June 17, 2025 • 34 mins
The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (06/17) - Art Arthur from the Center for Immigration Studies comes on the show to talk about how many illegal immigrants have self-deported from the United States since Pres. Trump took office for the second time. The legal battle between Pres. Trump and Gov. Newsom will continue on later this week as court is adjourned for the day. Don Mihalek comes on the show to talk about the latest on the shooting of two Minnesota lawmakers over the weekend. Would you rather be shot with a non-lethal round in the testicle or the eye?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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was thrown around by christinomes security. So just just out
of compassion for Eric, we're gonna get Art Arthur on.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Art is with the Center for Immigration Studies, and he
had a story and yesterday that they published in the
New York Post yesterday that caught my eye because it's
really barely covered and it's a big deal. For all
all the talk about Trump's ice deportations, many more have
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self deported and hardly makes a ripple in the media.
Let's get right Arthur on Center for Immigration Studies.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
How are you, John, I'm doing great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
So the estimate is anywhere seven hundred and fifty thousand
to a million have left on their own.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, and actually the latest census data for last month
has just come out, so we're busting that down now
at the Center for Immigration Studies CIS dot org. And
I think the number might actually be even higher than
I had postulated. But yeah, we're talking about somewhere between
a million foreign workers who have dropped out of the
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workforce since March and one financial whiz at trend micro
who thinks it's been about one hundred and ninety three
thousand people per month who have left the country. Now,
keep in mind John Ice admits that it's deported about
just over two hundred thousand people. Those other people had
to have gone somewhere and they went home.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So how do you even try Do you know how
these analysts even tracked to get an estimate that's in
the ballpark.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, when you're talking about, you know, the immigration issue,
you know you're going to have people on both sides
who throw numbers at one another. But when you look
at the financial analysts, and all of this was driven
by the June unemployment numbers. Those people make their money
by estimating how many workers there are in the economy,
and in particular how many foreign workers there are. And
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by the way, I note the fact that the White
House put out a press release this afternoon California, North
carolta time that indicated that real wages, blue collar wages
john have increased nearly two percent since Donald Trump took office.
And the two things are very closely tied. Many most
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of the of the migrants who come to this country
and lawfully are going into those blue collar jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
They're in direct competition.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
With American workers. And I say that, I mean citizens
and lawful immigrants, and when they leave, employers have to
pay them more money. We don't have a twenty dollars
minimum wage like you guys have at fast food ressaurants
in California. So you know, it's an open market in
most of the country. And you know, when people go
when they're not available for those jobs, you know, wages
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go up and the economy grows.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And they can tell of the percentage of foreign born
workers in any given month.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, Actually, there are a number of metrics that you
can find in the census date of the community population
survey that will indicate you know, who is foreign born
and who's not again, it's foreign born, it's not. You know,
some of those people have naturalized, but we can sort
that out by looking at the naturalization numbers and figure
out how many people how many foreign born people are
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here now. The illegal population is a lot more difficult
to identify, but generally we can use proxys to determine,
you know, who those people are and determine what their
status is.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Is there any information from the government about the CBP
app because the Trump administration is asking people to self deport,
register on the app to leave, and you'll get one
thousand dollars and you'll get some preferential treatment if you
want to come back legally. Do we have any data
on that?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So we know that about ten thousand people have used
the CBP Home app. That's the old CBP one app
that Biden was using the funnel hundreds of thousands of
people into this country. About ten thousand people have taken
Christynom up on her offer to be paid a stipend
when they get back home. But the vast majority of
these folks, John are doing what people have traditionally done
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when there's enforcement. We saw it under Eisenhower, we saw
it under George w Bush. We're seeing it today. You know,
they're cashing out. They've made their money. You can go
back to San Pedro, Sola On, you know, the wages
that you'd barely get buy and you know Santa Barbara
on and you know, live pretty well. You can rebuild
your life. And they most of these people, we can
all agree on that came here, you know, simply for
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economic reasons. They've made their money. It's expensive to live
in this country. It's a whole lot cheaper to go
back home.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
There's always been this claim that the illegal aliens come
here and do the jobs that Americans won't do. But
if you're you're telling me that people are leaving by
the hundreds of thousands, and salaries for blue collar workers
are going up to percent, presumably they're getting Americans to
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do these jobs.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Absolutely. And you know, I started my legal career more
than three decades ago in construction law. And if you
go to most job sites today, you will see that
most of the people who are working there, you know,
don't speak English, which suggests that they're you know, didn't
go to the Los Angeles Unified School District, so you know,
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the you know, those were traditionally jobs that were handed
down father to son. They were strong union jobs. It
was only when we had this massive wave of people
come into the United States, you know, in the early
two thousands, and then again more recently than Americans left
those jobs. There are no jobs that Americans won't do.
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In fact, I think there are seven hundred and fifty
different job categories Department of Labor tracks, and only four
of them have a majority immigrant component. And even in
those industries, you know, housekeeping, agriculture, there's still a significant
number of Americans will do them. You Know, what I
tell people is if you told me I could sneak
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into Saudi Arabia illegally and get paid two million dollars
a year to pay houses, I'd at least give it
a thought. And you know, that's the wage differential that
we're talking about. For most of these people, they'll do
the jobs cheaper. And let's face it, job most of
the employers that hire these folks are just skirting the
immigration laws. They're skirting the wage and our laws and
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ocial laws, all those other laws.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Because I live on the West side of LA and
people have are employing a lot of illegal immigrants. You know,
for housekeeping, for childcare, for gardening, for construction, you name it,
and that none of them would admit, though, if you've
pushed them up against the wall, that they're paying these
people very cheaply, that they're exploiting these people.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, and that really is the rub when you talk
about all of this. You know, you have immigrants advocate
immigrant advocates who are out there banging the drum in
Los Angeles literally talking about how much they care about
immigrant communities. But one, they're demanding that criminals be turned
back into those immigrant communities, to be released from custody
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and not be given over eyes. And two they're standing
by while, you know, those immigrants who are exploited, and
they justify it by saying, well, you know, the work
for the wage, or you know, they need to get
by or they need to support themselves. And of course
that is self serving and fatuous. I mean, it's it's
probably the most ridiculous argument that I could hear.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
If you care about you.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Know, working conditions and wages and people being able to
earn it, you know, an honest living for an honest
day's work, you want to restrict immigration the way that
the law actually says it should be restricted. Nobody wants
to see immigration cut off. But simply follow the laws
and you'll be surprised at how quickly, uh, you know,
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communities improved, the streets are safer. You know again, we're
going to have an immigrant community in this country. We
always have and we always will. But just follow the
follow the rules, and you know you'll see that everybody's
boat rises.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
All right, Arthur, always good talking with you, Center for
Immigration Studies, Thank.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Done.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
All right, Art, It is always interesting to talk to
you because he spends he spends his days immersed in
all these kinds of numbers.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know it's funny is.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Look at the farm workers because I always hear these
progressive types, the west Side type is going.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh but it's so cruel.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, they just come here to work, and I'm thinking,
do you know how little they're paid? Do you know
what their living conditions are like on these farms? It
is like almost sub human living conditions. It's exceptionally cheap.
Pay well you know how much you know it costs
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you more for your strawberries, wouldn't it. And I'm thinking
that's what you're in for it. That's that's what turns
you on is cheap strawberries. You don't care about these
people because the first thing they'll say is, well, you
know the price of strawberries that go up? Yeah, bingo,
that's what you care about. Why don't you pay a
premium for the strawberries and at least maybe these workers
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would make real money. This is just what I don't understand.
It's like you get cheap food. They are being paid
dirt and you're telling me that, a that's a good deal. Now,
what's a bad deal for them? It's nice that they're
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making more money compared to being at home.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But they're being exploited and abused.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You never you never see you never see people, especially
on my side of town, who want the immigrants to
make more money in the fields. They always talk about
how well you don't have the price of strawberries to
go up. They are phonies, they're hypocrites, their virtue signalers.
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there is no decision, no immediate ruling on whether Trump
or Gavin Newsom controls the state's national Guard.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I guess I don't know. Are they done for the.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Day or That's what I'm trying to figure out. Did
they decide to go home or they're.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Gonna or is this just a status report right as
of them sending out this news bulletin.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
There it's in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So yeah, the hearing start at one o'clock and Barrel
Ooks or maybe C News came on with us at
about five after one and he said things were wrapping up.
I mean, they do issue lengthy statements frequently.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's like seventy two page decisions, so that takes a
while to write and organize.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I vote they put you in charge. Oh I would
immediately invade Oregon.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Okay, So what I'm being told is they have adjourned
for the day to revisit.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
This later this week.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
To revisit it later this week. Now Royal's opinion. Because
we couldn't hear this hearing live, it was online. It
was being streamed, and Royal watched it and he thought
the two Trump appointees were very skeptical of the Newsom
team's arguments, and that even the Democratic appointed judge, because
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it's a three judge panel, was also questioning a lot
of the rationale behind the Newsom team's legal position. So
he thought he was pretty confident that it was going
to go Trump's way, but you never know. But they didn't.
None of the judges seemed to indicate any real hostility
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to the Trump side, especially considering the way Stephen Bryer
treated the Trump lawyers last week.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And you know, there's.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now that we're nearing the end of this particular riot
cycle because the mayor, you said, the mayor.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Has the cours done.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Okay, so let's say it appears that the riot cycle
is over. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of
police activity for a while downtown. In the end, what
did the National Guard do? They simply guarded the Primarily
they just guarded the federal buildings, the one downtown and
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the one in Westwood, and they guarded the employees who
work in those buildings. The Marines didn't do anything to
get involved in the ride at all, and the National
Guard involvement was very limited. I read once that they
accompanied some ice officers on some raids, but ice officers
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are federal employees, so to me, that falls under the
uh under protecting federal employees that mandate. But I don't
I wasn't aware. I mean, if it happened, you know,
we'd hear about it, right. I wasn't aware that they,
either the Marines or the National Guard had anything to
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do with suppressing actual rioters. All the craziness you saw
in the streets was from either LAPD or the La
County Sheriff's Department or maybe a few other law enforcement
agencies that were helping out. But I didn't see the
National Guard do anything with the riders, and didn't see
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the Marines certainly, So the whole thing became moot. But
this is a good template because you know, as they
continued the deportation proceedings around the country, there are so
many violent left wing organizations that have now been mobilized.
We are going to see more of this over the
summer because Trump clearly is not giving up. And you
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know these guys, these these Antifa style groups, they're into
anarchy and they're very well funded.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Hey, John CNN is saying that Homeland Security Secretary Christine
Nome has been taken to a hospital. I have no
idea what's going on with her, but it's breaking news sources.
That's CNN is citing sources that Christie no Home has
been taken to a hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Nothing else though, huh No.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
By ambulance.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
By ambulance, So we will I mean, she's so young.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It doesn't seem like there would be many medical conditions
that you know, would affect her that would cause an
emergency run to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's weird. Yeah, I mean I had my speculation. I'm
going to keep it in my head.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, there's no reason to speculate because it could be
a number of things.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, Alex Media didn't get near her.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
I knew you were going to say something likele he.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Owed her one, didn't he? All Right? More coming up,
Deborah Mark is, Oh, who do we owe you? Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, speaking of this, Don Mahallick's coming on. He's ABC
News law enforcement contributor, retired Secret Service agent and the
weekend's Ruckus was the terrible shooting death of the former
Democratic House speaker in Minnesota, Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark.
They were shot to death and shot and wounded was
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a Minnesota state Senator, John Hoffman and his wife Yvett.
The killer is Vance Bolter. He's up on federal and
state charges. And we're going to get some analysis from
Don Mahallock about the whole situation because a lot of
lawmakers all over the country they're trying to get their
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private information off the internet.
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question for men only. Question for men only, would you
rather be shot with a rubber bullet in the eye
or in the testicle?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I so discriminated against you.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Do you have a testicle?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Then you are not eligible.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, the affair in the next fifteen minutes you acquire Okay,
I'll let you know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Don Mahawick's coming on now.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
ABC News Law enforcement contributor, retired Secret Service agent. There
are a lot of public officials that are scrambling around
trying to get their private information off the Internet, which,
as you know, is very difficult. And this is after
the former Democratic House Speaker in Minnesota, Melissa Hartman, was
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murdered her husband murdered as well in their house at
three thirty in the morning. Also shot was a state Senator,
John Hoffman and his wife. They were shot multiple times, survived.
Vance Bolter is in federal custody facing a slew of
federal and state charges. Let's get Don mahalic on. Don,
thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Thanks having me John.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, you know, there are thousands of legislators in this country.
It's virtually impossible to protect everybody. This first step of
trying to get your private information off the internet? Is
that even possible because if you look online, it looks
like there are dozens, hundreds, thousands, maybe of these internet
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sites that carry all kinds of information because most of
it's in public databases.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, so let's go back in time. Back in time
when they were still phone books. You know, you had
the option to have an unpublished number, which would take
your name, your address, and your phone number out of
the phone book, so if somebody looked you up, they
couldn't find you. That has completely disappeared because of the Internet.
All of this, all of our protected information is publicly
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available if you want. There are search engines that you
can pay for to get an entire report about you,
your family, your relationships, everything. So we went from one
extreme to the other. And I think Congress has missed
the ball with this. They should have acted as soon
as the Internet started and put some rules into place
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that prevented this proliferation of private information. Could they do
it now? Yes, Congress could pass the law and order
all of these cyber companies to scrub and not sell
this kind of information. It would take time, they could
do it, and the bottom line is they would lose money,
which is what our information is. Our information is worth
money to them, it's valuable. So that's the reason there
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has been this push. I cannot do that tyqually. What
happens is when states or when Congress has passed these laws,
it gives you the option to have it scrubbed. It's
not a mandate. Congress has changed the option to a
mandate and let the cyber companies start start doing what
they need to do to protect everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So is it that these the cyber companies are well
funded and they provide a lot of campaign contributions and
lobbyist money, and so Congress never gets around to mandating
that they scrub all the private information.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I would say the cyber industry right now is worth
trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars and probably spends
several hundred million, if not billions, on lobbying state and
the local governments and the federal government about, you know,
laws related to the Internet and whatnot. For years, they
pushed back against Congress about self regulation. They wanted to
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self regulate, and so Congress took trepidacious steps about putting
laws in place about the but a lot of the
laws that are in place are outdated, old, because the
Internet has evolved and the laws have it. I think
it's time for Congress, from a safety perspective to pick
up the gauntlet or throw down the gauntlet and say enough,
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we need we need to put a wall up here,
and the wall needs to be clear.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I'm astonished how far back the information goes. I mean,
when I've looked online, it has people's homes and phone
numbers going back thirty years or more, probably the start
of the Internet. And there's also a lot of wrong
information as well.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, so you've got information, you know, your entire history
is there, and then there's wrong information. So you've got
this quagmire personally identifiable information that's available, some right, some wrong,
all dangerous. So why do we, as the American people
stand to have our information that available? I mean, I've
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tried over the years to go on and scrub this
and scrub that, but as we all know, some other
search engine pops up. It would be a full time
job to do that. It is almost impossible for any American,
let alone elected official or otherwise, to actually get their
information scrubbed from every corner of the Internet, because there
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is not a law that mandates it, and the cyber
companies don't make it easy if you try to go
on and get something scrubbed, you know, trying to find
where you have to click, and where you have to
send an email, and who you have to email.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's complicated for a lot of these Well, I know
Google has a service. You have a Google account, and
you can make a request that they will approach all
the Well, first of all, they'll do a scan, right,
They'll do a Google scan and a list all the
sites that have your personal information, and then if you
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ask Google, they in turn will request from these sites
to delete the information. But some of the sites say no,
we won't do that, and then I guess you're stuck.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Right, So we're beyond the point of asking. It should
be telling at this point in time, and that telling
should comes from the federal government. Look, the cyber companies
have enough other ways to make money. They don't need
to sell your my home address and phone number and
data birth you know, to do that. They can recoup
that in other ways. But what it does for me
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and you, and the elected officials and the police officers
who have been swatted at docks and everything else, is
it gives them a level of protection that they don't
have now that used to be in play before this
thing got out of control.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
What else could lawmakers do to protect themselves. I mean,
most of them live in ordinary homes and ordinary neighborhoods.
They don't have security. And you certainly wouldn't expect a
guy to put on a rubber mask and show up
at three point thirty in the morning dressed as a
cop and then they shoot you to death. I mean
that kind of thing. I guess there's no way to
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protect yourself other than never answered, well, even if it
looks like the police.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, but there are some basic personal safety and protective
things I think people forget about from time to time.
And if you're a lawmaker, you know, it should be
part and parcel. And if you become a lawmaker, local, state, federal,
investing in a ring doorbell camera, security surveillance system, alarm
systems that should just become part of your home at
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this stage of the game. Having the police know where
your home addresses and having them do checks on your
house and having the police department's number in your phone
should be part of your part of your you know,
part of just living if you're one of these officials.
The other thing is, you know, I used to have
a friend of mine who the community policing would tell homeowners,
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don't open the door unless you can kiss and hug somebody.
And people say, in this situation, the guy was dressed
like a cop, looked like a cop. But I read it.
But I read a news story that said when the
couple opened the door, they said, you're no cop. So
had they taken the time to talk through the door,
or to talk to a ring doorbell camera, or and
then call mine when won and verify if it was
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a police officer at their house, because let's face it,
cops don't show up at people's house at two or
three o'clock in the morning randomly. If they're set there,
they're dispatch there. You know that, in and of itself,
may have prevented what happened. Not trying a Monday morning
quarterback what happened. But those are the type of safety
steps if you're an elected official you should be taking
to keep yourself safer.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
All right, Don mhallick, thank you for coming on with
us again.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Thanks for having me John all right, he's.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
The ABC News LA Enforcement contributor hired secret service agents.
All Right, when we return first time for this game,
would you rather take a rubber boat in the I
or in the testagon? I get to play Eric. It's
to play the debor's opting out.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I'm opting out. I have no choice. Well, you said
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I said you had fifteen minutes to acquire a testical.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I guess nothing else.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I still don't have one.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, so you'll just watch. Yeah, Well, you're really afraid
of anything.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I say, I'm not afraid at all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're waring.
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would you rather get a rubber bullet in the eye
or in the testicle? And uh to give you further details,
We're going to play you a story by uh Hold
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on ABC seven reporter. Oh, it's Cigar Cia again.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
They just started opening fire on us, just spraying and
obsived amount of rubber bullets just everywhere.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
And Marshall Ruddruff is recovering at the hospital. He was
one of the tens of thousands of protesters for the
No Kings Day demonstration Saturday in downtown Los Angeles. He
says it was peaceful until it got ugly, and that's
when he says he was in by rubber bullets fired
by local law enforcement.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
The bullet fractured my cheek and it tore part of
my eye open and I had to go into surgery
for about four hours or five hours to get it
repaired that night. And it's questionable how much vision I'm
going to be able to get back or you know
how much I'm going to be able to see out
of my right eye right now, it's just a giant
(27:32):
question mark.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
The LPD and Sheriff's Department say their officers were assaulted
with water bottles and bricks. They declared an unlawful assembly
and went in to break up the protests. Mostly according
to the LPED, there were a number of peace officers
injured as well. Marshall's friends, Jazz Egger and Gavin Prophet,
have been keeping him company during his hospital stay. They
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set up a GoFundMe account to help pay for his
medical bills. Gavin says he was at the protest close
to where Marshall was when things, as he put it,
from from peaceful to police moving in.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
I think everyone that's out there is peacefully protesting. I
know that there is bad apples in any situations, but
I don't think that the force that was used to
repel the peaceful protesting was justified at all.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
America is being divided right now, and I believe we
have to stand to get it. No matter what side
you're on. We have to support one another, no matter
regardless of ethnicity. Race or political affiliation. Because love is
the only way.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Somebody that love is the only way.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So what you said, love is the only way?
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Love is the answer because love is the only way.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Oh no, really, Yeah you didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
No, I mean, I mean somebody. I'm a cop and
somebody's throwing a brick at my head.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
You say love is the only way.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I'm just supposed to love him back. Yeah, same thing
about with a bottle bottle of brick. I'm just supposed
to say, please come here. I know you threw a
brick at my head.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
I love you anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I love how The people have picked up on this
phrase peaceful protest, and they constantly repeat it like it's
some kind of prayer. If the police are shooting rubber
bullets because somebody was throwing bricks and bottles at them,
(29:28):
it was not a peaceful protest. Maybe you wanted it
to be a peaceful protest, but all these things end
up being a riot.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
They always do. It doesn't matter what it was like
at ten in the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
By the late afternoon, people get frustrated because they didn't
just thrown the king. This is what I was talking
about yesterday. They woke up yesterday morning, Trump was the king.
They went to bed last night, Trump was the king.
They wake up this morning, Trump is the king. You
could throw rocks and bottles. He's still the king. And
now you're under arrest. And this guy's part of his.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
Eye because love is the only way, all right.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Bringing us to the question.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Now, yesterday we brought you the guy whose testicle exploded.
He got the rubber bullet in the grind and badly
bruised one testicle. I don't know if it's the right
or the left, and then the other one exploded and
they tried to stitch the pieces back together, and he
(30:26):
hasn't been able to stand up for ever since. So
the question is, Eric, I'll go to you rubber bullet.
You want it in the eye or in the testicle? Oh,
this is pretty easy for me. Definitely the eye.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, I would say too. Yeah, I would take it
in the eye too. Well, I have another eye, and also.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
You have another testicle.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, yeah, bruised.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Not sure if it works right, Yeah, So I'd much
rather lose my eyesight and play that sympathy card to
try and be able to use my testicle. In fact,
you'll end up you using your testicles a lot more.
If that's what I'm saying, end up losing your eye.
I mean, that is a great line to drop. Uh No,
I agree with him. It's a two nothing in favor
of keeping the testicle. The hell with the eye. I
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don't have to see anything anymore anyway. I've seen enough.
And the way people look these days, most of them
look disgusting.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
So they do.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Everybody's over fed.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
It's just you are, ah, you are?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, yes, I mean, well, there has to be a limit.
I'm not talking about it, you know, having an extra
ten or twenty pounds. I'm talking about being unsightly and
wearing either clothing that's too tight or too revealing. And
there's a lot of that, and it's men and women.
It's one thing if you've you've got a big, you know,
(31:54):
blob of fat hanging over your belt, but but cover
it up.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You'll agree with me. I know you do.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
I'm not saying a word.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
When you see somebody who's got a huge load of
blubber hang it over. Yeah, you don't think silently to
yourself like geez, put on a shirt.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm taking the lady. Cover that up. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
This is less and less enjoyable things to look at
these days. Sorry, anyway, we're in agreement on that. See,
I think I figure most guys would say that, most
guys would choose a shot in the eye over a
shot in the testicle. I don't think a shot in
the testicle like that. I don't think that pain.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Ever goes away.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I don't think the eye pain would ever go away.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
You don't have a testicle that is remarkably resilient pain
that is.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
I have nothing to say to that.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It just a wow that we might have experiences you haven't.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
I do allow for that. Love is all we need.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Though, when when we come back, I want to play
you well since since Padilla got thrown around by Christie
Noom's workforce. Oh, by the way, do you get the
bulletin on Christine Nomes?
Speaker 7 (33:12):
What do you mean the bulletin?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well, update on why she was rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Why, why was she a why?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Probable allergic reaction?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
So I thought Padilla taking a shot at her, but
that that was that was a bad rumor, Uh, she's
allergic to something. When we come back, there is a
guy running for mayor in New York City named Brad
Lander and this guy decided to take on UH immigration
officers and try to cover for an illegal immigrant at
(33:45):
a courthouse. And he and all these people are so
pompous and self righteous. So this is the new stunt
is for politicians to UH somehow interfere with ice, and
Badilla went on the floor of the Senate and was
crying about it.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Let's see what this guy did.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
When we come back, Brad Lander cannedy for mayor in
New York Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four
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Alex Padia. We have more Alex Padia to play later
(00:23):
on in the show because for no other reason than
Eric Clark put in so much time enduring this lengthy
emotional speech Padilla crying and moaning over the way he
was thrown around by christinomes security. So just just out
of compassion for Eric, we're gonna get Art Arthur on.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Now.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Art is with the Center for Immigration Studies, and he
had a story and yesterday that they published in the
New York Post yesterday that caught my eye because it's
really barely covered and it's a big deal. For all
all the talk about Trump's ice deportations, many more have
(01:06):
self deported and hardly makes a ripple in the media.
Let's get right Arthur on Center for Immigration Studies.
Speaker 4 (01:15):
How are you, John, I'm doing great, Thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
So the estimate is anywhere seven hundred and fifty thousand
to a million have left on their own.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Yeah, and actually the latest census data for last month
has just come out, so we're busting that down now
at the Center for Immigration Studies CIS dot org. And
I think the number might actually be even higher than
I had postulated. But yeah, we're talking about somewhere between
a million foreign workers who have dropped out of the
(01:47):
workforce since March and one financial whiz at trend micro
who thinks it's been about one hundred and ninety three
thousand people per month who have left the country. Now,
keep in mind John Ice admits that it's deported about
just over two hundred thousand people. Those other people had
to have gone somewhere and they went home.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
So how do you even try Do you know how
these analysts even tracked to get an estimate that's in
the ballpark.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Well, when you're talking about, you know, the immigration issue,
you know you're going to have people on both sides
who throw numbers at one another. But when you look
at the financial analysts, and all of this was driven
by the June unemployment numbers. Those people make their money
by estimating how many workers there are in the economy,
and in particular how many foreign workers there are. And
(02:40):
by the way, I note the fact that the White
House put out a press release this afternoon California, North
carolta time that indicated that real wages, blue collar wages
john have increased nearly two percent since Donald Trump took office.
And the two things are very closely tied. Many most
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of the of the migrants who come to this country
and lawfully are going into those blue collar jobs.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
They're in direct competition.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
With American workers. And I say that, I mean citizens
and lawful immigrants, and when they leave, employers have to
pay them more money. We don't have a twenty dollars
minimum wage like you guys have at fast food ressaurants
in California. So you know, it's an open market in
most of the country. And you know, when people go
when they're not available for those jobs, you know, wages
(03:28):
go up and the economy grows.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
And they can tell of the percentage of foreign born
workers in any given month.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, Actually, there are a number of metrics that you
can find in the census date of the community population
survey that will indicate you know, who is foreign born
and who's not again, it's foreign born, it's not. You know,
some of those people have naturalized, but we can sort
that out by looking at the naturalization numbers and figure
out how many people how many foreign born people are
(04:00):
here now. The illegal population is a lot more difficult
to identify, but generally we can use proxys to determine,
you know, who those people are and determine what their
status is.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Is there any information from the government about the CBP
app because the Trump administration is asking people to self deport,
register on the app to leave, and you'll get one
thousand dollars and you'll get some preferential treatment if you
want to come back legally. Do we have any data
on that?
Speaker 4 (04:29):
So we know that about ten thousand people have used
the CBP Home app. That's the old CBP one app
that Biden was using the funnel hundreds of thousands of
people into this country. About ten thousand people have taken
Christynom up on her offer to be paid a stipend
when they get back home. But the vast majority of
these folks, John are doing what people have traditionally done
(04:53):
when there's enforcement. We saw it under Eisenhower, we saw
it under George w Bush. We're seeing it today. You know,
they're cashing out. They've made their money. You can go
back to San Pedro, Sola On, you know, the wages
that you'd barely get buy and you know Santa Barbara
on and you know, live pretty well. You can rebuild
your life. And they most of these people, we can
all agree on that came here, you know, simply for
(05:15):
economic reasons. They've made their money. It's expensive to live
in this country. It's a whole lot cheaper to go
back home.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
There's always been this claim that the illegal aliens come
here and do the jobs that Americans won't do. But
if you're you're telling me that people are leaving by
the hundreds of thousands, and salaries for blue collar workers
are going up to percent, presumably they're getting Americans to
(05:43):
do these jobs.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Absolutely. And you know, I started my legal career more
than three decades ago in construction law. And if you
go to most job sites today, you will see that
most of the people who are working there, you know,
don't speak English, which suggests that they're you know, didn't
go to the Los Angeles Unified School District, so you know,
(06:06):
the you know, those were traditionally jobs that were handed
down father to son. They were strong union jobs. It
was only when we had this massive wave of people
come into the United States, you know, in the early
two thousands, and then again more recently than Americans left
those jobs. There are no jobs that Americans won't do.
(06:27):
In fact, I think there are seven hundred and fifty
different job categories Department of Labor tracks, and only four
of them have a majority immigrant component. And even in
those industries, you know, housekeeping, agriculture, there's still a significant
number of Americans will do them. You Know, what I
tell people is if you told me I could sneak
(06:49):
into Saudi Arabia illegally and get paid two million dollars
a year to pay houses, I'd at least give it
a thought. And you know, that's the wage differential that
we're talking about. For most of these people, they'll do
the jobs cheaper. And let's face it, job most of
the employers that hire these folks are just skirting the
immigration laws. They're skirting the wage and our laws and
(07:10):
ocial laws, all those other laws.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Because I live on the West side of LA and
people have are employing a lot of illegal immigrants. You know,
for housekeeping, for childcare, for gardening, for construction, you name it,
and that none of them would admit, though, if you've
pushed them up against the wall, that they're paying these
people very cheaply, that they're exploiting these people.
Speaker 4 (07:36):
Yeah, and that really is the rub when you talk
about all of this. You know, you have immigrants advocate
immigrant advocates who are out there banging the drum in
Los Angeles literally talking about how much they care about
immigrant communities. But one, they're demanding that criminals be turned
back into those immigrant communities, to be released from custody
(07:58):
and not be given over eyes. And two they're standing
by while, you know, those immigrants who are exploited, and
they justify it by saying, well, you know, the work
for the wage, or you know, they need to get
by or they need to support themselves. And of course
that is self serving and fatuous. I mean, it's it's
probably the most ridiculous argument that I could hear.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
If you care about you.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Know, working conditions and wages and people being able to
earn it, you know, an honest living for an honest
day's work, you want to restrict immigration the way that
the law actually says it should be restricted. Nobody wants
to see immigration cut off. But simply follow the laws
and you'll be surprised at how quickly, uh, you know,
(08:40):
communities improved, the streets are safer. You know again, we're
going to have an immigrant community in this country. We
always have and we always will. But just follow the
follow the rules, and you know you'll see that everybody's
boat rises.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
All right, Arthur, always good talking with you, Center for
Immigration Studies, Thank.
Speaker 4 (08:59):
You, Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
Done.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
All right, Art, It is always interesting to talk to
you because he spends he spends his days immersed in
all these kinds of numbers.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
You know.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
You know it's funny is.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Look at the farm workers because I always hear these
progressive types, the west Side type is going.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh but it's so cruel.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
You know, they just come here to work, and I'm thinking,
do you know how little they're paid? Do you know
what their living conditions are like on these farms? It
is like almost sub human living conditions. It's exceptionally cheap.
Pay well you know how much you know it costs
(09:42):
you more for your strawberries, wouldn't it. And I'm thinking
that's what you're in for it. That's that's what turns
you on is cheap strawberries. You don't care about these
people because the first thing they'll say is, well, you
know the price of strawberries that go up? Yeah, bingo,
that's what you care about. Why don't you pay a
premium for the strawberries and at least maybe these workers
(10:04):
would make real money. This is just what I don't understand.
It's like you get cheap food. They are being paid
dirt and you're telling me that, a that's a good deal. Now,
what's a bad deal for them? It's nice that they're
(10:24):
making more money compared to being at home.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
But they're being exploited and abused.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
You never you never see you never see people, especially
on my side of town, who want the immigrants to
make more money in the fields. They always talk about
how well you don't have the price of strawberries to
go up. They are phonies, they're hypocrites, their virtue signalers.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
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Speaker 3 (10:59):
We're live everywhere in the iHeartRadio app and the Moist
line is eight seven seven Moist eighty six for Friday
eight seven seven, Moist eighty six and if you heard Deborah,
there is no decision, no immediate ruling on whether Trump
or Gavin Newsom controls the state's national Guard.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
So I guess I don't know. Are they done for the.
Speaker 6 (11:22):
Day or That's what I'm trying to figure out. Did
they decide to go home or they're.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Gonna or is this just a status report right as
of them sending out this news bulletin.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
There it's in San Francisco.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So yeah, the hearing start at one o'clock and Barrel
Ooks or maybe C News came on with us at
about five after one and he said things were wrapping up.
I mean, they do issue lengthy statements frequently.
Speaker 1 (11:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's like seventy two page decisions, so that takes a
while to write and organize.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I vote they put you in charge. Oh I would
immediately invade Oregon.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
Okay, So what I'm being told is they have adjourned
for the day to revisit.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
This later this week.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
To revisit it later this week. Now Royal's opinion. Because
we couldn't hear this hearing live, it was online. It
was being streamed, and Royal watched it and he thought
the two Trump appointees were very skeptical of the Newsom
team's arguments, and that even the Democratic appointed judge, because
(12:33):
it's a three judge panel, was also questioning a lot
of the rationale behind the Newsom team's legal position. So
he thought he was pretty confident that it was going
to go Trump's way, but you never know. But they didn't.
None of the judges seemed to indicate any real hostility
(12:56):
to the Trump side, especially considering the way Stephen Bryer
treated the Trump lawyers last week.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
And you know, there's.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Now that we're nearing the end of this particular riot
cycle because the mayor, you said, the mayor.
Speaker 7 (13:11):
Has the cours done.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
Okay, so let's say it appears that the riot cycle
is over. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot of
police activity for a while downtown. In the end, what
did the National Guard do? They simply guarded the Primarily
they just guarded the federal buildings, the one downtown and
(13:34):
the one in Westwood, and they guarded the employees who
work in those buildings. The Marines didn't do anything to
get involved in the ride at all, and the National
Guard involvement was very limited. I read once that they
accompanied some ice officers on some raids, but ice officers
(13:59):
are federal employees, so to me, that falls under the
uh under protecting federal employees that mandate. But I don't
I wasn't aware. I mean, if it happened, you know,
we'd hear about it, right. I wasn't aware that they,
either the Marines or the National Guard had anything to
(14:20):
do with suppressing actual rioters. All the craziness you saw
in the streets was from either LAPD or the La
County Sheriff's Department or maybe a few other law enforcement
agencies that were helping out. But I didn't see the
National Guard do anything with the riders, and didn't see
(14:40):
the Marines certainly, So the whole thing became moot. But
this is a good template because you know, as they
continued the deportation proceedings around the country, there are so
many violent left wing organizations that have now been mobilized.
We are going to see more of this over the
summer because Trump clearly is not giving up. And you
(15:03):
know these guys, these these Antifa style groups, they're into
anarchy and they're very well funded.
Speaker 6 (15:08):
Hey, John CNN is saying that Homeland Security Secretary Christine
Nome has been taken to a hospital. I have no
idea what's going on with her, but it's breaking news sources.
That's CNN is citing sources that Christie no Home has
been taken to a hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Nothing else though, huh No.
Speaker 7 (15:28):
By ambulance.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
By ambulance, So we will I mean, she's so young.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
It doesn't seem like there would be many medical conditions
that you know, would affect her that would cause an
emergency run to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
That's weird. Yeah, I mean I had my speculation. I'm
going to keep it in my head.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (15:50):
Yeah, there's no reason to speculate because it could be
a number of things.
Speaker 2 (15:54):
No, Alex Media didn't get near her.
Speaker 6 (15:56):
I knew you were going to say something likele he.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Owed her one, didn't he? All Right? More coming up,
Deborah Mark is, Oh, who do we owe you? Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Well, speaking of this, Don Mahallick's coming on. He's ABC
News law enforcement contributor, retired Secret Service agent and the
weekend's Ruckus was the terrible shooting death of the former
Democratic House speaker in Minnesota, Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark.
They were shot to death and shot and wounded was
(16:31):
a Minnesota state Senator, John Hoffman and his wife Yvett.
The killer is Vance Bolter. He's up on federal and
state charges. And we're going to get some analysis from
Don Mahallock about the whole situation because a lot of
lawmakers all over the country they're trying to get their
(16:53):
private information off the internet.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
You're listening to John Cobel's on Demand from six.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
We are on from one until four o'clock. As you
miss anything after four o'clock, it's John Cobelt's show on
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but later in the hour, we're going to have a
question for men only. Question for men only, would you
rather be shot with a rubber bullet in the eye
or in the testicle?
Speaker 7 (17:22):
I so discriminated against you.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Do you have a testicle?
Speaker 1 (17:27):
No?
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Then you are not eligible.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
Okay, the affair in the next fifteen minutes you acquire Okay,
I'll let you know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Don Mahawick's coming on now.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
ABC News Law enforcement contributor, retired Secret Service agent. There
are a lot of public officials that are scrambling around
trying to get their private information off the Internet, which,
as you know, is very difficult. And this is after
the former Democratic House Speaker in Minnesota, Melissa Hartman, was
(17:58):
murdered her husband murdered as well in their house at
three thirty in the morning. Also shot was a state Senator,
John Hoffman and his wife. They were shot multiple times, survived.
Vance Bolter is in federal custody facing a slew of
federal and state charges. Let's get Don mahalic on. Don,
thank you for coming on.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
Thanks having me John.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Yeah, you know, there are thousands of legislators in this country.
It's virtually impossible to protect everybody. This first step of
trying to get your private information off the internet? Is
that even possible because if you look online, it looks
like there are dozens, hundreds, thousands, maybe of these internet
(18:45):
sites that carry all kinds of information because most of
it's in public databases.
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Yeah, so let's go back in time. Back in time
when they were still phone books. You know, you had
the option to have an unpublished number, which would take
your name, your address, and your phone number out of
the phone book, so if somebody looked you up, they
couldn't find you. That has completely disappeared because of the Internet.
All of this, all of our protected information is publicly
(19:11):
available if you want. There are search engines that you
can pay for to get an entire report about you,
your family, your relationships, everything. So we went from one
extreme to the other. And I think Congress has missed
the ball with this. They should have acted as soon
as the Internet started and put some rules into place
(19:32):
that prevented this proliferation of private information. Could they do
it now? Yes, Congress could pass the law and order
all of these cyber companies to scrub and not sell
this kind of information. It would take time, they could
do it, and the bottom line is they would lose money,
which is what our information is. Our information is worth
money to them, it's valuable. So that's the reason there
(19:56):
has been this push. I cannot do that tyqually. What
happens is when states or when Congress has passed these laws,
it gives you the option to have it scrubbed. It's
not a mandate. Congress has changed the option to a
mandate and let the cyber companies start start doing what
they need to do to protect everybody.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
So is it that these the cyber companies are well
funded and they provide a lot of campaign contributions and
lobbyist money, and so Congress never gets around to mandating
that they scrub all the private information.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
I would say the cyber industry right now is worth
trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars and probably spends
several hundred million, if not billions, on lobbying state and
the local governments and the federal government about, you know,
laws related to the Internet and whatnot. For years, they
pushed back against Congress about self regulation. They wanted to
(20:53):
self regulate, and so Congress took trepidacious steps about putting
laws in place about the but a lot of the
laws that are in place are outdated, old, because the
Internet has evolved and the laws have it. I think
it's time for Congress, from a safety perspective to pick
up the gauntlet or throw down the gauntlet and say enough,
(21:14):
we need we need to put a wall up here,
and the wall needs to be clear.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I'm astonished how far back the information goes. I mean,
when I've looked online, it has people's homes and phone
numbers going back thirty years or more, probably the start
of the Internet. And there's also a lot of wrong
information as well.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
Right, so you've got information, you know, your entire history
is there, and then there's wrong information. So you've got
this quagmire personally identifiable information that's available, some right, some wrong,
all dangerous. So why do we, as the American people
stand to have our information that available? I mean, I've
(21:57):
tried over the years to go on and scrub this
and scrub that, but as we all know, some other
search engine pops up. It would be a full time
job to do that. It is almost impossible for any American,
let alone elected official or otherwise, to actually get their
information scrubbed from every corner of the Internet, because there
(22:17):
is not a law that mandates it, and the cyber
companies don't make it easy if you try to go
on and get something scrubbed, you know, trying to find
where you have to click, and where you have to
send an email, and who you have to email.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It's complicated for a lot of these Well, I know
Google has a service. You have a Google account, and
you can make a request that they will approach all
the Well, first of all, they'll do a scan, right,
They'll do a Google scan and a list all the
sites that have your personal information, and then if you
(22:48):
ask Google, they in turn will request from these sites
to delete the information. But some of the sites say no,
we won't do that, and then I guess you're stuck.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
Right, So we're beyond the point of asking. It should
be telling at this point in time, and that telling
should comes from the federal government. Look, the cyber companies
have enough other ways to make money. They don't need
to sell your my home address and phone number and
data birth you know, to do that. They can recoup
that in other ways. But what it does for me
(23:23):
and you, and the elected officials and the police officers
who have been swatted at docks and everything else, is
it gives them a level of protection that they don't
have now that used to be in play before this
thing got out of control.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
What else could lawmakers do to protect themselves. I mean,
most of them live in ordinary homes and ordinary neighborhoods.
They don't have security. And you certainly wouldn't expect a
guy to put on a rubber mask and show up
at three point thirty in the morning dressed as a
cop and then they shoot you to death. I mean
that kind of thing. I guess there's no way to
(23:57):
protect yourself other than never answered, well, even if it
looks like the police.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Yeah, but there are some basic personal safety and protective
things I think people forget about from time to time.
And if you're a lawmaker, you know, it should be
part and parcel. And if you become a lawmaker, local, state, federal,
investing in a ring doorbell camera, security surveillance system, alarm
systems that should just become part of your home at
(24:23):
this stage of the game. Having the police know where
your home addresses and having them do checks on your
house and having the police department's number in your phone
should be part of your part of your you know,
part of just living if you're one of these officials.
The other thing is, you know, I used to have
a friend of mine who the community policing would tell homeowners,
(24:44):
don't open the door unless you can kiss and hug somebody.
And people say, in this situation, the guy was dressed
like a cop, looked like a cop. But I read it.
But I read a news story that said when the
couple opened the door, they said, you're no cop. So
had they taken the time to talk through the door,
or to talk to a ring doorbell camera, or and
then call mine when won and verify if it was
(25:06):
a police officer at their house, because let's face it,
cops don't show up at people's house at two or
three o'clock in the morning randomly. If they're set there,
they're dispatch there. You know that, in and of itself,
may have prevented what happened. Not trying a Monday morning
quarterback what happened. But those are the type of safety
steps if you're an elected official you should be taking
to keep yourself safer.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
All right, Don mhallick, thank you for coming on with
us again.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
Thanks for having me John all right, he's.
Speaker 3 (25:31):
The ABC News LA Enforcement contributor hired secret service agents.
All Right, when we return first time for this game,
would you rather take a rubber boat in the I
or in the testagon? I get to play Eric. It's
to play the debor's opting out.
Speaker 6 (25:48):
I'm opting out. I have no choice. Well, you said
I'm not.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
I said you had fifteen minutes to acquire a testical.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
I guess nothing else.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I still don't have one.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
Okay, so you'll just watch. Yeah, Well, you're really afraid
of anything.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
I say, I'm not afraid at all.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
You're waring.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM sixty.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Moistline is eighty seven seven moist eaighty six eight seven
seven moist eaighty six. That's Friday. Or use the talkback
feature on the iHeart app. All right, today's game is
would you rather get a rubber bullet in the eye
or in the testicle? And uh to give you further details,
We're going to play you a story by uh Hold
(26:39):
on ABC seven reporter. Oh, it's Cigar Cia again.
Speaker 8 (26:44):
They just started opening fire on us, just spraying and
obsived amount of rubber bullets just everywhere.
Speaker 9 (26:52):
And Marshall Ruddruff is recovering at the hospital. He was
one of the tens of thousands of protesters for the
No Kings Day demonstration Saturday in downtown Los Angeles. He
says it was peaceful until it got ugly, and that's
when he says he was in by rubber bullets fired
by local law enforcement.
Speaker 8 (27:11):
The bullet fractured my cheek and it tore part of
my eye open and I had to go into surgery
for about four hours or five hours to get it
repaired that night. And it's questionable how much vision I'm
going to be able to get back or you know
how much I'm going to be able to see out
of my right eye right now, it's just a giant
(27:32):
question mark.
Speaker 9 (27:33):
The LPD and Sheriff's Department say their officers were assaulted
with water bottles and bricks. They declared an unlawful assembly
and went in to break up the protests. Mostly according
to the LPED, there were a number of peace officers
injured as well. Marshall's friends, Jazz Egger and Gavin Prophet,
have been keeping him company during his hospital stay. They
(27:55):
set up a GoFundMe account to help pay for his
medical bills. Gavin says he was at the protest close
to where Marshall was when things, as he put it,
from from peaceful to police moving in.
Speaker 10 (28:06):
I think everyone that's out there is peacefully protesting. I
know that there is bad apples in any situations, but
I don't think that the force that was used to
repel the peaceful protesting was justified at all.
Speaker 11 (28:19):
America is being divided right now, and I believe we
have to stand to get it. No matter what side
you're on. We have to support one another, no matter
regardless of ethnicity. Race or political affiliation. Because love is
the only way.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Somebody that love is the only way.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
So what you said, love is the only way?
Speaker 11 (28:41):
Love is the answer because love is the only way.
Speaker 7 (28:45):
Oh no, really, Yeah you didn't know that.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
No, I mean, I mean somebody. I'm a cop and
somebody's throwing a brick at my head.
Speaker 7 (28:52):
You say love is the only way.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
I'm just supposed to love him back. Yeah, same thing
about with a bottle bottle of brick. I'm just supposed
to say, please come here. I know you threw a
brick at my head.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
I love you anyway.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
I love how The people have picked up on this
phrase peaceful protest, and they constantly repeat it like it's
some kind of prayer. If the police are shooting rubber
bullets because somebody was throwing bricks and bottles at them,
(29:28):
it was not a peaceful protest. Maybe you wanted it
to be a peaceful protest, but all these things end
up being a riot.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
They always do. It doesn't matter what it was like
at ten in the morning.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
By the late afternoon, people get frustrated because they didn't
just thrown the king. This is what I was talking
about yesterday. They woke up yesterday morning, Trump was the king.
They went to bed last night, Trump was the king.
They wake up this morning, Trump is the king. You
could throw rocks and bottles. He's still the king. And
now you're under arrest. And this guy's part of his.
Speaker 11 (30:01):
Eye because love is the only way, all right.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Bringing us to the question.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Now, yesterday we brought you the guy whose testicle exploded.
He got the rubber bullet in the grind and badly
bruised one testicle. I don't know if it's the right
or the left, and then the other one exploded and
they tried to stitch the pieces back together, and he
(30:26):
hasn't been able to stand up for ever since. So
the question is, Eric, I'll go to you rubber bullet.
You want it in the eye or in the testicle? Oh,
this is pretty easy for me. Definitely the eye.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
Yeah, I would say too. Yeah, I would take it
in the eye too. Well, I have another eye, and also.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
You have another testicle.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Well, yeah, bruised.
Speaker 3 (30:50):
Not sure if it works right, Yeah, So I'd much
rather lose my eyesight and play that sympathy card to
try and be able to use my testicle. In fact,
you'll end up you using your testicles a lot more.
If that's what I'm saying, end up losing your eye.
I mean, that is a great line to drop. Uh No,
I agree with him. It's a two nothing in favor
of keeping the testicle. The hell with the eye. I
(31:14):
don't have to see anything anymore anyway. I've seen enough.
And the way people look these days, most of them
look disgusting.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
So they do.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Everybody's over fed.
Speaker 6 (31:28):
It's just you are, ah, you are?
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yes, yes, I mean, well, there has to be a limit.
I'm not talking about it, you know, having an extra
ten or twenty pounds. I'm talking about being unsightly and
wearing either clothing that's too tight or too revealing. And
there's a lot of that, and it's men and women.
It's one thing if you've you've got a big, you know,
(31:54):
blob of fat hanging over your belt, but but cover
it up.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
You'll agree with me. I know you do.
Speaker 7 (32:02):
I'm not saying a word.
Speaker 3 (32:06):
When you see somebody who's got a huge load of
blubber hang it over. Yeah, you don't think silently to
yourself like geez, put on a shirt.
Speaker 2 (32:16):
I'm taking the lady. Cover that up. Anyway.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
This is less and less enjoyable things to look at
these days. Sorry, anyway, we're in agreement on that. See,
I think I figure most guys would say that, most
guys would choose a shot in the eye over a
shot in the testicle. I don't think a shot in
the testicle like that. I don't think that pain.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Ever goes away.
Speaker 7 (32:38):
I don't think the eye pain would ever go away.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
You don't have a testicle that is remarkably resilient pain
that is.
Speaker 7 (32:47):
I have nothing to say to that.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
It just a wow that we might have experiences you haven't.
Speaker 7 (32:55):
I do allow for that. Love is all we need.
Speaker 3 (32:57):
Though, when when we come back, I want to play
you well since since Padilla got thrown around by Christie
Noom's workforce. Oh, by the way, do you get the
bulletin on Christine Nomes?
Speaker 7 (33:12):
What do you mean the bulletin?
Speaker 2 (33:13):
Well, update on why she was rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 7 (33:16):
Why, why was she a why?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Probable allergic reaction?
Speaker 3 (33:22):
So I thought Padilla taking a shot at her, but
that that was that was a bad rumor, Uh, she's
allergic to something. When we come back, there is a
guy running for mayor in New York City named Brad
Lander and this guy decided to take on UH immigration
officers and try to cover for an illegal immigrant at
(33:45):
a courthouse. And he and all these people are so
pompous and self righteous. So this is the new stunt
is for politicians to UH somehow interfere with ice, and
Badilla went on the floor of the Senate and was
crying about it.
Speaker 2 (34:04):
Let's see what this guy did.
Speaker 3 (34:06):
When we come back, Brad Lander cannedy for mayor in
New York Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four
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