May 22, 2023 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Can'f I am six forty. You're listening to the John
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like to formally welcome you to the rest home of
old Joe. Welcome to Bidenville.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Everyone, Oh man, women created by go you know the
you know the thing there's a man on the moon,
or you know something, or you know whether those aliens
are here or not. I commuted for thirty six years
as president Vice President of United States.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Appy birthday, Happy birthday to you television on television.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was on the telephone every time I hear hale
of the chief lender. Where the hell is he turned
around them?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Where?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Where's where's the president?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I can't remember it. I was gonna foot him, excuse me.
The foothills of the MLAs with Shiji Pink for Secretary
of Health and Educations? Are I nominated?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Baber Bakaria? What good wife?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Harris is a proud Howard alone.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's Joe Brand and I agree.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I got the one point.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Nine trillion dollars relief so far.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, Cryptocracy, the guys who were the kleptocracy representative Jackie
you here?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Where's Jackie? I think she was here? And now dig
you go tour of Bidenville before your extended stay. Here's
John and Katy. That is quite a collection. It is
exhibit number one, your honor. Well, yeah, but still on
the roll. Apparently he's at the G seven in Japan. Yeah,
(01:42):
he told some US forces stationed there that once again
his son Boat died in Iraq, which was not what happened.
Once again, that is a complete lie.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The quote is, my son was a major in the
US Army. We lost him in a Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No you didn't. No, he died in eric in the
hospital of a brain tumor. That's correct.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He did die in this country, and Biden believes that
he got some he acquired the cancer because of his
time in a Rock and that's why he.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Always associates the two. Either that or it's like some
cheap way of trying to connect to a military audience.
I guess it is, right. Yeah, that's a good game
to play.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh yeah, he's attributed his son's fatal cancer to burn
pits that disposed of military waste during Bo's nearly year
long deployment in a Rock back in eight.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You play the Joe Biden game, senile or dishonest? You decide.
He's always been known.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
As it embellisher long before he got this senile so.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Embellishing your son's death though, embellish is a great word. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We also had this audio clips a nice word for
a liar from the G seven. And apparently Biden was
asked about relationships in the future, relationship with China.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Let's listen to this, not number one.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You're right, we should have an open hotline at the
Bali conference. That's what the president, she and I agreed
we were going to do and meet on. And then
this silly balloon that was carrying two fake cars worth
the spine equipments line over the United States and it
got shot down, and everything changed in terms of talking
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to one another. I think you're going to see that
begin a thaw very short. But in the meantime, what's
happened is I think it's fair to say, for those
of you who have dealt with the Japanese government that
reported from here for a long time, the situation in
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terms of our relations with Japan have never ever ever
in American has to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So he referred to the Chinese spy balloon as a
silly balloon, A silly balloon get NBC News reported that
they didn't find this out for a couple of months,
that the Chinese were probably able to control the balloon,
to steer it to places and to get real time information.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
From the balloon.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So it wasn't that balloon transmit information back to Beijing
in real time. I didn't need to recover the balloon
to get some of the information that they wanted from
flying it over these sensitive sites.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And it was about gathering nuclear information, our nuclear ready readiness.
It was flying over those sites to and and it's
stuff that you can't get from satellite imagery. You're much closer.
You can also pick up radio frequencies. And they wanted
to test out what we're capable of doing and a
nuclear attack.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And so this is his way of taking taking a
knee by calling it silly, to make so the Chinese
don't feel like we're still angry over them flying balloons.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The Chinese president doesn't take his calls. Oh that's true.
They will know, but yeah, it is true. He or
his staff calls and the response is we'll get back
to you. President g isn't in today. Uh, I'm sorry,
just stepped out. Never calls back, has it for months,
(05:16):
so you got, you got Our president has got such
a bad relationship that, uh, she doesn't even doesn't even
pick up the phone. Joe gets the dial tone every time.
Plus they're pretty busy helping the Russians anyway. Well, yeah,
they do that.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Russia's ally now and they want to grab Taiwan, and
they're daring us to defend Taiwan. And of course we
don't really want to, but we've always promised we would. Yeah,
so you know, we're stuck. They they want to be
the dominant nation. That's their long term plan.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They want to be how to protect those computer chips
with Taiwan, right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well that's what Why do you think we're hurt? You know,
we are spending like fifty five billion dollars to help
finance the construction of computer chip factories in America because
Taiwan makes ninety percent of the computer chips. The whole
world shuts down if China grabs Taiwan, or if there's
some sort of terrible war and they'll hold those computer
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chip factories hostage. And that that's a real thing, and
that's why we're spending fifty five billion dollars on a
program which both parties supported because it's it's a real emergency,
and you know, he's he's just, he's just and that
that that stupid balloon. That's stupid balloon that he let
fly over the whole nation and hover over our military
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sites and our nuclear sites. And then after it sucked
up all the information, it vacuumed up all our military
and nuclear information, then he shot it down over the
Atlantic Ocean. Sometimes I think of these I just say
them out loud. It's like, what kind of a nut
is he?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, the way that story evolved that I'm not defending
him here. It was hugely concerning that there was a
spy balloon flying over the country. Right, But then remember
the weekend after they started shooting down everything left and right,
including that hobby club's balloon, and it became a silly
story because they overreacted in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
What was that term they used.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
They changed, you know, the level of which they considered
these things possibly problem.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The radar filters, the filter, that's right, what it happened
for the filters, every every hobby balloon started popping up
on the radar. But right they tracked this thing before
it entered US airspace space. Right, they knew it was.
They knew it when it was way out there, right,
so I remember they it was. It was people on
the ground in Montana who uh made up made a
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public deal of it because they started posting it online
on social media. I mean, the thing is that was
pretty low stakes, right. It was one balloon, it was spycraft.
Look how badly he botched it. What happens when we've
got a real issue, And do you have any confidence
that he's going to respond properly? Look what he did
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in Afghanistan. I have zero confidence in this administration. If
we really have something scary happen with Russia or China,
I have zero confidence. I've already seen how they dealt
with a balloon. I already saw how they botched up
the afghan exit. Right, this is a great job on
inflation too. Oh yeah, yeah, we saw how they botched
up inflation. They just pretended it didn't exit. Don't forget
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the border and the border, yes, there you go, there's
a third international story. Completely botched the border for two years,
and that's why. And when somebody starts doing their partisan
prattle about the Biden accomplishment, Shut up, stuff a socket
it all right, we got more coming up. Town and
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Speaker 3 (09:07):
All right, before we leave Bidenville, one more clip. It's
from the locker Up Lady.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I know, John.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's hard to believe, but Hillary Clinton's still out there apparently,
so she's ready to run. I guess if Biden can't
step up to the plate next year. No, nothing is that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
She was at the Financial Times Weekend Festival in Washington,
d C. Of course, she was kind of in the
news last week because that report that came out about
the Russian hoax and how the Trump campaign paid by
her campaign. Yeah, it was all her campaign's doing. They
put together that one just in time for the twenty
sixteen election, although it wasn't enough to save her.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, that's what's funny is they went through all the
trouble and expense to try to destroy him, and he
won anyway. Trump won anyway. Boy, how galling is that
that Hillary's got to live with that for the rest
of her life.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We have a question that was asked of her about
is Biden's age should that be considered by voters.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's listen to the audio.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Was that heart stopping moment where he almost fell over
coming downstairs a day or two ago? He didn't use
the railings, Jill wasn't there with him. Every time that happens,
your heart is in your mouth because these things could
be consequential. Is that a concern?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well, I mean it's a concern for anyone. And we've
had presidents who've fallen before who were a lot younger,
and people didn't go into you know, heart palpitations. But
his age is an issue and people have every right
to consider it. But you know, he has this great
saying and you know, I think he's right. You know,
he you know, don't judge him by running against the almighty,
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but against the alternative. And I had some funny one
you know of the camp up that uh I think
you know, he's determined to run. He has a good
record that three years ago people would not have predicted
would have gotten done.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What would that be?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
He doesn't get the credit yet that he deserves for
what is happening out in the country in terms of
you know, jobs and growth and planning for the future
with chips and other stuff. So I obviously hope he
stays you know, very you know, focused and able to
uh compete in the election, because I think he I
(11:31):
think he can be re elected. And that's what we
should all hope.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
For, really, what we should all hope for. Who's the
we she's talking about? There, that prissy interviewer. There, My
heart is in my mouth. That's a British guy. What
is what do you mean your heart is in your mouth?
Old guy stumbles down the stairs and it wasn't that
much of a stumble, and Jill wasn't by him. There
was nobody with him. It's really you're you're, you're that
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on edge, you're you're, you're ready to burst into tears.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's the old president is the daddy thing? Oh my god,
grandpa is about to die. Yes, what's gonna happen to
the country. We'd lose the great one? And you notice,
and this is what makes me nuts about these things.
Is that there's no penetrating discussion here, right, she says, Oh,
he's got a good record, better than and the issues
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just that we just went through.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Right. Border is a disaster, Afghanistan was a disaster. The
relationship with China is a disaster. Inflation is a disaster.
That's four disasters just off the top of my head here, right. Oh,
he has a good record. Who would have thought? And
of course he the little little press over there doesn't
say anything, just nods long, yes, good record, yes, good.
My heart is in my mouth. Oh, we're all so
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very nervous. I'm like, shut up Jesus. Right now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We move over to the Supreme Court, and for the
second time in a week, it's a victory for the
California animals. Remember last week the decision over the egg
line hens.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes, yes, every egg laying hen gets a two bedroom apartment.
They do.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
They get more room than the homeless we'll get with
those five hundred thou dollars apartments in LA's building. Yeah,
the Supreme Court upheld California's ballot measure about the egg
laying hens and how much room they have. To stand
up and turn around because it was a real concern
as to whether or not.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
They get an exercise room, they get an aroma therapy room.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Actually it was the pigs. Wasn't the egg laying one. Yeah,
it was the pigs.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
The pigs have to have enough from so I think
the hens already got their room. Yes, that that ballot
measure was about the pigs because there was a big
up roll over how much bacon could cost.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's right. The chickens have their apartments. Now the pigs
have their apartments. Yep. Well, now we move to another.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Foul, the duck god who remembers the year twenty twelve
and the Foiguah ballot measure California band production and sales
of gua within the state back in twenty twelve, but
some of the sellers were still fighting this in the courts.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This was now Foguah is a fatty duck liver, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And the idea they believe that some of them were
force fed to get their livers to enlarge.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Who eats that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You ever had it?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You've had it?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Can disgusting us be served.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Especially when I was in accounting, we used to go
to the cocktail parties, and there was always somebody walking
around with the tray of fog. Wah, you have a
little cracker or something?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Have you had it?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
John?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, Now just ever has come up? Well I can remember.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I mean we've talked about liver thrust in the past,
kind of.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like that, Oh liver worst is horrific. I used to
like liver wors Oh you did, Oh that I did.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
My mother used to slam it on sandwiches with oh god,
it's a big German bronze fighter.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I was never unto those processed sausages that is all
German stuff. Yeah, it is German's level. Well, the Poles
love their sausages too, Yeah they do. Cabasa Cabasa is good.
It's a little tastier, but the German stuff is like,
no wonder those guys are in a bad mood for
so long they so uh.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The challenges to this made its way through the Appeals
Court and the Ninth Circuit, and eventually it reached the
California I'm sorry, the United States Supreme Court, and they're
not going to look at a challenge. They just kind
of turned it aside, which means the previous court's decisions
are upheld, which upholds the law.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So the duck liver is illegal.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The idea that it seems is that California is a
right to protect animals within its border.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, because you have to overfeed the ducks to and
that's well, I don't know, that's cruel. Yes, I see
a lot of overfeed.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They tend to twelve inch tube to force large amounts
of concentrated meal and compressed air into the birds. As
often as three times a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Day was depressed air.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Compressed air right, causing a bird's liver to swell it
ten times its normal size. This is according to Rob
Banta's office. So I don't they blow it up with air?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Probably the compressed air. Make sure that the amounts the
feed gets down there so that liver gets nice.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Oh, I see anybody who wants to eat it?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So they hey, talk to the fancy account here.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's not a long time, but I do remember they'd
walk around with the plates because I asked, what is.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
This flog us?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, he went to these what duck liver? He went
to these fancy it's also goose liver too. It's Manhattan
cocktail parties.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
I'm sure he didn't know what was happening to the
ducks back then, right, hen.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So victories for the hens, victories for the pigs, and
victories for the ducks. Yes, dever, Mark, one by one,
we're taking away the meat, or at least some attempted Oh.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Come on, I mean, seriously, animals deserve they deserve these
rulings they do. It's just it's it's awful the way
they're treated.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Who are you gonna go to a slaughterhouse and let
that will never?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Well, I'd have to wear a blindfold and I'd have
to have somebody guide me, and I would open up
that stucker so fast.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I don't want to. I don't want to see
what's going on. You don't want to say beforehand?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Right, I can't even go I can't even go to
a dog pound without bursting out tears. Can you imagine
going to a slaughterhouse?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No? Are you born?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (17:29):
I love animals.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
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Speaker 3 (17:51):
All right, now, we're going to take a look at
some weird ideas. Uh. One hour ago, we were talking
about the Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams. He
appeared on Face the Nation over the weekend to talk
about so many migrants who have been sent to New
York City and the burden that's having on their ability
to take care of them.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
To house them. Apparently a lot of hotels are being used.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
In other cases they were put at least temporarily in
school gymnasiums because there just wasn't enough hotel space for them.
So he went on there and growled about how the
whole country ought to take migrants. We got to spread
them out. I think he gave it had a number
of the hundreds of thousands of towns and cities we
have in the country that we can take the migrants in.
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Now he's in the news for a completely different reason
and a different subject. He apparently has an idea that
when it comes to rising retail theft in New York City,
we should have diversion programs. Ah would we hear that
before big here too.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, that's part of their religion, isn't it. It's like
a magical incantation. Diversion programs more failure.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Again, that's the belief that nobody should be in jail
or prison. All we have to do is come up
with alternatives to incarceration.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Somebody explained to me what it is. Have you ever
heard the details of a diversion program? What is it
that they do?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I did hear one. Remember the homeless guy that was
hitting women with weapons, I think with bats and sticks,
and that guy he went to like a bunch of
diversion programs, and it's like psyche counseling. You go in
there and you sit down there. It's almost like group
psychology to try to figure out why you're violent. That's
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because you're violent, because you're finding to deal with your
mental violent condition. So they set me down and it's
like trying to figure out why somebody is funny.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's because they're born funny. Why somebody smart because they're
born smart. People are violent because they're born violent. That's true.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Also, some people are violent because they were beaten when
they were children. It's also very common with the pedophiles
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, when I was five years old, one of
the biggest jerk kids in the class ended up being
in trouble his whole life. He was five. I picked
him out. He was sitting next row, over a couple
of seats up. I didn't like him from the first
days song you knew it, I knew it and that Yeah,
(20:26):
his his life has been a constant mess. There was
there was a jackass in my high school and he
ended up a few years ago getting getting arrested for
buying uh crack, I think, yeah, yeah, one of my classmates,
and he was, you know, he's a big bully guy,
big stupid dumps of the guy didn't bother me, but
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he bothered some of my friends. And he was well.
Of course he opened the paper to find out he's
The police arrested him and he's in prison now for
buying crack. Now you sound like my father.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
My father used to play a game with my brother,
Tell me the names of your classmates, and I'll tell you,
based on their name, whether or not their trouble. Yeah,
he had a pretty good record at it. Yeah, well,
my brother would give.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Them a navy goes.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
That guy's that guy's up to no good. My brother goes, Yeah,
he's always in getting in trouble tonight.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I could I could judge him just by their haircuts.
Their haircuts, yeah you can. Well.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
The other funny thing that Mayor Adams proposed, he was
on a Channel five broadcast in New York City and
as I mentioned, here's what else we could do. We
could do de escalation training for retail employees, and we
can put kaosks in the stores to connect the would
be thieves to social services. And I saw this was
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a parody.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yes, this is Eric Adams.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
He went on a TV station New York to lay
out his plan to combat shoplifting, and retail cress is on.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's crazy, that's absolutely ridiculous. They're not gonna go to kiosks.
They don't want they don't want social services, they don't
want to help. They're making a good living, stealing hundreds
of dollars worth us stuff every day. That's a good living.
I don't understand it. Why should they give that up?
If they're if they're not prosecuted, why should they?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Could you imagine that the thief goes into like a
seven eleven, he ask, and he changes his mind because
he sees the kiosk in the corner, and he walks
over to the kiosk and he starts to hitting some
some buttons and letters, and what do you know, he's
connected to services.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He doesn't need to steal. And honestly, how come the
retail clerks have to take de escalation classes for what
all they want to do is bring people up at
the register, swipe the credit cards. That's all they want
to do. Why do they have to be social workers
now engaging in de escalation. Get an armed police officer,
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let him pull out his gun. That'll deescalate things real fast.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
He also wants to establish neighborhood retail watch groups to
share theft information.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You see, it's about putting all the.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Making us all do stuff because because the thieves, they're
suffering into this capitalist system, they need this to live.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
We have to feel sorry for them. No, and people
aren't going to retail. People aren't going to want to
go to de escalation class. They don't want to get involved,
they don't want to get stabbed. You can't de escalate
to crazy people. You can't de escalate criminals who are
making a good living stealing. This is also stupid. I
can't believe we're discussing this.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
We are now in an era where there's this faction
of politicians and activists. I just saw a story the
other day, and we did cover this a month ago,
and I think we even talked about this with the
LA City Council that they want the car companies to
do more to install anti theft devices, and in fact,
some of them are suing the car companies. It's not
about the thieves anymore. It's about just trying to make
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sure the cars are harder to steal.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So it's your fault. Why can't we get rid of
these people? Why can't people vote this crowd out? This
is nuts. We have to do de escalation. We the
car makers have to come up with somebody the.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Same idea that you should not walk around the streets
with your fancy phone or your fancy watch, or in
your fancy car, because you're just making yourself a target.
Yeah again, the emphasis, as you just said, is on
you to prevent crime, not the criminal.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
All right, we got we got to get rid of
these people. Most people don't feel this way. I bet
you ninety five percent of people don't feel this way.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I can't ask anybody to stop people from shoplifting. How
about a kiosk in the store with social services connections? Yeah,
they would stare at you like you were crazy. Social
service connections. What a phone number you get? No, the
kiosk would have you could you could like think of
a kiosk to get like an ATM and you could
type in something and it would tell you where to go.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
To get some. Yeah, okay some buildings in the city.
That is just nuts. Get some. That's not even worth
responding to. That's so stupid.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What he was real about it He said this on
a TV station door an interview.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
There's something wrong, yes, and the interviewer should should should
have should have blasted them. When are you gonna get
one person at one TV station somewhere to say, mayor
you are completely effing nuts. That is fact.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He cited that step that you and I talked about
a few weeks ago. Adam said last year alone, three
hundred and twenty seven repeat offenders were responsible for thirty
percent of the more than twenty two thousand retail thefts
across the.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
All you need is three hundred and twenty seven prison cells,
and crime instantly drops by thirty percent.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, he thinks, well, no, we just need to find
those three and twenties. So you can't connect them to services.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You can't. You can't. You can't know they make a
good living. It's they're just hungry. It's completely rational. No,
they're not hungry. I'm desperate and hungry. I bet you
they're eating really well after they after they sell their stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
They're probably eating better than we are. All right, we
got more coming up. Johnny kenkf I AM sixty Psycho World.
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Speaker 1 (25:58):
To pass one day, right, No, this is going to pass.
Maybe a bad school.
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Speaker 1 (26:13):
All right.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Court appearance today for the man that's accused of killing
the Idaho college students, four of them. This story, of course,
broke last November. He wasn't arrested till just before Christmas.
Brian Coberger is his name. He apparently was a student
at Washington State University studying criminology. The two stories on
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him today, Number one, he did appear in court. We
mentioned last week that a grand jury did indict him
for the murders. The attorney the DA in that part
of Idaho decided to go that route. Rather than go
to a preliminary hearing, he went to a grand jury
and got the indictment. So today was arraignment day in court.
(27:00):
And apparently Colberger answered yes to these simple questions, and
then when it came time to plead to the crimes,
he stood silent. In fact, his attorney told the court
that's what he's doing. He's standing silent. That's not a plea,
it's not so the judge entered the play on his behalf.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So why were not guilty? Why wouldn't he say he's
not guilty?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Because it's his way of giving the finger to all this.
I don't even recognize this kind of thing. Well, you know,
it's bizarre. This is really a person. Yeah, I think
he thinks he's going to beat this. Oh, I'm sure
he does. He didn't want to lie and say he
was not guilty. So the jo the judge, that stupid system.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
He's done.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Now sixty days for them to determine whether or not
they're going to seek the death penalty.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Firing squad have to Firing squad is an option. Oh,
that's right, Idaho does have that as they just passed
that recently, and we might see a trial in October.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Don't know us unlet's see if he delays it then
we won't. But that's the timeline right now.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Is sickon one. He needs to be executed. He is
a complete psychopath. He's like a monster out of a movie.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
The judge apparently mispronounced some of the victims' names, and
family members complained to a court representative. I mean they
did have odd names. The four college students. I mean
Xana Kernadle, I don't even know if that's right. That
was one of the girls killed, Mattymojin, Kaylee Gungcalvis, and
Ethan Chapin. But I'd probably mispronounced all of those names. Now,
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the other Coburger story, which again needs you to understand
exactly why this guy's a stalker and probably a killer. Supposedly,
just months before he murdered allegedly the four University of
Idaho students, he broke into the apartment of a female colleague,
moved items around he was trying to manipulate her. This
(29:06):
is according to NBC's Dateline. He befriended a female at
the Washington State University campus just months before the murders.
And what he did was he broke into her apartment
somehow and moved things around to scare her. She then
asked him to install a video surveillance system. Would say
(29:28):
now believe he could have accessed remotely since he knew
her Wi Fi passed?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Wow, how creepy is this guy? Wow?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yep, this was his way of getting his foot in
the door, so he could probably take a look at
her anytime he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's I don't know. You know, it's such a weirdo.
I'm surprised any woman trusted him to do that. I mean,
he just screamed psycho weirdo, but.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I think he came across as kind of calmon and tell.
Some women just thought, this is a really brainy guy
who can help me in his.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't know that. That's sick. They should they should
just do this firing squad now, Uh, why waste everybody's
time and money? Well, it's true he also hired in process.
I really am fed up with Process. Let's get to
the point.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
NBC Dateline Special. I didn't even know Dateline was still on,
but I guess it is. Uh, Coburger purchased a k
bar knife and sheath before moving to Washington and enrolling
at the university, so that appears to be the weapon
that he used. Of course, drop up the students. There's
no there's zero mystery here.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't think there is either, but is formality because
the process is required by the US Constitution. So everyone
is going to go through the process. But he killed
the four. He's got his own psycho reasons, LANs, his
enjoyment of violence and manipulation.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Do you think if they put the death penalty out
there that he might try for a plea deal rather
than take his chances of being convicted in.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All sized death. I don't know. I never predict insane people.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He's got a co counsel by the name of Eliza Massos.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I saw that. So what woman decides to uh be
a defense attorney for this character? What's her issues?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
She certified to defend death penalty cases, and she also
worked a case that appeared on America's Most Wanted involving
a man who received four consecutive life sentences plus fifty years.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's interesting that he doesn't do not guilty. I wonder,
I wonder if they're going to come up with some
a complex childhood abuse excuse.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So she joins a public defender by the name of
Ann Taylor.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You got two women defending him. Huh yep, that's part
of the legal things. Great, she was a point to
represent Coburger, But if he gets his.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Own attorney, why do they have to continue to pay
I thought you get a public defender because you're she's
the indigent, then you need it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think she's the death penalty specialist. Oh, I see
the one. The other one is just an Idaho public
defender probably can't get you out of a parking ticket
on a good day.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
And the public defender had actually counseled the mother of Xana,
one of the girls killed in an unrelated drug case,
and she suddenly withdrew her services on January fifth because
she knew she was going to get Well, there's only
in coburger case, it states with the death.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Penalty, there's only a few lawyers who are certified to
argue how to handle the case. Yeah. Yeah, it's a
small list, which is why in some states takes forever
to kill them, because the attorneys have too many cases
that they have to deal with. Right, and you have
to get specially tested and certified that you understand the
(32:57):
death penalty law.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
All right, when don't we come back? Well, welcome back
to the show. Bijorn Lomborg. It's been on our show
many times to talk about the ridiculous ideas to battle
climate change. Although he believes in it, he doesn't want
to devastate the world economy. He's a best selling author, academic,
and he is the head of a think tank called
the Copenhagen Consensus, and he has a new book.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Who're going to talk to him about.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
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Speaker 3 (33:28):
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old Joe. Welcome to Bidenville.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Everyone, Oh man, women created by go you know the
you know the thing there's a man on the moon,
or you know something, or you know whether those aliens
are here or not. I commuted for thirty six years
as president Vice President of United States.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Appy birthday, Happy birthday to you television on television.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was on the telephone every time I hear hale
of the chief lender. Where the hell is he turned
around them?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Where?
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Where's where's the president?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
I can't remember it. I was gonna foot him, excuse me.
The foothills of the MLAs with Shiji Pink for Secretary
of Health and Educations? Are I nominated?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
Baber Bakaria? What good wife?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Harris is a proud Howard alone.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
That's Joe Brand and I agree.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
I got the one point.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Nine trillion dollars relief so far.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Yeah, Cryptocracy, the guys who were the kleptocracy representative Jackie
you here?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Where's Jackie? I think she was here? And now dig
you go tour of Bidenville before your extended stay. Here's
John and Katy. That is quite a collection. It is
exhibit number one, your honor. Well, yeah, but still on
the roll. Apparently he's at the G seven in Japan. Yeah,
(01:42):
he told some US forces stationed there that once again
his son Boat died in Iraq, which was not what happened.
Once again, that is a complete lie.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
The quote is, my son was a major in the
US Army. We lost him in a Rock.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
No you didn't. No, he died in eric in the
hospital of a brain tumor. That's correct.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
He did die in this country, and Biden believes that
he got some he acquired the cancer because of his
time in a Rock and that's why he.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Always associates the two. Either that or it's like some
cheap way of trying to connect to a military audience.
I guess it is, right. Yeah, that's a good game
to play.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Oh yeah, he's attributed his son's fatal cancer to burn
pits that disposed of military waste during Bo's nearly year
long deployment in a Rock back in eight.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
You play the Joe Biden game, senile or dishonest? You decide.
He's always been known.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
As it embellisher long before he got this senile so.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Embellishing your son's death though, embellish is a great word. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We also had this audio clips a nice word for
a liar from the G seven. And apparently Biden was
asked about relationships in the future, relationship with China.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Let's listen to this, not number one.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
You're right, we should have an open hotline at the
Bali conference. That's what the president, she and I agreed
we were going to do and meet on. And then
this silly balloon that was carrying two fake cars worth
the spine equipments line over the United States and it
got shot down, and everything changed in terms of talking
(03:30):
to one another. I think you're going to see that
begin a thaw very short. But in the meantime, what's
happened is I think it's fair to say, for those
of you who have dealt with the Japanese government that
reported from here for a long time, the situation in
(03:50):
terms of our relations with Japan have never ever ever
in American has to get stronger.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
So he referred to the Chinese spy balloon as a
silly balloon, A silly balloon get NBC News reported that
they didn't find this out for a couple of months,
that the Chinese were probably able to control the balloon,
to steer it to places and to get real time information.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
From the balloon.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
So it wasn't that balloon transmit information back to Beijing
in real time. I didn't need to recover the balloon
to get some of the information that they wanted from
flying it over these sensitive sites.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
And it was about gathering nuclear information, our nuclear ready readiness.
It was flying over those sites to and and it's
stuff that you can't get from satellite imagery. You're much closer.
You can also pick up radio frequencies. And they wanted
to test out what we're capable of doing and a
nuclear attack.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And so this is his way of taking taking a
knee by calling it silly, to make so the Chinese
don't feel like we're still angry over them flying balloons.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
The Chinese president doesn't take his calls. Oh that's true.
They will know, but yeah, it is true. He or
his staff calls and the response is we'll get back
to you. President g isn't in today. Uh, I'm sorry,
just stepped out. Never calls back, has it for months,
(05:16):
so you got, you got Our president has got such
a bad relationship that, uh, she doesn't even doesn't even
pick up the phone. Joe gets the dial tone every time.
Plus they're pretty busy helping the Russians anyway. Well, yeah,
they do that.
Speaker 5 (05:33):
There.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Russia's ally now and they want to grab Taiwan, and
they're daring us to defend Taiwan. And of course we
don't really want to, but we've always promised we would. Yeah,
so you know, we're stuck. They they want to be
the dominant nation. That's their long term plan.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
They want to be how to protect those computer chips
with Taiwan, right.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Well that's what Why do you think we're hurt? You know,
we are spending like fifty five billion dollars to help
finance the construction of computer chip factories in America because
Taiwan makes ninety percent of the computer chips. The whole
world shuts down if China grabs Taiwan, or if there's
some sort of terrible war and they'll hold those computer
(06:13):
chip factories hostage. And that that's a real thing, and
that's why we're spending fifty five billion dollars on a
program which both parties supported because it's it's a real emergency,
and you know, he's he's just, he's just and that
that that stupid balloon. That's stupid balloon that he let
fly over the whole nation and hover over our military
(06:37):
sites and our nuclear sites. And then after it sucked
up all the information, it vacuumed up all our military
and nuclear information, then he shot it down over the
Atlantic Ocean. Sometimes I think of these I just say
them out loud. It's like, what kind of a nut
is he?
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Well, the way that story evolved that I'm not defending
him here. It was hugely concerning that there was a
spy balloon flying over the country. Right, But then remember
the weekend after they started shooting down everything left and right,
including that hobby club's balloon, and it became a silly
story because they overreacted in the other direction.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
What was that term they used.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
They changed, you know, the level of which they considered
these things possibly problem.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
The radar filters, the filter, that's right, what it happened
for the filters, every every hobby balloon started popping up
on the radar. But right they tracked this thing before
it entered US airspace space. Right, they knew it was.
They knew it when it was way out there, right,
so I remember they it was. It was people on
the ground in Montana who uh made up made a
(07:45):
public deal of it because they started posting it online
on social media. I mean, the thing is that was
pretty low stakes, right. It was one balloon, it was spycraft.
Look how badly he botched it. What happens when we've
got a real issue, And do you have any confidence
that he's going to respond properly? Look what he did
(08:06):
in Afghanistan. I have zero confidence in this administration. If
we really have something scary happen with Russia or China,
I have zero confidence. I've already seen how they dealt
with a balloon. I already saw how they botched up
the afghan exit. Right, this is a great job on
inflation too. Oh yeah, yeah, we saw how they botched
up inflation. They just pretended it didn't exit. Don't forget
(08:28):
the border and the border, yes, there you go, there's
a third international story. Completely botched the border for two years,
and that's why. And when somebody starts doing their partisan
prattle about the Biden accomplishment, Shut up, stuff a socket
it all right, we got more coming up. Town and
Ken KFI AM.
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Speaker 1 (09:00):
From one until four and after four o'clock the ir
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Speaker 3 (09:07):
All right, before we leave Bidenville, one more clip. It's
from the locker Up Lady.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
I know, John.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's hard to believe, but Hillary Clinton's still out there apparently,
so she's ready to run. I guess if Biden can't
step up to the plate next year. No, nothing is that.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
Nothing would surprise me anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
She was at the Financial Times Weekend Festival in Washington,
d C. Of course, she was kind of in the
news last week because that report that came out about
the Russian hoax and how the Trump campaign paid by
her campaign. Yeah, it was all her campaign's doing. They
put together that one just in time for the twenty
sixteen election, although it wasn't enough to save her.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
No, that's what's funny is they went through all the
trouble and expense to try to destroy him, and he
won anyway. Trump won anyway. Boy, how galling is that
that Hillary's got to live with that for the rest
of her life.
Speaker 3 (10:04):
We have a question that was asked of her about
is Biden's age should that be considered by voters.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Let's listen to the audio.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
Was that heart stopping moment where he almost fell over
coming downstairs a day or two ago? He didn't use
the railings, Jill wasn't there with him. Every time that happens,
your heart is in your mouth because these things could
be consequential. Is that a concern?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
Well, I mean it's a concern for anyone. And we've
had presidents who've fallen before who were a lot younger,
and people didn't go into you know, heart palpitations. But
his age is an issue and people have every right
to consider it. But you know, he has this great
saying and you know, I think he's right. You know,
he you know, don't judge him by running against the almighty,
(10:54):
but against the alternative. And I had some funny one
you know of the camp up that uh I think
you know, he's determined to run. He has a good
record that three years ago people would not have predicted
would have gotten done.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
What would that be?
Speaker 6 (11:11):
He doesn't get the credit yet that he deserves for
what is happening out in the country in terms of
you know, jobs and growth and planning for the future
with chips and other stuff. So I obviously hope he
stays you know, very you know, focused and able to
uh compete in the election, because I think he I
(11:31):
think he can be re elected. And that's what we
should all hope.
Speaker 1 (11:35):
For, really, what we should all hope for. Who's the
we she's talking about? There, that prissy interviewer. There, My
heart is in my mouth. That's a British guy. What
is what do you mean your heart is in your mouth?
Old guy stumbles down the stairs and it wasn't that
much of a stumble, and Jill wasn't by him. There
was nobody with him. It's really you're you're, you're that
(11:57):
on edge, you're you're, you're ready to burst into tears.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It's the old president is the daddy thing? Oh my god,
grandpa is about to die. Yes, what's gonna happen to
the country. We'd lose the great one? And you notice,
and this is what makes me nuts about these things.
Is that there's no penetrating discussion here, right, she says, Oh,
he's got a good record, better than and the issues
(12:21):
just that we just went through.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Right. Border is a disaster, Afghanistan was a disaster. The
relationship with China is a disaster. Inflation is a disaster.
That's four disasters just off the top of my head here, right. Oh,
he has a good record. Who would have thought? And
of course he the little little press over there doesn't
say anything, just nods long, yes, good record, yes, good.
My heart is in my mouth. Oh, we're all so
(12:44):
very nervous. I'm like, shut up Jesus. Right now.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
We move over to the Supreme Court, and for the
second time in a week, it's a victory for the
California animals. Remember last week the decision over the egg
line hens.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Yes, yes, every egg laying hen gets a two bedroom apartment.
They do.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
They get more room than the homeless we'll get with
those five hundred thou dollars apartments in LA's building. Yeah,
the Supreme Court upheld California's ballot measure about the egg
laying hens and how much room they have. To stand
up and turn around because it was a real concern
as to whether or not.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
They get an exercise room, they get an aroma therapy room.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Actually it was the pigs. Wasn't the egg laying one. Yeah,
it was the pigs.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
The pigs have to have enough from so I think
the hens already got their room. Yes, that that ballot
measure was about the pigs because there was a big
up roll over how much bacon could cost.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's right. The chickens have their apartments. Now the pigs
have their apartments. Yep. Well, now we move to another.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Foul, the duck god who remembers the year twenty twelve
and the Foiguah ballot measure California band production and sales
of gua within the state back in twenty twelve, but
some of the sellers were still fighting this in the courts.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
This was now Foguah is a fatty duck liver, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
And the idea they believe that some of them were
force fed to get their livers to enlarge.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Who eats that.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
You ever had it?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
You've had it?
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Can disgusting us be served.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Especially when I was in accounting, we used to go
to the cocktail parties, and there was always somebody walking
around with the tray of fog. Wah, you have a
little cracker or something?
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Have you had it?
Speaker 2 (14:34):
John?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
No, Now just ever has come up? Well I can remember.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
I mean we've talked about liver thrust in the past,
kind of.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like that, Oh liver worst is horrific. I used to
like liver wors Oh you did, Oh that I did.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
My mother used to slam it on sandwiches with oh god,
it's a big German bronze fighter.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
I was never unto those processed sausages that is all
German stuff. Yeah, it is German's level. Well, the Poles
love their sausages too, Yeah they do. Cabasa Cabasa is good.
It's a little tastier, but the German stuff is like,
no wonder those guys are in a bad mood for
so long they so uh.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
The challenges to this made its way through the Appeals
Court and the Ninth Circuit, and eventually it reached the
California I'm sorry, the United States Supreme Court, and they're
not going to look at a challenge. They just kind
of turned it aside, which means the previous court's decisions
are upheld, which upholds the law.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
So the duck liver is illegal.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
The idea that it seems is that California is a
right to protect animals within its border.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Well, because you have to overfeed the ducks to and
that's well, I don't know, that's cruel. Yes, I see
a lot of overfeed.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
They tend to twelve inch tube to force large amounts
of concentrated meal and compressed air into the birds. As
often as three times a.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Day was depressed air.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Compressed air right, causing a bird's liver to swell it
ten times its normal size. This is according to Rob
Banta's office. So I don't they blow it up with air?
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Probably the compressed air. Make sure that the amounts the
feed gets down there so that liver gets nice.
Speaker 7 (16:19):
Oh, I see anybody who wants to eat it?
Speaker 1 (16:22):
So they hey, talk to the fancy account here.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
It's not a long time, but I do remember they'd
walk around with the plates because I asked, what is.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
This flog us?
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Yes, he went to these what duck liver? He went
to these fancy it's also goose liver too. It's Manhattan
cocktail parties.
Speaker 7 (16:39):
I'm sure he didn't know what was happening to the
ducks back then, right, hen.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
So victories for the hens, victories for the pigs, and
victories for the ducks. Yes, dever, Mark, one by one,
we're taking away the meat, or at least some attempted Oh.
Speaker 7 (16:52):
Come on, I mean, seriously, animals deserve they deserve these
rulings they do. It's just it's it's awful the way
they're treated.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
Who are you gonna go to a slaughterhouse and let
that will never?
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Oh?
Speaker 7 (17:04):
Well, I'd have to wear a blindfold and I'd have
to have somebody guide me, and I would open up
that stucker so fast.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
And I don't want to. I don't want to see
what's going on. You don't want to say beforehand?
Speaker 7 (17:15):
Right, I can't even go I can't even go to
a dog pound without bursting out tears. Can you imagine
going to a slaughterhouse?
Speaker 1 (17:25):
No? Are you born?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yes?
Speaker 7 (17:29):
I love animals.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
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Speaker 3 (17:51):
All right, now, we're going to take a look at
some weird ideas. Uh. One hour ago, we were talking
about the Mayor of New York City, Eric Adams. He
appeared on Face the Nation over the weekend to talk
about so many migrants who have been sent to New
York City and the burden that's having on their ability
to take care of them.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
To house them. Apparently a lot of hotels are being used.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
In other cases they were put at least temporarily in
school gymnasiums because there just wasn't enough hotel space for them.
So he went on there and growled about how the
whole country ought to take migrants. We got to spread
them out. I think he gave it had a number
of the hundreds of thousands of towns and cities we
have in the country that we can take the migrants in.
(18:35):
Now he's in the news for a completely different reason
and a different subject. He apparently has an idea that
when it comes to rising retail theft in New York City,
we should have diversion programs. Ah would we hear that
before big here too.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Well, that's part of their religion, isn't it. It's like
a magical incantation. Diversion programs more failure.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
Again, that's the belief that nobody should be in jail
or prison. All we have to do is come up
with alternatives to incarceration.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
Somebody explained to me what it is. Have you ever
heard the details of a diversion program? What is it
that they do?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
I did hear one. Remember the homeless guy that was
hitting women with weapons, I think with bats and sticks,
and that guy he went to like a bunch of
diversion programs, and it's like psyche counseling. You go in
there and you sit down there. It's almost like group
psychology to try to figure out why you're violent. That's
(19:40):
because you're violent, because you're finding to deal with your
mental violent condition. So they set me down and it's
like trying to figure out why somebody is funny.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It's because they're born funny. Why somebody smart because they're
born smart. People are violent because they're born violent. That's true.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
Also, some people are violent because they were beaten when
they were children. It's also very common with the pedophiles
and stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You know, when I was five years old, one of
the biggest jerk kids in the class ended up being
in trouble his whole life. He was five. I picked
him out. He was sitting next row, over a couple
of seats up. I didn't like him from the first
days song you knew it, I knew it and that Yeah,
(20:26):
his his life has been a constant mess. There was
there was a jackass in my high school and he
ended up a few years ago getting getting arrested for
buying uh crack, I think, yeah, yeah, one of my classmates,
and he was, you know, he's a big bully guy,
big stupid dumps of the guy didn't bother me, but
(20:47):
he bothered some of my friends. And he was well.
Of course he opened the paper to find out he's
The police arrested him and he's in prison now for
buying crack. Now you sound like my father.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
My father used to play a game with my brother,
Tell me the names of your classmates, and I'll tell you,
based on their name, whether or not their trouble. Yeah,
he had a pretty good record at it. Yeah, well,
my brother would give.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Them a navy goes.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
That guy's that guy's up to no good. My brother goes, Yeah,
he's always in getting in trouble tonight.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I could I could judge him just by their haircuts.
Their haircuts, yeah you can. Well.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
The other funny thing that Mayor Adams proposed, he was
on a Channel five broadcast in New York City and
as I mentioned, here's what else we could do. We
could do de escalation training for retail employees, and we
can put kaosks in the stores to connect the would
be thieves to social services. And I saw this was
(21:42):
a parody.
Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yes, this is Eric Adams.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
He went on a TV station New York to lay
out his plan to combat shoplifting, and retail cress is on.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
That's crazy, that's absolutely ridiculous. They're not gonna go to kiosks.
They don't want they don't want social services, they don't
want to help. They're making a good living, stealing hundreds
of dollars worth us stuff every day. That's a good living.
I don't understand it. Why should they give that up?
If they're if they're not prosecuted, why should they?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Could you imagine that the thief goes into like a
seven eleven, he ask, and he changes his mind because
he sees the kiosk in the corner, and he walks
over to the kiosk and he starts to hitting some
some buttons and letters, and what do you know, he's
connected to services.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
He doesn't need to steal. And honestly, how come the
retail clerks have to take de escalation classes for what
all they want to do is bring people up at
the register, swipe the credit cards. That's all they want
to do. Why do they have to be social workers
now engaging in de escalation. Get an armed police officer,
(22:49):
let him pull out his gun. That'll deescalate things real fast.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
He also wants to establish neighborhood retail watch groups to
share theft information.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
You see, it's about putting all the.
Speaker 3 (23:01):
Making us all do stuff because because the thieves, they're
suffering into this capitalist system, they need this to live.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
We have to feel sorry for them. No, and people
aren't going to retail. People aren't going to want to
go to de escalation class. They don't want to get involved,
they don't want to get stabbed. You can't de escalate
to crazy people. You can't de escalate criminals who are
making a good living stealing. This is also stupid. I
can't believe we're discussing this.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
We are now in an era where there's this faction
of politicians and activists. I just saw a story the
other day, and we did cover this a month ago,
and I think we even talked about this with the
LA City Council that they want the car companies to
do more to install anti theft devices, and in fact,
some of them are suing the car companies. It's not
about the thieves anymore. It's about just trying to make
(23:51):
sure the cars are harder to steal.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
So it's your fault. Why can't we get rid of
these people? Why can't people vote this crowd out? This
is nuts. We have to do de escalation. We the
car makers have to come up with somebody the.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Same idea that you should not walk around the streets
with your fancy phone or your fancy watch, or in
your fancy car, because you're just making yourself a target.
Yeah again, the emphasis, as you just said, is on
you to prevent crime, not the criminal.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
All right, we got we got to get rid of
these people. Most people don't feel this way. I bet
you ninety five percent of people don't feel this way.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
I can't ask anybody to stop people from shoplifting. How
about a kiosk in the store with social services connections? Yeah,
they would stare at you like you were crazy. Social
service connections. What a phone number you get? No, the
kiosk would have you could you could like think of
a kiosk to get like an ATM and you could
type in something and it would tell you where to go.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
To get some. Yeah, okay some buildings in the city.
That is just nuts. Get some. That's not even worth
responding to. That's so stupid.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
What he was real about it He said this on
a TV station door an interview.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
There's something wrong, yes, and the interviewer should should should
have should have blasted them. When are you gonna get
one person at one TV station somewhere to say, mayor
you are completely effing nuts. That is fact.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
He cited that step that you and I talked about
a few weeks ago. Adam said last year alone, three
hundred and twenty seven repeat offenders were responsible for thirty
percent of the more than twenty two thousand retail thefts
across the.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
All you need is three hundred and twenty seven prison cells,
and crime instantly drops by thirty percent.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, he thinks, well, no, we just need to find
those three and twenties. So you can't connect them to services.
Speaker 1 (25:37):
You can't. You can't. You can't know they make a
good living. It's they're just hungry. It's completely rational. No,
they're not hungry. I'm desperate and hungry. I bet you
they're eating really well after they after they sell their stuff.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
They're probably eating better than we are. All right, we
got more coming up. Johnny kenkf I AM sixty Psycho World.
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Speaker 1 (25:58):
To pass one day, right, No, this is going to pass.
Maybe a bad school.
Speaker 4 (26:05):
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Speaker 1 (26:13):
All right.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Court appearance today for the man that's accused of killing
the Idaho college students, four of them. This story, of course,
broke last November. He wasn't arrested till just before Christmas.
Brian Coberger is his name. He apparently was a student
at Washington State University studying criminology. The two stories on
(26:36):
him today, Number one, he did appear in court. We
mentioned last week that a grand jury did indict him
for the murders. The attorney the DA in that part
of Idaho decided to go that route. Rather than go
to a preliminary hearing, he went to a grand jury
and got the indictment. So today was arraignment day in court.
(27:00):
And apparently Colberger answered yes to these simple questions, and
then when it came time to plead to the crimes,
he stood silent. In fact, his attorney told the court
that's what he's doing. He's standing silent. That's not a plea,
it's not so the judge entered the play on his behalf.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
So why were not guilty? Why wouldn't he say he's
not guilty?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Because it's his way of giving the finger to all this.
I don't even recognize this kind of thing. Well, you know,
it's bizarre. This is really a person. Yeah, I think
he thinks he's going to beat this. Oh, I'm sure
he does. He didn't want to lie and say he
was not guilty. So the jo the judge, that stupid system.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
He's done.
Speaker 3 (27:49):
Now sixty days for them to determine whether or not
they're going to seek the death penalty.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Firing squad have to Firing squad is an option. Oh,
that's right, Idaho does have that as they just passed
that recently, and we might see a trial in October.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Don't know us unlet's see if he delays it then
we won't. But that's the timeline right now.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Is sickon one. He needs to be executed. He is
a complete psychopath. He's like a monster out of a movie.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
The judge apparently mispronounced some of the victims' names, and
family members complained to a court representative. I mean they
did have odd names. The four college students. I mean
Xana Kernadle, I don't even know if that's right. That
was one of the girls killed, Mattymojin, Kaylee Gungcalvis, and
Ethan Chapin. But I'd probably mispronounced all of those names. Now,
(28:43):
the other Coburger story, which again needs you to understand
exactly why this guy's a stalker and probably a killer. Supposedly,
just months before he murdered allegedly the four University of
Idaho students, he broke into the apartment of a female colleague,
moved items around he was trying to manipulate her. This
(29:06):
is according to NBC's Dateline. He befriended a female at
the Washington State University campus just months before the murders.
And what he did was he broke into her apartment
somehow and moved things around to scare her. She then
asked him to install a video surveillance system. Would say
(29:28):
now believe he could have accessed remotely since he knew
her Wi Fi passed?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Wow, how creepy is this guy? Wow?
Speaker 3 (29:36):
Yep, this was his way of getting his foot in
the door, so he could probably take a look at
her anytime he wanted to.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
That's I don't know. You know, it's such a weirdo.
I'm surprised any woman trusted him to do that. I mean,
he just screamed psycho weirdo, but.
Speaker 3 (29:57):
I think he came across as kind of calmon and tell.
Some women just thought, this is a really brainy guy
who can help me in his.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I don't know that. That's sick. They should they should
just do this firing squad now, Uh, why waste everybody's
time and money? Well, it's true he also hired in process.
I really am fed up with Process. Let's get to
the point.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
NBC Dateline Special. I didn't even know Dateline was still on,
but I guess it is. Uh, Coburger purchased a k
bar knife and sheath before moving to Washington and enrolling
at the university, so that appears to be the weapon
that he used. Of course, drop up the students. There's
no there's zero mystery here.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
I don't think there is either, but is formality because
the process is required by the US Constitution. So everyone
is going to go through the process. But he killed
the four. He's got his own psycho reasons, LANs, his
enjoyment of violence and manipulation.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Do you think if they put the death penalty out
there that he might try for a plea deal rather
than take his chances of being convicted in.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
All sized death. I don't know. I never predict insane people.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
He's got a co counsel by the name of Eliza Massos.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I saw that. So what woman decides to uh be
a defense attorney for this character? What's her issues?
Speaker 3 (31:29):
She certified to defend death penalty cases, and she also
worked a case that appeared on America's Most Wanted involving
a man who received four consecutive life sentences plus fifty years.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
It's interesting that he doesn't do not guilty. I wonder,
I wonder if they're going to come up with some
a complex childhood abuse excuse.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
So she joins a public defender by the name of
Ann Taylor.
Speaker 1 (31:55):
You got two women defending him. Huh yep, that's part
of the legal things. Great, she was a point to
represent Coburger, But if he gets his.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
Own attorney, why do they have to continue to pay
I thought you get a public defender because you're she's
the indigent, then you need it.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I think she's the death penalty specialist. Oh, I see
the one. The other one is just an Idaho public
defender probably can't get you out of a parking ticket
on a good day.
Speaker 3 (32:19):
And the public defender had actually counseled the mother of Xana,
one of the girls killed in an unrelated drug case,
and she suddenly withdrew her services on January fifth because
she knew she was going to get Well, there's only
in coburger case, it states with the death.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
Penalty, there's only a few lawyers who are certified to
argue how to handle the case. Yeah. Yeah, it's a
small list, which is why in some states takes forever
to kill them, because the attorneys have too many cases
that they have to deal with. Right, and you have
to get specially tested and certified that you understand the
(32:57):
death penalty law.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
All right, when don't we come back? Well, welcome back
to the show. Bijorn Lomborg. It's been on our show
many times to talk about the ridiculous ideas to battle
climate change. Although he believes in it, he doesn't want
to devastate the world economy. He's a best selling author, academic,
and he is the head of a think tank called
the Copenhagen Consensus, and he has a new book.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Who're going to talk to him about.
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