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February 14, 2025 32 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (02/14) - Pacific Palisades resident and attorney Saied Kashani comes on the show to talk about LADWP hiring a law firm to defend against lawsuits from fire victims. More on the lackluster response by city and county officials to the fires in the LA area. A JP Morgan executive was caught going on a profanity laced rant against people who don't show up to work in leaked audio. A whale ate a kayaker and spit him right back out. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:02):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
This is one of those days. I think this.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
Should push people over the edge the incompetence and neglect
the stupidity of the people at DWP. And that has
been a corrupt, disgusting organization for as long as I've
lived here. I can't tell you how much time we
have spent over the years on DWP scandals, and now

(00:52):
to find out that they did not supply Pacific Palisades
with virtually any water. The reservoir, which was built in
nineteen sixty four for fire purposes. You have to understand this.
This reservoir was meant to be there to fight fires.
One hundred and seventeen million gallons was empty, as you know,

(01:14):
and then the waterflow into the Palisades was weak to
non existent. All fire hydrants didn't work, they'd all run
dry very quickly. And then of course you know the
firefighters weren't sent up in time or in great enough numbers.
But I want to focus here just on the DWP,
because now there's going to be literally thousands of if

(01:35):
not thousands of lawsuits, thousands of plaintiffs, and so the
LEDWP is now taking more of your ratepayer money, money
that they did not spend on building water mains that
carried enough water into the town, but they did not
spend on fixing and filling the reservoir. But they're going

(01:57):
to spend it on a bunch of lawyers, the firm
of Munger, Tolas and Olsen, to do an investigation, and
they're going to try to put up a defense after
destroying thousands of homes. We are going to talk now
with an attorney named Said Kashani, who we've had on
the show before. He is the gentleman, the resident of

(02:19):
the Palisades. He was burned out and he took it
to the DWP in person and right to Jennie Canonias,
demanding to know why they spend so much time on
diversity in equity and zero time on fixing the reservoir
or even talking about the reservoir. So let's get said
Kashani on welcome said, it's good to have you back.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Hello, Hello, John, It's good to be back. And you
are really peged that. It's amazing that the DWP could
have spent one hundred thousand dollars to fix this reservoir
a year ago, and now they're authorizing ten million dollars
for legal befests, ten million dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
This is stunning.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
Some of the lawyers are going to be charging almost
two thousand dollars an hour. The associates are going to
get up to eleven hundred dollars an hour. And the
city attorney who hired these characters, Heidi Feldstein Soto, claims,
this is a discount.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Rate that's unbelievable. A very very good lawyer in town
will charge under one thousand dollars an hour, which even
that seems very high. But that's a very very good lawyer.
There's no cause for any firm to be charging the
city of Courts of two thousand dollars an hour.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Are they going to put up a defense and what's
the defense going to be for? Not filling the reservoir.
Just we'll focus on that issue. I know there's many others,
but just that's the one that I find completely inexplicable, indefensible.
What's this law firm going to say about it for
two thousand bucks an hour?

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Well, we're already hearing I've already heard that the law
commission meetings. The defense are trying to put together here,
which is basically a whitewash, or call it gas lighting. Whatever.
Their defense is going to be that, oh, well, it
wouldn't have made any difference even if we had the
reservoir pull of your house would still have burned down. Well,

(04:16):
the first question is if that's the case, why did
you build a restaurant in the first place?

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That doesn't make any sense. But so that would I
think that would be their defense. And then there are
technical legal defenses, and they'll try to assert.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, I don't know how you sell to the people
in Palisades that one hundred and seventeen million gallons would
not have had an effect. I can't imagine what one
hundred and seventeen million gallons feels like. You know, if
you started dumping it on the homes, dumping it on
the you know, the row of flames coming in. That's
got to do something.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, it's not just it's not just a total amount
of water, but availability of flow. If you look at
the way the pipes are set up, you could have
had triple or more of the flow of water during
the fire if you had supply from the reservoir. As
it was, they had to pump all the water from

(05:14):
the east side of town. That's limited in what you
can deliver. If you had the reservoir, you could have
had much more flow of water. So it's not just
total water, but flow of water. So both of these
would have been much better if they had the reservoir.
But of course they had to drained and empty and
now you know they're paying the price and tried to

(05:34):
cover up.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
And it looks like since they built the thing in
nineteen sixty four, they never gave any thought to designing
a water system that would be able to take on
a wildfire. And they you had to know that the
Palisades was a possible target of a wildfire.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
The reason they built the reservoir was the.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Nineteen sixty one Bell Air Fire, which was just a
few miles over to the East, and that's why they
built the reservoir.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Exactly after that fire, the city realized that the systems
in place were generally not sufficient for fighting that kind
of fire. So they built not only the Palisades Reservoir,
but other reservoirs in town as well for this specific
purpose of having sufficient flow and sufficient water for this

(06:23):
type of fire. So here's another whitewashing here. The I
think the director of the DWT, Mis Crononas, has said, well,
we're not we're an urban water system. We're not we
can't fight wildfires. That's not correct. This system was set
up to fight wildfires, not just in house fires or whatever.

(06:45):
But it doesn't work if you drained the reservoir.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah, and if you have an urban environment, but there
there are wildfire possibilities within the borders of your urban environment,
you have to have a system to fight it.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
That that's what the like expects.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
I think the public was shocked that there wasn't an
infrastructure to take this on.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Well, it would have. It's not just that the DWP
drained the reservoir. They didn't tell anyone the reservoir was empty.
So residents were looking up at that reservoir hoping and
expecting that in a crisis it would be available. They
were never told that, Hey guys, your safety margin is gone.
You have no water in the reservoir. It's empty. I

(07:28):
don't think the DWP even told the fire department the
reservoir was empty.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
That's what I was wondering. Do you think Kristin Crowley
knew the fire chief? Do you think Karen Bass knew?

Speaker 3 (07:39):
They're not acting like they know. And let me tell
you another outrage on top of other outrages. DWP has
claimed that the delay in fixing the reservoir, which was
a very minor repair, that they said they had to
go through some competitive bidding. Well, they hired these lawyers
without competitive billing bidding, and they hired them on the
court unquote the emergency basis. There was no public tender,

(08:03):
there was no publicity, there were not the invitations to bid.
They privately interviewed three law firms and picked one, probably
the one I know longer holds an Olsen. They're a
fine firm, but they're very politically connected as well, So
let's keep that in mind.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Do you know what you just brought up is a
great point.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I I mean it is so frustrating to have to
deal with this. I mean, I'm kind of channeling. I mean,
I know you went through this terrible tragedy, right, you
lost your whole house. But I know some friends who've
gone through it, and this was utterly, if not preventable,

(08:48):
it was treatable in the early stages. Had they been
paying attention, you know, had they been doing the basics
of their job and getting up in the morning and saying, Okay,
we've got extreme fire danger here. What do we need
to do to maximize the chances that we could put
out earlier or mitigate the damage. And they did zero,
just absolutely zero, And that that's what's just I can't imagine.

(09:11):
I mean, you must wake up every day, just how
do you feel every day? How's your emotions progressed over time?

Speaker 3 (09:19):
Well, we're just trying to pick up the pieces literally,
and you know, we have to keep working for the
family and the children of us here the most important.
They lost their school as well. In fact, all most
of the schools in the area burned out. So you
have to think that here's the same group of children
that went through COVID and all their problems with remote learning.

(09:40):
Now the same group. They had all their schools burned out.

Speaker 1 (09:45):
Yeah, I know. I mean they'r no, don't go ahead.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
So they're you know, they're having the same problem you
have to. You have to think about them. That's that's
the biggest problem. And what do you tell them. You know,
this reservoir that was supposed to the Savior home was empty.
And let me point out something else too that again,
this is gaslighting going on, whitewashed by the LAEDWP. They're
spreading the story that there were sheets of plane just

(10:12):
just you know, a conflagration that swept across all the homes.
That is not the case. I talked to firemen, I've
talked to neighbors, gather a lot of information. There's a
lot on video too that shows that these fires did
not spread through huge sheets of plane. There were embers
that were blown and fell on the house. So these

(10:33):
fires started small. Yes, my neighbor on my street was
able to fight the fire on his house for quite
some time, just with a garden house. Because an ember
would fall, you have a little fire. He put it
out and then this house was safe until the water
was shut off. Once the water was shut off the
next Ember couldn't be put out and his house burned out.

(10:54):
So a little bit of water could have prevented that.
This is not the case where we had some huge
planes sweeping across the you know, the whole, the whole
pos destroying everything in this pause, that's that's not the case.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
It's so galling. There's such liars. Listen, thank you for
coming on against said Kashani. We'll talk with you again,
Thank you, no problem, thank you again. All right, more
coming up.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from kf I
A M six forty.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
We just had said Kashani on an attorney who took
it in person to the d WP a few weeks ago,
and we played his h his presentation twice, and we've
had him on twice because uh, he's very he's an
attorney too, he's very powerful spokesperson about the idiocy of
the d WP. And we're in the phase now where,

(11:46):
uh as as this really settles. I was talking about
just being aware of so many people involved in the fire.
You know, you go through a phase of shock and
then depression and sadness, and then this this anger starts
to build, like somebody's got to pay for this, and
I don't mean financially. Somebody has got to be fired.

(12:08):
This whole apple cart has to be upended. Bass Kristin Crowley,
the fire chief, deeniez the head of the d WP.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
And by the.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Way, there's a whole lot of diversity with that trio there,
and what did it amount to you talk about diversity
failure here? Bass appointed Kristin Crowley, Bass appointed Genie Canonias.
We have a disastrous group. We have idiots who have
hired idiots, and of course this was going to happen.

(12:43):
And one of the things that Sayid Kaseshani talked about
is the defense that the DWP is mounting. We cannot
put up with their lies. They are actively lying. Now
they're going to repeat the same lies over and over again.
That's rule number one with propaganda, going back to World

(13:05):
War Two.

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You build a big lie, you repeat it over and
over again.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
Eventually a significant percentage of the of the population will
believe it. In fact, if you can get your lie
out before the truth is discovered, then you're in. Because
people people's minds the flaw of human nature. But people's
minds are shaped often by the first thing they hear
about an issue, not the second or third thing six
months later, which is why all these reports are coming

(13:30):
out months later, because even if this reports are semi
honest and assigned proper blame, it's going to be hard
to compete with all the false stories that Bass and
Crowley and Keinonias are putting out now. And they're the
ones putting out these stories. They may have minions, they
may have attorneys and assistants and deputies are facilitating the

(13:53):
spread of the stories, but the stories are Bass, Crowley
and Canonias.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
The DWP.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
Is claiming that they were married to this idea that
we have to have a competitive bidding process and you
know that takes months.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
We have to follow the rules.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
No, they could have done this internally for one hundred
and thirty thousand dollars. They could have used their own people.
It was a pool cover. Basically, it was the cover
had torn. They claim that there was water quality requirements
that demanded that they drain the pool. The reservoir was

(14:33):
built to put out a fire. The quality of the
water doesn't matter when you're putting out a fire. They
built it in nineteen sixty four because of the bel
Air fire that was the primary purpose of the reservoir.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
They're lying.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
They have used it for water, but obviously they don't
need it for drinking water because they went a year
without it. They were just negligent, stupid that at their jobs.
And now they're lying. Wow, you know federal rules were required. No,
federal rules didn't acquire any such thing and all we
had to have the betting process. No, you didn't because

(15:12):
they didn't use the bidding process for these lawyers.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Because there was an emergency.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Well, going back to last spring, there's a fire season
coming in a few months, and we often have droughts.
We often go through six eight months without rain. You
declare an emergency, you get that cover fixed. They could
have done it in a month for one hundred and
thirty thousand dollars. They chose not to fix the cover.

(15:41):
They chose to drain the water. They never had to
drain it. If they drained it, they could have fixed
the cover quickly and they could have refilled it all
in time for the emergency situation of a wildfire. They're
saying the water system was built according to city standards. Well,
those city standards were we're bad and Bass and Garcetti

(16:03):
and the rest of them should have upgraded the water
system years ago instead of spending it on social issues,
like over a billion dollars a year for homelessness. This
was more important. The homeless are not that important. They
shouldn't be the center of the city budget. They shouldn't
be the center of our tax expenditures. Enough of that.
The center of it should be protection with police and fire.

(16:26):
That should be the center, not drug addicts and mental
patients snorting and shooting themselves up all day. How'd that
become the center of government? Oh, because you have all
those corrupt nonprofits connected to the politicians.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
That's why.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
It's the corruption and greed of everybody on the city
council and everybody at city Hall. That's why homelessness is
at the center. It's not they give a crap about
the homeless, dine in the streets.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
What they care about is getting the tax money, guilting you, emotionally,
manipulating you to pay tax money for homeless and nothing
ever helps the homeless. And they starved the fire department,
they starved the police department. Remember we have half the
fire department. And then they start lying like crazy, oh well,

(17:13):
filling up the reservoir wouldn't have made a difference. Yes,
it would have would have made a huge difference. Oh well,
you know we had We had to do it because
of water quality. Water quality doesn't matter when you're putting
out fires. That was a fire reservoir. That was two
fight wildfires. It wouldn't exist if we didn't have the
bell Or Fire of nineteen sixty one. They'd lie, they'd lie,
they'd lie, they'd lie, and then they lie again. And

(17:35):
this all comes from Bass, Crowley and Canonia's and they
know it, and everybody on the inside knows it. When
we come back, something in that in all crack Debra
what JP Morgan, the CEO Jamie Diamond, He was recorded
two minute rant against people who show up for work.

(17:55):
This is great, You know everybody should feel this way
talking about it.

Speaker 5 (18:01):
Coming up.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty one.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
More thing about this law firm Monger, Tolls and Olson
that's going to get ten million dollars to try to
defend the DWP for all the stupid cruel things they
did that caused so much damage in the Palisades fire.
What they other companies they represent has never reminded me

(18:29):
of this. When listening to your newscast, PG and E
the campfire that destroyed Paradise, eighty four people died. Pg
and E pled guilty to eighty four counts of involuntary manslaughter,
and then the Lahena fire as well.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
In Maui.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
They represented Hawaiian Electric Industries and Hawaiian Electric companies. Imagine
what you do for a living is defend companies and
individuals who, through their shoddy, greedy practices, burned down towns
and kill dozens of people.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
And then you go in and you charge.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
You go charge the people whose homes were destroyed two
thousand dollars an hour to fight them on their lawsuit.
That's what the good folks at Munger Tolls and Olsen do.
You ought to be very proud of yourselves. That's what
you do with your life. Cost the ratepayers two thousand
dollars an hour after you've destroyed their homes, after you've

(19:28):
killed some of their family members and neighbors.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Well, not the law.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Firm, but after the client that you're representing did that,
and that's what DWP did. DWP ended up killing people
in the Palisades and they ended up destroying thousands of
homes because of shoddy, stupid policies, greedy policies. And you
include all the mayors of the past twenty five years,

(19:54):
you include all the city council members. Everybody is responsible.
None of them will feel it because most of them
are sociopaths, and that they don't have any empathy. They
don't have any feeling or sense of responsibility. That's why
they get into politics. They get into politics, think because
they don't give a crap about people. All right, onto,

(20:16):
my new hero, Jamie Diamond may have heard his name.
He is one of the biggest names in finance. He's
the CEO of JP Morgan and he had a meeting
the other day and told off everybody else in his company.
He's fed up with people working at home. He's fed
up with zoom meetings. He's sorry he ever let any

(20:39):
of it happened. We got a couple of minutes here
and he just went off and I think every single
word is one hundred percent correct.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
Let's go a.

Speaker 5 (20:48):
Lot of you on the zoom and you were doing
the following, okay, you know, look at your mail sending text.
He showed over. He told the other person that you're
not paying attention, not reading your stuff, you know, and
if you don't think that blows down efficiency. Creativity creates
rudeness as it does. Okay. And when I found out
that people are doing.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
That, you don't do that my meetings.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
You're going to meeting with me. You got my attention,
you've got my focus. I don't bring my boat. I'm
not saying text with the people. Okay. It simply doesn't work,
and it doesn't work for creativity. It slows down decision making.
And don't emi to work from home Friday works. I
call a lot of people for Friday. They not a
person to get a hold of. But here are the problems, okay,
and they are substantial, okay, Which is the young generation

(21:35):
is being damaged by this. That means they may or
may not be in your particular staff, but they are
being left behind. They're being left behind socially ideas meeting people.
In fact, my guess is most of you live in
communities a hell of a lot less diverse than this room.
Every area should be looking to be ten percent more efficient.
If I was ready to part of one hundred people,

(21:55):
I guarantee you if I wanted to. I could run
it with ninety and be more efficient you.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
I could do it.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
I could do it in my sleep. And the notion
these bureaucracies, I need more people. I can't get it done, no,
because you're feeling that request that don't need to be done.
Your people are going to media, they don't need to
go to Someone told me to approve of his wealth
management that they had to go to fourteen committees. I
am dying to get the.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
Name of the fourteen committees.

Speaker 5 (22:21):
And I feel like firing fourteen chairman of committees. I
can't stand it anymore. Now you have a choice. You
don't have to work at JP Morgan. So the people
of you who don't want to work at the company,
that's fine with me. I'm not mad at you. Don't
be mad at me. It's a free country. You can
walk with your feet, you know. But this company's going
to set our own standards and do it our own way.

(22:43):
And I've had it with this kind of stuff. And
you know, I come in, you know, I've been working
seven days a week since COVID, and I come in
and where's everybody else? But they're here and there, and
the zooms and the zoomer don't show up and people
say they ain't get stup. So that's not how you
run a great company. We didn't build this great company
by doing that, by doing the same semi disease that

(23:04):
everybody else.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Does, same semi diseased bleep. Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Yeah, that's only part of it too. I'm want to
put that on a loop and just play it over
and over. I'm want to take it through the hallways,
put it on a sound system.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
We're here, it's Friday. We never got no go to
work Friday either, did we.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
Yeah, I'm just looking.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
I'm looking at a transcript because he just went off
about being on zoom. By the way, zoom is a
terrible way to spend your day. You know, there's certain
situations where you have a number of people at different
locations where it's very useful, right, and it saves a
whole lot of travel and whatnot. But you cannot spend

(23:49):
eight ten hours a day staring at screens. They have
found that people generally fall asleep, they're not paying attention,
they do other things or right, or do you do that,
Jeffrey Tuban, Then yeah, you start to lubin your tube
in there So one of my favorite clips, a lot
of you were on effing Zoom and you were looking

(24:09):
at your mail, sending texts to each other about what
an a hole the other person is not paying attention,
not reading your stuff, and others. People were acting like
they were in seventh grade. Right, that's exactly what goes
on in seventh grade when you're bored. You start passing
notes to each other and making fun of everybody else
in the room. And you know, I've realized that people
stop maturing a lot of them at about seventh eighth grade,

(24:32):
and that as you go on in life, people generally
revert back to that age. And having Zoom and not
having to leave the house facilitates more of that, because
now you're back in a boring classroom setting again instead
of being engaged and working and being an adult and
developing relationships. And you know, he just told me, because

(24:57):
you know what, the employees started brought up a petition
and they were passing this petition around demanding that they'd
be allowed to work in the office at least a
few days a week.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
And he said, that's your petition, petition. You know what,
you're getting a paycheck. You don't like the paycheck. Just
get out.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
Well, that's what he said. He said, you guys have feet.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
You know, go walk out.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
I won't be mad at you can.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I feel like, I don't know, it's been like twenty
years since I heard anybody talk like this. I mean,
this is the way the world always ran. This was unquestioned,
the way it was you. That was your expectation when
you went to work. You would have a guy like
this laying out these kind of rules and he's right
and you're wrong, and you can't sit in your under

(25:41):
roll all day or go riding around your bicycle at
one in the afternoon.

Speaker 6 (25:45):
Because COVID changed everything and a lot of bosses didn't
show up. So if the bosses aren't showing up right,
then the employees are are there saying, well, wait, why
are we showing up?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Some of us always showed up.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I don't care how many people sign that efing petition.
He said, that's great, boy, But you know, and this
is the same attitude that they have in Washington, DC
right now with all the you know, I saw a
new statistic seventy four no, what is it?

Speaker 1 (26:13):
What is it?

Speaker 2 (26:14):
Seventy five thousand people have taken the buy out because
ninety four percent of the people in Washington have not
been showing up for work.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Ninety four percent. That gets me mad. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Yeah, And they're out riding their bike in their underwear,
their underwear, in their underwear.

Speaker 6 (26:32):
Picture that I no, no, I really don't want to.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
Tom Homan is going to war as the borders are,
and he's going to war with New York politicians because
they're not cooperating. And Eric Adams, the New York City mayor,
is half cooperating, the governor, Kathy Hocheld not co operating.
Holman would like Hokeel removed his governor. We're gonna play

(27:04):
you some clips they were on Fox and Friends, Adams
and Holman, and that's quite entertaining. Two rounds of the
Moistline next hour as well. I the most fascinating video,
and I know everybody's been talking about this and maybe
you've seen it, is that that whale that at the
Kayaker Crazy.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Okay, I'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
But there was another event that happened between the tourists
and some ocean wildlife and there's a lesson here. Never
run up to a shark to take its picture. You
heard this story? No, uh, happened in the Caribbean. Oh
happened at Turks and Caicos. A Canadian woman fifty five

(27:51):
years old. She was waiting in the shallow waters and
she had her phone out and she saw a shark.
I don't know if she realized it was a shark,
but she wanted to get up close to it and
take a picture, and so she did.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
But I maybe take a selfie with the shark. I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Shark bit both her hands off. Yeah, Turks and Caicos.
Turks and Caicos. Every place you go, something bad happened.

Speaker 1 (28:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I saw some photos of this, not in the hands,
but of her line on the ground and the other tourists.
The crowd gathered around her. She made it back to
the beach and they wrapped cloths onto her arms to
try to stop the bleeding. She had one hand amputated
at the wrist and the other halfway up her forearm,

(28:47):
and she was also bitten in the thigh. Her husband
ran up and tried to fight off the shark because
they kept circling the woman and wanted to go after
her again. Finished the lady off, because that's you know,
it's true about blood and the water, right goes into

(29:09):
a frenzy.

Speaker 1 (29:13):
Don't do that. Do Canadians not learn about sharks in school? Well, Dan,
don't have many sharks up in Canada. Well I don't.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
I didn't see any sharks when I was in Turks
and Caicos. So maybe it was you know, you your
your first instinct is you want to.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Take a shark shark.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
I mean what I'm saying is if you're in the
water and you see something like that, you want to
take a picture so you can show off and show people.
I wouldn't want to be that close where the shark's
going to bite my hands off.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Uh, shark bites off Turks and Caicos are very rare,
That's what I thought. Only one unprovoked attack reported last year,
non fatal. In twenty twenty three, a woman had her
foot bitten off by a shark while snorkeling.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
And uh, yeah, I'm.

Speaker 6 (30:00):
Not going in the water ever again anywhere now, you.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Know around Did you go in the water, turk.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Car, Oh my god, I lived in the water. The
water was I mean seriously, John, amazing.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Okay, well you probably didn't know this, but the water
has gray reef sharks, nurse sharks, tiger sharks, bull sharks,
and hammerhead sharks.

Speaker 6 (30:19):
Yeah, I know that there has some that don't bother people.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
And you know your petite one bite.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
All I'm gonna say is this travel connection to Debra
is quite the teas for the moistline. All right, excellent,
And then quickly the humpback whale swallowing the kayaker. I
saw the video this morning. His dad took video from
another kayak. And the thing is, while his son got
swallowed and they got sped up by the whale, dad

(30:49):
kept the video.

Speaker 6 (30:51):
Yeho, Now how come that dad wasn't trying to beat
off the whale, beat up the whale, let my son go.

Speaker 1 (30:58):
He cared about going viral. That's right. I'm gonna put
this on TikTok. You imagine, I mean, millions of hits
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
And I saw, I saw the guy is a young
guy who got swallowed. And I guess the whale swallowed
him because you know, when a whale opens its mouth,
just a lot of water comes rushing in, right, And
so the kayaker was swept up in that wave and
then you open the mouth again and the kayaker flies out.
So I don't know if it was an intentional attack.

Speaker 6 (31:28):
But that guy is one lucky dude.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
His name is Adrian, and I like his His dad's
name is Dell. I thought Adrian Simancas is his dad's Dell.
And Dell can be heard in the video saying.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Stay calm, Stay calm. It's like Dad, I'm inside a whale.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
I mean, stay calm if you don't lose it when
you've been swallowed by a whale. And Adrian says, I
thought I was dead. I thought it had eaten me,
that had swallowed me up.

Speaker 1 (32:00):
Uh and uh then the whale like spin him out.
I guess incredible. I know. I just kept watching that
over and over again.

Speaker 6 (32:10):
I know you'd like that.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
I know that's that's That's what I did this morning
when we come back. What was I gonna do? What
did I say I was going to do?

Speaker 1 (32:17):
I don't remember.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Holman, that's right, Holman on Fox and Friends with Eric Adams.
Eric Adams is screwed because Trump has ordered the Department
of Justice to drop charges against Eric Adams, corruption charges
and now Adams has to do anything that Trump and
Holman says, or those charges are going to come back. Probably,
So he's got he's got Eric Adams dangling like he

(32:39):
has Newsome dangling. That's coming up next, Debra Mark Live
in the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. Hey, you've been
listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always
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