John and Ken Show Hour 1 (05/17)

John and Ken start off the show talking about how gullible people get scammed. LA City attorney Mike Feuer drops out of the LA Mayoral race and endorses Karen Bass.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Please stand by. Oh sure, we'll wait for you. Bus driver,
don't leave. We got four hours, no rush. Yeah, that's right.
What did you not plugged? You know? I bought a
new set of headphones because I wrecked the last pair,
and now I wrecked this pair. And is that usually
because you step on the wire or your break Yeah?

(00:21):
It is actually Actually I do that a lot too.
It ends up under the cherry. It's all tangled. And
then the connection and Ray ran in with with another
pair and they they didn't click in rights. It's just oh,
the emergency headphones, and so we have the replacement emergency headphones.
All right, every emergency too. Here where'd you have? I

(00:42):
just got to text my bank that there's something wrong.
They're suspending my account. That I better log in right
now and take care of it. Oh yeah, give me,
give me, don't. I don't want to get fished here.
But you know it's a complete detail. All an attachment?
Should I press the attachment? Put in your social security number? Two? Yeah?
Give him my pet to my bank account. Give that guy,
not Jerry when he's working on my banking status is

(01:04):
on the whole Oh no, they I know it does it? Does? There?
Are people that can't help it. They have to click
the link. But what people go forward with, you know,
putting in their personal information is what I'd like to know.
What inspires themone, I guess just people get nervous that

(01:27):
this is real and what happens if I lose my
banking And I know somebody who falls for these I
can't say who. It's nobody you know anyway, but yeah,
I know they're like every time, often enough more than once.
That reminds me. I found an interesting story. I wasn't
gonna intend to start the show with it, but since
this scam came up. Apparently a phone scammer from Jamaica

(01:55):
who just calls up people and tries to shake them
down and often. I think there was a story last
week how many billions of dollars they're fleeced from senior
citizens by the fraudsters. Because my mother would answer the phone,
she didn't get scammed, but she didn't. She liked answering
the phone, didn't matter who it was, you know, tell
a marketer she talks. Maybe your dad wasn't talking much, No,

(02:19):
he didn't, and he didn't answer the phone. Yeah, they
were watching TV a lot in their later days. But
you remember William Webster who used to be the FBI
director and CIA director. That's both he and his wife
live in Arizona. Her name is Linda. And apparently a
scammera who had turned out was from Jamaica kept calling

(02:41):
them up. It says here they're they're going public with
their story because they want to really make seniors aware
of these financial fraud schemes. A scammera identified himself as
David and kept calling us and told my husband, this
is the wife Linda speaking, that you have won seventy
two million dollars. It was a scam so and of

(03:04):
course usually what they want for that is you have
to send like a little down payment or something a
big thing, which I never understood. It's like they're calling
to give you money, but you have to send them
a little money first. That's right to make to make
it show that you're really committed, right that you're you know,
you fall for that, you deserve to get fleeced. I know.
My favorite is the street scammer who and this has worked.

(03:27):
They walk up to people and they're holding a little
bull in hat where they say there's winning lottery tickets
in here and I want to split them with you.
Just give me a little money to show that you
know you're trust me, and then they just run off
with the hundred pockets. Why would they want to split
them with you? Exactly right. But they still come in. Well,
the ones that come in now from Nigeria say, we
can't access the money because we're not in the US.

(03:48):
We're not citizen because right, right, But but they need
our help weight in this end. They discovered money for you,
but in Nigeria. But they get they want they want
a US lottery. They can't believe it. But they can't
collect the money because they do not have US connection,
US citizenship. We need your help, tell me. The former
head of the CIA and FBI fell for this. No, no, no, no,

(04:12):
here's what happened. This took a dark turn. They said,
we're not going to give you any money. Stop calling us.
So apparently the next time he called, he told the wife,
this is Linda Webster, William Webster's wife. He said he
would kill me, kill my husband. He was going to
burn our house down, and our white brick house would
look lovely with the brains of our head on the wall.

(04:33):
That's the words he used. Apparently that's rough. Yeah. Then
the couple said that's it, and they notified the FBI.
And I would say, if you're William Webster, the former director,
it probably gets attention. Yeah, your call goes through. That's
why you don't get boys. Not just put in the
file an old person complaining about a scammer. It's mister Webster.
We ought to deal with this. He's got connections. So

(04:57):
they tracked the caller down in Jamaica and he eventually
came to the US. I don't know if they lured
him or not, and they arrested him. According to the
FBI's Elder Fraud Report, last year, they were just over
ninety thousand scams losses of over a billion dollars, and
that number is up big since twenty twenty. And I
think the pandemic had people feel, especially grandpa and grandma

(05:22):
who can't be visited because it's the risk of them
getting sick. The person I know a little older and
a little batty. And that's that's the combination you want.
You're saying, I don't know this person, No, I don't
think so, oh okay, older and batty and and so
that's the perfect target and a very gullible Yeah. I

(05:43):
think you can spot the personalities people, you know who's
gonna And I think I'm not surprised that this you
know what kind of scams it was. Uh, it wasn't
a lottery ticket. It was it lost thousands of dollars. Oh,
it's some sort of fake investment. Yeah, I forget, I
forget exactly what it was. It was a lost thousand dollars.

(06:05):
And another one that they fell for was um a
fake dog that was being shipped from Russia. That she
was she's like that she loves dogs right, and a
soft spot. So it was some kind of offer of
a dog, a blind dog. And the best part they

(06:26):
sent a photograph like like an old fashioned snapshot photography
from a film camera with his German shepherd on a rug.
It looked like it looked like I gotta save this dog.
But from the color it looked like it was from
the nineteen eighties the photo, and there's like shag carpeting
and and they had they had black xes through the

(06:49):
dog's eyes to signify that he was blind. Oh no,
like photoshop or yeah, yeah, exactly the picture. I didn't
know it was somehow imprinted into the photograph too. Black
Egg gave a little cane, a little walking cane, and
a stick or whatever, maybe a up and dark sunglasses.

(07:12):
Oh man, Yeah, I know. And then she was supposed
to meet meet them at a park nearby, and they
were going to bring this this Russian dog. And I'm
listening to this story and I'm thinking, well, how did
they get the dog from Russia? How do you ship
a blind dog from Russia and get somebody to take
it to this exact park for I don't know, three
thousand dollars. I think the price was wow, and she

(07:35):
paid up. I think money was lost on that deal too. Yeah,
I know somebody who's elderly father thought they were investing
in like gold dust or gold nuggets or something like that,
and somebody overseas, and they really got into it, and
they kept asking whole family members for more money and
finding the kids just said enough and cut them off.

(07:56):
He was kind of living alone. They also said, we're
bringing them in, we're moving them closer to us. So
because because their inheritance will be gone soon, everything will
be gone exactly or even the money were supposed to
live off for the rest of his life. Will be
gone if he continues to get scammed that bad. Yeah,
this is how cryptocurrency works too. It's the same idea. Well,
you're wondering, you know, you're wondering if somebody called Joe Biden,

(08:17):
if they could get away with it. Oh yeah, bet
at leasing the treasury. He just writes out a five
billion dollars check from the US Treasury. That's right, it's
the Let's Go Brandon Fund. Would you helpless? Good cause?
I think that's possible that it supports old people riding bicycles?

(08:40):
Can't you help? All right? When we come back. I
don't know about you. I'm in mourning. I have some
tissues here. I've been shedding a tear the end of
the campaign of Mike Fura from they Oh that was
a blow this morning. Well, I think we lost a
big one. I almost imagine what the future could have been.
Imagine with the navor of Los Angeles. Let's spend a
few minutes if Mike Furor was mayor, what would what

(09:02):
life would be like in twenty twenty. We'd all have
that mustache, right, we'd all be walking around with one
of those on our left. Look cool? You talking about
a game changer. Yeah, you know. I don't know about you.
But when the breaking news came down this morning that
we had lost another candidate in the race to be
the next Los Angeles mayor, I was at breakfast. I
almost lost it. I had to be consoled by fellow diners.

(09:25):
It was it was too much. I mean, a guy
that just took out cute ads with a little docs
and little doggie that's not his by the way, No, no,
the dog quit. We're talking about the stiff, boring and
maybe corrupt the city attorney Mike here. It has been
in politics also a long time. There's just so many

(09:46):
people that have been in politics a long time. I'm
kind of tired of talking about them. But they just
keep switching seats. Right now, he's out at city attorney,
so he's not gonna be mayor. What's he gonna do
Probably become a slimy low best that's usually really council
run for state legislature. I just somebody showed me. Maybe

(10:06):
it was Steve Gregory. Uh, some kind of like press
release that Tony Vlair and other sleeves Balls had all
joined a new lobbyist company up in Sacramento. Another one
he used to be with Mercury Public Affair. Yeah, left
he and Fabbi and Nunia's the old Assembly speak. Yeah,
they both left Mercury. They they both are hooked up

(10:28):
again up north. Is it their own company, are you
saying or is it just sad? I don't know. They
they have titles. I don't know who owns the money.
And there's always people looking to pay lobbyists. That's how
you make money when you're at office. They really think
Tony Vlaar can help them move legislation to at least Nunia's.

(10:50):
Was it well, yea Valar wasn't sacraments. Yeah, they were
both here the Assembly. He was, Yeah, that's what he
did before he became mayor. Yeah, that's I think when
he ran. There's cheating on his wife. I think he
was in the Assembly, was yes, because he was cheating
with his uh the wife of some Yeah, like either's
legislative aid or his campaign manager or something like that.
Same things. He mix him up with Newsom right now,

(11:13):
same guy and then Schwartzenegger in the housekeeper. Schwartzenegger went
a little outside the normal lines. Know, I went in
the kitchen. That son apparently is a great guy. His
son is Joe I think Joey. Yeah, Joey Baena really
good looking guy too, and he's becoming just like Schwartzenegger,

(11:35):
a big weightlifter. Huh yeah, yeah. People say he's a
really Well that's nice to hear because maybe the mother
was a really nice lady and probably grew up in
Bakersfield away from the West Side. Nonsense. They pulled him
right out of the spotlight. One was that story guy
out there. But he's showing up in a couple of
profile pieces here and then good, well, all right, Mike
Fura has bowed out of the Los Angeles mayor's race.

(11:58):
He and his one or two percent whatever you want
to believe. The polls are pretty stale, but we're finding
out that they're doing their own internal polling. Now. Fura
claims that right now he's third behind Bass and Carusoe
in his internal polling, but he says not enough to
catch up. Yeah, he's a two and the other guys
of one. One that's Kevin dileone probably. I love how

(12:22):
the incessant cheerleading the incessant spin. Well, I'm third now.
I pulled ahead of the other two guys, probably less
than five percent. Yeah, and I think all the money
he had was spent on those dog ads. I think
that was the end of that. That was his hail Mary.
I think it was around game pretty late in the
walk around the borrowed dog a hired dog? Can we

(12:45):
hire a dog? And I'll walk around for thirty seconds
and maybe that'll send me to the moon by star
rocketing after I walk around the dog. It's not his dog.
If you saw him at the debates till he was
just stiff and unimpressive. Now he's that didn't move the
needle again. The top two vote getters in this June
seventh vote go to the November runoff. But if somebody

(13:08):
gets fifty percent plus one vote, they win outright now
that we're really down to two people, Kevin di Leone,
the Pledge of Allegiance. Guys still hanging in there. But
these two are on the ballot, right, Joe puskayano Quit.
They're on the ballot, and some people will not get
the news that they're out, or they may feel loyal anyway,

(13:28):
so they'll get, you know, they'll get they'll get a
smattering of votes, right, and as the Time puts it,
the Times puts it. Federal investigators are probing the city
attorney's office is handling of a lawsuit ye brought by
a DWP brought by DBP customers, a scandal projected to
cost a DWP more than one hundred million. Two attorneys
associated with Feurer's office, including a former higher ranking city attorney,

(13:51):
have pleaded guilty and the wide ranging reaching scheme. And
you know, it is hard to campaign when you have
a probe dangling out of your rear. End. I think
it's dang enough, as mustad. Yeah, I mean we've talked
about that story and we got the impression they're not
done with their investigation. Yes, And if you're not familiar,

(14:14):
this was a lawsuit brought by customers of DWP for overbuilding.
It was a completely screwed up what was that change
in the building system? A whole new, whole new billing system.
And people are getting fifty thousand dollars bills for their
electricity and water and sometimes they have trouble on doing it.
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, you know, you got you

(14:35):
got that stud You know something, when I become king,
I am going to ban those voice menus when you
call companies. Were right? Oh yeah, some some are going
back to live operators because they know that customers appreciate.
I can't dann them. I really, I start going crazy.
I start screaming it around the house like a lunatic.

(14:57):
I can't stand those menus. Whoever invented those, I hope
they are rotting and burning in hell painfully. You mean,
when you do press a number and then it's still automated,
they want to get your account number in your name,
and that's right. What is the nature of your call?
And a few as words as possible. Your company is
effing up. When I usually call those and I get

(15:20):
the list, the thing I want is not on the list.
You know. Press one for blah blah, plus two for building.
Press no, no, no no, I have a specific question about something.
But I heard you just press zero and you eventually
get an operator. Some of them. Yeah, if you just
keep hitting zero zero, zero, zero zero, you get through. Right.
So what happened here was the city got sued by

(15:41):
some customers. They hired this attorney, an outsider, and he
made a deal with another attorney to represent both the
city and the customers. Right then he benefited from the
big setlement he paid this other lawyer he hired who
took over the customers lawsuit. But it was all insider trading, right,

(16:02):
But there are other DWP officials involved, including the former
head of DWP just played guilty and got sentenced. Recently.
He took a bribe separately, was one big bundle of
But you would think if you're a benefited from all that,
somehow he would have had more money for his campaign.

(16:22):
That wasn't evidence that would that would have been a
red flag. No, you hide that money overseas in the
Gyman Islands. You don't funnel into your campaign because everybody's
gonna go, hey, how does Mike get ten million dollars
for a mayor's campaign? Where did that money come from? He? Uh,
here's but he was the first politician to enter the
race more than two years ago for mayor. Isn't that embarrassing?

(16:42):
You run for two years and you have an office
insteads Right, you've already got a somewhat high profile, right,
but you're the city attorney. Right, You run for two
years like seven hundred days plus and and you're you're
you're one percent, and let me guess you're losing because

(17:03):
Rick Caruso has more money right, Not because you have
a dud personality. It's because Rick Caruso has money. He uh,
look at this. He was looking for a ballot measure
to double the size of the LA City Council. I
didn't know that one was out there from him. Oh
that's horrible. Yeah, imagine thirty of those people. Yeah. New

(17:25):
York and Chicago have much larger legislatures. It doesn't make
any difference how they do. Yeah, yeah, you just get
you get more morons, right, you know you want to
triple the morons? Hey, go ahead, have forty five of
these a holes arguing with each other. So the other
part of this, which was I guess expected, he is
formally endorsing Karen Bass from mayor. So Buscayano throws his

(17:46):
two percent to Rick Caruso. I bet she should his
other day, he thought he knows he has better numbers
than that. He thinks his polling's focus. But and it
is times polling. He may have a point. Well, I mean,
I'm sure Caruso is spending a lot of money in
his own So maybe Joe's alluding to some numbers that
only they see internally. Maybe I don't know. Blanketing the

(18:08):
airwave doesn't always work, but I know it's working for
Rick Caruso because this is a race that not everybody's
going to vote in, not everybody's interested in. But his
ads are everywhere and it's just going to raise his
name recognition. And they're polished ads. They look good, they
look home, and it's on all the stuff that people
are going crazy over, that's right, crime and homelessness. Karen

(18:29):
Basset's campaign is is. I have not seen an ad
for her, have you. I saw one, but it was
it was a happy talk ad, like to quote Gavin Usom.
It did not meet the moment. Oh you know, I
thought it was like disappointing. Yea, yeah, it's just it's
it's like, I think my opinion around vote for me,
you know, my my biased opinion. I think Caruso's content

(18:53):
and his commercials is hitting the spot of where what
people are feeling. She and I saw one ad and
only only once, So she's not spending a lot of
money on this. Uh. They said she's about to unload
a bunch of ads now that people have the ballots.
That's what I read. Well, they've had him a week already, right, yeah,
ten days? Yes, yeah, a lot of people have already voted.

(19:15):
I don't know, you better get the get a programmed already,
or maybe she's confident she'll come in first or second
and it's not worth about this go around. That's actually
it's not a bad strategy because there's only so much
money you're gonna get donated, and why not spend it
in November? Yeah, because he's got a lot of money,
So she's got to be ready for November. Right, she's
getting swamped on the on the money scene no matter what.

(19:36):
So but by the way, I did see though the
police union ad about her and using in the tuition.
I did see that last night for the first time. Yeah,
they caught my attention. Oh yeah, there it is. And
you know something, she can squawk all she wants. Uh,
there's a lot of factual stuff in there. She did
get that free ninety five thousand dollars scholarship to get
a master's degree. She did. She got it from the
woman who was indicted forgiven Mark Ridley Thomas's son a

(19:59):
similar deal. And he did vote for bills it benefited USC.
They were large spending bills. I don't know that you
can make the case that personally lobbied to get usc
all that money, or you can in a thirty second commercial.
You can certainly imply it. That's right. This is all
you have to do. I think John Denver's music has
passed the test of time. When I hear a song,
I like it, I feel good. I thought he was

(20:21):
making a comeback. I first heard that spot, not a
thought that plane went down. He's coming in. Yeah, that
that But it's funny. It's happened so long ago. I
forgot it. Yeah, it was sometime in the nineties, wasn't it.
I don't remember. It seems like forever. Experimental plane that
even had. Yeah, that's that's a phrase. I still remember
that term, and you and I pondered it on the air.
I'm still pondering it. You hear you hear experimental plane

(20:45):
and he flew that. But why would you doing this?
Barn pieces. I don't know. Experiment fails. Hey, you never
know who's listening. Remember last half hour we talked about
people get scammed. Uh huh was based on a story
where the former FBI and CIA director William Webster and
his wife Jamaican scammer. Can't you have to me make threats? Anyway,

(21:09):
they got him arrested. We got an email from so
count Edison's Information Governance Department. Hi, I know you're talking
about scams that I want you to mention utility scams.
Can you put out the reminder first? Utilities will never
demand your credit card information over the phone. Utilities do

(21:29):
not take prepaid visa cards or bitcoined or cash apps
like Zell. Utilities will never or will not remove your meter.
And utilities do not have a disconnection department. Thank you.
That's very into a service that at the that is
true for like all government agencies. I know somebody, I
wonder if it's the same person again, because she had

(21:51):
so many of these come. No, the IRW I want
to know who this is. The IRS called making a
claim and I said, now, the IRS doesn't call alled
you if you You and I joked about that a
few years ago because we kept getting that automated call
from the IRS. That computer voice is the IRS to
tell you that you are gun. What did they say

(22:12):
in legal Yeah, the I r S can can garnish
your wages, can put a lean on your home. So
the I r S doesn't do it. Socalitistan doesn't do it.
DWP rips you off by mail, They send you the
fifty thousand dollars bill and then it takes ten years
to get it back right. But if if rip off

(22:33):
agency like DWP, they'll they'll they'll do it in print. Uh,
we're gonna have Todd Spitcher the Orange County da on
Later in the show, word came out today that the
man who opened fire inside that Laguna Woods church has
been charged I think ten felonies, including of course murder.

(22:53):
He killed a doctor who apparently tried to stop the attack.
In fact, the doctor was key in that he tackled
the shooter, whose name is David Wenway. Chowell and others
jumped on and were able to hog tie the shooters
so he didn't kill any more people. After he opened fire,

(23:13):
he killed one, but he did hurt five others. The
story that the Alsagundo Times churned up about his life
in Las Vegas. If you remember from the detail that
came out after Sunday's attack, this man lived in Las
Vegas but came all the way to Laguna Woods. Must

(23:34):
have found out about this Taiwanese congregation and decided to
go and shoot people. We have found out in this
story that his life was quote unraveling in Las Vegas.
All we knew yesterday is that he had security guard
job in Vegas. Well, his wife left him. She returned

(23:56):
to Taiwan in December to seek treatment for cancer, but
also to leave him because they were in the middle
of a divorce. According to a next door neighbor in
Vegas by the name of Balmore or Lana or Lana,
he and his wife. Chao and his wife owned the
building they lived in. It's apparently described as a shabby

(24:18):
stucco four plex and a cul de sac about a
mile west of shabby awfully judgmental on the part of
the Saint Matthew orm Seth of the time. Yes, a
typical elitist La Times writer. Shabby stucco four plex. All right,
you wouldn't live there, Matthew. Who got the point? As
you like to describe it, communist blockhouses. It turns out

(24:40):
that Chao, who was born in Taiwan, but he actually
thinks of China and Taiwan are one country, doesn't believe
there's a border, So this is coming from the other side.
Many people in Taiwan want to stay independent from China.
He was the reverse, even though he ended up here
and he is a US citizen, So this is what
he about while I was doing in his empty But

(25:03):
do you think his wife going back to Taiwan triggered him? Like, oh,
now it's even she's leaving me and she's going back
to that country. Yeah, I mean the research belongs to China.
The researchers say there are a trigger experiences in people's
lives before they go off and start shooting, and well,
now he's all alone. Apparently, though they screamed and yelled
at each other all the time, according to neighborhood, But
at least she said that Chow was a very nice man.

(25:24):
But there are a lot of people to hear them
screaming through the wall. They would rather have somebody that
they fight with all day than be alone. I would
say most people would feel that way, even though it
sounds weird, No, it's it's true. Being alone is really depressing.
Sometimes people are energized by fighting. Oh yeah, no, they
live for the fight. They live and if things are

(25:46):
too quiet, they start a fight. Yeah, it gets their
adrenaline going, makes them alive. What did they call it
with oj and Nicole? The mutual dance of destruction. Yes,
that's what it is. It's it's Johnny Depp and Amber heard. Yeah,
that's a good example. Though they're not together. The wife
apparently has stage four lung cancer and one of the

(26:07):
neighbors said, you could tell that she was just tired
of him, and he took it pretty hard after she left.
So I don't know when this was. It wasn't that
long ago, so maybe after then he's all alone and
he's reading stuff online like everybody does, and this particular
issue Taiwan versus China, got him worked up. He's reading
about China and Taiwan, and the Buffalo kid is reading

(26:28):
about white supremacy. But they're both, but they're both online,
probably at the same time plotting their shooting spreeze. He
went to that Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian church service and he
sat in the back reading a Chinese language newspaper for
hours before he chained the doors and tried to superglue everything,
and then he opened fire. That's kind of strange. Don't

(26:51):
you think you's just bursting in it is? It's I
guess he gained everybody's not their com fidens, but people
saw him and he looked peaceful reading they know him,
and apparently they think They even asked him and said, oh,
I used to come here. Occasionally people seek refuge in
a church and they just want to spend some time
in the quiet. So he was born in Taiwan, holds

(27:14):
a Taiwanese passport, completed military service in Taiwan, but apparently
strongly believed that Taiwan belongs to China. So right, so
shooting shooting up a half a dozen people in a
Taiwanese church in Orange County is going to settle that issue.
I mean, just follow the thinking of a maniac. You know,

(27:37):
he's got strong feelings, right, But what are you taking
it out of these poor people? It was a bunch
of elderly people at a pastor's luncheon. Well what are
they going to do about it? So, and here's the
last straw. In February, Child was evicted from the apartment
building he had once owned. The neighbors said he helped
Child carry trash out of his unit to the dumpster.
So last time I saw him, it was just a

(27:58):
homeless old man. He told me, I just don't care
about my life anymore. Well, he said the new owners. Okay,
he sold the property to new owners and they set
the monthly rent too high for him to afford. And
then he applied for government assistance, but even the government
wouldn't give him money. He was upset the government wouldn't

(28:18):
provide him housing or an income whoa, oh my god.
They found horrible pictures inside Chao's unit, photos of Chow
with a gun, including one that appeared to have been
taken at a memorial to a mass shooting the Root
ninety one Harvest Musical music festival in Vegas. Remember that
that guy? Yeah right? The image showed him with a

(28:39):
gun and an expression as if he was laughing hysterically. Well,
that would be a tip off, wouldn't it. Yeah, But
the new tenants found the photos and threw them out.
Yeah there, I'm gonna get involved. What if we do
when he comes after us? Right? Yeah, you can kind
of understand that, as terrible as that sounds. But now
he also may have suffered a braining because six years

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ago he was managing another apartment complex and he told
a tenant who was three months behind on rent to
move out. Instead. The tenant beat Chow and fractored skull
broke his arm. Oh, and he was all It left
him with serious anxiety after that. Sixty eight years old
and only has the security guard jobs, and wife leaves
him and he gets evicted from his no money to own. Yeah, yeah,

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these are all triggers, aren't they. Yeah? Right, As I mentioned,
Todd Spitzell, beyond with the case and the charges. In
the five o'clock hour, we'll be talking again about the
Bologna Wetlands over there in the west side of Los
Angeles and Marina del Rey. That is a place where
there's probably dozens and dozens of RVs vans parked along

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the side of the wetlands where there were trails. Kind
of a recreation area, but an environmentally sensitive area. You
know what's in there, John, The snowy plovers are in there. Yes,
we remember we we focked to defend the snowy plovers
when the homeless people were fouling up their nesting area
up in Ventura County. Yes, in the Oxnart area, that's right. Yeah,

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So I'm big on protecting snowy plovers. So the development
here is a bizarre one. There's a lawsuit objecting to
the way that the county wants to collect the trash
that accumulates from the vagrants who are parked there. The
story should be get them out instead. There's a battle

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over how to protect the wetlands from the excessive amount
of trash, and there have been a couple of ideas
floated about, but the one that apparently the supervisors approved
does not meet the approval of a couple of residents.
Our guest Lucy Hahn, actually likes this idea. We will
talk to her. But again, my feeling is, I understand

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you're trying to protect get those people out. They don't
belong there. And of all places environmentally sensitive wetlands, Yeah,
how come back in a state like California, how come back?
It's not a reason to bump the homeless off from there.
Each weird when the cult changes what they worship and

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it turns out they worshiped the homeless more than they
worship the environment, And it's hard, hard to understand, hard
to follow, And it's also hard to look at any
stories right now and not run into Johnny Depp and
Amber heard good Lord, like everywhere I know. But there
is this that plane crash in China at the end

(31:41):
of March where a China Eastern Jet. It was a
Bowing seven thirty seven eight hundred, smashed into a mountain
side and killed one hundred and thirty two people. Well.
According to a new report, it may have been intentional.
Flight data from the plane suggests someone in the cockpit

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push the plane into a near vertical descent while cruising
at a high altitude. When this happened, it's a report
from the Wall Street Journal today. Data from the black
box recovered at the craft site indicated the controls and
the cockpit led the plane into its deadly dive. The
plane did what it was told to do by someone

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in the cockpit, set a source to the Wall Street Journal,
how's that for a twist, because everyone was thinking, it's
another either the people weren't trained properly if to add
a fly one of these, or but this one went
straight down. When they go straight down, that's almost impossible
for a plane to do on its own, would it correct?

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You mean? Or just yeah, yeah, it's a near vertical descent, right,
Otherwise it would just gradually glide downward until it until
it hit the earth. Yeah. But to turn and goes
straight down is just not It's not what the physics
would suggest, So there would be two possibilities. A suicidal

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pilot or somebody got into the cockpit and took over
the controls and forced the crash. If this new information
is true, well there should be recordings of the mayhem
if somebody, somebody, if somebody crashed in. Yeah, you'd hear
some you'd hear the scuffle or somebody trying to shout
for help. That's what the Chinese are saying. No emergency

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alert was pushed, So then they don't buy the cockpit
intrusion theory, which which which has happened? Remember the Malaysian
did they did? They think that? No, that's never been
They still have never found you know, that was twenty fifteen,
I think seven years ago. Wow, I was thinking of
the gym Alasians jet liner that went down. Are you

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thinking of another one? An egypt Air crash? Oh? That
was a pilot that did that, right, right? Yeah, So
that so that this would be similar to the Egypt
Air Ashton relation thing. It's still a big mystery, but right,
it's apt. The lead theory is still that that guy
was suicidal, right, took it off way out into the
into the Indian Ocean. When when planes do things that
make no sense, then it's got to be a crazy

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person at the controls, right if they go straight down
into the ground, or they start taking a bizarre course
all over the Indian Ocean. Now it is the case,
it's just the idea of a suicidal pilot that's doesn't
occur to people. They don't think that that's man likely.
It's not. But there's suicidal people in all walks the wide.
If there's hundreds of thousands of pilots, maybe more, and

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you're going to get an ex percentage. The problem with
this story is it's the Chinese. So are they going
to investigate the pilot, reveal their name, tell us anything
about their background and why they might be said, No,
they'll they'll do the investigation and not tell them. I'm
surprised even this report got out because Chinese controls the investigation.
It's it's odd that the Wall Street Journal got ahold
of a source that can tell them something about the

(34:59):
black box and the possibilities to what happened. All right,
when we come back, A couple of Playa del Rey
residents have filed a lawsuit against Los Angeles County on
the Board of supervisors and the Flood Control District. They've
approved this trash collection project to take care of the
debris that's affecting the Bologna Creek where the Bologna Creek

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meets the Pacific Ocean. We have talked about the Bologna
Creek and the wetlands there where there's extra trash because
there's a lot of people living in RVs and cars
and vans who are parked along the side of the wetlands.
It's kind of where they live and so that's where
they dump. Lucy Hahn is coming on next. We've talked

(35:43):
to her many times. I think it's Friends of the
Jungle is her group. She actually likes this new idea.
We'll explain what it is, but this lawsuit is against it.
It's a they're going to place a floating barge dumpster
there to try to collect the trash.