January 17, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (01/17) - LA City Asst. Fire Chief Joe Everett told Pacific Palisades residents that he feels like he failed them last night at a community meeting. More on LA and California's failed decision making process regarding the fires. There are calls for LAFD Chief Kristin Crowley should resign from her position as chief. More on the phony evacuation alerts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can if I am six forty you're listening to the
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two runs of the Moistline in the three o'clock hour.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Also after three point thirty.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Our first hacking of dumpster this year, and we had
a lot of candidates. We probably could have lined up
about a dozen dumpsters, but first things first, we got
the first one ready to go, and I will personally
help out our mob in throwing this official in the dumpster.
Just atrocious leadership on the part of everybody in city
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government right now, from the mayor, most of the city
council except for Tracy Park, the LADWP head, Genie Quinonez,
the fire chief as well. She's starting to admit that
there were screw ups. A lot of people want her
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to resign. I want to start off with a couple
of clips. There was a community meeting in Pacific Palisades
last night. I'm going to play this story by chipiost
from KTLA, where the LA Assistant Fire Chief Joe Everett
told the residents of Pacific Palisades that he feels like
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they failed them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
People who lost everything in the Palisades fire are angry
and frustrated. They lashed out at fire officials at last
night's community meeting held at Sinai Temple in Westwood. They
shouted questions, when can we get access? Why couldn't you
save our community? Why is my home gone? Assistant Fire
Chief Joe Everett, who is a third generation resident of
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Pacific Palisades, apologized.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Extremely extremely hard for me to look you in the
eye knowing that, quite honestly, I feel like I've failed
you to some respect.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Moving on, let's get into business.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There weren't a whole lot of answers provided except for
a description of the firestorm that most people already understand.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I've never seen fire behavior like that in thirty nine years.
This incident is going to go down as the most
destructive fire incident in the history of Los Angeles County.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's chippy os kt LA five report. I want to
isolate the audio of Joe Everett, the LA Assistant Fire Chief,
making the apology and I want to compare it to
a non apology that we are all very aware of
from last week. So played Joe Everett.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Again, extremely extremely hard for me to look you in
the eye knowing that, quite honestly, I feel like I've
failed you dis respect. Moving on, let's get into business.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is she the reaction? Okay? Now?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Karen Bass walking in the airport after her plane from
Ghana landed.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire
department budget by millions of dollars? Not in there? Have
you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to
say to the citizens? Day Elon Mosque says that you're
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utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? Have
you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? You're
dealing with this disaster, no apology for them. Do you
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think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding?
Back home?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
She's still walking, still walking away, stone faced, silent, Adam.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Mayor, Let me ask you just again, have you anything
to say to the citizens today? As you returned?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
They're gonna.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Pull on one.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Second, Madam, marriage just a few words for the citizens
today as you returned to do you pastrophic?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Doesn't that make your blood boil compared to but the
assistant fire chief, Joe Everett said, I don't know whatever
its role was in the decision making process, the strategizing,
but what he said was heartfelt.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was real human That's that's not a human being.
That is.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
A narcissist, sociopath. He's absolutely got no feeling at all.
You imagine not saying a word. And still to this day,
ten days later, she still hasn't apologized for anything. She
still gets all huffy uh when a reporter brings up
her Ghana trip and everything that ensued. She's very brusque
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and abrupt. She tries to avoid the reporters. At the
press conferences, she will be the seventh or eighth speaker
in the list, and even then she just spills out
cliches and platitudes and nonsense. There's one hundred and fifty
two thousand signatures now at change dot org. If you
go to change dot org and put Karen Bass in
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the search box, you'll see a petition. One hundred and
fifty two thousand people want her to resign immediately. We
come back and talk about another character in this Her
name is Kristin Crowley. She was the Los Angeles she
is the Los Angeles Fire Department chief. And I don't
know for how long, but some of the decisions clearly
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were disastrous. The lack of knowledge about the one hundred
and seventeen gallon reservoir that was emptied by the LADWP well,
I mean, if Crowley should have known about that a
year ago and demanded publicly demanded that the thing be refilled,
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I don't know what that breakdown is about. Also, holding
back one thousand firefighters for a second shift and at
least nine engines that they could have deployed in the
Palisades and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Other high risk fire areas.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
She held them back, or lieutenants held them back, and
she didn't overrule them, or didn't know about it. I
don't know. You know, nobody's talking, nobody's telling the truth.
But she was at a meeting and got a lot
of flack. Will tell you about that. Also for every idiot,
and there could be a few in the audience who says, well,
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you know, one hundred mile an hour winds or unpressed
dent has ever happened? You can't in Yeah, well, you
know some people on the internet. The internet's great. One
thing that the internet has is it has huge archives
of newspapers and there's a lot of normal people on
the Internet who goes to the archives. And they used
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quite a few articles from the past about one hundred
mile wind one hundred mile an hour winds in LA
and southern California and big fires that occurred even in January,
so there was nothing unprecedented about it. It actually is
normal business for southern California from say September to January.
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You get one hundred mile an hour wins, you get fires,
and you get this kind of damage. And by now
we should have learned how to mitigate some of this. Instead,
too many people are standing around doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
We'll talk more.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We just played for you a little clip from Fox
from Channel five. Chip Yost went to a Palisades community
meeting where the LA Assistant our chief, Joe Everett, apologized
heartfelt apology, sounded like he was near tears for being
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part of a failure, and the audience there gave him
some applause. You contrasted that with Karen Bass as her
stoneface march through the airport coming off the military plane
fresh from her Ghana vacasion, and to this day, ten
days later, we've had no apology, no sign of any
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human feeling inside of her, no explanation at about a
lot of things, you know, not only why she decided
in that crisis moment to go to Ghana instead of
stay here. Why they allowed that reservoir to be emptied
and never refilled. Why the thousand firefighters and nine the
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nine trucks that were already on duty, already on duty
were not held over for a second shift.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's it to me. I mean, the thing is, to some.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Extent it's hard to talk about because we don't know
what we don't know, and we don't know exactly who
made the decision and the shade of command, and because
they're not talking and explaining why. I think there was
one one fire official said, well, we made the decision
that was appropriate for the time. That is a useless
pilot crap. Well, obviously it was not the appropriate decision.
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It was the wrong decision. And you know, when you
have a responsible job, you're really paid, not for the
normal days, the easy days you're paid for the days
when everything goes to hell and you can't rely on
a handbook, a manual. You can't rely on anything but
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your instinct, your judgment, your experience, and you've got to
be right. It's like in a football game, right and
the quarterbacks got the ball. It's late in the game,
they're on the twenty five yard line. He's got to
throw a touchdown, fourth down, twenty eight seconds left. It
doesn't matter what's in the playbook, it doesn't matter what
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the coaches want, it doesn't matter anything other than you
got to survey the field and make the right decision
and win the game. You have to execute in the moment.
There's no board of appeals to go to if you
screw up. Either do the right thing in the moment
or you fail. And we had too many people when
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they were given that moment here in Los Angeles, they
failed badly, terribly. There was a moment earlier this year
where somebody should have said, fill up the reservoir fire
seasons coming.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Nobody did.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
There was a moment when Karen Bass said, wow, we
got extreme fire warnings, I got an invitation to Ghana.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm not going to go. She went.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Anyway, there was a moment where Kristin Crowley and her
assistant said, it looks like the wind's going to be bad.
We got a thousand guys. Are we going to keep
them on for the second shift? A thousand guys. We
have all these extra engines. We're going to send them
up there because there's a limited number of places where
this kind of fire can happen. For the idiots too, right, well,
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you know, okay, cover the whole city. You don't have
to cover the whole city when they Santa Ana winds blowing.
You have to cover the Santa Monica Mountains on both sides.
That's what you do. And maybe it happens anyway, Maybe
you mitigate a certain percentage, maybe you do some real
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good work, but you got to try. You get paid
to make the right decision in that moment. Now, maybe
the forces are too powerful in the end, maybe they're not.
We're never going to know because they failed in the
decision making process all alone. All along, Bass decided not
to command things here.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You know, we had in charge. You know, it was
the acting there.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And this guy deserves to get some crap too, because
I don't know what he was doing. Marquise Harris Dawson,
You ever heard of him? City councilman, and and you know,
nobody knows who he is, but he's part of the
Wolk Brigade and he was the acting there. He had
the power to do stuff. I don't know what he
did or didn't do. He's got into hiding, he's not speaking.
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And then he had Kristian Crowley had Genez. Well, what
did you guys do in the moment you had the ball?
Time is running out. You have to make You have
to make a right decision.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
One.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I've got a story in the New York Times which
might infuriate you, and I'm going to go into it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
In detail after Debora's news.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But there was a movement to put more women in
charge in the department because there were all these scandals
involving management and fire fighters, sexism scandals, racism scandals, you
know the whole bit, right, And so they decided to
go the DEI diversity routes and get rid of the guys.
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To some extent, they've been pushing for more female firefighters
for a long time, and I think they've gone from
two point nine percent to three point three percent. You know,
so there's only so many women who are going to
want to do this, but they wanted a less of
a male oriented approach to the way the department ran.
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There are also another females, a lot of a number
of females on the Fire Commission as well. And as
you go through this article, you can see what's been
going on in the last few years. The guys were
to stand on the sidelines. You make too much trouble. Well,
now what do we have. We have inexperienced people, people
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who I don't think we're hired for their executive leadership capabilities,
And now what do we have? Tell you about it?
New York Times did an interesting story on it. That's next.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
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Speaker 1 (15:18):
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you doing Sunday morning?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
iHeartRadio is hosting a special California town hall with Governor
Newsom Sunday morning at nine am across iHeartRadio's California stations,
including KFI. Governor Newsom will take questions from Californians who've
been impacted by the fires and discussed plans for the future.
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So tune in to KFI this Sunday morning at nine
o'clock for a special California town hall with Gavin Newsom
on KFI and along all of iHeart Art It's California.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Stations, you can ask some questions.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
John, to this.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Moment, I have not been invited to be a part
of this broadcast, all right. The Los Angeles Fire Chief
Kristin Crowley, nominated, of course by Eric Garcetti, who said
there's no one better equipped to lead the LA Fire
Department at this moment than Kristin. No one, no one.
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She's ready to make history. Wow, that's true. And the
Time says that at the news conference recently, she struggled
to explain why an outgoing shift of about a thousand
firefighters were not ordered to remain at work as a precaution. Also,
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I misspoke before I said there were nine extra engines.
There were forty extra engines. They deployed nine around LA,
but there were forty more, and there were a thousand firefighters,
and they kept the engines in the garage and they
sent the thousand firefighters home. Now she's getting a lot
of criticism from people in the firefighting industry. There was
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January thirteenth letter signed by unnamed retired and active LA
Fire Department chief officers. They listed a host of management
failures and wanted her to resign five page letter. It's
that a large number of chief officers do not believe
you're up to the task. Patrick Butler, former LA Fire
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Assistant Chief who is now chief of Redondo Beach Fire Department.
Patrick Butler said positioning firefighters and equipment near fire zones
in significant numbers, well in advance during periods of high
wildfire danger has long been a key strategy.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Listen to this quote.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It is unfathomable to me how this happened except for
extreme incompetence and no understanding of fire operations.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Wow. I mean that is.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
A complete knockout punch, is it not. And he's got
their credentials. Former LA assistant chief now running his own
department in Medondo and the stuff we've been talking about
all week, sending in the thousand firefighters, positioning the forty
trucks in the foothills around the city, unfathomable how this happened.
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Extreme incompetence, no understanding of fire operations, and this is
what I'm talking about, is like, there is no excuse
for this, There's no reason, there's no you know, we
did extensive analysis and we had a strategy in place,
and no, no, this is just pure We f this
up bad. I froze, I choke, I had my moment
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to throw the pass, and I dropped the ball and
then kicked it downfield.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Somewhere in those conversations, somebody said, hey, maybe you ought
to keep the thousand guys on for an extra shift.
Maybe we want to deploy the forty fire engines. They're
the ones who told us Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
sixth day, knowing about the extreme fire warnings sixth day,
and when the moment hit that morning, well actually before
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the moment hit that morning, we had one thousand extra guys.
They knew Tuesday was going to be bad. The winds
were predictable to some extent. The weather systems were in
place to produce the winds. So here's your moment. You
got the ball in your right arm, right you're looking
for a receiver downfield. Thousand firefighters, they're going to stay
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on for a second shift. Forty engine is going to
go out and to protect the foothills. Uh oh, big fumble.
Uh oh, just kick the ball downfield. Uh oh. The
winds just uh destroyed five thousand homes. The fire destroyed
five thousand homes. The person who runs a fire department
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must make the correct decision. No excuses, no nothing. I
don't think we've gotten to such. This is kind of
a logical place for our society to end up. We have,
for decades now refuse to judge anybody, refuse to demand
excellence and competence.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It allowed everyone to give every kind.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Of kakamami excuse under the planet as to why they failed,
instead of sitting a standard that says, here's what you
must do. You wanted the job. You're being paid a
lot of money. There's tens of thousands of people's lives
and livelihoods and homes that depend on it. You can't
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say later on we had a process and we had
a strategy. No, no, you're paid to have a successful
process and a winning strategy. That's what you're paid for.
But here we go. This is the mindset of some
of those in power. Sharon de Lugatch, member of the
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LA Fire Commission. By the way, you should go to
the LA Fire Commission page and take a look at
this committee. Sharon de lugach Uh thinks that some of
the criticism could reflect sexism and homophobia. Treat because treat
Chief Crowley is the first lesbian to lead the department,
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coming from those unhappy with change. In other words, a woman,
a lesbian woman running things. For the life of me,
these people never quit. I don't know who Sharon Delugatch is.
I don't know why she's on the Fire Commission. That's
the that's the uh, that's the comeback. The comeback isn't
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at least well, it should be a heartfelt apology. But
how about hey, yeah, not sending a thousand firefighters onto
a second shift. Yeah, that has a bad idea. Not
sending out forty extra engines bad idea. That should be
the rational response instead sexism and homophobia.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Is this crap? Ever?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Stop? Nobody, nobody, nobody cares about the whether the fire
chief has male parts or lady parts. Nobody and nobody, nobody,
nobody cares who the chief sleeps with. And what we
pay for is when there is a big fire coming,
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a big windstorm coming, that you send the firefighters and
the fire engines in the places where there's the highest risk,
for God's sakes.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I hope, I said to the other day.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I hope woke politics dies, progressive politics dies in this fire,
and I hope this kind of crap dies. This idea
that you're going to use sexism and homophobia as your
response to legitimate criticism.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I've just flabbergasted.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Here's Rick Crawford, former LA Fire Department battalion chief. He
now is the emergency and Crisis Management coordinator for the
US Capital. I can't speak to why she didn't exercise it,
meaning flooding the zone with firefighters and engines, but it's
a known tactic and it would have doubled the word.
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I'm not saying it would have prevented the fire, or
that the fire wouldn't have gotten out of control, but
she lost a strategic advantage by not telling the offgoing
shift you shall stay and work. The letter, written by
the current and retired officers said, well, no one is
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saying that the fire could have been stopped. There is
no doubt among all of us that if you'd done
things right and prepared the LA Fire Department for an
incident of this magnitude, fatalities would have been reduced, property
would have been saved. And that's the judgment, is that
you would have saved more homes, You would have saved
maybe a few more lives, a thousand firefighters, and if
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they had one hundred million gallons of water and forty
engines would have made a difference somewhere some of the neighborhoods,
some of the homes, and every home saved would have
been a huge victory. But there wasn't one hundred million
gallons of water. There wasn't the forty engines. There wasn't
the firefighters. And it's the fault of Kristin Crowley, the
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fire chief, and Genice Keinoniez, the head of the DWP,
because they they were in charge of making the decisions.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Kenonas was supposed.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
To fill up the reservoir. Crowley had the thousand firefighters,
they were in the buildings, they were they were working already.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Just hey, you're.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Taking an extra shift. Happens all the time. The engines,
at least these these engines actually out, we're operated, we're operating.
There's there's another hundred engines that are in the shop,
and there's no mechanics to fix it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean I and we have people in the fire.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Commission saying, well, this is uh, this is just sexism
and homophobia. I didn't know who this lady was. I
never paid attention to who the fire chief was. I
didn't know she was a lesbian. I didn't know she
was a woman. I didn't know anything about her.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
All I know is.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Five thousand plus buildings burned to the ground in the Palisades,
and they're fixated on your sexual parts and what you
do at two in the morning. I that's the sickness. See,
that is the woke sickness, the woke cult, the obsessive
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fixation on people's sexuality, their fixation on their sexual habits,
their gender parts. Instead of getting a fire chief when
he's got the ball, throws the touchdown and wins the game,
says thousand guys, you're staying on for work. Forty engines,
get out there and Kenonyez should have filled up that
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one hundred and seventeen gallon reservoir ten months ago. That's
what people in charge do successful people. We need to
take charge people here. All right, more coming up.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Coming up at two o'clock. Big news that's going to
affect one hundred and seventy million people. We'll take a
break from the fires for ten minutes. Supreme Court upheld
the law that's going to shut down TikTok. It'll happen
on Sunday. That's the law that passed to Congress easily
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with the support from most in both parties. Biden signed it,
and TikTok went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme
Court said the law is constitutional because it is fighting
the fear that the China is using the app to
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steal Americans private information and data. And TikTok tried to
raise it as a speech the objection is a speech
free speech issue, and Supreme Court said, well, we're not
even going to consider the free speech issue. The government
has a right to ban a foreign country, an adversarial country,
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from using this app to collect information on American citizens.
I don't expect the TikTok crowd to understand that. In fact,
we've got a montage to play for you of crying
TikTokers mostly mostly no not now, not yet coming up
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the next hour, and we're gonna talk about Royal Oaks
from ABC News that legal analysts, and I'll explain this further.
We are going to continue beating, trying to beat the
truth from the government on how this fire was handled.
So we have two important pieces. And it seems, you know,
we we were the first ones, Michael Schellenberger and a
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few others, the first ones to say right in the
heat of the battle, hey, let's let's find out who's
screwed up and how they screwed up. And people are
going no, no, wait until the fires have put out.
It's like no, because by then the files will be deleted,
they'll be shredded. People's memories will get vague, people will
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retire at full pension and move away, and the public
will lose interest after a while. This only this only
affects so much of the city and and so you
have to get it. You have to find out right away.
I never understand people say, well, no, it's just too soon.
You have to wait. It's like, no, this is the
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best time. When when when the people in government are
on their heels and rattled. Now's the time to go
after them because they were lying to you. Here's another story.
Associated Press found that homes were burning and roads were
already jammed when the Pacific Palisades evacuation order finally came.
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This is that emergency command center. I remember that crying
guy who runs the center, guy who was weeping. He
was the one who sent his system sent out three
false evacuation orders around the city. I mean there was
at least one of those orders was sent to everybody
in the city. We were all supposed to evacuate.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Do you know that I got.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Two yesterday on the way home from work to one
two more and they were old. In fact, I sent
a message to the station asking if anybody else did,
and they did not. But I was on the phone
with my friend all of a sudden glaring you know
that noise, Oh that noise, right, And it was two
back to back, and they weren't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It wasn't for my area.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You're getting them for other areas. Yes, But the tone
goes off.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Yes, loud, And it was one right after another. There
were two of them.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They're supposed to send it to the areas well.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
This is this evacuation notice.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
The tone didn't come till forty minutes after some of
those homes were already burning. Forty minutes the wildfire was
spreading rapidly by eleven twenty seven am. Actually it started
more like about ten thirty so many people fled on
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their own that by time the officials issued the order
to evacuate it was twelve oh seven, So that's an
hour and a half after the fire started and forty
minutes after it was spreading through homes. Traffic was already gridlocked.
That's why people had to exit their cars and run away.
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That's why they had to use a bulldozer to clear
away of the abandoned vehicles so the fire crews could
get up there. And all that did was slow things down.
This is why the fire were prepositioned. You wouldn't have
to deal with the fire engines trying to go through
an army of cars that needed to be bull dozed.
Because everybody got the evacuation orders late, some people figured
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it out quick and ran off on their own. Already
the road was clogged. Look, they've had decades and decades,
and they've had thirty years of the internet and all
this technological all these technological breakthroughs to alert us in time,
and now we've had five at least five bum evacuation orders.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There's probably been more.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And then this thing forty minutes late, and the story
from the AP says, yeah, you know, people are starting
to lose faith in this. Well, yeah, of course, why
don't you have faith in a system that gives you
five phony warnings And then the one morning that mattered,
you were forty minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Late on what are people doing?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I mean the whole system, The whole system is busted
from top to bottom. This is the worst government imaginable.
Not only did we have the worst city fire disaster
in American history, but we had the worst government imaginable
at that exact moment. Like I said before, and the
game is on the line, most important game of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Everybody's got to execute. No excuses.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Don't give me homophobia in sexism or whatever other idiotic
religious cult buzzwords you guys use. Crowley was supposed to
send the engines and the firefighters. And I don't know
who the hell is running that warning system, but that
needs that place needs to be dismantled and rebuilt, because
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that's a disaster. That's a bust. You missed at least
six times. We come back. We're going to talk to
Matt Himes. He's a writer and an editor who lost
his Pacific Palisades home. Oh he's at three. Who's coming
on two? Oh, that's right, Matt's gonna come in three.
Royal Oaks is coming in two.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right. The TikTok thing, that's next.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
TikTok going to be banned as a Sunday debormark live
in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been
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two runs of the Moistline in the three o'clock hour.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Also after three point thirty.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Our first hacking of dumpster this year, and we had
a lot of candidates. We probably could have lined up
about a dozen dumpsters, but first things first, we got
the first one ready to go, and I will personally
help out our mob in throwing this official in the dumpster.
Just atrocious leadership on the part of everybody in city
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government right now, from the mayor, most of the city
council except for Tracy Park, the LADWP head, Genie Quinonez,
the fire chief as well. She's starting to admit that
there were screw ups. A lot of people want her
(01:07):
to resign. I want to start off with a couple
of clips. There was a community meeting in Pacific Palisades
last night. I'm going to play this story by chipiost
from KTLA, where the LA Assistant Fire Chief Joe Everett
told the residents of Pacific Palisades that he feels like
(01:30):
they failed them.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
People who lost everything in the Palisades fire are angry
and frustrated. They lashed out at fire officials at last
night's community meeting held at Sinai Temple in Westwood. They
shouted questions, when can we get access? Why couldn't you
save our community? Why is my home gone? Assistant Fire
Chief Joe Everett, who is a third generation resident of
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Pacific Palisades, apologized.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Extremely extremely hard for me to look you in the
eye knowing that, quite honestly, I feel like I've failed
you to some respect.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Moving on, let's get into business.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There weren't a whole lot of answers provided except for
a description of the firestorm that most people already understand.
Speaker 5 (02:33):
I've never seen fire behavior like that in thirty nine years.
This incident is going to go down as the most
destructive fire incident in the history of Los Angeles County.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
That's chippy os kt LA five report. I want to
isolate the audio of Joe Everett, the LA Assistant Fire Chief,
making the apology and I want to compare it to
a non apology that we are all very aware of
from last week. So played Joe Everett.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Again, extremely extremely hard for me to look you in
the eye knowing that, quite honestly, I feel like I've
failed you dis respect. Moving on, let's get into business.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is she the reaction? Okay? Now?
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Karen Bass walking in the airport after her plane from
Ghana landed.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
Do you owe citizens and apology for being absent while
their homes were burning? Do you regret coming the fire
department budget by millions of dollars? Not in there? Have
you nothing to say today? Have you absolutely nothing to
say to the citizens? Day Elon Mosque says that you're
(04:03):
utterly incompetent. Are you considering your position, Madam Mayor? Have
you absolutely nothing to say to the citizens today? You're
dealing with this disaster, no apology for them. Do you
(04:24):
think you should have been visiting Ghana while this was unfolding?
Back home?
Speaker 1 (04:51):
She's still walking, still walking away, stone faced, silent, Adam.
Speaker 6 (04:57):
Mayor, Let me ask you just again, have you anything
to say to the citizens today? As you returned?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
They're gonna.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Pull on one.
Speaker 6 (05:06):
Second, Madam, marriage just a few words for the citizens
today as you returned to do you pastrophic?
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Doesn't that make your blood boil compared to but the
assistant fire chief, Joe Everett said, I don't know whatever
its role was in the decision making process, the strategizing,
but what he said was heartfelt.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It was real human That's that's not a human being.
That is.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
A narcissist, sociopath. He's absolutely got no feeling at all.
You imagine not saying a word. And still to this day,
ten days later, she still hasn't apologized for anything. She
still gets all huffy uh when a reporter brings up
her Ghana trip and everything that ensued. She's very brusque
(06:05):
and abrupt. She tries to avoid the reporters. At the
press conferences, she will be the seventh or eighth speaker
in the list, and even then she just spills out
cliches and platitudes and nonsense. There's one hundred and fifty
two thousand signatures now at change dot org. If you
go to change dot org and put Karen Bass in
(06:26):
the search box, you'll see a petition. One hundred and
fifty two thousand people want her to resign immediately. We
come back and talk about another character in this Her
name is Kristin Crowley. She was the Los Angeles she
is the Los Angeles Fire Department chief. And I don't
know for how long, but some of the decisions clearly
(06:46):
were disastrous. The lack of knowledge about the one hundred
and seventeen gallon reservoir that was emptied by the LADWP well,
I mean, if Crowley should have known about that a
year ago and demanded publicly demanded that the thing be refilled,
(07:08):
I don't know what that breakdown is about. Also, holding
back one thousand firefighters for a second shift and at
least nine engines that they could have deployed in the
Palisades and.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Other high risk fire areas.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
She held them back, or lieutenants held them back, and
she didn't overrule them, or didn't know about it. I
don't know. You know, nobody's talking, nobody's telling the truth.
But she was at a meeting and got a lot
of flack. Will tell you about that. Also for every idiot,
and there could be a few in the audience who says, well,
(07:41):
you know, one hundred mile an hour winds or unpressed
dent has ever happened? You can't in Yeah, well, you
know some people on the internet. The internet's great. One
thing that the internet has is it has huge archives
of newspapers and there's a lot of normal people on
the Internet who goes to the archives. And they used
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quite a few articles from the past about one hundred
mile wind one hundred mile an hour winds in LA
and southern California and big fires that occurred even in January,
so there was nothing unprecedented about it. It actually is
normal business for southern California from say September to January.
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You get one hundred mile an hour wins, you get fires,
and you get this kind of damage. And by now
we should have learned how to mitigate some of this. Instead,
too many people are standing around doing nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
We'll talk more.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
We just played for you a little clip from Fox
from Channel five. Chip Yost went to a Palisades community
meeting where the LA Assistant our chief, Joe Everett, apologized
heartfelt apology, sounded like he was near tears for being
(09:07):
part of a failure, and the audience there gave him
some applause. You contrasted that with Karen Bass as her
stoneface march through the airport coming off the military plane
fresh from her Ghana vacasion, and to this day, ten
days later, we've had no apology, no sign of any
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human feeling inside of her, no explanation at about a
lot of things, you know, not only why she decided
in that crisis moment to go to Ghana instead of
stay here. Why they allowed that reservoir to be emptied
and never refilled. Why the thousand firefighters and nine the
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nine trucks that were already on duty, already on duty
were not held over for a second shift.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's it to me. I mean, the thing is, to some.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Extent it's hard to talk about because we don't know
what we don't know, and we don't know exactly who
made the decision and the shade of command, and because
they're not talking and explaining why. I think there was
one one fire official said, well, we made the decision
that was appropriate for the time. That is a useless
pilot crap. Well, obviously it was not the appropriate decision.
(10:25):
It was the wrong decision. And you know, when you
have a responsible job, you're really paid, not for the
normal days, the easy days you're paid for the days
when everything goes to hell and you can't rely on
a handbook, a manual. You can't rely on anything but
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your instinct, your judgment, your experience, and you've got to
be right. It's like in a football game, right and
the quarterbacks got the ball. It's late in the game,
they're on the twenty five yard line. He's got to
throw a touchdown, fourth down, twenty eight seconds left. It
doesn't matter what's in the playbook, it doesn't matter what
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the coaches want, it doesn't matter anything other than you
got to survey the field and make the right decision
and win the game. You have to execute in the moment.
There's no board of appeals to go to if you
screw up. Either do the right thing in the moment
or you fail. And we had too many people when
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they were given that moment here in Los Angeles, they
failed badly, terribly. There was a moment earlier this year
where somebody should have said, fill up the reservoir fire
seasons coming.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Nobody did.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
There was a moment when Karen Bass said, wow, we
got extreme fire warnings, I got an invitation to Ghana.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm not going to go. She went.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Anyway, there was a moment where Kristin Crowley and her
assistant said, it looks like the wind's going to be bad.
We got a thousand guys. Are we going to keep
them on for the second shift? A thousand guys. We
have all these extra engines. We're going to send them
up there because there's a limited number of places where
this kind of fire can happen. For the idiots too, right, well,
(12:15):
you know, okay, cover the whole city. You don't have
to cover the whole city when they Santa Ana winds blowing.
You have to cover the Santa Monica Mountains on both sides.
That's what you do. And maybe it happens anyway, Maybe
you mitigate a certain percentage, maybe you do some real
(12:35):
good work, but you got to try. You get paid
to make the right decision in that moment. Now, maybe
the forces are too powerful in the end, maybe they're not.
We're never going to know because they failed in the
decision making process all alone. All along, Bass decided not
to command things here.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
You know, we had in charge. You know, it was
the acting there.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
And this guy deserves to get some crap too, because
I don't know what he was doing. Marquise Harris Dawson,
You ever heard of him? City councilman, and and you know,
nobody knows who he is, but he's part of the
Wolk Brigade and he was the acting there. He had
the power to do stuff. I don't know what he
did or didn't do. He's got into hiding, he's not speaking.
(13:23):
And then he had Kristian Crowley had Genez. Well, what
did you guys do in the moment you had the ball?
Time is running out. You have to make You have
to make a right decision.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
One.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I've got a story in the New York Times which
might infuriate you, and I'm going to go into it.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
In detail after Debora's news.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
But there was a movement to put more women in
charge in the department because there were all these scandals
involving management and fire fighters, sexism scandals, racism scandals, you
know the whole bit, right, And so they decided to
go the DEI diversity routes and get rid of the guys.
(14:13):
To some extent, they've been pushing for more female firefighters
for a long time, and I think they've gone from
two point nine percent to three point three percent. You know,
so there's only so many women who are going to
want to do this, but they wanted a less of
a male oriented approach to the way the department ran.
(14:36):
There are also another females, a lot of a number
of females on the Fire Commission as well. And as
you go through this article, you can see what's been
going on in the last few years. The guys were
to stand on the sidelines. You make too much trouble. Well,
now what do we have. We have inexperienced people, people
(14:57):
who I don't think we're hired for their executive leadership capabilities,
And now what do we have? Tell you about it?
New York Times did an interesting story on it. That's next.
Speaker 7 (15:12):
You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
We'round from one until four after four o'clock John Cobelt
Show on demand on the iHeart app. The podcast version
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you doing Sunday morning?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Huh?
Speaker 1 (15:29):
iHeartRadio is hosting a special California town hall with Governor
Newsom Sunday morning at nine am across iHeartRadio's California stations,
including KFI. Governor Newsom will take questions from Californians who've
been impacted by the fires and discussed plans for the future.
(15:49):
So tune in to KFI this Sunday morning at nine
o'clock for a special California town hall with Gavin Newsom
on KFI and along all of iHeart Art It's California.
Speaker 8 (16:00):
Stations, you can ask some questions.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
John, to this.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
Moment, I have not been invited to be a part
of this broadcast, all right. The Los Angeles Fire Chief
Kristin Crowley, nominated, of course by Eric Garcetti, who said
there's no one better equipped to lead the LA Fire
Department at this moment than Kristin. No one, no one.
(16:29):
She's ready to make history. Wow, that's true. And the
Time says that at the news conference recently, she struggled
to explain why an outgoing shift of about a thousand
firefighters were not ordered to remain at work as a precaution. Also,
(16:53):
I misspoke before I said there were nine extra engines.
There were forty extra engines. They deployed nine around LA,
but there were forty more, and there were a thousand firefighters,
and they kept the engines in the garage and they
sent the thousand firefighters home. Now she's getting a lot
of criticism from people in the firefighting industry. There was
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January thirteenth letter signed by unnamed retired and active LA
Fire Department chief officers. They listed a host of management
failures and wanted her to resign five page letter. It's
that a large number of chief officers do not believe
you're up to the task. Patrick Butler, former LA Fire
(17:42):
Assistant Chief who is now chief of Redondo Beach Fire Department.
Patrick Butler said positioning firefighters and equipment near fire zones
in significant numbers, well in advance during periods of high
wildfire danger has long been a key strategy.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Listen to this quote.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
It is unfathomable to me how this happened except for
extreme incompetence and no understanding of fire operations.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
Wow. I mean that is.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
A complete knockout punch, is it not. And he's got
their credentials. Former LA assistant chief now running his own
department in Medondo and the stuff we've been talking about
all week, sending in the thousand firefighters, positioning the forty
trucks in the foothills around the city, unfathomable how this happened.
(18:39):
Extreme incompetence, no understanding of fire operations, and this is
what I'm talking about, is like, there is no excuse
for this, There's no reason, there's no you know, we
did extensive analysis and we had a strategy in place,
and no, no, this is just pure We f this
up bad. I froze, I choke, I had my moment
(19:01):
to throw the pass, and I dropped the ball and
then kicked it downfield.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
That's what happened.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Somewhere in those conversations, somebody said, hey, maybe you ought
to keep the thousand guys on for an extra shift.
Maybe we want to deploy the forty fire engines. They're
the ones who told us Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
sixth day, knowing about the extreme fire warnings sixth day,
and when the moment hit that morning, well actually before
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the moment hit that morning, we had one thousand extra guys.
They knew Tuesday was going to be bad. The winds
were predictable to some extent. The weather systems were in
place to produce the winds. So here's your moment. You
got the ball in your right arm, right you're looking
for a receiver downfield. Thousand firefighters, they're going to stay
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on for a second shift. Forty engine is going to
go out and to protect the foothills. Uh oh, big fumble.
Uh oh, just kick the ball downfield. Uh oh. The
winds just uh destroyed five thousand homes. The fire destroyed
five thousand homes. The person who runs a fire department
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must make the correct decision. No excuses, no nothing. I
don't think we've gotten to such. This is kind of
a logical place for our society to end up. We have,
for decades now refuse to judge anybody, refuse to demand
excellence and competence.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
It allowed everyone to give every kind.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
Of kakamami excuse under the planet as to why they failed,
instead of sitting a standard that says, here's what you
must do. You wanted the job. You're being paid a
lot of money. There's tens of thousands of people's lives
and livelihoods and homes that depend on it. You can't
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say later on we had a process and we had
a strategy. No, no, you're paid to have a successful
process and a winning strategy. That's what you're paid for.
But here we go. This is the mindset of some
of those in power. Sharon de Lugatch, member of the
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LA Fire Commission. By the way, you should go to
the LA Fire Commission page and take a look at
this committee. Sharon de lugach Uh thinks that some of
the criticism could reflect sexism and homophobia. Treat because treat
Chief Crowley is the first lesbian to lead the department,
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coming from those unhappy with change. In other words, a woman,
a lesbian woman running things. For the life of me,
these people never quit. I don't know who Sharon Delugatch is.
I don't know why she's on the Fire Commission. That's
the that's the uh, that's the comeback. The comeback isn't
(22:19):
at least well, it should be a heartfelt apology. But
how about hey, yeah, not sending a thousand firefighters onto
a second shift. Yeah, that has a bad idea. Not
sending out forty extra engines bad idea. That should be
the rational response instead sexism and homophobia.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
Is this crap? Ever?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Stop? Nobody, nobody, nobody cares about the whether the fire
chief has male parts or lady parts. Nobody and nobody, nobody,
nobody cares who the chief sleeps with. And what we
pay for is when there is a big fire coming,
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a big windstorm coming, that you send the firefighters and
the fire engines in the places where there's the highest risk,
for God's sakes.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
I hope, I said to the other day.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
I hope woke politics dies, progressive politics dies in this fire,
and I hope this kind of crap dies. This idea
that you're going to use sexism and homophobia as your
response to legitimate criticism.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
I've just flabbergasted.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Here's Rick Crawford, former LA Fire Department battalion chief. He
now is the emergency and Crisis Management coordinator for the
US Capital. I can't speak to why she didn't exercise it,
meaning flooding the zone with firefighters and engines, but it's
a known tactic and it would have doubled the word.
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I'm not saying it would have prevented the fire, or
that the fire wouldn't have gotten out of control, but
she lost a strategic advantage by not telling the offgoing
shift you shall stay and work. The letter, written by
the current and retired officers said, well, no one is
(24:21):
saying that the fire could have been stopped. There is
no doubt among all of us that if you'd done
things right and prepared the LA Fire Department for an
incident of this magnitude, fatalities would have been reduced, property
would have been saved. And that's the judgment, is that
you would have saved more homes, You would have saved
maybe a few more lives, a thousand firefighters, and if
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they had one hundred million gallons of water and forty
engines would have made a difference somewhere some of the neighborhoods,
some of the homes, and every home saved would have
been a huge victory. But there wasn't one hundred million
gallons of water. There wasn't the forty engines. There wasn't
the firefighters. And it's the fault of Kristin Crowley, the
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fire chief, and Genice Keinoniez, the head of the DWP,
because they they were in charge of making the decisions.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Kenonas was supposed.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
To fill up the reservoir. Crowley had the thousand firefighters,
they were in the buildings, they were they were working already.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Just hey, you're.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
Taking an extra shift. Happens all the time. The engines,
at least these these engines actually out, we're operated, we're operating.
There's there's another hundred engines that are in the shop,
and there's no mechanics to fix it.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean I and we have people in the fire.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Commission saying, well, this is uh, this is just sexism
and homophobia. I didn't know who this lady was. I
never paid attention to who the fire chief was. I
didn't know she was a lesbian. I didn't know she
was a woman. I didn't know anything about her.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
All I know is.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Five thousand plus buildings burned to the ground in the Palisades,
and they're fixated on your sexual parts and what you
do at two in the morning. I that's the sickness. See,
that is the woke sickness, the woke cult, the obsessive
(26:35):
fixation on people's sexuality, their fixation on their sexual habits,
their gender parts. Instead of getting a fire chief when
he's got the ball, throws the touchdown and wins the game,
says thousand guys, you're staying on for work. Forty engines,
get out there and Kenonyez should have filled up that
(26:57):
one hundred and seventeen gallon reservoir ten months ago. That's
what people in charge do successful people. We need to
take charge people here. All right, more coming up.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Coming up at two o'clock. Big news that's going to
affect one hundred and seventy million people. We'll take a
break from the fires for ten minutes. Supreme Court upheld
the law that's going to shut down TikTok. It'll happen
on Sunday. That's the law that passed to Congress easily
(27:40):
with the support from most in both parties. Biden signed it,
and TikTok went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme
Court said the law is constitutional because it is fighting
the fear that the China is using the app to
(28:01):
steal Americans private information and data. And TikTok tried to
raise it as a speech the objection is a speech
free speech issue, and Supreme Court said, well, we're not
even going to consider the free speech issue. The government
has a right to ban a foreign country, an adversarial country,
(28:23):
from using this app to collect information on American citizens.
I don't expect the TikTok crowd to understand that. In fact,
we've got a montage to play for you of crying
TikTokers mostly mostly no not now, not yet coming up
(28:44):
the next hour, and we're gonna talk about Royal Oaks
from ABC News that legal analysts, and I'll explain this further.
We are going to continue beating, trying to beat the
truth from the government on how this fire was handled.
So we have two important pieces. And it seems, you know,
we we were the first ones, Michael Schellenberger and a
(29:04):
few others, the first ones to say right in the
heat of the battle, hey, let's let's find out who's
screwed up and how they screwed up. And people are
going no, no, wait until the fires have put out.
It's like no, because by then the files will be deleted,
they'll be shredded. People's memories will get vague, people will
(29:26):
retire at full pension and move away, and the public
will lose interest after a while. This only this only
affects so much of the city and and so you
have to get it. You have to find out right away.
I never understand people say, well, no, it's just too soon.
You have to wait. It's like, no, this is the
(29:48):
best time. When when when the people in government are
on their heels and rattled. Now's the time to go
after them because they were lying to you. Here's another story.
Associated Press found that homes were burning and roads were
already jammed when the Pacific Palisades evacuation order finally came.
(30:11):
This is that emergency command center. I remember that crying
guy who runs the center, guy who was weeping. He
was the one who sent his system sent out three
false evacuation orders around the city. I mean there was
at least one of those orders was sent to everybody
in the city. We were all supposed to evacuate.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Do you know that I got.
Speaker 8 (30:29):
Two yesterday on the way home from work to one
two more and they were old. In fact, I sent
a message to the station asking if anybody else did,
and they did not. But I was on the phone
with my friend all of a sudden glaring you know
that noise, Oh that noise, right, And it was two
back to back, and they weren't.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
It wasn't for my area.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
You're getting them for other areas. Yes, But the tone
goes off.
Speaker 8 (30:54):
Yes, loud, And it was one right after another. There
were two of them.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
They're supposed to send it to the areas well.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
This is this evacuation notice.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
The tone didn't come till forty minutes after some of
those homes were already burning. Forty minutes the wildfire was
spreading rapidly by eleven twenty seven am. Actually it started
more like about ten thirty so many people fled on
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their own that by time the officials issued the order
to evacuate it was twelve oh seven, So that's an
hour and a half after the fire started and forty
minutes after it was spreading through homes. Traffic was already gridlocked.
That's why people had to exit their cars and run away.
(31:50):
That's why they had to use a bulldozer to clear
away of the abandoned vehicles so the fire crews could
get up there. And all that did was slow things down.
This is why the fire were prepositioned. You wouldn't have
to deal with the fire engines trying to go through
an army of cars that needed to be bull dozed.
Because everybody got the evacuation orders late, some people figured
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it out quick and ran off on their own. Already
the road was clogged. Look, they've had decades and decades,
and they've had thirty years of the internet and all
this technological all these technological breakthroughs to alert us in time,
and now we've had five at least five bum evacuation orders.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There's probably been more.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
And then this thing forty minutes late, and the story
from the AP says, yeah, you know, people are starting
to lose faith in this. Well, yeah, of course, why
don't you have faith in a system that gives you
five phony warnings And then the one morning that mattered,
you were forty minutes.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Late on what are people doing?
Speaker 1 (33:02):
I mean the whole system, The whole system is busted
from top to bottom. This is the worst government imaginable.
Not only did we have the worst city fire disaster
in American history, but we had the worst government imaginable
at that exact moment. Like I said before, and the
game is on the line, most important game of the year.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Everybody's got to execute. No excuses.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Don't give me homophobia in sexism or whatever other idiotic
religious cult buzzwords you guys use. Crowley was supposed to
send the engines and the firefighters. And I don't know
who the hell is running that warning system, but that
needs that place needs to be dismantled and rebuilt, because
(33:52):
that's a disaster. That's a bust. You missed at least
six times. We come back. We're going to talk to
Matt Himes. He's a writer and an editor who lost
his Pacific Palisades home. Oh he's at three. Who's coming
on two? Oh, that's right, Matt's gonna come in three.
Royal Oaks is coming in two.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Right. The TikTok thing, that's next.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
TikTok going to be banned as a Sunday debormark live
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