January 8, 2026 • 30 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 1 (01/08) - US Congressman Kevin Kiley comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with where all of the Fire Aid concert money went that was supposed to go to fire victims. The Employment Development Department in California has been subject to an immense amount of fraud and it is all Julie Su's fault. Brad Garrett comes on the show to talk about the latest going on with the shooting in Minneapolis yesterday where an ICE agent killed a woman. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey cursed multiple times during a press conference and in an interview with Anderson Cooper when talking about not wanting ICE in Minneapolis.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can't. I am six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio
app on every day from one until four, and then
after four o'clock the podcast John Cobelt's Show on demand
on the iHeart app. We have a narrow window here,
so we're going to put Congressman Kevin Kylie on immediately.
He's a Congressman from northern California, and he released a
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report on what happened with the fire aid money. You
remember the fire aid money, the big concert with all
the music stars, and they raised one hundred million dollars,
and it was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Go the way they.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The way they sold it and marketed it. It was
supposed to go to fire victims. Most of the fire
victims said, we didn't get anything. Well, Kevin Kylie's committee
here or this report has tracked a lot of the money.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Let's get Kevin on.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
How are you doing well? John?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
How are you this?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Some of this stuff actually made me laugh out loud,
except that this is not funny. This is like worse
than stealing tax money. This is stealing donated money from
people who had so much sympathy for the fire victims.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, it's it's really unbelievable. I mean some of the
uses that you thought this funding put towards, you know,
political our podcasts, you know, political advocacy groups. You had
one voter outreach group that received funding. Uh. And you know,
the funding didn't go towards directly towards victims really in
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any case. And so, you know, I want to be
fair and in the knowledge and that there were a
number of worthy nonprofits that received the grants as well.
But you know, the I asked for this investigation, which
was undertaken by the Judiciary Committee, so that we could
get answers. We did to the bottom of what happened,
and we've issued this interim report. The investigation is ongoing.
Those were following up on how some of the grantees
shunt their funds.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
In your report, you said fire aid funds were spent
on fungus planting projects. Oh yeah, planting projects. That's the
one that cracked me up.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Can you elaborate?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, you can dig into
the details of some of these things, and that was
one of them that you know, was a real head scratcher.
There was also cases where the money seems to have
been used for overhead expenses, staffing expenses. I oppose to
direct aid to fire victims. So the purpose of our
report and I also, by the way, have put the
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documents up on my website as well, Kylie House dot gov.
You can find a list of every single organization that
received grants and you can judge for yourself, you know,
as to whether this was aligned with the purpose of
the concert.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And a lot of there was a lot of money.
Half a million went to organizations involved in political advocacy.
Let me guess what kind of political advocacy.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, you know, you don't have to guess. We have
the information up there and folks can go and check
it out. There was one at least one grant we
know has been returned that was given to a group
that does like tries to encourage voter participation, which you know,
might be a good cause, but certainly not really connected
fire relief. So you know, I'm glad that we've gotten
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at least some answers. As I said, our investigation is ongoing,
and I want to make sure that you know this
provides some lessons for how you know, if scot forbid
we have another disaster, how charitable efforts we managed in
the future.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
What it says your one hundred thousand was sent to podcasters?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
What kind of podcasters? I mean, what was the subject
matter of the podcast? Do we know?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You can you know, I think there were a few
different podcasters, So maybe there were some who claim to
have made you know, had hosted podcasts about the fire.
Maybe that was the next day.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But never get any of these checks. We've done a
whole year's worth of shows on the fires.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Nobody said me any of that you missed out.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's like Ray and I always joke it's like, how
do we get on these scams? Everybody else is getting
governing grant money for all kinds of nonsense.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't get a dollar at this.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
All right, right, But the bigger issue is we have
so much fraud that just exists in government too. So I'm,
you know, undertaking some efforts to start rooting that out
in a more serious way as well.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I know Trump is making a lot of noise about
investigating California in a number of ways, and it certainly
needs it, because if Tim Waltz is responsible for nine million,
nine billion dollars in fraud, god knows what we'd find
in Gavin Newsom's closet.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean, this, this.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
This place is unbelievable, and it has gotten no scrutiny.
I know you've made a lot of noise about it,
and so have we over here, but uh, hardly anybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Really.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean I think it'll be small potatoes when
they found in Minnesota. I mean, we know that thirty
two billion in unemployment fraud during COVID, that's confirmed, not
the minimum by the It's probably much higher. And we
know about the homelessness, we know about you know, high
speed rail and uh and uh college community college. One
third of the applicants we're just used to commit financial
aid for aud there are fake applicants. So the list
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goes on, and I feel like we've just you know,
got the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
All right, Kevin, I know you got to go vote,
So go vote. Thank you for taking a few minutes
with us.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
All right, thanks my friend, you mat all right?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
All right, Kevin Kylie, congressman from Northern California. And here's
here's some details. They found that one hundred thousand dollars,
like I said, was sent to podcaster podcasters. Some went
to out the Alta Dina Talks Foundation for the purpose
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of supporting the Tony Rains podcast and other shows. I
don't know why why does a podcaster need need money?
I mean, you're supposed to sell advertising for that. Why
why why do you need you need a grant from
a charitable organization to talk? It's actually not that expensive
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to set up a podcast. Maybe you notice there's like
millions of them out there, so the bar is pretty low.
I don't know who Tony Rains is.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I guess it's a woman. It's spelled t o n I.
I never heard of her. I don't know what she
talks about. But I don't think a single person who
wrote out a check to fire Aid wanted it to
go to the Tony Rains podcast. I'm just I'm just
making a wild guest there. It's now let's see, five
hundred and fifty thousand dollars went to groups involved in
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political advocacy.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What do you know? Nonprofits?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
For example, the NAACP Acidena got one hundred thousand dollars.
They're dedicated to fighting for basic human dignities, which is
really wonderful, But why did they get the fire Aid
money and what did they do with it? I mean,
some of these organizations should explain where they rooted the
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money or did it just go into general funds. The
Los Angeles Black Workers Center got two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars in grant funds from fire Aid to increase
to increase access to quality jobs.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, this is its mission to.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Reduce un to reduce employment discription, and improve industries that
employ back black workers through action unianization.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, that's fine, if that's.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Your thing, you can donate money to that, But why
why fire Aid money? Here's another one two hundred thousand
dollars to a group called My Tribe Rise. That's that's
that's not even English, that's not grammatical English, or my
Tribe Rise. That's to create program that meet the immediate
needs of working class, elderly and disabled black residents of
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Altadia at Pasadena. Now, if they funneled the money to
some of the actual victims of the fire, because I
know a lot of in West Altadian, the black neighborhoods
were completely wiped out. That's where nineteen of the deaths were.
That should be explained here in fact, for all even
the ones where Kevin highly said it goes to worthy causes.
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We still don't know these worthy causes. Did they actually
spend it on people who were victimized by the fires,
or did it go to overhead you know, everybody's salaries
and benefits, and you know healthcare. The California Charter School
Association got ninety eight thousand dollars, The Neighborhood Legal Services
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of La County got ninety two thousand, the La Regional
Food Bank one hundred and seventy thousand. Their mission is
to mobilize resources to fight hunger. Well, you got a
lot of re sources there. So who got fed? Was
it fire victims who got fed? Like poor fire victims,
we had nowhere to live anymore. You know, the biggest,
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biggest scandal that is ongoing twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week in the state is the theft
by these nonprofits, these non governmental organizations. If you ever
hear the acronym NGOs non governmental orcy organizations nonprofits, it
is that is so rife with fraud. We will continue
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when we come back because Kevin Kylie mentioned one of
the biggest departments of fraud in California was the Unemployment department,
and Julie Sue, who ran that department during the fraud
that cost us ten billions of dollars, has suddenly got
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a really good job with Zorn Mamdani, mayor New York.
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Just two more little bits of fascinating information from Kevin
Kylie's report he's the congressman. We just had him on
and he has investigated where a lot of the money went.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
From fire Aid.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Remember the big concert that all those musicians and celebrities
they performed, and they made it clear most people got
the message that the money was going to go to
all the individual families who were burned out of their homes.
That didn't happen. And what they found out is an
unknown amount of money went towards illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
What do you know?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
According to internal documents as of June thirtieth of last year,
there's a group known as Community Organized Relief Efforts. They
got two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from Fire Aid
Corps COO. Community do organize Relief efforts and its vision
is to build a more equitable world in which underserved
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communities are prepared and can respond to crises from within.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That is complete gibberish.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That is just a money that That is how they
write these all this boring gibberish to make you think
they're doing valuable social work. This is just a money
laundering system that's been set up with these nonprofits. How
do the illegal aliens get access to two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm talking. There was like over one thousand.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
People there yesterday who can't get a settlement from the
insurance company, who can't get permits from the city. And
here you have illegal aliens. They bust into the state,
it's against the law. They get free healthcare for the
rest of their lives. And here in this case they.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Have access to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Fire aid money. Among the priority groups, it says here
in the report undocumented migrants, this group is at high
risk of housing instability, economic hardship, exploitation, and homelessness.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
But no, no, we had tax paying American citizens by
the thousands who lost their homes and this donated money
went to illegal aliens because they're at high risk of homelessness.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Are this is insane? Now? Who made that decision?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Who said, yeah, the illegal alien nonprofit, they're going to
get the money because the illegal aliens at risk.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh and I got some more information here and Tony
Rains is.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So one hundred thousand dollars in money raised at the
concert went to Altadena Talks Foundation. Tony Rains a system administrator,
A systems administrator consultant specializing in software for searching, monitoring,
and analyzing machine generated data. She'd been heavily involved in
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the tech industry, but found herself speaking about the California
wildfires on her podcast. Applied for a fire aid grant
and got it. It's unclear if this fire aid money
went directly to aid victims. She got it because she
talks about analyzing machine generated data.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Why didn't we apply for a grant? Wow? Nice racket?
All right, now, let me get to Julie Sue.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
She is like the godmother of a wasteful spending for
this era in California. Julie Sue. We talked about her frequently,
but maybe you don't know her name. Julie Sue spelled Su.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And she was.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
She worked in Gavin Newsom's government and when Newsom announced
the lockdown, he came up with a strike team to
deal with the unemployment issue and created something called the
Employment Development Department that made no sense. What it did
is they wrote out unemployment checks. They didn't develop any employment.
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They wrote out unemployment checks because remember they were given
away tens of billions of dollars anybody who claimed to
be out of work. There were long wait times, unemployment claims,
the payments were late, you couldn't get them on the phone.
The record number of people filed. And Julie Sue was
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the Secretary of Labor here in California, in charge of
it all. And nobody has botched a job more than
Julie Sue botched this job fifty doubt. Now, this is
from Katie Grimes at californiaglobe dot com. She says more
than fifty five billion was sent to fraudsters, such as
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prison inmates in California county jails and state and federal prisons.
And we're talking about big name prison inmates. Let's go
through death row here. Scott Peterson got a check from
Julie Sue. The killer of eight year old Gabriel Fernandez
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Iszarro Aguire got a check from Julie Sue. Julie Sue
said to check to the speed freak killer Wesley Sherman.
Time you remember this. I don't remember the speed freak
killer Carrie Stainer. That name sounds real familiar. That was
another serial killer, Wayne Adam for another serial killer. What
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do they all have in common other than going on
murder sprees? They got unemployment checks from Julie Sue not
making this up. At the time, Sacramento had a district
attorney named Anne Maurice Schubert, and he said, She said, rather,
this is perhaps the biggest fraud on taxpayers in California history.
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And then she went through the seven death Row inmates
who got unemployment benefits from Julie Sue. Also prisoners who
got life and life without parole. We're talking murderers, rapists,
child molesters, human traffickers, other violent criminals all got unemployment
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checks and many of them these checks were sent out
of state in these prisoners' names. Fifty five billion dollars,
says California glow dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Guess what. Julie Sue got promoted to be Joe Biden's.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Labor Secretary, but she had to live with only being
acting secretary because even the Democrats in the Senate wouldn't
vote to confirm her. So she sat in limbo much
of the time. She was doing the same job, but
they wouldn't give her the official title because nobody wanted
to be on the record as confirming her.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But they wanted to give Biden labor secretary. He wanted
do you believe this. This is Julie Sue.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And now to cap it all off, she's been appointed
Deputy Mayor of New York City for economic justice. Mom
Donnie posted on x welcome to a new era Julie Sue.
As former US Secretary of Labor, Julie Sue played a
central role fighting for workers, ensuring a day's pay for
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a hard day's work, and saving the pensions of more
than a million union workers and retirees. And she shoveled
fifty five billion dollars in fraudulent claims taxpayer money out
the door.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And you know what's really crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
When she went from being California Labor Secretary to US
Labor Secretary, she forgave the fraudulent spending that California was
responsible for because this was federal money and we should
have had to pay back a lot of that money.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And Julie said, no, you're forgiven.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
She was the one who sent the money to all
the criminals and fraudsters, and in effect, she forgave herself.
Although California still ows twenty billion dollars, but that's another story.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Brad Garrett ABC News on the Insanity in Minneapolis and
you had the ICE agent killing that driver, and it
looks like there's a lot of protesters in Minneapolis right now,
a lot of law enforcement there.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
There have been some dust ups.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
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Speaker 6 (20:24):
Also setting a tone in my view for doing you know,
sworn law enforcement work, violent violation work for a long
time that you have to build relationships in communities. Now
they're not there to do that, but the way they're
treating people certainly makes it tough for someone to come
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behind them and has a homicide in Los Angeles six
months from now and they get ruffed up by Ice
and they're from a country where you don't trust the
police anyway, You've now created another problem for yourself, right,
I mean, it can work against us, I think a
long time.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
This is what I think. Well.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I think part of their goal was, because they constantly
point to the self deportation numbers, which are three times
higher than the deportation numbers, is to create this atmosphere that, yeah,
everybody's scared. They want to make everybody scared. They want
to make everybody upset, and that will get them to
you know, take three thousand dollars and head back home.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Yeah, there is no doubt.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
There is no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
It's it's a situation though.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I don't think it's going to change.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I don't think anybody in.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
DHS, in Ice, or in particular in the White House,
I have any desire to change anything. If anything, they'll
pick up their game and we may have this conversation again.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right, Brad, thanks for coming on with us again.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Take care Brad Garrett and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He's the ABC News crime and terrorism analyst about the
shooting up in Minneapolis. Now, when we come back, more
on this, because you have the mayor of Minneapolis doing
everything he can to whip up all these protesters and
make them even more angry, more crazy, potentially more violent,
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and he's going on national television and he can't stop cursing.
We'll play u some Jacob Fry clips. He was the
idiot mayor who oversaw the George Floyd twenty twenty riots
in Minneapolis. That's quite a team Fry and Tim Walls. Well,
we'll play some of Jacob Fry's clips when we return.
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Speaker 1 (23:24):
From They Let Us Burn. I got a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm on a podcast which has been released this week
called Stateofgold dot com. It's on California politics, Stateofgold dot com.
It's hosted by the tech entrepreneur John Slavitt. He's also
running for governor and he had me on and that
is at Stateofgold dot com. You could see that particular
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episode and he's on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Next after two o'clock with Debra's News, Amy Reiker is
on you know about the massive daycare fraud scandal. With
the Somalians in Minnesota. Well, we've got a daycare fraud
scandal here in the San Diego area. No Somalians part
of this one, but hey, everybody's in on the fund.
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Everybody's ripping off the government. And Amy Reichardt, who's an
independent internet journalist, is going to be on to explain
what she found in San Diego. Now, we just talked
with ABC News correspondent Bred Garrett about whether the shooting
up in Minnesota was justified or not. What you had
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is the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frye and that idiot Governor
Tim Waltz. Waltz is the newsome of the Midwest. That's
how stupid he is. They random marricades right away, screaming
and yelling about the injustice of the shooting, before any
of them had seen much of the video. Because a
lot of the video I saw was after they were shouting.
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And it's not enough just to shout and be indignant anymore.
You're required to curse because that makes you really cool.
When you curse. It it's like teenage boys. They're gonna
show their friends. I can curse too, Watch me drop
this f bomb. Unfortunately, we have to bleep this stuff out,
but you'll get the idea play cut number five.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
They are already trying to spin this as an action
of self defense. Having seen the video of myself, I
want to tell everybody directly that is this was an
agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
See, I don't think you saw all the videos. I
didn't even see it at first. You have to have
the right angle, and you see that the ICE agent
was directly in front of the car and then she
hits the gas pedal. Now, she started turning away as
she hit the gas pedal, but I could see that
in one of the video shots because the shot is
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from behind and you look down at the bottom of
the screen and see the wheels turning. But he's standing
in front of the car. He can't really tell if
the wheels you're turning. He just sees the car coming
at him. So that's Fry pop it off and call
him things bs and maybe they're not. But then he well,
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let's play cut number seven. Because he tripled the amount
of cursing on CNN with Anderson Cooper.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
The narrative that Ice is spinning immediately after this was
that this was purely self defense, and that the act
by the victim was some sort of domestic terrorism. That,
and I'll say it again, is that is the way
they've been conducting themselves is also and we all need
to be very clear eyed about what's happening, because, by
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the way, this is not just about Minneapolis. This is
about the endurance of our republic. The things that are
taking place are not just illegal, they are unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
How about when law enforcement tells you get out of
the car, you get out of the car. And how
about when there's law enforcement standing in front of your car,
you don't hit the gas.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Oh, it's bringing down the republic, right anyway?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Cursing once not enough, Cursing three times not enough, because
that's just using the BS word.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Let's go for the F bomb. Here's Jacob Fry again.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Gwis, get out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We do not want you here.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Oh okay, And you think Trump is going to pack
up and take ice out of there out, Sure he wins,
because the federal government, Trump's state and local government. If
you weren't a sanctuary city and a sanctuary state.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
You could help them get all the bad guys out
of that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You're harboring in your jails and in your prisons, help
protect them. I mean, why was this woman sitting there
for three minutes walking ice agents.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
With her car?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Maybe if there was local law enforcement to help out,
she wouldn't be allowed to do that. You're whipping crazy
people up. You know you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And what you want? You want this to happen. You
want somebody to get killed.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Because then it gives you some juice. You're screaming, this
is unjust wrong, abusive power.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Ah, now you got it. Huh.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You manipulated everybody's emotions so you got the moment you wanted.
Woman gets a bullet in her head. How about cooperate
with the police, not only the mayor and the governor,
but this crazy lady. Can you imagine in your whole life,
if you had law enforcement surrounding your car. One of
them is trying to open your door and telling you
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to get out. Another one is standing in front of
your car and telling you to get out of the car.
Can you imagine instead of that, instead of turning off
the engine, throwing your hands up and walking out, instead
of doing that, you hit the gas. Gee, what do
you think is gonna happen. Law enforcement standing in front
of your car. You hit the gas. Oh, but she
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had her wheels turned. Guess what, You're gonna get shot,
and you're probably gonna get shot dead. That's just a
lesson of life, because whether it turns out he's right
or wrong or somewhere in between, she's still dead. Better
not to take on armed law enforcement when they're giving
you an order. It's kind of like a Dartwin's law.
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I guess all right, we come back. Amy Reichardt to
the Internet journalist. She has found some maybe some daycare
fraud in San Diego. I mean, it's hard to believe.
Debor Mark live in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Covelt Show podcast. You
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You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio
app on every day from one until four, and then
after four o'clock the podcast John Cobelt's Show on demand
on the iHeart app. We have a narrow window here,
so we're going to put Congressman Kevin Kylie on immediately.
He's a Congressman from northern California, and he released a
(00:24):
report on what happened with the fire aid money. You
remember the fire aid money, the big concert with all
the music stars, and they raised one hundred million dollars,
and it was supposed to.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Go the way they.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
The way they sold it and marketed it. It was
supposed to go to fire victims. Most of the fire
victims said, we didn't get anything. Well, Kevin Kylie's committee
here or this report has tracked a lot of the money.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Let's get Kevin on.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
How are you doing well? John?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
How are you this?
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Some of this stuff actually made me laugh out loud,
except that this is not funny. This is like worse
than stealing tax money. This is stealing donated money from
people who had so much sympathy for the fire victims.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Yeah, it's it's really unbelievable. I mean some of the
uses that you thought this funding put towards, you know,
political our podcasts, you know, political advocacy groups. You had
one voter outreach group that received funding. Uh. And you know,
the funding didn't go towards directly towards victims really in
(01:41):
any case. And so, you know, I want to be
fair and in the knowledge and that there were a
number of worthy nonprofits that received the grants as well.
But you know, the I asked for this investigation, which
was undertaken by the Judiciary Committee, so that we could
get answers. We did to the bottom of what happened,
and we've issued this interim report. The investigation is ongoing.
Those were following up on how some of the grantees
shunt their funds.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
In your report, you said fire aid funds were spent
on fungus planting projects. Oh yeah, planting projects. That's the
one that cracked me up.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Can you elaborate?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah, Well, I mean, you know, you can dig into
the details of some of these things, and that was
one of them that you know, was a real head scratcher.
There was also cases where the money seems to have
been used for overhead expenses, staffing expenses. I oppose to
direct aid to fire victims. So the purpose of our
report and I also, by the way, have put the
(02:36):
documents up on my website as well, Kylie House dot gov.
You can find a list of every single organization that
received grants and you can judge for yourself, you know,
as to whether this was aligned with the purpose of
the concert.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
And a lot of there was a lot of money.
Half a million went to organizations involved in political advocacy.
Let me guess what kind of political advocacy.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, you know, you don't have to guess. We have
the information up there and folks can go and check
it out. There was one at least one grant we
know has been returned that was given to a group
that does like tries to encourage voter participation, which you know,
might be a good cause, but certainly not really connected
fire relief. So you know, I'm glad that we've gotten
(03:23):
at least some answers. As I said, our investigation is ongoing,
and I want to make sure that you know this
provides some lessons for how you know, if scot forbid
we have another disaster, how charitable efforts we managed in
the future.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
What it says your one hundred thousand was sent to podcasters?
Speaker 1 (03:40):
What kind of podcasters? I mean, what was the subject
matter of the podcast? Do we know?
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:48):
You can you know, I think there were a few
different podcasters, So maybe there were some who claim to
have made you know, had hosted podcasts about the fire.
Maybe that was the next day.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But never get any of these checks. We've done a
whole year's worth of shows on the fires.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Nobody said me any of that you missed out.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I know.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
It's like Ray and I always joke it's like, how
do we get on these scams? Everybody else is getting
governing grant money for all kinds of nonsense.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
I don't get a dollar at this.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
All right, right, But the bigger issue is we have
so much fraud that just exists in government too. So I'm,
you know, undertaking some efforts to start rooting that out
in a more serious way as well.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Well.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
I know Trump is making a lot of noise about
investigating California in a number of ways, and it certainly
needs it, because if Tim Waltz is responsible for nine million,
nine billion dollars in fraud, god knows what we'd find
in Gavin Newsom's closet.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
I mean, this, this.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
This place is unbelievable, and it has gotten no scrutiny.
I know you've made a lot of noise about it,
and so have we over here, but uh, hardly anybody else.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Really.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean I think it'll be small potatoes when
they found in Minnesota. I mean, we know that thirty
two billion in unemployment fraud during COVID, that's confirmed, not
the minimum by the It's probably much higher. And we
know about the homelessness, we know about you know, high
speed rail and uh and uh college community college. One
third of the applicants we're just used to commit financial
aid for aud there are fake applicants. So the list
(05:24):
goes on, and I feel like we've just you know,
got the tip of the iceberg.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
All right, Kevin, I know you got to go vote,
So go vote. Thank you for taking a few minutes
with us.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
All right, thanks my friend, you mat all right?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
All right, Kevin Kylie, congressman from Northern California. And here's
here's some details. They found that one hundred thousand dollars,
like I said, was sent to podcaster podcasters. Some went
to out the Alta Dina Talks Foundation for the purpose
(05:58):
of supporting the Tony Rains podcast and other shows. I
don't know why why does a podcaster need need money?
I mean, you're supposed to sell advertising for that. Why
why why do you need you need a grant from
a charitable organization to talk? It's actually not that expensive
(06:18):
to set up a podcast. Maybe you notice there's like
millions of them out there, so the bar is pretty low.
I don't know who Tony Rains is.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I guess it's a woman. It's spelled t o n I.
I never heard of her. I don't know what she
talks about. But I don't think a single person who
wrote out a check to fire Aid wanted it to
go to the Tony Rains podcast. I'm just I'm just
making a wild guest there. It's now let's see, five
hundred and fifty thousand dollars went to groups involved in
(06:52):
political advocacy.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
What do you know? Nonprofits?
Speaker 2 (06:56):
For example, the NAACP Acidena got one hundred thousand dollars.
They're dedicated to fighting for basic human dignities, which is
really wonderful, But why did they get the fire Aid
money and what did they do with it? I mean,
some of these organizations should explain where they rooted the
(07:18):
money or did it just go into general funds. The
Los Angeles Black Workers Center got two hundred and fifty
thousand dollars in grant funds from fire Aid to increase
to increase access to quality jobs.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Well, this is its mission to.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Reduce un to reduce employment discription, and improve industries that
employ back black workers through action unianization.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, that's fine, if that's.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Your thing, you can donate money to that, But why
why fire Aid money? Here's another one two hundred thousand
dollars to a group called My Tribe Rise. That's that's
that's not even English, that's not grammatical English, or my
Tribe Rise. That's to create program that meet the immediate
needs of working class, elderly and disabled black residents of
(08:03):
Altadia at Pasadena. Now, if they funneled the money to
some of the actual victims of the fire, because I
know a lot of in West Altadian, the black neighborhoods
were completely wiped out. That's where nineteen of the deaths were.
That should be explained here in fact, for all even
the ones where Kevin highly said it goes to worthy causes.
(08:25):
We still don't know these worthy causes. Did they actually
spend it on people who were victimized by the fires,
or did it go to overhead you know, everybody's salaries
and benefits, and you know healthcare. The California Charter School
Association got ninety eight thousand dollars, The Neighborhood Legal Services
(08:50):
of La County got ninety two thousand, the La Regional
Food Bank one hundred and seventy thousand. Their mission is
to mobilize resources to fight hunger. Well, you got a
lot of re sources there. So who got fed? Was
it fire victims who got fed? Like poor fire victims,
we had nowhere to live anymore. You know, the biggest,
(09:13):
biggest scandal that is ongoing twenty four hours a day,
seven days a week in the state is the theft
by these nonprofits, these non governmental organizations. If you ever
hear the acronym NGOs non governmental orcy organizations nonprofits, it
is that is so rife with fraud. We will continue
(09:35):
when we come back because Kevin Kylie mentioned one of
the biggest departments of fraud in California was the Unemployment department,
and Julie Sue, who ran that department during the fraud
that cost us ten billions of dollars, has suddenly got
(09:56):
a really good job with Zorn Mamdani, mayor New York.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
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Speaker 1 (10:15):
Burn demonstration yesterday.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
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Pacific Palisades. We have a number of interviews that have
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(10:38):
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including interviews with Spencer Pratt who's now running for mayor,
(10:59):
and Trec Park, the councilman on the West Side councilwoman.
Just two more little bits of fascinating information from Kevin
Kylie's report he's the congressman. We just had him on
and he has investigated where a lot of the money went.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
From fire Aid.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Remember the big concert that all those musicians and celebrities
they performed, and they made it clear most people got
the message that the money was going to go to
all the individual families who were burned out of their homes.
That didn't happen. And what they found out is an
unknown amount of money went towards illegal aliens.
Speaker 1 (11:43):
What do you know?
Speaker 2 (11:45):
According to internal documents as of June thirtieth of last year,
there's a group known as Community Organized Relief Efforts. They
got two hundred and fifty thousand dollars from Fire Aid
Corps COO. Community do organize Relief efforts and its vision
is to build a more equitable world in which underserved
(12:07):
communities are prepared and can respond to crises from within.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
That is complete gibberish.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
That is just a money that That is how they
write these all this boring gibberish to make you think
they're doing valuable social work. This is just a money
laundering system that's been set up with these nonprofits. How
do the illegal aliens get access to two hundred and
fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
I'm talking. There was like over one thousand.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
People there yesterday who can't get a settlement from the
insurance company, who can't get permits from the city. And
here you have illegal aliens. They bust into the state,
it's against the law. They get free healthcare for the
rest of their lives. And here in this case they.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Have access to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Fire aid money. Among the priority groups, it says here
in the report undocumented migrants, this group is at high
risk of housing instability, economic hardship, exploitation, and homelessness.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
But no, no, we had tax paying American citizens by
the thousands who lost their homes and this donated money
went to illegal aliens because they're at high risk of homelessness.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
Are this is insane? Now? Who made that decision?
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Who said, yeah, the illegal alien nonprofit, they're going to
get the money because the illegal aliens at risk.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Oh and I got some more information here and Tony
Rains is.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
So one hundred thousand dollars in money raised at the
concert went to Altadena Talks Foundation. Tony Rains a system administrator,
A systems administrator consultant specializing in software for searching, monitoring,
and analyzing machine generated data. She'd been heavily involved in
(14:14):
the tech industry, but found herself speaking about the California
wildfires on her podcast. Applied for a fire aid grant
and got it. It's unclear if this fire aid money
went directly to aid victims. She got it because she
talks about analyzing machine generated data.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Why didn't we apply for a grant? Wow? Nice racket?
All right, now, let me get to Julie Sue.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
She is like the godmother of a wasteful spending for
this era in California. Julie Sue. We talked about her frequently,
but maybe you don't know her name. Julie Sue spelled Su.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
And she was.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
She worked in Gavin Newsom's government and when Newsom announced
the lockdown, he came up with a strike team to
deal with the unemployment issue and created something called the
Employment Development Department that made no sense. What it did
is they wrote out unemployment checks. They didn't develop any employment.
(15:33):
They wrote out unemployment checks because remember they were given
away tens of billions of dollars anybody who claimed to
be out of work. There were long wait times, unemployment claims,
the payments were late, you couldn't get them on the phone.
The record number of people filed. And Julie Sue was
(15:53):
the Secretary of Labor here in California, in charge of
it all. And nobody has botched a job more than
Julie Sue botched this job fifty doubt. Now, this is
from Katie Grimes at californiaglobe dot com. She says more
than fifty five billion was sent to fraudsters, such as
(16:15):
prison inmates in California county jails and state and federal prisons.
And we're talking about big name prison inmates. Let's go
through death row here. Scott Peterson got a check from
Julie Sue. The killer of eight year old Gabriel Fernandez
(16:39):
Iszarro Aguire got a check from Julie Sue. Julie Sue
said to check to the speed freak killer Wesley Sherman.
Time you remember this. I don't remember the speed freak
killer Carrie Stainer. That name sounds real familiar. That was
another serial killer, Wayne Adam for another serial killer. What
(17:01):
do they all have in common other than going on
murder sprees? They got unemployment checks from Julie Sue not
making this up. At the time, Sacramento had a district
attorney named Anne Maurice Schubert, and he said, She said, rather,
this is perhaps the biggest fraud on taxpayers in California history.
(17:23):
And then she went through the seven death Row inmates
who got unemployment benefits from Julie Sue. Also prisoners who
got life and life without parole. We're talking murderers, rapists,
child molesters, human traffickers, other violent criminals all got unemployment
(17:46):
checks and many of them these checks were sent out
of state in these prisoners' names. Fifty five billion dollars,
says California glow dot com.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Guess what. Julie Sue got promoted to be Joe Biden's.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Labor Secretary, but she had to live with only being
acting secretary because even the Democrats in the Senate wouldn't
vote to confirm her. So she sat in limbo much
of the time. She was doing the same job, but
they wouldn't give her the official title because nobody wanted
to be on the record as confirming her.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
But they wanted to give Biden labor secretary. He wanted
do you believe this. This is Julie Sue.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
And now to cap it all off, she's been appointed
Deputy Mayor of New York City for economic justice. Mom
Donnie posted on x welcome to a new era Julie Sue.
As former US Secretary of Labor, Julie Sue played a
central role fighting for workers, ensuring a day's pay for
(19:02):
a hard day's work, and saving the pensions of more
than a million union workers and retirees. And she shoveled
fifty five billion dollars in fraudulent claims taxpayer money out
the door.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And you know what's really crazy.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
When she went from being California Labor Secretary to US
Labor Secretary, she forgave the fraudulent spending that California was
responsible for because this was federal money and we should
have had to pay back a lot of that money.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
And Julie said, no, you're forgiven.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
She was the one who sent the money to all
the criminals and fraudsters, and in effect, she forgave herself.
Although California still ows twenty billion dollars, but that's another story.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
We come back.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Brad Garrett ABC News on the Insanity in Minneapolis and
you had the ICE agent killing that driver, and it
looks like there's a lot of protesters in Minneapolis right now,
a lot of law enforcement there.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
There have been some dust ups.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
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six forty.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Also setting a tone in my view for doing you know,
sworn law enforcement work, violent violation work for a long
time that you have to build relationships in communities. Now
they're not there to do that, but the way they're
treating people certainly makes it tough for someone to come
(20:45):
behind them and has a homicide in Los Angeles six
months from now and they get ruffed up by Ice
and they're from a country where you don't trust the
police anyway, You've now created another problem for yourself, right,
I mean, it can work against us, I think a
long time.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
This is what I think. Well.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
I think part of their goal was, because they constantly
point to the self deportation numbers, which are three times
higher than the deportation numbers, is to create this atmosphere that, yeah,
everybody's scared. They want to make everybody scared. They want
to make everybody upset, and that will get them to
you know, take three thousand dollars and head back home.
Speaker 6 (21:25):
Yeah, there is no doubt.
Speaker 7 (21:27):
There is no doubt.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So I don't know.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
It's it's a situation though.
Speaker 7 (21:33):
I don't think it's going to change.
Speaker 3 (21:35):
No.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
I don't think anybody in.
Speaker 7 (21:37):
DHS, in Ice, or in particular in the White House,
I have any desire to change anything. If anything, they'll
pick up their game and we may have this conversation again.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
All right, Brad, thanks for coming on with us again.
Speaker 7 (21:52):
You're welcome.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
Take care Brad Garrett and.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
He's the ABC News crime and terrorism analyst about the
shooting up in Minneapolis. Now, when we come back, more
on this, because you have the mayor of Minneapolis doing
everything he can to whip up all these protesters and
make them even more angry, more crazy, potentially more violent,
(22:16):
and he's going on national television and he can't stop cursing.
We'll play u some Jacob Fry clips. He was the
idiot mayor who oversaw the George Floyd twenty twenty riots
in Minneapolis. That's quite a team Fry and Tim Walls. Well,
we'll play some of Jacob Fry's clips when we return.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
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(23:05):
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Speaker 1 (23:24):
From They Let Us Burn. I got a lot going on.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
I'm on a podcast which has been released this week
called Stateofgold dot com. It's on California politics, Stateofgold dot com.
It's hosted by the tech entrepreneur John Slavitt. He's also
running for governor and he had me on and that
is at Stateofgold dot com. You could see that particular
(23:49):
episode and he's on YouTube.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yes, all right.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Next after two o'clock with Debra's News, Amy Reiker is
on you know about the massive daycare fraud scandal. With
the Somalians in Minnesota. Well, we've got a daycare fraud
scandal here in the San Diego area. No Somalians part
of this one, but hey, everybody's in on the fund.
(24:15):
Everybody's ripping off the government. And Amy Reichardt, who's an
independent internet journalist, is going to be on to explain
what she found in San Diego. Now, we just talked
with ABC News correspondent Bred Garrett about whether the shooting
up in Minnesota was justified or not. What you had
(24:35):
is the Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Frye and that idiot Governor
Tim Waltz. Waltz is the newsome of the Midwest. That's
how stupid he is. They random marricades right away, screaming
and yelling about the injustice of the shooting, before any
of them had seen much of the video. Because a
lot of the video I saw was after they were shouting.
(24:56):
And it's not enough just to shout and be indignant anymore.
You're required to curse because that makes you really cool.
When you curse. It it's like teenage boys. They're gonna
show their friends. I can curse too, Watch me drop
this f bomb. Unfortunately, we have to bleep this stuff out,
but you'll get the idea play cut number five.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
They are already trying to spin this as an action
of self defense. Having seen the video of myself, I
want to tell everybody directly that is this was an
agent recklessly using power that resulted in somebody dying.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
See, I don't think you saw all the videos. I
didn't even see it at first. You have to have
the right angle, and you see that the ICE agent
was directly in front of the car and then she
hits the gas pedal. Now, she started turning away as
she hit the gas pedal, but I could see that
in one of the video shots because the shot is
(25:58):
from behind and you look down at the bottom of
the screen and see the wheels turning. But he's standing
in front of the car. He can't really tell if
the wheels you're turning. He just sees the car coming
at him. So that's Fry pop it off and call
him things bs and maybe they're not. But then he well,
(26:18):
let's play cut number seven. Because he tripled the amount
of cursing on CNN with Anderson Cooper.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
The narrative that Ice is spinning immediately after this was
that this was purely self defense, and that the act
by the victim was some sort of domestic terrorism. That,
and I'll say it again, is that is the way
they've been conducting themselves is also and we all need
to be very clear eyed about what's happening, because, by
(26:44):
the way, this is not just about Minneapolis. This is
about the endurance of our republic. The things that are
taking place are not just illegal, they are unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
How about when law enforcement tells you get out of
the car, you get out of the car. And how
about when there's law enforcement standing in front of your car,
you don't hit the gas.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Oh, it's bringing down the republic, right anyway?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Cursing once not enough, Cursing three times not enough, because
that's just using the BS word.
Speaker 1 (27:19):
Let's go for the F bomb. Here's Jacob Fry again.
Speaker 8 (27:22):
Gwis, get out of Minneapolis.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
We do not want you here.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Oh okay, And you think Trump is going to pack
up and take ice out of there out, Sure he wins,
because the federal government, Trump's state and local government. If
you weren't a sanctuary city and a sanctuary state.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
You could help them get all the bad guys out
of that.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
You're harboring in your jails and in your prisons, help
protect them. I mean, why was this woman sitting there
for three minutes walking ice agents.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
With her car?
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Maybe if there was local law enforcement to help out,
she wouldn't be allowed to do that. You're whipping crazy
people up. You know you're doing it.
Speaker 1 (28:16):
And what you want? You want this to happen. You
want somebody to get killed.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Because then it gives you some juice. You're screaming, this
is unjust wrong, abusive power.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
Ah, now you got it. Huh.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
You manipulated everybody's emotions so you got the moment you wanted.
Woman gets a bullet in her head. How about cooperate
with the police, not only the mayor and the governor,
but this crazy lady. Can you imagine in your whole life,
if you had law enforcement surrounding your car. One of
them is trying to open your door and telling you
(28:52):
to get out. Another one is standing in front of
your car and telling you to get out of the car.
Can you imagine instead of that, instead of turning off
the engine, throwing your hands up and walking out, instead
of doing that, you hit the gas. Gee, what do
you think is gonna happen. Law enforcement standing in front
of your car. You hit the gas. Oh, but she
(29:15):
had her wheels turned. Guess what, You're gonna get shot,
and you're probably gonna get shot dead. That's just a
lesson of life, because whether it turns out he's right
or wrong or somewhere in between, she's still dead. Better
not to take on armed law enforcement when they're giving
you an order. It's kind of like a Dartwin's law.
(29:38):
I guess all right, we come back. Amy Reichardt to
the Internet journalist. She has found some maybe some daycare
fraud in San Diego. I mean, it's hard to believe.
Debor Mark live in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey,
you've been listening to the John Covelt Show podcast. You
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