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September 22, 2025 31 mins

The John Kobylt Show Hour 2 (09/22) - Alex Stone comes on the show to talk about the shooting at ABC10 in Sacramento. Jimmy Kimmel's suspension from ABC will be lifted as he returns to the air tomorrow. Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro called out Kamala Harris for covering up for Pres. Biden. Gov. Newsom was caught lying again.  

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
And he's.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
He came on to explain, while Gavin Newsom is simply
full of it. There is no such thing as the
state telling the federal government had address its law enforcement officers.
So this mask law that they passed with a lot
of fanfare over the weekend is complete nonsense.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:44):
He's the US Attorney and that's in the first hour
of the podcast that you can get after four o'clock.
Right now, we are going to go to Alex Stone
because Channel ten and Sacramento it's an ABC affiliate. Somebody
started firing shot into the lobby of the building. And
why would this be and who was this crazy person?

(01:06):
Alex Stone? ABC News.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
Well, we do know.

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Who he is, and at least two of the accused
is and we got a lot of new details today,
So yeah, we're learning a lot more, a lot more
about this.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
So it was one thirty in the afternoon on Friday.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
Shooter who had a dark satchel around his torso, drives up,
gets out, fires into one of the front windows at
ABC ten, KXTV and Sacramento. Bullets went into the lobby
and they were pretty tight together. The bullet holes through
the lobby window into the lobby. Luckily, nobody was hit

(01:41):
in the lobby area. There were people in there, but
nobody was hit. And when those three shots came in
and then the shooter jumped back in his small car,
an isisan kick and immediately went racing away. And the
police considered it to be a drive by shooting and
came racing in to figure out what it was and
what it wasn't and if it was political with everything

(02:02):
going on, And as they came in, they put out
this broadcast on police radio all divisions and outside agencies
broadcast for office and safety on an armed vehicle fired
three times into a building at Broadway and History twenty
five ago.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
And then on Friday night they made an arrest. Is
a sixty four.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Year old guy Anna Baal Hernandez Santana, and they had
this message for whoever the shooter was of They're going
to find you.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
This unacceptable behavior is not going to be tolerated.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Sacramento and they did it within hours, based off of
license plates and running that license plate, and it came
back to Hernandez Santana. He's being charged with state crimes,
but the Feds charged him today. They were able to
hold them after he bailed out on the state charges.
And the federal crimes are interesting. Interference of a licensed
communications station essentially because he fired into a radio or

(02:53):
a TV station and disrupted the quote unquote signal, even
though you could argue they're talking about the actual signal
and ABC ten did not go off the air that
they're going that way. But also a possession of a firearm,
in discharge of a firearm, and a school zone. But John,
we learned from these core documents that Hernandez Santana in
his car they found a handwritten letter reading it said

(03:16):
quote for hiding Epstein and ignoring red flags, do not support.
Patel Bongino and A. G. Pambondi their next end quote
their next Their next is what the letter allegedly said.
This had nothing to do with the Jimmy Kimmel situation.
At this point, it doesn't look like it did. And
I mean, maybe we're going to find out that that
inflamed it or but it doesn't look like it. They

(03:36):
tracked him down. There was surveillance video of his license plate.
It came back to his car and they went to
his home. They found a nine millimeter handgun inside of
a satchel just like the one the shooter had an
empty magazine. They say his hands were positive for gunshot residue,
and that he had a whiteboard planner on his kitchen
fridge that read do the next scary thing that he

(03:59):
had written on the allegedly on the date of last Friday.
We don't know what the previous scary thing was, but
up here as the next scary thing was firing into
ABC ten. But but we know they're also looking at
mental health. That has been part of this from the beginning.
Our sources saying that they think that that may be
at play, but they believe they've got the shooter now.
I saw one new story said that a LinkedIn account

(04:19):
matching his name said he used to be the legislative
director for the California Federation of Teachers, a lobbyist. Yeah,
it looks like he may have an attorney background. His
attorney is saying that that he has a long history
of that they believe the feds are now going to
focus in on long history of left leaning posts and

(04:41):
an outrage about things.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
And did they expect that?

Speaker 2 (04:44):
On his attorney's side is saying they expect the Feds
to make a big deal.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Out of it. All right, very good, Alex, thanks for
coming on.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
You got it, thanks John. Not only did he used
to be a legislative director for the California Federation of Teachers,
one of the teachers' unions. He he used to have
a job tracking state legislation and assisting with the Affordable
Care Act implementation. He got fired. He worked as a

(05:14):
former health policy analyst for the California Rural Indian Health Board,
which was a nonprofit and he got fired in twenty
eighteen a verbal confrontation with his supervisors. They called the police.
Suit was withdrawn in twenty twenty. He also claimed he

(05:36):
was terminated because they wouldn't give him time off to
care for his disabled son. So he's a teacher's lobbyist,
rural Indian Health Board health analyst. So he's been on
the fringes of government. An ex account says there's a

(05:57):
steady stream of anti Trump commentary. The authoritarian oligarchy is
now complete, CBS caving, big law firms in DC, the
subservience FBI and AG University president stepping down, fanboys on
the Supreme Court. Public radio Ice goons we're gonna have

(06:19):
to fight like hell. Rules don't apply if elections were stolen.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Fight.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
On Thursday, he wrote, where's a good heart attack when
we need it the most? Join in my thoughts and
prayers for the physical demise of our fearful leader.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
I'm just guessing Trump.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
He studied regional and city planning at UC Berkeley, and
he studied law at UC Law San Francisco. See, there
were fifteen protesters outside the station over over Jimmy Kimmel,
So that's why the inference was wayed, and he must
have been one of the protesters. Got out of hand

(07:00):
because the affiliate is owned by Tegna. Techne is the
company that Next Star wants to acquire, and because of
that deal, Next Star took Jimmy Kimble off its all
its affiliates because they have the six billion dollar deal
before the FCC. I mean they haven't admitted to that,

(07:21):
but that's the reason. You know, everybody's hiding behind you know,
patriotic and family values blather, but the truth is big
financial deal. Next Star is buying techna. This is one
of the channels. But looks like this guy if he
was upset about Jimmy Kimmel being suspended, that wasn't one

(07:41):
of the reasons he was firing into the lobby. He
had a whole list of other reasons. Now, when we
come back, you probably heard that Kimmel's coming back, but
there was there was a lot of fascinating, many fascinating
stories about this, and there's there's a lot of work
that Disney has to do if they really want to

(08:03):
get the show on the air long term. There's there's
a lot, there's a lot of complicated threads to this,
and there's a lot of money at stake. And we'll
talk before I get off track. By the way, I
found the missing stories.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Where was it?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Well, it was it was on my iPad. It was
I was reading it from an iPad screen.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Oh, so it was never printed out.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
It was never printed out. No, it wasn't anybody else's fault.
It was my stupid fault. I didn't remember where I
was reading it. Ah, but what you read was exactly right. Okay,
So thank you for album.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
You're welcome. Plane was going enough to get old, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Well, I don't know. You tell me it sucks.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
Aging sucks. I'm going to tell you that right now.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
All right, all right, when I get there.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
You're older than I am.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
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Speaker 1 (09:11):
That's a good option. And we'll do.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
It at three twenty and three point fifty on Friday.
So you may have heard that Jimmy Kimmel is coming
back on the air. When is When is he returning?

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 1 (09:22):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Okay, tomorrow night.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
All right, So the suspension is over. There's no work word.
What the terms of the no we're waiting.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
We are waiting to get that information. So far, I've
seen nothing, but I'm wondering if he's even going.

Speaker 3 (09:36):
Is Kimmel going.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
To address the suspension. Has he been told I mean again,
this is part of what you're saying. Do we know
about the terms? I'm wondering, has he been told, don't
say anything. You don't have to apologize, but don't mention it.
I can't imagine he isn't gonna mention.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
Then he kind of has to.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
It's just way too awkward exactly, you know, or at
least acknowledge that it exists, right and move on, maybe
say you know it's it's in everyone's best interest right now.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
If I don't.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Comment at all this well, there's a lot of behind
the scenes negotiations going on involving quite a few parties.
The one of the main factors in this are all
the regulatory deals mergers that various companies that carry Jimmy
Kimmel's show are currently involved in. I talked last hour

(10:29):
about Nextstar. Next Star is a chain of television stations
primarily in the medium markets about entirely. They have some
bigger markets and they want to buy another television chain
called TEGNA t e g NA for six billion dollars.

(10:52):
Now you're basically merging to television companies. That raises antitrust issues.
You have to go for the FCC and you have
to say, hey, this is what we want to do,
and the FCC will say, is this going to you know,
too much consolidation going on in the industry, This is

(11:13):
you know, reducing the number of voices out there in America,
stuff like that. You've heard this stuff a thousand times,
a lot of it's just a formality, but they got
to go through it. Well, the president is in charge
of the FCC like everything else. He can get rid
of everybody on that commission or make life at the
very least make life really difficult.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
So they're going to do what Trump wants.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
So Trump, in effect, you know, has a veto power
on these mergers, and not just in broadcast industry, but
a lot of industries. If he wants something to go through,
it'll go through. If he doesn't want it to, it won't,
or there might be conditions attached.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
And all presidents have this. This is the way of
the world. You know.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
I love all the activists and all the purists out
there and the free speech people who think that we
live in this pure world. There's no such thing. Everything's compromised,
everything's in negotiation. You're always you always have to report
to somebody else. And I already explained that length last week.
How none of us in the radio and TV industry

(12:17):
think we have a First Amendment right to say whatever
we want.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
What if you were told John that you had to
say how much you love Governor Newsom and you want
to be with a furry.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
And that your job depended on that, what would you do.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
The furry? Yes Newsom?

Speaker 2 (12:37):
No, Okay, I got expressed my love for a furry
way before I'm going to express my love for Newsom. Yeah,
I mean I briefly told the story last week that
and I don't want to get into the specifics. But
a while back, there was a legal issue k if
I had to deal with and they needed the Governor

(12:59):
at the time his approval, and it had to do
with technical issues and they needed the approval. And one
of the guys upstairs asked us, said, hey, can you
give the governor a break for just a couple of
weeks and then you can go back to regular programming
because we got to get him to sign this, okay,

(13:20):
because you know, if we don't have a way to
transmit the show, then the show's not worth very much.
And with Jimmy Kimble, if the companies don't have a
way to make money with his show, well then eventually
there's going to be no show. So Next Star has
got a six billion dollar deal. It has to get
through with Trump's FCC, and they don't want kim I'll

(13:43):
getting in the way of that. Then Disney itself has
a huge deal going on. Disney has purchased about ten
of esp I read this right, and it's two to

(14:03):
three billion dollars and they are now going to run
the NFL network channel and the Red Zone channel and
the Fantasy Football assets. So Disney is going to take
control of a big chunk of the the NFL's cable

(14:24):
holdings and that's going to cost him billions of dollars. Well,
that has to be approved by the FCC. So you know,
by the way, the protests, I flat out and I
believe one protester in front of Jimmy Kimmel's studio is
for real. Those have to be hired by some democratic outfit.
There's no possible way. There's a personal live that's going

(14:47):
to go stand on Hollywood Boulevard and risk getting stabbed
to death to protest the suspension of a TV show.
And if there really are tons of people upset with
Jimmy Kimmel being taken off the for the last week,
you better start watching the show because you don't want to.
He can't have more protesters than he has actual viewers,

(15:10):
so that that's the way to keep him on the
ears to watch the thing. And he lost three quarters
to the audience. And I saw one statistic which explained why.
As hard as it is for some people to accept,
there is a an organization called NewsBusters that actually counted

(15:31):
the jokes that Jimmy Kimmel has told about Trump, and
he made one one hundred and twenty eight jokes at
Trump in twenty twenty five. By comparison Joe Biden, he

(15:53):
only made twenty six jokes about Biden, so it was
one one and twenty eight to twenty six.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Side.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
You obviously pissed off a lot of the audience and
they got tired of it. It's been going on for years.
I want to know, and this is a question nobody
seems to be interested in finding out the answer, at
least in the media. Why would CBS and ABC lose
tens of millions of dollars on two late night shows
whose ratings had dropped dramatically and they kept the shows

(16:29):
on the air.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
Why.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
I've never seen it in my whole life, since I
was a little kid, shows kept on the air when
they were losing millions of dollars. And Stephen Colbert's case,
it was like tens of millions of dollars. Since when
when did that start? Unless they were getting some kind

(16:52):
of backdoor payback, nothing would surprise me. But there must
be a motivation to keep on shows that are so
over vertly political when you've lost much of the audience
and you've lost much of the revenue, and the thing
keeps chugging along.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
There. I've never seen that before.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I mean, there are just thousands and thousands of television
shows in the graveyard, and nearly all of them have
one thing in common. They didn't have enough of an
audience and they weren't making money. And somehow these two
shows had a dwindling audience, a collapsing audience, and losing
tens of millions of dollars each and they stayed on

(17:30):
the air.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
There's a story there. I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
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Speaker 2 (17:40):
I think Kamala Harris is going to start giving public
interviews any day now on her new book One hundred
and seven Days, And we talked about this on Friday.
She's trashing some of the other possible presidential candidates on
her side. She said, Joshapiro, the Pennsylvania Governor, came in

(18:03):
for his interview to be her VP, and he was
already more interested in whether he could get paintings from
the Smithsonian to decorate the vice presidential mansion. He was
already trying to negotiate that before the interview even started.
And then she said, Pete boodhage Edge, that would have
been a good choice, except you know, he's gay, and

(18:25):
I'm black, and I'm married to a Jewish man. And
ask him in America to then throw a gay guy
married to another guy into the mix, he thought was
too much.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
And so two ways you could look at this.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Either she's just sick of politics and is burning all
the bridges right and try to make some money on
the book, or she's trying to tear down all her
possible competitors in two thousand and eight. So I'm sure
she'll be perfectly clear and clarify all this when she
starts doing the interview.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
What did I say two thousand and eight.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
To see the aging process?

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I'm telling you, Okay, it's two for you today. All right. Well,
I'm always upfront that I need a minder. I think
we both see I'm relying on you.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
And I'm relying on you.

Speaker 7 (19:11):
Eric.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Why do you think I'm here if you go down
and I'm already down?

Speaker 1 (19:17):
All right, So I'm gonna play We're gonna play clip here.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Because Josh Shapiro was pissed off at Kamala Harris and
he went on a new political podcast.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Is that what this is? Yeah? Podcast, YouTube show.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
I think it's on satellite as well because I had
a commercial for it.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, I'm serious. Steven A.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
Smith who's primarily known as a sports commentator but now
he's doing politics and the show is called Straight Shooter,
and he had Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro on and they
discussed what Kamala Harris has been saying and writing.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
I think one of the things that has to happen
is well, for the Democratic Party to move forward in
a very very positive way, is that you know, again,
you have to be resolute, and we understand that. But
in the same breath, when folks come out and they're revealing, well,
they may have been a bit deceptive, or they may
have not been as forthcoming as they should have been,
or what have you, people are looking at things like

(20:13):
that and they're saying in themselves.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
Excuse me, that was a concern.

Speaker 8 (20:15):
I bring this up because I'm thinking about former Vice president,
former Democratic of presidential nomine Kamala Harris. She's coming out
with her book One hundred and seven Days, which is
scheduled to be at least sometime next week. In it,
she recounts her run, which was the shortest presidential campaign
in minern Us history. By the way, there's a text
serpent there where she says, quote, it's Joe and Jill's decision.
We all said that like a mantra, as if we'd

(20:36):
all been hypnotized. Was it great or was it recklessness?
In retrospect, I think it was recklessness. The stakes were
simply too high. This wasn't a choice that should have
been left to an individual's ego, in individual's ambition. It
should have been more. We hear something like that, the
question some folks would want me to ask you is
is she right?

Speaker 1 (20:55):
My question would be why didn't just say that before?
That's what I would be thinking. That's the question that
comes to my mind as a voter.

Speaker 8 (21:04):
How should we feel when we hear something that we
suspected but wasn't acknowledged by politicians who were looking for
our support, and then we find out later we were
right and they should have spoken up.

Speaker 1 (21:18):
What do you say to that?

Speaker 9 (21:19):
I mean, look, I haven't read the former vice president's book,
and she's going to have to She's going to have
to answer to how she was in the room and
yet never said anything publicly.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
I can tell you.

Speaker 9 (21:31):
That I wasn't in the room, but when I was
confronted with engagement with the former president in looking at
it simply from the perspective of how's he doing in Pennsylvania?
Could he win Pennsylvania? Because I think, Stephen, you understand
that if you can't win pennsylvania's pretty darn hard to
win the national election. And I was very vocal with

(21:53):
him privately and extremely vocal with his staff about my
concerns about his fitness to be able to run for
another term. I was direct with them. I told them
my concerns. I told them my worries. I told them
what I was seeing in the polls. I think it
seemed to me that maybe his staff wasn't counseling him

(22:13):
with all the information that we knew on the ground
here in Pennsylvania that, you know, frankly, they should have
shared with the president. I think that's a conversation between
the former president.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
And his every second.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Why don't they all come out, hold hands and say, look,
we'd lied, like hell to you.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
That's what you did. Y'all lied. If you didn't know
it directly, you heard about it. It was obvious. We
could tell it from.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Three thousand miles away, just playing audio clips, just watching
some of the video.

Speaker 1 (22:44):
He was shot. Why why don't they just all admit
it they afked up.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
There isn't a single person in the Biden administration or
connected to the Democratic Party from that time that I'm
ever gonna believe. There is not a single reporter or
anchor or anybody connected to that story. If I'm aware
that they didn't say anything, or they claim the opposite, or.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
I don't believe you for the rest of your life.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
I don't have to if you could, and include Kama Harris,
if you couldn't be honest and say, hey, he's failing,
looks like he's senile. It's bad. He shouldn't be running.
He shouldn't even be president right now. That's what somebody
should have said. And all this clap trap from Kamala

(23:38):
about so I had loyalty to the president.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
You suppose to have loyalty to all of us.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
I want you care about your loyalty to an old
failing man. Your loyalty is to the citizens of the
United States of America. That's your loyalty to the country,
for the health of the And I don't care how
they try to twist it. It's like, well, I didn't
naturally witness this, and you know I'm not a.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Doctor, and I heard speculation. Say shut up, you all
knew what was going on. Stop it. Stop it.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
First person who just stands up and admits, you know what,
I was part of the big cover up.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
I was part of the big lie.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Maybe I'll give it, Maybe I'll listen to you for
five minutes, but the rest of them.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Come on, what a load of horse crap.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Every normal person I know, every normal person I know
could see that he was seen on and everybody.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Talking, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
I remember I was on a TV show here in
town and was on Channel five. I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Name names because it just starts too much trouble.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
But they had me on to do kind of a
question answer a point counterpoint with some other Democratic act
and Biden came up and I said, look, it looks
like the paraphrasing Biden s nile. My friend and I
have a term we use called bidening out whenever you're

(25:04):
struggling to find a word or you lose track of
your thought, kind of like what you and I have
been going through. My friend and I met up this term.
I'm bidening out. I can't think of the name. And
the anchor looked at me and his eyes actually bugged
out because I had a monitor and I could see
he goes bidening out. I go, yeah, that's when you
lose John. And he's looking at me and he goes, oh,
I've never heard anybody say that. You know, he was

(25:27):
how dare you blah blah, blah, it's saying, oh Jesus, right, okay.
Then he say he switched over to the Democratic consultant
and asked him the same question.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
It's like, well do you think?

Speaker 2 (25:38):
And the guy kind of hemmed it hard and hedged around,
and you could tell that he agreed with me, but
he didn't want to say it or he'd lose his
membership card. Put this anchor a Channel five. He was
a ghast, absolutely a ghast that I would say such
a thing.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
And I'm thinking I wanted to say, what the F
I mean? Do you have eyes?

Speaker 5 (25:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (25:59):
But a news anchor can't say that. But not but
he sees it, but he can't. He's not going to
agree with you. He probably just should he. I don't
know if it's he she.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
They should not have agreed with you, right, and they didn't.
They shouldn't have said any Now I'm going to get
myself in trouble.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
I like to I like to let you go off
because eventually you'll hit a lamb. My.

Speaker 5 (26:22):
You're listening to John Cobbels on demand from KFI Am sixty.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
I am astonished how easily and consistently Gavin New Some
Wives lies about just the smallest issues, just the most
trivial things. He In Kamala Harris's book, she was looking
for an endorsement right after Joe Biden dropped out. She

(26:48):
immediately started calling people in the Democratic Party known big
names and said, hey, will you endorse me?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Will you do it publicly now?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
And she called Kevin Newsom right away and his response,
out hiking will call you back, And he never did,
which in itself is classic Newsome. And kna puts this
in the book that out Hiking, uh going to play

(27:20):
a cut number two.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
He was asked about this at the press conference.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
No, I haven't. I haven't read it, and so it's
hard to even opine about context and to even reflect
on anything. It's in the book that after press oh,
I mean this is this is such a trivial doesn't
even go into describing how inconsequential you love my comments
are about to be. I mean, you want to waste

(27:48):
your time with this, we'll do it. Was up there hiking,
there was an unknown number. Check the unknown number. Meanwhile,
I was on text change trying to get in touch
with the Biden administration because I was completely surprised that
the president dropped out and as you know, I was
a surrogate and I was out on the campaign trail,
and so I was trying to figure out what just happened.

(28:10):
And then when I checked the unknown number and that
was Kamala said, hey, hiking, we'll call you back. That
exact same moment was working with my team to put
out a statement to endorse her. I assume that's in
the book as well. That hours later the endorsement came out.
So beyond that pretty well established, including an event in

(28:33):
San Francisco we did at the Fairmount.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
For the reason I'm saying he's lying is because this
is what he said on another podcast that he had
last year, politicking with his co host Doug Hendrickson and
former NFL player Marshawn Lynch. He's got a different story
in this telling.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Gavin, how's your week going, Gavin, Everything's great, everything, this
is normal.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Typically couldn't be off what I said, couldn't be. What
do you mean? Couldn't be? I mean because in.

Speaker 9 (29:04):
My lifetime, I don't think I never seen the president
of the drop out like that.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
How old am I? I ain't seen no like that?

Speaker 2 (29:09):
And then because it make it a little bit more spicy,
because I'm sitting down with possibly that could really go
and do it.

Speaker 7 (29:16):
Though, by the way, I wasn't sitting down when I
got the word.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I was on my treadmill.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
I was working on the treadmill, and all of a sudden,
the phone starts lighting up saying, You'll obviously seen this.
And I'm like this third person said you've obviously seen this.
I'm like, what the hell they talking about? So I
put it down to two. I'm walking.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
I think it was.

Speaker 7 (29:35):
Four actually, and I'm walking and I'm like, whoa. And
that was the last thing I was expecting on a
quiet Sunday. And then I mean lights out on the
cell phone and all the emails and everything else.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
So July twenty twenty four, he claimed to these two
ballplayers he was on the treadmill when he found out
Biden's drop out. And then now twenty twenty five, he's
claiming he was hiking when he found out and Kamala
was calling him, except he didn't know it was Kamala's number.

(30:13):
He doesn't have Kamala's number, okay, so he just does
it so easily. One day, Oh yeah, I was on
the treadmill. Next day, it's like well, I was hiking.
I mean, he's absolutely shameless. I've actually never seen anything

(30:34):
like this to this extent in the public figure. And
he just does it every day, just breezes out of
his mouth. We come back, all right, I gotta talk
about Tom Holman. There was a Department of Justice investigation
to Tom Holman claiming that he took bribe money. It
was broken by MSNBC, followed up by The New York Times.

(30:58):
Apparently there's gonna be no che ourges. I'm gonna explain
all this coming up. Uh, you want to hear this story.
It is a little weird. Debora Mark is live in
the CAFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, you've been listening
to The John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear
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