been elected governor, and Jerry Well, he's.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Governor elect, and Jerry Brown's governor.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
So the three of them are at like in the
in the mountains where the fire is, at the campfire,
looking over the charred ashes and holding.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
A press conference.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
And here you have President Trump two years into his presidency,
and you have Jerry Brown, who's the outgoing governor, and
this guy named Gavin Newsom, who is the governor elect
who Trump met that very day. And if you the
body language is unbelievably interesting, but you can pretty much
pick it up from just the sound here.
Speaker 13 (30:48):
It is no politics being played here. The President signed
an a mercy declaration immediately. And I cannot impress upon
all the folks here how grateful I am for the
conversations we've had private, non public, and I have to.
Speaker 12 (31:01):
Say the government officials have done an incredible job since
Gavin I've just met, and I've heard terrific things, and
I think we've developed a great relationship.
Speaker 1 (31:09):
We have to work together, all right, to stop Gavin
I just met.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I love that the governor elect of California just meets him,
calls him by his first name, as if he's an intern.
I also noticed, now again I don't know the relationship
at this point. Certainly Newsom was campaigning to be governor
of California on an anti Trump agenda because Trump had
been president for two years beat Hillary Clinton. Every Democrat
(31:35):
hated him. Here he is the newly elected Democrat governor.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
Of the large estate.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
So politically, probably the biggest adversary going next to then
Speaker Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
Who is related to Newsom.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
So everybody is aware in twenty eighteen that there is
there should be no political love laws.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
But the body language was very telling and the language
use very telling.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Listen to Newsom conveying something that I think is important
to point out, and.
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I cannot impress upon all the folks here how grateful
I am for the conversations we've had private, not just public.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
Stop stop stop stop. That's an interesting technique. Politicians use
that often.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
I want you to know we've had conversations public and private. Now,
lou Penrod's rule number four, words matter, and those words matter.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
What is Newsom trying to communicate there? He's trying to communicate.
Speaker 3 (32:35):
Look, you see us here talking to each other at
this press conference. But I want you to know that
we have had secret personal conversations.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
That you're not privy to, and I'm not going to
tell you about. But I want you to know that
we are.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
You know that we have each other's cell phone number,
that we have a connection, We've had private conversations. That's
the reason for saying that, The reason for saying look,
I'm very happy with the President. I want you to
know that I've had conversations with the President private and public.
That's another way of saying I'm in I got a
(33:13):
straight line. I'm personally connected with this guy. Now I
get it. As governor, you want relief money, you want
the federal government on your side, So you want the
people of California to know, Look, I'm right and tight
with the President of the United States.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
One.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
That's one outcome of making that suggestion. But I think
it goes deeper. I think Newsome wants everybody to know
that he and the President of the United States, I
don't Trump, have a connection.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
That's what I believe.
Speaker 13 (33:42):
How grateful I am for the conversations we've had private,
not just public.
Speaker 12 (33:46):
I have to say the government officials have done an
incredible job. And Gavin I've just met, and I've heard
terrific things, and I think we've developed a great relationship.
Speaker 8 (33:55):
We have to work.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Together, all right.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So there's President Trump being magnanimous as he always is.
He can call you all kinds of names and make
fun of you and make up names that are not flattering,
and tweet out things about you.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
But when he sees you in.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
Person, and this important stuff to do, like, you know,
a major fire.
Speaker 1 (34:17):
And a tragedy.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
He's very magnanimous and said, look, Gavin heard good things
about you.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
We got a lot to do. We got to work together.
Speaker 3 (34:25):
Then something else happened and you can't hear it, but
I'm gonna describe.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
What you can hear is the camera's going nuts. So
you got here, you got you got the three.
Speaker 3 (34:34):
Jerry Brown, who means nothing to anybody at this point
because the outgoing Governor Newsom who just got elected governor,
he's governor elect. This is November, and President Trump, who
is being impeached back in DC and is in California,
the home of Nancy Pelosi, but he's there on official
business and.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Sincerely wants to be helpful.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
So he literally extends his hand out to show the
cameras and the reporters that he's gonna shake cans with.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
Gavin, who he just met.
Speaker 3 (35:03):
But he pulls him in, gives him you all slap
on the back routine, come on in here, and you
can hear it in the in the camera clicks.
Speaker 12 (35:11):
A great relationship. We have to work together is a
very big problem, and we have to solve this problem,
and I.
Speaker 13 (35:16):
Know that we're gonna work together.
Speaker 12 (35:17):
I have no I have no dat is We're gonna.
Speaker 13 (35:21):
Get it done.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
There it is. Listen is this come here together?
Speaker 3 (35:24):
I have NOA And that's hear that, hear that. That
is all the clicks from the cameras. New some shaking
hands with Donald Trump, who at that time Nancy Pelosi
is in the process of impeaching. It was classic, and
(35:44):
I think that relationship still exists. So I'm not sure
what exactly they're up to with each other, but I
suspect this volley to go back and forth for quite
some time.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
Now New some tough on crime. We'll talk about it next.
Lou Penrose.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
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