October 29, 2025 • 29 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (10/29) - Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about air traffic controllers being in their first full week of no pay amidst the government shutdown. The woman who runs LA's sanitation department is quitting. AI is starting to cause white collar jobs to disappear. Previewing the interview with attorney John Manly.
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could catch up on what you missed. First thing here
is Alex Stone, because you know we've we've talked about
this from time to time as the shutdown was approaching.
In Washington, d C. Air traffic controllers now are going
through their first full week without pay, and I'm sure
they're getting very hungry. And who wants hungry angry air
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traffic controllers? And for some reason, because of our stupid government,
nobody is saying, hey, why don't we pass a temporary
bill just to pay them.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, let's talk to Alex Stone. What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, as you mentioned, this is as we've been talking
about the shutdown for what almost a month now right
around that that they haven't been getting paid. Well, yeah,
but their paycheck two weeks ago had a little bit
of the pay period from before the shutdowns. They got
a little bit of money. This is now as of
what they were supposed to get on Tuesday, they had
no money going to their bank account. So now this
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is very real. This is a first paycheck where they
have gotten zero. And air traffic controllers and the TSA
they're turning to food banks. There's one of the Oakland Airport.
Now they're going to financial banks looking for zero interest
loans to get help and tell this is all over with.
But this week now the air traffic controllers, they are
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going to airports and they are handing out leaflets asking
for public support to put pressure on Congress and the shutdown.
And Mark Rausch is a controller handing out pamphlets at
Sea Tac Airport in Seattle, saying they got to do
what they got to do.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We continue to come to work each and every day.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We're a proud bunch, we're a professional bunch, and we're
all showing up to work every day for no pay.
So we're asking the public support to help us end
the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And John he says, yeah, controllers are now getting second jobs,
as we've heard about. He says, it is becoming more
common they're driving for Uber and door dash and instacart
to make ends meet, just have some money coming in.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But that that adds a.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Layer that he calls a risk into our flying system.
That they work long hours and oftentimes six days a
week anyway to fill all the staffing gaps, and now
during their off time they're driving for Uber and then
they come in and give clearance for takeoff from lax
or tell you that watch out for that traffic near you.
That they are running the skies even though they are doing.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
These other jobs. He says, that is a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We don't want to introduce a distraction into an air
traffic controller when they're plugging in and looking at the
runways and in the back of their head.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
They're like, I just ran out of money. I have
zero dollars in my bank account.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
How am I going to refill my vehicle so I
can come back tomorrow to not get paid?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
How am I going to put food on table? How
am I going to pay the rent?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So they're now putting pressure on the public at airports saying, hey,
back us up here, you know, call email your congress person,
tell them that enough is enough, that this is ridiculous.
Congress is getting paid, but these Congress is getting paid.
They are getting paid, but the essential workers are not.
And Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, he said on Sunday, forty
four percent of delays were because of staffing. Now as
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people are calling out sick, and you know, we've talked
about now for a month that this would go on,
and it's been ramping up. But even though they are
mandated to work, that if you're not getting paid and
you've got childcare and food and gas and everything else,
that some are just saying, you know what, I can't
come in. I'm not coming in. There was a ground
stop for LAX over the weekend for flights from the
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Bay Area and from southern California because they didn't have
enough staffing and so flights could not take off for
LAX during that time. And Duffy's saying, the controllers are
sending a very clear message to end this shutdown or
at least come up with some kind of a stop gap.
And he now giving that message from the controllers, say.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Figure out how you guys can negotiate, have a conversation,
but pay us in the introim. Make sure we get
paid for the work that we provide to the American people.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But definitely saying the President is not going to give
any wiggle room on this, that yeah, he understands whether
the air traffic controllers and TSA wh they're dealing with,
but he's not going to negotiate with the Democrats.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And so I don't think you're going to see the
President negotiate here because he has nothing to give up.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But John, even before all of this, the FAA was
about thirty five hundred air traffic controllers short of where
they needed to be. So that is why, even though
they're not getting paid, many are working mandatory over time.
Most are working now six days a week. So this
just makes all of that worse. But when they're not
working six days a week, they're driving for Ober and
handing out panthers. Nothing they negotiate here, just right a
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buil to pay in the air traffic controllers. Yeah, you
don't have to do a bill that solves every problem.
Just just pay the air traffic controllers. That's an emergency situation,
and that's what the controllers are saying. TSA is saying
the same thing that if they are being mandated, they
are different than that IRS worker. They Yeah, that is
tough that they're not getting paid, but they're not having
to go in and they're not working right now.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But if you are, it doesn't operate.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But if you are TSA or you are FAA, if
you're an air traffic controller, you're having to show up
every day, work six days a week, work extra hours,
and still not get paid. Something's got to give soon, Alex,
thank you very much. You got it, Thanks, John, Alex Stone,
ABC News here, John, Congress.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Should not be paid until they until this government shutdown
is overpay the air traffic controllers your.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Salaries, Yeah, and then you don't get paid.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They're necessary. These bozos in Congress.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Aren't necessary doing right now.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Lord, this is stupid and it doesn't matter what Trump thinks.
Congress and the Senate and they could pass a bill
and if Trump veto's it, they can override the veto.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So just pass it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Every congress person ought to pass a bill to pay
the air traffic controllers, which idiot's not going to do
that where.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
They forfeit their salaries.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they never suffer any consequences of their stupid management ever.
Just a bunch of bosos Why do you elect these people? Why?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
When we come back, you know, La is filled with garbage. No,
it's clean, it's filled with garbage. And uh, the woman
who runs the sanitation department is giving up. She's quitting.
I guess, too much garbage and she can't clean it up.
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Tared Bass wants to do something before the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
It's always the Olympics. I'm tired of the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
We have the most rats in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It just doesn't care about that that we're living with
an enormous number of friends until the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Another bozo.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
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Speaker 3 (07:15):
You're in Orange County.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know this entertainment a lot of people in Orange
County because you know, there's not much news in Orange
County these days, because everything is peaceful and quiet in
order to be there, and it must be really entertaining
to listen to how Los Angeles has devolved and disintegrated
into a third world hellhole. And I have to say
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I've been to a number of third world countries. We
went on a lot of traveling and to you know,
several dozen countries I haven't seen anything like what's in
LA and the worst parts of LA. Seriously, I'm sure
there is worse garbage pile ups, but you'd add the
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garbage with the zombies and the mental patients and the
drug addicts and the broken down streets and sidewalks. I
can't think of going to a country where I saw
it saw this. And it's not even.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Driving in a bad neighborhood anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You could drive in what used to be a pretty
decent area and see this, and the garbage really makes
them crazy, because that's not hard to pick up.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I grew up in a suburb.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was lower midol class, wedn't have much money. My
dad made about eleven thousand dollars a year, but everybody
in the neighborhood made about that much. And every property
was perfect, you know, the lawns were manicured, the driveways
looked nice, flowers were planted trees. I don't under you
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know this, this like offends my soul here. I didn't
grow up around this. I didn't grow up and I
don't think the hell holes you know, for years ago
were like this. So who's I We actually have a
Bureau of sanitation. You can't tell Barbara Romero runs it.
Never heard of her before, but she's quitting.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
Does it say how much she makes?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, I got to go looking down.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But in the story here in the La Times, it
says that, you know, there's been a series of lawsuits
over the years against the city by various business and
citizen groups, and they're working under a deadline, a legal deadline.
June twenty twenty six. They're supposed to remove ninety eight
hundred homeless encampments, like destroy them, anything that's a tent,
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a makeshift shelter, even r vs.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They're not gonna they're not gonna be able to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And then what happens, You're you're gonna have this, all
this busted up debris everywhere. And then what happens when
the homeless people come in and rebuild their shelters and
drag in new tents because they don't have to pay
for any of this. It's all funded by these sicko nonprofits,
probably funded with our tax money. In fact, when you
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go around you see these shelters in these tents, that's
your tax money, because the nonprofits get the money from
the government. Well, Bess Apparently it's suddenly interested in picking
up garbage because the Olympics are coming. Pisses me off.
Pisses me off some much. The Olympics have come.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And you know what's going to happen after the two
weeks when the Olympics are over, No.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
One's gonna care.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Everything's going to go.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Back to crap yep Romero is pointed by Garcetti. And
it was during the Garcetti years I noticed that the
garbage and the fifth started piling up. And she will
not say why she's leaving or even if she has
another job, and Karen Bass will not comment on this.
Wonder what happened here? There are environmental groups who are
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frustrated and angry that she's leaving. Why our environment is
filthy and foul? Do you know the sanitation department is
one of the largest in the city. How many employees
do you think they have?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
One hundred three thousand? Where are they?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I never see any three thousand employees. Their budget is
more than four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, what do they do all day? What's it spent on?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You got four hundred million dollars, three thousand employees, and
there's more garbage and filth that I've ever seen anywhere
in my life. I've got to Central American countries, South
American countries, Asian countries. Poor never seen this, Excuse me.
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And they're jacking up trash removal fees fifty six dollars
a month, up from thirty six dollars for a single
family home. It was thirty six dollars for a single
family home, twenty four dollars for three and four unit
apartment properties. Now that's fifty six a month. It's gonna
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give them two hundred million dollars, and there's more fee
hikes coming through twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But they don't pick up the garbage, so where's the
money go.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It says that there's discarded fast food wrappers everywhere, you know,
in a lot of the poor neighborhoods. Why do poor
people throw their garbage on the ground.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Why do they do that?
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I think it's everywhere. I go walking in my neighborhood
and I.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
See fast food stuff everywhere, paper cups, and there's trash
cans everywhere.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
People are lazy.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it's with such disgusting slots.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So there's going to be the visitors coming for the
World Cup, then the Olympic Games, and uh so Bass
is trying to come up with something called shine La.
She wants thousands of citizens to participate in monthly cleanups.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
No, you do it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Let's go back to the three thousand employees and the
four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I have to get up in the morning and clean.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Other people's garbage. That yeah, John, I want to see that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You got seventy thousand homeless people living in the street,
and I'm so, and you do you get up and
clean up?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, I want to touch their syringes. I've got a
job a goop up their feces.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Did she really say this?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Bess said, it's about choosing to believe in our city
again and proving it with action.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We have to.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Prove it, John.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You have to be a good Angelino and do your duty.
That's your community service.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Block by block, we will come together to be stronger,
more unified.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
No, you pick up the garbage. We pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're paying taxes, and then we're paying these fifty six
dollars a month fees, and then I have to go
and clean up other people's trash. You mean all the
drug addicts, all the junkie zombies out there and mental patients.
She's unbelievable. She's absolutely positively nuts.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Do you imagine that? Oh, you gotta pick What do
you mean, I gotta pick it up? I threw my
garbage and I threw my garbage in the trash can.
That's what I do. I take out the trash.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
John, You're gonna give yourself a heart attack.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Holy crap. All right, more coming up.
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Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, I'm very careful. There's a lot of like
trendy stories.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That are that are published every day claiming that, you know,
the economy is doing this, and this industry is doing that,
and people are going to be out of work here,
and you know, there's like health trends and and a
lot of it is just nonsense. It's it's just publications
trying to you know, gin up clicks. This one, I
think I got this feeling that this is for real.
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I listen often to business channels and the AI thing
is is super real, and it's starting to cause tens
of thousands of people to lose their jobs, white collar people,
office workers, cubicle workers. It's gonna be real bad soon.
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And this was the there for quite some time, and
there's but a lot of hype about AI. Then there
was counter hypes saying it's all overblown. They were saying
the stock market was overheated. Probably it's not. There is
so much. There's just hundreds of billions of dollars in
AI investment going on with the major tech companies like
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Amazon and Google and Facebook, Meta and all that, and
then all the companies that are not in tech, all
the office service companies, manufacturing companies, just about everybody, especially
if you're a large organization, you're going to use AI
unless you're using it already, and they're going to need
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far fewer people to work. So this Wall Street Journal
story headline is tens of thousands of white collar jobs
are disappearing. And this is what got me. This is
not a prediction, this is not a computer model. This
is they're gone already. Amazon this week they're cutting fourteen
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thousand corporate jobs. And this is everybody sits at a
desk in a chair. Ten percent of its white collar
workforce is going to be cut eventually. Ups they're reducing
its management workforce by fourteen thousand positions. Well, they did
it already over the last two years. Target says they're
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cutting eighteen hundred corporate positions Rivian Automotive, Molson Coors, the
Rear company, Booze, Allen Hamilton General Motors. Thousands either have
been let go or they will be let go soon.
You add it up, and it's tens of thousands of
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white collar workers going into a job market which stinks
because everybody, all the other companies are laying people off too.
And I remember, oh, maybe ten years ago, I had
a couple of friends and they were up on this
stuff back then, and they were carrying on about how
wonderful this is. I go, well, what are you going
to do when you have potentially millions of people who
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aren't working? And they thought that there'd be so much
wealth created that you could just tax the wealthy companies
and then everybody can get a check from the government
to sit at home.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And I said, what do you think is going to
happen next?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So you're gonna have millions of people sitting at home
with nothing to do, with a limited check and no
hope that it's going to increase.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You're gonna have riots in the streets.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But all I'm hearing from the business experts today is, well,
there's going to be better productivity, and somewhere down along
the line, they're gonna it's gonna create new jobs. And
one guy came up with this analogy. It's like, well,
you know, when when they came up in a lawnmower.
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You know a lot of people who used to have
to cut the grass by hand, I guess with scissors.
They were out of work. But new jobs were created
at the lawnmower factory. I don't know if there's a
replacement though here for all the white collar people who
do input work on their computer terminals. Of course, it's
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much more efficient, more productive. It's gonna save the company
is a lot more money. Everything's going to get done
very fast at no cost, which I understand all that,
But what do you do with all the bodies at home?
So here's how it works, Amazon Whole Foods Market. Here's
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one woman. Five thirty in the morning on Tuesday, Kelly
Williamson woke up to a text. The text says, and
this probably was a bot. Review this as soon.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
As possible, and stay home from work today.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And her job on the asset protection team was being eliminated,
her badge and her laptop deactivated.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
She has ninety days to.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Look for another job at the company, and they're mailing
her her personal belongings. Oh nice, not even the last
day at work to say goodbye, because they don't want
anybody coming up and shooting up the place. Two million
people have been without a job for twenty seven weeks
or more because this is going on for a while.
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And here's one guy, Chris Reid, thirty three years old.
He had a job in technology sales for ten years,
more than ten years, lives in Texas, has three kids ten,
eight and six, stay at home wife and mom. And
he had to take a job selling toyotas because he
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spent ten months looking for work. He applied to more
than a thousand jobs. He goes, I'm in tech, I'm qualified,
I have the experience. He didn't get any of the jobs.
You know why because for some people, like if you're
forty years old, what you know about tech is outdated.
And these new tech AI jobs that are going to
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be created. Is not for you. You're not going to
catch up. They're going to have very young people who
have lived for years already with AI. I hate to
be doom in gloom, but and normally I don't do
these stories. But if they're listening to all reading this,
I think this is what's happening and future generations.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I mean, these people that are creating these AI jobs,
don't they care about their family members and their children
and grandchildren and great grandchildren. Are they just assuming they
are going to have so much wealth that their family
members are just going to sit around and just.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Really, you know what? You know what?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The the issue is the all your competitors are going
to do this. So if you don't do this to
be a humanitarian and save these jobs, your profit margin
is going to be much lower than the competitors. And
a lot of these companies are publicly owned, and the
investors who won't put up with it, they'll kill your
stock and they'll overthrow the management until you do put
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in the AI.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
So you're gonna have all these white collar workers working
as housekeepers in people's homes.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, well, to replace all the illegal aliens that we
deported going back to Chris Reid, he applied to thousand jobs,
got none of them, and he couldn't pay for his food,
his gas, utilities, car payments. He emptied out his four
oh one K, He sold his stocks, sold the cryptocurrency
he had even sold, and this got to me the
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Pokemon cards that he collected with his son to sell
your kids Pokemon cards. His home was put in a
foreclosure when he couldn't make mortgage payments. Finally, a friend said,
why did you take this job selling toyotas? So he
drives two hours or more each day and works over
twelve hours trying to sell toyotas, doesn't see his kids
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very much. He wakes up before they go to school
and by the time he comes back there in bed.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
This is bleak.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
This is bleak. This is not good.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And I was listening to the to the you know,
the investor guys on the business channels today, and they
always do the big ra ra right, but these guys
are caught short when they were asked about, well, what's
going to happen to the jobs, and their raw ra
stop dead.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's like, well down the road and create jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, you tell Chris Reid, you know down the road
you'll be able to pay for that mortgage. In the meantime,
the bank will fourk and your kids will be in
a tent. There's no answer for it because it's happening.
And like I said, when you're in a competitive business environment,
if your competitors are doing it, then you've got to
do it too. But you know there's gonna be there's
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gonna be millions of people out of work and soon.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
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Speaker 8 (24:47):
I'm sure people will have something to say about Karen
Bass wanting to clean up trash.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Oh, yes, wanting you to clean up trash.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
She they have three thousand employees at the sanitation department
and it's they spend forty They spend four hundred million
dollars a year, and they're raising the trash rates from
somewhere in the thirties to the fifty six dollars. But
she wants everyone to join her and clean up LA's garbage.
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By the way, the homeless people, all the vagrants and
mental patients, they get to stay in the streets and
continue to throw garbage and feces around. After you've cleaned up,
then you come back the next week and you clean
up the new syringes and garbage and feces from the
homeless people. That that's Karen Bass's plan. Because the twenty
twenty eight Olympics are coming, I don't care. I hope
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the whole world comes here. God forbids she's still the mayor.
I mean, that's the only hope to have a clean
LA if if she gets defeated for mayor. But that's
really up in the air right now, isn't it right enough?
John Manley coming on, that's just a ridiculous story here,
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did you I'm going to talk more about this well
obviously next hour. John Manley from Manly, Stuart and finalde
They had a press conference today, and they say there
should be a state and federal criminal investigation of LA
County because, as you heard, there have been decades, decades
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of sexual abuse going on in county detention facilities of
young young men, mostly young women. There's also been thousands
of fraudulent claims, and the county taxpayers are on the hook.
First it was four billion dollars and now LA County
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has agreed to pay another eight hundred and twenty eight
million dollars on top of it, so we're talking almost
five billion dollars. Because because La County employees were sexually
abusing all these kids for many, many years, and when
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this four billion dollar story broke, everybody goes, wow, that's crazy.
But they're borrowing money to pay this that's not going
to be paid off till the year twenty fifty one.
A lot of people are going to be dead and
they're still going to be paying off. And I don't
understand why I'm on the hook or you're around the hook,
or anybody's on the hook for these sex perverts that
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the county hired. There's something wrong here. There's something wrong.
I mean billions of dollars. Nobody investigated this for years.
And you know a lot of people in the county
know done, why do we have so many perverts in
county government? And this is what are the five wise
women who run the county into the ground, the county supervisors,
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this is what they approved of till the slice.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Janis Hahn uh But what Catherine Barger, what's the other two?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh, Lindsey Horvath and Holly Mitchell. That's a fifth one.
Nobody knows who these people are. And these five women
have just blown it's it's five billion dollars on a
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bunch of creepy sexual monsters that the county employed for
many years and didn't get rid of them the first
time they had a complaint. Well, John Manly is going
to come on. They filed the first cases in the litigation.
Now his company's representing more than two hundred female survivors
who are molested as young girls. And so these are
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these are these are a lot of girls. The whole
thing's outrageous. Well, and all the suffering that these kids
went through. But I mean, Santa Monica is going bankrupt
because of a pervert who molested all these boys working
with the police athletic teams That's Next. Deborah Mark is
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could catch up on what you missed. First thing here
is Alex Stone, because you know we've we've talked about
this from time to time as the shutdown was approaching.
In Washington, d C. Air traffic controllers now are going
through their first full week without pay, and I'm sure
they're getting very hungry. And who wants hungry angry air
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traffic controllers? And for some reason, because of our stupid government,
nobody is saying, hey, why don't we pass a temporary
bill just to pay them.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, let's talk to Alex Stone. What's going on.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Yeah, as you mentioned, this is as we've been talking
about the shutdown for what almost a month now right
around that that they haven't been getting paid. Well, yeah,
but their paycheck two weeks ago had a little bit
of the pay period from before the shutdowns. They got
a little bit of money. This is now as of
what they were supposed to get on Tuesday, they had
no money going to their bank account. So now this
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is very real. This is a first paycheck where they
have gotten zero. And air traffic controllers and the TSA
they're turning to food banks. There's one of the Oakland Airport.
Now they're going to financial banks looking for zero interest
loans to get help and tell this is all over with.
But this week now the air traffic controllers, they are
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going to airports and they are handing out leaflets asking
for public support to put pressure on Congress and the shutdown.
And Mark Rausch is a controller handing out pamphlets at
Sea Tac Airport in Seattle, saying they got to do
what they got to do.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
We continue to come to work each and every day.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
We're a proud bunch, we're a professional bunch, and we're
all showing up to work every day for no pay.
So we're asking the public support to help us end
the shutdown.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
And John he says, yeah, controllers are now getting second jobs,
as we've heard about. He says, it is becoming more
common they're driving for Uber and door dash and instacart
to make ends meet, just have some money coming in.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
But that that adds a.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Layer that he calls a risk into our flying system.
That they work long hours and oftentimes six days a
week anyway to fill all the staffing gaps, and now
during their off time they're driving for Uber and then
they come in and give clearance for takeoff from lax
or tell you that watch out for that traffic near you.
That they are running the skies even though they are doing.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
These other jobs. He says, that is a problem.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
We don't want to introduce a distraction into an air
traffic controller when they're plugging in and looking at the
runways and in the back of their head.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
They're like, I just ran out of money. I have
zero dollars in my bank account.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
How am I going to refill my vehicle so I
can come back tomorrow to not get paid?
Speaker 1 (03:00):
How am I going to put food on table? How
am I going to pay the rent?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So they're now putting pressure on the public at airports saying, hey,
back us up here, you know, call email your congress person,
tell them that enough is enough, that this is ridiculous.
Congress is getting paid, but these Congress is getting paid.
They are getting paid, but the essential workers are not.
And Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, he said on Sunday, forty
four percent of delays were because of staffing. Now as
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people are calling out sick, and you know, we've talked
about now for a month that this would go on,
and it's been ramping up. But even though they are
mandated to work, that if you're not getting paid and
you've got childcare and food and gas and everything else,
that some are just saying, you know what, I can't
come in. I'm not coming in. There was a ground
stop for LAX over the weekend for flights from the
(03:47):
Bay Area and from southern California because they didn't have
enough staffing and so flights could not take off for
LAX during that time. And Duffy's saying, the controllers are
sending a very clear message to end this shutdown or
at least come up with some kind of a stop gap.
And he now giving that message from the controllers, say.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Figure out how you guys can negotiate, have a conversation,
but pay us in the introim. Make sure we get
paid for the work that we provide to the American people.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But definitely saying the President is not going to give
any wiggle room on this, that yeah, he understands whether
the air traffic controllers and TSA wh they're dealing with,
but he's not going to negotiate with the Democrats.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
And so I don't think you're going to see the
President negotiate here because he has nothing to give up.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
But John, even before all of this, the FAA was
about thirty five hundred air traffic controllers short of where
they needed to be. So that is why, even though
they're not getting paid, many are working mandatory over time.
Most are working now six days a week. So this
just makes all of that worse. But when they're not
working six days a week, they're driving for Ober and
handing out panthers. Nothing they negotiate here, just right a
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buil to pay in the air traffic controllers. Yeah, you
don't have to do a bill that solves every problem.
Just just pay the air traffic controllers. That's an emergency situation,
and that's what the controllers are saying. TSA is saying
the same thing that if they are being mandated, they
are different than that IRS worker. They Yeah, that is
tough that they're not getting paid, but they're not having
to go in and they're not working right now.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
But if you are, it doesn't operate.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
But if you are TSA or you are FAA, if
you're an air traffic controller, you're having to show up
every day, work six days a week, work extra hours,
and still not get paid. Something's got to give soon, Alex,
thank you very much. You got it, Thanks, John, Alex Stone,
ABC News here, John, Congress.
Speaker 6 (05:35):
Should not be paid until they until this government shutdown
is overpay the air traffic controllers your.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Salaries, Yeah, and then you don't get paid.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
They're necessary. These bozos in Congress.
Speaker 7 (05:46):
Aren't necessary doing right now.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Lord, this is stupid and it doesn't matter what Trump thinks.
Congress and the Senate and they could pass a bill
and if Trump veto's it, they can override the veto.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
So just pass it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Every congress person ought to pass a bill to pay
the air traffic controllers, which idiot's not going to do
that where.
Speaker 7 (06:10):
They forfeit their salaries.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Yeah, they never suffer any consequences of their stupid management ever.
Just a bunch of bosos Why do you elect these people? Why?
Speaker 1 (06:28):
All right?
Speaker 2 (06:29):
When we come back, you know, La is filled with garbage. No,
it's clean, it's filled with garbage. And uh, the woman
who runs the sanitation department is giving up. She's quitting.
I guess, too much garbage and she can't clean it up.
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Tared Bass wants to do something before the Olympics.
Speaker 7 (06:56):
It's always the Olympics. I'm tired of the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
We have the most rats in the country.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
It just doesn't care about that that we're living with
an enormous number of friends until the Olympics.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Another bozo.
Speaker 8 (07:09):
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Speaker 3 (07:15):
You're in Orange County.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
I know this entertainment a lot of people in Orange
County because you know, there's not much news in Orange
County these days, because everything is peaceful and quiet in
order to be there, and it must be really entertaining
to listen to how Los Angeles has devolved and disintegrated
into a third world hellhole. And I have to say
(07:39):
I've been to a number of third world countries. We
went on a lot of traveling and to you know,
several dozen countries I haven't seen anything like what's in
LA and the worst parts of LA. Seriously, I'm sure
there is worse garbage pile ups, but you'd add the
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garbage with the zombies and the mental patients and the
drug addicts and the broken down streets and sidewalks. I
can't think of going to a country where I saw
it saw this. And it's not even.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Driving in a bad neighborhood anymore.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
You could drive in what used to be a pretty
decent area and see this, and the garbage really makes
them crazy, because that's not hard to pick up.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
I grew up in a suburb.
Speaker 5 (08:29):
It was.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It was lower midol class, wedn't have much money. My
dad made about eleven thousand dollars a year, but everybody
in the neighborhood made about that much. And every property
was perfect, you know, the lawns were manicured, the driveways
looked nice, flowers were planted trees. I don't under you
(08:52):
know this, this like offends my soul here. I didn't
grow up around this. I didn't grow up and I
don't think the hell holes you know, for years ago
were like this. So who's I We actually have a
Bureau of sanitation. You can't tell Barbara Romero runs it.
Never heard of her before, but she's quitting.
Speaker 7 (09:15):
Does it say how much she makes?
Speaker 3 (09:17):
No, I got to go looking down.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But in the story here in the La Times, it
says that, you know, there's been a series of lawsuits
over the years against the city by various business and
citizen groups, and they're working under a deadline, a legal deadline.
June twenty twenty six. They're supposed to remove ninety eight
hundred homeless encampments, like destroy them, anything that's a tent,
(09:47):
a makeshift shelter, even r vs.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
They're not gonna they're not gonna be able to do that.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
And then what happens, You're you're gonna have this, all
this busted up debris everywhere. And then what happens when
the homeless people come in and rebuild their shelters and
drag in new tents because they don't have to pay
for any of this. It's all funded by these sicko nonprofits,
probably funded with our tax money. In fact, when you
(10:19):
go around you see these shelters in these tents, that's
your tax money, because the nonprofits get the money from
the government. Well, Bess Apparently it's suddenly interested in picking
up garbage because the Olympics are coming. Pisses me off.
Pisses me off some much. The Olympics have come.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And you know what's going to happen after the two
weeks when the Olympics are over, No.
Speaker 7 (10:46):
One's gonna care.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Everything's going to go.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Back to crap yep Romero is pointed by Garcetti. And
it was during the Garcetti years I noticed that the
garbage and the fifth started piling up. And she will
not say why she's leaving or even if she has
another job, and Karen Bass will not comment on this.
Wonder what happened here? There are environmental groups who are
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frustrated and angry that she's leaving. Why our environment is
filthy and foul? Do you know the sanitation department is
one of the largest in the city. How many employees
do you think they have?
Speaker 7 (11:32):
One hundred three thousand? Where are they?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
I never see any three thousand employees. Their budget is
more than four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Well, what do they do all day? What's it spent on?
Speaker 2 (11:47):
You got four hundred million dollars, three thousand employees, and
there's more garbage and filth that I've ever seen anywhere
in my life. I've got to Central American countries, South
American countries, Asian countries. Poor never seen this, Excuse me.
(12:13):
And they're jacking up trash removal fees fifty six dollars
a month, up from thirty six dollars for a single
family home. It was thirty six dollars for a single
family home, twenty four dollars for three and four unit
apartment properties. Now that's fifty six a month. It's gonna
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give them two hundred million dollars, and there's more fee
hikes coming through twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But they don't pick up the garbage, so where's the
money go.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
It says that there's discarded fast food wrappers everywhere, you know,
in a lot of the poor neighborhoods. Why do poor
people throw their garbage on the ground.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Why do they do that?
Speaker 7 (13:06):
I think it's everywhere. I go walking in my neighborhood
and I.
Speaker 6 (13:09):
See fast food stuff everywhere, paper cups, and there's trash
cans everywhere.
Speaker 7 (13:16):
People are lazy.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, it's with such disgusting slots.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
So there's going to be the visitors coming for the
World Cup, then the Olympic Games, and uh so Bass
is trying to come up with something called shine La.
She wants thousands of citizens to participate in monthly cleanups.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
No, you do it.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Let's go back to the three thousand employees and the
four hundred million dollars.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
I have to get up in the morning and clean.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
Other people's garbage. That yeah, John, I want to see that.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
You got seventy thousand homeless people living in the street,
and I'm so, and you do you get up and
clean up?
Speaker 5 (13:56):
No?
Speaker 2 (13:56):
Yeah, I want to touch their syringes. I've got a
job a goop up their feces.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Did she really say this?
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Bess said, it's about choosing to believe in our city
again and proving it with action.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
We have to.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
Prove it, John.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
You have to be a good Angelino and do your duty.
That's your community service.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Block by block, we will come together to be stronger,
more unified.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
No, you pick up the garbage. We pay taxes.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're paying taxes, and then we're paying these fifty six
dollars a month fees, and then I have to go
and clean up other people's trash. You mean all the
drug addicts, all the junkie zombies out there and mental patients.
She's unbelievable. She's absolutely positively nuts.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Do you imagine that? Oh, you gotta pick What do
you mean, I gotta pick it up? I threw my
garbage and I threw my garbage in the trash can.
That's what I do. I take out the trash.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
John, You're gonna give yourself a heart attack.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Holy crap. All right, more coming up.
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Speaker 3 (15:10):
You know, I'm very careful. There's a lot of like
trendy stories.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
That are that are published every day claiming that, you know,
the economy is doing this, and this industry is doing that,
and people are going to be out of work here,
and you know, there's like health trends and and a
lot of it is just nonsense. It's it's just publications
trying to you know, gin up clicks. This one, I
think I got this feeling that this is for real.
(15:37):
I listen often to business channels and the AI thing
is is super real, and it's starting to cause tens
of thousands of people to lose their jobs, white collar people,
office workers, cubicle workers. It's gonna be real bad soon.
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And this was the there for quite some time, and
there's but a lot of hype about AI. Then there
was counter hypes saying it's all overblown. They were saying
the stock market was overheated. Probably it's not. There is
so much. There's just hundreds of billions of dollars in
AI investment going on with the major tech companies like
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Amazon and Google and Facebook, Meta and all that, and
then all the companies that are not in tech, all
the office service companies, manufacturing companies, just about everybody, especially
if you're a large organization, you're going to use AI
unless you're using it already, and they're going to need
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far fewer people to work. So this Wall Street Journal
story headline is tens of thousands of white collar jobs
are disappearing. And this is what got me. This is
not a prediction, this is not a computer model. This
is they're gone already. Amazon this week they're cutting fourteen
(17:06):
thousand corporate jobs. And this is everybody sits at a
desk in a chair. Ten percent of its white collar
workforce is going to be cut eventually. Ups they're reducing
its management workforce by fourteen thousand positions. Well, they did
it already over the last two years. Target says they're
(17:31):
cutting eighteen hundred corporate positions Rivian Automotive, Molson Coors, the
Rear company, Booze, Allen Hamilton General Motors. Thousands either have
been let go or they will be let go soon.
You add it up, and it's tens of thousands of
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white collar workers going into a job market which stinks
because everybody, all the other companies are laying people off too.
And I remember, oh, maybe ten years ago, I had
a couple of friends and they were up on this
stuff back then, and they were carrying on about how
wonderful this is. I go, well, what are you going
to do when you have potentially millions of people who
(18:15):
aren't working? And they thought that there'd be so much
wealth created that you could just tax the wealthy companies
and then everybody can get a check from the government
to sit at home.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And I said, what do you think is going to
happen next?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
So you're gonna have millions of people sitting at home
with nothing to do, with a limited check and no
hope that it's going to increase.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
You're gonna have riots in the streets.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
But all I'm hearing from the business experts today is, well,
there's going to be better productivity, and somewhere down along
the line, they're gonna it's gonna create new jobs. And
one guy came up with this analogy. It's like, well,
you know, when when they came up in a lawnmower.
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You know a lot of people who used to have
to cut the grass by hand, I guess with scissors.
They were out of work. But new jobs were created
at the lawnmower factory. I don't know if there's a
replacement though here for all the white collar people who
do input work on their computer terminals. Of course, it's
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much more efficient, more productive. It's gonna save the company
is a lot more money. Everything's going to get done
very fast at no cost, which I understand all that,
But what do you do with all the bodies at home?
So here's how it works, Amazon Whole Foods Market. Here's
(20:00):
one woman. Five thirty in the morning on Tuesday, Kelly
Williamson woke up to a text. The text says, and
this probably was a bot. Review this as soon.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
As possible, and stay home from work today.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
And her job on the asset protection team was being eliminated,
her badge and her laptop deactivated.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
She has ninety days to.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Look for another job at the company, and they're mailing
her her personal belongings. Oh nice, not even the last
day at work to say goodbye, because they don't want
anybody coming up and shooting up the place. Two million
people have been without a job for twenty seven weeks
or more because this is going on for a while.
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And here's one guy, Chris Reid, thirty three years old.
He had a job in technology sales for ten years,
more than ten years, lives in Texas, has three kids ten,
eight and six, stay at home wife and mom. And
he had to take a job selling toyotas because he
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spent ten months looking for work. He applied to more
than a thousand jobs. He goes, I'm in tech, I'm qualified,
I have the experience. He didn't get any of the jobs.
You know why because for some people, like if you're
forty years old, what you know about tech is outdated.
And these new tech AI jobs that are going to
(21:32):
be created. Is not for you. You're not going to
catch up. They're going to have very young people who
have lived for years already with AI. I hate to
be doom in gloom, but and normally I don't do
these stories. But if they're listening to all reading this,
I think this is what's happening and future generations.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I mean, these people that are creating these AI jobs,
don't they care about their family members and their children
and grandchildren and great grandchildren. Are they just assuming they
are going to have so much wealth that their family
members are just going to sit around and just.
Speaker 1 (22:06):
Really, you know what? You know what?
Speaker 2 (22:07):
The the issue is the all your competitors are going
to do this. So if you don't do this to
be a humanitarian and save these jobs, your profit margin
is going to be much lower than the competitors. And
a lot of these companies are publicly owned, and the
investors who won't put up with it, they'll kill your
stock and they'll overthrow the management until you do put
(22:29):
in the AI.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
So you're gonna have all these white collar workers working
as housekeepers in people's homes.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Yeah, well, to replace all the illegal aliens that we
deported going back to Chris Reid, he applied to thousand jobs,
got none of them, and he couldn't pay for his food,
his gas, utilities, car payments. He emptied out his four
oh one K, He sold his stocks, sold the cryptocurrency
he had even sold, and this got to me the
(22:55):
Pokemon cards that he collected with his son to sell
your kids Pokemon cards. His home was put in a
foreclosure when he couldn't make mortgage payments. Finally, a friend said,
why did you take this job selling toyotas? So he
drives two hours or more each day and works over
twelve hours trying to sell toyotas, doesn't see his kids
(23:19):
very much. He wakes up before they go to school
and by the time he comes back there in bed.
Speaker 7 (23:29):
This is bleak.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
This is bleak. This is not good.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
And I was listening to the to the you know,
the investor guys on the business channels today, and they
always do the big ra ra right, but these guys
are caught short when they were asked about, well, what's
going to happen to the jobs, and their raw ra
stop dead.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
It's like, well down the road and create jobs.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Well, you tell Chris Reid, you know down the road
you'll be able to pay for that mortgage. In the meantime,
the bank will fourk and your kids will be in
a tent. There's no answer for it because it's happening.
And like I said, when you're in a competitive business environment,
if your competitors are doing it, then you've got to
do it too. But you know there's gonna be there's
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gonna be millions of people out of work and soon.
Speaker 3 (24:18):
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Speaker 8 (24:47):
I'm sure people will have something to say about Karen
Bass wanting to clean up trash.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Oh, yes, wanting you to clean up trash.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
She they have three thousand employees at the sanitation department
and it's they spend forty They spend four hundred million
dollars a year, and they're raising the trash rates from
somewhere in the thirties to the fifty six dollars. But
she wants everyone to join her and clean up LA's garbage.
(25:18):
By the way, the homeless people, all the vagrants and
mental patients, they get to stay in the streets and
continue to throw garbage and feces around. After you've cleaned up,
then you come back the next week and you clean
up the new syringes and garbage and feces from the
homeless people. That that's Karen Bass's plan. Because the twenty
twenty eight Olympics are coming, I don't care. I hope
(25:40):
the whole world comes here. God forbids she's still the mayor.
I mean, that's the only hope to have a clean
LA if if she gets defeated for mayor. But that's
really up in the air right now, isn't it right enough?
John Manley coming on, that's just a ridiculous story here,
(26:02):
did you I'm going to talk more about this well
obviously next hour. John Manley from Manly, Stuart and finalde
They had a press conference today, and they say there
should be a state and federal criminal investigation of LA
County because, as you heard, there have been decades, decades
(26:22):
of sexual abuse going on in county detention facilities of
young young men, mostly young women. There's also been thousands
of fraudulent claims, and the county taxpayers are on the hook.
First it was four billion dollars and now LA County
(26:47):
has agreed to pay another eight hundred and twenty eight
million dollars on top of it, so we're talking almost
five billion dollars. Because because La County employees were sexually
abusing all these kids for many, many years, and when
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this four billion dollar story broke, everybody goes, wow, that's crazy.
But they're borrowing money to pay this that's not going
to be paid off till the year twenty fifty one.
A lot of people are going to be dead and
they're still going to be paying off. And I don't
understand why I'm on the hook or you're around the hook,
or anybody's on the hook for these sex perverts that
(27:34):
the county hired. There's something wrong here. There's something wrong.
I mean billions of dollars. Nobody investigated this for years.
And you know a lot of people in the county
know done, why do we have so many perverts in
county government? And this is what are the five wise
women who run the county into the ground, the county supervisors,
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this is what they approved of till the slice.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
Janis Hahn uh But what Catherine Barger, what's the other two?
Speaker 1 (28:07):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (28:07):
Oh, Lindsey Horvath and Holly Mitchell. That's a fifth one.
Nobody knows who these people are. And these five women
have just blown it's it's five billion dollars on a
(28:28):
bunch of creepy sexual monsters that the county employed for
many years and didn't get rid of them the first
time they had a complaint. Well, John Manly is going
to come on. They filed the first cases in the litigation.
Now his company's representing more than two hundred female survivors
who are molested as young girls. And so these are
(28:51):
these are these are a lot of girls. The whole
thing's outrageous. Well, and all the suffering that these kids
went through. But I mean, Santa Monica is going bankrupt
because of a pervert who molested all these boys working
with the police athletic teams That's Next. Deborah Mark is
(29:12):
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