January 22, 2025 • 32 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (01/22) - Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about Eaton Fire victims saying they didn't receive emergency evacuation alerts and also has the latest on the Hughes Fire burning near Castaic Lake. More on the faulty warning system. More on the Hughes Fire burning near Castaic Lake.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
On the iheut radio app if you want to rail
away about all the city and county incompetence when it
comes to the fire response. And today we've got another
huge fire, the Hues Fire in the Staic area, which
if you don't know, is part of La County, and
we're going to be deling into La County's evacuation warning
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failures in just a moment with Alex Stone. But this
fire is burning over five thousand acres and this thing
exploded five thousand acres in less than two hours, so
I imagine it could be a lot more than five
thousand right now. They're attacking it quite a bit from
the air to the two county super Scoopers are being used,
not so much on the ground because the terrain is
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very difficult to deal with. There are a lot of
homes in jeopardy. In fact, they show video now on
Fox eleven where there's a lot of people running. It
looks like they're in might be a school building. I
know people are evacuating.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well School, Mystic High School.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They're showing the crowds of kids and administrators and teachers
all crowded on the stairs and in the courtyards and
running down the street because depending which way you point
the camera, the sky is orange and yellow and brown
and black from the fire and the smoke.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
KTLA is reporting nineteen thousand people have been evacuated so far.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Nineteen thousand instaic and they I mean, that's most of
the population. I'm just looking on Wikipedia. They have a
twenty ten census number of nineteen thousand. Nearly the whole
town has run out. We will Debra's on the case there.
(02:06):
Michael Monks in the KFI newsroom is on the case.
Alex Stone is with us from ABC News to talk
about this really shocking and disgusting story. La County sent
out evacuation warnings up to eight to nine hours late
to western Alta Dina, where most of the deaths happened
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in that Eaton fire. Let's get alex on. Yeah, John,
some of them were late or not at all real quickly.
On the Hughes fire. It's going thirty acres a minute
right now, is the calculation that we just got. And
we just talked to La County Fire and they say
they're letting it push into Castaic Lake, that that is
the best thing that they can do. They cannot get
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out in front of it. They don't know of anything
on the western side of the lake that has burned,
and that's going to be their objective here to make
sure it doesn't jump the lake, but that they want
to push into the lake, use that as a natural
barrier and then begin to work the flanks of it.
That they're really focusing on right now, but on the
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the eas alerts of the Outadena fires. So we all
know there were a lot of problems with the emergency alerts,
the ones that go off on your cell phone during
these fires, and some people just have them turned off.
You got to make sure the yours is on. Others
turned them off because they got annoyed by them. But
the bigger issue has been that people who live on
the western side of Altadena. They say they never got
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them at all. That there is are turned on that's
where the deaths were, west of Lake Avenue, and people
live there say the alerts never came, or they came
eight or nine hours late. This is what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I'm very disappointed and angry about it because I feel
like had we gotten evacuation official notification, we would have
acted faster.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
She says she never got in order to evacuate. Eventually,
she grabbed what she could, got out on her own,
came back and her home had burned to the ground,
but never got an order in any form. Nobody banged
on the door the morning that that area of Altadena
on that Wednesday morning that those homes burned down, never
had an alert go off.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This guy the same thing. It's disappointing. Look, the fire
was moving so quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't know what their resources were, I don't know
what their challenges were, but you know, we certainly didn't
have the notice. Now, The La Times says he reviewed
a bunch of records that the many homes in those
deadliest areas never received any kind of an evacuation order. Then,
on the opposite side, we all know John that at
one point, all ten million people in La County got
that alert telling everybody to evacuate and that there was
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a fire near them, and that was a mistake and
they had to resend that one. And this is the
guy at the Emergency Operations Center for the county who
runs those alerts to go out, and he had.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
To say, I can't express enough how sorry I am
for this experience.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And he said the mistake and alerts were a technical
glitch that went out to everybody. He said it wasn't
even humans doing it, which didn't really make any sense.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So in the computers, that doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So the computers were doing this on their own sending
it out to everybody in La County. As these alerts
are being issued, they are not being activated or initiated
by a person.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So okay, So they got to look into that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh, why don't they have a person reviewing it right
before they go out? And you have to assume that
when they are supposed to go out, that a human
is righting what is going to be in there.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, but back to the ones that didn't go out
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So now La County Supervisor Catherine Barber, she is the
one leading the charge for an investigation, and she is
pushing it forward, says that there will be a third
party investigation. She's getting a lot of support from the
supervisors where they want to know why didn't the alerts
go off? Was it a cell tower issue, was it
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somebody clicked the wrong zone? Was it a technical thing?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
They don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It's important for us to gather all the back so
that we have a complete picture of what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And I make you this promise that is going to
be my priority. Aready moving forward.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And today the sheriff reminded everybody that alert or not
that his deputies did and credit to them that they
saved a lot of lives by banging on doors getting
elderly people out.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
We know they did a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He does want investigation, He says he wants to know
what was going on with the alerts, but that he
doesn't want it lost. That his deputies were heroes in this,
and that they went into the flames and they pulled
people out.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
Looking at their faces, a lot of them looking into
their eyes with tears in their eyes, because all of
them at times felt helpless because of the weather conditions,
because they wanted to save everybody's life.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And so there is going to be an investigation now
into the wireless emergency alerts and a lot they have
to learn. It seems like we don't know how to
send them out appropriately or at all in a major emergency,
and they got to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
This is just stunning.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
For all the money we pay in taxes, I don't
think an emergency alert system that works properly is a
lot to ask, you know, I mean, I think the
lesson here is that if you are in to Stay
or Lake Piru right now, or we just got a
notification moment ago in northern parts of Santa Clarita underwarning now,
then when you're underwarning, get out of there. And this
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is a good example of that. Nobody may come bang
on your door. You may not get an emergency alert.
Don't wait for that. If you can see the smoke
and you think it's heading your way, and whether it
be this or any fire, you feel like you're in danger,
just go because you may not. As we learned an
outa Dina and in Lahina, and in Santa Rosa and
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in Paradise, no warning may come, especially in the middle
of the night. No warning may come, so you got
to save yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it's just use your senses like forest animals. Do
you hear something, you smell something, you see something, get out,
get out of the way.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Go right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, and on the huge fire and everybody on the
five is seeing it, while everybody everywhere is seeing it
right now. But the hope is going to be that
they can keep it on the eastern side of Castaic Lake.
And again they're letting it push into the lake. They
don't see any slop over, any starts on the other side,
and so we hope it works. They're trying to contain
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it into the lake. You know how close to the
other side of the lake are homes pretty close When
you go into the entrance to Castaic Lake, there are
homes right there, and then you've got right the freeway
is not far away, and there's like a McDonald's and
I've been checking the box and everything else times.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And driven by there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But there are there are a lot I could see
now from the helicopter there are a lot of homes
clustered together. Yeah, and the numbers that we have I
think it is, yeah, nineteen thousand under mandatory evacuation twelve
thousand is going back sixteen thousand under a warning right now,
going all the way into Ventura County as it's pushing.
It is pushing due west in these Santa Ana wins
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right now, so folks in Stevenson Ranch and most of
Santa Clarita that is not under threat because it's not
moving except for in the fringes of far northern Santa Clarita.
It's not moving south. It is going dead with the
wind in the the west. And again the objective being
let it burn on its own into the lake, and
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then they have to deal with the flanks of it,
the sides of it where they're really hitting that hard
right now with the heavy air tankers, with the super scoopers,
with the helicopters, and then contain that from the sides.
But hopefully it works and it doesn't jump over the
lake all right, Thanks very much, Alex Stone, ABC News
reporting for KF five. There's a high wind warning in
effect for the Castaic area and much of northwest Los
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Angeles County. Thirty to forty mile per hour winds coming
from the northeast. It's pulling from the northeast to the southwest.
The gusts fifty to sixty miles an hour, and that's
going to go on this afternoon tonight all the way
to tomorrow afternoon. So you're looking about twenty four hours
of this kind of wind and a tremendous fire going
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on right now near Castaic Lake. And we'll bring you
more when we come back. There's more to add to
what Alex reported on. The La Times did a story
and we got to talk about this government because this
government is failing over.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And over and over again.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But the La City and the La County government is
the Actually the City Council and the Board of Supervisors
should be declared individual disaster areas because it is. It
is shocking how many fallops there have been, just with
the Emergency Management Center and and and these these evacuation warnings.
(10:33):
I wouldn't I wouldn't count on an accurate evacuation warning
or earthquake warning when it comes time.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
For I told you last week when I was driving
home from work, I got two evacuation warnings. I was
on the phone with a friend and I flipped out
and I looked on I looked at the alert and
they were old. But that you know, loud booming noise.
The alert was was it happened?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Old Who did the software for the county? What kind
of a who's brother in law got that contract. We'll
talk about all this, but that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Does make me worry about the earthquake app.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well, of course, I mean, you just can't trust anything.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
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Speaker 2 (11:18):
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and I talked for about forty minutes about the previous
(11:38):
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Speaker 1 (11:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I wanted to get into the details about follow up
on Alex Stones report on the fire in Alta Dina,
West Altadena, where there was there were no warnings, no
evacuation warnings for many neighborhoods. Fire broke out in the
sixth seven o'clock hour and on that on January seventh,
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and people did not get their warnings until three thirty
in the morning. You can believe this. We're talking eight
nine hours and I will get to that. But I
came across this story in California Globe. Instead of our
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legislators making sure that our fire departments, our police departments
are fully funded, that all the brush is cleared, that
the electrical lines are put underground, that the evacuation warning
systems work, listen to what they were doing. In Sacramento
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on Tuesday evening, a group of California legislators glitting, some
from the LA area, gathered on the west steps of
the State Cappital to hold a healing circle in response
to Trump's immigration policies. This is according to Capital reporter
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Eton Wallace, prayers, remarks and candlelight and warm milk, crayons
and stuffed animals. This is what the legislators are doing
this week. Several lawmakers who spoke promised to introduce legislation.
(13:30):
They say we'll protect immigrants regardless of immigration status. What
they're doing right now is arresting criminal illegal aliens, many
of them violent felons. And this milk, crayons and stuffed
animals crowd objects to that. Here are some of the idiots.
(13:50):
Assemblyman Mike Gibson from Carson says, now more than ever,
we must come to organize and show this president that
we're not backing down. Alex Lee from San Jose said,
the California legislature will be there for our immigrant community.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Is there anybody for US taxpayers?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Like when fire breaks out in West Altadan, is there
anybody there to wake up the residents because seventeen died,
partly because the evacuation warning system is broken. Senator Susan
Rubio shared her story of deportation from when she was
a child.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
What can you say here?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And here's a photo of them standing on the steps, one, two, three, four,
nine of them, and they have all these candles set up.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And the thing is a lot of.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
These people represent districts where the crime is the worst,
and yet here you have the federal go They won't.
They won't arrest the criminals here or put them in jail.
When they get out of jail, they will turn them
over to Ice to deport them. So they're runming around free.
Here come the Feds to do the job that the
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local politicians ought to do in local law enforcement, but
they won't let law enforcement do it. They won't allow sentencing.
It keeps these monsters in jail. So here come the
Feds to basically bail out these neighborhoods. Candlelight vigil. All right,
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we come back, get into this the rest of this story.
In the Alta, Dina and.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I found that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Legislator story because I want to get a list of
the names of the people on the the La County
Board of Supervisors. Hey, and you should know them because
the sport Is supervisor Catherine Barger is the only one
who's semi saying. The rest of them are completely utterly
out of their minds, and they have an emergency system
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that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
It's been broken that we know of, right ever since
January sixth and the Palisades fire out to Dina fire,
I don't know how it's working for static, but I
wouldn't wait for you for your phone to buzz. I
would just get out of astaic that whole region. Just
just look outside, sniff the do like the animals do.
(16:40):
We have to revert to our primitive ways because you
can't trust the technology that La County has. It's all
a big fail.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
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six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We're on every day from one until four, and then
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demand on the iHeart app to listen to what you missed.
All right, so here's final Let me get to the
story on what happened in Altadena, because Altadena has been
shortchanged when it comes to coverage on these fires. And
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seventeen people died. They all lived in an area west
of Lake Avenue, and even though the fire was first
seen in the six o'clock hour on Tuesday of the seventh,
it wasn't until three am that an evacuation notice came
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in over people's phones. Middle of the night, many people
have their phones turned off or their notifications turned to silent.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The fire was eight nine hours earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They all lived in the area west of Lake Avenue,
seven hours after other orders went out to neighborhoods closer
to the fire starting points. Hours after the fire, officials
had gotten reports that houses in the area were burning,
but they never heard from officials that they needed to
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get out. Nobody told them. Among the dead was Dalise Curry,
ninety five years old. Her granddaughter dropped her off at
midnight at home three blocks away. Anthony Mitchell and his
son Justin called for help evacuating at five in the morning.
They both died when the flames consumed their home. Diane Leeb,
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another resident, she knew something bad was coming. Winds were howling,
the power had gone out, but that had happened a
number of times before, and she had lit some candles
in the living room with her twin six year old daughters.
Her husband comes in and says, Diana, you need to
look in the backyard right now. Outside a wall of
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fire was bearing down in their homes. It was seven
oh six pm when they could see the fire in
their backyard. You know what time their phones finally buzzed
with a warning, three twenty five am, eight and a
half hours later.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Eight and a half hours after they evacuated, they got
the evacuation warning.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
You know, we haven't really heard any updates, you know,
with that guy after he apologized right for the mistake,
I'd like to know what he's doing, What has he
done to fix the problem.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I mean, what it's been a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He's probably still crying.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He didn't sound like the guy that was going to
fix things. Now this is going to sound stupid, but
here's how I how I think they should. They should
do this right. They've got their algorithms to send out warnings.
I look at Firewatch right and they have broken up.
I guess you're using a government source. Every neighborhood has
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assigned its own code. You know, it'll say like g
x ES four.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Confusing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's very confusing.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And when and when the county or the city issues
an evacuation warning to a number of neighborhoods, it's a
long list of these codes. But the codes, there's there's
no key to explain what the what what neighborhoods The codes.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Are connected, so you need the Genesis app for that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
That's what I figured out. So you could get the
code on Firewatch, but the c you need Genesis to
attach the code to the exact streets.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yes, because you put your address in there and a boom,
it tells you the code.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It took me three days to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Oh, you should have asked me.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I figured, well, I didn't figure it out. Somebody told
me a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know, I don't know what to ask.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean, that's something that's like I didn't know about
this Genesis app code.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
The code thing was just very frustrating.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I don't remember anybody in government telling people to
use Firewatch and to do Genesis.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's the thing. I don't remember that watching watching the
TV newscast.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
I never really knew about watching the watch Judy app
or Genesis until weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, Watch Duty is actually the name of it. So
but all right, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
If I book an airline flight right, I very carefully
look at the right day, right date, right time. It's
leaving from the right city, landing in the right place.
The return flight is the same thing. And then if
I'm sitting with my wife or if I'm booking this
for my son, I will say out loud, Okay, we
are leaving Los Angeles on May the eighth. We are
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arriving in Tampa. You know at five twenty five we
are returning on May seventeenth, leaving Tampa and landing in
Los Angeles. I'm really specific, and I say this out
loud before I hit send, before I hit purchase, to
make sure I got it right. I look at it
three times and then I clear it with somebody else.
If somebody else is around this crying guy over at
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the emergency management center before they send out the order,
does anybody stand in the room and say, okay, we're
sending out evacuation notices to QX four O seven that's Brentwood.
Uh you know XCEL three two five three that's Woodland
Hills or a specific part of Woodland Hills.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right, right, that's what you do.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You have a human being somebody else saying yes, that's right, yes,
to go through a checklist, and then they say okay,
press send and then a human press is sin?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What is it with?
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Well, it does it on its own. There's no human involved.
Well what the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No, that needs to be fixed, that needs to be changed.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You got bad wiring, bad software, bad programming, bad something
is going on there. So you just allow it and
this one on for days. Like you said, you just
got one over the weekend last week. Last week it
was a Friday.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm driving home, so almost a week ago.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right, but that's ten days after the original fire, Cizzar.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So who in county government thinks this is a good idea?
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
You know?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
They talk about I was at a community meeting last night,
which I'm not going to get into right now because
there's a semi private meeting, but they talked about how
they're going to have investigations after action reports this and that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Do you need to do.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
An investigation to sit down the crying guy and say,
why don't you personally review each evacuation noticed before the
supercomputer sends it out.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Well, Katherine Barger, supervisor Katheryne Barger, did say that they
are going to investigate those erroneous notifications. But Okay, well,
when is that going to happen? And it probably should
have been fixed.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
By now Here's yeah, but as a Friday it wasn't.
You were still getting And I'd like to hear if
there's any any Castaic problems. By the way, the Castaic
fire along the roadway, I'm looking at Fox eleven.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Wow, it is a massive fire.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, more than five thousand acres.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Look at yeah, and it's it's all along the road.
I don't know what road that is. That is a
spectacular video there and they've got some firefighters and police
standing on the side of the road watching the fire.
It is a long, long trail of flames along the
hills and Kassak and there's a lot of thick smoke
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blotting out the sky.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Wow, really does look like hell.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I mean the air.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Quality in southern California. I mean, how are we ever
going to get over this?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
The Pitch's Detention Center is evacuating inmates.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Oh that's good, Well just let them out, right, any
volunteer firefighters in that bunch.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I was gonna say, can they do a quick check?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Instead of letting them out? Why don't they? Why don't they?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Yeah, because there are inmates that were working in the US.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Let him stand there here, you figure it out. You're
on parole. So I'm looking. So these are the supervisors
and you probably don't know their names.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
We have a really really fed up system of government
here because we have five supervisors and they each represent
almost two million people.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And that's the government in La now.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I apparently there was a vote on the ballot November
to introduce the concept of a county executive. But I
don't know what with the relationship he's going to have
with the board of supervisors. I mean, he's like the
business guy to execute the business of the county.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And he's elected.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But the way you have an Assembly and a state
Senate and then a governor right to ratify a law,
or you have a House of Representative as a Senate
and a president. We've never had like a single figure
who could take responsibility and sift through the nonsense that
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the county passes. We've got Hilda Salase, she worked in
the Obama administration and was a congresswoman. Holly Mitchell, she
was a state senator and she was a legislative advocate.
Lindsey Horvath was West Hollywood City Council and mayor. Janis
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Hahn was in Congress for five years and then the
city council for ten years. Actually reversed and now she's
a supervisor. Han Horvath, Mitchell and Solise are nuts. The
four of them are nuts, and there's nobody to override
their decisions.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
There's no.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Governor, there's no president, there's no executive chief to say,
you people are crazy with the stuff you spend money on.
Catherine Parker is a normal person. But that emergency Management
center has to be completely completely bolded.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I don't know why it hasn't.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
I mean, we've been dealing with this for you know,
two weeks seventy people.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Died out to Dina. All right, we got more.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Coming up right after three o'clock. Tom McClintock, the Northern
California congressman, who's an old friend of the show. We've
had him on for many, many years, and he's going
to talk about all huge changes coming to Washington with
the Trump administration. By the way, the federal DEI office
died about fifty five minutes ago at two o'clock. DEI
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is dead. Office is closed. Everybody goes home. They're on
administrative leave, and then they get fired.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
The Lake Hughes, the Hughes fire rather is burning now
along Lake Hughes Road. That was the road that I
was talking about a few minutes ago, which had flames
snaking alongside the length of the road as far as
the camera could see, and you had firefighters standing in
the on the road watching to see what was going
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to happen there. Also, Channel four is reporting the Castaic
Middle and elementary schools have been evacuated. The students are
going to the routs at Halsey Canyon, and CBS is
saying that CHP is working to close the southbound five
at Grapevine Road. Five Freeway is set to close from.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Grapevine to six.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
This fire is about as out of control as you're
going to ever see a fire. I'm looking at the
humidity for the next twenty four hours. Humidity is going
to be down here in Burbank to three percent. I
don't think I've ever seen a number that long my life.
Pasadena four percent. And that's what's drying out the vegetation
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so that it's turned all the vegetation into kindling. I mean,
there's not a drop of moisture in these plants anymore.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
But then, yet, it's gonna rain this weekend. Yeah, you
can't rain today.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's gonna do a lot of damage. I mean it's
only Wednesday. I don't think the first rain is till Saturday, right.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Saturday and Sunday and possibly Monday.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So then is it real rain against an inch?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
A yeah, all right?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Because I saw that it was like fifty to fifty
chance of a quarter of an inch of rain, so
it seemed like it would be light and scattered and not.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
I mean it might be scattered, but I mean it
would be better if it's scattered, because if it just
starts pouring, if right, then we're gonna have the mudflow.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
We're gonna have the mud slides and the debris.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You want enough to tamp down them, exactly, but you
don't want enough that would start the big mud slides.
And they're releasing, not releasing, but they're evacuating the Pitcher's prison.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, now we're going to have criminals roaming around.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I know, Well, what do you think is going to
happen with the competency of all of the state government,
county government, city government, what do.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You think is going to happen?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
They're going to lose track of some of the prisoners
and they're just going to run off into the wildfire,
into the hills. Complete breakdown of government. And I don't
think I don't think anybody's even trying to make a
case otherwise. There are some people who are saying, well, well,
let's just weigh it's no that is that is the
(30:35):
potted plant brigade. That's what I call people who when
they go to meetings or they're on zoom calls, well,
you know, let's just see what happens. You know, they're
doing the best they can. There's so many people who
reflexibly think that people in government are doing the best
they can. And they all sound like that too when
they talk they are doing the best. They know they're
(30:56):
not and their best sucks on their on their day.
And people just got to get over this faith in
government that they have. No, you're not dealing with the
best and brightest in society. You're not dealing with the
top ten percent. You're dealing with the bottom ten percent
when it comes to intellectual ability, ambition, and drive, which
(31:17):
is what you need to succeed, and you end up
as a government bureaucrat. You don't have any of those
qualities and this is what you get. All Right, We
will come back Tom McClintock, he's a congressman from northern California,
and we're going to talk about the massive changes coming
to Washington with Trump, the immigration executive orders, the fires
(31:40):
here that are going on, and what you know, the
piss poor government response. Again not talking about the individual
firefighters and police officers who have been superheroes. It is
the management on all levels that is just terrible, just awful,
and things have got to change, especially for the money
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
On the iheut radio app if you want to rail
away about all the city and county incompetence when it
comes to the fire response. And today we've got another
huge fire, the Hues Fire in the Staic area, which
if you don't know, is part of La County, and
we're going to be deling into La County's evacuation warning
(00:41):
failures in just a moment with Alex Stone. But this
fire is burning over five thousand acres and this thing
exploded five thousand acres in less than two hours, so
I imagine it could be a lot more than five
thousand right now. They're attacking it quite a bit from
the air to the two county super Scoopers are being used,
not so much on the ground because the terrain is
(01:03):
very difficult to deal with. There are a lot of
homes in jeopardy. In fact, they show video now on
Fox eleven where there's a lot of people running. It
looks like they're in might be a school building. I
know people are evacuating.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well School, Mystic High School.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
They're showing the crowds of kids and administrators and teachers
all crowded on the stairs and in the courtyards and
running down the street because depending which way you point
the camera, the sky is orange and yellow and brown
and black from the fire and the smoke.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
KTLA is reporting nineteen thousand people have been evacuated so far.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Nineteen thousand instaic and they I mean, that's most of
the population. I'm just looking on Wikipedia. They have a
twenty ten census number of nineteen thousand. Nearly the whole
town has run out. We will Debra's on the case there.
(02:06):
Michael Monks in the KFI newsroom is on the case.
Alex Stone is with us from ABC News to talk
about this really shocking and disgusting story. La County sent
out evacuation warnings up to eight to nine hours late
to western Alta Dina, where most of the deaths happened
(02:27):
in that Eaton fire. Let's get alex on. Yeah, John,
some of them were late or not at all real quickly.
On the Hughes fire. It's going thirty acres a minute
right now, is the calculation that we just got. And
we just talked to La County Fire and they say
they're letting it push into Castaic Lake, that that is
the best thing that they can do. They cannot get
(02:48):
out in front of it. They don't know of anything
on the western side of the lake that has burned,
and that's going to be their objective here to make
sure it doesn't jump the lake, but that they want
to push into the lake, use that as a natural
barrier and then begin to work the flanks of it.
That they're really focusing on right now, but on the
(03:08):
the eas alerts of the Outadena fires. So we all
know there were a lot of problems with the emergency alerts,
the ones that go off on your cell phone during
these fires, and some people just have them turned off.
You got to make sure the yours is on. Others
turned them off because they got annoyed by them. But
the bigger issue has been that people who live on
the western side of Altadena. They say they never got
(03:30):
them at all. That there is are turned on that's
where the deaths were, west of Lake Avenue, and people
live there say the alerts never came, or they came
eight or nine hours late. This is what they're saying.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
I'm very disappointed and angry about it because I feel
like had we gotten evacuation official notification, we would have
acted faster.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
She says she never got in order to evacuate. Eventually,
she grabbed what she could, got out on her own,
came back and her home had burned to the ground,
but never got an order in any form. Nobody banged
on the door the morning that that area of Altadena
on that Wednesday morning that those homes burned down, never
had an alert go off.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
This guy the same thing. It's disappointing. Look, the fire
was moving so quickly.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I don't know what their resources were, I don't know
what their challenges were, but you know, we certainly didn't
have the notice. Now, The La Times says he reviewed
a bunch of records that the many homes in those
deadliest areas never received any kind of an evacuation order. Then,
on the opposite side, we all know John that at
one point, all ten million people in La County got
that alert telling everybody to evacuate and that there was
(04:35):
a fire near them, and that was a mistake and
they had to resend that one. And this is the
guy at the Emergency Operations Center for the county who
runs those alerts to go out, and he had.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
To say, I can't express enough how sorry I am
for this experience.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
And he said the mistake and alerts were a technical
glitch that went out to everybody. He said it wasn't
even humans doing it, which didn't really make any sense.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So in the computers, that doesn't help.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
So the computers were doing this on their own sending
it out to everybody in La County. As these alerts
are being issued, they are not being activated or initiated
by a person.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
So okay, So they got to look into that.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Oh, why don't they have a person reviewing it right
before they go out? And you have to assume that
when they are supposed to go out, that a human
is righting what is going to be in there.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, but back to the ones that didn't go out
at all.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
So now La County Supervisor Catherine Barber, she is the
one leading the charge for an investigation, and she is
pushing it forward, says that there will be a third
party investigation. She's getting a lot of support from the
supervisors where they want to know why didn't the alerts
go off? Was it a cell tower issue, was it
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somebody clicked the wrong zone? Was it a technical thing?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
They don't know.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
It's important for us to gather all the back so
that we have a complete picture of what happened.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
And I make you this promise that is going to
be my priority. Aready moving forward.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
And today the sheriff reminded everybody that alert or not
that his deputies did and credit to them that they
saved a lot of lives by banging on doors getting
elderly people out.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
We know they did a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
He does want investigation, He says he wants to know
what was going on with the alerts, but that he
doesn't want it lost. That his deputies were heroes in this,
and that they went into the flames and they pulled
people out.
Speaker 7 (06:22):
Looking at their faces, a lot of them looking into
their eyes with tears in their eyes, because all of
them at times felt helpless because of the weather conditions,
because they wanted to save everybody's life.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And so there is going to be an investigation now
into the wireless emergency alerts and a lot they have
to learn. It seems like we don't know how to
send them out appropriately or at all in a major emergency,
and they got to figure that out.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
This is just stunning.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
For all the money we pay in taxes, I don't
think an emergency alert system that works properly is a
lot to ask, you know, I mean, I think the
lesson here is that if you are in to Stay
or Lake Piru right now, or we just got a
notification moment ago in northern parts of Santa Clarita underwarning now,
then when you're underwarning, get out of there. And this
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is a good example of that. Nobody may come bang
on your door. You may not get an emergency alert.
Don't wait for that. If you can see the smoke
and you think it's heading your way, and whether it
be this or any fire, you feel like you're in danger,
just go because you may not. As we learned an
outa Dina and in Lahina, and in Santa Rosa and
(07:30):
in Paradise, no warning may come, especially in the middle
of the night. No warning may come, so you got
to save yourself.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it's just use your senses like forest animals. Do
you hear something, you smell something, you see something, get out,
get out of the way.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Go right.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, and on the huge fire and everybody on the
five is seeing it, while everybody everywhere is seeing it
right now. But the hope is going to be that
they can keep it on the eastern side of Castaic Lake.
And again they're letting it push into the lake. They
don't see any slop over, any starts on the other side,
and so we hope it works. They're trying to contain
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it into the lake. You know how close to the
other side of the lake are homes pretty close When
you go into the entrance to Castaic Lake, there are
homes right there, and then you've got right the freeway
is not far away, and there's like a McDonald's and
I've been checking the box and everything else times.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
And driven by there.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
But there are there are a lot I could see
now from the helicopter there are a lot of homes
clustered together. Yeah, and the numbers that we have I
think it is, yeah, nineteen thousand under mandatory evacuation twelve
thousand is going back sixteen thousand under a warning right now,
going all the way into Ventura County as it's pushing.
It is pushing due west in these Santa Ana wins
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right now, so folks in Stevenson Ranch and most of
Santa Clarita that is not under threat because it's not
moving except for in the fringes of far northern Santa Clarita.
It's not moving south. It is going dead with the
wind in the the west. And again the objective being
let it burn on its own into the lake, and
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then they have to deal with the flanks of it,
the sides of it where they're really hitting that hard
right now with the heavy air tankers, with the super scoopers,
with the helicopters, and then contain that from the sides.
But hopefully it works and it doesn't jump over the
lake all right, Thanks very much, Alex Stone, ABC News
reporting for KF five. There's a high wind warning in
effect for the Castaic area and much of northwest Los
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Angeles County. Thirty to forty mile per hour winds coming
from the northeast. It's pulling from the northeast to the southwest.
The gusts fifty to sixty miles an hour, and that's
going to go on this afternoon tonight all the way
to tomorrow afternoon. So you're looking about twenty four hours
of this kind of wind and a tremendous fire going
(09:54):
on right now near Castaic Lake. And we'll bring you
more when we come back. There's more to add to
what Alex reported on. The La Times did a story
and we got to talk about this government because this
government is failing over.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
And over and over again.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
But the La City and the La County government is
the Actually the City Council and the Board of Supervisors
should be declared individual disaster areas because it is. It
is shocking how many fallops there have been, just with
the Emergency Management Center and and and these these evacuation warnings.
(10:33):
I wouldn't I wouldn't count on an accurate evacuation warning
or earthquake warning when it comes time.
Speaker 8 (10:40):
For I told you last week when I was driving
home from work, I got two evacuation warnings. I was
on the phone with a friend and I flipped out
and I looked on I looked at the alert and
they were old. But that you know, loud booming noise.
The alert was was it happened?
Speaker 3 (10:58):
And it was.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Old Who did the software for the county? What kind
of a who's brother in law got that contract. We'll
talk about all this, but that.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
Does make me worry about the earthquake app.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Well, of course, I mean, you just can't trust anything.
Speaker 6 (11:13):
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Speaker 2 (11:18):
Forty just to let you know if you if you
want to see me on video, we're just everywhere. I
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can see that on YouTube. Deborah Cobelt Live and Shan
and I talked for about forty minutes about the previous
(11:38):
fires and about Trump coming in. So it's Deborah Cobelt
Live on YouTube and that's already been posted.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
Now.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I wanted to get into the details about follow up
on Alex Stones report on the fire in Alta Dina,
West Altadena, where there was there were no warnings, no
evacuation warnings for many neighborhoods. Fire broke out in the
sixth seven o'clock hour and on that on January seventh,
(12:07):
and people did not get their warnings until three thirty
in the morning. You can believe this. We're talking eight
nine hours and I will get to that. But I
came across this story in California Globe. Instead of our
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legislators making sure that our fire departments, our police departments
are fully funded, that all the brush is cleared, that
the electrical lines are put underground, that the evacuation warning
systems work, listen to what they were doing. In Sacramento
(12:48):
on Tuesday evening, a group of California legislators glitting, some
from the LA area, gathered on the west steps of
the State Cappital to hold a healing circle in response
to Trump's immigration policies. This is according to Capital reporter
(13:09):
Eton Wallace, prayers, remarks and candlelight and warm milk, crayons
and stuffed animals. This is what the legislators are doing
this week. Several lawmakers who spoke promised to introduce legislation.
(13:30):
They say we'll protect immigrants regardless of immigration status. What
they're doing right now is arresting criminal illegal aliens, many
of them violent felons. And this milk, crayons and stuffed
animals crowd objects to that. Here are some of the idiots.
(13:50):
Assemblyman Mike Gibson from Carson says, now more than ever,
we must come to organize and show this president that
we're not backing down. Alex Lee from San Jose said,
the California legislature will be there for our immigrant community.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Is there anybody for US taxpayers?
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Like when fire breaks out in West Altadan, is there
anybody there to wake up the residents because seventeen died,
partly because the evacuation warning system is broken. Senator Susan
Rubio shared her story of deportation from when she was
a child.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
What can you say here?
Speaker 2 (14:36):
And here's a photo of them standing on the steps, one, two, three, four,
nine of them, and they have all these candles set up.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
And the thing is a lot of.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
These people represent districts where the crime is the worst,
and yet here you have the federal go They won't.
They won't arrest the criminals here or put them in jail.
When they get out of jail, they will turn them
over to Ice to deport them. So they're runming around free.
Here come the Feds to do the job that the
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local politicians ought to do in local law enforcement, but
they won't let law enforcement do it. They won't allow sentencing.
It keeps these monsters in jail. So here come the
Feds to basically bail out these neighborhoods. Candlelight vigil. All right,
(15:41):
we come back, get into this the rest of this story.
In the Alta, Dina and.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I found that.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Legislator story because I want to get a list of
the names of the people on the the La County
Board of Supervisors. Hey, and you should know them because
the sport Is supervisor Catherine Barger is the only one
who's semi saying. The rest of them are completely utterly
out of their minds, and they have an emergency system
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that doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Over and over and over again.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
It's been broken that we know of, right ever since
January sixth and the Palisades fire out to Dina fire,
I don't know how it's working for static, but I
wouldn't wait for you for your phone to buzz. I
would just get out of astaic that whole region. Just
just look outside, sniff the do like the animals do.
(16:40):
We have to revert to our primitive ways because you
can't trust the technology that La County has. It's all
a big fail.
Speaker 6 (16:48):
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six forty.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
We're on every day from one until four, and then
after four o'clock you go to John Cobbet's show on
demand on the iHeart app to listen to what you missed.
All right, so here's final Let me get to the
story on what happened in Altadena, because Altadena has been
shortchanged when it comes to coverage on these fires. And
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seventeen people died. They all lived in an area west
of Lake Avenue, and even though the fire was first
seen in the six o'clock hour on Tuesday of the seventh,
it wasn't until three am that an evacuation notice came
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in over people's phones. Middle of the night, many people
have their phones turned off or their notifications turned to silent.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
The fire was eight nine hours earlier.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
They all lived in the area west of Lake Avenue,
seven hours after other orders went out to neighborhoods closer
to the fire starting points. Hours after the fire, officials
had gotten reports that houses in the area were burning,
but they never heard from officials that they needed to
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get out. Nobody told them. Among the dead was Dalise Curry,
ninety five years old. Her granddaughter dropped her off at
midnight at home three blocks away. Anthony Mitchell and his
son Justin called for help evacuating at five in the morning.
They both died when the flames consumed their home. Diane Leeb,
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another resident, she knew something bad was coming. Winds were howling,
the power had gone out, but that had happened a
number of times before, and she had lit some candles
in the living room with her twin six year old daughters.
Her husband comes in and says, Diana, you need to
look in the backyard right now. Outside a wall of
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fire was bearing down in their homes. It was seven
oh six pm when they could see the fire in
their backyard. You know what time their phones finally buzzed
with a warning, three twenty five am, eight and a
half hours later.
Speaker 3 (19:20):
That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Eight and a half hours after they evacuated, they got
the evacuation warning.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
You know, we haven't really heard any updates, you know,
with that guy after he apologized right for the mistake,
I'd like to know what he's doing, What has he
done to fix the problem.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
I mean, what it's been a couple of weeks.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He's probably still crying.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
He didn't sound like the guy that was going to
fix things. Now this is going to sound stupid, but
here's how I how I think they should. They should
do this right. They've got their algorithms to send out warnings.
I look at Firewatch right and they have broken up.
I guess you're using a government source. Every neighborhood has
(20:11):
assigned its own code. You know, it'll say like g
x ES four.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Confusing.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
It's very confusing.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
And when and when the county or the city issues
an evacuation warning to a number of neighborhoods, it's a
long list of these codes. But the codes, there's there's
no key to explain what the what what neighborhoods The codes.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
Are connected, so you need the Genesis app for that.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
That's what I figured out. So you could get the
code on Firewatch, but the c you need Genesis to
attach the code to the exact streets.
Speaker 8 (20:47):
Yes, because you put your address in there and a boom,
it tells you the code.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
It took me three days to figure that out.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Oh, you should have asked me.
Speaker 8 (20:53):
I figured, well, I didn't figure it out. Somebody told
me a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
You know, I don't know what to ask.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
I mean, that's something that's like I didn't know about
this Genesis app code.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
The code thing was just very frustrating.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
And I don't remember anybody in government telling people to
use Firewatch and to do Genesis.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
That's the thing. I don't remember that watching watching the
TV newscast.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
I never really knew about watching the watch Judy app
or Genesis until weeks ago.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Yeah, Watch Duty is actually the name of it. So
but all right, here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
If I book an airline flight right, I very carefully
look at the right day, right date, right time. It's
leaving from the right city, landing in the right place.
The return flight is the same thing. And then if
I'm sitting with my wife or if I'm booking this
for my son, I will say out loud, Okay, we
are leaving Los Angeles on May the eighth. We are
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arriving in Tampa. You know at five twenty five we
are returning on May seventeenth, leaving Tampa and landing in
Los Angeles. I'm really specific, and I say this out
loud before I hit send, before I hit purchase, to
make sure I got it right. I look at it
three times and then I clear it with somebody else.
If somebody else is around this crying guy over at
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the emergency management center before they send out the order,
does anybody stand in the room and say, okay, we're
sending out evacuation notices to QX four O seven that's Brentwood.
Uh you know XCEL three two five three that's Woodland
Hills or a specific part of Woodland Hills.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
Right, right, that's what you do.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
You have a human being somebody else saying yes, that's right, yes,
to go through a checklist, and then they say okay,
press send and then a human press is sin?
Speaker 1 (22:42):
What is it with?
Speaker 7 (22:43):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
Well, it does it on its own. There's no human involved.
Well what the hell is that?
Speaker 3 (22:47):
No, that needs to be fixed, that needs to be changed.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
You got bad wiring, bad software, bad programming, bad something
is going on there. So you just allow it and
this one on for days. Like you said, you just
got one over the weekend last week. Last week it
was a Friday.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
I'm driving home, so almost a week ago.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Right, but that's ten days after the original fire, Cizzar.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
So who in county government thinks this is a good idea?
What's wrong with you?
Speaker 4 (23:14):
You know?
Speaker 2 (23:14):
They talk about I was at a community meeting last night,
which I'm not going to get into right now because
there's a semi private meeting, but they talked about how
they're going to have investigations after action reports this and that.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Do you need to do.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
An investigation to sit down the crying guy and say,
why don't you personally review each evacuation noticed before the
supercomputer sends it out.
Speaker 8 (23:38):
Well, Katherine Barger, supervisor Katheryne Barger, did say that they
are going to investigate those erroneous notifications. But Okay, well,
when is that going to happen? And it probably should
have been fixed.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
By now Here's yeah, but as a Friday it wasn't.
You were still getting And I'd like to hear if
there's any any Castaic problems. By the way, the Castaic
fire along the roadway, I'm looking at Fox eleven.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Wow, it is a massive fire.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, more than five thousand acres.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Look at yeah, and it's it's all along the road.
I don't know what road that is. That is a
spectacular video there and they've got some firefighters and police
standing on the side of the road watching the fire.
It is a long, long trail of flames along the
hills and Kassak and there's a lot of thick smoke
(24:31):
blotting out the sky.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Wow, really does look like hell.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
I mean the air.
Speaker 8 (24:37):
Quality in southern California. I mean, how are we ever
going to get over this?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
The Pitch's Detention Center is evacuating inmates.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Oh that's good, Well just let them out, right, any
volunteer firefighters in that bunch.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
I was gonna say, can they do a quick check?
Speaker 4 (24:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Instead of letting them out? Why don't they? Why don't they?
Speaker 8 (25:00):
Yeah, because there are inmates that were working in the US.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Let him stand there here, you figure it out. You're
on parole. So I'm looking. So these are the supervisors
and you probably don't know their names.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
We have a really really fed up system of government
here because we have five supervisors and they each represent
almost two million people.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And that's the government in La now.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
I apparently there was a vote on the ballot November
to introduce the concept of a county executive. But I
don't know what with the relationship he's going to have
with the board of supervisors. I mean, he's like the
business guy to execute the business of the county.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
And he's elected.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But the way you have an Assembly and a state
Senate and then a governor right to ratify a law,
or you have a House of Representative as a Senate
and a president. We've never had like a single figure
who could take responsibility and sift through the nonsense that
(26:06):
the county passes. We've got Hilda Salase, she worked in
the Obama administration and was a congresswoman. Holly Mitchell, she
was a state senator and she was a legislative advocate.
Lindsey Horvath was West Hollywood City Council and mayor. Janis
(26:29):
Hahn was in Congress for five years and then the
city council for ten years. Actually reversed and now she's
a supervisor. Han Horvath, Mitchell and Solise are nuts. The
four of them are nuts, and there's nobody to override
their decisions.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
There's no.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
Governor, there's no president, there's no executive chief to say,
you people are crazy with the stuff you spend money on.
Catherine Parker is a normal person. But that emergency Management
center has to be completely completely bolded.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I don't know why it hasn't.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
I mean, we've been dealing with this for you know,
two weeks seventy people.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
Died out to Dina. All right, we got more.
Speaker 6 (27:17):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Coming up right after three o'clock. Tom McClintock, the Northern
California congressman, who's an old friend of the show. We've
had him on for many, many years, and he's going
to talk about all huge changes coming to Washington with
the Trump administration. By the way, the federal DEI office
died about fifty five minutes ago at two o'clock. DEI
(27:44):
is dead. Office is closed. Everybody goes home. They're on
administrative leave, and then they get fired.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Yay.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
The Lake Hughes, the Hughes fire rather is burning now
along Lake Hughes Road. That was the road that I
was talking about a few minutes ago, which had flames
snaking alongside the length of the road as far as
the camera could see, and you had firefighters standing in
the on the road watching to see what was going
(28:13):
to happen there. Also, Channel four is reporting the Castaic
Middle and elementary schools have been evacuated. The students are
going to the routs at Halsey Canyon, and CBS is
saying that CHP is working to close the southbound five
at Grapevine Road. Five Freeway is set to close from.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
Grapevine to six.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
This fire is about as out of control as you're
going to ever see a fire. I'm looking at the
humidity for the next twenty four hours. Humidity is going
to be down here in Burbank to three percent. I
don't think I've ever seen a number that long my life.
Pasadena four percent. And that's what's drying out the vegetation
(29:03):
so that it's turned all the vegetation into kindling. I mean,
there's not a drop of moisture in these plants anymore.
Speaker 8 (29:09):
But then, yet, it's gonna rain this weekend. Yeah, you
can't rain today.
Speaker 2 (29:16):
It's gonna do a lot of damage. I mean it's
only Wednesday. I don't think the first rain is till Saturday, right.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Saturday and Sunday and possibly Monday.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
So then is it real rain against an inch?
Speaker 4 (29:28):
No?
Speaker 1 (29:28):
A yeah, all right?
Speaker 2 (29:30):
Because I saw that it was like fifty to fifty
chance of a quarter of an inch of rain, so
it seemed like it would be light and scattered and not.
Speaker 8 (29:38):
I mean it might be scattered, but I mean it
would be better if it's scattered, because if it just
starts pouring, if right, then we're gonna have the mudflow.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
We're gonna have the mud slides and the debris.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah that's the thing.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
You want enough to tamp down them, exactly, but you
don't want enough that would start the big mud slides.
And they're releasing, not releasing, but they're evacuating the Pitcher's prison.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Yeah, now we're going to have criminals roaming around.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I know, Well, what do you think is going to
happen with the competency of all of the state government,
county government, city government, what do.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
You think is going to happen?
Speaker 2 (30:14):
They're going to lose track of some of the prisoners
and they're just going to run off into the wildfire,
into the hills. Complete breakdown of government. And I don't
think I don't think anybody's even trying to make a
case otherwise. There are some people who are saying, well, well,
let's just weigh it's no that is that is the
(30:35):
potted plant brigade. That's what I call people who when
they go to meetings or they're on zoom calls, well,
you know, let's just see what happens. You know, they're
doing the best they can. There's so many people who
reflexibly think that people in government are doing the best
they can. And they all sound like that too when
they talk they are doing the best. They know they're
(30:56):
not and their best sucks on their on their day.
And people just got to get over this faith in
government that they have. No, you're not dealing with the
best and brightest in society. You're not dealing with the
top ten percent. You're dealing with the bottom ten percent
when it comes to intellectual ability, ambition, and drive, which
(31:17):
is what you need to succeed, and you end up
as a government bureaucrat. You don't have any of those
qualities and this is what you get. All Right, We
will come back Tom McClintock, he's a congressman from northern California,
and we're going to talk about the massive changes coming
to Washington with Trump, the immigration executive orders, the fires
(31:40):
here that are going on, and what you know, the
piss poor government response. Again not talking about the individual
firefighters and police officers who have been superheroes. It is
the management on all levels that is just terrible, just awful,
and things have got to change, especially for the money
(32:02):
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